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  Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Best of Stugatz & Company
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  Speaker 1: of Stugatz & Company live on Fox Sports Radio. We
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  Speaker 1: have a fun show for you today. Chris Long going
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  Speaker 1: to join us in about 15 minutes. We'll bring on
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  Speaker 1: Bear and T-Bob in hour number two to get you
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  Speaker 1: ready for a big college football weekend. Kirk Herbstreit going
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  Speaker 1: to join us in hour number two as well. So
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  Speaker 1: a big show here. And we will take your phone
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  Speaker 1: calls 877-99 on Fox. That is 877-99 on Fox. Just
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  Speaker 1: me and Taylor today. And of course, the guys in
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  Speaker 1: Sherman Oaks. Taylor, do you get coaching fatigue? Is there
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  Speaker 1: a coach? I am tired of two coaches already in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL. And I feel like there are More coaches
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  Speaker 1: on the hot seat, both in college and the NFL,
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  Speaker 1: this early in a season than any season I could
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  Speaker 1: ever recall.
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  Speaker 2: But I do get coaching fatigue.
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  Speaker 1: We assign these traits to some of these coaches, and
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  Speaker 1: some of these coaches, to me, are a bit overrated
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  Speaker 1: and overexposed. And I'm wondering, do you kind of experience
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  Speaker 1: the same thing with certain coaches?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm there right now with Nick Sirianni.
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  Speaker 2: Really?
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  Speaker 3: I just don't think he's a good coach. I think
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  Speaker 3: he doesn't bring anything to the table offensively. He doesn't
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  Speaker 3: bring anything to the table defensively. He's supposed to be
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  Speaker 3: the CEO style coach. And you're looking at this Philadelphia
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  Speaker 3: Eagles team that kind of beats themselves every week. And
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  Speaker 3: it's like Nick Sirianni. You got to do something to
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  Speaker 3: step in here. I know what you're going to say.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: He won a Super Bowl. Yeah, so did Doug Peterson.
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  Speaker 1: I know that, but he's been to two. He should
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  Speaker 1: have won two. They beat Kansas City in one of them.
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  Speaker 1: There is something about beating Kansas City and Patrick Mahomes
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  Speaker 1: and Andy Reid in a Super Bowl that kind of
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  Speaker 1: helps his cause.
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  Speaker 2: He's won two-thirds of his games.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not tired of Sirianni because he entertains me. Whether
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  Speaker 1: they win or lose, Nick Sirianni is entertaining, and so
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  Speaker 1: I don't have kind of coaching fatigue with Nick Sirianni.
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  Speaker 3: The problem that I'm running into with Nick Sirianni, and
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  Speaker 3: I noticed this especially during that game against the Jaguars
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  Speaker 3: in London.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Sirianni wears that Italian patch on his hat, and I.
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  Speaker 1: Love it as a fellow Paisan. That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't give a bleep. He knows Philly hates him.
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  Speaker 1: He knows the fan base doesn't want him there, and
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  Speaker 1: he kind of leans into it.
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  Speaker 2: He cares.
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  Speaker 3: Especially after the success of the Italian baseball team in
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  Speaker 3: the World Baseball Classic where they had Jorge Posada and
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  Speaker 3: Mike Piazza rallying the boy Jack Caglione. Vinny Pasquitino. It
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  Speaker 3: does hurt me to kind of turn on a fellow Italian,
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  Speaker 3: but Nick Sirianni, I think Nick Sirianni's time in Philadelphia
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  Speaker 3: has kind of run its course. He doesn't have Jason Kelsey,
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  Speaker 3: the Lane Johnsons, the Zacherts anymore to kind of bail
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  Speaker 3: him out.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: That offensive line was always there to bail him out.
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  Speaker 2: You're right.
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  Speaker 1: And he no longer has that, but I suspect that
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  Speaker 1: team will still win that division.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. And I mean, the current version of Zacherts, because
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  Speaker 3: I know Zacherts is still in Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 1: Right, but if they win that division, Sirianni's going nowhere, right? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's just hard. They still have a path to win
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  Speaker 1: the NFC East. It's just hard to say that you.
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  Speaker 3: Have a lot of confidence. You really don't have confidence
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  Speaker 3: in any of those teams in the NFC East, which
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  Speaker 3: the crazy thing is you might have the most confidence
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  Speaker 3: in the Giants, but you look at their quarterback situation
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  Speaker 3: with Jackson Dart out for the season and Jameis Winston,
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  Speaker 3: where if Jackson Dart doesn't get hurt, I think if
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  Speaker 3: you're a Giants fan, you're expecting the Giants to kind
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  Speaker 3: of run away with the division.
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  Speaker 2: Probably.
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  Speaker 1: Kurt Cignetti is a guy where I'm worried for him
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  Speaker 1: because we don't have it yet, but I feel like
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  Speaker 1: we'll have coaching fatigue with Kurt Cignetti. Like people are
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  Speaker 1: waiting for the other shoe to drop, you know? He's
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  Speaker 1: had such a great run. He has done something that
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  Speaker 1: no other coach has done. He has taken the worst
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  Speaker 1: college football program in the history of the sport and
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  Speaker 1: has made them national champions.
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  Speaker 2: Relevant. They're plus three and a half this weekend. at
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  Speaker 2: home against Ohio State.
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  Speaker 1: That game normally would be plus 33 and a half
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  Speaker 1: at home for Indiana. So Cignetti, but he's a guy
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  Speaker 1: I feel like people are starting already to get tired
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  Speaker 1: of Kurt Cignetti.
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  Speaker 2: Is that fair?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, to an extent, but in college football, it feels
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  Speaker 3: like more people are tired of Lane Kiffin than somebody
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  Speaker 3: like Kirk Cignetti, where everybody talks up Lane Kiffin, and
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  Speaker 3: Lane Kiffin, great for the sport of college football, because
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  Speaker 3: I do think you need somebody to hate. Growing up,
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  Speaker 3: I hated Nick Saban, and I hated those Alabama teams.
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  Speaker 3: You do need that villain in college football, but I
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  Speaker 3: do think there's a certain extent of people that are
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  Speaker 3: more tired with... With what Lane Kiffin has done the
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  Speaker 3: past couple years where you listen to people and how
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  Speaker 3: they talk about Lane Kiffin and the conversation. It's Lane
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  Speaker 3: Kiffin this, Lane Kiffin that. Lane Kiffin doesn't have a
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  Speaker 3: national title. At least Kirk Cignetti does.
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  Speaker 2: At Indiana.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's worth five.
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  Speaker 1: The most improbable place ever to win a national championship.
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  Speaker 1: And Cignetti has done it there. And Lane Kiffin has
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  Speaker 1: yet to do it. Didn't do it at Mississippi and
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  Speaker 1: will not do it this year at LSU. And yet
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  Speaker 1: all we do is talk about Lane Kiffin. Be sure
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  Speaker 1: to catch live editions of Stu Godson Company live weekdays
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  Speaker 1: at 3 p.m.
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  Speaker 2: Eastern, 12 p.m. Pacific. Sean McVay. I know you're going
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  Speaker 2: to say to me he's won a Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: I know the things that you're going to say to
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  Speaker 1: me about McVay and how great McVay is. But McVay,
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  Speaker 1: if you think back to that Super Bowl, he was
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  Speaker 1: lucky to win that Super Bowl. First game on the road,
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  Speaker 1: I think it was in Tampa. The Bucs should have
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  Speaker 1: won that game. Someone in the Tampa Bay secondary dropped
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  Speaker 1: an easy interception. Otherwise, the Rams don't win that Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: And what he did recently after losing to the Bills
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  Speaker 1: in what probably was the game of the year thus
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  Speaker 1: far in the NFL until this weekend when someone else
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  Speaker 1: has a better game. But what he did was take
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  Speaker 1: no accountability. What he did was cut his kicker. And
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  Speaker 1: that drives me crazy. Because Sean McVay is the guy
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  Speaker 1: who selected that kicker, who put that kicker on the team. Like,
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  Speaker 1: they pay attention to the details in L.A., McVay and Snead,
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  Speaker 1: and they're fantastic. But they don't pay any attention to
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  Speaker 1: special teams. And so McVay to cut the kicker after
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  Speaker 1: that game where the Rams drive down the field and
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  Speaker 1: they have an opportunity at home to win that game
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  Speaker 1: by going for two. You have all the momentum. You
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  Speaker 1: have a defense that can't stop you. You have an
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  Speaker 1: all-time quarterback, an offense that can't be stopped. You have
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  Speaker 1: Devontae Adams and Puka Nakua. And you decide to send
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  Speaker 1: the game to overtime rather than to try and win
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  Speaker 1: it right then and there.
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  Speaker 2: And then what happens from there? They go to overtime.
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  Speaker 2: They lose the game. Kicker has the kick blocked. And
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  Speaker 2: the kicker gets cut.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't hear McVay saying, talking about his poor
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  Speaker 1: decision-making at the end of that game to not go
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  Speaker 1: for two when his offense was unstoppable, and they might
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  Speaker 1: have the most unstoppable wide receiver in the history of
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  Speaker 1: the NFL in the red zone in Devontae Adams. How
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't go for two in that spot is beyond me, Taylor.
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  Speaker 3: I would actually defend Sean McVay not going for two there,
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  Speaker 3: and I would use a lot of the points that
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  Speaker 3: you made. You have a great wide receiver duo in
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  Speaker 3: Puka Nukua and Devontae Adams. You have the reigning MVP
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  Speaker 3: in Matthew Stafford. You don't want the game to come
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  Speaker 3: down to just a single play. If you have that
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  Speaker 3: much confidence in your offense... you want them to have
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  Speaker 3: a larger sample size to try to determine a game.
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  Speaker 3: That's where you go for overtime. You're at home. You
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  Speaker 3: have the home crowd. You really just have to trust
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  Speaker 3: your defense to make a stop against Josh Allen, which
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  Speaker 3: is the bigger question. The defense did make the stop,
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  Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden it just turns into
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  Speaker 3: now you have to just have one possession where it
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  Speaker 3: ends in a score. I think the bigger knock on
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  Speaker 3: McVay is the play calling at the end of the
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  Speaker 3: overtime where you have that decision. I think it's a
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  Speaker 3: situation where... The Rams are two and two going into
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  Speaker 3: that fourth quarter. Yes. If the Rams are like four
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  Speaker 3: and one or three and one and you have more
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  Speaker 3: wiggle room, then maybe, yeah, you go for two there
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  Speaker 3: because of the fact that they're sitting at 500. I
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  Speaker 3: think the Rams had to approach that game from a
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  Speaker 3: safer mindset. to just try to get out of that
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  Speaker 3: game with a win when the person across from you
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  Speaker 3: is Josh Allen.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Well, I don't give Josh Allen another chance. I
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  Speaker 1: win it or lose it right there by going for two.
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  Speaker 1: Trust your offense. Trust the Hall of Fame quarterback that
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  Speaker 1: you wanted on your team. You traded Jared Goff to
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  Speaker 1: get him. He won you a Super Bowl. He was
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  Speaker 1: the MVP last year. Trust your quarterback in that spot
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  Speaker 1: to get you two, three yards, win the game, and
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  Speaker 1: go home. And so we assign all these attributes to
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  Speaker 1: Sean McVay. Really, what has Sean McVay done? You're going
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  Speaker 1: to say he won a Super Bowl, and I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to tell you he was lucky to win that Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: And yet we sit here and we talk about him
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  Speaker 1: as one of the all-time great coaches in the history
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  Speaker 1: of the NFL. Doug Peterson, as you pointed out earlier,
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  Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl. He has as many Super Bowls
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  Speaker 1: as Doug Peterson. Peterson did it with a backup. How
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  Speaker 1: about that? Win one with Nick Foles.
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  Speaker 3: There was a stat on the broadcast, too, from Joe
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  Speaker 3: Buck on the ESPN broadcast where I'm pretty sure they
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  Speaker 3: said the last two-point conversion from the Rams was in, like,
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  Speaker 3: 2023 or, like, early 2024.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Which sounds, like, statistically impossible when you consider how many
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  Speaker 3: weapons they have.
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  Speaker 2: In that offense.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, how do you not trust? I understand what
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  Speaker 2: you're saying about the record.
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  Speaker 1: But when you have those offensive weapons and that quarterback
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  Speaker 1: and the team you're playing has that quarterback who you
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  Speaker 1: don't want to see on the field again, why not
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  Speaker 1: take your chances getting three yards and end the game?
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  Speaker 1: And so what he does after the game is the
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  Speaker 1: most cowardly thing a coach can do.
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  Speaker 3: Do.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't blame himself. He takes no accountability. He cuts
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  Speaker 2: his kicker. Get out of here.
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  Speaker 3: So I have this stat. Under Sean McVay, the Rams
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  Speaker 3: have used 10 kickers since he became the head coach
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  Speaker 3: in 2017. They have also had 81 missed or blocked
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  Speaker 3: kicks since then, which is the third most in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Pay attention to the details. I mean, all three phases,
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  Speaker 1: special teams, he ignores special teams.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't care. And then when he loses a game.
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  Speaker 1: Because he doesn't go for two, he cuts the kicker
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  Speaker 1: that he put.
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  Speaker 2: On the team.
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  Speaker 3: That seems like a popular thing though, for people to
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  Speaker 3: kind of disregard special teams. You just hope that your
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  Speaker 3: NFL coach also isn't with the, the, the every like
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  Speaker 3: no everyday fan is going into the game saying, oh man,
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  Speaker 3: our special teams has to be great today. They're talking
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  Speaker 3: about their offense. They're talking about their defense. They're not
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  Speaker 3: talking about the procedure of your field goal operation.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: It seems like that has kind of leaked over into
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  Speaker 3: the Rams building though. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: You only notice the special teams when the special teams
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  Speaker 1: cost you a game. No one is going to a game,
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  Speaker 1: you're right, excited because, hey, we're going to watch our
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  Speaker 1: special teams unit play today. But you notice them, like
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  Speaker 1: a referee when he makes a bad call. The biggest
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  Speaker 1: compliment you can give a ref is no one notices
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  Speaker 1: he's there, right? And the biggest compliment you can give
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  Speaker 1: your special teams is the same. No one notices that
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  Speaker 1: you're there. But when they notice and it costs you
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  Speaker 1: a game, then you get cut. And Sean McVay taking
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  Speaker 1: no accountability is just lame. And I'm sorry, we assigned
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  Speaker 1: too many positive attributes to Sean McVay, who has done
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  Speaker 1: the same thing as Doug Peterson, but Doug Peterson.
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  Speaker 2: Did it with a backup.
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  Speaker 3: I feel bad what we're doing to Doug Peterson.
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  Speaker 2: I don't feel bad about what we're doing to Sean McVay.
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  Speaker 2: He deserves it. Taylor, did you know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm wondering here, Taylor, because there's a team and there's
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  Speaker 1: a player that changed your life.
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  Speaker 2: I am wondering if you are so far.
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  Speaker 1: Removed from them winning a championship that you have forgotten
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  Speaker 1: that the NBA season starts next week.
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  Speaker 3: The better way to ask that question, Stu.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: Did I know the Knicks are raising a banner on Tuesday?
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  Speaker 3: It's been the only thing on my calendar since they
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  Speaker 3: won it all.
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  Speaker 2: It's circled, is it?
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  Speaker 3: Tuesday, so Tuesday is October 20th. It's actually my mom's birthday.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: I texted her.
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  Speaker 2: Special.
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  Speaker 3: I texted her. I'm so jealous of your birthday. You
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  Speaker 3: get to share a day with the Knicks banner. I
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  Speaker 3: would move my birthday from March 1st to either the
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  Speaker 3: day the Knicks won it all or the Knicks banner night.
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  Speaker 1: Where are you as a Knicks fan? Like, did the
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  Speaker 1: championship last year, is that enough? Are you satisfied as
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  Speaker 1: a fan or do you want more because you know
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  Speaker 1: the window is going to close on this team?
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  Speaker 2: It's going to close very quickly.
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  Speaker 1: There is, you know, we have no guarantee that Carl
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  Speaker 1: Anthony Towns will be there long term.
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  Speaker 2: They haven't been able to work out a deal. Was
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  Speaker 2: the one championship enough?
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  Speaker 1: Meaning, if you never see the Knicks win another championship again,
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  Speaker 1: never raise another banner again, are you good?
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  Speaker 3: The greedy sports fan in me says, no, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: good because I went in with that mindset thinking I'm 32.
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  Speaker 3: I thought there was a chance I would be like
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  Speaker 3: you with the jets. I would never see my team
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  Speaker 3: win a title.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And especially for, for a majority of my life, the
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  Speaker 3: Knicks have given me no reason to think that they
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  Speaker 3: would ever be able to hoist the Larry O'Brien trophy.
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  Speaker 3: And then, then you mentioned Jalen Brunson comes into my life.
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  Speaker 3: I said, I think this guy's going to change my life.
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  Speaker 3: And what did Jalen Brunson do? He changed my life.
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  Speaker 3: Now that I've seen it and I've got that taste
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  Speaker 3: of success, I'm addicted to it.
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  Speaker 2: You want more?
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  Speaker 3: I want more banners.
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  Speaker 1: So I waited a lot longer than you did to
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  Speaker 1: get that championship. I'm a lot older than you are,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm good. If they never win another one, at
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  Speaker 1: least I got one. I understand, though, why you, a
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  Speaker 1: young man, 32 years old, you're greedy, you're selfish, and
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  Speaker 1: you think you're satisfied, you think you're satiated.
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  Speaker 2: But God forbid they get.
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  Speaker 1: Off to like a 2-8 start, you will start ripping
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  Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson to shreds.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, I'll never rip Jalen Brunson. Jalen Brunson has
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  Speaker 3: earned the... So I have a lifetime pass.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Jalen Brunson has received the Taylor Vipolis lifetime pass, where
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  Speaker 3: I will never rip Jalen Brunson.
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  Speaker 2: Is that the first time you've given someone a lifetime pass?
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  Speaker 3: Yes. Derek Jeter. Derek Jeter also has a lifetime pass.
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  Speaker 2: Jeter has a lifetime pass.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Who else has a lifetime pass in sports? I feel
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  Speaker 1: like Kurt Cignetti at Indiana. has a lifetime pass in sports.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think certain fan bases give out lifetime passes.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a North Carolina basketball fan, North Carolina football fan.
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  Speaker 3: Roy Williams has a lifetime pass. The last couple of
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  Speaker 3: seasons with Roy Williams, when the transfer portal error started coming,
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  Speaker 3: we're not good. But I was saying Roy Williams has
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  Speaker 3: more than earned the right to go out however he
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  Speaker 3: wants to go out in Chapel Hill. So that's why
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  Speaker 3: Roy Williams, if you checked Roy Williams' wallet, you would
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  Speaker 3: see the Taylor lifetime pass.
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  Speaker 2: Really? They carry it around in a wallet, huh? They
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  Speaker 2: show it off.
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  Speaker 3: It's laminated. So if, Jalen Brunson has the lifetime pass.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: If the Knicks get off to a slow start in
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  Speaker 3: the month of October and it starts bleeding over to November,
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  Speaker 3: I have no problem calling for Mike Brown's job again.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so he doesn't have the lifetime pass. He was
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  Speaker 1: the coach of the team that won you a change
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: your life.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: Correct. Carl Anthony Towns, Josh Hart, none of those guys
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: have lifetime passes. What? Because Jalen Brunson was essentially the
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: catalyst that- got this team over the hump.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: Right. Does OG have a lifetime pass?
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: That's a good call for the tip in. That's a
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: good call.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: He does.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: If you, if your singular sports moment was one of
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: the greatest moments of my life, right? Lifetime pass.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: It depends on the city, right?
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: You would think that Nick Sirianni after winning a Superbowl,
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: beating the chiefs, beating Andy Reed, beating Patrick Mahomes and
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: almost doing it twice. you would think he would have
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: a lifetime pass. But the second he makes a mistake,
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: people want him fired.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, every city's standards are a bit different. Like Eli Manning.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: Eli Manning had a lifetime pass in New York when
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: he beats Tom Brady in two Super Bowls. He beats
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: Bill Belichick in two Super Bowls. Where Eli Manning could
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: have sputtered out at the end of his career in
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: New York, which he kind of did. New York fans
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: were like, this guy has earned the right to go
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: out his way.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: It is so odd.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: It is totally based on where it is that you coach.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: Because you would think, of course, Ryan Day has a
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: lifetime past, but he doesn't.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: No.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: God forbid he loses to Michigan this year. He might
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: find himself on the hot seat. So it really depends
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: on where it is that you coach, the location, how
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: passionate the fan base is for the team.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Like the 86 Mets.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Dwight Gooden, they won a World Series. And after that, Gooden, Strawberry,
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: they got worse. The team wasn't as good. But they
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: have a lifetime pass with me.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: I was okay. It's laminated.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: If you're looking in South Florida, I think Mario Cristobal
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: is teetering on lifetime pass.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: He has to win one, though, right?
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: I think Miami has been so starved for success that
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: the fact that they're even making it to the playoffs
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: with regularity. Now, Miami still hasn't won an ACC title
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: since they've joined the ACC, which is shocking when The
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: Duke Blue Devils have in football.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: But Mario got to a national championship game.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: He didn't win it.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: The expectation down here is to win national championships for Miami.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: I feel like he has a pass for now, but
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: if he doesn't win a championship the next three or
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: four years. And I know Miami fans better than anyone.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: I've been doing it down here for 20 years. They
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: will turn on him in a heartbeat.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: Spoh lifetime pass? Yes. Spoh, yes.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: 100%.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: And Riley, of course.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Well, no. I'm not so certain. Sometimes people call Riley.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: He's over the hill hanging up.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: There's not much lifetime left.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: College football next.