Latest / NO FILTER / The disappearance of Emily Noble [True Crime documentary]
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Twenty four years over one hundred and fifty jury trials.
- 0:03Speaker 2: I've never had a harder closing argument than this, because, honestly,
- 0:07Speaker 2: at most I've got evidence to attack. This case is
- 0:13Speaker 2: totally speculation.
- 0:17Speaker 3: Hi everyone, I'm Kevin, and this is just thought Lounge.
- 0:20Speaker 3: JTL is the true crime channel that delivers serious, well
- 0:23Speaker 3: balanced coverage of the cases that really make you think.
- 0:26Speaker 3: We're about to take a look at a case that
- 0:28Speaker 3: had investigators questioning the meaning and authenticity of every piece
- 0:32Speaker 3: of evidence they uncovered, what was real in this case
- 0:35Speaker 3: and what had been staged to lead them in the
- 0:37Speaker 3: wrong direction. On the twenty fourth of May twenty twenty,
- 0:42Speaker 3: in Westernville, Ohio, Emily Noble and her husband of two years,
- 0:46Speaker 3: Matthew Moore, went out on the town to celebrate her
- 0:48Speaker 3: fifty second birthday. After an enjoyable time out, they were
- 0:52Speaker 3: seen returning home early that evening. Less than twenty four
- 0:55Speaker 3: hours later, however, Matt had called police to the home.
- 0:59Speaker 3: His wife was missing, her purse, car id and phone
- 1:03Speaker 3: all left behind, and Emily could not be found. Telling
- 1:07Speaker 3: police that he had a bad feeling in the pit
- 1:09Speaker 3: of his stomach and suspected the worst. Matt spent hours
- 1:13Speaker 3: speaking with investigators. He pointed out potentially key evidence guided
- 1:18Speaker 3: them to areas to look for. Emily suggested what he
- 1:21Speaker 3: thought or feared could have happened. After months of searching evidence,
- 1:26Speaker 3: gathering expert reports, and questioning, detectives were convinced they have
- 1:31Speaker 3: seen through the act and they have pieced together the puzzle.
- 1:34Speaker 3: There was more to the case than meets the eye,
- 1:37Speaker 3: and more to Matthew, more than a distraught husband. Or
- 1:41Speaker 3: was there? Let's take a look. Friends of Emily nobles,
- 1:55Speaker 3: of which she had many described her as a big hearted,
- 1:58Speaker 3: slightly eccentric, an unfailingly loyal person. She embraced in nature,
- 2:03Speaker 3: loved going for walks, and had adopted a hobby of
- 2:07Speaker 3: foraging and drying out plants what most people would consider weeds,
- 2:11Speaker 3: and using these as herbs in her kitchen or to
- 2:14Speaker 3: replace the produce at her local grocery store. Emily was
- 2:18Speaker 3: a lover of nature. Many of her friends said that
- 2:21Speaker 3: they never expected the feisty and independently minded Emily to
- 2:25Speaker 3: get married, but she did so twice. In around twenty sixteen,
- 2:29Speaker 3: Emily joined the dating website Plenty of Fish and met
- 2:32Speaker 3: Matthew Moore, a man that shared her self described hippie
- 2:37Speaker 3: like lifestyle. Matt, once married himself, had made a career
- 2:41Speaker 3: as a casino worker in Las Vegas for over twenty years,
- 2:44Speaker 3: but he had relocated with his son briefly, at first
- 2:47Speaker 3: to Ohio, where he had first met Emily. But after
- 2:51Speaker 3: the program that his teenage son, Joey was enrolled and ended,
- 2:54Speaker 3: Matt made his way back to Vegas to work, leaving
- 2:57Speaker 3: Emily devastated and heartbroken to those close to her. The
- 3:01Speaker 3: separation did not take however, Emily and Matt reconnected, leading
- 3:06Speaker 3: Matt and Joey to move back to Ohio. In the
- 3:08Speaker 3: summer of twenty eighteen, Emily and Matt Moore were married.
- 3:12Speaker 3: They moved into Emily's condo and inheritance from her mother,
- 3:16Speaker 3: and looked after Joey, a teenager who required special care.
- 3:20Speaker 3: Emily and Joey rapidly grew very close. There was a
- 3:26Speaker 3: cloud that hung over Emily's fifty second birthday celebration with
- 3:29Speaker 3: her husband on the twenty fourth of May twenty twenty.
- 3:33Speaker 3: It had been a year of grief for the couple.
- 3:35Speaker 3: Ten months prior, eighteen year old Joey having recently been
- 3:39Speaker 3: diagnosed with schizophrenia had taken his own life. Devastated by
- 3:43Speaker 3: the loss, Emily had taken a few months off at
- 3:46Speaker 3: the medicaid office where she worked. Matt also struggled with
- 3:50Speaker 3: depression for a time. At least, they both just tried
- 3:54Speaker 3: to cope. Even regular daily tasks became difficult to work through.
- 4:02Speaker 3: The two took a bit of a road trip in
- 4:04Speaker 3: the morning towards a small village where a natural spring
- 4:07Speaker 3: provided fresh water which they could bottle up and take
- 4:10Speaker 3: home with them. This was the type of natural foraging
- 4:13Speaker 3: activity that Emily loved. Back in Westerville, the couple headed
- 4:17Speaker 3: to Uptown, where shops, restaurants, and bars provided an evening
- 4:21Speaker 3: out drinking and chatting. They bar hopped, but they did
- 4:24Speaker 3: not stay out late. It was an enjoyable evening, Matt said,
- 4:28Speaker 3: they had both been in good spirits. This made the
- 4:33Speaker 3: events of the next day even more confusing. Awake by
- 4:36Speaker 3: maybe ten am, Matt had no idea where his wife was.
- 4:40Speaker 3: They had plans to have a picnic with an old
- 4:42Speaker 3: friend of Emily's, but he didn't know any of the
- 4:44Speaker 3: details surrounding the plans that she had made, and she
- 4:47Speaker 3: wasn't around to clarify Just before six pm, he called
- 4:51Speaker 3: one of Emily's best friends, Celeste. Had she heard from
- 4:54Speaker 3: Emily that day? She had not. Celeste told Matt to
- 4:58Speaker 3: contact the police. The next call made was to nine one.
- 5:01Speaker 4: One my wife, let your perfect here, whether I be
- 5:15Speaker 4: a car or the carts their volunteer. I mean it
- 5:23Speaker 4: was animalist is always an advice.
- 5:25Speaker 5: Who called you?
- 5:26Speaker 4: It's very very character pressed. You know, a great day
- 5:34Speaker 4: of today.
- 5:35Speaker 3: It was the day well.
- 5:38Speaker 6: The fun.
- 5:38Speaker 4: He wasn't there. But there's not abnormal. But I mean,
- 5:42Speaker 4: you know, you come home or all not go for
- 5:45Speaker 4: a walk. It's a very repetidulture to the contact. You
- 5:51Speaker 4: have phone here.
- 5:52Speaker 7: She's always got.
- 5:53Speaker 8: Her phone with.
- 5:58Speaker 2: You or give you a call.
- 6:03Speaker 3: So letste approached the house just as Sergeant Robert Hollis arrived.
- 6:08Speaker 9: Okay, so what's she's uh?
- 6:13Speaker 7: Uncharacteristically say, uh, I just heard her laws here. Hears
- 6:21Speaker 7: the wat's nie and her phone's here.
- 6:29Speaker 3: Matt explained that he had gotten out of bed in
- 6:31Speaker 3: the night at an undetermined time, maybe about midnight, to
- 6:35Speaker 3: use the restroom, but instead of returning to bed with
- 6:38Speaker 3: his wife, his habit was to go back to sleep
- 6:40Speaker 3: in Joey's old room. So that he would not disturb
- 6:43Speaker 3: Emily when returning to bed. Then when he awoke sometime
- 6:47Speaker 3: around ten am, Emily was gone.
- 6:51Speaker 9: Did you call her and called?
- 6:53Speaker 7: She's her her best friend in and I'd just call her.
- 6:59Speaker 7: We were supposed to be at a party today.
- 7:02Speaker 9: What time was a picnic?
- 7:07Speaker 10: Start?
- 7:07Speaker 11: Tell me more of the baby again?
- 7:10Speaker 2: Sometimes she didn't tell me when it was stars.
- 7:12Speaker 6: Just waiting for her.
- 7:13Speaker 4: Tell me when we should go.
- 7:14Speaker 9: I text her twice and say one party.
- 7:17Speaker 4: She'd get back to me.
- 7:18Speaker 9: So K called that guy and I said she would
- 7:22Speaker 9: the gods at the party. Okay, is this a friend?
- 7:25Speaker 9: Do you know this guy? It's an old from hers that.
- 7:30Speaker 7: She just connected with on Facebook, shet hers Bay.
- 7:38Speaker 4: But I texted him, you say, Seeing all.
- 7:40Speaker 3: That, Matt offered to Sergeant Hollis that Emily often took
- 7:45Speaker 3: walks to forage, and that the regular trails that she
- 7:48Speaker 3: frequented nearby would be a logical place to look for her.
- 7:52Speaker 9: She forages, goes for walks, and she picks wild at whole.
- 7:58Speaker 4: Number of hobby she goes around here.
- 8:05Speaker 3: The most.
- 8:10Speaker 9: Is that something you guys do together, So you would
- 8:13Speaker 9: know where we could look if we need to.
- 8:15Speaker 4: Go out yes, it's public.
- 8:18Speaker 5: Sounds like watch.
- 8:22Speaker 7: I got died seeing It's really hard to get off
- 8:29Speaker 7: this so.
- 8:33Speaker 3: Not over two hours, Matt walked Sergeant Hallis through his house,
- 8:41Speaker 3: examining both vehicles, and reviewed his recollection of the night
- 8:45Speaker 3: before and that morning numerous times. More than once. Matt
- 8:50Speaker 3: noted that he had a bad feeling and that he
- 8:52Speaker 3: was thinking that it was possible the worst had already happened.
- 8:56Speaker 3: It is really disturbing. Matt said that a person is
- 8:59Speaker 3: so methodical, thoughtful and organized as Emily would behave so unpredictably.
- 9:07Speaker 4: Where's person out of her new does every good?
- 9:11Speaker 6: She taught me a lot.
- 9:12Speaker 4: She's really tituous.
- 9:17Speaker 3: Character.
- 9:18Speaker 4: Never go somewhere that tide where she never see.
- 9:24Speaker 9: I mean, I'd last as long as I could today,
- 9:27Speaker 9: just like her.
- 9:29Speaker 3: She's ordering she went for a lock.
- 9:31Speaker 12: The trip here, make something picture, which I don't think.
- 9:34Speaker 2: It ever happened.
- 9:36Speaker 4: I've never heard, well she would have her I mean, that's.
- 9:41Speaker 5: And she would have told you that she's.
- 9:45Speaker 3: He pointed to one item in particular that stood out
- 9:48Speaker 3: to him as out of place in the house, A
- 9:50Speaker 3: large extension cord placed on top of the cooler in
- 9:53Speaker 3: the garage, the same cooler that the couple had brought
- 9:56Speaker 3: with them on the trip to the spring the day before.
- 9:58Speaker 3: How did the chord come to rest on top of
- 10:00Speaker 3: the cooler after they came home? And what did that mean?
- 10:05Speaker 9: Dang, I don't know, man, it's just weird this it's here,
- 10:11Speaker 9: And I don't know if there was more more than
- 10:14Speaker 9: one thing, and I.
- 10:15Speaker 6: Would just why is this here?
- 10:17Speaker 13: And her mom passed away and out.
- 10:20Speaker 6: Of the car crash cracked.
- 10:21Speaker 5: O'kay, kid, I don't know.
- 10:25Speaker 4: If I don't know, this is.
- 10:30Speaker 12: We went that, We went to that spring.
- 10:33Speaker 4: And felt about this is the spring, the spring water?
- 10:37Speaker 4: Your phone rang and I just got out home and
- 10:38Speaker 4: put it there, getting wrong.
- 10:43Speaker 2: I don't know, but I'm telling you.
- 10:46Speaker 9: I'm positive this was.
- 10:48Speaker 1: Here in it It wasn't there to tell you guys,
- 10:51Speaker 1: put the thing in there here yesterdays like the Three
- 10:54Speaker 1: bouts put it.
- 10:55Speaker 7: In the frise to keep the cold and kept the
- 10:56Speaker 7: risks out here. And it's maybe at some point she
- 10:59Speaker 7: took it for some weird reason. Maybe, But I'm just
- 11:02Speaker 7: going if this wasn't enough, she wouldn't do that. Everything
- 11:06Speaker 7: weren't supposed to be everything here is. This means she
- 11:12Speaker 7: wouldn't you're like that.
- 11:20Speaker 3: In the days that followed, missing person posters were printed
- 11:23Speaker 3: and distributed, and more formal search parties were organized. The
- 11:27Speaker 3: police employed to the use of drones, helicopters, divers, and
- 11:30Speaker 3: eventually cadaver dogs to comb through the surrounding area. The
- 11:35Speaker 3: investigation was not restricted to the outdoors. Matthew and Emily's
- 11:39Speaker 3: condo was searched extensively. Forensic teams from the Ohio Criminal
- 11:43Speaker 3: Investigations Bureau were called in to assess the condo. They
- 11:47Speaker 3: found no signs of foul play in the home. Security
- 11:50Speaker 3: footage from the restaurant and the bars confirmed Matt's version
- 11:53Speaker 3: of events up to that point. They were seen leaving
- 11:56Speaker 3: the last bar at around seven thirty pm. Something that
- 12:00Speaker 3: both had worn out was located in a laundry bin
- 12:03Speaker 3: in the condo's bathroom, still unwashed, which again confirmed that
- 12:07Speaker 3: they had in fact come home that night and left
- 12:09Speaker 3: in question what Emily may have been wearing when she
- 12:12Speaker 3: exited the condo. Police asked for help from the public.
- 12:16Speaker 14: And then one resident in the area who puts her
- 12:20Speaker 14: back at home seven to eight pm range on Sunday,
- 12:24Speaker 14: the twenty fourth May. I think the nature of this
- 12:27Speaker 14: disappearance is suspicious because how many people up and vanish,
- 12:32Speaker 14: leaving everything behind like that. Now that said, we've had
- 12:35Speaker 14: another recent case where a young lady did exactly that.
- 12:40Speaker 3: As the search for Emily continued, many in her close
- 12:43Speaker 3: circle of friends grew more and more suspicious of Matt.
- 12:46Speaker 3: After the first few days, he was not contributing towards
- 12:49Speaker 3: their efforts to find her, they said, and he refused
- 12:52Speaker 3: to join foot searches. Matt did contact a popular true
- 12:55Speaker 3: crime podcast, The Vanished Podcast, to bring greater exposure to
- 12:59Speaker 3: the but this effort did nothing to dispel suspicions towards him.
- 13:04Speaker 3: The description that he offered of his very petite wife
- 13:07Speaker 3: on the show struck many as extremely odd and off putting.
- 13:11Speaker 3: His comments brought exposure to the case, but also to himself.
- 13:17Speaker 14: We asked him if he could describe Emily to us.
- 13:20Speaker 1: This is what he said.
- 13:21Speaker 4: I never saw her got on to get on a scale.
- 13:24Speaker 4: She's very small. She's like one hundred pounds, great legs,
- 13:28Speaker 4: great arms.
- 13:30Speaker 3: Matt also unhelpfully suggested more than one somewhat bizarre theory
- 13:34Speaker 3: to account for Emily's disappearance. Perhaps she had run off
- 13:38Speaker 3: with Amish people, or she had been secretly kidnapped. Friends
- 13:42Speaker 3: began to speak openly about their distaste for Matt, which
- 13:45Speaker 3: had been brewing, it seems for some time. The perception
- 13:49Speaker 3: was that he abandoned Emily early in their relationship, when
- 13:52Speaker 3: he had moved back to Las Vegas to care for
- 13:54Speaker 3: his son, leaving her heartbroken. From this point onwards, he
- 13:59Speaker 3: was not well liked. He was characterized as possessive and
- 14:03Speaker 3: demeaning towards his wife by her friends, and it was
- 14:06Speaker 3: suggested that he had slowly but purposely isolated her from them.
- 14:11Speaker 3: Emily's friends were not the only ones harboring doubts about
- 14:14Speaker 3: Matt and his story. Detectives with the Westerville Police were
- 14:18Speaker 3: thinking that things did not add up. Matt was brought
- 14:21Speaker 3: in for a voluntary interview two days following the missing
- 14:24Speaker 3: person report. Straight out of the gate, he told the
- 14:27Speaker 3: detectives that he didn't do it, a statement that in
- 14:30Speaker 3: fact had the opposite of the intended impact on the investigators.
- 14:34Speaker 3: His wife was missing, so what was it that he
- 14:37Speaker 3: didn't do? He also continually referred to Emily in the
- 14:40Speaker 3: past tense throughout the interview. He was asked again to
- 14:44Speaker 3: provide the timeline of events leading to the last time
- 14:47Speaker 3: he saw Emily.
- 14:51Speaker 9: Now, I've gone through to my head with timeline and
- 14:56Speaker 9: some times don't line up. I made his home call
- 14:59Speaker 9: when I thought obviously being so, I mean, I quo
- 15:04Speaker 9: try my best, but I don't want.
- 15:05Speaker 3: To make but you didn't be fault.
- 15:07Speaker 4: You're healing, right, yeah, I mean, and all I want
- 15:12Speaker 4: is your best.
- 15:13Speaker 9: It might be I can specific time that couldn't really
- 15:17Speaker 9: be like this is mine and this is mine that
- 15:20Speaker 9: I could if I had my phone sort.
- 15:22Speaker 15: Of just the best that you can.
- 15:25Speaker 9: I want to make sure that sequentially, I understand you
- 15:27Speaker 9: help me write it because I can't spell for one
- 15:30Speaker 9: very horrible or like just kind of help me.
- 15:33Speaker 7: But if you need help with the word.
- 15:34Speaker 4: That I can help you spell the absolutely bits And
- 15:36Speaker 4: I'm not here to judge now.
- 15:39Speaker 3: Matt's faltering memory was one of many factors concerning to investigators.
- 15:43Speaker 3: They also believe that he may have had a motive
- 15:45Speaker 3: to hurt his wife. He had initially framed their marriage
- 15:48Speaker 3: as a happy one, but text messages pulled from Emily's
- 15:51Speaker 3: phone suggested a different story. Matthew was at best misrepresenting
- 15:56Speaker 3: the state of his relationship. At worst, he was outright
- 16:00Speaker 3: lying about a marriage that was crumbling over disagreements that
- 16:03Speaker 3: had become quite heated.
- 16:05Speaker 12: Same time, she said, I think Matt is mentally ill.
- 16:12Speaker 2: She's and then the.
- 16:13Speaker 12: Same day, we aren't talking reference to your relationship.
- 16:18Speaker 4: We're not talking through the monc episod.
- 16:19Speaker 15: We're not talking.
- 16:22Speaker 8: And she said, I wanna talk about him or rather
- 16:25Speaker 8: focus on the future. By the way, mac up really
- 16:29Speaker 8: joint classness was the February By the way, macup really
- 16:33Speaker 8: joint class night said some things I don't think he
- 16:35Speaker 8: can take back. I'm fine, I'm pretty sure we are
- 16:37Speaker 8: not going.
- 16:37Speaker 5: To stay together.
- 16:41Speaker 3: What did you say?
- 16:42Speaker 9: I mean we we would argue about me that I
- 16:46Speaker 9: don't I would.
- 16:46Speaker 4: Did anythink that it would say?
- 16:48Speaker 12: What was it that you said? I think she was
- 16:50Speaker 12: that what we did? And she focused on one thing.
- 16:55Speaker 12: Ye know, Matt take to play against his april.
- 16:59Speaker 9: This is apparently can accused me of kicking guys.
- 17:02Speaker 5: Okay, but this was this was a month ago.
- 17:04Speaker 8: Okay, this isn't even good.
- 17:06Speaker 12: This man picked to flight with me yesterday and said
- 17:09Speaker 12: some awful things.
- 17:10Speaker 4: I'm not wearing my wedding ring.
- 17:14Speaker 8: That doesn't sound like somebody who's in a happy relationship.
- 17:17Speaker 7: If I don't.
- 17:18Speaker 12: My wife tected death to somebody a month ago.
- 17:21Speaker 5: I get it.
- 17:22Speaker 3: I don't.
- 17:22Speaker 9: I'm not going to say that that those things. Of course,
- 17:25Speaker 9: there wasn't a roller coaster relationship, but it wasn't like
- 17:28Speaker 9: anything that was anything you would think that someone would
- 17:32Speaker 9: hurt something.
- 17:32Speaker 4: It just would.
- 17:34Speaker 8: I'm not. I'm just addressing the fact that you you
- 17:36Speaker 8: just hold me.
- 17:36Speaker 9: The last six months have been the lasting and not Yes, okay,
- 17:40Speaker 9: there have been levels about that, and you can check
- 17:43Speaker 9: a few other texts in they are super I love.
- 17:47Speaker 8: Okay you very much about there now and I hold.
- 17:51Speaker 4: Watch that would go away, that would really go.
- 17:54Speaker 12: Away with last for an you will you acknowledge that
- 17:57Speaker 12: that's some pretty happy ship when your wife said, up
- 17:59Speaker 12: took my I don't think we're going to be to gather.
- 18:08Speaker 3: In mid September, nearly four months after Emily had gone missing,
- 18:12Speaker 3: two hikers who were part of a search party discovered
- 18:14Speaker 3: a body in a wooded area not far from the
- 18:17Speaker 3: bike paths that Emily loved to walk. Police reported at
- 18:21Speaker 3: the time that the area had been previously searched on
- 18:23Speaker 3: no less than three separate occasions. At least once with
- 18:27Speaker 3: cadaver dogs, and somehow nothing was found. It was later
- 18:31Speaker 3: revealed that the paths nearby had been combed and cadaverdogs
- 18:34Speaker 3: had walked along the woodline, but the area itself had
- 18:38Speaker 3: not actually been entered to search. Dental records suggested that
- 18:42Speaker 3: it was Emily that had been found, but due to
- 18:45Speaker 3: the time that had passed, full DNA testing was required
- 18:48Speaker 3: to be certain.
- 18:50Speaker 16: WPDS going to continue to conduct our investigation to try
- 18:53Speaker 16: to figure out.
- 18:55Speaker 4: How the body got.
- 18:56Speaker 16: In the location that did on Callyline Road. There's still
- 18:59Speaker 16: a lot of work to be done. We do not
- 19:03Speaker 16: have an autopsy report yet to actually even give us
- 19:05Speaker 16: the cause of death.
- 19:08Speaker 3: A few weeks later, DNA testing confirmed that the remains
- 19:11Speaker 3: were those of Emily Noble. She had been found hanged.
- 19:15Speaker 3: It was an apparent suicide. It appeared that she had
- 19:18Speaker 3: brought a plastic USB cord with her to the woods
- 19:21Speaker 3: for this purpose. A water bottle was found laying next
- 19:24Speaker 3: to her on the ground. It had been filled with alcohol.
- 19:27Speaker 3: Her vape pen had fallen from her hand to her
- 19:30Speaker 3: left hand side on the ground. Emily had been left handed.
- 19:35Speaker 3: To those who knew Emily her death felt eerily similar
- 19:38Speaker 3: to and maybe even symbolic of one from only ten
- 19:42Speaker 3: months earlier. Emily's eighteen year old stepson, Joey, had died
- 19:47Speaker 3: in the woods and in the same manner. Emily was
- 19:50Speaker 3: no stranger to loss. Her first marriage had ended when
- 19:53Speaker 3: her husband, Mark, a musician who had battled with depression,
- 19:57Speaker 3: had ended his own life. His actions had come as
- 20:00Speaker 3: a complete shock to her. Roughly three years later, Emily
- 20:03Speaker 3: would lose her mother in a fatal car accident, followed
- 20:06Speaker 3: by her father to illness, both within the span of
- 20:09Speaker 3: twelve months. The first autopsy report, performed by the Montgomery
- 20:16Speaker 3: County Coroner determined only that Emily had died from multiple
- 20:20Speaker 3: injuries of the head and neck. The formal cause of
- 20:23Speaker 3: death was not determined. Law enforcement took these basic findings
- 20:27Speaker 3: and began to dig deeper.
- 20:30Speaker 11: We asked for the help of the Ohio State University
- 20:32Speaker 11: Skeletal Biology Research Lab. They provide a thorough report of
- 20:36Speaker 11: their findings that included multiple facial fractures and multiple neck
- 20:40Speaker 11: fractures that Emily suffered. We then provided our entire case file,
- 20:45Speaker 11: the OSU report, and all the information that we were
- 20:48Speaker 11: able to gather in this case to a strangulation expert,
- 20:51Speaker 11: His findings were very clear. He said that this was
- 20:54Speaker 11: clearly a homicide based on the injuries that were sustained
- 20:57Speaker 11: and the mechanism of those injuries. He also gave his
- 21:01Speaker 11: opinion that her body was staged to appear as though
- 21:03Speaker 11: it was a suicide. In his opinion, that was absolutely
- 21:06Speaker 11: not the case.
- 21:09Speaker 3: It was the theory of the Westerville police that matt
- 21:11Speaker 3: had returned home with Emily on the night of her
- 21:13Speaker 3: birthday sometime shortly before eight pm, as he had claimed,
- 21:17Speaker 3: but then they said sometime between nine pm and one
- 21:20Speaker 3: am he had killed her. The scene in the woods,
- 21:24Speaker 3: just off a path, the one that he had been
- 21:26Speaker 3: directing them towards, must have been staged. Their expert claimed
- 21:30Speaker 3: that there was no way that Emily had sustained the
- 21:33Speaker 3: injuries to her neck from the USB court. Almost as
- 21:36Speaker 3: soon as matt had finished with the attempted cover up,
- 21:39Speaker 3: police said, he then tried to curate the image of
- 21:42Speaker 3: a worried husband. He called her best friend, He texted
- 21:46Speaker 3: and called family members. He spoke extensively with police. Matthew
- 21:52Speaker 3: Moore was arrested during a traffic stop in late September.
- 21:56Speaker 3: The previous day, he had been indicted by a Delaware
- 21:58Speaker 3: County grand jury on two distinct accounts of murder and
- 22:02Speaker 3: one of bolonious assault.
- 22:04Speaker 9: You're head, do not.
- 22:08Speaker 7: Guess, sir, it's really courtnick.
- 22:11Speaker 10: On your hands out this way.
- 22:12Speaker 16: Matt belts on on that.
- 22:14Speaker 17: Just listen to what you're being told, all right, take that.
- 22:18Speaker 10: On, do your There's no way this is a mistake.
- 22:21Speaker 10: Like Matt wanted to say, we knew he did this
- 22:25Speaker 10: from the beginning, his family or our family and friends.
- 22:30Speaker 10: We just bit our tongue and let the officers do
- 22:33Speaker 10: what they needed to do, and we knew this was
- 22:36Speaker 10: going to be the outcome that he was going to
- 22:38Speaker 10: be arrested, and hopefully it will follow through and he
- 22:43Speaker 10: will serve time in jail, hopefully a lifetime.
- 22:49Speaker 3: In a pre trial hearing in June twenty twenty one,
- 22:52Speaker 3: prosecutors told the court that Emily had been severely beaten
- 22:55Speaker 3: before her death and had sustained multiple injuries to her neck.
- 22:59Speaker 3: The actual fature of her injuries would be later disputed
- 23:01Speaker 3: at trial, but in the meantime, Matt was held on
- 23:04Speaker 3: a two point five million dollar bond. His trial commenced
- 23:08Speaker 3: in August twenty twenty two. Immediately following the swearing in
- 23:12Speaker 3: of the jury, all members were taken on a trip
- 23:15Speaker 3: to the exact location where Emily had been found. The
- 23:18Speaker 3: walk took them roughly ten feet from a very busy road,
- 23:21Speaker 3: across a bike path, and into some dense woodland. To
- 23:25Speaker 3: reach one side of the foraging area to the other
- 23:27Speaker 3: required crouching or even crawling under and between various plants, shrubs, trees,
- 23:33Speaker 3: and underbrush. The location raised questions about the plausibility of
- 23:38Speaker 3: the murder. Could Matt have carried Emily to this location
- 23:41Speaker 3: in order to stage the scene? Was that reasonable? The
- 23:47Speaker 3: States case hinged upon the testimony of the medical expert,
- 23:50Speaker 3: doctor Bill Smock, who found that Emily's death was the
- 23:53Speaker 3: result of a homicide. They also presented texts showing that
- 23:57Speaker 3: Emily had been making future plans. I've been in contact
- 24:00Speaker 3: with her dentist for a cleaning, for instance. Were these
- 24:04Speaker 3: the actions of someone who was planning to no longer
- 24:06Speaker 3: be around? The prosecution also highlighted the inconsistencies in Matt's
- 24:11Speaker 3: statements times where they believe he was caught in a
- 24:14Speaker 3: lie and attempting to cover his actions. Phone records showed
- 24:17Speaker 3: him texting friends between one am and four am on
- 24:20Speaker 3: the night of the alleged murder. Then around noon, he
- 24:23Speaker 3: used an app on his phone to try to locate
- 24:25Speaker 3: Emily's phone, which was in the other room of the
- 24:28Speaker 3: home in a eight hundred square foot condo. Matt chose
- 24:32Speaker 3: to use an app instead of getting out of bed
- 24:34Speaker 3: and just looking for her. Doctor Smock conducted his forensic
- 24:39Speaker 3: analysis using reports from the coroner, anthropologist, and crime scene photos.
- 24:44Speaker 3: The doctor testified that the crime scene was staged and
- 24:47Speaker 3: that Emily Noble died of manual strangulation. There were four
- 24:51Speaker 3: fractures on her neck identified, as well as breakage to
- 24:54Speaker 3: her nose. According to doctor Smock, the nature of the
- 24:58Speaker 3: damage to her neck could not been caused by the hanging.
- 25:01Speaker 3: It was simply unheard of, which meant the way she
- 25:04Speaker 3: was found did not reflect the way she had died.
- 25:09Speaker 15: Reviewing those crime scenes, you consider the totality of.
- 25:12Speaker 3: All of the evidence that's correct.
- 25:15Speaker 15: And what additional factors besides the literature, the sides of
- 25:22Speaker 15: the four fractures in the neck, besides her age and
- 25:27Speaker 15: way did you consider.
- 25:29Speaker 6: I considered the nature of the scene. I considered the
- 25:35Speaker 6: fact that she had an additional fracture of her nose
- 25:40Speaker 6: at the edge of the nose, that the injuries that
- 25:47Speaker 6: she sustained were not from a ligature. The type of
- 25:54Speaker 6: injuries that Emily has in her neck, the four here
- 25:58Speaker 6: are the type of injuries that you see with manual strangulation,
- 26:02Speaker 6: not with the ligature. Doesn't exist in the medical literature,
- 26:07Speaker 6: never a reported case anywhere. Looking at that medical.
- 26:12Speaker 18: Literature of thousands, more than a thousand cases studied by
- 26:16Speaker 18: forensic pathologists around the world in women less than hundred
- 26:20Speaker 18: and ten pounds, it doesn't exist in an incomplete kneeling position.
- 26:26Speaker 6: That's the totality of the evidence.
- 26:31Speaker 3: In rebuttal, the defense called doctor Heather Garvin, professor of
- 26:34Speaker 3: anatomy at the Des Moines Medical University. Her finding suggested
- 26:39Speaker 3: that hanging should not be ruled out as a possible
- 26:41Speaker 3: cause of death. Doctor Garvin pointed to a study that
- 26:44Speaker 3: showed that up to ten percent of hanging cases showed
- 26:47Speaker 3: the same bilateral neck fractures that doctor Smock claimed could
- 26:51Speaker 3: not have been caused in this manner, to.
- 26:55Speaker 19: A statement that doctor Smock made under what he casts,
- 27:00Speaker 19: but that there is absolutely no literature supporting that a
- 27:07Speaker 19: hundred pound woman could have the four fractures and.
- 27:13Speaker 2: From a hang, What, if any opinion do you have with.
- 27:17Speaker 1: Respect to that statement.
- 27:20Speaker 17: Well, it's obvious that there is at least one article,
- 27:23Speaker 17: uh if not more, indicating that this fracture pattern can
- 27:27Speaker 17: occur with hanging. While it may not specifically have a
- 27:31Speaker 17: hundred pound fifty two year old woman, there's lots of
- 27:35Speaker 17: things regarding the scenario. And I mean there's ligatures, there's health,
- 27:39Speaker 17: there's bone density, There's a lot of different factors that
- 27:43Speaker 17: go in. I would not be comfortable saying that this
- 27:46Speaker 17: could not happen, given that it does.
- 27:51Speaker 3: Even the timing of the murder was brought into question.
- 27:53Speaker 3: The state's theory that Matt had committed the murder overnight
- 27:57Speaker 3: and staged the scene before returning home in the morning
- 28:00Speaker 3: was supported, they said, by the flashlight that was left
- 28:02Speaker 3: sitting out next to the orange extension cord in the garage.
- 28:06Speaker 3: According to the state, Matt had cleverly drawn attention to
- 28:10Speaker 3: the placement of the cord, but he had errored in
- 28:13Speaker 3: also leaving out in playing view the very tool that
- 28:16Speaker 3: had enabled him to stage the supposed murder in the darkness.
- 28:21Speaker 3: But there was evidence that Emily was still alive. On
- 28:24Speaker 3: the morning of the twenty fifth, John Kramer, the couple's
- 28:27Speaker 3: former neighbor from directly across the street, told Sergeant Hollis
- 28:30Speaker 3: that he saw Emily leave for a walk at around
- 28:33Speaker 3: nine to ten am on the day she was reported missing.
- 28:36Speaker 3: They had a brief exchange of pleasantries. She seemed fine,
- 28:39Speaker 3: he said. At least, that was the statement John Kramer
- 28:42Speaker 3: provided to Sergeant Hollis on the day that he responded
- 28:45Speaker 3: to Matt's nine one one call. This information was received
- 28:49Speaker 3: later that day by Matt with some relief. It meant
- 28:52Speaker 3: that Emily could be just fine. She had just left
- 28:54Speaker 3: for a walk that morning. But John later retracted his
- 28:57Speaker 3: statement at trial. He claimed that due to his age,
- 29:01Speaker 3: he may have been confused. Perhaps it was the day
- 29:03Speaker 3: before that he had seen Emily, he suggested. The only
- 29:07Speaker 3: problem is that Emily's cell phone records placed her an
- 29:09Speaker 3: hour and a half drive away from her home at
- 29:12Speaker 3: nine thirty a m. On the day before. The exchange
- 29:15Speaker 3: that John and Emily had therefore was almost certainly as
- 29:19Speaker 3: he had originally stated, on the morning of her disappearance.
- 29:24Speaker 3: In closing arguments, the prosecution summarized the facts as they
- 29:28Speaker 3: presented them, the death was a homicide. Evidence that may
- 29:32Speaker 3: appear to clear him, like text messages and the bodycam footage,
- 29:36Speaker 3: in fact only showed Matt's clever attempts to cover up
- 29:39Speaker 3: the crime.
- 29:44Speaker 5: This is a staged suicide scene. Who on planet Earth
- 29:52Speaker 5: would have an incentive to stage a suicide other than
- 29:56Speaker 5: the defend random unknown suspect the Westerville strangler who's manually
- 30:08Speaker 5: strangling women in the woods wouldn't take the time, the effort,
- 30:17Speaker 5: the care to stage a suicide will would be the point.
- 30:22Speaker 5: And I was laying in bed and instead of getting
- 30:24Speaker 5: off the couch and talking to my wife about our
- 30:26Speaker 5: plans for the day, I texted her, Uh, are we
- 30:30Speaker 5: going to this party or what? And an eight hundred
- 30:34Speaker 5: square foot condo, Hey, are we going to this party
- 30:39Speaker 5: or what? And then what's he do? Hits that find
- 30:45Speaker 5: my iPhone? App right, because that'll give you. Look Now,
- 30:49Speaker 5: when I pull out my phone records if anybody ever
- 30:51Speaker 5: looks at it, see I cent her this text. I
- 30:53Speaker 5: didn't know where she was and I didn't find my iPhone.
- 30:57Speaker 5: At the end, Officer Hollis and the defendant are standing
- 31:01Speaker 5: out in the driveway and he says, maybe I'm crazy,
- 31:07Speaker 5: but you just got to come look at this. He
- 31:10Speaker 5: leads him right there. He wants Officer Hollis to see it.
- 31:13Speaker 5: And look, here's this orange cord. My wife must have
- 31:18Speaker 5: been looking for something to hang herself.
- 31:23Speaker 3: The defense questioned whether phone data indicated anything more than
- 31:27Speaker 3: the ups and downs of a regular marriage. There was
- 31:29Speaker 3: no hatred expressed, nothing terribly harsh or abusive. These messages
- 31:34Speaker 3: did not constitute a motive. There was no motive. There was, however,
- 31:39Speaker 3: evidence of Emily's poor mental state in the months before
- 31:43Speaker 3: her death.
- 31:44Speaker 1: Twenty four years over one hundred and fifty jury trials,
- 31:47Speaker 1: I've never had a harder closing argument than this, because, honestly,
- 31:51Speaker 1: and most I've got evidence to attack this case is
- 31:57Speaker 1: totally speculation.
- 31:59Speaker 2: That doesn't go into the woods and search for her,
- 32:02Speaker 2: and so that inference should lead you to the fact
- 32:05Speaker 2: that he didn't want to find her, and that should
- 32:07Speaker 2: lead you to the fact that he killed her. And
- 32:10Speaker 2: this is common sense of relationships and in divorce, and
- 32:13Speaker 2: those that stay together, well, I submit that some of
- 32:16Speaker 2: them shouldn't, and.
- 32:16Speaker 1: Those that do probably argue every once in a while.
- 32:19Speaker 3: Here's my point.
- 32:20Speaker 2: When you look through these text messages with respect to
- 32:24Speaker 2: divorce or not wanting to be together or those kind
- 32:27Speaker 2: of things. The only time divorce is mentioned is when
- 32:29Speaker 2: matt says, if you want to divorce me, leave me,
- 32:33Speaker 2: just tell me. Never in here and you heard me.
- 32:36Speaker 2: Ask the detective, does he say I hate you, I
- 32:39Speaker 2: want you dead, I'm going to kill you, I will
- 32:42Speaker 2: hurt you. Nothing.
- 32:45Speaker 1: Please read them because the.
- 32:48Speaker 2: Truth is and you'll see in the counseling records that
- 32:51Speaker 2: Emily had a history of depression and anxiety, that she
- 32:55Speaker 2: had struggled with prior loss and trauma. Look through the
- 33:00Speaker 2: records and see how many times you see the word
- 33:02Speaker 2: tra and loss and grief and sadness.
- 33:08Speaker 3: Defense counsel Diane ma Nashi further questioned the state's theory
- 33:12Speaker 3: of the crime, including the last minute shift made in
- 33:15Speaker 3: the state's closing argument that the murder actually took place
- 33:18Speaker 3: in the woods and not in the house as they
- 33:20Speaker 3: had initially submitted. Furthermore, Manashi argued that Matthew Moore was
- 33:25Speaker 3: simply not the criminal mastermind that he would have needed
- 33:28Speaker 3: to be to pull this off. Manashi compared her client
- 33:31Speaker 3: to a child, not a criminal genius.
- 33:35Speaker 2: They come home from the bar, Emily changes to get
- 33:39Speaker 2: ready for her walk because she's wearing her walking clothes,
- 33:42Speaker 2: and then Matt follows her for an unknown reason. And
- 33:48Speaker 2: we don't know if he's, according to the state's theory,
- 33:50Speaker 2: changed his clothes or not, but we certainly know what
- 33:52Speaker 2: he was wearing at the bar. They have that shirt,
- 33:56Speaker 2: no burrs, no scratches, no rips.
- 33:59Speaker 3: No blood.
- 34:00Speaker 2: Remember that question about might you have a fracture in
- 34:02Speaker 2: the nose? If you have blood from a fracture in
- 34:04Speaker 2: the nose, nothing and the sure from the criminal mastermind
- 34:12Speaker 2: is in the hamper. That the hamper and still not wash.
- 34:18Speaker 2: Let's talk last thing about Matt Moore.
- 34:21Speaker 15: We heard a lot.
- 34:21Speaker 1: I guess the usual suspects.
- 34:23Speaker 2: He's a mastermind. He's the same guy and we're all
- 34:26Speaker 2: if we're not parents, we're siblings and we're children. And
- 34:31Speaker 2: he's the same guy that's writing out a statement and
- 34:33Speaker 2: asks how you spell the word couch, he asks how
- 34:37Speaker 2: you spell memorial, and that I'm sorry, I don't mean
- 34:41Speaker 2: to be disrespectful. But he's the same guy that reads
- 34:45Speaker 2: while he's writing. When he's writing, he's reading what he's writing.
- 34:48Speaker 2: And we all know, as people that have been around shoulder.
- 34:50Speaker 2: What that means it's this same man though that would
- 34:55Speaker 2: be able to stage a scene, figure out to put
- 34:59Speaker 2: the alcohol water bottle, put the bagpen next to her.
- 35:03Speaker 2: Because she's left hand dominant, would tie her shoes so
- 35:06Speaker 2: tight that they.
- 35:07Speaker 1: Wouldn't come off.
- 35:09Speaker 2: Oh that the branch is taller than six y three
- 35:12Speaker 2: sixty four.
- 35:12Speaker 3: We know that the.
- 35:14Speaker 2: Cord is slung over the branch. It's not not at
- 35:20Speaker 2: at the top. And if you're going to actually see
- 35:23Speaker 2: age a suicide and hang someone from a branch and
- 35:25Speaker 2: you're six feet tall and the branch is like right here,
- 35:30Speaker 2: you nodded to make sure.
- 35:31Speaker 6: It stays up.
- 35:31Speaker 2: Don't you look at that she flung it over.
- 35:39Speaker 3: The jury deliberated for less than three hours before returning
- 35:42Speaker 3: their verdict.
- 35:45Speaker 13: Verdict on count one, we, the jury ving Dullian, Pennell Sworn,
- 35:49Speaker 13: find the defendant Matthew Elmore, not guilty of murder as
- 35:53Speaker 13: he stands charged in count one of the indictment dated
- 35:57Speaker 13: the twenty sixth of August twenty twenty two, signed by
- 36:01Speaker 13: all twelve members of the panel. Verdict on count two, we,
- 36:07Speaker 13: the jury being Dulian, Pannel and Sworn, find the defendant
- 36:09Speaker 13: Matthew Elmore not guilty of murder as he stands charge
- 36:13Speaker 13: in count two of the indictment dated to twenty six
- 36:17Speaker 13: August twenty twenty two, and signed an ink by all
- 36:21Speaker 13: twelve members of the panel. I think from day one
- 36:27Speaker 13: everyone's wanted justice for your wife, Emily, and I've heard
- 36:31Speaker 13: that phrase a lot. I think everyone truly desires that,
- 36:35Speaker 13: But I think the jury has also said justice for
- 36:38Speaker 13: family is not in justice for you, and they reaffirmed that.
- 36:45Speaker 3: Jurors later told the press that not one of them
- 36:47Speaker 3: had pushed for a guilty verdict in their discussion. The
- 36:50Speaker 3: bodycam foot had shown to them on the first day
- 36:52Speaker 3: of the trial set the tone. No one believed that
- 36:55Speaker 3: Matthew Moore was putting on a show, and the prosecution
- 36:58Speaker 3: never gave them a reason to doubt that. Some of
- 37:01Speaker 3: the jury questioned whether the death was a homicide at all,
- 37:04Speaker 3: while others believed it was, but regardless, there was nothing
- 37:08Speaker 3: that proved Matthew Moore had anything to do with it.
- 37:15Speaker 3: I'm Kevin, this is just thought lounge, and I'll see
- 37:18Speaker 3: in the next one.