Latest / 360 with Katie Woolf / Member for Namatjira Bill Yan says Lia Finocchiaro has the support of the parliamentary wing amid plans for a vote of no confidence in her leadership by a CLP branch
Transcript
- 0:00Speaker 1: Yesterday, the leader of the opposition, Lea Finocchiaro, delivered her
- 0:03Speaker 1: budget in reply and in an unexpected move and announced
- 0:07Speaker 1: Bill Yan, the Member for Aamajira, is going to take
- 0:10Speaker 1: over the opposition's treasurer portfolio and become the Treasurer if
- 0:14Speaker 1: the CLP were to be elected. Now Bill Yan joins
- 0:18Speaker 1: me on the line. Good morning to you, Bill, Good
- 0:21Speaker 1: morning Katie, how are you really well?
- 0:23Speaker 2: Thanks so much for your time, Bill.
- 0:25Speaker 1: Before we get into the budget reply, I understand there
- 0:28Speaker 1: was a debate about crime overnight after emotion was brought
- 0:32Speaker 1: on by Robin Lamley, the Member Farara lun.
- 0:35Speaker 2: What happened.
- 0:37Speaker 3: Well as usual with Labor, Katie. Robin bought her motion
- 0:41Speaker 3: which was about crime in al Springs and what Labor
- 0:45Speaker 3: a not doing to address crime down Ericles. Labor changed
- 0:48Speaker 3: the motion so they could pat themselves on the back
- 0:50Speaker 3: and say how much the government's doing to reduce crime
- 0:53Speaker 3: in the area. So we changed the motion back again
- 0:56Speaker 3: so we could speak about the lack of action by
- 0:59Speaker 3: Labor on what they're specifically doing in our springs. But
- 1:03Speaker 3: it's usual form Forulay, but they don't like being criticized
- 1:05Speaker 3: about what they're not doing, and they change the emotions
- 1:08Speaker 3: as they can to talk about all the good things
- 1:11Speaker 3: that they think they're doing in the area, and that's
- 1:14Speaker 3: certainly not the case, particularly for our springs, that's for sure.
- 1:16Speaker 1: Well, I tell you what, it's high time that they
- 1:18Speaker 1: started listening to territories because today we know that there's
- 1:22Speaker 1: going to be another rally outside of Parliament House. We
- 1:25Speaker 1: also know overnight a number of vehicles stolen. My understanding
- 1:29Speaker 1: is that seven youths are now in custody as a
- 1:33Speaker 1: result of those vehicles being stolen overnight. I just don't
- 1:37Speaker 1: understand what else needs to happen for this government to
- 1:41Speaker 1: open their eyes and take notice.
- 1:43Speaker 3: Well, and that's the thing just keeps escalating and escalating
- 1:47Speaker 3: and escalating, and it comes down to no consequence for actions.
- 1:50Speaker 3: I was shown a video on TikTok just last week
- 1:55Speaker 3: before I came up. This way, young kids in a
- 1:59Speaker 3: stolen product. They can barely see over the wheel. They're
- 2:01Speaker 3: actually chasing the police in the stolen legle. This stuff
- 2:06Speaker 3: is mad and was it going to take. It's going
- 2:08Speaker 3: to take another death of an innocent person just being
- 2:12Speaker 3: somewhere that they shouldn't be, or is going to put
- 2:15Speaker 3: it in the wrong place at the wrong time, or
- 2:16Speaker 3: one of these kids that have stolen the vehicle crashing
- 2:19Speaker 3: it because they can't control the vehicle. What's going to
- 2:23Speaker 3: take for the government to really stand up and take
- 2:25Speaker 3: a long, hard look at this and actually takes an action.
- 2:27Speaker 2: I really don't know. I mean, it was.
- 2:30Speaker 1: It became pretty clear to me on Tuesday when I
- 2:32Speaker 1: interviewed the Chief Minister that she feels as though what
- 2:34Speaker 1: they are doing right now is the path that they
- 2:37Speaker 1: need to continue on. I'm beginning to wonder, though, you know,
- 2:40Speaker 1: whether her parliamentary colleagues feel the same, because surely they
- 2:43Speaker 1: are listening to normal people at this point in time.
- 2:46Speaker 2: Who are saying that they've had enough.
- 2:48Speaker 1: But Bill, I'll move along because we know that that
- 2:51Speaker 1: budget reply, well, it was delivered yesterday, and you've got
- 2:55Speaker 1: a promotion in that speech and now you're the opposition
- 2:58Speaker 1: spokesperson for treasury. Are you surprised that this move was
- 3:01Speaker 1: made by Leah Fanocchiaro.
- 3:04Speaker 3: We had the discussion early in the week about it,
- 3:07Speaker 3: and it's always been a plan of le'z not to
- 3:09Speaker 3: be the Treasurer leading into twenty twenty four. She picked
- 3:12Speaker 3: up the portfolio when we after twenty twenty election, of course,
- 3:16Speaker 3: because I said, we're all a little bit green and
- 3:19Speaker 3: sort of learning the ropes, and I said, now we're
- 3:21Speaker 3: we're coming up to three years in, so it was
- 3:24Speaker 3: good time to make that change. Of course, it diversifies
- 3:27Speaker 3: and strengthens the team leading into twenty twenty four. And
- 3:31Speaker 3: I'm really quite proud to be asked to take on
- 3:34Speaker 3: the role. I have no doubt it's going to be
- 3:36Speaker 3: a hell of a challenge and a steep learning curve,
- 3:38Speaker 3: I have no doubt about that. But I'm really looking
- 3:41Speaker 3: forward to it actually to making sure that we look
- 3:43Speaker 3: at the money that is coming into the territory. Territory
- 3:46Speaker 3: is money, how it's spent, and make sure that we
- 3:48Speaker 3: spend in a way that's certainly going to benefit every
- 3:51Speaker 3: territory in the best way we possibly can.
- 3:53Speaker 1: Bill In that speech delivered by Leah, she said that
- 3:57Speaker 1: the COLPS planned for the territory will take control of
- 4:01Speaker 1: our straights, rebuild our reputation, and get our economy moving forward.
- 4:05Speaker 2: Again, what exactly is that plan?
- 4:09Speaker 3: Well, first and foremost is investment in our police. And
- 4:14Speaker 3: there's one thing it's really quite interesting that's happened just
- 4:16Speaker 3: this week. If you look at the Queensland budget, they're
- 4:20Speaker 3: throwing out twenty thousand dollars incentives to get police to
- 4:23Speaker 3: come across the Queensland. And if that's not an open
- 4:27Speaker 3: poaching method to take probably some disillusioned Northern Territory police
- 4:32Speaker 3: officers who I'm not happy with what's taking place here
- 4:35Speaker 3: across the Queensland, then I don't know what is. It's
- 4:39Speaker 3: a missed opportunity by the files government to probably try
- 4:43Speaker 3: and attrack some police back across the territory and restore
- 4:47Speaker 3: some confidence in territories about how they're going to tackle
- 4:51Speaker 3: crime by increasing the number of police that we have
- 4:54Speaker 3: and giving the resources that they need. So that's probably
- 4:57Speaker 3: the number one thing that we're focused is making sure
- 5:00Speaker 3: that our police are resourced properly to be able to
- 5:02Speaker 3: do their job and cut down some of that red
- 5:05Speaker 3: tape that's a barrier to industry and to business. We
- 5:10Speaker 3: see it every time under a labor government, the red tape,
- 5:13Speaker 3: and now it's called beige tape. It just keeps cropping
- 5:16Speaker 3: up and it's a barrier to people getting in and
- 5:19Speaker 3: developing the territory. So we still leave the checks and balances,
- 5:22Speaker 3: but we can get there a lot easier and a
- 5:24Speaker 3: lot quicker if we make some of those processes easier
- 5:28Speaker 3: and get our public service working with business and working
- 5:32Speaker 3: with them well to develop the territory in the future.
- 5:35Speaker 1: Bill, how much is it going to cost to fulfill
- 5:39Speaker 1: some of those promises i e. You know, getting more
- 5:41Speaker 1: boots on the ground for the police. Has the CRP costed.
- 5:44Speaker 3: This, No, Look, we haven't costed this at this stage, Katie,
- 5:48Speaker 3: And that's something we'll be doing leading into twenty twenty
- 5:51Speaker 3: four to look at police numbers and how those resources
- 5:54Speaker 3: are are best used across the territory. Will take some
- 5:57Speaker 3: number crunching. We haven't done that at this stage.
- 6:00Speaker 1: But is it I mean, is it irresponsible to make
- 6:03Speaker 1: those promises without doing that.
- 6:06Speaker 3: Well, we need to make the call. We need to
- 6:08Speaker 3: resource the police because at the end of the day,
- 6:10Speaker 3: we need to make sure that people in the territory
- 6:12Speaker 3: feel safe in our own homes, at work and just
- 6:14Speaker 3: going about their day day lives. Because at the moment, Katie,
- 6:17Speaker 3: as we know, people don't. You've only had to look
- 6:19Speaker 3: at what's happened overnight with those the ram rage and
- 6:21Speaker 3: the Solemn vehicles and the home invasions. People are not
- 6:25Speaker 3: safe it seems anywhere anymore. So we have to resource
- 6:28Speaker 3: our police to do their job effectively and give them
- 6:31Speaker 3: back the tools they need to do their job. Yes,
- 6:34Speaker 3: it will cost money. We need to have a look
- 6:36Speaker 3: at how we're going to do that. We need to
- 6:38Speaker 3: crunch numbers to see what that's going to look like.
- 6:40Speaker 3: But it's certainly something that where's the CEOP are committed
- 6:44Speaker 3: to doing to making sure that they said the people
- 6:47Speaker 3: of the territory are safe again.
- 6:48Speaker 1: Bill, There is no doubt that crime is the number
- 6:52Speaker 1: one issue right now across the Northern Territory. But people
- 6:54Speaker 1: also want to see the economy boosted and they want
- 6:57Speaker 1: that budget to be managed responsibly.
- 7:00Speaker 2: How would the CLP get the.
- 7:01Speaker 1: Economy moving You mentioned just a moment ago cutting that red.
- 7:04Speaker 3: Tape, Well said, we need to start backing in our mining,
- 7:10Speaker 3: whether that's onshore gas minerals and our partial and our
- 7:14Speaker 3: tourism industries. There it's our own source revenue that is
- 7:17Speaker 3: going to boost the territory economy. Whilst it's great to
- 7:20Speaker 3: get those large numbers of GST from the federal government,
- 7:24Speaker 3: well it only takes a slight recession and the Federal
- 7:28Speaker 3: treasure I mentioned this in his budget just the other
- 7:31Speaker 3: day that it's possible that the Australian economy could go
- 7:35Speaker 3: into a small recession. Now we go into a small recession, also,
- 7:38Speaker 3: those GSC numbers for us here in a territory will drop,
- 7:41Speaker 3: so we'll see that level of debt increase. We're already
- 7:44Speaker 3: at nine point nine to eight billion now, which is
- 7:47Speaker 3: what is at one point three million dollars in interest
- 7:49Speaker 3: repayments every day, and that's like it's sixty thousand dollars
- 7:53Speaker 3: debt to every adult and territory. We can't sustain that
- 7:57Speaker 3: longer term because it will be our kids and our
- 7:58Speaker 3: grandkids that are paying back our debt or Labour's debt
- 8:02Speaker 3: from this point in time. So we need to be
- 8:06Speaker 3: boosting and working with industry to develop our own source revenue.
- 8:11Speaker 3: It would seems sadly that if you get a major
- 8:14Speaker 3: project status with the Labor government, it's like it's the deathnel.
- 8:17Speaker 3: Every time a grant major project status, the project falls
- 8:20Speaker 3: over one of.
- 8:21Speaker 1: The lines that the Labor Party always pulls on the
- 8:24Speaker 1: COLP And you know it's fair enough because the last
- 8:27Speaker 1: time you guys were in you did cut public service jobs.
- 8:30Speaker 1: Are you guys going to be cutting public service jobs
- 8:33Speaker 1: to rain in the budget?
- 8:36Speaker 3: Leia said yesterday in our budget replied, we won't be
- 8:38Speaker 3: cutting any public service jobs. We need to support our
- 8:41Speaker 3: public service and we need our public service there to
- 8:44Speaker 3: support territories and support those all important projects and industries
- 8:49Speaker 3: that are gain to grow our economy into the future.
- 8:52Speaker 3: So that's a commitment from Lea yesterday and we'll certainly
- 8:57Speaker 3: be sticking to that. We need said we need our
- 9:00Speaker 3: public service, but at the end of the day, we
- 9:04Speaker 3: need to make sure that our public service is supporting
- 9:08Speaker 3: those growth industries and working closely with them for that
- 9:12Speaker 3: development so we can grow our own source revenue.
- 9:14Speaker 2: Here to Territory Bell before I let you go.
- 9:17Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago, there was information circulating that
- 9:20Speaker 1: the Alice Springs branch of the CLP was set to
- 9:22Speaker 1: move a vote of no confidence in Leafanochi Ao. Now
- 9:26Speaker 1: it's the Litchfield branch. Does the rank and file of
- 9:29Speaker 1: the CLP have the confidence in Leafanochi Aro.
- 9:35Speaker 3: Well, it seems to be some discontent amongst it seems
- 9:38Speaker 3: a particular branch. I can categorically say it's not the
- 9:41Speaker 3: Alice Springs branches, it's not the one that I'm a
- 9:44Speaker 3: member of.
- 9:45Speaker 1: So did that So did that vote of no confidence
- 9:47Speaker 1: in Alice go ahead?
- 9:50Speaker 3: No, it didn't. No, categorically not Katie. It didn't happen
- 9:53Speaker 3: in Alice Springs. So they said, it's happened from the
- 9:56Speaker 3: or it's come from the Litchfield branch. But the end
- 9:58Speaker 3: of the day, said with that, discontent is just sort
- 10:01Speaker 3: of trying to detract from the things that we need
- 10:05Speaker 3: to do as ce LP that there's so many pressing
- 10:08Speaker 3: issues at the moment around crime and the economy that
- 10:12Speaker 3: are affecting everyday territories. Sadly, this is a little bit
- 10:15Speaker 3: of a distraction as to what we're trying to do.
- 10:18Speaker 3: But I can tell you now that I'm focused and
- 10:20Speaker 3: the team certainly focused on doing that work to represent territories,
- 10:26Speaker 3: particularly around those hot topics. As you said, crime, it's
- 10:29Speaker 3: just a hither out of control and where we're trying
- 10:32Speaker 3: to hold the government to accountman, And sadly, the distractions
- 10:35Speaker 3: from some of the rank control members again just a distraction. Bill.
- 10:41Speaker 1: Are you annoyed by that side show that seems to
- 10:44Speaker 1: be going on at the moment. Honestly, I think to myself,
- 10:47Speaker 1: what happened to the COLP back in twenty twelve is
- 10:50Speaker 1: that they would decimated and it was because, you know,
- 10:53Speaker 1: for a lot of reasons, but a lot of this
- 10:55Speaker 1: kind of garbage was going on. I mean, are you
- 10:58Speaker 1: annoyed that this kind of thing is continueing to happen
- 11:00Speaker 1: within the party? Oh?
- 11:02Speaker 3: I certainly am, Katy. It really annoys me because at
- 11:05Speaker 3: the end of the day, I said, I'm focused to
- 11:06Speaker 3: delivering for the people of my electric representing the people manager,
- 11:10Speaker 3: but also focused on representing the bigger picture stuff for
- 11:14Speaker 3: all territories. And that's what my focus is, and that's
- 11:17Speaker 3: what the team's focus is. And sadly, I said, this
- 11:20Speaker 3: is a distraction sitting behind the SEALP at the moment.
- 11:24Speaker 3: But again it's it's like any party and any group.
- 11:28Speaker 3: You always have some people agree and some people that
- 11:30Speaker 3: won't agree. And that look, that's the great thing I
- 11:32Speaker 3: suppose about the CELP in some respects as of the
- 11:35Speaker 3: diversity of the members. But yeah, I said, it annoys me.
- 11:40Speaker 3: I said, I just want to get on with focusing
- 11:42Speaker 3: on delivering for people here in the territory, and we
- 11:46Speaker 3: have this sitting in the background and I said, it's
- 11:48Speaker 3: just a distraction, which is really really unfortunate.
- 11:51Speaker 1: So, Bill, from your perspective, is Lea fanok Ao safe
- 11:54Speaker 1: as the leader of the CLP?
- 11:57Speaker 3: Certainly is Katie, absolutely no doubt.
- 11:59Speaker 2: And she has the support of the Parliamentary Wing.
- 12:02Speaker 3: Yes she does. Yeah, absolutely, support of all the members
- 12:06Speaker 3: of the wing.
- 12:06Speaker 1: And so so do you think this is just a
- 12:09Speaker 1: few trouble makers.
- 12:11Speaker 3: Oh, there's just some people who who I said, may
- 12:15Speaker 3: have some differences with Leah, and that's maybe all of these.
- 12:18Speaker 3: I said, I'm not privy to what takes place in
- 12:20Speaker 3: the Litchfeld branch, probably though I haven't actually read the
- 12:24Speaker 3: motion yet, so I'm probably one of those people that
- 12:26Speaker 3: are in the dark and I only hear, yeah, what
- 12:29Speaker 3: I'm getting through on media and some of the stuff
- 12:32Speaker 3: on social media. But yeah, look, it's it's just look,
- 12:34Speaker 3: at the end of the day, it's a distraction, but
- 12:36Speaker 3: we're focused on delivering those key things for territories that
- 12:40Speaker 3: are affecting us all at the moment.
- 12:42Speaker 1: Bill, just very quickly, we are hearing that the galleries,
- 12:45Speaker 1: the open gallery there at Parliament is going to be
- 12:48Speaker 1: closed today around question time. Do you know anything about this?
- 12:53Speaker 3: Yeah, I just heard about this probably about half an
- 12:56Speaker 3: hour ago, Katie, and it's it's obviously a decision of
- 12:58Speaker 3: government to close gallery and it's quite unfortunately. I think
- 13:02Speaker 3: there'll be a lot of people that are disappointed who
- 13:05Speaker 3: may have liked to come in to question time today
- 13:08Speaker 3: and have a listen to what goes on, because again
- 13:12Speaker 3: we'll be focusing on some of those crime issues and
- 13:14Speaker 3: those things that are affecting territories and people might have
- 13:17Speaker 3: wanted to come in and have a bit of a
- 13:19Speaker 3: look and have a little bit of listen about me
- 13:21Speaker 3: what the parliamentary process looks like and what goes on
- 13:24Speaker 3: and they won't get that opportunity today, which is probably
- 13:26Speaker 3: going to upset a lot of people and it's quite unfortunate.
- 13:29Speaker 1: Well, we'll see what we can find out. Bill Yan,
- 13:31Speaker 1: the Member foranma Jira. Always appreciate your time. Thanks so
- 13:34Speaker 1: much for joining us this morning.
- 13:36Speaker 3: Cheers Katie, so thank you.