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#65 There's Always Next Season Arsenal... · Draft Offsides Podcast

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I think those hair transplants, they did something else to him.
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Is this left foot on the like Mount Rushmore like left feet?
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It was like really frustrating to watch.
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I was doing a lot of like hand lotions on my couch.
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It it's harder, definitely harder.
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I mean, no, I don't think, I don't think Ange is under
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pressure at all. I think that's just some
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Tottenham macro chambership that you're part of.
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What is this this Arsenal Netflix series?
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Will you always have to wait for next season?
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Hello and welcome to episode 65 of draft off sides.
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I'm with Tiko Enzo. My name is Keith and we had
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another another good week, guys. A lot of a lot of exciting
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games. Were you, were you satisfied by
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the games? That I I was left wanting just
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because I've, I saw this as a great opportunity for Chelsea to
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get some to leapfrog some people and that that United draw was
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just incredibly frustrating. There was no clean sheets, man.
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Right? No clean sheets.
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Am I right about that? Oh, no, There was one.
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There was one. Man, man, man.
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See. In forest Scotland too.
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In forest, yeah, but besides that there was no.
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No, it's just forests in West Ham.
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Newcastle not a great beat. And everything in Southampton.
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Everything. Oh, so there was clean sheets.
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Those species, yeah. As a messing things up, Yeah,
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idiot. Sure, yeah.
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I mean, I it was just that whole weekend was setting up perfectly
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for Chelsea to beat United and go to 3rd and they just, Chelsea
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just weren't good enough I guess United.
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You know, that's when you think you have, you could leave for
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like someone and you're playing United, that's when you're going
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to get a draw. Yeah, I mean, clearly Chelsea
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just did not look good enough. I actually thought United look
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had the better chance of that game, which was infuriating.
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But honestly, if the game fell flat.
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It did. But from both sides.
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It would have been amazing if United won just from the sense
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of like then hug leaving and they winning midweek 5 two and
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then beating Chelsea 10 would have been amazing.
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Beat Leicester 5 two, Who cares? Yeah, I used this would have we
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would have cared more here. You would have cared more right
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now. Obviously.
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Exactly. It's 5 two against friggin
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Leicester. And how how did that Tottenham
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Winfield for? Robinsville I've I've said it in
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my title, different seasons, Saints, Spurs.
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I'm pissed off one week and then we do something like this the
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next week. Now where we've scored four one
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that first half we look, we look good.
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It's better than the last game or last game against Palace.
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We look dismal this game. We look a little bit better, but
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still 41 on, I don't think, said the actual how that game really
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looked. 4-1 with Madison on the bench until midway through the
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second-half, too. And they took off Sun on the
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55th minute. Yeah, and they looked better for
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it. You know, it's like I thought it
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was actually a pretty good tactical move.
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And then the other really surprising thing was the
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Newcastle United beating Arsenal.
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Yeah, we we just think that Arsenal's just kind of having a
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little bit of mental collapse. I don't think it's mental, man.
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I think it's literally they've lost a couple of pieces.
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And like you, we know Arteta likes to play the same team.
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He doesn't really like to tinker too much and he's had to tinker
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the last couple weeks. So I, I think there's a little
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bit of fluidity that isn't in there right now, but I don't, I
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don't think they're out of it. I also think as Saka stars
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rising, rightfully so because he is the one who's scoring all the
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goals, you know, all the highlights.
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I think people forget how important all the guard is to
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this team and he's the one who puts the wheels in motion.
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So I think all the guard being gone hurts them a lot too.
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And obviously a lot of injuries. But you know, everyone has those
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injuries. It's just there's happens to be
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their entire defensive line. Just real quick to go back to
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the Tottenham game, Madison got benched.
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Yeah, I just mentioned that that's it's a water thing.
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Yeah. No, no, I mean, I feel like, I
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mean, he did score. He did come on and score, but it
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was just, it's very interesting. We we've talked about it.
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It seems like it's one of the Klusowski's team now.
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That is Madison's team. It was was the way it was last
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year, yeah. I think it's been coming though,
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because he's been getting taken off early.
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It's not, it's not like he's going to take it off in the
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75th. Aviat minute.
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He's getting taken off in the 60th.
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Half, I mean, it wasn't a couple of weeks ago where he got taken
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off and he scored like three goals.
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Yeah, shit. Yeah, all.
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Right. All right, let's get in the
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dozen days before we're we talk too much about games.
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Let's who we got to kick it off. It's Leaf Davis, 25.75 points
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versus projected 17.151 goal. Three he passes.
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He's averaging 10.4 points on the air, which for this team
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it's pretty impressive. Yeah, I think he was someone
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that we just, he was an unknown coming to the season.
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I didn't really love just picking up a defender from a
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team that was just promoted. But he's kind of proven that he
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is what, as advertised, you know, he is that guy.
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Yeah, it was him and who? There was another player on this
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team that was hot. They were Heidi Thor fantasy
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wise. But I'm right there with you.
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I wasn't willing to take a risk and I still, I still wouldn't
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trade for him, to be honest. You said he's, what is he
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averaging? 10 / 10 that's what's great for
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a defender. That's really great for a
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defender, so if you have him and you picked him up late, good for
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you. But when we look at them goals
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against, they've let in 21 goals, which is second most, and
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he's still averaging 10 points. So that means he's probably
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getting a lot of key passes balls in the box.
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So it's pretty good on this part.
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Yeah, it was like a counterbalance.
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The amount of interaction he's getting from attacking
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standpoint counterbalances the fact they're going to let in a
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lot of goals a little bit, you know?
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You know, you'd obviously still rather have like, Angie Robinson
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than White. You'd obviously rather have this
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kind of high, high profile guys, you know?
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I agree. Who's next on there?
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Ola Aina, was it Aina. Not sure how you pronounce his
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name. Again, 25.75 points projected
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11.11 He had a goal and a clean sheet and he had points in nine
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different categories. So he literally filled the stat
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sheet, which was pretty impressive.
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Again from Forest, the defender who would have dunk it.
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Well, kind of enforces in 3rd right now.
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Yes, they are. So, so you're talking about a,
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you're talking about a, a top 4 defense.
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Coming into the year, who would have done it?
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Who would? Have.
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Done it with a Kiwi banging in goals left right Sir.
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He's not, I don't think. He's not actually a Kiwi though,
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right? Yeah, he's from New Zealand.
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Yeah, Is he really? Chris Wood, very sure.
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I'm sorry, we're talking about. I know, my bad.
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No, no. So like Chris Wood?
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I'm sure you guys seen the meme, I think I sure did.
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Where that's the top five of BPL table and just says Arsenal the
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only one who doesn't have European.
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Yeah, it was nice. Very, very nice.
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Yeah. I know what's on though.
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He was on waivers 2 weeks ago. He's someone that we've kind of
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been talked, we've talked about just, I think we've talked about
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just any force offenders, if there's any force offenders left
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on your, on your waivers worth grabbing for sure.
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He's still only 50% owned, so yeah, he's up there.
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All right, next one. Next one we have Dominic
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Solanke, 32 points versus projected 14.98 first base for
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Tottenham. Coming to this game, he had two
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goals, so he matched the seats in total.
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Hopefully it's not because Madison wasn't playing because I
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need Madison's play, but Solanke had that performance that
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Tottenham have been waiting for. Yeah, you know, first goal was
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amazingly taken. Second goal was a nice little
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tap and just follow into the six yard box, finally waiting for
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it. He hasn't been terrible but he
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hasn't been what we wanted and expected.
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I think the expectation was a lot higher in a team where was
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very different to when he was at Bournemouth where he was getting
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fed left right hand side. This team's more building around
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the box, so him getting that brace should help with
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confidence and I still think he's he's up there, top 20, top
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30 player. Yeah, you, you hope that this is
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what kind of propels him on right to like continue to score
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goals. But I think he's, I think what
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we run and do with him is, is he going to be able to generate
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points? When he does the scoring.
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Yeah, so there's the concern, but ultimately like, hey, great,
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great for him. Two goals well taken.
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Yeah, not kick on honorable mention.
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There was this guy from Manchester United who was being
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drafted pretty high by the name of Bruno Fernandez. 25 points
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versus projected 10.95. Got his first goal of the year.
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He had the most key passes of the year.
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Obviously the goal came from a penalty kick, but this might
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trend him into the towards what he was projected coming to the
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year, so hopefully this is a sign of good things to come.
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Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think, I think a
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change of managers are sounding good things to come for
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beautiful it is who's the player.
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And I think he was being literally just like suppressed
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by 10. His yeah, and his average isn't
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terrible, but you know, 9.22 on a May United team, they're
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struggling in 14th right now isn't bad.
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I think we know the color of player he is.
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So yeah, he's got less than X. Maybe he can pull something out
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of the bag. Yeah, I mean, I like to be
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honest with you. I made a trader.
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I traded away Bruno Fernandez a few weeks ago and it was in the,
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it was in the heat of the 10 Hog stuff.
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And like when 10 Hog got socked, I started thinking, oh man,
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thought I'd known he was getting socked in two weeks.
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I probably would hold on to him. So I really, I really think
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that's going to awake a lot of these United players and I.
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Think that sucks like. Like gaming in Chelsea kind of
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showed that that a little bit. There's a little, they just felt
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like there's a little bit more spunk with everyone in that
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team. You know who did it in a week?
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Brashford. Or Brashford that.
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Trashford half a point versus projected 12.22.
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He had his chance to like give a big FU to then hog and he just
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didn't do much. Got the yellow so he was taking
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off early I'm assuming to not get the second yellow.
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But yeah, Rashford did not produce whatsoever.
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Can I be honest, I don't think it was 10 Hall with Rashford.
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It was 10 Hall with a bunch of these players and the and the
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whole saying, but individual performances.
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We saw where Ganacha could bring up individual points, Bruno
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Gadiro, individual Hoyland Bronner, but Rashford as a
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professional football player, his performances have been on
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the decline. So this doesn't surprise me.
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Yeah, I think that's a fair, fair take.
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I think it would have been nice to see him do better, though.
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And then you could. But like, yeah, I think we're
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starting to see that maybe there's more to it than just 10
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Hong, where I think like with Bruno, you can say like I think
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it was just 10 Hong. Yeah.
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I bet he just felt like a passenger this whole game.
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I I can't even really remember him touching up the ball.
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You want to see that, Rashford that you should take it to the
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fucking byline. Yeah, Rashford.
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That would cut in and take that long shot into that far corner.
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He's he's tried it and he's getting blocked, he's getting
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stopped and he's going backwards.
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So I'll be worried if you had if you're a Rashford.
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Do I know? I agree?
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Fully agree. Who's next?
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A familiar face and does this year.
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Ollie Watkins 1 1/2 points projected 14.34.
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He's been pretty disappointing and inconsistent year for Ollie
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Watkins. I have him in one of our
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leagues. Honestly, if he puts into a
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string of like 2-3 good games, I would probably like to trade
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him, but I thought especially after the EUR we hit that moment
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with that goal, I thought he would carry him into having
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another amazing year, but doesn't look like it so far.
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Would you trade Bruno Fernandez? I think I would take Bruno for
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Ollie Watkins now. Oh.
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My God, yes, absolutely. Yeah, yeah, Bruno's averaging
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less points than and Ollie Watkins, Ollie Watkins is
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quietly having, you're saying? I agree.
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I don't think he's having a great scene like he did last
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season, but he's got I think, I think, correct me if I'm wrong,
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Tico, I might be wrong. Six goals, 5 assists, which
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isn't a bad. Which isn't bad, no, you should
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have a lot more. Five goals and three assists.
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Five goals and three assists. So that's not that's not bad.
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That's not, that's not bad. I think I was.
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I think I saw something for all competitions.
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It's. Not it's not top, it's not top
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ten, it's not top 10. So he's projected where he was
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being drafted, which was 6-7. Yeah.
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Last year he was averaging 13.6. Coming into this year, you would
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think it would be higher. He's only averaging 10.2.
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That's Leif Davis numbers. And when the other thing about
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him is when you look at it negative half a point, 4.53 and
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a half 1.5. And at the same time, when you
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consider Duran is coming in and scoring goals, yeah, it's kind
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of uneasy. That's the.
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For me is the, is the Duran thing out of the equation?
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You know the connection, We're talking about 20-30 minutes at
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the end of the game that he's suddenly not getting for.
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He's generating points. That's like that's like almost a
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third of games that he's no longer playing that he was
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previously last year he was playing every minute of every
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game, but he was healthy because they didn't have another option.
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And now they have this guy's coming up the bench.
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It's like crushing it. You know what tech you know the
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the connection is. What?
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Leon Bailey not playing well. If Leon Bailey was playing well,
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he was feeding them left, right and center.
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It could be, but I mean, it's a factor, yeah, 7 factor.
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Comparing him to Bruno Fernandez, who only has one goal
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to assist, he's averaging 9.2 points per game.
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But I'm willing to bet he'll have more points per game at the
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end of the year than Watkins. You willing to bet that?
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Where's where's you need to say that bet?
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I'll take that bet. Yeah, I'll take that bet, I
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think. Yeah, I'll think.
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I want to. I want to go side with this one.
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Yeah, that's. Yeah, I think, I think it's a,
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it could be dead even. It's going to be close.
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OK, who's the next 1 then? Next one we have Kai Howard two
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points versus projective 10.62 didn't really do much in the
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game fantasy wise and. The I.
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Feel like the dagger was after the game they asked Arteta if
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what's Arsenal is missing is a striker like he saw I.
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I think it's so hard to be a striker in the Premier League
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because you have a few good games and everyone's like you're
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the best ever and then you don't score in a few weeks and was
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like you're absolute shit. That's exactly what I was about
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to say. Like that's what they loved him
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three weeks ago. Like it was the fucking Dodge
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bollocks. They fucking loved him three
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weeks ago and he's had a couple bad games, but you got a member
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also older. God, a couple injuries here and
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there. Like all of Arsenal talk about
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about a couple bad games. I mean well.
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They got hasn't played most of the year so he's been producing
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but he has three games in a row against Liverpool, Bournemouth,
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Newcastle where he hasn't scored no assists.
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Not even wrong look I got I have havoc so I dropped him this
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week. I completely understand because
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I saw he was coming up again. No, I didn't drop a turn.
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Bench comes to the bench, but. It's still a player rambling the
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Chinese. Laptop right now, yeah, but.
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He's going to easy to do when you're like 7 think points like
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what are you going to do I. Don't know.
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You have no fab. I should just give you fab.
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You want FAB for one of your players?
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You probably should. I probably should have requested
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some FAB and I should have, I should have counted with some
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FAB. Yep.
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In hindsight, I thought about that after I accepted.
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Yeah, OK. But that's a hidden here.
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However, 270 minutes, zero shots on target.
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He's still he's still one of the top scorers are in the over 112
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points. I like that Sat to go 207
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minutes without a shot on target, Yep, That's not good.
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That's not good. I mean, he was, he was, he was
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up near the top a few weeks ago as far as points, but now he's
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not. He's not even close.
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No, he's going to be in the world top 20, top thirty.
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Well. If ESAC is 31st average, it's
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going to be let's see here it's. Going to be hard and he's like
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even. He's yeah, overall forward, 11th
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overall 19th May play right now. Yeah, he's still.
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He's still up there because he was up there.
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Because he was up there, up there early, yeah.
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I mean, he's really cooled off. I mean, his last few games are
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we're talking Wow, 3 point 3.552, but before that he was on
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a run of a lot of games. All right, who's our who's our
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honorable mention dud? Somerville coming off of a 20.5
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game where he came in at halftime, he got his first start
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since September 21st and he was subbed up with -1 point.
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It's it's funny because I we had, you know, everyone jumped
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on picking him up and they've all got to be fucking pissed
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after this game. He Did you guys watch the
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highlights or watch this game? That, yeah.
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He just. Look at a rad.
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I mean, yeah. He didn't look like he didn't
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look like he was ready, like he's playing the Premiership
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war, didn't look like he's played with any of these players
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ever in his life. I think, I think little bit he's
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the next guy to get sacked. You think so?
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I think Ange is under fucking pressure too, I'll be honest.
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No big angels. Big.
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Angels just big city in the in the League Cup that.
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That doesn't count. But it counts.
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They beat it. Out, I don't think, I don't
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think Andrew is under pressure at all.
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I think that's just some Tottenham echo chambership that
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you're part of. What you saw that?
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Like echo chamber? Two points out of 4th place.
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Yeah, the two points out of 4th. It's we, we play really well and
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then we play really shit. It's this highline and he
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doesn't change his tactics. It's worrying.
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I think you're, I think you're overstressing it.
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Maybe. But yeah, Somerville, I that's
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just, that was a risky one for me.
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I dropped that fucker pull off. Yeah.
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And dropped him real quick. Yeah, he's one of those.
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I mean that whole, that whole SMT has been so disappointing.
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Besides Bowen. Besides Bowen, no.
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Kudos. Kudos doesn't play three games,
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so he's been, he's been terrible.
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He's only scored two goals. You traded kudos away, didn't
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you? I did, yeah.
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Funny. OK, let's so kind of get into
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like some of the matches. So kind of what the story, the
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biggest story here is that you're talking is drop points.
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That's kind of the main, yeah, the main message.
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So for the for. The top guys.
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Yeah, for Newcastle beating going 10.
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What is this this Arsenal Netflix series?
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Well, you always have to wait for next season.
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Quote from. Patrice Everett.
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Patrice Everett did that. I thought it was fucking great
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when I read it because it's true.
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Every, every. They always say, yeah, next
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season we're going to. We've gulsed it up.
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I don't think that I think the team is better than last season,
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it's just the injuries that they've come across now.
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What you the depth is really, you can actually see they
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actually don't have that much there, especially in the middle
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of the park. But they got they added depth.
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They did, but Sterling hasn't got any momentum on that left
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side. Marino came off that injury.
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Marino is probably the best looking one they have, but they
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still got Georginio. That's in their party, dived off
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the little bit in the middle. Declan Rice doesn't want to be a
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six, you know what I mean? To me, it's not death.
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To me, it's there's something else going on and I can't climb
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up my finger on it. But they're just not good
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enough. Like they're not like, and it's
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like, and it's like, it's like to be overly reliant on Odegard
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is not an excuse to me. You know what I mean?
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That's not it's not an excuse to be overly reliant on the player.
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You know, you know what it is. They go and let Declan Rice be a
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false line. They might just need a new voice
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because I don't know. That manager seems like you.
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I wouldn't you. He doesn't seem like a person
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you want to be around all the time.
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He just seems like a little. He's like kind of lost the
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dressing room a little bit. I don't think he's lost the
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dressing room. Maybe not lost.
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He hasn't lost the dressing room, but maybe he's not
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motivating them like he used he did a year ago.
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Good thing you think he's pissed him off because he got more
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pickpocketed at beginning season.
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I to me it looks like a micromanager.
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Yeah. And yeah, and when you're
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constantly like, act like you're the smartest person in the room
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and the results aren't holding up, eventually the players are
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kind of fed up with that. But you don't think.
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What is this Year 4? Or then five, fourth year, four
19:56
year, right, Yeah, there last year terrible.
19:59
Maybe why there? There was also The funny thing
20:01
where it says then how it got sacked and he's walking away
20:03
with more trophies than Arsenal and Ardetta.
20:09
I didn't think about that. I mean, you have to take into
20:12
account like the injuries to keep positions.
20:14
You have to take into account the fact that they got 3 red
20:16
cards in the first six games. They've actually got the most
20:19
records in the last two seasons. So, but those are things keep it
20:23
happens to every team. When you talk about injuries,
20:25
look at City. I know they lost the game, but
20:27
they have a lot of injuries. I think from the top teams, who
20:31
is Liverpool's the probably the only one who hasn't really had
20:33
that many injuries so far. But yeah.
20:37
And even got out, they went out, so it's hitting them as well.
20:40
So to me, injuries is not an excuse every it happens to every
20:42
single team. Year 5, He's in his fifth year.
20:45
You. Think that Odegar comes back and
20:47
they can they can turn the ship around.
20:50
I don't think so. You think this is that spiral
20:53
for the year? I mean, they have to play catch
20:56
up and also when you bring up Odegar, you still he still has
20:58
to be integrated. I know they've been on the same
21:00
team for a while, but. I don't think, I don't, I don't
21:04
think integrated is the integration parts could be that,
21:07
that that that odd. I think well.
21:09
Marino smarting? That's someone else in the
21:11
midfield. But you play.
21:12
Yeah, but then you take out party.
21:13
It's not that big of a deal, you know what I mean?
21:15
I think this season doesn't feel that much of A runaway season.
21:21
Like this isn't vintage Man C I'm sure you guys have seen it.
21:25
It doesn't look like vintage Man C at all.
21:28
They're winning one nil. They're losing 2 one, Yeah.
21:30
Let's let's just start talking about that right now.
21:32
I mean, they lost to Bournemouth this week.
21:34
They they've had a few games in a row that they look super
21:36
susceptible. Obviously last week they beat
21:37
Southampton without Southampton like, but before that they've
21:40
been letting in goals. That was Southampton was all
21:42
their their second clean shoot of the season.
21:45
That's not vintage Man C And then this is a Liverpool team
21:49
that's got a new manager who I think is running off those
21:53
fields. But how long will those will
21:54
that last? You know what I mean?
21:56
So I don't think Arsenal's completely out of it.
21:58
They're going what they 5th what they 5th right now. 5th Yeah,
22:01
yeah. Seven points behind Liverpool.
22:03
They're fine. It's not even January yet.
22:06
No, there's a lot of football to be played, there's a lot to be
22:09
played. But you I could also see Arsenal
22:11
having losses to Fulham or, you know, being held at every 10.
22:16
What if Chelsea beats Arsenal this coming weekend?
22:19
You think 10 points is too much? It's harder, definitely harder.
22:26
And they still got to play Man C, right?
22:30
Oh no, they played Man C, didn't they?
22:31
Yeah, I think they that's the game where they got all red and
22:35
they held a minute last minute drive.
22:37
Yeah, but how long did Garvey hold with the ball?
22:40
That's. Right.
22:42
I don't know. I can't, I can't think of who
22:44
they got left, but it sounds like they've already played a
22:46
bunch of teams. They've played Liverpool, play
22:47
Man C, they about play Chelsea. I think they've only got Aston
22:50
Villa left, right and so. Let me, I'll read up there a
22:55
couple of their next fixtures. So they played Chelsea, Forest,
22:59
West Ham. US is not the Forest is not easy
23:02
game. Forest is not a walk over game
23:03
right now. It's not.
23:04
West Ham, they should win. United.
23:08
You don't know what we don't know what United is going to
23:09
look. Like bomb half table.
23:11
Fulham, who drew with them I think both games last year.
23:15
They beat them and they drew against them, didn't they?
23:17
Or they beat them both times last year.
23:19
One of the reasons why. Yeah, I know they dropped points
23:21
against Fullm in both games and then they have Everton and
23:24
Crystal Palace, so it switched Bradford.
23:26
So they they do have the part of the schedule where they could
23:29
kind of go through and get a lot of points.
23:33
So they need to get Tony, they need to get some results.
23:36
That's it until they hit that. Yeah.
23:38
But if they lose to Chelsea this weekend, you're going to hear
23:42
the chance from all the Arsenal fans or tear out.
23:45
What did I say? Do you really feel?
23:47
When I say that, you think they'll start that if they lose
23:49
the Chelsea. Arsenal fans of of they, they
23:51
will, they'll be mad. I don't.
23:53
Understand that like some of these fan bases who don't win
23:56
shit and they're so entitled, they're like, oh, like demanding
23:59
of so much of their managers and the team and.
24:02
They live in like a delusional world.
24:03
They live. In a delusional world, but let's
24:05
be honest here, we just said he's been there five years.
24:07
Yeah. He has been there and they gave
24:09
him time and they were patient. I'll give Arsenal fans that.
24:11
They did have a moment where they were calling for his head,
24:14
but then they they got back on the horse.
24:15
This is five years in, they've come second, which is great.
24:20
Don't get wrong, fucking second in the Premier League.
24:21
It's a Man C team. It's actually really good.
24:24
But did they win a cup? So, oh wait, didn't they?
24:27
Didn't they win a cup? They won the first year, right?
24:30
They beat Chelsea in his first year.
24:32
Yeah. That's right, community Shields,
24:33
whatever the fuck that is. I hate the Community Shield,
24:36
it's a charity game. All right, then, Liverpool.
24:39
Liverpool had a bit of a scare against Brian Bright.
24:41
Went up one hour, but then Liverpool really clapped back
24:43
and scored two in the second-half.
24:45
Dude, fucking. Fucking Salah.
24:49
What a goal. What a fucking goal.
24:53
I think those hair transplants, they did something else to him
24:56
they like. That is something else to him
24:58
they like. Like put some antler spray on
24:59
his knees or something. I don't know.
25:00
He's tearing back the ears. It's his left foot on the like
25:03
the Mount Rushmore like left feet and messy.
25:06
I think he's, I think he's up there.
25:08
Carlos. Ricoba.
25:11
Ricoba was up there too, brother.
25:12
Fucking Recobo Ricoba back in the day of Inter Milan.
25:16
Adrian Adriano, he's up there. Too, I think, I think the thing
25:20
that this game really showed me was that I thought Brett was
25:22
better for more of the game, for a lot large chunks of the game.
25:25
But in this league, it's just you.
25:27
You let up a few moments and the teams are going to punish you.
25:31
Every time. Good teams, good players are
25:32
going to punish you. Let's just rotate in that top
25:35
three bro. Like Jack Pose coming in fucking
25:38
I. Think it's great, it keeps
25:39
everyone happy. I fuck yeah and it keeps
25:42
everyone floating around like Diaz was on the bench.
25:44
Yeah, and he comes on and he was working his ass off when he came
25:47
on because he knows I got to fight for my spot.
25:50
He was on the bench 3 of the last four games.
25:54
And that's crazy. That's crazy.
25:56
The, the conversation we had at the beginning of the season when
25:59
he was on a tear and I asked you, Tika, if you would trade
26:01
him for Fernandez, and you said now, yeah.
26:04
I said no. Yeah.
26:06
You would now. I mean then I was out, but the
26:09
the way he started was 11. .30. 121 three-point 31.
26:14
But that's what I'm saying, what happened for him to get pinched?
26:18
I don't think it's punishing, I think it's just rewarding
26:21
everyone else. I'm not saying it's punishing.
26:23
I don't Look, I'm going to say this.
26:25
You can train well. I know there's players out there
26:27
that train well, like Ben Davies.
26:29
The only reason he's on that Tomlin squid team is because he
26:31
must train fucking amazing. He must be Ronaldinho on the
26:34
training part, but he shouldn't be on the pitch.
26:37
If Lewis Diaz doesn't play well, train well, but then he gets on
26:39
that pitch and does what he does, he should be starting.
26:42
So my theory on this is if Salah's leaving next year, you
26:48
want other strikers to be happy with the amount of games they're
26:51
playing. So I think this is more of a
26:52
long term thing because coming into the year I'm pretty sure no
26:55
one had Liverpool being first in November, right?
26:58
Yeah, not right. Now, yeah, you got to, you got
27:02
to believe it though, for now. I mean, they're they're they're
27:05
the team to beat and they're they've kind of set the
27:06
standard. And I think the best thing about
27:08
them is that there's not that much pressure on them because
27:10
there's I don't think anyone expects him to be here.
27:12
So I think for them, they're kind of it's kind of like free
27:14
rolling they're. Just they they learn like
27:15
they're having fun, man. Yeah, exactly.
27:17
Well, I think like with with Arsenal, I think because they
27:19
haven't won, I think I could see that pressure kind of being a
27:22
factor for them. And City's obviously City, OK,
27:26
the other game in this set, so is United.
27:29
United won, Chelsea won. It was a it was kind of a bummer
27:34
game. It was like really frustrating
27:35
to watch. I was doing a lot of like hand
27:37
motions on my couch. You know, you turn it down in or
27:40
what? Yeah, pretty much.
27:42
I was straight in Italian just watching that game.
27:44
I was getting very frustrated with a bunch of different
27:46
players and a bunch of different moments.
27:48
And credit to United like they did, they did enough.
27:51
But I thought Chelsea looked pretty lackluster for the most
27:53
part. Did you get a headnut make from
27:56
Colt Palmer? Did I?
27:59
I'm not sure, I didn't see it. Was there a good one?
28:02
Yeah, yeah, filthy. And then when he turned Casamiro
28:05
on someone else's. Ugarte he just he he looked like
28:08
he passed about himself and his walk passed him, but.
28:10
He's that's not the first time he's done that this.
28:11
Season. No, no, no, that's he does.
28:12
That he's done that a couple of times where you're like what you
28:15
like. He's literally playing
28:17
playground. No, he.
28:17
Looks weird. He does certain things.
28:19
You're just like, what is that? And then you're.
28:20
That's my. Playground football.
28:21
Man's playground and I hope he never loses it.
28:24
He's gonna look good in white. He's not going to Real Madrid.
28:28
I don't care what you say, but I mean, we kind of what we knew
28:33
there were going to be a few goals in this game, but yeah.
28:37
Dude, you're top four. Yeah, Chelsea, Chelsea's top
28:41
four would. Did you, did any of us have him?
28:43
Did any of us have him? Top four?
28:45
No, I don't think any of us did I, I think.
28:48
Afterwards that Keith and I had taught them in top four.
28:51
Like after a week two we took him out and we put Chelsea in
28:53
there. You should have I, I'm the only
28:55
one that did have them top four. I had I, I had Chelsea.
28:58
I think I am top 6, but I didn't have them top four.
29:01
So they're playing really well. Honestly, they're playing they
29:04
they look like they're back. I, I'm not trying to jinx you
29:06
keep. I'm being honest.
29:07
I think Chelsea's back. I sent you guys the nothing I
29:11
was talking about honestly. I think for me it's the, it's
29:16
the consistency. Can they consistently be good?
29:22
You know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, they have.
29:24
Oh my. God, that is nasty because.
29:27
So nasty. Jesus.
29:30
He's just operating on a level like that's.
29:32
He seems like he's just like thinking, like he's just
29:35
thinking quicker than everyone else.
29:36
It seems the game is like so much slower than it then, yeah?
29:40
It's I just, I just love his attitude, bro.
29:42
I just love it. Like, yeah, I don't know, going
29:44
to go what? I'm going to go go to the
29:47
chippy. I'm going to go get me some fish
29:49
and chips. Fuck it doesn't give a shit I
29:52
love. It it feels like all these
29:54
programmers to do is to play football.
29:55
If you ask him a question about anything else, it's like, what
29:57
are you doing? Like, no idea.
29:59
Yeah. He.
30:00
Goes home and plays Fortnite. Wasn't he?
30:03
No, he might. I don't fucking know.
30:04
There was Weberry did a campaign with him where they like had him
30:07
like him and Eze were in a bunch like like high in Burberry
30:09
stuff. He looks so weird.
30:10
He's just like the type of guy that should be like.
30:13
He's like, why stripes on my shirt?
30:15
No, he's he's literally saying, all right, you're gonna pay me,
30:18
OK, I don't really do this, but my face doesn't change, all
30:23
right? Moving on to South Hampton
30:25
finally got a win. They beat Everton 10 man.
30:28
Everton had a gold disk allowed at the end that was like an inch
30:30
that that hurt. You know it was Beto again, so
30:33
you feel bad for the guy. It was, it was, it was so close.
30:37
You know what, There hasn't been too much vast shit this season,
30:39
which I like. So they've been pretty on point.
30:43
Yeah, I think it's been, it's been better.
30:45
It's been better. I think the the arguments, I
30:47
think Arsenal fans would beg to differ because they felt really
30:50
hard done by some of those decisions.
30:51
But of course they did. Other than that, it's been it's
30:53
been better. Ipswich so close but a late,
30:56
late AU equalizer had Lester like draw 11 with them.
31:01
But we're talking about the survival players on Ipswich from
31:04
fantasy perspective. Vardy's still in there and they
31:07
go, Are you? Yeah, let's see.
31:09
Fatalu. Fatalu had a pretty good high
31:11
score a week. I think he scored like 15 plus.
31:15
Goes points. Yeah, solid, very solid.
31:19
All right, So we kind of talked about Madison, are we like stars
31:23
on the bench are getting benched early.
31:25
So you're saying questionable decisions by Ange Bencing
31:29
Madison taking Sun off at the 55th minute, but they but he.
31:32
Wins for one. So it's just fun.
31:34
So is it questionable or is it or is he a genius?
31:37
I don't fucking know yet. Or is he?
31:38
Lucky that was the case with Sun last year too.
31:40
He was being subbed up from like 60-70 minutes.
31:43
Mm hmm. So I know for some that's
31:45
nothing new. It's Madison, the one that's
31:46
kind of. But did you see seller was very
31:48
upset about? It he was pissed, he was.
31:50
Very, very upset about it. That, to me, is what's the
31:53
interesting part of. It Yeah, that's that.
31:54
You don't want your players pissed off.
31:57
The captain. Yeah, you know, that's both.
32:00
That's two your captains. You only left one of them.
32:01
One. You have 3 captains.
32:05
Yeah. I don't know.
32:06
I don't know. I mean, it didn't help that
32:08
Richarlson got the assist and then pulled a handy right off
32:10
the. Two right afterwards, man, I
32:13
thought, I hope we, I was hoping he was doing that celebration.
32:15
You know what I was saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
32:17
He pulled it. He pulled it while making the
32:19
pass for the assessment. Which is just wild, yeah.
32:22
Fucking idiot. OK, the other two other
32:23
noteworthy thing is city. So KDB wasn't on U sub on the
32:26
bench. Savio was on U sub on the bench.
32:28
Doku came on and made a pretty good impact to talk to those two
32:32
players. Savio, he had a really bad like
32:34
bone bruise or something, some sort of like impact bruise, but
32:37
it wasn't something that is going to be long term, so that's
32:40
good. KDB was coming off that injury.
32:43
It was interesting that he was on the bench and didn't come on.
32:46
Do you think if they're waiting two or three, oh, he comes on,
32:49
that's just because maybe they don't want him to strain
32:51
himself. I think so.
32:53
Like I have a feeling he comes on like who they play this
32:56
coming week, they play Brighton. If they're out like 2-3 one at
33:01
Brighton, I could see him coming on and then you know.
33:04
To me, the more question than one is Doku.
33:07
He's so dynamic and the team looks so much more explosive
33:10
when he's playing on the left side.
33:12
It just I don't understand. I know he was injured but he's
33:14
being bit. He's been benched a lot this
33:16
year, which I thought was surprising because last year he
33:19
came mid year to City and he was starting from like the first
33:22
game and now he's. It.
33:25
Seems like Guardiola favors Savio to Doku because they do
33:30
similar things. But Stavi is on the right side,
33:33
so. He's let on both.
33:35
He's put on both. So has Doku, but to me this
33:38
didn't wasn't pep the manager when they had sane and who was
33:43
on the other side that like bars or coma like yeah, yeah, they
33:46
had so it's similar like you one going up speed stairs and like
33:50
crossing the boat putting in for Holland.
33:51
It's kind of ideal situation. No, I agree.
33:55
I, I don't, I I agree with you. I don't.
33:56
I don't understand why he doesn't start Doku and Savio
34:00
because they're both so dynamic on that.
34:03
And he was worth control. I don't think he gets as much
34:05
control with those two players where it's like if you have a
34:06
partner or Silva Gundelin, it's like they they're guys, they're
34:10
going to knock the ball around a little more like the Doku Savio.
34:12
He probably doesn't want too many 1V1 take on artists you
34:16
know. It's so fun to watch.
34:18
God forbid a player is creative and they get to like fucking
34:21
dribble and not make people. Yeah, yeah, OK.
34:24
Robertson was an unused sub reflection of being spanked by
34:27
soccer the week before. Question mark.
34:30
Diaz comes on 6/6 minutes. First Loba slide but Spurs.
34:33
No, you, you moved that oh, you know you just moved it just came
34:38
on to six, six minute for sober slide.
34:40
First Loba slide, I don't know how to slide.
34:42
Tico, are you, how concerned are you?
34:44
I feel like it's been a bad, it's been getting worse with
34:47
him. Yes, but to be honest, I think
34:52
this was kind of wishful thinking that this year he would
34:54
be much more productive because last year when you look at it,
34:57
he got off to a very good start and then he kind of trailed off.
35:01
It's at a point where he's probably not startable.
35:04
He's averaging what, 5.8 points per game?
35:08
Only one assist, You know, last year he averaged 8.1.
35:11
So he's not really training in the right direction.
35:14
And this year he was playing started playing more up top, so
35:17
I thought he would get more assists, more key passes, more
35:20
shots, but that has not been the case.
35:22
Yeah, I think, I don't even think he's one to really hold on
35:27
to on a team like Lilville. Do you think, do you think you'd
35:31
hold on to him and maybe see if the fire burns and.
35:34
I think you'd probably hold on to him.
35:36
I I mean, it's just, it's a gross, but I feel like it's
35:39
really tough to not. It is Liverpool and he's a name,
35:42
so it's also someone you could attach to on that.
35:44
And he's playing, yeah, he's playing a lot of games.
35:50
Yeah. That's really, that's just very
35:51
unfortunate. And I I tried to make you trade
35:53
offers for him early in the year, too, because in my mind, I
35:55
was like, oh, he'll come back and start playing well.
35:57
But now you start, more games come through and you're just
35:59
like, yeah, it's just not happening.
36:02
Nope. Does that, but does that make
36:04
you want to pick up Tico or I'm not sure if he's, he's probably
36:07
not available, but picking up Chris Jones, you think Jones is
36:11
the answer there? I tried picking him up but.
36:14
He. Thomas picked him up but I was
36:17
late on that. Honestly driving bridges looked
36:19
amazing for Liverpool but it's just not fantasy wise doesn't
36:23
bring value. But when I look at it where
36:26
Sobel's lies ranked 196 and he's averaging 5.78 points but he's
36:31
still rostered at 96% in the league.
36:34
When we look at like Ramsey's averaging more points per game
36:38
and he's only rostered at 41. Matata 6.1.
36:43
So he's really the drop of a player.
36:45
It's just the main value of the team.
36:46
He plays for that. Yeah, yeah.
36:49
It almost feels like you should find a tray that's pretty like
36:52
for like and throw slowest light in just so it feels overwhelming
36:55
for someone to take it and just get them off your hands because
36:58
you just don't want them. You don't.
37:00
You want them off your hands. Keith, expect that tray coming
37:03
your way from Tico or or. If you can't do that Tico, maybe
37:06
you do bench him just or maybe you do drop them fully, just
37:09
knowing that someone's going to pick them up and that someone's
37:12
just going to have them. Waste.
37:13
Space on the roster. But you know what's going to
37:15
happen, right? The second I've been to him or
37:17
dropping is going to put off like 20 points.
37:19
Yep, this is how it goes. Yep.
37:23
Robertson concerns there. I don't know why Doggy
37:28
Rossumikas had a great game. That's the worrying thing for
37:32
Robertson is, is is it just going to be rotation for like,
37:35
you know what, they're in Europe, right?
37:36
They are in Europe so is it going to be like a rotation
37:40
thing with the cups and everything?
37:41
Does Arnie slot do that? I don't know, but Shamika seems
37:44
to be doing a fine job on that left hand side when he's not
37:47
playing so. Yeah, that that doesn't feel
37:50
like anyone's safe maybe aside from Salah in that team.
37:54
Yeah, Yeah. Everyone's been getting sad Then
37:56
you know, you saw we saw McAllister not sorry.
37:59
You saw Slob aside. Sorry.
38:01
So. Salon Van Dyke.
38:02
Salah, Van Dyke, maybe Trent, but even Trent Even seen him get
38:05
subbed off in the 60th a few times and.
38:08
Didn't he also get benched recently?
38:09
Yep. Maybe for, I don't know, maybe a
38:12
Cup game. Yeah, maybe a cup game.
38:14
But yeah, so concerning Antonio off the bench, Somerville didn't
38:20
take the opportunity. We talked about that Brathwaite
38:23
off the bench, man, he was so good last year.
38:28
Is that kind of why we're at the discussion point?
38:29
Yeah, I don't know if if do you drop King because he's probably
38:33
the one out of all of them that isn't playing as good, but do
38:38
you take out this team that's playing well defensively?
38:42
They're not perfect, but they play well with Jan Mikhilenko,
38:46
Keane and Talkowski. I think it's enough of a talent
38:49
to displace Keane eventually if he's fully fed.
38:52
You think? Yeah, I think so.
38:54
That's one to hold onto. You're talking united and nod
38:58
off the bench. You think it's just a matter of
39:00
time before he's started? I think he should be playing
39:02
man. Over.
39:03
Over. Rashford over.
39:05
Rashford or over Garnacha, I don't care which one you play,
39:07
he should be playing over both of them.
39:09
When when the year started, he was a he was a starter on the
39:13
right side. He was playing with Rashford on
39:15
the left. Garnacha was coming off the
39:17
bench. And that's when Garnacha was at
39:18
his best, scoring, assisting, producing fantasy points.
39:21
But then all of a sudden Ahmad got benched.
39:24
I use up and all that stuff for and to favorite guard Nacho, who
39:29
I feel like I'm kind of over Garnacho at this point.
39:31
He just. Oh my God you called him go
39:33
Nacho like 2 weeks ago? Well, I mean the guy has AI
39:38
think he always wants to go for the flare and he always wants to
39:40
get like score goal Oz on the bank and wants to be the hero.
39:44
Change the angle, Enzo. Yeah, we see too much Dick
39:47
there, which is too much cry. Well, well.
39:49
Well, bro. That's just the sweats.
39:52
We don't know. It's, it's just sweats up for
39:55
way too much interpretation there too.
39:57
But there's too much, there's too much mystery in that angle
40:00
for us. What?
40:02
Are we talking about? How you stuff your pants.
40:05
So we're talking about car Nacho.
40:07
Yeah, and I think he had a couple chances to where he could
40:09
have had a better attempt, but he just tries to dribble and be
40:11
the hero. And I don't like players who try
40:13
to play hero ball. I understand you're dribbling
40:15
all that stuff, but Keith, I'm sure you saw when Cal Samir got
40:18
like mad at him. Oh yeah.
40:20
The the guy made a run and he just dribbled backwards and then
40:23
we we got counter attack Cal Samir to take the yellow so.
40:26
OK. Yeah, sorry.
40:27
Keep going. Sorry.
40:29
Yeah, so to me, guard Nacho, it's either immaturity or
40:32
someone was not able to manage him, make him into the player he
40:35
could be because there's potential there.
40:37
Like next week against who are they playing?
40:39
He might score a bicycle kick and I, it might call him God
40:40
Nacho again. But it's just this, it's just
40:44
discipline and the consistency of it.
40:46
To me, if players who are inconsistent, the floor is too
40:49
low for Garnacho, yeah. OK, would you rather stop
40:52
Rashford over Garnacho? Now those two, who would you
40:55
stop? Honestly, it's not to me, it's
40:59
the. Old shit for new shit, old shit
41:03
for new shit. So honestly, Garnacho I feel is
41:07
going to give you more because he he's going to push.
41:09
Well, there's more potential, right?
41:11
There's more potential there, I think.
41:12
Rashford I I said it again, I'm a say again, he needs to fucking
41:16
leave United. I think he's, yeah, he's getting
41:18
pretty close to washed in my mind.
41:20
Like he needs to revamp his career and he's not going to
41:23
revamp it United. The reefer.
41:25
He's not going to do it in England.
41:26
Man, I think yeah, I could. I see Inter Milan in his future.
41:30
Yeah, I I think he'd do well in Italy.
41:33
Question about Garnacho, do you guys start when you look at him,
41:36
do you think that he just, I feel like he spends a lot of
41:38
time looking at himself in the mirror.
41:40
He just sounds like that Cristiano Ronaldo, like pretty
41:44
boy thing going on where you just like like, I feel like I
41:47
wouldn't be shocked to find out that he's had some like lip lip
41:50
pumping going on and some like some, some work done.
41:53
That May that May and I teams had some work done, you know,
41:56
Casamero noise nose job. Yeah, see.
42:00
So maybe maybe use maybe Castamiro like Garnachi use
42:03
Casamiro's guy. You know, he's got some Botox
42:05
going on. I'm also frustrated in it, Well,
42:07
not frustrated at that. To me, like a footballer needs
42:09
to have like big thighs. This guy is so skinny.
42:13
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, bro.
42:15
Pierre Crouch, one of the best footballers in the league.
42:17
For he was in Greek. Even Cole Palmer.
42:20
Even Cole Palmer. But the thing that frustrates me
42:21
with Garnacho, he consistently listening to shorts of like
42:24
Cristiano Ronaldo. It's got a little chicken legs.
42:27
Yeah. And it's like, it's like the
42:29
soccer ships like back, Yeah. Morris did the same thing.
42:31
Bro. Morris has those skinny ass
42:33
chicken legs. All.
42:35
Right, let's get out. We're getting just a weird,
42:37
weird subject matter. John Felix on U sub and Cuckoo
42:41
was also an on U sub in this game.
42:43
No no, but no one cares about in cuckoo.
42:45
But people care about John Felix.
42:47
I think so. Look at the trade that happened.
42:52
We week in week out. Will it ever start?
42:54
Not right now. I just I think Morask is I think
42:58
I'm not really I think he needs to be rotating more to be honest
43:00
with you. I think he's not rotating enough
43:02
and I think like whether that's right or wrong, your top.
43:06
Four Keef your top 4. I think what it's been working
43:10
out for Chelsea is for like FA Cups and all the other trophies,
43:13
they're playing a single different team, yeah, whole
43:16
different team. Which?
43:17
Total B squad. Which is a huge advantage
43:19
because you know other players are playing their starters which
43:22
gives them gets them tired for the league.
43:24
But it kind of raises the question, if Chelsea does go
43:27
advance in like semi final quarterfinal FA Cup, is he still
43:30
going to use the backups or is he going to be bringing the big
43:32
boys for the important games? I think it's all going to depend
43:34
on where they are in the league. If they're sitting in 3rd or
43:38
somehow someway they end up in second when they get to a
43:42
quarterfinal semi final, I think he'll play some of his stars
43:45
depending on who they're playing in the league that week.
43:47
But if he's sitting in fourth or they somehow drop down to 5th
43:50
and they got a quarterfinal? Champions League football is
43:53
bigger for Chelsea in my opinion.
43:55
They need to get back in that competition.
43:59
Yeah, I think it's valid. I mean, I'm dropping Felix, I'm
44:02
dropping in Cuckoo. I'm keeping an eye on it and
44:04
maybe like if they start a game, I might grab them.
44:07
But. Keith, you should, you should
44:09
try to trade. Trade them off.
44:11
You've been trading like you. You don't like 7 trades this
44:14
season? Already, Yeah, I'm a, I'm a
44:16
trade. I'm a trade guy.
44:17
I I don't have them. I'm just, I'm just dropping
44:19
them. I'm saying if I did have them,
44:20
I'd drop them. I don't have them because I've
44:22
already dropped them. OK, some key ghost points for
44:29
Tawu 17.25. That is interesting.
44:32
I love this one. Trent Alexander Arnold 16.5
44:35
Great, great. About a lot that came from, you
44:37
know, I actually looked at this up, you know, where eight of his
44:39
points came from. Key pauses.
44:43
No. Tackles 1.
44:45
Yeah. No.
44:48
Let me double check that because they came from somewhere weird.
44:51
So he's, he's been, he's actually.
44:54
Defending tackles 1 yes tackles 1 so 8 That was exactly it.
44:58
Wow. So it's just it's it's he's
45:00
scoring points in a different way than previously, whereas all
45:02
key passes and everything the pass Sabaka 16 that's great.
45:08
I mean oh, we lost things out all right, Thank God.
45:12
Now we can back get back to the real podcast.
45:14
No, there he is. Oh, OK, you back?
45:18
Yes. What happened?
45:19
I'm back. I can hear.
45:22
You talking Simakas? Simakas 16 points.
45:27
I think he's might be a pretty important pick up if available.
45:34
Yeah, if you get a defender in that Liverpool team, even even
45:38
if he's only splitting time, I think he's still worth having on
45:40
your team. Yeah, I agree.
45:43
Yunez 14.5 he's he's quietly having a good few weeks.
45:49
You guys noticed? He's been playing a lot more
45:51
than he did last season already, like he was picked up by Pep
45:56
from Wolves for a reason and he can do the job.
46:00
We can play all across that front 3.
46:02
He didn't wait. It's it's so it's showing he had
46:04
7 points and so I think he might have messed up.
46:07
No. Against Brighton, yeah, it's
46:10
showing 7 points. Oh, I messed up I.
46:14
Don't know, but I wanted to talk to about him.
46:16
Yeah. Anyways, like I think he's
46:17
quietly doing a little bit better and I think if he starts
46:20
to get a few goals, it's going to be good for Fonda, for
46:25
Chelsea. I think that's really his first
46:30
decent scoring game, though. I'm not.
46:31
I'm not putting too much into that.
46:33
I don't think Chelsea's good enough defensively to care that
46:35
much. I don't know who these other
46:37
two. I don't know who this other
46:39
person is. He's.
46:42
From Brian he took he he plays for Brian play.
46:45
He took a balibus position. Interesting that's what they
46:50
keep an eye on. And Alex Obi Wan Iwobi.
46:54
You know. Obi Wan guy, this is your.
46:57
Talent. I had him, yeah.
46:58
I added him in there just for for Derek because he was crying
47:01
about how he got his points and they're all ghost points, so
47:05
11.25. He's always he's physically a
47:08
better player than he always seems.
47:10
He's one of those like good fantasy assets.
47:12
OK, All right, League table looks off.
47:15
We talked about that for his top three Wolves at bottom, man.
47:18
Enzo, at your point you you mentioned it.
47:19
I've been I watched that Wolves get really closely.
47:21
They do look like a good team. They look like a good team.
47:24
I would bet. I think they're gonna be fine.
47:27
End of the season, as long as they don't panic, they're gonna
47:28
be totally fine. I think they're gonna get their
47:31
first week this coming weekend. They get who they play.
47:34
Southampton. Oh yeah, I don't know.
47:37
I think it's smashing. All right.
47:40
I'm gonna That's gonna be my game to bet on.
47:43
Calling it right now. No.
47:44
You can't call it bro. I think Tiko actually has first
47:47
bet. You get done.
47:48
That's me bet. Yeah, we talked about the
47:51
Tremaine, Villa, Arsenal having a little bit of hiccups right
47:54
now, but yeah, OK, Should we get the waivers?
47:59
Yes, go to waivers. I think the first name on here
48:02
has to be Constantine Samakis. I think that if he's available,
48:05
we just talked about a second ago, but like, where's he?
48:08
Like if he's available, he's available in 39% of leagues
48:12
right now. He's taken in 39% of leagues.
48:15
He's just to have a Liverpool defender is just worth it every
48:18
day of the week, every week. Then another one here I really
48:21
like is that Milos Tricus from Bournemouth.
48:25
He said three of his last three games have all been pretty
48:27
decent, like double digit scores.
48:30
Obviously the last one he had two assists, so it was like
48:32
really big and that was a huge win against City statement win.
48:35
But I think he's a really good player that we were really
48:37
excited about last year and he kind of underperformed last
48:39
year, but he's been in the league for a full season now.
48:42
I think he's kind of starting to find his feet and I think if you
48:46
don't get him now, you might be not be able to get him again.
48:49
Another name question mark around is Harry Wilson came on
48:53
for Fulham, got two goals. He did, yeah.
48:55
See what the flyer or do we think it's maybe 2 not enough
48:58
right now? Give me another game because I
49:01
think like, I think Fulham ball, all those players are beginning
49:03
this season, all those Arsenal players and it didn't quite work
49:07
out and now they're going back to the old which is Harry Wilson
49:10
and it looks like it might be working, but you got to see
49:12
another game or so. What about Jacob Ramsey?
49:16
Nothing spectacular, but Colin, I think you have like 8 1/2
49:20
points last week. Yeah, I think Rogers really the
49:23
main, the main one in that team that's the the, the, the no name
49:27
or the star. Scored again, yeah.
49:28
He scored again, yeah. Do you do you think that McGann,
49:33
Ramsey, Rogers is going to be that midfield three behind
49:38
Watkins? Well, no Tillerman's.
49:42
Is right. He's behind that.
49:43
He's like. Yeah, yeah.
49:44
Yeah. For the most part, it looks
49:46
like, yeah, that's what they're playing.
49:47
Rogers is the more creative one who likes to break the line.
49:50
He's like that. You know how Delhi Ali was when
49:52
he's in his prime, where he used to breakthrough.
49:54
And then Ramsey's more hug in the wing.
49:56
So yeah, it seems to be working. But it's more, it's more, it's
49:59
more, it's more Rogers, even him again, He's been quiet.
50:02
I know he just came back from injury, but he's been quiet.
50:04
I think if if Rogers, if Rogers is starting games for this Aston
50:10
Villa team, he needs to be on benches at least.
50:12
You know. So Cliver, it's good.
50:16
Livermento's another defender that should be looked at as long
50:19
as chip ears out. Livermento should be heavily
50:22
considered the sneak up. But I have one for you.
50:26
I want to ask you guys about not Air Force just sitting in 3rd
50:30
right now. Mm Hmm Anthony Elonga has had a
50:33
really bad start to the season last year at what, ten goals, 10
50:38
assists or something like that? Something like that.
50:39
But he he was definitely playing a lot better.
50:41
He was more of a integral part of this team.
50:44
Yeah, but he's not right now, but do you think that'll shift
50:47
or do you think like I'm just curious like he's he's unless he
50:51
dropped scoring 50%, so he's now owed in less than 30% of
50:55
leagues. And I'm just curious if he's
50:57
someone you guys would be interested in scooping you, You
50:59
would you need to see him do something let.
51:01
Me simply so unless you unless you're excellent, which I don't
51:05
think any team is excellent or across the board, maybe yours,
51:09
Keith, because you're top in both leagues.
51:11
You know, can I do try my best? So you don't need them like
51:16
Tico's second in one league but in the other league he's like
51:19
7th so you might need them. You should try out Tico.
51:22
You should check it out. All right, those are all the
51:24
names I have. I think if I was to rank him
51:28
it'd probably be Simacus SIM cast whatever B Los Kirkas and
51:34
Jacob Ramsey maybe won by 2-3. I agree and then Livermento is
51:40
right there too. Old and three, three out four
51:43
more defenders of Uni defenders. But hey, they pay attention to
51:47
wavers. Last week I had Nunez and
51:49
someone else on wavers and both of them scored well.
51:52
Evan Nielsen, I think they both had good games, scored 14 1/2
51:56
points each. All right boys, is the time to
52:00
talk about Week 11. Oh my God, Week 10 was such a
52:03
bad week. Can we get, let's just, can we
52:05
just say, look, sorry, he's not here, so let's just do a three,
52:08
three-game bet. Let's do a three-game bat and
52:10
let's not feel like we just have to pick one.
52:12
But I think that's been let's just find games that we like in
52:15
that work. Should.
52:16
We use our brain power together. Yeah, as opposed to we've been
52:19
separating our brain power that's combined our brain power.
52:22
Honestly, if you look at the matchups, it's pretty.
52:25
I'm even looking at the odds. There's a lot of matchups where
52:27
it doesn't matter who you pick, it's plus.
52:30
So the biggest favour of this week is, I think, Tottenham.
52:35
Against Ipswich. Yeah, they are -450 and then
52:42
there's also who else is? I don't.
52:44
I don't. Love, I don't love Tottenham
52:46
though, I just as a it's from as a perspective, it just does not
52:49
feel good. We are at home, though.
52:52
It is at home. Yeah, but I'm.
52:54
I'm with you. I'm not, It's funny.
52:56
I rather bet on Tottenham against frigging like West Ham
53:00
or something in middle. Yeah, not against Ipswich.
53:04
Like definitely. If they'll play any Wolves I'll
53:05
be like Nope. Like United is also a big
53:09
favorite against Leicester City -280 and then.
53:15
I really liked your bet though about wolves beating something I
53:18
didn't. -105. So not not the best, but I
53:22
really think that's gonna happen.
53:23
I genuinely think that that's like.
53:26
I agree, I like they got a win and Southampton is going to be
53:30
coming off a win so I think Walls should knock it out of
53:33
pot. I actually do like Tottenham
53:37
versus Ipswich. Tottenham versus you do Well, I
53:42
don't know. I just don't know about it.
53:45
I mean Tottenham's, they score goals.
53:47
How many do they have for the year 22 and if switch has given
53:50
up, 21? We are the top.
53:52
We are. We have got lied.
53:54
One of the best goal differences, 11.
53:57
They're one of the best plus 11 right now.
54:00
Second best, actually. Yeah, yeah.
54:04
OK, so let's look. At a couple of those, look at a
54:06
couple of those because I don't like Manchester, Leicester.
54:11
The one that that sort of tickles my fancy is Forest
54:14
against Newcastle, because I feel like Newcastle will
54:16
underestimate Forest and this seems like a game for Wood to
54:21
just to be sitting in that box. Oh man.
54:24
I'm just saying the Chelsea, Arsenal game, I'm not sure I
54:27
wouldn't. Touch it.
54:28
I would stay away like we let's rule out some games.
54:32
Bournemouth. I guess Bradford.
54:36
I like that, Bradford. 'S at home.
54:38
Yep, but Bournemouth is on fire. Dude even even City is only -140
54:44
against Brighton. Like City is not going to win
54:46
lose 2 games in a row. I don't know man.
54:49
There's some this is not. It's not an easy week.
54:52
No. They are getting it's not an
54:54
easy week, but they are getting healthier.
54:57
Honestly the best game I think the Wolves game against
55:01
Southampton, I think Tegan might be right.
55:03
The top norm against Ipswich is the most obvious and then after
55:07
that it's who don't know. So if we do City, Tottenham and
55:12
Wolves, it's plus three O 9. Right, so the Titan for me, the
55:16
Titan is -420. It's forfeit.
55:20
I'm using Jack King, so yeah. I'm just saying that like that
55:23
to me, that's a bet that like the odds are just no, like
55:27
nowhere near my level, Not with the risk, not with the risk, you
55:31
know what I mean -420 is just like not good.
55:35
How do you guys feel about United?
55:37
But what? What if I add Bournemouth?
55:40
What about Fulham against Crystal Palace?
55:43
Yeah, I think that's a good bet. What do you think about that
55:47
Tiga? Yeah, that's a good one.
55:51
If we do Wolves, Bournemouth, Fulham, Fulham versus Palace,
55:55
Bournemouth versus Brentford, Wolves versus Southampton, we're
55:58
+1376. That feels pretty good.
56:02
That feels pretty good. Three don't let's not add no one
56:06
else. Keep it a three. 30 to win 412.
56:09
That feels pretty good. All right, This has been episode
56:13
65 of Draft Off Sides. My name is Keith.
56:16
I'm with TV, Enzo, all of the socials.
56:18
We'll see you guys next week. Hopefully I'll still be first
56:30
place in both leagues. Unnecessary.
56:35
Edit that out. Edit that out it is.
56:37
Cool that we're this cool that we're 123 in our mid league
56:43
though. I know when I I was surprised
56:46
when I saw it. I'm not going to lie, because
56:47
I've been, I've gone the last three weeks, I've won both in
56:50
both leagues on both my matchups, which is one of the
56:53
main reasons why. What's driving you?
56:55
Was there a certain player that's kind of like been on high
56:58
drive you? I was, I've been rotating the
57:01
strikers so I wasn't sticking with just habit's Nico Jackson
57:05
and walk in. So I was and I it was working
57:08
out because Welbeck had a good week or, or what's his name?
57:11
Raul had a good week. So then I also the the midfield,
57:16
the defenders, I got Mario Young and I picked those guys up and
57:22
they helped give me some extra points because Ryo, I haven't
57:24
touched. Ryo is probably the only piece
57:27
that I haven't touched. You've also been scoring a lot
57:30
of points, so three out of the last four you scored over 100,
57:35
even though you lost one of them to Tom.
57:36
But you've been putting up some points, yeah.
57:39
I mean, that's huge. It's been a nice little run, but
57:44
yeah. Let's see.
57:46
We'll see, man. Why are you playing this week?
57:50
I am playing, I know I'm playing Tiberius and just.
57:56
Give me the light. No, I played him this week.
57:59
Oh, OK, so you're playing. I'm playing the guy at BU, my
58:02
boy Chris. Got it.
58:05
OK, so it's tanking. He's not tanking.
58:09
He's got like four players that don't that don't come up with
58:11
points. So Rhys, James, Nunez, Gag PO
58:14
and Somerville, so he's going to have to switch on and he's got a
58:17
bunch of injury. Dude, you look at the injuries
58:18
he's got as a gel, Pedro and Sancho on the bench and the
58:22
Brian are coming back from injury on his bench.
58:25
Did you guys see, do you guys see my team in the Bros League?
58:28
Every single player on my bench is injured and three, all three
58:32
of my first round picks are injured.
58:34
No, they don't. All three of my first round
58:36
picks are injured. Yes, it's bullshit.
58:37
Count the Fiori KDB as a Oh they guard Santo.
58:40
You deserve that. You deserve worse than that,
58:43
Keith. I think so like, and I think
58:46
what obsessed me in the in the Bros league is that Nate is
58:48
second. Why does that say yeah?
58:51
Because he's done the stupid trades.
58:54
Hey, they've worked out for him, all right?
58:55
But they haven't. He's fucking just Mooch.
58:58
They literally didn't. They didn't work out for him.
59:01
Bro's leaks, they've scored 1012 points against me which is the
59:05
most, second closest is 40 points behind and there's only
59:09
been one person that scored over 1000 points which is Keef.
59:12
So I feel like I've been like being hammered left and right.
59:18
Yeah, you like it, don't you? Yeah, it's like a normal.
59:23
Thursday.