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O'Brien & Doug Ep163 [August 31, 2023 Let Doug Smell Your Sweater!] · O'Brien & Doug

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  unknown: It's ridiculous.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's preposterous.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's ludicrous.
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  SPEAKER_01: My God, it's impetuous.
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  SPEAKER_05: The O'Brien and Duck Podcast is brought to you in part by Mojarmultimedia.com.
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  SPEAKER_05: JH Music in Briscoe Maine.
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  SPEAKER_05: The Ridge Runner in Westfield, Maine.
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  SPEAKER_00: And my cousin, Larry.
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  unknown: Who?
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  SPEAKER_08: Larry.
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  SPEAKER_08: Oh, Larry.
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  SPEAKER_08: Oh, I love them.
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  SPEAKER_08: Because without them, we would never have lasted 35 years on CBS.
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  SPEAKER_05: Welcome to the O'Brien and Doug podcast.
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  SPEAKER_05: I'm O'Brien.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm King Charles the Eighth.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um Charles VIII.
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  SPEAKER_00: Formerly known as Prince.
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  SPEAKER_00: Prince.
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  SPEAKER_00: The artist formerly known as Prince.
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  SPEAKER_00: Wait, that was Michael Jackson.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, Prince used that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh no, Prince always did that.
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  unknown: Ew!
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  SPEAKER_00: That sounded that sounded like it hurt.
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  SPEAKER_00: I actually did hurt a little bit.
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  SPEAKER_05: Not as young as it used to be.
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  SPEAKER_05: Let's see.
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  SPEAKER_05: Episode uh 163.
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  SPEAKER_05: 163.
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  SPEAKER_05: 163.
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  SPEAKER_05: And uh let's see, before we get any further, I have to get this off my chest.
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  SPEAKER_05: Because I've been looking for this song since my vacation.
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  SPEAKER_05: Right.
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  SPEAKER_05: I finally found it.
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  SPEAKER_05: You weren't obsessing over it.
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  SPEAKER_05: I wasn't obsessing over it.
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  SPEAKER_05: I I think I was just, and I I think I knew who the artist was, but I couldn't think of the name of the song.
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  SPEAKER_05: I suppose I could have just looked up the artist, and I I was right about the artist, actually.
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  SPEAKER_05: So my point is I guess I don't mind tributes.
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  SPEAKER_05: You know, like one could say that Cole Swindell's and it's mostly country music that does it.
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  SPEAKER_05: Uh Cole Swindell's uh song that we talked about, um Heads Carolina, Tales California, uh was a tribute to Jody Messina's song.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean he included the song in the song.
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  SPEAKER_05: Right.
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  SPEAKER_05: He included the song in the song.
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  SPEAKER_05: I mean it's the same chord progression, really.
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  SPEAKER_05: I mean it's the same song.
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  SPEAKER_05: They just rewrote the words.
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  SPEAKER_05: And I mean there's Jake Owen did a song um that I don't know you could say it was j a tribute.
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  SPEAKER_05: Uh did you ever hear that song?
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  SPEAKER_05: Um I have no idea what you're talking about.
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  SPEAKER_05: Uh you have no idea what I'm talking about?
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't even really I honestly don't even really know who Jake Owen is.
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  SPEAKER_05: Well he's another country singer.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh of course he is.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um because I'm so familiar with them.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know.
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  SPEAKER_00: There are there's a there are diamond dozen now.
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  SPEAKER_05: They are, and they all kind of sound what just happened.
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  SPEAKER_05: What just happened to my um screen?
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  SPEAKER_05: That is not good.
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  SPEAKER_05: Let's see if we can restart this movie.
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  SPEAKER_05: Because my screen just went completely blank, and that's never a good thing.
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  SPEAKER_05: It's the government.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_05: Um anyway.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yep, no, I know that.
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  SPEAKER_05: That's because I restarted it.
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  SPEAKER_05: Because hopefully all the all my uh all my tabs that I just had open for the for the podcast and they're all gone.
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  SPEAKER_05: Hopefully they come back.
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  SPEAKER_05: They're gone.
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  SPEAKER_05: Usually they come back.
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  SPEAKER_05: Gone for good.
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  SPEAKER_00: Usually usually we're they're never to be seen again.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're in good shape.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just like just like the Titanic and uh uh Apollo 13 and you know never to be seen again.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, we're gonna we've seen well, we've seen the Titanic and Apollo 13 made it back, so that's not actually a good uh Oh, it could be like uh uh who who was it that just sent a rover to Mars and it crashed.
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  SPEAKER_00: Was it India?
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  SPEAKER_05: Let's see, let's see if my password will work for this password is I can't tell you that.
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  SPEAKER_00: URATool.com.
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  SPEAKER_00: How did you know that?
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  SPEAKER_00: That's my password.
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  SPEAKER_00: I got you.
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  SPEAKER_05: Let's see, let's see if it's my password for everything, so go ahead.
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  SPEAKER_05: If it's going to uh bring up Oh, all my tabs are there.
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  SPEAKER_05: Okay, that's good.
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  SPEAKER_05: Good sign.
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  SPEAKER_05: Okay, so what was uh so you have the Jody Messina thing, and then you had this song.
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  SPEAKER_05: I don't know if you've ever heard this song.
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  SPEAKER_02: It was yesterday, it was years ago.
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  SPEAKER_02: We were singing every word on the radio.
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  SPEAKER_02: Kinda like them songs Stay Live Souls, some house some way.
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  SPEAKER_11: Yeah, okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: Blue Jean Halo hanging off the limb.
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  SPEAKER_02: Two American kids just like them every time you play.
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  SPEAKER_03: Close your eyes just to make it laugh, do the memories, take it back.
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  SPEAKER_03: Just make the packs and shit is dying.
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  SPEAKER_05: Way back when I was Jack, when you die in So they include I mean it's a song based around that song.
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  SPEAKER_05: Right.
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  SPEAKER_05: They're remembering that song and how it made them feel and stuff like that.
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  SPEAKER_05: And it's I kinda I kinda get that.
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  SPEAKER_05: You know, I the same thing with Jody Messina's song.
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  SPEAKER_05: Right.
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  SPEAKER_05: Um back when I heard Heads Carolina, Tales California, whatever it was.
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  SPEAKER_05: I get that.
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  SPEAKER_05: Uh I don't like this song.
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  SPEAKER_05: Um just bec I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_05: I I don't I just don't like the song.
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  SPEAKER_05: Just on general principle.
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  SPEAKER_05: Just on general principle, right.
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  SPEAKER_05: Um but I heard this song on vacation.
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  SPEAKER_05: It came on the radio, and this is the one I was telling you about a couple episodes ago where where I just kind of freaked out, and my wife was like, What, what, what, what's wrong?
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  SPEAKER_05: I said, Write your own stupid song, and she's like, Are you kidding me?
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  SPEAKER_05: Right, right.
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  SPEAKER_05: She did she did her typical uh yeah, you're an idiot.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, exactly.
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  SPEAKER_05: Right.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, which I get all the time.
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  SPEAKER_08: He's gonna Chevrolet that don't always run and the radio never turns down.
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  SPEAKER_08: He's gonna greet That's no good for nothing, no commas in his bank account.
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  SPEAKER_08: But there's a girl at the home animal to place.
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  SPEAKER_08: Don't take her out on the state, she doesn't go to the land.
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  SPEAKER_08: It's important now, we're in the party.
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  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_05: So that is um That's a song from the 80s.
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  SPEAKER_05: No, it's from the 70s.
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  SPEAKER_05: Oh it's David Bowie.
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  SPEAKER_05: Oh, that's what it is.
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  SPEAKER_05: It's Rebel Rebel.
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  SPEAKER_05: I mean, the whole song is based around this riff.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: I knew as soon as I heard that riff, I was like, I know that song.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: And and and so as soon as I heard that on the radio, I'm like, are you kidding me?
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you didn't have that begs the question.
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  SPEAKER_00: Is country the new rap?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, if it's the new rap, but it's definitely I mean, you know, sampling other people's things.
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  SPEAKER_00: Unoriginal.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know?
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  SPEAKER_05: Um, you could that could have that song could have existed, I think, without this riff.
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  SPEAKER_05: You could have written that song and and either had a different riff, or I mean, I know it's it's that old adage, that old record company adage where it's like, if it was a hit once, it can be a hit again.
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  SPEAKER_05: You know, and it's you know it's bringing something familiar into something new so that people will like it.
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  SPEAKER_05: You know, I'm against it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I I yeah I but I wonder if it's like that Ed Sheeran thing that he just went through not too long ago when he used to be.
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  SPEAKER_05: Well no, they obviously they had to get permission to use this.
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  SPEAKER_05: I hope so.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I will I'll obviously.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was gonna say, because that Jake Owen one, you know, with the Jack and Diane.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm pretty sure that if he had taken it, John Mellencamp would have just like went up one side of him and down the other.
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  SPEAKER_05: Right.
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  SPEAKER_05: They had to go to the publisher and get permission to use it, obviously.
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  SPEAKER_05: Um, but I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_05: You know, it's it's just to me, it's like I know there's the the old saying that everything's been done.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: I don't think that's true.
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  SPEAKER_05: I mean, I think there's there's I mean, I think you can put your own spin on things without without and I'm not saying he's they stole the riff.
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  SPEAKER_05: No.
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  SPEAKER_05: I I think they put it in there for familiar familiarity purposes to boost the song.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but it's it's it's it's for a new country.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, they're not they haven't even listened to Bowie.
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  SPEAKER_05: Well Chris Young is probably in his mid to late thirties.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so he wouldn't know.
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  SPEAKER_05: But he knows who Bowie is.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm sure he does.
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  SPEAKER_00: If he doesn't, then he shouldn't be in music.
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  SPEAKER_00: But you know.
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  SPEAKER_05: But I think we we underestimate how far classic rock reaches.
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  SPEAKER_05: I think you know what I mean?
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  SPEAKER_05: I think even the young kids, because I mean, look at my kids.
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  SPEAKER_05: My kids love the Beatles and they love all that old stuff.
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  SPEAKER_05: You know, of course, I'm in the Star City Syndicate, so they Well, they're kind of forced into it.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, is it it's it's you know n it's not of their own volition.
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  SPEAKER_00: True.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, you're you're you they're exposed to it because it's but it's played here.
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  SPEAKER_05: But it's also not the not only is it played here, but marketing TV ads, they all use they use old music, right?
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  SPEAKER_05: And and this generation is a Spotify generation.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_00: So they're they're a look at um look at uh Rosemary uh wherever.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_00: Love Girls from my Rosemary Girls.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_00: I was on TikTok and everybody went lost their minds.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like, well that song's been around you know for Right, like 1974 or something like that, whatever.
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  SPEAKER_00: But that uh uh remember that dude on the skateboard and Dreams?
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_00: Dreams, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Everybody was like, oh my god, and I'm like how do you you never heard this song?
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_05: Look at the popularity of the Guardians of the Galaxy soundtracks.
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  SPEAKER_05: Oh, I know, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: You know, that's all old stuff.
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  SPEAKER_05: Well most of it.
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  SPEAKER_05: Most of it anyway.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: Uh and people love that stuff.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: You know, so uh I get I I get it.
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  SPEAKER_05: Um you're bringing old and and and and and putting it into something new.
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  SPEAKER_05: Maybe I'm just w what did what did you say the couple weeks ago?
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  SPEAKER_05: You're the crotchetier.
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  SPEAKER_05: I'm taking crotchety to hold the crotch, right?
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  SPEAKER_05: Because I feel like a crotchety old man, but it's like as a songwriter, I'm like, I could have done without that.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_00: I could have done it.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, I get that.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, I could have been you just write your own riff.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_00: Well, maybe that's what you should do from Rowan.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just take riffs and just write songs right now.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just sample all old songs and put new words on them.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then it'll be and you'll be huge.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then but just put it on TikTok.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you'll be a multi-billionaire.
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  SPEAKER_05: I'm not even on TikTok.
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  SPEAKER_05: I I refuse to be on TikTok.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, TikTok is of the devil.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_00: It is.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I mean, you know.
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  SPEAKER_05: Most of that stuff is, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: I agree.
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  SPEAKER_05: You know.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_05: Uh I agree.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_05: Um and before we get to your bit, because you had an idea of what we could talk about.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um I want to talk that wasn't really my idea, but well, we'll we'll get to that.
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  SPEAKER_05: I want to talk about uh I don't want to talk about that.
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  SPEAKER_05: The late great The Late Great Bernie Marsden.
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  SPEAKER_05: I don't know if you know who Bernie Marsden was.
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  SPEAKER_05: I know the name, I don't really know Bernie Marsden was the original guitar player uh and songwriter for Whitesnake.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um I was talking about that the other day.
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  SPEAKER_05: You were?
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it was the same guy.
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  SPEAKER_00: He goes Oh.
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  SPEAKER_00: He goes, the the guitar player from Whitesnake died, and I went Doug Aldridge?
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  unknown: Right.
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  SPEAKER_05: There's a man's guitar players for White Snake.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, I don't I don't think that's his name, and then I had to look it up and I was like, oh.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: That guy.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that guy.
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  SPEAKER_05: Well, we had uh so you know, let's see, when you say when I say Whitesnake, you think of probably this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now is this the the the original version or is this the remixed version that came out later?
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  SPEAKER_00: There's two remixed versions.
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  SPEAKER_05: So this is from the 87 album.
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  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_05: This has Adrian Vandenberg on it.
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  SPEAKER_05: No, it doesn't.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yes, it does.
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  SPEAKER_05: No, it doesn't.
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  SPEAKER_05: It has John Sykes on guitar.
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  SPEAKER_05: Um this is the this is the one that everybody plays.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is the one everybody plays.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then there's you have the original, the original, the 83 version?
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_00: Hold on a second.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_00: I got a thing here.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_05: So they redid this.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_05: I'm doing a thing here.
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  SPEAKER_05: Adrian Vandenberg, Vivian Campbell, the band that was touring with him.
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  SPEAKER_05: They did another version, which is a little different than this.
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  SPEAKER_05: Right.
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  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_05: But what a lot of people don't know, and and thank you for jumping ahead, is uh Well, I didn't know where you were going.
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  SPEAKER_05: This is this I just anticipated.
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  SPEAKER_05: This is the original from 1982 from the Saints and Sinners album.
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  SPEAKER_05: Whole different lineup of Whitesnake, Bernie Marsden on guitar.
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  SPEAKER_05: Bernie Marsden actually helped write this song.
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  SPEAKER_09: I don't know where I'm going.
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  SPEAKER_05: And it's not like a drifter, it's like a hobo.
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  SPEAKER_05: Did you know that?
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  SPEAKER_09: But I sure know where I'm gonna be.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I think I think so.
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  SPEAKER_05: Let's just listen to it for just a second.
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  SPEAKER_05: It's not as bombastic, obviously, as the 87 version.
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  SPEAKER_05: It's more like the church lady's about to come out.
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  SPEAKER_05: Well, it's m I think it's more bluesy.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_05: You know, because Bernie Marston was a bluesy player.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_00: Well, this this organ part.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's true.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_00: Could it be Satan?
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, speaking of uh we weren't speaking of this, but David Coverdale on vocals, right?
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  SPEAKER_05: So our our friend who's not really our friend.
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  SPEAKER_05: We we love him to hate we love to hate him, Eddie Trunk.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, Eddie.
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  SPEAKER_05: How is Eddie?
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  SPEAKER_05: I listened to one of his episodes the other day, and he's just a crotchy little man, just like you and I.
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  SPEAKER_05: And I'll tell you why here in a second.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's that's that's the way it is.
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  SPEAKER_05: He's about ten years older than we are, but hold on.
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  SPEAKER_05: I don't know why.
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  SPEAKER_05: I almost like this version better.
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  SPEAKER_00: I I was just gonna say I like this one better.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like a hobo.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_05: So um, I'll get to the Eddie Trunk here thing here in a second.
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  SPEAKER_05: So you also know this song.
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  SPEAKER_09: Old Wednesday's burning with the fingers from 1987.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, the um 87 album.
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  SPEAKER_07: I will go with the stop review stop.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_05: Did you know that was a cover as well?
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  SPEAKER_05: From that same album.
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  SPEAKER_05: From David Coverdale.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_05: Uh oh, I'm sorry.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_05: No, it's not.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_05: It's not from Saints frame same album, 1982, Saints and Sinners.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_05: Yep, with Bernie Marson on guitar.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_05: This is the original.
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  SPEAKER_05: Crying in the rain.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_05: Again, very bluesy.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_09: Black Cotton Moes when he's burning with a fever.
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  SPEAKER_09: Straight of the balls when he's lonely in the night.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, I don't know which version I like better.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_05: I know, that's the thing.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_05: This is another Bernie Marson too.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_05: Ready and Willie.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_05: When they when when it was Bernie Marison and Cozy Powell on drums uh and that whole lineup, it was very bluesy.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_05: You know, very um, I don't know.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_05: So then the the 80s, the late 80s came and it was very slick and very positive.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_00: Well that was the new recording.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_00: It was.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_00: You know, the the new recording style.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_00: The whole like let's layer 87,000 guitars.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it was the it was the muttlang school of recording.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_00: You know?
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_05: Um hold on.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, so uh Rest in Peace.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_05: Bernie Mars.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_05: He was 72.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_00: Why though you're 79?
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_05: 72.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_05: Uh greatest vocalist.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_05: Alright, so I wanted to just touch on this just uh real quick because um Eddie Trunk was just beside himself with this uh with this list.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_05: Uh and I'm trying to find that list.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_05: Um it was Billboard Magazine, which is uh even more kind of disturbing that see now I can't even now I can't even find it.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_05: Uh is this it right here?
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_00: Well, while you're looking for that, I'm gonna tell you a story.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_00: Please do.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_00: Well, we had a gig Saturday.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, we did.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and we we did this without talking to each other, but we both wore football jerseys.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, we did.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_00: To the gig.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_00: You were wearing your uh Montana, Joe Montana, and I was wearing my Dante Hightower jersey.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I we over the weekend, there's a series called NFL Icons.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_00: And I was watching the Jerry Rice one.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_00: Because, you know, he's our guy.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_00: We love Jerry Rice.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_00: We love Jerry Rice.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_00: Did you know his first season, he was terrible.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_05: I did not know that.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely horrid.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_00: Drop passes everywhere.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_00: Okay?
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_00: All the time.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_00: Joe Montana did nothing but encourage him.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_00: Didn't didn't duberate him, didn't, you know, every time he dropped a pass, he wasn't like, ah, yeah, yeah.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_05: That doesn't surprise me.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_00: Every time he was like, dude, you know, you this is what you need to do.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_00: Then he got then he became the Jerry Rice that we all know and love and holds all the all the records for receiving an AFL.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_00: And will for eternity.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_00: But what I was watching was after that, he worked so hard on his catching.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if you'll notice this.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_00: But if you ever watch like reruns of, you know, like replays of Jerry Rice catching, every time he catches the ball, he catches the ball, he looks at it, he brings it into his chest, and he looks at it, and then he runs.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, okay.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_00: That's because that's after his that first horrible season, his rookie season, that is what he did.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_00: He every time he caught the ball, he would bring it down his chest, look at it, and then do anything else.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_00: But that was his every time.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_00: And it was really funny because I was watching uh he was at a Super Bowl.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_00: I can't remember which Super Bowl, it was just recently.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_00: And he had one of the quarterbacks from and he I mean, the dude's been retired for years.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_00: He still did the exact same thing.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_00: Caught the ball, looked, you know, brought it into his chest, looked at it, and then, you know, did everything else.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, that's just secure the ball.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, every every but every if you watch Jerry Rice after that, after his rookie season, he catches the ball, brings it into his chest, looks at it, and then you know, everything else.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_00: Every single time.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: That is single-minded focusedness.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm not sure focusedness is a word.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think so, but that's but I like it.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's my word for you, Jerry.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_00: Single-minded focus.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_00: It was just it's just amazing.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_00: Because then after because as I watched the program, you know, because I keep showing highlights of his career every single time.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_00: Catch, bring the chest, look, go.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_00: Every single time.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_00: And that's That's why he's the goat.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_05: He is the goat.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_05: So always will be.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_05: I don't care who's Okay.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_00: So anyway, that that was a little uh tangent.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_00: This tangent brought to you by Doug's brain.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_00: When you want when you when you want weirdness, go for Doug's brain.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_05: I'm going to just read this list rather quickly because I don't want to spend too much time on it.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_05: Um but I want to get your initial reaction to it because Eddie Trunk just lost his mind.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_05: Like in a bad way?
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_05: In a bad way.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um I can't see Eddie Trunk getting uh angry?
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_05: Angry.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_05: Oh.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_05: It wasn't angry, it was like it was baffled.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_05: It was like, are you freaking kidding?
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, okay.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_05: You know, and but he was like, and this is from Billboard magazine.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_05: They got together a bunch of people and they made a list of the 50 greatest rock singers of all time.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_00: This ought to be interesting.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_05: 50 greatest rock singers.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_05: And in order.
• 22:57
  unknown: Okay?
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_00: 50 to 1.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_05: So I'm gonna start from the top.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, and work down.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_00: You're you're gonna go.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_00: Number 50.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay, I gotcha.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_05: Zach De La Rocha, Rage Against the Machine.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_00: Not really rock, but okay.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_05: Ruben Albaron by Cap from Cafe Tacva.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_05: Tokvoba.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_05: No idea.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_05: Number 48, Dave Groll, Fool Fighters.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_05: 48?
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_05: It gets better.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_05: Uh Paul Westerberg from the replacements, 47.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_05: X-ray specs, Polystyrene, 46.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_05: Corey Glover of Living Color, 45.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_05: 45?
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_05: Get this.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_05: Number 44, ahead of Corey Glover.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_05: Jerry Garcia, The Grateful Dead.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_05: Wrong.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_05: Number 43, Courtney Love.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_05: Hole.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_05: So wrong.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_05: 42.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_05: Serge Tankian, System of a Down.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_05: 41, Liam Gallagher, Ale Oasis.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_05: 40, Brittany Howard, Alabama Shakes.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_05: Paul McCartney.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_05: The Beatles.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_05: 39.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_05: 39.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_05: 38.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_05: Better singer than Paul McCartney?
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_05: Iggy Pop.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_05: Are you freaking kidding me?
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_05: Better singer than Aggie Pop, Gwen Stefani.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_05: Number 37.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah, that I get it.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_05: Joe Strummer, The Clash.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_05: 36.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_05: 36, yep.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_00: Joe Strummer's better than Paul McCartney.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_00: Have we ever listened to Joe Strummer sing?
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_05: All of the following people are better than Paul McCartney, according to them.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_05: Uh Grace Slick, Jefferson Airplane, 35.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_05: Wrong.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_05: Chester Bennington, Lincoln Park, 34.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_05: Wrong.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_05: Gustavo Serratti from Soda Stereo.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_05: 33.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_05: Ozzie Osborne.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_05: What?
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_05: 32.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_05: Laura Jane Grace from Against Me, 31.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_05: Steve Perry of Journey is number 30.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_05: 30?
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_05: 30.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_05: This is gonna be great.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_05: Anne Wilson of Heart is number 29.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_05: Why is she so down?
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_05: So Ann Wilson.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_05: Steve Perry.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_05: Before Ann Wilson, better than Anne Wilson?
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_05: Anthony Keatis.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_05: Red Hot Chili Pepper.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_05: Wrong.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_05: Better than Anthony Keatis?
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_05: Lou Reed of the Pelican.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_05: What?
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_05: Can you see why Eddie Truck was getting mad?
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_05: Yes, I can totally, I totally sympathize with Eddie.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_05: Number 26, Tom York of Radiohead.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_05: What?
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_05: Number 25, Janice Joplin.
• 25:36
  unknown: Oh my word.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_05: Rob Halford, number 24.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_05: Karen O from the Yeah Yeah Yas, number 23.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_05: Eddie Vedder, number 22.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_05: Jim Morrison of The Doors, 21.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_05: David Lee Roth of Van Halen is number 20.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_05: Better singer than Rob Halford.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_05: Rob Halford, Paul McCartney.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_05: Kathleen Hannah from Bikini Kill is number 19.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_05: Jack White of the White Stripes, number 18.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_05: Chris Cornell, Soundgarden, 17.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_05: Alright.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_05: But better than Chris Cornell, Michael Stipe of Right.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_05: Not even close.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_05: Chrissy Hine of the Pretenders is number 15.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_05: Steven Tyler.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_05: Aaron Smith is number 14.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_05: Better than Steven Tyler.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_05: Haley Williams from Paramount.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_05: She's 13.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_05: Roger Daltrey of the Who?
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_05: Number 12.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_05: Number 11, better than the Who.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_05: Robert Smith of the Cure.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_05: Here we go.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_05: The top 10.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_05: Axl Rose.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_05: Number 9 is Bono.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_05: Number 8, better than Bono and Axl Rose?
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_05: George Clinton of the Parliament Parliament Fontaine.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_05: George Clinton.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_01: Seriously, George Clinton.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_05: You haven't heard the the the bit the best yet.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_05: Um better than George Clinton, Debbie Harry from Blondie.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_05: Better than Debbie Harry, David Byrne of the Talking Heads.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_05: Kurt Cobain, number five.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_05: Number four, Robert Plant, Led Zeppelin.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_05: Number three, Freddie Mercury of Queen.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_05: Better than Freddie Mercury of Queen.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_05: Number two, Stevie Nicks.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_05: Wrong.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_05: And number one, Mick Jagger.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_00: Mick Jagger is the greatest rock singer ever.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_05: Apparently.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_05: So there's no Ronnie James Dio in there.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_05: No.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_05: There's no David Coverdale, like we were just playing Whitesnake.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_05: Right?
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_05: No.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_05: Um Lou Graham from Foreigner.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_05: No.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_05: I mean Nobody from Toto.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_05: Nobody from Toto.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_05: Um I can think of I mean, I can think of new uh some new artists that would fit on that list uh as well.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_05: Uh and Eddie Trunk had the same thing.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_05: Um Miles Kennedy.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_05: Who would fit on that list?
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_05: Um it's just mind-blowing.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_05: I put Corey Taylor on that.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_05: Corey Taylor from Slipknot.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_05: Absolutely.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_05: And uh Storm Sounds.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_05: Absolutely is a better singer than half those people.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_05: More than half those people.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_05: More than half.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_00: He'd definitely be the top twenty-five.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_05: So you can see how that angered him and it just kind of baffles at baffles.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so that begs the question uh exactly how much crack are the people at Billboard smoking.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_05: Well, they did say it was a group effort.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_05: They kind of A group of morons.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_05: Everybody put their put their own.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_00: What do they say about if they had they if they gave a thousand monkeys typewriters and invent like a you know they would eventually write Shakespeare?
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_00: This is exactly what they did is they got they went to the zoo, got monkeys, gave them some sort of thing to look at, you know, and they pointed at, you know, these names, and that's how they came with those.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_00: They literally are idiots at Billboard.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_05: At the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, at Billboard.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_05: I think it's just I think it's a corporate thing.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_00: It's corporate.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_00: That's why they're all idiots.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_00: Corporate is idiots.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_00: That was that may be the most frustrating list I've ever heard.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_00: Didn't it almost make you mad?
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_00: It is making me mad.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_05: It's like you don't I'm still mad.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_05: You don't know what you're talking about.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_05: I want to take that list and redo it.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_05: Of course, we always say though, we always say that music is subjective.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_05: It is subjective.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_00: But it should be subjective to smart people.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_00: But Iggy Pop is a better singer than Paul McCartney.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_00: That is w outrageous.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I love Iggy Pop, but he is not a better singer than Paul McCartney.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_00: Why is Paul McCartney number 39?
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_00: Right, that's John Lennon's not even on the list.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_05: John Lennon's not even on the list.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_00: What the frick, dude?
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_00: Roy Orbison! Elvis Presley.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_00: Not even on the list.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_00: Not even made it.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_00: It's crazy.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_00: Crazy.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_06: I can see you.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_00: Billboard needs to have people that actually have, you know, musical taste working there.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_05: You would think.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_00: But who did they ask?
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_05: Varied music.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_00: Who did they ask?
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_00: Who are these people that made this list?
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_00: I want to know.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_00: I want names.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_00: Because we're going on a road trip.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna find each one of these people.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_00: Okay?
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_00: And poke them in their eye.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_00: With hot forks.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_00: With hot forks.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_00: Alright.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_00: Because they're more on.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_00: More on.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_00: That is the most infuriating list I've ever heard.
• 30:41
  unknown: Yep.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_05: And I can think of probably um five Sammy Hagar's not on that list.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_01: Sammy Hagar's not on the list.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_00: What the frick, dude?
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_05: Right?
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, this would just blow you away.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_05: And it says rock.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_05: 50 greatest rock singers.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_05: Is uh Gwen Stefani rock?
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_05: She was kind of alternative.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_05: She was kind of alternative, no doubt.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_00: That's rock.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_00: You know?
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_00: But man, what the frick, dude?
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_00: Iggy Pop is better than Paul McCartney.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_05: Joe Elliott's not on that list.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_05: Joe Elliott is right.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_05: Not that I I mean I love Joe Elliott's voice, but I'm not sure he would be like in my top ten of great singers, but um I don't know.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_05: That is so I'm just looking up at the wall here.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_00: Frickin' stupid some of these other What a moronic list.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_00: Mick Jagger, the greatest rock singer ever.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_00: What?
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_00: You've got to be kidding me right now.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_05: Come on, bite the big apple.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_05: Don't mind it.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_00: Nobody nobody take my blood pressure right now, because it's not gonna be good.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_00: What a stupid list.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_05: It is.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_00: It's a stupid list for stupid heads.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_05: Idiots! Well put.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_05: Oh my freaking C here.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_05: Um I have a new CD, or a new album, I should say, that I have not pre previewed yet.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_05: Um so I just thought maybe we would uh preview that.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_05: Did it come from Billboard?
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_05: It did not be.
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_05: It did not come from Billboard.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_05: I will let you guess who who it is, who you think it is.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_05: Um this one says it's explicit.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_05: I'm not sure if I should play that one.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_05: That one says it's explicit.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_05: So I'll just play this one right here.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_05: Uh because I don't know what I don't know what any of this sounds like.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_05: So it's a fresh train.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_05: It's a fresh purchase.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_10: Yes, summer's come and gone, and life just stumbles on.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_10: I wake up to the dawn which can I was down to wherever.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_10: I've grabbed my freedom peace.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_10: I'm sticking this disease.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_10: I'm gonna let the tea Any guesses.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_00: I know, but it's Sister Hazel edge.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_05: It's not as rocked as I thought it was gonna be.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_05: Let's go to another one.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, it's the new Rick Springfield.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_00: It is, yeah.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_05: What led you to that?
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I was just I was listening to Hades on 8 this weekend and he did his uh working class DJ.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, yeah.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_00: His name was Fire.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_05: So walking on sunshine right here.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_10: You are the home with the calculator not to amount suck a little on.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_00: What's the name of this album?
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_00: Automatic.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_00: Automatic, right?
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_05: He said when he was pre-selling the album, like marketing it or whatever, he said that it was gonna be an album of two to three minute pop songs.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, it's definitely very pop.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, and very pop just ear candy.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_00: Um I don't need it.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_05: I don't need it.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_05: I I actually I'm kind of digging it.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I am too.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_05: I I like the titles.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_05: It's called Fake It Till You Make It.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_10: You and me we could be king.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_10: If we don't find the wings, then we're the village in the bomb.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_00: It's very 80s.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_00: It's i i I was just gonna say, it's like it's like he's embracing it.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's like he's like, you know, I missed out on all the electronic of the 80s.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_00: Because I was a guitar guy.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna go back and redo it.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, it's like very depeche modey.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_05: It is.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_05: Uh I really love the the song titles.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_05: This one's called In Case of Fire Break Glass.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_00: Well, we we were gonna have it, we had an album we were gonna call uh Case of Fire Pointed Base of Fire Pull trigger pointed base of the flame.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_00: Instructions from a fire extinguisher.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_05: What was it?
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_05: Point uh hold upright a name with the flame.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_05: Hey you know, hold upright name with the flame.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_10: Justin Silent, an invisible girl, but lately the world has turned.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_05: It's very, very toe eighties, man.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_10: I mean, this guy is like 71, 72 years old.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's up there, man.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_00: It's very 80s.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_00: So 80s, dude.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_00: It's like all but it's all drides up and it's ear candy.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, it is ear candy, huh?
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_00: He must be just having fun.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_00: Because the last couple of albums have been kinda people on the heavier dark side.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_00: So this is kinda this is kind of a nice change in this.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_10: I just said out loud.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_10: I'm bursting at the stream.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, this is like off the foot loop sound traffic, man.
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_05: But somehow still still relevant.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_05: Still Rick Screenfield.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_05: But you know, you say he didn't do this stuff back when back in not as much.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_05: True.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_05: But I mean think about like I'm looking I'm looking back here.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_05: Think about this one.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_05: That's like from mid the early to mid eighties.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_00: This this would fit perfectly on the new album.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_00: Nobody nobody would even bat an eye.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_05: Um, I wanted to play this one.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_05: Uh uh.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_05: Because I just I'm just going off the title.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_05: When God forgets my name.
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, here's his here's his reggae.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_05: He always has like a reggae type song.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_10: Wake up feeling somehow, just to stay on this.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_10: And I'm always looking for somehow else to play.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_10: God's nothing strange, but somehow it's never staying up to stay like a little bit of a lot of people.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_05: Interesting.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_05: He's always had a very dark side.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_05: Because he I mean he suffers from depression, he has for a long time.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_05: I I mean, if you've read his memoir, I mean he was a horndog.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_05: And um it like to a fault.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_05: Um there's a song on here called Heroes.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_05: I'm curious if it's the David Bowie Heroes if he cut if he covered it.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_05: Doesn't sound like it.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_10: Transmission's mission turned the page.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_05: I don't think so either, but I dig it.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_05: I I don't know.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_00: It's actually pretty good.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_00: I'll probably get it at some point.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_05: Anyway, I just I I wanted to preview that.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_05: I hadn't heard any of it.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_05: I I purchased it, I think I purchased it earlier today.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_05: And download it or just the I downloaded it.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, download it.
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_05: Because if I I I wish I could have yeah.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_05: I I'm one of those guys that likes to look at the liner notes.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_05: And it really, really bothers me that we can't do that anymore.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_05: Um but it's a brave new world.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_05: It is a brave new world.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_05: Run by Billboard.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_05: So so there you go.
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_05: Um speaking of the 80s.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_05: Rick Speedfield wasn't on that list either.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_05: I wouldn't consider him one of the greatest singers.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_05: No, but he should have been somewhere.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_05: I always thought he was a great artist.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_05: Um but to have uh to have no um to have no Sammy Hagar on that list kind of bogbles the mind.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, that's that's that's perfect.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_05: So speaking of speaking of idiots, you had a conversation.
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_00: So I was at work Saturday morning, and uh of course it's Saturday morning and I always get a little loopy because it's O Dark Hundred and Right.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_00: I tend to be a little goosey-goosey.
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_00: So it's just me and the other guy.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_00: And uh he he's about ten years older than I am.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_00: But he he likes eighties stuff.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_00: So what I do is when I get in there, I uh put my phone on Sirius XM and I play 80s on eight.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_00: So we jam out, you know, and we're talking about stuff.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_00: And uh whammy came on.
• 42:09
  unknown: Okay.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_00: Wait me up.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_00: Before you go.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_00: That song came on.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_00: And uh he stopped dead in his tracks and he goes, What happened to the other guy?
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, Andrew Wrigley?
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_00: Ridgly.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_05: Ridgly, yep.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_00: He goes, Yeah, the guy that wasn't George Michael.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_00: And I said, I don't know.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_00: He said, You should talk about that on your podcast.
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_00: And I went, you know, that is probably a good point.
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_00: That is a good point.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't and I was like, and so the right, like like later that day, you know, I was you know, we had a gig and I was like, whatever happened to the guy from other guy from Wham.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_00: And you were like, I don't know.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like it's like the great mystery of like what happened to Andrew Ridgely.
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_05: Well, uh I'm going strictly off Wikipedia here, which is you know his gospel.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, of course.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_05: Uh it says post Wham, shortly after Wham broke up, and they broke up because George Michael went solo and he was huge.
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_05: Shortly after the breakup, Andrew Ridgley moved to Monaco and tried his hand at Formula Three motor racing.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_05: Really?
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_05: Meeting with little success, he moved to Los Angeles in pursuit of an acting career.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_05: He returned to Britain permanently in 1990.
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_05: So apparently his acting career didn't take off either.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_05: Um CBS Records, later Sony Music, having taken up the option on Wham's contract, specified solo albums from Michael and Ridge Ridgeley released a guitar and drum-driven solo recording from Ridgely called Son of Albert in uh 1990.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_05: Uh let's see.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_05: His brother Paul, an occasional percussionist for Banana Rama, played drums on the album.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_05: Um just I don't care who else played on the album.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_05: Let's see.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_05: The Son of Albert sold poorly, failing to make the top seventy five in the UK.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_05: Was also one of the worst received albums of nineteen ninety among critics.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_05: Achieving only half a star in a savage Rolling Stone magazine review.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_05: Just nobody cares what Rolling Stone says, just so you say, just so you know.
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_00: I bet uh Billboard gave it like a number one ring.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_05: As a result, CBS passed up the option of a second album.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_05: Ridgly Lady said, or later said, it was disappointing and depressing to receive quite such a beating over that album.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_05: In January of 91, he joined George Michael on stage for a few songs.
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_05: Let's see, since 91, Ridgely has generally shunned publicity, but he did agree to give an on-camera interview for the first time since the split in 2005 documentary, a different story about the life of George Michael.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_05: He appeared as a guest, a studio guest on the first series of BBC Two program Fantasy Football League in 1994.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_05: Ridgely and Michael made plans to reunite as Wham for Live 8 in 2005, but Ridgeley reportedly pulled out at the last minute.
• 44:56
  SPEAKER_05: In 2012, Michael dismissed rumors that they were set for a reunion to mark the 30th anniversary of their first record.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_05: George Michael said that there was no truth in speculation the group would reform for a one-off concert.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_05: Upon hearing of George Michael's death in 2016, Bridgely paid his respects on Twitter saying, Heartbroken at the loss of my beloved friend Yog.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_05: He performed a cameo role in Last Christmas, a 2019 film that featured many songs by Wham.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_05: Says there's a long list of charitable work, but I don't know that he's done much.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_05: Doesn't sound like it.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_00: Sound like he just kind of nosedived after Wham broke up.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_05: In 2019, he released um his memoir, Wham, George, and me.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_05: So he's been living in George Michael's shadow, basically.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_00: Well, obviously, because without him he was nothing.
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_05: So seemingly.
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_05: Seemingly, yeah.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_05: So that's that's a shame.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_05: Um I would imagine he's I mean, they still play Wham all the time, right?
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm sure he's living comfortably off the royalties.
• 46:01
  SPEAKER_00: I think so too.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_00: So Yeah.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, they only had how many albums did Wham have?
• 46:05
  SPEAKER_05: Uh let's see three.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_05: Three?
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_05: Fantastic in 1983, Make It Big in 84, which was the big one.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_05: Uh Music from the Edge of Heaven in 86, so they had three albums.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_05: And then George Michael became a superstar.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_05: Superstar.
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
• 46:23
  SPEAKER_00: So okay, well, that answers that.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_00: That answers that.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_00: So he's still alive.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_00: He is still alive.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, well, that's good news.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_05: Um that got me thinking.
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_05: When you brought that up, that got me thinking, uh, who who else could we Well, I was thinking about the the surviving member of Millie Vanilli.
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_05: Right, because because the other guy, um, I don't remember committed suicide.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_00: He did.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_00: What was his name?
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_00: I don't I don't remember.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_05: Let's see, let's see, hold on.
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_05: Pilatus.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_05: Rob Pilatus.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_05: No, wait.
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_05: Rob Pilatus was the one that killed himself.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_05: Who was the other guy?
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_05: The surviving member is Fabrice Maxim Sylvain Morvan.
• 47:10
  SPEAKER_05: Or Fab.
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_05: They called him Fab Fab Morvan.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_05: Um We all know the history of Millie Vanilli.
• 47:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_05: Um, how they were caught lip syncing and they didn't really sing on their records.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_05: And then they did try and do an album where they actually did sing.
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_00: And it was not good.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_05: Uh let's see.
• 47:34
  SPEAKER_05: They released an eponymous Robin Fabble around 2000.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_05: Oh my goodness.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, so this is the aftermath of the lip-syncing thing.
• 47:41
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, months later, they parodied parodied the scandal in a commercial for carry-free sugarless gum.
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_05: They began to lip sync to an opera recording.
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_05: An announcer asked as they were lip syncing, How long does the taste of carefree sugarless gum last?
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_05: The record then began to skip, and the announcer answers, until these guys sing for themselves.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_05: Oh my goodness.
• 48:00
  SPEAKER_05: Ouch.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_05: But they were in the commercial, so they were obviously.
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm certainly they, you know, kind of poke fun at themselves.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_05: Well, then they moved to LA where they released that album, Rob and Fab, which was their their them actually singing.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_05: It only sold around 2,000 copies.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_00: 2,000?
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_00: 2,000.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_05: Um Rob later served three months in jail for assault, vandalism, and attempted robbery.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_05: Spent six six months on drug rehab before returning to Germany.
• 48:27
  SPEAKER_05: Uh later to die in a 1998 drug overdose at the age of 32.
• 48:32
  SPEAKER_05: But as we I think it was a purposely purposeful drug overdose.
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_05: So let's see.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_05: Morvan spent several years as a session musician and public speaker.
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_05: It's kind of ironic.
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_00: That's uh funny.
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_05: In ninety-eight, he was hired as a radio DJ at LA Radio Station Kiss FM.
• 48:50
  SPEAKER_05: During this time, he also performed at the station sold-out 99 Wango Tango concert before 50,000 people at Dodger Stadium.
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_05: Interesting.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_05: In 97, he was interviewed for the premier episode of Behind the Music.
• 49:02
  SPEAKER_05: Uh was featured in a documentary.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_05: In 2003, he released his first solo album.
• 49:06
  SPEAKER_05: Um released a new single anytime to Digital Outlets.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_05: May 2012 he released a single, 2016 appeared in a documentary style KFC commercial.
• 49:15
  SPEAKER_05: Uh also DJs for private Heineken functions.
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_05: Interesting.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_05: Um has had some film projects as well.
• 49:27
  SPEAKER_05: Um there's a Millie Vanilli biopic, Girl You Know It's True.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_05: Um that was that was filmed.
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_05: It was filmed?
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_05: It was filmed.
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_05: Is it out?
• 49:39
  SPEAKER_05: In Munich, Berlin, Cape Town.
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_05: The film was produced by this firm and due to due to be released in cinemas in 2023.
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_05: Oh.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so I guess they're I guess Girl You Know It's True is coming out this year.
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_05: I would actually watch that.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_05: I would too.
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I would watch that as well.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_05: So yeah.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_05: So he's he's still around, still going.
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_05: Well, that's good.
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_05: Trying to try to do whatever.
• 50:04
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_05: So interesting.
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_05: Anybody else you want to know about?
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_05: Uh well, I got it right here.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_05: What do you mean?
• 50:15
  SPEAKER_05: Artists?
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_05: Where are they now?
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, um.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_00: Didn't we mention somebody else?
• 50:21
  SPEAKER_05: Uh Howard Jones.
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_05: Howard Jones, yeah.
• 50:23
  SPEAKER_00: What happened to Howard Jones?
• 50:24
  SPEAKER_05: I think he's still going.
• 50:25
  SPEAKER_05: I think he's still touring.
• 50:26
  SPEAKER_05: Uh let's see.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_05: Of course, you know, Howard Jones had a bunch of huge hits.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_05: Uh things can only get better.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_05: Um, what was that one?
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_05: Um Everlasting Love.
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_01: I need an Everlasting Love.
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_05: Um, let's see, in the 2010s, uh, 2011, a UK tour was announced.
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_05: Uh I think he's still touring.
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, in 2012, he appeared on the song that changed my life.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_05: I'm not going to go into too much detail here.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_05: Uh so in 2018 he joined fellow musician Steve Hogarth of Marillion, presenting an unveiling of a sculpture in tribute to David Boyd.
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_05: I don't care about that.
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_05: Transform was released in 2019.
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_05: It features three collaborations with electronic musician B.T.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_05: So it's an electronic album that he did.
• 51:19
  SPEAKER_05: Um Jones has spoken of the media's negative perception of him.
• 51:25
  SPEAKER_05: I guess I didn't know this.
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, I didn't really know anybody talked about him.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_05: In 2006, he said, My songs are not about drug taking or debauchery or rock and roll.
• 51:37
  SPEAKER_05: They're about positive thinking and challenging people's ideas.
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_05: It wasn't fashionable.
• 51:41
  SPEAKER_05: I never got good reviews, but I'm proud of the fact that I wasn't liked by the media.
• 51:45
  SPEAKER_05: Pop music is so reactionary and bigoted, and I found that what's cool is often very shallow and transient.
• 51:54
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 51:54
  SPEAKER_05: Not wrong.
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_05: No, he's not wrong.
• 51:57
  SPEAKER_05: Um he's a Buddhist.
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_05: I didn't know that.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_05: Interesting.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_05: Um.
• 52:05
  SPEAKER_05: He lives in I I don't know where this is.
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_05: Uh as of 2006, Jones resided in Creech St.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_05: Michael near Taunton, Somerset.
• 52:17
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's an England.
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_00: Is it?
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_05: Are you just making that up or?
• 52:21
  SPEAKER_00: No, I'm pretty sure that's England.
• 52:23
  SPEAKER_05: Creech St.
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_05: Michael.
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_05: Let me just click on that.
• 52:26
  SPEAKER_05: It's a village and civil parish in Somerset, three miles of town in Somerset West.
• 52:33
  SPEAKER_05: Doesn't tell me where it is.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_05: Heathfield and Ham is uh Ham lie east of the motorway.
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_05: The hamlets of Addsborough, Coombe, Langlear, and Walford lie west of the motorway.
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_05: The parish has a population of 2,416.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_01: I still don't know where it is.
• 52:50
  SPEAKER_05: Dollars to donuts, it's England, I guess.
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, well, let's see.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, you're right.
• 52:54
  SPEAKER_05: It is.
• 52:55
  SPEAKER_05: It's in England.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_00: They got such wacky names over there.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I was trying to figure out.
• 52:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_05: So anyway, that's what happened to Howard Jones.
• 53:03
  SPEAKER_05: Alright.
• 53:03
  SPEAKER_05: He's still going and he's still touring.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_05: And I think he does, you know, every once in a while they do those um 80s package tours.
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_05: And he's on those.
• 53:10
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, that's cool.
• 53:11
  SPEAKER_05: And he still puts out.
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_05: I liked I liked his stuff.
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_05: I did too.
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 53:14
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 53:14
  SPEAKER_05: I did too.
• 53:14
  SPEAKER_05: I thought he was underrated.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, for sure.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_00: I thought he was pretty great.
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 53:18
  SPEAKER_05: So.
• 53:18
  SPEAKER_00: Well, there you go.
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_05: That was interesting.
• 53:21
  SPEAKER_05: Where are they now?
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_05: Where are they now?
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_05: So why don't we let's let's do this.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_05: Let me let's do a little bit of uh um what's her name?
• 53:31
  SPEAKER_05: Beckfiner.
• 53:33
  SPEAKER_05: Is that right there?
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_05: Hopefully it's right there.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_00: It's under this seemingly innocent laptop.
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_00: It is.
• 53:41
  SPEAKER_05: That's my work laptop.
• 53:42
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, you have a work laptop.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_05: I have a work laptop.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_00: It's the school one?
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's the school laptop.
• 53:46
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, so I probably shouldn't pour a power aid on it.
• 53:49
  unknown: Probably not.
• 53:50
  unknown: That'd be funny though.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_05: No.
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_05: Maybe to you.
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_01: What happened to your laptop?
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_01: Ah, it was Doug! Doug's an idiot.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_01: He works for Billboard.
• 54:01
  SPEAKER_05: There is no Doug.
• 54:03
  SPEAKER_01: There is no.
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_01: There is no Zool.
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_01: There is no Zool.
• 54:08
  SPEAKER_05: Alright, so we're reading from the Metal Legends alphabet from Beck Feiner.
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_05: We are on what?
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_05: O P Q.
• 54:17
  SPEAKER_05: Because we did P, didn't we?
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, we did O.
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_00: We're on P.
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_05: We're on P.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_05: Oh.
• 54:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_00: We got P is.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_05: Wait a second.
• 54:27
  SPEAKER_05: You told me this.
• 54:29
  SPEAKER_05: Did we do we did what was before O?
• 54:33
  SPEAKER_05: Uh type O negative.
• 54:34
  SPEAKER_05: Type O negative, that's what it was.
• 54:36
  SPEAKER_05: Wait.
• 54:38
  SPEAKER_05: That was before Oh element.
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, so it was an N.
• 54:41
  SPEAKER_05: It was negative.
• 54:42
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 54:42
  SPEAKER_05: They use the negative ass.
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_05: Blows me away.
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know what she does.
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, so we're on.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_00: She's on crack.
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_00: She hangs out of billboard too much.
• 54:49
  SPEAKER_00: We're on P or We're on P.
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_00: We're on P.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_05: And Pantera.
• 54:53
  SPEAKER_00: It is Pantera.
• 54:53
  SPEAKER_00: It is Pantera.
• 54:55
  SPEAKER_00: These cowboys from Texas.
• 54:58
  SPEAKER_00: Went from 80s glam metal, which is true.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_00: To a new level of by enlisting.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_00: Glam metal?
• 55:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you don't remember that, man?
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 55:05
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, dude.
• 55:05
  SPEAKER_00: It was crazy.
• 55:07
  SPEAKER_00: To a new level by enlisting the deep growl of Phil and Salmo.
• 55:11
  SPEAKER_00: It was before Phil.
• 55:13
  SPEAKER_00: Brutal and Raw, Pantera demonstrated a vulgar vulgar display of power.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um that inspired a new generation of groove metal bands like Corn and Lamb of God before breaking up in 2003.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_00: It's kind of a short uh thing about Pantera.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_05: And of course the legendary Dimebag.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_05: Dimebag.
• 55:36
  SPEAKER_05: That whole story.
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, the whole story where Dimebag was was shot on stage.
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 55:41
  SPEAKER_05: And with damage plan.
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_05: Uh Pantera on tour right now.
• 55:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, with uh Charlie Benante.
• 55:49
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 55:49
  SPEAKER_00: And uh Zach Wilde.
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_00: Zach Wilde, yeah.
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_00: I got it.
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_00: That's crazy.
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_00: I bet you that's a good show.
• 55:54
  SPEAKER_00: I bet that's a great show.
• 55:55
  SPEAKER_00: I bet that's really great.
• 55:56
  SPEAKER_05: So I had to just look up Pantera.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_05: I I went on YouTube and I said Pantera 80s Glam.
• 56:04
  SPEAKER_05: Because I don't remember this era.
• 56:05
  SPEAKER_05: So I it brought this song up.
• 56:07
  SPEAKER_05: No, nobody does.
• 56:07
  SPEAKER_05: It brought this song up.
• 56:09
  SPEAKER_05: Because Yeah, this doesn't sound like Pantera.
• 56:26
  SPEAKER_05: So this is time back?
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_05: Got it.
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_05: This is the kind of stuff I was listening to back then.
• 56:42
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 56:44
  SPEAKER_05: No idea.
• 56:45
  SPEAKER_05: No, it's definitely not Phil.
• 56:46
  SPEAKER_05: No idea who the singer is?
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_05: No idea.
• 56:54
  SPEAKER_00: Nobody talked about Pantera prior to Phil.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_05: That's true.
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_05: Because I never knew I never even knew this existed.
• 57:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, everybody assumes that Cowboys from Hell was the very first Pantera album.
• 57:09
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think so.
• 57:11
  SPEAKER_00: I think there there was stuff before that.
• 57:13
  SPEAKER_05: Interesting.
• 57:14
  SPEAKER_00: Very interesting.
• 57:15
  SPEAKER_00: But nobody talks about it.
• 57:16
  SPEAKER_00: But it is one of the best shows I've ever seen.
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you said that.
• 57:20
  SPEAKER_00: Oh man, they were just, and this was like, this was vulgar display of power era, and it was just off the hook.
• 57:27
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you were just like the whole time.
• 57:30
  SPEAKER_00: It was just amazing.
• 57:31
  SPEAKER_00: The power and just just ferocity of those guys.
• 57:35
  SPEAKER_04: Wow.
• 57:36
  SPEAKER_00: It was amazing.
• 57:37
  SPEAKER_00: It was such a good.
• 57:38
  SPEAKER_00: And of course, they were on Twitter.
• 57:40
  SPEAKER_00: They opened for White Zombie.
• 57:42
  SPEAKER_00: And White Zombie got on, and it was just like, it was such a letdown.
• 57:45
  SPEAKER_05: Really?
• 57:46
  SPEAKER_00: It was so bad.
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody was just like, ah, you know, because Pantera just kicked White Zombie.
• 57:54
  SPEAKER_05: White Zombie at that time was very electronic, wasn't it?
• 57:57
  SPEAKER_05: It was heavy.
• 57:59
  SPEAKER_00: It was the industrial metal.
• 58:01
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 58:01
  SPEAKER_00: You know?
• 58:02
  SPEAKER_00: But I mean it's it sounds better on record than it does live.
• 58:06
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I bet it does.
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_00: So and Pantera was just just killing.
• 58:11
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, just killed everybody.
• 58:13
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 58:14
  SPEAKER_00: It was awesome.
• 58:15
  SPEAKER_00: One of the easily one of the best shows I've ever seen.
• 58:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 58:18
  SPEAKER_00: So but anyway, I digress.
• 58:22
  unknown: All right.
• 58:22
  SPEAKER_05: Well, there you go.
• 58:24
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just glad Billboard wasn't there.
• 58:26
  SPEAKER_05: Let's close up the uh let's close up the Beckfinder book.
• 58:29
  SPEAKER_05: Uh I'd closed it.
• 58:30
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 58:31
  SPEAKER_05: Sitting over here now.
• 58:32
  SPEAKER_05: Alright.
• 58:32
  SPEAKER_05: Sitting on top of your school laptop.
• 58:34
  SPEAKER_05: We're gonna uh we're gonna take a break.
• 58:35
  SPEAKER_05: We're gonna climb back.
• 58:36
  SPEAKER_05: Uh come back and climb the mortar.
• 58:38
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna climb back.
• 58:39
  SPEAKER_01: Climb back.
• 58:40
  SPEAKER_05: Climb back.
• 58:41
  SPEAKER_05: From this the climb back.
• 58:42
  SPEAKER_12: Climb back to where you once belonged.
• 58:45
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, we'll do the wall of two.
• 58:47
  SPEAKER_00: Climb back.
• 58:48
  SPEAKER_05: And um climb back.
• 58:50
  SPEAKER_05: History revisited.
• 58:51
  SPEAKER_00: No, history in a nutshell, dude.
• 58:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, what you cannot.
• 58:55
  SPEAKER_06: What is okay, Grandpa?
• 59:00
  SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_06: History in a nutshell is also coming up next.
• 59:06
  SPEAKER_06: So don't go anywhere.
• 59:07
  SPEAKER_12: We don't know.
• 59:07
  SPEAKER_12: It's just whatever Doug does.
• 59:11
  SPEAKER_01: Doug's just gonna talk.
• 59:14
  SPEAKER_06: I gotta tell the story of what you said in the car the other night.
• 59:20
  SPEAKER_05: Because I was laughing for five minutes.
• 59:23
  SPEAKER_05: And you won't understand this.
• 59:24
  SPEAKER_05: Well, if you're a listener of the show, you may understand it because just picture it coming from Doug's mouth.
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_05: And it makes it all the funnier.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_05: Because uh so we're driving to this gig Saturday night, and the lady that hired us, Doug is trying to remember her.
• 59:39
  SPEAKER_05: He's like, Do I know her?
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_05: And I said, I think you do.
• 59:42
  SPEAKER_05: We've we've done a show for her before.
• 59:44
  SPEAKER_05: Uh it was from she w was with this other organization.
• 59:47
  SPEAKER_05: I think you I think you'll remember her, and you said something to the effect of, I'll just walk in and stare at her.
• 59:56
  SPEAKER_06: Of course I did by like right stare.
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_06: Just stare at her.
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_06: And you said, you said uh she'll say, she'll say to you, she'll say, Is is is uh is Doug okay?
• 1:00:07
  SPEAKER_06: So yeah, okay, he's okay.
• 1:00:09
  SPEAKER_06: He just needs to get your tent.
• 1:00:10
  SPEAKER_06: Let him smell your sweater.
• 1:00:16
  SPEAKER_12: Oh no, I remember you.
• 1:00:21
  SPEAKER_06: I was driving and like.
• 1:00:23
  SPEAKER_06: You know, I thought we were gonna wreck dude.
• 1:00:25
  SPEAKER_06: You were laughing really hard.
• 1:00:26
  SPEAKER_06: Just let him smell your sweater.
• 1:00:31
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you know what was really funny though is when she was talking to us at the party, I was tempted to be like, just like because I was you were talking to her, and I was gonna like lean over and just like pretend to smell her and just to see what you would have done.
• 1:00:53
  SPEAKER_00: But I didn't do it.
• 1:00:55
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't do it because you were you it was like it would have been just you would have done that.
• 1:00:59
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly, you would have done that, but you would have been very confused.
• 1:01:02
  SPEAKER_06: I also think we just named the episode what let him smell your sweater.
• 1:01:07
  SPEAKER_06: Let Doug smell your sweater.
• 1:01:14
  SPEAKER_05: Climb the wall after this.
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  SPEAKER_06: Larry! Is Doug okay?
• 1:02:20
  SPEAKER_12: Yeah, he's fine.
• 1:02:21
  SPEAKER_12: Just needs to get your stand.
• 1:02:22
  SPEAKER_12: Yeah, let us feel your spirit disorder.
• 1:02:25
  SPEAKER_12: Oh yeah, I remember you.
• 1:02:26
  SPEAKER_12: We played a show for you back in 2018.
• 1:02:31
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, but remember that one?
• 1:02:32
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my goodness.
• 1:02:33
  SPEAKER_01: They had crab cakes.
• 1:02:35
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, you know what?
• 1:02:36
  SPEAKER_01: I don't have my keyboard plugged into the computer.
• 1:02:37
  SPEAKER_01: Your favorite color is red.
• 1:02:38
  SPEAKER_05: I don't have my keyboard plugged into the computer.
• 1:02:41
  SPEAKER_05: So this uh this visit with um from from you with the uh uh history in a nutshell is You got it right!
• 1:02:49
  SPEAKER_06: I got it right.
• 1:02:50
  SPEAKER_06: Good for you, Sparky.
• 1:02:52
  SPEAKER_05: Fresh in my memory.
• 1:02:52
  SPEAKER_05: It's like history.
• 1:02:56
  SPEAKER_05: I need the history of um well, I want you to tell me about the love story between Kermit the Frog and Miss Piggy.
• 1:03:07
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, that's a disturbing one.
• 1:03:08
  SPEAKER_05: Alright, we'll start from the beginning, and while you do that, I'm gonna climb the wall and get us get an album.
• 1:03:14
  SPEAKER_00: Well, picture this.
• 1:03:16
  SPEAKER_05: Sicily.
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_00: Sicily, 1942.
• 1:03:21
  SPEAKER_00: Italy is in the grasp of World War.
• 1:03:24
  SPEAKER_00: What'd you do, man?
• 1:03:25
  SPEAKER_00: So a couple things fell down on there.
• 1:03:28
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, back in Sicily, um Kermit was uh was a busker on the streets of uh Rome.
• 1:03:36
  SPEAKER_00: Used to hang outside this column see him.
• 1:03:38
  SPEAKER_12: Yeah.
• 1:03:39
  SPEAKER_12: Hey, hey everybody.
• 1:03:40
  SPEAKER_00: Come on in here.
• 1:03:41
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, where might you frown?
• 1:03:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, a dollar.
• 1:03:45
  SPEAKER_00: And uh can I smell your sweater?
• 1:03:49
  SPEAKER_00: Can I smell your sweater?
• 1:03:50
  SPEAKER_00: And uh sorry This is getting disorder.
• 1:04:05
  SPEAKER_00: You know what?
• 1:04:06
  SPEAKER_00: I think we're just gonna stop the because this is gonna go all kinds of wrong.
• 1:04:12
  SPEAKER_06: You're probably right.
• 1:04:15
  SPEAKER_00: Oh because this this was gonna go down a really bad path.
• 1:04:20
  SPEAKER_06: I think it probably was, yeah.
• 1:04:22
  SPEAKER_05: And I was gonna take it there, actually.
• 1:04:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you wouldn't have helped, man.
• 1:04:29
  SPEAKER_00: No, not there.
• 1:04:30
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 1:04:31
  SPEAKER_00: Who there?
• 1:04:33
  SPEAKER_00: Hi ho!
• 1:04:37
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, yeah, let's let's focus.
• 1:04:39
  SPEAKER_05: Let's focus.
• 1:04:40
  SPEAKER_06: Uh focus.
• 1:04:41
  SPEAKER_05: Let's get back.
• 1:04:41
  SPEAKER_05: Laser like focus.
• 1:04:42
  SPEAKER_05: Get it back, get it back, get it back.
• 1:04:43
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 1:04:43
  SPEAKER_05: I have climbed.
• 1:04:44
  SPEAKER_05: Jerry Rice like focus.
• 1:04:45
  SPEAKER_05: I've climbed the wall.
• 1:04:46
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 1:04:47
  SPEAKER_05: I have an album.
• 1:04:48
  SPEAKER_05: All right.
• 1:04:49
  SPEAKER_05: And let the guessing begin.
• 1:04:53
  SPEAKER_00: Uh is it a bland?
• 1:04:55
  SPEAKER_00: Bland?
• 1:04:57
  SPEAKER_05: Is it a bland bland?
• 1:04:58
  SPEAKER_05: It wasn't a bland band, but it became a bland band, kind of eventually.
• 1:05:02
  SPEAKER_05: It is a band?
• 1:05:02
  SPEAKER_05: It is a band.
• 1:05:03
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 1:05:03
  SPEAKER_05: Rock band?
• 1:05:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 1:05:05
  SPEAKER_00: Height of popularity.
• 1:05:06
  SPEAKER_05: Um, we'll go to say 80s.
• 1:05:08
  SPEAKER_05: 80s.
• 1:05:09
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:05:09
  SPEAKER_00: They keep became bland?
• 1:05:11
  SPEAKER_05: Well, not bland, but I don't know.
• 1:05:18
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 1:05:19
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know how to how else to.
• 1:05:23
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I'm assuming that there's like iconic songs involved.
• 1:05:31
  SPEAKER_05: I think so.
• 1:05:32
  SPEAKER_00: You think so?
• 1:05:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 1:05:33
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:05:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um were there any virtuosos in the band?
• 1:05:39
  SPEAKER_05: I don't think so.
• 1:05:40
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:05:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um.
• 1:05:44
  SPEAKER_05: And I don't know if we've done this album before.
• 1:05:47
  SPEAKER_05: Have we done the artist before?
• 1:05:48
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
• 1:05:49
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 1:05:49
  SPEAKER_05: I think uh I seem to think we've talked about them, and we may even have talked about this album, but Okay.
• 1:05:56
  SPEAKER_00: Um Well what you want.
• 1:06:03
  SPEAKER_05: Uh let's see.
• 1:06:05
  SPEAKER_05: Um I think they're based in Florida.
• 1:06:10
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I think you so you would call them a kind of a Southern Rock.
• 1:06:20
  SPEAKER_00: Is it right?
• 1:06:21
  SPEAKER_00: It is 38 Special.
• 1:06:22
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, I was just listening to the 38 special when I got here.
• 1:06:25
  SPEAKER_00: Really?
• 1:06:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:06:25
  SPEAKER_00: It was on the 80s on the 80s on eight.
• 1:06:29
  SPEAKER_05: So I was right.
• 1:06:30
  SPEAKER_05: I mean the one's most popular decade was probably the 80s.
• 1:06:32
  SPEAKER_00: I would agree, I would agree with that.
• 1:06:33
  SPEAKER_05: Uh the album though.
• 1:06:36
  SPEAKER_05: Have we talked about this?
• 1:06:39
  SPEAKER_00: Bone Again Steel?
• 1:06:41
  SPEAKER_00: No?
• 1:06:42
  SPEAKER_00: Not that I were.
• 1:06:43
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, I don't even know if we've talked about Yeah, look in there and see if we've talked about 38 Special because I've always loved 38 Special.
• 1:06:52
  SPEAKER_05: Just you know, the songs that they have on the radio, they higher because they play the same ones over and over.
• 1:07:00
  SPEAKER_05: Hold on Loosely is a great song.
• 1:07:03
  SPEAKER_00: That's exactly the one I was looking to.
• 1:07:05
  SPEAKER_05: It's a great song, but radio just killed it, in my opinion.
• 1:07:13
  SPEAKER_05: Um matter of fact, it's funny because I have uh in addition to this album, I have the very best of the AM years, and I don't have Hold On Loosely in there on purpose.
• 1:07:24
  SPEAKER_05: Uh I liked it, I love the song, but it just got overplayed as well as this one.
• 1:07:30
  SPEAKER_00: I love this song.
• 1:07:31
  SPEAKER_05: I do too.
• 1:07:33
  SPEAKER_05: So, and I will tell you this though, if 38 Special comes on the radio, I do not turn the channel.
• 1:07:38
  unknown: Let's go.
• 1:07:41
  SPEAKER_05: So this is from never done 38 Special.
• 1:07:43
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, good.
• 1:07:44
  SPEAKER_05: Um I will tell you also, there is before I get to this album, we'll get to this album in a second.
• 1:07:52
  SPEAKER_05: Um one of the I told you one of the first um albums that I bought was Thriller on 45.
• 1:08:00
  SPEAKER_05: Uh and The Girl Is Mine, I think The Girl Is Mine was on the B side.
• 1:08:04
  SPEAKER_05: The other album that I bought on 45 was 38 Special.
• 1:08:09
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, okay.
• 1:08:10
  SPEAKER_05: Uh and it was this one.
• 1:08:15
  SPEAKER_05: It's called Like No Other Night.
• 1:08:17
  SPEAKER_05: Do you remember this song?
• 1:08:18
  SPEAKER_05: Nope.
• 1:08:19
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm not not yet.
• 1:08:21
  SPEAKER_00: I probably I probably heard it.
• 1:08:24
  SPEAKER_05: Trying to think of what the B side was on this one, but I I don't remember what it was.
• 1:08:28
  SPEAKER_07: I was feeling like a prisoner inside myself.
• 1:08:32
  SPEAKER_07: I saw you.
• 1:08:34
  SPEAKER_10: Looking like you might be and the try everything that was new.
• 1:08:41
  SPEAKER_05: I don't think I've heard this.
• 1:08:42
  SPEAKER_05: Really?
• 1:08:42
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:08:42
  SPEAKER_05: It's called Like No Other Night.
• 1:08:45
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, nope.
• 1:08:46
  SPEAKER_05: Now you know it.
• 1:08:47
  SPEAKER_05: I have heard it, yes.
• 1:08:47
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:08:48
  SPEAKER_05: They had a lot of hit songs.
• 1:08:51
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:08:52
  SPEAKER_00: Um I don't think I ever realized it was 38 Special though.
• 1:09:04
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, there's a lot of that.
• 1:09:05
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:09:06
  SPEAKER_05: Um Back to Paradise.
• 1:09:09
  SPEAKER_05: Remember this one?
• 1:09:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, this this doesn't sound me from the back go to Middle coming back.
• 1:09:24
  SPEAKER_03: Don't need to take it that you understand.
• 1:09:27
  SPEAKER_03: You're on your way to the promised land.
• 1:09:33
  SPEAKER_05: Take me back to paradise.
• 1:09:34
  SPEAKER_05: Do you know what this one?
• 1:09:35
  SPEAKER_05: Nope.
• 1:09:37
  SPEAKER_05: This one.
• 1:09:38
  SPEAKER_05: Somebody like you.
• 1:10:01
  SPEAKER_05: No?
• 1:10:02
  SPEAKER_05: No.
• 1:10:04
  SPEAKER_05: I love this song.
• 1:10:05
  SPEAKER_05: I love this.
• 1:10:05
  SPEAKER_05: I love this band with Don Barnes.
• 1:10:08
  SPEAKER_05: This is Don Barnes on lead vocals.
• 1:10:10
  SPEAKER_05: Jeff Carlisi's in in there on guitar.
• 1:10:13
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, is is the is the lead singer like a big blondish guy with long hair and a cowboy hat?
• 1:10:20
  SPEAKER_05: No.
• 1:10:20
  SPEAKER_05: That well, he's one of the lead singers.
• 1:10:22
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, he's one of them.
• 1:10:22
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 1:10:23
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 1:10:23
  SPEAKER_05: The guy that they had most of the hits with is the guy with the the close-up beard.
• 1:10:28
  SPEAKER_05: His name is Don Barnes.
• 1:10:29
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 1:10:30
  SPEAKER_05: Donnie Van Zant is who you're thinking of.
• 1:10:32
  SPEAKER_05: And he is the cousin to Ronnie and Johnny Van Zant from Rainard Skinner.
• 1:10:38
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 1:10:38
  SPEAKER_05: I believe he's their cousin.
• 1:10:39
  SPEAKER_05: Or their cousin.
• 1:10:41
  SPEAKER_05: No, he's got to be their cousin.
• 1:10:42
  SPEAKER_05: I'm pretty sure.
• 1:10:44
  SPEAKER_00: And he did sing on a bunch of 38 special songs, but like when you listen to serious, you know, usually, you know, like the artists have like a picture.
• 1:10:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 1:10:53
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it was just that guy.
• 1:10:55
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:10:55
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like.
• 1:10:56
  SPEAKER_05: Well, here's the thing.
• 1:10:57
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm pretty sure there was more than one guy in a band.
• 1:11:00
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:11:01
  SPEAKER_05: So let me uh remember this one?
• 1:11:03
  SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah.
• 1:11:04
  SPEAKER_05: Teacher Teacher.
• 1:11:05
  SPEAKER_05: Yes, I love this song.
• 1:11:06
  SPEAKER_05: From the movie uh Teachers with Nick Nolte.
• 1:11:09
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I didn't know it was from a movie.
• 1:11:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:11:11
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:11:12
  SPEAKER_00: But I do know a song.
• 1:11:14
  SPEAKER_11: Just win the bottom.
• 1:11:19
  SPEAKER_05: It's just like it's, I mean, it's catchy.
• 1:11:21
  SPEAKER_05: It's kind of pop rock.
• 1:11:22
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, kinda.
• 1:11:23
  SPEAKER_05: You know.
• 1:11:25
  SPEAKER_05: But a lot of hit.
• 1:11:44
  SPEAKER_05: Great, great song.
• 1:11:45
  SPEAKER_05: Um, and then there's this, which is back where you belong.
• 1:11:49
  SPEAKER_05: Why don't you back where you belong?
• 1:11:51
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 1:11:51
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 1:11:52
  SPEAKER_05: You heard this one.
• 1:11:54
  SPEAKER_05: What if I'd been the one?
• 1:11:57
  SPEAKER_00: Have I?
• 1:11:58
  SPEAKER_05: I know you have.
• 1:12:08
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah.
• 1:12:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:12:11
  SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna.
• 1:12:12
  SPEAKER_00: I guess there's another one I didn't realize was 38 Special.
• 1:12:15
  SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah.
• 1:12:17
  SPEAKER_05: So here's the thing.
• 1:12:21
  SPEAKER_05: Don Barnes left 38 Special.
• 1:12:24
  SPEAKER_05: The lead singer.
• 1:12:25
  SPEAKER_05: The one of the lead singers.
• 1:12:27
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 1:12:27
  SPEAKER_05: Uh the one that had most of the Oh, I guess Donnie Van Zent is the younger brother of Ronnie.
• 1:12:34
  SPEAKER_05: Uh Van Zan.
• 1:12:37
  SPEAKER_05: So I'm trying to think of when Don Barnes left.
• 1:12:52
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, here he is.
• 1:12:53
  SPEAKER_05: In 87.
• 1:12:55
  SPEAKER_05: 1987, Don Barnes decided to leave the band to go out on his own.
• 1:13:00
  SPEAKER_05: He recorded an album called Ride the Storm, which, though slated for release in 1989, was shelved after AM Records was sold and was not released until 2017.
• 1:13:11
  SPEAKER_05: 28 years later.
• 1:13:13
  SPEAKER_05: So they the group moved on.
• 1:13:17
  SPEAKER_05: And you know, it's one of those replace the guy that had most of the hits.
• 1:13:22
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 1:13:23
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, which is difficult to do.
• 1:13:25
  SPEAKER_05: Well, so they replaced him with a guy named Max Carl.
• 1:13:32
  SPEAKER_05: And they had a, I think, a number one hit with this song, Second Chance.
• 1:13:39
  SPEAKER_05: Did you not know this was 38 Special?
• 1:13:41
  SPEAKER_00: I did not know this was 38 Special 2.
• 1:13:42
  SPEAKER_00: What with the freak, dude?
• 1:13:44
  SPEAKER_00: Alright, alright.
• 1:13:47
  SPEAKER_10: Since you've been gone.
• 1:13:49
  SPEAKER_05: Great song.
• 1:13:50
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:13:50
  SPEAKER_05: Second chance.
• 1:13:51
  SPEAKER_05: Good song.
• 1:13:51
  unknown: I feel my last listen.
• 1:13:53
  SPEAKER_05: And that's Max Carl, who has a bluesier, soulful kind of voice.
• 1:13:58
  SPEAKER_05: See, I I never would have figured this out.
• 1:14:01
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:14:02
  SPEAKER_05: And so, which brings me to this album.
• 1:14:06
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, this song is not on this album.
• 1:14:08
  SPEAKER_05: I think they only did two albums with Max Carl.
• 1:14:14
  SPEAKER_06: Let's see.
• 1:14:15
  SPEAKER_10: Why can't you care about the mask?
• 1:14:26
  SPEAKER_05: Actually, Max Carl was Yep, from 87 to 92.
• 1:14:38
  SPEAKER_05: Which which means they probably only did like one or two albums.
• 1:14:42
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I was gonna say two or three.
• 1:14:44
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, because Second Chance is not on this album.
• 1:14:48
  SPEAKER_05: So, let's get to this album.
• 1:14:50
  SPEAKER_05: Because I bought this album because I like Don or uh I like Don Barnes Barnes' voice, but I liked Max Carl's voice.
• 1:14:57
  SPEAKER_05: And you know, that song.
• 1:14:57
  SPEAKER_05: I was like, well, I like that kind of music.
• 1:14:59
  SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna take a chance, I'm gonna get this album, Bone Against Steel.
• 1:15:03
  SPEAKER_05: And um this is back when cars had CD players in them.
• 1:15:08
  SPEAKER_05: This CD never left my car for like six months.
• 1:15:11
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 1:15:12
  SPEAKER_05: I wore it out because it's well, let me just play it.
• 1:15:18
  SPEAKER_05: This is the first track.
• 1:15:19
  SPEAKER_05: Think of uh think of riding around sunny day, sunny summer day down the highway with the windows rolled down.
• 1:15:34
  SPEAKER_05: This is called Sound of Your Voice.
• 1:15:37
  SPEAKER_05: Catch you pop rock.
• 1:15:38
  SPEAKER_10: Knock down the doors and break through the walls, tear off the phone run from the law.
• 1:15:45
  SPEAKER_10: I'm gonna tell you I'm gonna feel it.
• 1:16:30
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, right.
• 1:16:51
  SPEAKER_05: And this one is the title track.
• 1:16:56
  SPEAKER_05: Bone against Steel.
• 1:16:59
  SPEAKER_05: I'm only gonna play a couple because we gotta wrap it up here, but I just dig this town, you know.
• 1:17:05
  SPEAKER_10: Rolling all out to Vegas on eastbound of LARP neck man who hair from Alabama His eyes had a lot to say, and his name was Rufus Champion.
• 1:17:29
  SPEAKER_05: So Max Max Carl, like I said, was only in 38 Special Um from 87 to 92.
• 1:17:36
  SPEAKER_05: Then Don Barnes came back.
• 1:17:38
  SPEAKER_05: So and then Don Barnes has been with him ever since.
• 1:17:40
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 1:17:41
  SPEAKER_05: Um and I think they put out maybe one or two more albums, but they tour all the time.
• 1:17:45
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 1:17:46
  SPEAKER_05: Um Max Carl.
• 1:17:51
  SPEAKER_05: Big choruses, you know, big choruses.
• 1:17:53
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:17:58
  SPEAKER_05: Um Max Carl is now in and has been for a while.
• 1:18:03
  SPEAKER_05: Um not only did he do um like soundtrack work for ESPN, like uh like uh for X games and stuff like that, he recorded, he did like guitar soundtrack and stuff like that.
• 1:18:19
  SPEAKER_05: He's a multi-instrumentalist as well.
• 1:18:21
  SPEAKER_05: Um but he also joined um Grand Funk Railroad.
• 1:18:25
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, really?
• 1:18:25
  SPEAKER_05: And he's been with Grand Funk Railroad, I think, since the mid-90s.
• 1:18:28
  SPEAKER_05: Wow.
• 1:18:29
  SPEAKER_05: Um great singer.
• 1:18:33
  SPEAKER_05: Uh but Don Barnes is a great singer too.
• 1:18:36
  SPEAKER_05: I love you know, and I'm glad that he's back with 38 Special.
• 1:18:39
  SPEAKER_05: I do like Max Carl a lot, his his voice.
• 1:18:43
  SPEAKER_05: So anyway, that's the album.
• 1:18:45
  SPEAKER_05: That's from 1991.
• 1:18:46
  SPEAKER_05: Bone Against Steel from 38 Special.
• 1:18:50
  SPEAKER_05: Um kind of a do I want to say an underrated band?
• 1:18:57
  SPEAKER_05: I mean they're known for their they're known for their a few hits, right?
• 1:19:01
  SPEAKER_00: Well, unfortunately that album was probably buried by you know Yeah.
• 1:19:06
  SPEAKER_00: This was in the January Nirvana and Metallica, yeah.
• 1:19:09
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 1:19:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, so it's just like, wow, did we even put out an album out here?
• 1:19:13
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, right.
• 1:19:14
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:19:14
  SPEAKER_05: And this was their second album, I would imagine, because Second Chance was in the late 80s.
• 1:19:20
  SPEAKER_05: So that was on the first album with Max Carl.
• 1:19:22
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 1:19:22
  SPEAKER_05: Which I don't know what it what it was called.
• 1:19:24
  SPEAKER_05: I should look that out.
• 1:19:25
  SPEAKER_05: But 38 Special.
• 1:19:27
  SPEAKER_05: Uh 38 Special Great Band.
• 1:19:29
  SPEAKER_05: I didn't even have the I was gonna say I didn't even have to give you the hint that it's it's a gun, dog.
• 1:19:34
  SPEAKER_05: It's a gun.
• 1:19:36
  SPEAKER_12: Let's see.
• 1:19:36
  SPEAKER_12: 44 39mm.
• 1:19:42
  SPEAKER_00: That's a man.
• 1:19:43
  SPEAKER_00: Is it Magnum?
• 1:19:44
  SPEAKER_05: Magnum is a band, actually.
• 1:19:52
  SPEAKER_05: That's episode 163.
• 1:20:06
  SPEAKER_00: It's over quicker than you want.
• 1:20:16
  SPEAKER_05: And I uh I already have some sound bites.
• 1:20:19
  SPEAKER_05: Oh you do.
• 1:20:20
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:20:20
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, great.
• 1:20:21
  SPEAKER_05: Because the uh we lost another one.
• 1:20:24
  SPEAKER_05: We lost Bob Barker.
• 1:20:25
  SPEAKER_05: We did, we lost Bob Barker.
• 1:20:26
  SPEAKER_00: I couldn't somebody posted a thing that said.
• 1:20:30
  SPEAKER_00: Did you see you got on you got on under under a dollar?
• 1:20:33
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, that is freaking classic.
• 1:20:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, it is.
• 1:20:36
  SPEAKER_00: Even Bob Barker would have laughed at that one.
• 1:20:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he would have.
• 1:20:38
  SPEAKER_00: That was hilarious.
• 1:20:39
  SPEAKER_00: He would have.
• 1:20:40
  SPEAKER_05: Uh so I got some.
• 1:20:41
  SPEAKER_05: 99 man.
• 1:20:42
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 1:20:42
  SPEAKER_05: Holy cow.
• 1:20:43
  SPEAKER_05: Um Betty White was 99.
• 1:20:45
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:20:45
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:20:46
  SPEAKER_05: Um, you just can't reach that 100 mark.
• 1:20:48
  SPEAKER_05: I know.
• 1:20:49
  SPEAKER_05: So I got some Bob Barker cuts that I think you're gonna like.
• 1:20:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that'll that'll be awesome.
• 1:20:53
  SPEAKER_00: Is one of them from Happy Gilmore?
• 1:20:55
  SPEAKER_00: No, it's not.
• 1:20:57
  SPEAKER_05: That's the best.
• 1:20:58
  SPEAKER_05: That is I can look for another one maybe, but I'll let I'll show you what I got, and then we'll we'll go for that.
• 1:21:03
  SPEAKER_00: Him on Happy Gilmore was just the best.
• 1:21:06
  SPEAKER_05: Actually, my they they did a uh memorium piece on the news for Bob Barker, and and my kids one of my kids was watching it, and and he looks at me and he goes, When can we watch Happy Gilmore?
• 1:21:17
  SPEAKER_05: Because they haven't seen Happy Gilmore yet.
• 1:21:19
  SPEAKER_00: That is one of the funniest movies ever made.
• 1:21:22
  SPEAKER_05: I think because I didn't know that's PG 13, right?
• 1:21:26
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's not that bad.
• 1:21:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:21:28
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you know, there's there's some language, but there isn't really anything.
• 1:21:32
  SPEAKER_05: They've heard worse.
• 1:21:32
  SPEAKER_00: So I mean they can watch that.
• 1:21:33
  SPEAKER_00: It's just it's just Adam Sandler humor, but it is so that movie is just great.
• 1:21:38
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:21:38
  SPEAKER_00: So great.
• 1:21:39
  SPEAKER_00: Because I hated Billy Madison.
• 1:21:41
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I know.
• 1:21:41
  SPEAKER_00: But when Happy Gilmore came out, I was just like, that is.
• 1:21:44
  SPEAKER_05: And my boys, because it's a sports movie, basically, my boys would eat that up.
• 1:21:47
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, absolutely.
• 1:21:48
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, they're gonna love that movie.
• 1:21:49
  SPEAKER_05: So maybe I'll let them watch that.
• 1:21:50
  SPEAKER_00: You eat priestess of crap for breakfast?
• 1:21:53
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 1:21:57
  SPEAKER_00: Did you see that old thing?
• 1:21:59
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 1:22:00
  SPEAKER_00: It was Adam Sandler and that guy that played Shooter McGee.
• 1:22:03
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
• 1:22:04
  SPEAKER_00: They did this thing where Adam uh recreated the uh the happy Gilmore shot.
• 1:22:09
  SPEAKER_00: I saw his.
• 1:22:10
  SPEAKER_00: Did he do another one?
• 1:22:12
  SPEAKER_00: He did one and another one.
• 1:22:13
  SPEAKER_00: It was just like shooter's coming at you, baby.
• 1:22:16
  SPEAKER_05: I didn't see shooters, but I saw Adam.
• 1:22:18
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:22:18
  SPEAKER_05: And yeah, yeah.
• 1:22:19
  SPEAKER_05: Alright, that's episode 163.
• 1:22:22
  SPEAKER_05: Uh we're gonna wrap it up and uh we'll be back at you next week.
• 1:22:25
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, for 164, right?
• 1:22:29
  SPEAKER_00: We're getting up there.
• 1:22:30
  SPEAKER_00: Just let Doug let just let Doug smile your sweater.
• 1:22:33
  SPEAKER_00: You had pizza.
• 1:22:35
  SPEAKER_00: I like pizza.
• 1:22:36
  SPEAKER_01: Like picking it to you.
• 1:22:38
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• 1:23:08
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