Latest / I Am All In with Scott Patterson / You’ve Been Gilmored: Abrigail Williams
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- 0:00Speaker 1: I Am all in. I guess you.
- 0:16Speaker 2: I Am all In with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast.
- 0:21Speaker 1: Abigail Williams. Welcome to the one on one interview. I
- 0:24Speaker 1: am Scott Patterson. This is the I Am All In
- 0:26Speaker 1: podcast iHeartRadio one to eleven Productions. Abigail Williams is twenty
- 0:32Speaker 1: two years old and she just watched Gilmore Girls for
- 0:35Speaker 1: the first time, and she wrote an article for Vogue
- 0:40Speaker 1: and tell us a little bit about who you are,
- 0:43Speaker 1: where you're from. Why you wrote the article. You're experiencing
- 0:48Speaker 1: seeing Gilmore Girls for the first time.
- 0:51Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks so much for having me. Like you said,
- 0:54Speaker 2: my name is Abigail Williams. I work for Vogue magazine,
- 0:57Speaker 2: just fresh off and internship last summer. Employed and I
- 1:01Speaker 2: just thought what would be a more fun way to
- 1:04Speaker 2: ring in the new season, especially fall? With watching the
- 1:08Speaker 2: Gilmore Girls for the first time. It was just trending
- 1:10Speaker 2: on TikTok, and I thought, I've never seen this. I'm
- 1:12Speaker 2: going to pitch it to an editor and see if
- 1:15Speaker 2: this is something they'd go for. And it was and
- 1:18Speaker 2: I'm excited.
- 1:19Speaker 1: How was it? What do you mean? It was trending
- 1:21Speaker 1: on TikTok Gilmore Girls Fall watching rewatching.
- 1:26Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's experiencing some sort of gen Z revival,
- 1:29Speaker 2: just because I don't know if a lot of people
- 1:31Speaker 2: in my generation have seen it, but it's like the
- 1:33Speaker 2: quint essentially Fall cozy girl show. Everybody are making edits
- 1:38Speaker 2: about it. I don't know if you know, Like they'll
- 1:40Speaker 2: cut audios from the show and then put it against
- 1:43Speaker 2: these like aesthetic all cuts the videos, and I was like,
- 1:46Speaker 2: this seems cool. I don't know what this is.
- 1:49Speaker 1: I've seen plenty of these, and I do conventions and
- 1:52Speaker 1: people young yea seven year old girls and boys come
- 1:55Speaker 1: up to me a dressed as a character, you know,
- 1:58Speaker 1: they want to meet me and they want to talk
- 2:00Speaker 1: about the show. And the whole thing is so everybody's
- 2:02Speaker 1: discovering this. Yeah, it's It's amazing. Netflix has made it
- 2:07Speaker 1: in a continuous, continuous cycle for years now. So what
- 2:13Speaker 1: had you were you aware the show before you watched it?
- 2:16Speaker 1: What had you heard about it? So you just simply
- 2:18Speaker 1: discovered it off of TikTok. Nobody was talking about it, right, No, people.
- 2:23Speaker 2: Were posting videos about on Instagram and TikTok, And that's
- 2:26Speaker 2: how I discovered it and I've only seen like the
- 2:30Speaker 2: famous burken bag scene where Rory doesn't know where a
- 2:33Speaker 2: Bergen is, But that was all I knew about the show.
- 2:36Speaker 1: Gotcha, So let me get a feel for who you
- 2:39Speaker 1: love and who you don't love. And before we start
- 2:41Speaker 1: getting into your article, who's your favorite character?
- 2:44Speaker 2: Uh? It's controversial among I feel like my age, but
- 2:49Speaker 2: I have my favorite Laura. I love her why She's
- 2:54Speaker 2: just well, I saw the marvelous missus Masel first, and
- 2:57Speaker 2: so when I first started watching the show, I immediately
- 3:00Speaker 2: picked up on like Midge's dry, like really quick witted humor,
- 3:04Speaker 2: and I talked about it in my article, like I
- 3:06Speaker 2: realized it was the same creator. But Laura, l I
- 3:09Speaker 2: just gave me that Midge feeling, and she showed headstrong
- 3:12Speaker 2: the whole like mother Daughar issue and her I mean
- 3:16Speaker 2: Luke kind of just like stayed with her for eight
- 3:18Speaker 2: to nine years before they got together, and it was
- 3:20Speaker 2: just so, I don't know, I like messy characters who
- 3:23Speaker 2: I can kind of relate to.
- 3:24Speaker 3: I love it.
- 3:26Speaker 1: So which character annoyed you the most, annoyed me the most,
- 3:32Speaker 1: I feel like.
- 3:35Speaker 3: In a good way, or just my least favorite character?
- 3:39Speaker 1: I would think annoyed qualifies as.
- 3:41Speaker 3: That, yeah, least favorite character.
- 3:46Speaker 2: I would have to say, I'm not sure, because Paris
- 3:53Speaker 2: annoyed me a lot through the series, but then I
- 3:54Speaker 2: ended up really loving her. But she was annoying for
- 3:56Speaker 2: like all of children high school, like so annoying.
- 4:01Speaker 3: I was like Rory just like.
- 4:02Speaker 2: Move and it just transferred to a different class, like
- 4:05Speaker 2: she's always hear you.
- 4:07Speaker 1: But yeah, but she she does tend to grow on it,
- 4:09Speaker 1: doesn't she She does.
- 4:10Speaker 2: Which is why I'm like she was my least favorite,
- 4:12Speaker 2: but she might be one of my favorites now.
- 4:15Speaker 1: So what was your favorite Gilmore Girl's era or season?
- 4:21Speaker 2: I would say the Jess and Rory era, just when
- 4:25Speaker 2: even though it's kind of like I was the big
- 4:27Speaker 2: supporter of Dean and I didn't really like how Rory
- 4:31Speaker 2: just kind of left Dean to his own devices and
- 4:34Speaker 2: just was like, oh, bye, I'm going to hang out
- 4:36Speaker 2: with Jess now. But I will say that I feel
- 4:39Speaker 2: like Jess really understood her, and I feel like they
- 4:42Speaker 2: had a lot more in common, and the whole arc
- 4:44Speaker 2: with like it was like a father son arc with
- 4:46Speaker 2: Luke and Jess. I just really appreciate it. He was
- 4:49Speaker 2: just kind of a loner but also misunderstood, and I
- 4:52Speaker 2: just like the era.
- 4:53Speaker 1: Yeah, I think of all of them, I think Jess
- 4:56Speaker 1: definitely really got her and they were very similar in
- 5:00Speaker 1: a way. They both had a kind of a similar
- 5:02Speaker 1: darkness and a similar chip kissing. Yeah, but they understood
- 5:06Speaker 1: each other and they were I think I think he
- 5:08Speaker 1: was as smart as she was, just completely troubled person. Yeah, yeah,
- 5:14Speaker 1: not that saying she wasn't. I mean, she has her
- 5:16Speaker 1: own issues, but not like him. So what's your favorite
- 5:20Speaker 1: thing about the show? What do you like about the
- 5:21Speaker 1: show so much?
- 5:23Speaker 2: I just love how, like a lot of people say online,
- 5:27Speaker 2: it's the quintessential fall show. But I also think it's
- 5:30Speaker 2: a form of escape escapism in the sense that, like,
- 5:33Speaker 2: I don't live in a small town, but I really
- 5:35Speaker 2: love the vibe that Stars Hollow gives. And I think
- 5:38Speaker 2: that's what makes it relatable for or just interesting for
- 5:42Speaker 2: a lot of people, is that it's it's cozy. It's
- 5:44Speaker 2: something that you want to turn on with, like I
- 5:45Speaker 2: don't know, that's a cup of hot chocolate, Like you
- 5:48Speaker 2: just get sucked into this really cute New England town.
- 5:54Speaker 2: And it's not like other shows where there's a lot
- 5:57Speaker 2: of drama that's happening, but it's sort of emotional in
- 5:59Speaker 2: a way that you have to take a break from it.
- 6:01Speaker 3: It's really uplifting and I feel like, you know, I'm
- 6:04Speaker 3: having a bad.
- 6:05Speaker 1: Day, it's like it. And so are you in New
- 6:07Speaker 1: York or la?
- 6:09Speaker 3: I'm in New York City?
- 6:10Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 6:10Speaker 1: Okay, and you grew up there?
- 6:12Speaker 2: Yeah, I grew up going to school in New York City.
- 6:14Speaker 2: But I was born in Jersey.
- 6:16Speaker 1: So, yeah, you from Jersey, I'm from Jersey?
- 6:19Speaker 3: What part I was born in Jersey City?
- 6:22Speaker 1: No way?
- 6:24Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 6:24Speaker 1: Wow?
- 6:25Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 6:26Speaker 1: I was born in Philly, raised in Jersey, went to
- 6:28Speaker 1: rud Curse, you know, Jersey, whole Jersey story. What do
- 6:33Speaker 1: you dis like about the show anything?
- 6:36Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 6:36Speaker 2: One really big thing that I feel like I've heard
- 6:39Speaker 2: online all over is just Rory dropping out of Yale.
- 6:43Speaker 2: Maybe absolutely no sense to me until I started reflecting
- 6:48Speaker 2: on it, but just it was she's even though she's
- 6:53Speaker 2: so spoken and she's like the angel of the town
- 6:55Speaker 2: and everybody loves her, I feel like she still has
- 6:57Speaker 2: grit to her. And you saw that when Harris was
- 7:00Speaker 2: like beating on her and she kind of gave her
- 7:02Speaker 2: pushback and just a lot of things up until that moment.
- 7:06Speaker 2: You saw Rory kind of push back on people who
- 7:08Speaker 2: didn't believe in her, and then all of a sudden,
- 7:11Speaker 2: Mitcham I think his name is Huntsberger is like, you
- 7:14Speaker 2: just don't have it, and she just folds, and I was.
- 7:17Speaker 3: So I was so pissed.
- 7:20Speaker 2: I was like, Rory, what are you doing? And I
- 7:21Speaker 2: felt like Laura Lai, I was like, like, what are
- 7:23Speaker 2: you doing? I feel like, you know, she has a
- 7:26Speaker 2: right to her own autonomy and she can figure out
- 7:29Speaker 2: what she needs to figure out. But at the same time,
- 7:33Speaker 2: you know you're rooting for this girl and you want
- 7:35Speaker 2: to see her win. And I was just like, Rory,
- 7:37Speaker 2: what are you doing?
- 7:38Speaker 1: Like but in a real sense, in real world terms,
- 7:45Speaker 1: she was overprotected. She was living in this tiny little
- 7:48Speaker 1: town and this is probably the first time somebody said
- 7:53Speaker 1: no to her.
- 7:54Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly, which is why in my article I
- 7:57Speaker 2: started reflecting on it after I'd been talked the entire show.
- 8:01Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, this makes sense because she's had
- 8:04Speaker 2: this amazing support system and it's not her fault that
- 8:07Speaker 2: she lives like this is how she grew up, but
- 8:10Speaker 2: she she didn't have that sort of outside perspective of
- 8:14Speaker 2: somebody telling her you absolutely can't do this and there's
- 8:16Speaker 2: no way that you're going to make it. She always
- 8:18Speaker 2: had a really good support system, so it was kind
- 8:21Speaker 2: of like she was in this bubble and sort of coddled.
- 8:25Speaker 2: But also, I mean she had to she had to
- 8:28Speaker 2: go through it in her own way, which.
- 8:29Speaker 1: Is I think, what have you know? A more accurate
- 8:33Speaker 1: statement coming out of Mitcham would have been you, I
- 8:37Speaker 1: don't think you can handle this environment in my publications.
- 8:43Speaker 1: But you know, to paint her with such a broad brush,
- 8:45Speaker 1: I thought was, Yeah, that's a tough hit to take
- 8:48Speaker 1: for him.
- 8:48Speaker 3: I mean, it's low.
- 8:49Speaker 2: It's also coming from an adult who's worked in the
- 8:52Speaker 2: industry for so long, and just to cut this person.
- 8:55Speaker 1: I mean he's like he's a he's a known fit.
- 8:57Speaker 1: I mean, he's a powerful very you know, he's one
- 8:59Speaker 1: of the most powerful guys in old media. Yeah, what
- 9:02Speaker 1: a crushing blow. I always defend her on that, but
- 9:04Speaker 1: I think it's the first time she's really gotten whacked,
- 9:07Speaker 1: you know. And yeah, really.
- 9:10Speaker 2: I thought there was a deeper subplot where he just
- 9:13Speaker 2: gave her the internship just to just to like kick
- 9:16Speaker 2: her down. But that never came up, so I was like,
- 9:19Speaker 2: maybe I'm just maybe that's the twenty ten's drama that
- 9:23Speaker 2: I'm expecting.
- 9:24Speaker 1: Yeah, I think what I got from was that he
- 9:29Speaker 1: was just trying to apologize for how she was treated
- 9:31Speaker 1: at that dinner, Yeah, with his wife and his family,
- 9:35Speaker 1: and they were so talk to us about Emilie and Lurlai,
- 9:45Speaker 1: you know, their dynamic, and the articles said you could
- 9:48Speaker 1: sympathize with both sides. Did did your side change when
- 9:58Speaker 1: you watch a series?
- 10:00Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 10:01Speaker 2: I think I think watching the series definitely made me
- 10:04Speaker 2: think about things in my life. I just you know,
- 10:06Speaker 2: as the daughter in the mother daughter relationship, you're always
- 10:10Speaker 2: going to automatically have a bias between like not feeling
- 10:12Speaker 2: like you have enough freedom or wanting to just get
- 10:15Speaker 2: away from what you've known for so long in order
- 10:17Speaker 2: to pursue, you know, what makes you happy. And Emily
- 10:22Speaker 2: and Laura l I had this thing where Lurai felt
- 10:25Speaker 2: trapped and she felt claustrophobic. But I think what changed
- 10:30Speaker 2: for me was that flashback scene where they show Emily
- 10:35Speaker 2: picking up the note from Laura I and seeing that
- 10:37Speaker 2: her daughter has run away, and so there was there
- 10:40Speaker 2: was a build up before that it was her daughter
- 10:42Speaker 2: going to the hospital without calling her, and all of
- 10:44Speaker 2: these things that happened where Laura I just started drinking
- 10:50Speaker 2: the amount of communication that they had and then totally
- 10:54Speaker 2: cut her off out of her life. I feel like
- 10:56Speaker 2: that's when it hit me, and I was like, well,
- 10:59Speaker 2: I can see how this feels on Emily's side, where
- 11:02Speaker 2: you all, you have your daughter under your roof and
- 11:05Speaker 2: all of a sudden she's gone and she doesn't talk
- 11:06Speaker 2: to you, And so I I sympathize with her because
- 11:11Speaker 2: you know, you never want that to happen with any
- 11:13Speaker 2: relationship in your life where somebody just like completely cuts
- 11:15Speaker 2: you off, especially if you love them so much. And
- 11:17Speaker 2: even though they had a really turbulent relationship, you can
- 11:23Speaker 2: see that Emily really loves her at the end of
- 11:25Speaker 2: the day throughout the entire series, that even though she does, like,
- 11:28Speaker 2: you know, bribe her to get her to come to
- 11:30Speaker 2: family dinners. And is that the most healthy way to
- 11:32Speaker 2: talk to your daughter. Probably not, but in her own
- 11:36Speaker 2: weird ways, she was just trying to get closer to her.
- 11:39Speaker 2: So I sympathized.
- 11:41Speaker 1: And you know, Laurela was a tough customer at those dinners.
- 11:44Speaker 1: I mean, she said, I mean, it was just insult
- 11:47Speaker 1: after insult after veiled insult and insults in your face,
- 11:51Speaker 1: and Emily just sort of, you know, took the shot.
- 11:53Speaker 2: Just took it.
- 11:54Speaker 1: Yeah, And.
- 11:57Speaker 2: Laurela has her flaws, and you have to acknowledge that
- 12:00Speaker 2: sometimes she was like out of like out of pocket,
- 12:03Speaker 2: you know, Like I think especially when Rory said that
- 12:07Speaker 2: she had applied to Yale, and Laurel I just you know,
- 12:11Speaker 2: just lost it at dinner. It's like, well, that was
- 12:14Speaker 2: her choice for all, So you can't blame your parents
- 12:17Speaker 2: for everything, you know, and she just kind of took
- 12:21Speaker 2: it out on them, and it was one of those
- 12:23Speaker 2: those scenes where you're just like, Laura I is just
- 12:25Speaker 2: acting out and she has a lot of baggage that
- 12:27Speaker 2: she needs to get through.
- 12:28Speaker 1: So what are your overall thoughts on Emily's mother.
- 12:34Speaker 2: I think that in her own way, she thought that
- 12:38Speaker 2: she was doing the best she could, but sometimes she
- 12:42Speaker 2: didn't respect her her daughter's autonomy, and she was trying
- 12:46Speaker 2: to project all of these these expectations on her when
- 12:50Speaker 2: she was little and try to like prep her for
- 12:53Speaker 2: the primp society that they lived in Connecticut, but didn't
- 12:56Speaker 2: really I don't know it doesn't seem like they ever
- 12:58Speaker 2: had a conversation that was helpful between the two of
- 13:01Speaker 2: them where she was like, Laura, I do you actually
- 13:04Speaker 2: want this? I mean, Laura Lei's whole I think character
- 13:07Speaker 2: arc was just her trying to express that she never
- 13:10Speaker 2: felt her to her mother. So I feel like there
- 13:13Speaker 2: was just lack of communication, but also lack of listening
- 13:17Speaker 2: on both sides, and that's that's what's relatable to their
- 13:20Speaker 2: relationship that I was like.
- 13:21Speaker 1: M M, so, so you think Rory dropping out of
- 13:29Speaker 1: Yale is out of character for her? That is that?
- 13:31Speaker 1: Is that what you said in your article.
- 13:33Speaker 2: I thought it was until I realized that she had
- 13:38Speaker 2: a more sheltered childhood that I wasn't acknowledging. But when
- 13:42Speaker 2: I went through that, when I when I first saw
- 13:44Speaker 2: those few episodes, and people online kind of like they
- 13:47Speaker 2: skipped those intentionally. I saw a video where somebody called
- 13:50Speaker 2: it like her dark Days, where they just like don't
- 13:52Speaker 2: want to they don't want to hear it, they don't
- 13:54Speaker 2: want to go through it.
- 13:54Speaker 3: But I felt like it was out.
- 13:56Speaker 2: Of character because she was she was always trying to
- 14:01Speaker 2: just climb the ladder in order to you know, she
- 14:03Speaker 2: had been dreaming about Harvard her entire life, and even
- 14:08Speaker 2: though she always had a plan and it didn't see it.
- 14:13Speaker 2: I wasn't under the impression that anyone was going to
- 14:15Speaker 2: get in the way of that. But then you look
- 14:18Speaker 2: at stuff like her moving from from Harvard to Yale
- 14:23Speaker 2: in like a very very short amount of time. I
- 14:26Speaker 2: just think that there are points in her life where
- 14:28Speaker 2: you can you can pinpoint where she kind of just
- 14:31Speaker 2: like rolls over, and I wasn't acknowledging that until, you know,
- 14:36Speaker 2: until it happened.
- 14:38Speaker 1: You think Richard and Lemonley did her a disservice by
- 14:42Speaker 1: allowing her to drop out and move in with him.
- 14:45Speaker 2: I think in some way they were treating Rory the
- 14:49Speaker 2: way that they wish they treated Laura Lili and I
- 14:53Speaker 2: feel like, to me, that's part of the reason why
- 14:56Speaker 2: Laura I took it so hard, because not only did
- 15:00Speaker 2: they go against her and go behind her back and
- 15:02Speaker 2: you know, let her drop out and not be on
- 15:04Speaker 2: her side because they were gonna they were gonna like
- 15:07Speaker 2: they were going to team up against her and get
- 15:09Speaker 2: her to you know, enroll. But I just think that
- 15:14Speaker 2: they had made a lot of mistakes with Laura Laive
- 15:17Speaker 2: that they wish that they could counteract, and Rory was
- 15:20Speaker 2: their second chance. I think, like Richard says, after maybe
- 15:25Speaker 2: like a few months, that he wished he would have
- 15:27Speaker 2: pushed her to enroll, But then again, there's just so
- 15:31Speaker 2: many deeper family dynamics that just come to play with Rory.
- 15:42Speaker 1: Do you think the fans deserved the Luke and Laura
- 15:44Speaker 1: l wedding?
- 15:46Speaker 3: I do, even I did.
- 15:48Speaker 2: I did watch the revival too, because I got a
- 15:51Speaker 2: lot of feedback on the story because I watched the
- 15:54Speaker 2: series and I was like, do I watch the Revival,
- 15:56Speaker 2: like is it worth it?
- 15:57Speaker 3: And people were like, yeah, watch it.
- 15:59Speaker 2: And I know that we did, like get a wedding,
- 16:02Speaker 2: but it was like e lopement. I wanted the big
- 16:05Speaker 2: I want to see her in the perfect dress, in
- 16:06Speaker 2: the perfect in the perfect church, in the perfect like
- 16:10Speaker 2: you know, June Day. And I felt cheated. That's I
- 16:14Speaker 2: don't know how you felt about that.
- 16:16Speaker 1: I felt I felt really cheated. I really did. I
- 16:20Speaker 1: was shocked when I read the scripts for the yeah,
- 16:25Speaker 1: the Netflix episodes, I was I.
- 16:27Speaker 2: Just I just felt like they were prolonging the inevitable
- 16:31Speaker 2: and they were so like I said, even though we
- 16:33Speaker 2: weren't there for the eight or nine years of build up,
- 16:36Speaker 2: like Luke was there for the eight and nine years
- 16:38Speaker 2: of build up, like we were in like six seasons
- 16:40Speaker 2: of build up like this long, like slow Burn, and
- 16:45Speaker 2: you just want to see it come all the way together.
- 16:47Speaker 2: And then you had build up between like Luke and
- 16:50Speaker 2: Rory's like father daughter relationship, and you wanted to see
- 16:54Speaker 2: like you know, that wrapped up with a nice little
- 16:56Speaker 2: bow and see you know, he was there for all
- 16:58Speaker 2: of her her big moments and milestones, like I want,
- 17:03Speaker 2: I want to see it all come together, like that's
- 17:05Speaker 2: what they deserved.
- 17:06Speaker 1: And right, where's the payoff for the character and where's
- 17:10Speaker 1: the payoff for the relationship, and where's the payoff for
- 17:12Speaker 1: the fans? Yeah, it didn't happen.
- 17:15Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know, I know there wasn't, Like I
- 17:18Speaker 2: know it kind of happened in the revival, But I
- 17:21Speaker 2: still I wanted I wanted that wedding, you know, right that.
- 17:25Speaker 1: Was really all about her moment, you know what I mean.
- 17:29Speaker 1: I mean Luke wasn't involved in her moment, right, And
- 17:33Speaker 1: arguably that's the direction it had to go in, or
- 17:37Speaker 1: should have gone in. But still it was odd. It
- 17:40Speaker 1: felt a little lot. Do you feel like Luke was
- 17:43Speaker 1: the one for Laura?
- 17:45Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm one hundred percent he Luke, I do. I
- 17:50Speaker 2: you know, he was all like I said, he was
- 17:52Speaker 2: always there for her during all of her like quote
- 17:55Speaker 2: unquote eras like when she was with Maxi Medina.
- 17:57Speaker 3: He was always like we're in the background.
- 17:59Speaker 2: And I wish that Like earlier in the early seasons,
- 18:03Speaker 2: when I didn't know what was going to happen, I
- 18:05Speaker 2: was like, Luke, like stand up for yourself. Like I
- 18:09Speaker 2: was like, after out, you know, do something, And I
- 18:14Speaker 2: was just like, Okay, I understand, like we need to
- 18:17Speaker 2: be like they need to give the audience like something
- 18:19Speaker 2: on the back burner, like to root for. But I
- 18:22Speaker 2: was like he's and he wasn't exactly. I don't think
- 18:26Speaker 2: your character was one like pining for her. Like he
- 18:29Speaker 2: wasn't in her face.
- 18:30Speaker 1: Oh he was. He just he just was playing it cool.
- 18:34Speaker 3: Yeah, he was playing it cool.
- 18:36Speaker 1: But he's that guy. He's not gonna allow himself to
- 18:40Speaker 1: get humiliated.
- 18:41Speaker 2: Or hurt, right, which is why I was like Laura Lai,
- 18:44Speaker 2: like are like like look in front of you.
- 18:47Speaker 3: Like every single morning, I just didn't. I was.
- 18:51Speaker 1: Do something any think they could you think they could
- 18:53Speaker 1: have milked that for another couple of seasons or was
- 18:55Speaker 1: that season four the right time for the first.
- 18:57Speaker 3: Kiss Season four, I was getting answered.
- 19:00Speaker 2: I was like, it needs to happen, and I think
- 19:02Speaker 2: it happened in the right time. But yeah, I didn't.
- 19:06Speaker 2: I always I like never bought the Max Medina her
- 19:09Speaker 2: getting married to MAXI media like well, like I got knew,
- 19:11Speaker 2: like Okay, he's gonna leave, Like you can't have Luke
- 19:15Speaker 2: here and like not realize and you know, all her
- 19:20Speaker 2: like suky and out like all of her for like
- 19:22Speaker 2: the entire town, which is like when you have the
- 19:25Speaker 2: entire like small town backing this, you know, this entire
- 19:29Speaker 2: this couple that they think is you know, a match
- 19:32Speaker 2: made in heaven together, you know, the audience is like, yeah,
- 19:35Speaker 2: like when is it going to happen?
- 19:38Speaker 1: So talk to me about larelized style. What do you
- 19:41Speaker 1: love about it?
- 19:43Speaker 3: Oh?
- 19:43Speaker 2: I just think it's the two thousand, like early two
- 19:46Speaker 2: thousands of revival, Like I don't know, in twenty fourteen,
- 19:50Speaker 2: it was the eighties, and then earlier like later it
- 19:53Speaker 2: was the nineties, and now we're kind of in the
- 19:55Speaker 2: like early ots period and it's just I mean, I
- 19:59Speaker 2: say my article like I want her entire closet, like
- 20:02Speaker 2: everything that's cute now is what was what she was
- 20:07Speaker 2: wearing in the series, which is maybe why a lot
- 20:10Speaker 2: of people want to watch it as well.
- 20:12Speaker 1: That is interesting her.
- 20:15Speaker 2: Her baby teased her like low waisted flareer jeans, and
- 20:20Speaker 2: you know she's she's young for who people consider are
- 20:25Speaker 2: a mom, So you can kind of see yourself in
- 20:30Speaker 2: in what in her closet right now, and also kind
- 20:32Speaker 2: of Rory's I did not mention though that Rory's like
- 20:36Speaker 2: opening scene where she has that cablenit sweater is something
- 20:40Speaker 2: that people are like coveting right now. So it's just
- 20:42Speaker 2: a lot of Gilmore's closet content. That's just I mean,
- 20:46Speaker 2: Luke had the flannel and that was pretty big in
- 20:48Speaker 2: like twenty fifteen, So I will give you that you
- 20:50Speaker 2: were your closet was the first thing that was like trending.
- 20:53Speaker 1: So so Laurla Gilmore fashion icon. Yeah, one hundred interesting,
- 21:01Speaker 1: very interesting. Well, it has been a pleasure talking to you, Abigail.
- 21:07Speaker 1: I would recommend everybody going to Vogue dot com and
- 21:11Speaker 1: reading this article. It's entitled I'm twenty two and I
- 21:15Speaker 1: just watched Gilmour Girls for the first time. Here were
- 21:18Speaker 1: my thoughts Vogue dot com, Abigail Williams, thank you so much,
- 21:23Speaker 1: good luck on an ever successful career, building your career,
- 21:29Speaker 1: and we're looking forward to more content from you. Thank
- 21:33Speaker 1: you so much for your time.
- 21:34Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me.
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