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Sharri | 11 August · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Evening.
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Speaker 2: On the show Tonight, Anthony Albinizi admits he's responsible for
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Speaker 2: the housing crunch as the IBA Warren's families.
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Speaker 3: Might lose their homes. Just Enterprise will be.
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Speaker 2: Here to discuss, and I can exclusively reveal a prominent
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Speaker 2: leader who's led the fight against anti Semitism in universities
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Speaker 2: was not called to appear at the Royal Commission. I'll
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Speaker 2: have those details in a moment. Also discuss with Ben English,
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Speaker 2: and an American billionaire reveals he and his wife suffered
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Speaker 2: seven miscarriages after Anthony Fauci's bombshell texts show the disgrace
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Speaker 2: doctor knew about the risks of the COVID vaccine for
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Speaker 2: pregnant women, but said nothing more on that in a moment.
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Speaker 2: But first to stark warning from the IBA Today Australians
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Speaker 2: may be waiting another two years for a rate cut
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Speaker 2: as it kept the care rate on hold at four
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Speaker 2: point three five percent, and Governor Michelle Bullock made one
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Speaker 2: thing clear. Every member of the Reserve Bank Board remains
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Speaker 2: concerned about inflation and the Bank is leaving the door
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Speaker 2: open to a future rate rights with little confidence inflation
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Speaker 2: will return to target anytime soon and in fact, she
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Speaker 2: wanned rates may still rise.
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Speaker 4: I think the message today is that in waiting, the
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Speaker 4: board isn't ruling out that there might be a need
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Speaker 4: for further interest rate rises. There was a diversity of
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Speaker 4: views about how strongly people felt that they were worried
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Speaker 4: about inflation, but everyone was at least a little bit
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Speaker 4: worried about what those inflationary risks might be and what
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Speaker 4: they might imply.
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Speaker 2: And Bullock also delivered a sobering assessment of the housing downturn,
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Speaker 2: and worryingly, she revealed the RBA they had modeled an
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Speaker 2: even deeper fall in property prices than the fifteen percent
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Speaker 2: forecast by A and Z just this week, and her
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Speaker 2: message was that some families could face a serious financial distress,
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Speaker 2: but the banking system will remain secure.
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Speaker 4: I think we've done some scenarios. If property prices fell
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Speaker 4: by twenty percent, still only about five percent of households
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Speaker 4: would be in negative equity. And then you add to
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Speaker 4: that that negative equity only matters if you are a
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Speaker 4: distressed seller and you need to get rid of the
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Speaker 4: property because you'll lose your job, or for family breakdowns
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Speaker 4: or things like that. Awful circumstances which are compounded by
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Speaker 4: the fact that you'd have to sell your house, but
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Speaker 4: it doesn't pose a risk to the financial institutions because
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Speaker 4: they are very well capitalized.
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Speaker 2: That is an increasingly grim reality that's facing Australian families,
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Speaker 2: and yet it's one the Prime Minister flatly refuses to acknowledge.
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Speaker 2: It's his government's drastic tax changes that are fueling this
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Speaker 2: housing crunch, and instead of apologizing for the fact that
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Speaker 2: some buyers will be forced to sell their homes, he's
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Speaker 2: actually taking credit for it now. For weeks, Albaneze's ministers
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Speaker 2: have ducked and weaved around the question of whether they
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Speaker 2: actually wanted house.
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Speaker 3: Prices to collapse.
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Speaker 2: Well, finally, today in question time he couldn't escape the
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Speaker 2: question and the Prime Minister took responsibility for the housing
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Speaker 2: crunch in Parliament. He admitted that he wanted house prices
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Speaker 2: to fall.
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Speaker 5: Labour's toxic taxes have tanked the housing market. Hainz Bank
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Speaker 5: today reports Sydney house prices could fall by almost fifteen percent,
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Speaker 5: the worst crash in more than four decades. Will the
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Speaker 5: Prime Minister finally admit Labour's broken promises on capital gains,
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Speaker 5: tax and negative gearing have made millions of Australian homeowners
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Speaker 5: worse off.
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Speaker 6: We had measures that were aimed at addressing the challenges
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Speaker 6: that are facing young Australians when it comes to owning
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Speaker 6: a house.
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Speaker 3: What we have member for Gibslow, What we have.
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Speaker 6: Had is creating a change in the way that the
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Speaker 6: tech system operates in order to give first home buyers
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Speaker 6: a fair crack.
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Speaker 3: Well.
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Speaker 2: For most households, their family home is their biggest asset
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Speaker 2: and no one's happy to see its value tumble. And
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Speaker 2: as Michelle Bullock indicated, many young buyers are already in
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Speaker 2: or are going to go into negative equity because of
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Speaker 2: disastrous government policies. Yet Albinizi ignores the fact that his
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Speaker 2: tax changes haven't just caused prices to plummet, They've also
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Speaker 2: destroyed confidence in the property market, and this loss of
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Speaker 2: confidence has frozen activity, with buyers and sellers all but
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Speaker 2: retreating from the market and clearance rates are plummeting. The
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Speaker 2: reality is Albanzi would be in dire straits politically if
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Speaker 2: it weren't for the coalition's own performance. The coalition's sub
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Speaker 2: twenty percent primary vote is masking the depth of the
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Speaker 2: Albanese government's poor performance.
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Speaker 3: And political troubles.
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Speaker 2: Now you think when Julia Gillard languished at comparable levels,
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Speaker 2: labor eventually turned back to Kevin rut Albanesi is safe
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Speaker 2: right now only because the Liberals are doing so poorly.
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Speaker 3: For now, his.
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Speaker 2: Greatest political protection is the weakness of his opponents. Now,
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Speaker 2: the private text messages of presidential advisor doctor Anthony Fauci
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Speaker 2: have explosively revealed that as early as January twenty twenty one,
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Speaker 2: he was aware of the rich associated with vaccinating pregnant
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Speaker 2: women with the COVID JAB, yet he didn't tell the public.
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Speaker 2: This is yet another major deception by Anthony Fauci. Now,
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Speaker 2: to catch you up on this, his government phone was
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Speaker 2: last week handed to US Senators Ran Paul and Ron Johnson,
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Speaker 2: and over the past few days they've been trolling through
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Speaker 2: the thirty four thousand text messages on his government phone
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Speaker 2: and the five hundred and twenty two voice messages, and
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Speaker 2: so far the text show Fauci discussing the pros and
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Speaker 2: cons of the COVID vaccine for pregnant women in their
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Speaker 2: early stages. He spoke about misperceptions and anxieties in one
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Speaker 2: text message that then he wrote this, I asked around
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Speaker 2: a bit more, and another issue came up that you
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Speaker 2: need to be aware of. Since many people have significant psychotines,
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Speaker 2: storm and fever after the second dose, this theoretically might
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Speaker 2: lead This theoretically could be associated with miscarriage in the
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Speaker 2: first trimester. Now he sent that text message on January
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Speaker 2: twenty fifth, twenty twenty one, certainly a worrying text message,
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Speaker 2: and the then head of the Centers for Disease Control
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Speaker 2: and Prevention, Rachelle Welenski replied. She said to Fauci, definitely
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Speaker 2: a good point, especially after dose two. Well, the then
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Speaker 2: Surgeon General, doctor Viveck Murphy, he was in this text
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Speaker 2: message exchange the three of them, and he chimed in
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Speaker 2: with this is really helpful.
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Speaker 3: Thanks.
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Speaker 2: I've been hearing the concern about the mRNA causing mutations
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Speaker 2: in the developing.
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Speaker 3: Fetus as well. Well.
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Speaker 2: This is all very well and good, but pregnant women
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Speaker 2: were not told about these potential concerns. And in another message,
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Speaker 2: Viveck Murthy said to Fauci that he was surprised to
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Speaker 2: see the World Health Organization advised women who were pregnant
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Speaker 2: not to get the Maderna vaccine, and he wrote this
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Speaker 2: that's a strong statement to make and potentially quite damaging
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Speaker 2: to public confidence among pregnant women. Now, these text messages
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Speaker 2: have just emerged today. Senator Ron Johnson, one of those
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Speaker 2: analyzing the phone, is furious about them.
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Speaker 7: What you have to connect this to is what they
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Speaker 7: were saying publicly.
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Speaker 8: It was contrary to that.
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Speaker 7: But also what they're publishing.
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Speaker 9: I think this is the tip of the iceberg.
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Speaker 2: All right, So let's have a look at what Anthony
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Speaker 2: Fauchi was saying publicly. You've just seen what he was
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Speaker 2: saying privately. Well publicly, Fauci said that COVID could cause
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Speaker 2: serious illness during pregnancy and that no safety issues had
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Speaker 2: emerged among more than ten thousand pregnant women who'd received
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Speaker 2: the vaccine.
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Speaker 3: Have a look at this.
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Speaker 10: They have been now over ten thousand pregnant women who
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Speaker 10: have said and have been in the trials. The FDA,
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Speaker 10: as part of the typical follow up you have following
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Speaker 10: the initial issuing of an EUA, have found thus far,
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Speaker 10: we got to be careful, but thus far, no red
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Speaker 10: flags about that about pregnant women.
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Speaker 3: No red flags.
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Speaker 2: I mean, those comments were on February the third, twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty one, just one week after their private text messages
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Speaker 2: about the potential miscarriage risks of the vaccine, and then
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Speaker 2: Fauci's language was stronger still a week later.
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Speaker 11: I want to point out that since the EUA, and
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Speaker 11: under the EUA, approximately twenty thousand pregnant women have been
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Speaker 11: vaccinated with no red flags, as we say, and this
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Speaker 11: is being monitored by the CDC and the FDA.
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Speaker 2: And then a few months after that, in April twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty one, the CDC, he explicitly recommended that pregnant women
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Speaker 2: take the COVID vaccine or NIH director. The current NIH
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Speaker 2: director under Trump, says that Fauci owed the public transparency
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Speaker 2: and he should have been up front.
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Speaker 7: And I share your concern. I think that when you
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Speaker 7: have a new product, like the COVID vaccine was back then,
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Speaker 7: you should be careful with pregnant women. And it's shocking
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Speaker 7: to me that he was sharing private thoughts and that
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Speaker 7: when he was out on public and he was not
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Speaker 7: in public a lot, he didn't share those private thoughts
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Speaker 7: with the American public.
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Speaker 2: Now, you've got to remember, in early twenty twenty one,
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Speaker 2: this was still a relatively unknown area, and even now,
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Speaker 2: the health advice remains mixed on whether vaccinated women should
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Speaker 2: receive further doses during pregnancy, and really it's ultimately up
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Speaker 2: to the patient and their doctor to decide. But Fauci's
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Speaker 2: messages today already caused a firestorm, and in response, billionaire
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Speaker 2: hedge fund manager Bill Ackman revealed something deep personal.
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Speaker 3: He said, Nery and I.
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Speaker 2: Had seven miscarriages trying to have a second child during
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Speaker 2: COVID and then the time ran out. Wtf was he thinking?
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Speaker 2: Seven miscarriages? It's pretty clear now from the origins of
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Speaker 2: COVID nineteen to health advice, Fauci's spin is unraveling fast,
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Speaker 2: and with Rand Paul and Ron Johnson on his heels,
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Speaker 2: he could even face a state prosecution. But in the
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Speaker 2: court of public opinion, and certainly in my opinion, he's
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Speaker 2: already been found guilty. I'm going to come back to
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Speaker 2: that topic a bit later. But now we've been criticizing
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Speaker 2: the Royal Commission for its refusal to call prominent Jewish Australians,
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Speaker 2: including Josh Friedenberg. I can now exclusively reveal that Western
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Speaker 2: Sydney University Chancellor Jennifer Westercott put in a submission to
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Speaker 2: the Royal Commission, but was also not called. Now this
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Speaker 2: is extraordinary because Westercott has been the singular figure in
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Speaker 2: the tertiary education sector taking leadership on anti semitism, and
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Speaker 2: she made it very clear that her university would not
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Speaker 2: accept hate speech. She had university leaders undertake antisemitism and
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Speaker 2: cultural awareness training. She created an initiative to help institutions
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Speaker 2: combat extremism. She was the leading figure taking action. She
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Speaker 2: has some of the answers, and yet she wasn't caught.
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Speaker 2: She has first hand experience with the solutions. Jennifer Westercott
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Speaker 2: and I can confirm she'll be on this program to
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Speaker 2: talk about this tomorrow night.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 2: My colleague and friend Chris Kenny also revealed earlier in
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Speaker 2: his show today that former Ambassador to Israel Dave Sharma,
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Speaker 2: had also wanted to give evidence, but was also not
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Speaker 2: called to testify. And as I mentioned last night, I'm
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Speaker 2: personally in the same situation.
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Speaker 3: Well. Liberal Senator James Patterson also.
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Speaker 2: Made the crucial point when he was on this program yesterday,
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Speaker 2: evening that Albanese's ministers will they should be called to
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Speaker 2: account for their actions amid the explosion in hatred.
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Speaker 12: We need the Prime Minister to appear before the Royal Commission.
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Speaker 12: We need the Home Affairs Minister to peer for the
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Speaker 12: Royal Commission. We need the Attorney General and the Foreign
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Speaker 12: Minister to appear for the Royal Commission. They should be
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Speaker 12: cross examined about what they did and what they didn't
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Speaker 12: do to combat antisemitism and the lead up to the
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Speaker 12: horrific terrorist atrocity at Bondai. And if that doesn't happen, well,
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Speaker 12: then I think it'll be very difficult to take this
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Speaker 12: Royal Commission seriously. And I would urge the Commissioner to
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Speaker 12: reflect not just on what the people who appointed her
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Speaker 12: will think of the work that she does, but what
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Speaker 12: history will judge of this Royal Commission. History will be watching,
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Speaker 12: History will judge God forbid if they're in a further
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Speaker 12: frosty is targeting the Jewish community in the future of
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Speaker 12: our country. I wouldn't want to lead a Royal Commission
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Speaker 12: process that wasn't the most thorough, robust, searching examination of that.
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Speaker 3: He is spot on. No one could say it better.
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Speaker 2: And enjoining me now to discuss is Daily Telegraph editor
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Speaker 2: Ben English.
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Speaker 3: Ben, thank you for being here now.
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Speaker 2: There's speculation in the Jewish community that political motivation can
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Speaker 2: be the only possible explanation behind the Commission's refusal to
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Speaker 2: hear evidence from Josh Fridenberg, Dave Sharma, Jennifer Westercott and more.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, well, and you absolutely and how could they be
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Speaker 13: blamed for coming to any other conclusion When you talk
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Speaker 13: about Josh Friedenberg, he's the highest elected official as a Jew,
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Speaker 13: a high selected to Parliament as the Treasurer. You talk
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Speaker 13: about Dave Sharma, the ambassador at Israel, you talk about
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Speaker 13: Jennifer Westercott. Her submission to the Royal Commission was outstanding.
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Speaker 13: It was comprehensive, it was succinct, and she displayed deep
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Speaker 13: understanding of the issue at hand. And yourself, you've been
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Speaker 13: a constant, strident campaigner for Jewish affairs, but also a
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Speaker 13: newsbreaking reporter who's been subjected to vile attacks.
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Speaker 3: Thank you.
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Speaker 13: These four people are, including yourself, would be surely at
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Speaker 13: the top of the list of the people who should
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Speaker 13: have been consulted, who should have been brought before the
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Speaker 13: Royal Commission to give them insights to what let's face it,
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Speaker 13: the whole purpose of the Royal Commission is to understand
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Speaker 13: why this attack took place, why Islamic extremists were able
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Speaker 13: to kill fifteen Jewish people on Australian soil at Bondo Beach.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the lead up to that, of which the
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Speaker 2: government's actions is a crucial part. I mean they, you know,
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Speaker 2: as James Patterson put it, what they did or didn't
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Speaker 2: do as this crisis was exploding. I mean that needs
15:51
Speaker 2: to be examined as well.
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Speaker 13: Quite frankly, I'm shocked that that is not being planned,
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Speaker 13: that ministers are not being brought.
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Speaker 3: To bear for this. Yeah, shocked as well.
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm not shocked, but you know, I think it
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Speaker 2: is shocking they're not being called ben. I want to
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Speaker 2: turn to your front to one of the You've got
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Speaker 2: two great stories in the Daily Telegraph tomorrow. Let's first
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Speaker 2: talk about this one about how students are being warned
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Speaker 2: off Pauline Hansen.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 13: So obviously this is making a lot a lot of
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Speaker 13: people in the left. Paul and Hanson's rise is make
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Speaker 13: a lot of people in the left wet their beds,
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Speaker 13: and particularly they're trying to do whatever they can and
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Speaker 13: a lot of it's stupid, including this one. So some
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Speaker 13: of the more radical elements of Sydney I have now
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Speaker 13: put together an action plan and a march that they
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Speaker 13: want students to take part in. They're handing out pamphlets
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Speaker 13: encouraging them to take time off school and to stay
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Speaker 13: in their uniforms to march against Pauline. And they're calling
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Speaker 13: it the high school Anti Capitalist Toolkit, and basically it's
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Speaker 13: been handing it out outside train stations as kids are
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Speaker 13: making their commute to high school. So it's a disgrace,
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Speaker 13: but it's not surprising.
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Speaker 2: I hate when the activist targets school kids. It's just
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Speaker 2: leave the children alone, let them get an education.
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Speaker 13: I think Pauline's response is fantastic. You just said, look,
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Speaker 13: my advice to kids is to go to school. You'll
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Speaker 13: learn a lot more and you'll come out and realize
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Speaker 13: that I'm on your side.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, good response. Now you've got another amazing paper.
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Speaker 2: This is a story. This is on your front page tomorrow.
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Speaker 2: We can bring it up and have a look at it.
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Speaker 3: Tell us about this, okay.
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Speaker 13: So there's been three hundred petrol stations of the Metro
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Speaker 13: petrol stations have been raided around Australia and essentially the
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Speaker 13: suspicion amongst police and this is a very detailed and
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Speaker 13: comprehensive investigation it's been going for many months. Is that
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Speaker 13: this is part of an organized crime syndicate that has
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Speaker 13: been operating potentially through the through these service station.
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Speaker 3: It's going to have.
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Speaker 13: Implications for commuters because these are the cheapest petrol stations
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Speaker 13: and they drag down the major retailers. But I mean,
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Speaker 13: face it, I mean this is the result of government policy.
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Speaker 13: They've jacked up the exercise to such an extent that
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Speaker 13: people just looking for the cheapest smoke, so they've created
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Speaker 13: a perfect, perfect landscape for organized crime.
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Speaker 2: Step In Premier Chris Mins has been on the other
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Speaker 2: side of the argument on this. He's saying this is
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Speaker 2: creating a real crime.
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Speaker 13: Problem, absolutely, and he's right, and you know we're in
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Speaker 13: lockstep with him. We're basically saying, look, the excise level
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Speaker 13: is basically handing organized crime an opportunity on a platter,
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Speaker 13: and they're just coming to collect the bounty.
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Speaker 2: There's this story that everyone's been speaking about today. The
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Speaker 2: Strathfield Council in Sydney is saying they're putting up a
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Speaker 2: motion to council to basically say all shop front signs
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Speaker 2: should be in English. Now this is controversial, but should it.
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Speaker 13: Be then I don't even know why it is. I mean,
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Speaker 13: why in twenty twenty six do we have a situation
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Speaker 13: where there's shops that don't have English. I mean, if
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Speaker 13: we're talking about we're in a moment in history now
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Speaker 13: where social cohesion is recognized as one of the biggest challenges. Well,
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Speaker 13: wouldn't one of the easiest ways to bring about better
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Speaker 13: cohesion is to have is to encourage one common language.
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Speaker 13: So by all means have another language on your shop sign,
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Speaker 13: but it should be a fundamental requirement that every shop
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Speaker 13: has English.
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Speaker 2: Science you filled out your sense, it's already been no,
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Speaker 2: you can do it home. I was thinking about not
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Speaker 2: doing it, and then I looked up the fine and
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Speaker 2: they know they will find you every single day. They
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Speaker 2: will knock on your door until you do it.
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Speaker 3: So I did it yesterday. All right. Well, have a
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Speaker 3: good night going home and doing that. Thanks good to
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Speaker 3: see well.
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Speaker 2: The Prime Minister has finally broken his silence on the
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Speaker 2: melon saga, denying his offensive and crude remarks have had
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Speaker 2: any impact on the Australia's relationship with Japan.
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Speaker 6: I reject the assertion in the question disb Australia and
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Speaker 6: Japan have never been closer or more strategically and my
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Speaker 6: government has taken our special Strategic partnership to new heights.
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Speaker 2: But he's still refusing to apologize, and his Minister for
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Speaker 2: Women is out there denying there's any issue.
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Speaker 14: The comments and the remarks from the Prime Minister have
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Speaker 14: been misinterpreted. The Prime Minister is very clear that he
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Speaker 14: did not mean for those comments to be interpreting the
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Speaker 14: way they have by some media outlets and by our
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Speaker 14: political opponents. I know this Prime Minister. I work with
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Speaker 14: him every day. I know how he relates to women.
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Speaker 14: He has enormous respect for women.
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Speaker 2: And Shadow Minister for Small Business, just enter NAPA, jimber
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Speaker 2: Price joins me. Now, just send a great to see
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Speaker 2: you again. Well, what did you think about the Minister
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Speaker 2: for Women defending Alban Easy on this?
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Speaker 15: Well, you just can't believe this government and you can't
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Speaker 15: believe the Minister for Women when she suggests that he
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Speaker 15: has great respect. I mean this is following the comments
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Speaker 15: that he made about Kylie Minogue as well, So the
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Speaker 15: fact that she can just brush those off is utterly disgraceful.
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Speaker 15: But this is this is labor in action. First they
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Speaker 15: lie and then they gaslight and they're trying to make
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Speaker 15: Australians think, really think, well, perhaps I have viewed this
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Speaker 15: in the wrong way.
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Speaker 3: But.
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Speaker 15: Australians, you're right, you know, to the everyday person, we
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Speaker 15: can see clearly, we can see through the nonsense, and
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Speaker 15: we can see that this behavior was utterly disgraceful from
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Speaker 15: a prime minister. And we of course I have heard
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Speaker 15: from the former Japanese ambassador to Australia, and he should,
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Speaker 15: he should apologize to the Prime minister because if this
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Speaker 15: was said by anyone else, by a coalition male and
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Speaker 15: Labor would be absolutely condemning them, jumping up and down,
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Speaker 15: seeking for them to resign. And this has brought great
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Speaker 15: shame on our country. I mean, that's the other element
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Speaker 15: of this, right, the cultural shame that this has caused.
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Speaker 15: Don't even consider that, you know, in Japanese culture to
22:20
Speaker 15: say something like this, I imagine, would be very shameful, very disgraceful.
22:26
Speaker 3: They don't even that.
22:27
Speaker 15: This government doesn't even consider that. I mean, Penny Wong
22:29
Speaker 15: stood in the Senate saying the same things, brushing it off.
22:32
Speaker 15: I'd like to know what he actually meant by those comments.
22:36
Speaker 15: Then if it's not the way we have all taken it,
22:39
Speaker 15: to mean two melons.
22:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
22:42
Speaker 2: I think it's pretty clear what he did mean, and
22:45
Speaker 2: you know it is it is very disrespectful at the
22:49
Speaker 2: very least to the Japanese Prime Minister Sinai Takeichi, but
22:53
Speaker 2: j cina I also think we should be seeing the correspondence.
22:57
Speaker 2: You know, we know there was a diplomatic cable sent
22:59
Speaker 2: from Japan to Australia. Well, what did Albanezi reply to that?
23:04
Speaker 2: Was there an apology contained in that? Because he had
23:07
Speaker 2: to have accounted for it somehow. I want to move
23:10
Speaker 2: on to his comments in question time today though, because
23:12
Speaker 2: he admitted that their tax policies were lowering the house prices,
23:18
Speaker 2: he spun this by saying it was a good thing.
23:20
Speaker 3: For first home buyers. So I'm interested in your view.
23:22
Speaker 2: Justin do you think house prices falling are good for
23:27
Speaker 2: young buyers?
23:29
Speaker 15: Well, you know this government has delivered the trifecta of
23:31
Speaker 15: failure in this particular area, and that they've delivered fewer homes,
23:36
Speaker 15: higher rent, and also smash confidence in the market. But
23:40
Speaker 15: this is the problem, right and you know you spoke
23:46
Speaker 15: about it earlier. The fact that there are those first
23:48
Speaker 15: home buyers now who gone into negative equity in terms
23:52
Speaker 15: of their homes. But the problem is Anthony Albanezi is
23:57
Speaker 15: using trying to do a magic trick, saying to the
23:58
Speaker 15: Australian people, oh, look here, this is this wonderful thing
24:01
Speaker 15: that we're doing. But as we've heard from the RBA,
24:06
Speaker 15: this isn't this isn't actually good because it means that
24:08
Speaker 15: inflation is high. And that's the thing that's going on
24:11
Speaker 15: down here that we're not looking at as the fact
24:13
Speaker 15: that inflation remains high as a result of this, which
24:17
Speaker 15: means everything else, the cost of living remains high, everything
24:22
Speaker 15: else is continuing to be pushed up and there's no
24:24
Speaker 15: relief from that. And as we've already as we've seen
24:27
Speaker 15: also that you know, there's been a cash hike, so
24:32
Speaker 15: it rates hike fifteen of them under this government, and
24:36
Speaker 15: there's no sign.
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Speaker 3: Of that lowering.
24:39
Speaker 15: I mean they're holding the cash rate at the moment,
24:41
Speaker 15: as we've seen, but nothing is changing under this particular government.
24:45
Speaker 15: And then things are getting worse and rightly so confidence
24:48
Speaker 15: in the market is also being smashed.
24:51
Speaker 3: I mean, this is.
24:51
Speaker 15: Why we've got our plan, the coalition has got our
24:55
Speaker 15: plan and we do want to bring down We want
24:59
Speaker 15: to make sure that home are affordable, but also that
25:01
Speaker 15: more are available. And the way you do that is
25:04
Speaker 15: by slashing red tape, and that's what we're going to do.
25:08
Speaker 15: We're going to slash the National Construction Code from two thousand,
25:12
Speaker 15: five hundred pages to two hundred and fifty, which brings
25:16
Speaker 15: down the cost of building a home by seventy thousand dollars.
25:20
Speaker 15: And we want to make sure Australians and young people
25:22
Speaker 15: get the opportunity to buy their homes with that they
25:25
Speaker 15: don't lose value in the home they've purchased, so they
25:30
Speaker 15: can continue to have that not just as a home,
25:33
Speaker 15: butt as an asset something for their future as well.
25:37
Speaker 3: Yeah.
25:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, many have criticized the government for pulling the ladder
25:40
Speaker 2: up for these young buyers. I'm interested in your view
25:44
Speaker 2: on this report today by the Australian Institute for Marine Science.
25:48
Speaker 2: It shows that the Great Barrier reef is thriving. It
25:52
Speaker 2: says that the reef has bounced back from the mass
25:54
Speaker 2: bleaching over the past year. They say chiral cover is
25:57
Speaker 2: at near record levels from Cape York to Underberg in Queensland.
26:01
Speaker 2: In fact, they say it's the highest it's been in
26:03
Speaker 2: thirty five years. I mean, just into this report, if
26:06
Speaker 2: it's true, seems to fly in the face of climate
26:08
Speaker 2: doom sayers who have been saying for a long time
26:11
Speaker 2: that the Great Bear reef is on the verge of death.
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Speaker 15: Oh, you know, surprise, surprise, anyone with any common sense
26:19
Speaker 15: in their mind will understand that, of course this is
26:22
Speaker 15: the case. And of course the doom says, you know,
26:25
Speaker 15: they it's not just labor that gas like people. It's
26:29
Speaker 15: also the green grifters that do the same. And we've
26:33
Speaker 15: experienced this over and over again. We've seen the weaponization
26:37
Speaker 15: of children to fight adult fights. They're politicizing these particular
26:42
Speaker 15: issues because they have their own agenda, and you know,
26:45
Speaker 15: it's with this, it's with the climate issue as well.
26:49
Speaker 15: We see it in places like the Northern Territory when
26:53
Speaker 15: these green grifters have their own agender and they use
26:56
Speaker 15: and abuse traditional earners for their causes. You know, it
27:01
Speaker 15: is about following the science. And as we can see,
27:04
Speaker 15: you know, the Great Barrier reef is making a recovery
27:08
Speaker 15: and that is wonderful. But science should always be questioned
27:14
Speaker 15: and tested over and over again, and so should these
27:19
Speaker 15: environmental activists with their underlying agendas.
27:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed just sent ingnmpijibber Price. Thank you so much
27:25
Speaker 2: for joining us live from canber on a busy sitting week.
27:29
Speaker 3: Appreciate your time.
27:30
Speaker 2: What's how The Australian Premier Peter Malanowskas today announced a
27:34
Speaker 2: three million dollar Royal commission into artificial intelligence without consulting
27:39
Speaker 2: his federal counterparts. Malanowskas said he had a duty to
27:42
Speaker 2: set up guard rails for AI.
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Speaker 16: I genuinely believe we are a really important fork in
27:50
Speaker 16: the road where we can choose to allow this industry
27:56
Speaker 16: to come to our country and evolve in a way
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Speaker 16: it is unregulated and unchecked and we will be subject
28:04
Speaker 16: to the determinations it makes rather than the other way around.
28:09
Speaker 16: Or we can choose to set the agenda.
28:14
Speaker 2: And with me now is Unswai Institute Chief Professor Toby Walsh, Toby,
28:20
Speaker 2: great to see you. Look is this I thought this
28:23
Speaker 2: was a really unusual move. I mean, the whole world
28:25
Speaker 2: is dealing with AI, questioning whether there are limitations the
28:30
Speaker 2: technology seems to have sped right past any attempt at guardrails,
28:34
Speaker 2: and then you have the premiere of you know, a
28:37
Speaker 2: state on the other side of the world trying to
28:39
Speaker 2: set up guard rails.
28:41
Speaker 8: What do you think, Well, the Premier is right, AI
28:44
Speaker 8: is going to be very transformative and we need to
28:46
Speaker 8: think about regulating it and so on. But it's going
28:50
Speaker 8: to happen to the whole of Australia, the whole of
28:51
Speaker 8: the world. So I'm not sure why South Australia itself
28:54
Speaker 8: needs to be following its own path.
28:58
Speaker 2: In terms of the sort of regulation that we should
29:01
Speaker 2: be looking at. And I remember, you know, a decade
29:03
Speaker 2: ago Elon Musk was concerned about the impact that AI
29:06
Speaker 2: could have on mankind. Now of course he's not expressing
29:11
Speaker 2: any concerns of the sort. So you know, are there
29:14
Speaker 2: protections in place or is everyone just not worrying about
29:17
Speaker 2: the risks.
29:19
Speaker 8: I don't think we're worrying enough about the risks, the
29:21
Speaker 8: risk it's going to have on people's employment, the risk
29:24
Speaker 8: is going to have on young people. Do we not
29:25
Speaker 8: learn the lessons from social media? There have been discussions
29:28
Speaker 8: about having things like a digital duty of care. I
29:31
Speaker 8: think we should do that and we should apply that
29:33
Speaker 8: to things like artificial intelligence. With age gated social media,
29:37
Speaker 8: maybe we should age gate AI companions and AI therapists
29:41
Speaker 8: that that young people are protected from the arms of
29:44
Speaker 8: these technologies.
29:46
Speaker 2: I mean Malanowskas spoke about how it would impact on
29:49
Speaker 2: children learning at school today, but I mean the changes
29:53
Speaker 2: are just far beyond that. Also enormous benefits too, right,
29:56
Speaker 2: I mean in in surgery and healthcare, in many important
30:00
Speaker 2: facets of life.
30:02
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean that's that's what I hope the Royal Commission,
30:05
Speaker 8: if if it's h is going to look at. It's
30:07
Speaker 8: going to look at the opportunities as well as the
30:09
Speaker 8: risks and the regulation that's needed. The newest drugs are
30:12
Speaker 8: being discovered by art of inteligence. Latest antibiotic discovered not
30:16
Speaker 8: by human doctors but by artificial intelligence. So the fantastic opportunity,
30:20
Speaker 8: and it's a question of you know, is Australia going
30:22
Speaker 8: to seize the benefits? Are we going to see are
30:25
Speaker 8: we seeing the government this some investments. We had the
30:27
Speaker 8: Prime Minister to make a landmark speech a couple of
30:30
Speaker 8: weeks ago, but we've yet to see much accel.
30:32
Speaker 2: All right, Toby, thank you for that quick kit. Appreciate
30:35
Speaker 2: your time.
30:37
Speaker 3: Coming up.
30:37
Speaker 2: Why Democrats are worried Communist candidates are taking over their
30:41
Speaker 2: party and they should be worried. Washington Correspondent John o'cursley
30:45
Speaker 2: would join me a little later. Plus, some major expose
30:48
Speaker 2: has aired the dirty laundry of tech billionaires Mike cannon
30:51
Speaker 2: Brooks and Scott Farquhar. The authors of this explosive.
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Speaker 3: Book will be here after the break Welcome back. Well.
31:03
Speaker 2: Claims about warring wives, hacking scare and allegations of a
31:07
Speaker 2: toxic work culture behind the scenes that at Lassian have
31:10
Speaker 2: all been exposed in an incredible new book.
31:13
Speaker 3: The book also.
31:14
Speaker 2: Examines the breakdown in the relationship between Mike cannon Brooks
31:17
Speaker 2: and his co founder Scott Farquhar. Now among the many
31:21
Speaker 2: explosive claims is that Mike accused Scott of behaving like
31:25
Speaker 2: a bully in their year of not speaking to each other.
31:28
Speaker 2: Now this is the book, tech Bros. We'll show it
31:31
Speaker 2: to you now, Tech Bros. It's been making front page news.
31:33
Speaker 2: And with me now to discuss are the author's finest
31:37
Speaker 2: business journalists in the country John Stenzold and Perry Williams.
31:40
Speaker 3: Great to see you both.
31:41
Speaker 2: Now this has been making the front page of the
31:44
Speaker 2: OS for so many days.
31:45
Speaker 3: Now, because you've just got incredible revelations.
31:48
Speaker 2: I want to start with the three acts of Lassie
31:50
Speaker 2: and John and how this all unraveled and went so
31:54
Speaker 2: wrong for the company.
31:55
Speaker 1: Well, firstly, it goes really right. You know, they make
31:57
Speaker 1: so much money in that first ten years or so.
32:00
Speaker 1: These guys are an amazing success story. They become billionaires
32:04
Speaker 1: out of university, right, it's incredible. Then they float on
32:08
Speaker 1: the NASDQ, so all this money starts coming in, like
32:10
Speaker 1: real money. They become billionaires. With money coming in so
32:14
Speaker 1: many forms, the cracks start to show. They's move in
32:18
Speaker 1: next door to each other. There's issues over the fence
32:20
Speaker 1: we'll probably go into. And then like the final act
32:23
Speaker 1: is really when things really start to fall apart, and
32:26
Speaker 1: it culminates in Scott Farquhay leaving the company in twenty
32:29
Speaker 1: twenty four after a whole bunch of issues behind the scenes,
32:31
Speaker 1: which we've written about.
32:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Perry the culture as well at the company.
32:38
Speaker 2: You know, it was known as one of the best
32:40
Speaker 2: places in the world really to work, and then you've
32:43
Speaker 2: exposed how this became a really toxic culture.
32:46
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's right, Sherry. Yeah, it was really quite industry leading.
32:52
Speaker 9: You know, they had this very sort of open you
32:55
Speaker 9: know company nobs Mantra. You know, you could discuss problems
33:01
Speaker 9: there were these very active slack messaging channels where people vented.
33:07
Speaker 9: The co founders, you know, fark Quare and Kennon Brooks
33:12
Speaker 9: were right behind it. And as the company got larger
33:18
Speaker 9: and sort of as the culture got sort of put
33:21
Speaker 9: under a little bit more pressure, things started to splinter
33:24
Speaker 9: a little. So, yeah, obviously we've got plenty of revelations
33:27
Speaker 9: about that in the book, and you know, it proved
33:30
Speaker 9: quite a handful for them both.
33:32
Speaker 3: I just quickly mentioned these are all allegations. Of course.
33:36
Speaker 3: Now you just mentioned the slack messages.
33:37
Speaker 2: Now, this was one of the explosive parts in your
33:40
Speaker 2: book that there were messages and it showed that there
33:45
Speaker 2: was this rift and bullying allegations made by Mike Cannon.
33:48
Speaker 3: Brooks's EA executive assistant against his wife, John. Can you
33:52
Speaker 3: tell us about that? Yeah, absolutely, This is.
33:54
Speaker 1: An incredible scenario where Mike ca puts in brilliant basically,
34:00
Speaker 1: Lodges are bullying application or bullying allegation against Mike's wife,
34:04
Speaker 1: and Mike doesn't tell his.
34:05
Speaker 17: Wife about it.
34:06
Speaker 1: So there's all this sort of interesting scenarios swirling underneath
34:11
Speaker 1: the business that they're running. It feels that the private
34:15
Speaker 1: office that they have is really chaotic. There's a lot
34:18
Speaker 1: going on behind the scenes, is all sorts of bullying
34:20
Speaker 1: allegations going everywhere, But Mike doesn't tell his wife about
34:22
Speaker 1: this one.
34:23
Speaker 6: Yeah.
34:23
Speaker 1: Now it's important to say that, like, you know, we
34:26
Speaker 1: put a whole bunch of questions to these people. Yeah,
34:29
Speaker 1: whole raft of questions about these secret reports that we
34:32
Speaker 1: found out about them. They actually are it actually ended
34:35
Speaker 1: up with another law firm looking into these allegations. We
34:38
Speaker 1: think it's because of the questions that we ask they
34:40
Speaker 1: never answered the questions to us. They're really sort of
34:43
Speaker 1: like almost like as a small ball strategy of not
34:46
Speaker 1: trying to deal with this except for a couple of
34:48
Speaker 1: allegations that we covered in the newspaper about some of
34:51
Speaker 1: these bullying and harassment allegations.
34:53
Speaker 3: That we uncovered.
34:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's incredible you wrote this book without speaking to them,
34:57
Speaker 2: but you've got cooperation from clearly so many people. You
34:59
Speaker 2: go internal company slack messages. Just fascinating, Perry.
35:05
Speaker 3: I also want to.
35:06
Speaker 2: Ask how distracted did Mike become with his climate change
35:10
Speaker 2: obsession and did that have an impact on the business.
35:14
Speaker 9: Yeah, look, I think it's sort of undeniable that you know,
35:18
Speaker 9: Mike you know, went off on a lot of escapades,
35:23
Speaker 9: Climate Crusader, a g L Energy, you know, one of
35:27
Speaker 9: the most famous ones some cable that that John and
35:31
Speaker 9: I have written about this is the big solar export
35:34
Speaker 9: project to Singapore. That's you know, still hasn't got off
35:37
Speaker 9: off the ground. He you know, had had to come
35:41
Speaker 9: out and start saying, yes, so I'm still focused on
35:44
Speaker 9: my day job, and you know it's I'm not getting distracted.
35:49
Speaker 9: I think the fact that he had to say that
35:52
Speaker 9: was a worrying sign. And from the sources we spoke to,
35:56
Speaker 9: Scott Farqua was certainly getting frustrated that that Mike's you know,
36:01
Speaker 9: time wasn't being focused solely on it lession.
36:04
Speaker 2: So this played into the relationship breakdown John, but it
36:08
Speaker 2: would have involved other elements as well.
36:10
Speaker 3: No doubt. Oh absolutely.
36:11
Speaker 1: So we've uncovered, as you said at the start this
36:13
Speaker 1: year of not talking and they one stage move in
36:17
Speaker 1: next to each other in Point Piper. They pay you
36:19
Speaker 1: to combine one hundred and seventy one million dollars to
36:21
Speaker 1: buy these two mansions together, and.
36:23
Speaker 3: They knock down the fence and the kids could play exactly.
36:25
Speaker 1: Today they sit vacant, which is a bit of a
36:27
Speaker 1: metaphor ride and it's sort of like there's, there's, there's,
36:30
Speaker 1: it's dilapidated. So there's a year where they don't talk.
36:34
Speaker 1: They literally have to fly to California to have a
36:36
Speaker 1: counseling session one on one with the councilor to sort
36:39
Speaker 1: of try and thrash out their differences and try to
36:41
Speaker 1: get back on track, so I speak. They get backtrack,
36:44
Speaker 1: on back track, on back on track for a while,
36:46
Speaker 1: but then the houses issue crops up. There's other issues
36:49
Speaker 1: that permelate along the way as well. COVID interferes with
36:52
Speaker 1: what they're doing. They all start to work from home,
36:54
Speaker 1: so they never see each other. So there's all these
36:55
Speaker 1: issues bubbling along and then yeah, in twenty twenty four,
36:58
Speaker 1: Scott leaves it's the it's the breakdown of one of
37:01
Speaker 1: the great business partnerships in Australian history. But it's also
37:04
Speaker 1: a quarter and tale of what happens when there's too
37:07
Speaker 1: much money and a lot of power and a lot
37:09
Speaker 1: of egos that sort of all swirl around to have
37:12
Speaker 1: these issues that we found.
37:13
Speaker 2: Exactly, I mean I think they made and correct me
37:15
Speaker 2: if I'm wrong, Perry, but around five billion each, I
37:18
Speaker 2: mean what did they spend all their money on?
37:20
Speaker 9: Look, it's hard to go past the houses to start with,
37:24
Speaker 9: you know my in particular, I think John will know
37:28
Speaker 9: the number four four hundred and fifty million dollars I
37:31
Speaker 9: think on housing around Sydney, you name it, some of
37:34
Speaker 9: the great trophy properties around Scott you know wasn't too
37:40
Speaker 9: far behind. I think probably close to three hundred million
37:43
Speaker 9: dollars spent on housing. Look, they have been quite savvy
37:48
Speaker 9: investors as well. They've had some misses, but they've had
37:51
Speaker 9: plenty of hits. One of the interesting things, you know
37:54
Speaker 9: John has covered is that Scott's one of the big
37:58
Speaker 9: biggest private airport vestas in Australia. You know, Mike's obviously
38:04
Speaker 9: the biggest shaholder in a gl energy. So yeah, you
38:08
Speaker 9: know they've they've splashed a lot of cash and there's
38:12
Speaker 9: plenty more that you know, they could still spend if
38:15
Speaker 9: they wanted to.
38:15
Speaker 2: So Scott Farquhar and Mike cannon Brooks, their partnership didn't
38:19
Speaker 2: make it.
38:19
Speaker 3: How does how did yours go? Writing the book?
38:21
Speaker 1: Oh look we're still to here talking next to each
38:23
Speaker 1: other show, so I think we've gone wrong, not just
38:25
Speaker 1: for the cameras, not just for the cameras like they are.
38:27
Speaker 1: I think we're still We're still, we're still brothers.
38:29
Speaker 2: Last week, congratulations in the book, and thanks for being here.
38:32
Speaker 3: Thanks on launched day, no.
38:33
Speaker 9: Less, Thanks all.
38:35
Speaker 2: Right after the break, how Trump evaded an Iranian assassination
38:38
Speaker 2: threat using a catering truck and a decoy, and former
38:42
Speaker 2: Treasury assistant secretary will explain what the RBA's inflation.
38:45
Speaker 3: Data really means.
38:47
Speaker 2: Shortly, Well, there's been incredible reporting by the Washington Post
38:54
Speaker 2: which is revealed that President Donald Trump snuck off Air
38:58
Speaker 2: Force one in a case truck last month in Turkey
39:02
Speaker 2: to secretly board another military flight.
39:05
Speaker 3: And this was in response to a threat from Iran.
39:08
Speaker 3: And you can see this on your screen.
39:10
Speaker 2: The decoe was so elaborate that even journalists and some
39:13
Speaker 2: White House staff believed that they were still on the
39:15
Speaker 2: same plane as the President when they left the NATO summit.
39:18
Speaker 2: And joining me how to discuss our Washington correspondent Jonathan Cursley,
39:21
Speaker 2: who happens to be in Sydney, the thrill of having
39:24
Speaker 2: you visit, Shari.
39:25
Speaker 18: Delightful to be here at News twenty four HQ and
39:27
Speaker 18: delightful to be sitting here with you.
39:29
Speaker 2: So this is quite incredible. But what was the threat
39:32
Speaker 2: from Iran? What do we know about it?
39:34
Speaker 18: Well, there've been a lot of clock and dagger moves
39:36
Speaker 18: around this. Originally because you remember the Katari gifted Air
39:39
Speaker 18: Force one. President Trump flew to Turkey, he'd announced he
39:42
Speaker 18: was taking back to a British base on the way home,
39:44
Speaker 18: and it raised questions immediately because it seemed an unusual move.
39:47
Speaker 18: Why would the president take an empty plane but also
39:50
Speaker 18: fly on old Air Force one to go to the
39:52
Speaker 18: military base. Now, we then knew within twenty four forty
39:55
Speaker 18: eight hours that this was all largely down to a
39:57
Speaker 18: security threat from Iran. There was some sort of threat
40:01
Speaker 18: against his life that meant they had to make the switch.
40:04
Speaker 18: But this extraordinary reporting in the Washington Post, now that
40:07
Speaker 18: is indicating that he actually was never on that plane
40:10
Speaker 18: to begin with. And you can see in this footage
40:12
Speaker 18: here that he's being shown now the level of work
40:15
Speaker 18: that went to get him on the plane in front
40:16
Speaker 18: of the television cameras, then out the back onto a
40:18
Speaker 18: catering truck, then onto another aircraft in behind it, and
40:22
Speaker 18: you can see in the footage a figure that looks
40:25
Speaker 18: like President Trump making his way up the stairs of
40:27
Speaker 18: that plane. The situation they've got now is obviously the
40:32
Speaker 18: Secrets of US was there to protect the life at
40:33
Speaker 18: the president and that's what they've done. The questions that'll
40:36
Speaker 18: be raised now is while the press were left unaware,
40:40
Speaker 18: the White House staff seemingly left unaware in this incredibly
40:44
Speaker 18: elaborate plot to make the president safe that entire time
40:48
Speaker 18: that packed old Air Force one plane was flying as
40:51
Speaker 18: a decoy, flew as a decoy the whole time to
40:54
Speaker 18: the United Kingdom landed second. So there will be some
40:57
Speaker 18: questions raised now, But ultimately, what's the job.
41:00
Speaker 3: Of the safety of those who were still on the
41:01
Speaker 3: deepot plane?
41:02
Speaker 18: Yeah, I think those are the questions that's going to
41:04
Speaker 18: be raised now, is you know, why.
41:06
Speaker 8: Weren't these people informed?
41:07
Speaker 18: Were their lives being put in d Ultimately, the job
41:10
Speaker 18: of the Secret Service is what to protect the President
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Speaker 18: of the United States of America, And we have seen
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Speaker 18: them coordinate that move so many times before. But the
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Speaker 18: Pennsylvania surround him after the assassination attempt, the shooting at
41:22
Speaker 18: the press club, the Parents Association dinner.
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Speaker 8: I was inside that.
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Speaker 18: That was extraordinary, But the elaborate moves you're seeing here
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Speaker 18: in this plot is just shows you the level of
41:30
Speaker 18: work they can put in to try and keep him safe.
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Speaker 18: And clearly they thought they needed to do this.
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Speaker 2: And we've heard that Israel tipped the US off about
41:38
Speaker 2: this potential around thread as well. All right, I want
41:40
Speaker 2: to get to these bombshell Anthony Fouger text messages. I
41:43
Speaker 2: spoke about this earlier in the show, where he raised
41:45
Speaker 2: concerns about potential risks associated with miscarriage from the COVID
41:51
Speaker 2: vaccine for pregnant women. Wasn't conclusive, they were just discussing it.
41:55
Speaker 2: But then Jonathan just a week later, he went up
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Speaker 2: publicly and a shod pregnant women that the COVID vaccines
42:02
Speaker 2: were very safe. So yet again a case where he
42:04
Speaker 2: was saying something different publicly to his private discussions.
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Speaker 10: Show.
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Speaker 18: You and I were talking about this last week when
42:10
Speaker 18: they got their hands on his phone, and this is
42:12
Speaker 18: this COVID era of phone, that they were able to
42:14
Speaker 18: get the data from this Republican led committee that there
42:17
Speaker 18: was always going to be something and now we are
42:20
Speaker 18: starting to see what they're looking for, and what they're
42:23
Speaker 18: looking for is exactly what has been reported here now
42:26
Speaker 18: contradictions from what he'd said at the time to what
42:29
Speaker 18: he was saying privately. Was there a difference in the
42:32
Speaker 18: way that he was operating, because it's very clear that
42:35
Speaker 18: they are trying to now build a strong case against
42:39
Speaker 18: him that he should be prosecuted. And President Trump made
42:42
Speaker 18: that argument largely in the Oval Office last week, when
42:44
Speaker 18: we heard him say within hours of the vote inside
42:49
Speaker 18: that Senate committee hearing to refer him off to the DOJ,
42:52
Speaker 18: that this is something the DOJ should be looking at.
42:54
Speaker 18: That they went and prosecuted others, they went and prosecuted
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Speaker 18: Trump Alla, so why shouldn't they look at somebody.
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Speaker 2: Like Anthony Foucher in a serious case like this. I
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Speaker 2: mean thirty four thousand text messages, they've only released like
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Speaker 2: five or six text messages.
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Speaker 3: There not even a tranch. It's just like a little trickle.
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Speaker 3: There are going to be revelation after revelation after revelation.
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Speaker 3: Can you imagine what's in his phone?
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Speaker 2: Well?
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Speaker 18: I think there's going to be. There will probably be
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Speaker 18: some very interesting insights coming forward. The interesting thing moving
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Speaker 18: forward now is how does Anthony Fauci respond to this,
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Speaker 18: somebody who is heralded as an international hero during the
43:32
Speaker 18: COVID response, is now having his entire integrity put to
43:36
Speaker 18: the sword to be questioned in this way. He hasn't
43:41
Speaker 18: experienced something like that in his entire professional career, and
43:44
Speaker 18: right now he's going through exactly what he's probably feared
43:49
Speaker 18: since November of twenty twenty four was going to.
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Speaker 2: Come or earlier when we started doing the reporting focusing
43:55
Speaker 2: on him.
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Speaker 3: Perhaps I want to have a look at the mid.
43:58
Speaker 2: Term primary campaigns in the US, how they're going, especially
44:01
Speaker 2: in Wisconsin and Minnesota. Yeah, I mean, this is getting
44:04
Speaker 2: really interesting with some of these candidates.
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Speaker 18: We're getting down of the nitty gritty now, we are
44:07
Speaker 18: getting ever and ever closer to November, and once again
44:10
Speaker 18: we are seeing, particularly when it comes to areas like
44:14
Speaker 18: Minnesota in particular, a Senate primary race for the Democrats
44:19
Speaker 18: that is going to look at what is happening with
44:21
Speaker 18: the split, what's happening with the Centrists against the populists
44:25
Speaker 18: against the progressives. Once again, we have candidates from either
44:29
Speaker 18: side standing up. We saw this last week with Michigan
44:32
Speaker 18: with Michigan, but we saw it in other parts of
44:34
Speaker 18: the country too. Now, there was obviously the win for
44:36
Speaker 18: abdul Elsaeid as the Progressive in Michigan. There were wins
44:40
Speaker 18: for Centrists in other parts of the country. It's not
44:42
Speaker 18: giving a clear picture yet on just how divided this
44:46
Speaker 18: party is, not just heading into November, but heading in
44:49
Speaker 18: towards twenty twenty eight as well. Then you've got somebody
44:52
Speaker 18: like Francesca Hole running for governor in Wisconsin, wanting to
44:57
Speaker 18: be in that race come November, and she's having her
45:01
Speaker 18: integrity question. She's been asked this week about comments she
45:05
Speaker 18: made about Thanksgiving and whether or not that should be
45:07
Speaker 18: a widely accepted public holiday America.
45:09
Speaker 8: Of course it is.
45:10
Speaker 18: Many people celebrate that time with family and have done
45:14
Speaker 18: for years. But look tomorrow it is crucial. There's a
45:17
Speaker 18: number of primaries going on across the state, across the country.
45:20
Speaker 18: But again, it's just another piece of the jigsaw puzzle
45:23
Speaker 18: as we get towards November, a race that will decide
45:26
Speaker 18: President Trump's final two years in office. How that could
45:28
Speaker 18: pan out with the power on the Hill and the
45:30
Speaker 18: power of the governors, but could also set in stone
45:34
Speaker 18: which way the Democrats are going to go for twenty
45:37
Speaker 18: twenty eight.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the future of the party.
45:38
Speaker 2: And look, let's hope it returns to the traditional Democrat
45:41
Speaker 2: base rather than there's communist terror sympathizer socialist way that
45:47
Speaker 2: many of the candidates we're seeing now seem to.
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Speaker 18: Generally when politics sitting in the center, right.
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Speaker 3: Jonathan, thank you so much.
45:55
Speaker 2: And if that's true anymore with the rise of these
45:56
Speaker 2: cares a conversation for another day. All right, coming out,
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Speaker 2: Toria Shelves. It's working from home laws and a long
46:02
Speaker 2: time Treasury insider asks if the RBA.
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Speaker 3: Has inflation under control, that's next. Let's turn to.
46:13
Speaker 2: The economy after the RBA decision to keep rates on
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Speaker 2: hold today, and let's bring in former Treasury Assistant Secretary
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Speaker 2: David Pearl. David, one of the main takeouts from today
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Speaker 2: is that inflation is still high.
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Speaker 3: Too high.
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Speaker 17: Good to be with your Sharry and your viewers. That's true.
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Speaker 17: Inflation has been too high in this country for more
46:36
Speaker 17: than half a decade now when you think about it,
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Speaker 17: and that is an indictment on our Reserve Bank and
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Speaker 17: its board.
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Speaker 2: I mean, clearly, the every board member is worried about inflation.
46:49
Speaker 2: Michelle Bullock said that She also hinted that rates may
46:52
Speaker 2: need to rise again.
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Speaker 3: Do you think this should happen?
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Speaker 17: Well, it was really interesting reading the Board statement today
47:01
Speaker 17: and watching Michelle's press conference, because the board's inflation strategy
47:08
Speaker 17: appears to be let's hope for the best in the
47:11
Speaker 17: face of acknowledged risks, and that doesn't inspire a lot
47:14
Speaker 17: of confidence. So what Michelle was saying was that given
47:18
Speaker 17: that the Board had raised the rate three times this year,
47:23
Speaker 17: which is just donedoing the damage they did last year
47:25
Speaker 17: by the way, that hopefully fingers crossed will be enough
47:30
Speaker 17: to bring aggregate demand back in the line with aggurate supply.
47:34
Speaker 17: But what we're seeing in the economy now doesn't inspire
47:37
Speaker 17: much confidence. We have households spending quite strongly despite what
47:42
Speaker 17: we've seen with all prices, and that's of course been
47:45
Speaker 17: cushioned by the excise cuts which have recently been removed.
47:50
Speaker 17: We've got an investment boom in AI data centers and
47:53
Speaker 17: other construction. We've got a very strong labor market. So
47:58
Speaker 17: it's not clear that the existing interest rate setting is
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Speaker 17: restrictive of enough, and I don't think Michelle or the
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Speaker 17: Board fully believe that either.
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Speaker 3: So you think rates should have gone up today, I.
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Speaker 17: Think it would have been wise, just because the three
48:18
Speaker 17: prior rate increases now, I understand that they will have
48:21
Speaker 17: a lagged effect, but I don't see much evidence that
48:24
Speaker 17: households and businesses are cutting spending and investment. And we
48:29
Speaker 17: also have businesses facing higher labor and other costs which
48:33
Speaker 17: are increasingly passing those on. So the way to think
48:36
Speaker 17: about it, Charry, is not some perfect interest rate decision.
48:40
Speaker 17: That's impossible. Central banks economists don't have a good idea
48:44
Speaker 17: of how economy is unfolded. You should ask yourself what
48:49
Speaker 17: is the worst error to make, And the worst error
48:51
Speaker 17: for Michelle Bullock and a board, given that they dropped
48:54
Speaker 17: the ballergregiously on inflation last year, would be to do
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Speaker 17: the same thing this year. So if they raise rates
49:01
Speaker 17: a little bit too high and that hurts the economy
49:04
Speaker 17: too much, they can unwind that. If they continue to
49:08
Speaker 17: hope for the best and show a bit of complacency,
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Speaker 17: we'll see inflation emerge again this year, and that would
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Speaker 17: kill the bank's credibility and it would hurt us all
49:19
Speaker 17: because interest rates would have to be much higher.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I mean, their first wrong call in recent times at
49:26
Speaker 2: least was when they are had a cut during the
49:29
Speaker 2: election campaign, and that was clearly a bit of a
49:31
Speaker 2: political decision. All right, David Pearl, thank you very much
49:34
Speaker 2: for your insights. As always, appreciate your time. I have
49:37
Speaker 2: to get to the Victorian working from home laws on
49:39
Speaker 2: tomorrow night's show. The premiere today did push them back.
49:43
Speaker 2: That's got to be at least one thing that's good
49:45
Speaker 2: for business and productivity.
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Speaker 3: I'll see you tomorrow at eight.
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Speaker 2: Jennifer Westercott on the show right now, Paul Murray