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Chuck & Buck 12-17 Hour 3: Super Bowl or bust? NBA Expansion update and who's a go for tomorrow? · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Fright eight o'clock hour here on this humpday, we still
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Speaker 1: will Green Jacket Draft a preview the college football Playoff
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Speaker 1: coming up in a little bit. Also, we talked some
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Speaker 1: NBA expansion that news coming out to yesterday from Adam
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Speaker 1: Silver as he was there present for the NBA Cup,
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Speaker 1: which is an awesome event.
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Speaker 2: It's maybe one of the better events any sports league's
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Speaker 2: ever come up with in the way they.
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Speaker 3: Do that in season.
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Speaker 2: I love it so much other games and then they
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Speaker 2: get so into it that they paint those immaculate floors right.
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Speaker 1: That aren't gaudy at all.
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Speaker 3: Don't make me want to close my eyes.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, don't give us a headache when we watch. It's
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Speaker 1: an awesome event. Keep doing it, Adam Silver. Everything you
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Speaker 1: touch turns to gold.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're not even remotely alien like.
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Speaker 4: Right right.
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Speaker 1: The NBA Cup was a brilliant idea from a brilliant man.
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Speaker 3: Bravoser.
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Speaker 1: If you are on a roll, keep the good ideas coming.
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Speaker 3: This statement was not red.
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Speaker 1: So yes, we did get some news on that front
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Speaker 1: that a decision will be made in the year twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty six in regards to expansion. He's not going to
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Speaker 1: put Vegas and Seattle through that any longer. So we'll
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Speaker 1: talk about that a little bit later on in the hour,
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Speaker 1: start to get into it. But of course, we have
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Speaker 1: a monstrous football game that's going to take place tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: I was asked on our very airwaves yesterday that if
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Speaker 1: this turns out to be a victory tomorrow, does it
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Speaker 1: turn into a super Bowl or bust season for the
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Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks. I hadn't even given that any thought, just
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Speaker 1: kind of had to come up with an answer on
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Speaker 1: the spot. But my immediate reaction was no. And I
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Speaker 1: do think that there are teams that do face that.
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Speaker 1: I think that there are teams out there that super
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Speaker 1: Bowl or bust. I think the Kansas City Chiefs have
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Speaker 1: won so much. I don't think that finishing runner up
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Speaker 1: or making it to the semifinals of the AFC is
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Speaker 1: satisfying for them. It probably is good if the Chiefs
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Speaker 1: are on decline that they're busting out right now. I
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Speaker 1: think it's given them a clear indication that, you know,
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Speaker 1: we just can't just adjust a few things. We probably
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Speaker 1: do need to make some serious changes roster wise, maybe
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Speaker 1: even coaching staff wise going forward. I think that has
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Speaker 1: forced them into a situation where hey, we win super
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Speaker 1: bowls around here, and if we're not even close, we
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Speaker 1: gotta reconvene. We got to gather up, and we got
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Speaker 1: to try to see what it takes to get back
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Speaker 1: on that path. I think the Buffalo Bills are a
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Speaker 1: super Bowl or bust kind of team. I think that
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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills don't win the Super Bowl this year,
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Speaker 1: especially with the Chiefs not in their path and potentially
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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson not in their path and Joe Burrow not
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Speaker 1: in their path. If Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills
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Speaker 1: don't win the championship this year, then that mountain toward
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Speaker 1: the championship looks even larger. Next season. The climb looks
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Speaker 1: even steeper, the challenge looks even more daunting, the pressure
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Speaker 1: gets even greater on them, the weight and their backpacks
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Speaker 1: as they climb that ill gets even heavier, and so
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Speaker 1: for them, I think it's boom or bust. I think
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Speaker 1: that anything short of a Super Bowl championship for Buffalo
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Speaker 1: this year is a disaster. It's a failure, and I
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Speaker 1: don't like saying that, you know. I think that a
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Speaker 1: lot of fan bases get into this habit of if
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Speaker 1: we don't win the Championshi anything about a championships a failure.
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Speaker 1: I don't see that being the case, and I don't
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Speaker 1: see that being the case with the Seahawks either. I
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Speaker 1: think that they're ahead of schedule and the Mike McDonald era.
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Speaker 1: I think that they win this they get home field advantage,
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Speaker 1: they got a good chance to get into the super Bowl.
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Speaker 1: But no matter how this thing ends this year, sure
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Speaker 1: it can have the taste of disappointment, but I think
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Speaker 1: that you start next season feeling like, man, we might
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Speaker 1: be the team to beat. I think it's a growth
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Speaker 1: period for them. Even if you lose your last game
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Speaker 1: of the year this year, I think this has been
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Speaker 1: a highly successful year and it points in such a
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Speaker 1: positive direction for this team that No, I don't think
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Speaker 1: this is a super Bowl or bust season for this
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Speaker 1: football team.
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Speaker 5: I don't think it's a super Bowl or bust team either.
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Speaker 5: I mean a season for this team. I think the
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Speaker 5: team very likely could go all the way. To me,
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Speaker 5: I think there's you know, when you're just talking about
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Speaker 5: some of the team's Kansas City, I think theirs is
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Speaker 5: legitimately win the Super Bowl or or it's not what
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Speaker 5: we think we're capable of. I think they're the only
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Speaker 5: team that probably has the win super I think Buffalo
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Speaker 5: Bills would be like a they need to get there,
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Speaker 5: especially now that they don't have homes in the way,
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Speaker 5: which has been the bugaboo and then the occasional burrow
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Speaker 5: or one time burrow, and that them jumping up there
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Speaker 5: and sniper and knocking the Chiefs off that pedestal. I
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Speaker 5: think this is the best opportunity for them, and yet
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Speaker 5: I don't see. I think maybe the Rams might be
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Speaker 5: the next closest thing, but that's because they have won
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Speaker 5: one recently, and they have a veteran quarterback and aging quarterback.
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Speaker 5: They kind of it's not a new coach. They know
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Speaker 5: who they are, they know what they bring to the table.
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Speaker 5: They they feel probably coming into the season, hey, let's
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Speaker 5: do what we got to do and see how maybe
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Speaker 5: some of the bounces going here and there, and if
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Speaker 5: we find ourselves, you know, up there in the top
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Speaker 5: of the NFC, you know, we feel like we have
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Speaker 5: a good as good of a chance as anybody else
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Speaker 5: in the NFC to get to the Super Bowl. But
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Speaker 5: I don't know for sure if they're even in that
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Speaker 5: category that I would put the Chiefs prior to this season,
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Speaker 5: starting of it's win it all or not.
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Speaker 4: I think this.
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Speaker 5: I think the Seahawks, it could a lot could weigh
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Speaker 5: in how the next three games go of whether or
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Speaker 5: not this is a I think this team, no matter
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Speaker 5: how the next three games go, is going to be
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Speaker 5: in the playoffs, and they're they're going to be a
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Speaker 5: dangerous team because of how good that defense is, even
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Speaker 5: if they have to go on the road. We've seen
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Speaker 5: under Mike McDonald the going on the road doesn't seem
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Speaker 5: to be a giant issue now. Going on the road
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Speaker 5: in whether during in January against playoff caliber teams is
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Speaker 5: a different thing than going to New Orleans, you know,
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Speaker 5: for a game or something along those lines. So to me,
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Speaker 5: I think that the Seattle I think the Seahawks have
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Speaker 5: played themselves with three weeks left to the end of
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Speaker 5: the season into I could legitimately see how in the
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Speaker 5: next two weeks we're talking about this is the best
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Speaker 5: team in the NFL possibly and so getting to the
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Speaker 5: super Bowl. Anything less than that could be disappointing, but
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Speaker 5: not necessarily bust.
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Speaker 4: And winning the Super Bowl is a whole different ballgame.
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Speaker 5: I don't think there's anybody that's left in the equation
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Speaker 5: that should be thinking, if we don't win the super Bowl,
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Speaker 5: it's a failed season. I just I think there's really
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Speaker 5: one team, and that's Kansasy Chiefs that maybe should have.
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Speaker 4: Buffalo in that.
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Speaker 1: I'd put Buffalo in that because if Buffalo doesn't win
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Speaker 1: it this year, like I said, everything looks more difficult
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Speaker 1: for them, and I think Sean McDermott does get fired.
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Speaker 1: I think that they would get to the end of
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Speaker 1: the season and say where can't win it With Sean McDermott.
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Speaker 5: If they got to super Bowl, they lost the super Bowl,
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Speaker 5: you think they'd fire him.
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Speaker 1: Maybe not.
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Speaker 5: That's still a step, that's still a step in the direction.
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Speaker 5: That's why I mean, I don't think there's this win
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Speaker 5: the super Bowl. Let's get to the super Bowl, or.
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Speaker 1: I would bet you that Buffalo is really rethinking how
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Speaker 1: they've built the roster. I guarantee you. I won't guarantee
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Speaker 1: it if they made it to the super Bowl. But
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Speaker 1: even if they lost the super Bowl, I think Sean
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Speaker 1: McDermott's jobs and I think this might be his last
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Speaker 1: chance to try to pull the show that he's the guy.
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Speaker 1: He's facing a lot of criticism this year, and he
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Speaker 1: for wasting Josh Allen's prime. And I think for sure
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Speaker 1: the general manager is on blast, like, get the guy
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Speaker 1: some damn weapons. You know that many weapons? Ye, so
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Speaker 1: James Cooks a weapon. But I do believe that they
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Speaker 1: would do some serious soul searching and make serious changes
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Speaker 1: where comparing that to the Seahawks, they could lose their
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Speaker 1: last three games. Mike McDonald's our head coach next year,
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Speaker 1: John Schneider is our general manager. Sam Donald's our quarterback.
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Speaker 1: Jsn's our number one receiver, and everybody in the organization
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Speaker 1: feels like they are ahead of schedule and are Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you lost all three, that would be
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Speaker 1: a crutching way in this season, not even making the playoffs.
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Speaker 1: I'm not really even entertaining that scenario. But even if
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Speaker 1: you lost your last game, no matter when it occurs,
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Speaker 1: I think the Seahawks feel like, man, we are on
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Speaker 1: a great path right now versus Buffalo. I think they
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Speaker 1: could win, lose the Super Bowl and still consider getting
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Speaker 1: rid of their coach, making some major changes to the
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Speaker 1: roster and so forth.
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Speaker 2: And I think a lot of it has to do
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Speaker 2: with the expectations going into the season. Right, Buffalo was
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Speaker 2: expected to win twelve thirteen something games. Right, they were
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Speaker 2: expected to do really well. And so as now you
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Speaker 2: have no, you don't have the Chiefs to deal with
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Speaker 2: your super Bowl or bust plans kind of got bust.
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Speaker 3: Yer really right?
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Speaker 1: You have your equation.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, your expectations are higher.
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Speaker 2: And if you don't at least make it to the
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Speaker 2: super Bowl because now you don't have the Chiefs to
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Speaker 2: knock you out, I mean, that's what their fans are thinking.
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Speaker 3: I'm sure.
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Speaker 2: Whereas the Seahawks, I think you've now put yourself into.
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Speaker 3: The playoffs or bust.
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Speaker 2: If you don't make the play playoffs at this point,
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Speaker 2: people are going to be really mad.
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Speaker 1: I give you.
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Speaker 3: But as far as super Bowl or bust, No, Now, now.
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Speaker 2: Coming through this season and the surprise kind of that
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Speaker 2: we've had of how well this team has done, I
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Speaker 2: think you go into next year and you're you're now
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Speaker 2: going to be really looking at that is it a
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Speaker 2: possible super Bowl or bust ahead of going into next season,
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Speaker 2: just because you've had this success and now this is
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Speaker 2: Mike McDonald.
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Speaker 3: That would be Mike McDonald's third year. Now your expectations
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Speaker 3: are a whole lot higher, but I think.
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Speaker 1: Right now, having having this season and then you start
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Speaker 1: next year, Yeah, it is. I don't know if it's
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl or bust, but it's.
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Speaker 2: An expectation of the actually, at least to the NFC Championship.
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Speaker 1: We're Yeah, this is you're you're you're getting the team together,
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Speaker 1: and it is we're winning the Super Bowl.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Sure, that's that's going to be your start to next season.
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Speaker 4: You're right.
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Speaker 1: If you collapse completely and somehow statistically marvelously don't make
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Speaker 1: the playoffs, uh, that that would be crushing. Yeah, considering
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Speaker 1: where you are at this point, and then maybe there
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Speaker 1: is a little bit of of soul searching. But assuming
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Speaker 1: you make the playoffs, which means you've got to win
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Speaker 1: one of your next three games, after that point you lose,
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Speaker 1: I still think that you're feeling awesome going into the
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Speaker 1: off season about the direction that you're in. But you're right,
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Speaker 1: the expectations at the beginning of next year, they're ratcheted up,
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Speaker 1: and that's what you want. You want the expectations, and
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Speaker 1: I think that they're bring them all on. I think
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Speaker 1: that that's where the organization is right now. But I
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Speaker 1: do think I mean Baltimore Ravens. They're a team that
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Speaker 1: if they don't somehow get into the playoffs.
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Speaker 3: This year, a massive disappointment.
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Speaker 1: Massive disappointment, and I think they entertain some changes organizationally
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Speaker 1: this offseason. I don't think they would take that lightly
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Speaker 1: in Baltimore. Pittsburgh right now is obviously going through something
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Speaker 1: where I don't know if it's Super Bowl or bust,
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Speaker 1: but they're I mean, they are booing one of the
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Speaker 1: most successful destined for the Hall of Fame head coaches.
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Speaker 1: They're chanting fire Tomlin every single home game for three
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Speaker 1: quarters at a time. So obviously Pittsburgh's going through a
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Speaker 1: little bit of do we have to kind of shape
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Speaker 1: things up? Do we have to change things up this offseason?
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Speaker 1: Where I don't see the Seahawks being a part of
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Speaker 1: that conversation whatsoever, barring we go zero to three and
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Speaker 1: somehow don't miss don't make the playoffs.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, which is I mean, have to be some crazy
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Speaker 5: opposite of a miracle that would have to happen.
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Speaker 4: So I mean, I'm with you on that.
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Speaker 5: I mean, I just think that right now you're sitting
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Speaker 5: inyar two of Mike McDonald and you're feeling good about it,
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Speaker 5: You're feeling great about it, okay, and then you have
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Speaker 5: a giant game coming tomorrow, another big game, another important
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Speaker 5: game against a team that's shooting for a playoff spot
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Speaker 5: in the Carolina Panthers. And then you're the final one
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Speaker 5: where you book in the season against the Niners, who
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Speaker 5: you know, one of your division rivals and they're fighting
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Speaker 5: for a spot in the playoffs as well. I mean,
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Speaker 5: I think that right now, it's like playoff football starting.
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Speaker 5: It starts tomorrow for the Seahawks, and it's one of
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Speaker 5: those You've got to go out and play your style
12:36
Speaker 5: of football, right and we know what it is. This
12:38
Speaker 5: isn't we're getting towards the end of the season. This
12:41
Speaker 5: defense is going to keep teams in the game. You're
12:45
Speaker 5: going to keep your team in the game. The offense
12:48
Speaker 5: can be absolutely potent. I mean they're you look at
12:51
Speaker 5: all their different numbers and they're tops in the leagues
12:54
Speaker 5: and like points per play, so basically they can strike
12:57
Speaker 5: and they can strike quick. And then sometimes what we
12:59
Speaker 5: basically talked about multiple times throughout the show.
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Speaker 4: Today, they revert back to.
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Speaker 5: But we got to make sure they know we'll still
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Speaker 5: just grind it out on him, Well, yeah, or you
13:07
Speaker 5: could just keep hitting JSN who's uncoverable apparently, and just
13:11
Speaker 5: keep you know, now you're finally getting a rapport with
13:14
Speaker 5: rashi Ji. Those two and Cooper Cup can be a
13:17
Speaker 5: nice little blanket that, you know, for a third down
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Speaker 5: conversion here and there. I think that the team needs
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Speaker 5: to just figure out, this is what our identity is,
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Speaker 5: and regardless of how they do that, we know that
13:27
Speaker 5: this team now is heading in the right direction, that
13:29
Speaker 5: you've got the coach you want. If people want to
13:32
Speaker 5: doubt Sam donald whether or not he's your franchise guy,
13:35
Speaker 5: well he's your franchise guy this year.
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Speaker 4: You're riding or dying with him right now.
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Speaker 5: I don't think he's going anywhere next year unless for
13:41
Speaker 5: some reason you got in on a borough sweepstakes. That's
13:44
Speaker 5: maybe the only thing you think you're upgrade, and otherwise
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Speaker 5: you're not drafting the quarterback and replacing Sam Donalds. I
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Speaker 5: think you could have some roster shakeup, you know, some
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Speaker 5: places on the line. Possibly, who knows what they're thinking
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Speaker 5: with ken Walker. I mean, maybe he just isn't. Maybe
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Speaker 5: he isn't the guy that's supposed to be tot.
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Speaker 4: In the rockets.
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Speaker 1: Thinks anyway, Ken Walker's back here next.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, well he's on the end last year of his contract,
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Speaker 5: so you're gonna have some some roster movement.
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Speaker 4: But everybody has roster movement.
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Speaker 5: I think in general, though, the point of they know
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Speaker 5: who they are, they know what they got, and they
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Speaker 5: are happy with where they're at. That doesn't change in
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Speaker 5: the slightest if they don't get to and or win
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Speaker 5: the Super Bowl.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I think the Chargers are a similar team to the
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Speaker 1: Seahawks second year of a new coaching regime. Show progress
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Speaker 1: in the first year, showed even more progress in the
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Speaker 1: second year. Looks like they are destined for the playoffs.
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Speaker 1: If they crash and burn somehow before the end of
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Speaker 1: the season, sure, that's going to be crushingly disappointing. But
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Speaker 1: I think that the Los Angeles Chargers would get to
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Speaker 1: the end of the year and say to themselves, love
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Speaker 1: our head coach, love our quarterback. He's still young and
14:49
Speaker 1: maybe and is in his prime right now. Man, if
14:53
Speaker 1: we would add just healthier offensive lineman this season, who
14:58
Speaker 1: knows what we could have pomplished this year. But I
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Speaker 1: think that that's a similar story to what the Seahawks
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Speaker 1: are operating the Chargers no matter how they lost in
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Speaker 1: the playoffs, I still think that they're celebrating their season
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Speaker 1: and feeling like, man, we are just scratching the surface. Fellas.
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Speaker 1: Let you know, next year we went it off. Just
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Speaker 1: as Ashley said, I think that that's the start of
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Speaker 1: the Chargers season next year. Yeah, you always put on
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Speaker 1: the bulletin bore. We're not going to eliminate any kind
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Speaker 1: of goal like the super Bowl. We're here to win
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, right, But I don't know if you
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Speaker 1: really believe that when the season started, if you're the
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Speaker 1: se if you're a Seahawks fan or a Charger fan,
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Speaker 1: or even somebody that's inside the building. Next year, though,
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Speaker 1: that's what you're saying, and you are meaning it, and
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Speaker 1: it is on the chalkboard for a reason. You believe
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Speaker 1: the progress you've made in two years in this new regime,
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Speaker 1: the quarterback that you have, the things that you've learned,
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Speaker 1: the roster adjustments that undoubtedly every team will make to
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Speaker 1: fine tune the product in the next year, feeling like
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Speaker 1: we are a super Bowl team and we will accept
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Speaker 1: nothing else.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we did those tiers at the beginning of the
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Speaker 2: season where we put every team in it, and the
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Speaker 2: Seahawks were. I think that we decided, most of us
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Speaker 2: decided they were underestimated. We thought they were going to
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Speaker 2: be We know we're better than other people think we are.
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Speaker 2: Something along those lines. Yeah, and that, and I agree
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Speaker 2: they are better than most people I think thought they
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Speaker 2: were at.
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Speaker 3: The beginning of the season.
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Speaker 2: And I think it would have been unrealistic for anyone
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Speaker 2: to have Super Bowl expectations going into Mike McDonald's second year.
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Speaker 2: Now it's been an awesome, wonderful, pleasant surprise to see
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Speaker 2: how well they've been doing. But yeah, there's no way
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Speaker 2: in hell you go into next season not having super
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Speaker 2: Bowl expectations.
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Speaker 1: In the meantime, why not win the Super Bowl?
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Do it when nobody expected you to.
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Speaker 1: I wasn't expected. I mean, I think I picked the
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Speaker 1: Seahawks to go twelve and five, which is pretty aggressive. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: maybe I said eleven and six with the chance to
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Speaker 1: go twelve and five. Remember, given myself a win ones. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: uh so I had really high expectations. But even I
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Speaker 1: did not think at any moment the nation would be
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Speaker 1: having the suggestion is this the best team in the NFL? Now,
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Speaker 1: Usually what they say in these national broadcasts, this might
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Speaker 1: be the best team in the NFC. You don't hear
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Speaker 1: them say a lot that this might be the best
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Speaker 1: team in the entire league. But you've heard it all.
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Speaker 1: You've heard it every week, and man, during Sunday's broadcasts,
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Speaker 1: you must have heard it fifteen times from the broadcast
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Speaker 1: team that this might They just throwing it in just casually. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we're on your face, and what might be the best
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Speaker 1: team in the NFC. I didn't think we were going
17:36
Speaker 1: to hear the nation have that conversation about this year's
17:40
Speaker 1: version of the Seahawks, But yeah, I think we are
17:44
Speaker 1: in that conversation. And part of it is that Philadelphia
17:47
Speaker 1: is not as good as they were a year ago.
17:48
Speaker 1: And part of that is Kansas City's not as good
17:51
Speaker 1: as they were a year obviously, not as good as
17:53
Speaker 1: they what they were a year ago. Part of it
17:55
Speaker 1: is Baltimore's not the team that we thought they were
17:57
Speaker 1: going to be. Part of it is that the Broncos
18:00
Speaker 1: and Patriots have the two best records in the National
18:03
Speaker 1: Football League. And I don't think that I expected them
18:07
Speaker 1: to be in that conversation either. But here we sit,
18:11
Speaker 1: in year number two of the Mike McDonald era, and
18:14
Speaker 1: we have had a chunk of this season where not
18:18
Speaker 1: just local bias, but national guys who are always shy
18:24
Speaker 1: of giving Seattle the credit that they deserve have entered
18:28
Speaker 1: them into the conversation as is this really the best
18:32
Speaker 1: team in the league. I think that's an accomplishment in
18:34
Speaker 1: its own right.
18:35
Speaker 4: Oh, it's definitely an accomplishment in its own right.
18:37
Speaker 5: I think this season in general, though, like you were,
18:40
Speaker 5: just kind of outlying, is part of the reason why
18:43
Speaker 5: there's been a lot of teams that have been kind
18:45
Speaker 5: of thrust into that conversation. Right, The Rams were for
18:47
Speaker 5: a minute, and it seemed like there for about four
18:49
Speaker 5: or five weeks. Whoever got that Moniker bestowed upon them
18:54
Speaker 5: for the week leading up to it, because how dominant
18:56
Speaker 5: their performance was and they're leading their division, they would
19:00
Speaker 5: fall on their face. They would have a backsliding moment
19:03
Speaker 5: to some degree. And I think it's in large part
19:04
Speaker 5: because a lot of people don't believe that Denver's for real,
19:08
Speaker 5: or that New England is for real, and the second
19:11
Speaker 5: year of Drake May in the first year with Rabel there,
19:13
Speaker 5: and because the Chiefs most certainly the Chiefs and the Eagles.
19:17
Speaker 5: The two teams that were fighting it out last year,
19:19
Speaker 5: they've fallen back. One's fallen out at this point, the
19:22
Speaker 5: other one's falling back. It allows to where like, wait
19:25
Speaker 5: a minute, so these other teams, and I think the
19:27
Speaker 5: Rams are basically the consensus right now, the favorite.
19:30
Speaker 1: They're in the most consistent of all the teams.
19:32
Speaker 4: And it's because they're good and because they're proven.
19:37
Speaker 5: Bo It's like now Buffalo coming back and beating New
19:41
Speaker 5: England all of a sudden thrust them back into the
19:43
Speaker 5: conversation bit more. You know, So now all of a sudden,
19:46
Speaker 5: you're getting back into if the it's just say, I
19:49
Speaker 5: don't know how the whole thing's going to shake out
19:50
Speaker 5: across the board, but if it just shakes out the
19:52
Speaker 5: way it is kind of right now, or Buffalo ends
19:54
Speaker 5: up tied or winning the the their division. If you
19:59
Speaker 5: end up seeing that, I think most people are gonna
20:01
Speaker 5: be like I can see it being the Rams and
20:03
Speaker 5: the Buffalo Bills in the Super Bowl because of the
20:06
Speaker 5: provenness and who they have at the quarterback position. It's
20:08
Speaker 5: something that more people believe in.
20:10
Speaker 1: To me, it's all signs point to Seattle versus the Jaguars,
20:14
Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl.
20:15
Speaker 4: Wow, I don't know what sign.
20:17
Speaker 3: Write a bold statement there?
20:19
Speaker 1: All right? Coming up next? NBA News yesterday, Yeah, Adam Silver,
20:25
Speaker 1: it's about time to you know, expand or get off
20:28
Speaker 1: the pot. We'll discuss it.
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Speaker 6: Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
20:42
Speaker 1: More on Seahawks Rams coming up. But then again, we've
20:45
Speaker 1: got a football team, we don't have a basketball team.
20:47
Speaker 1: And so big news yesterday from the National Basketball Association
20:52
Speaker 1: Number one, an NBA Cup champion was crowned and it
20:57
Speaker 1: was thrilling, and I hope A Silver was listening because
21:01
Speaker 1: he sure makes great decisions.
21:03
Speaker 3: Don't need to read the part about how you really
21:05
Speaker 3: liked his suit.
21:07
Speaker 1: I mean seriously, though, I mean when the when the
21:10
Speaker 1: conversation after your little n season tournament is about whether
21:14
Speaker 1: or not the team that won it should be embarrassed.
21:18
Speaker 3: That's not good.
21:19
Speaker 1: Do you have you have you come up with a
21:20
Speaker 1: good idea or no? I guess the ratings are really
21:23
Speaker 1: good and and the nick certainly looked like they they
21:28
Speaker 1: enjoyed themselves winning the Cup championship last night. But the
21:32
Speaker 1: conversation immediately was are they really going to hang a banner?
21:36
Speaker 1: You should be embarrassed.
21:38
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean, I'm not going to put my
21:42
Speaker 5: I'm not going to bring my thoughts into it because
21:44
Speaker 5: because we don't have a team, I don't tend to
21:47
Speaker 5: spend a lot of time in the NBA at this
21:50
Speaker 5: point in time. It's spread out amongst other things that
21:53
Speaker 5: are that we talk about a little bit more. And
21:55
Speaker 5: so yesterday I'm scrolling through and I go to ESPN
21:59
Speaker 5: or something and I see, I don't know who it was,
22:01
Speaker 5: it was one of the Knicks players and he's got
22:03
Speaker 5: a shirt that says champions and it says twenty twenty
22:06
Speaker 5: five on it, and he's got that championship hat, and
22:08
Speaker 5: I'm like, the Knicks didn't win it last year. How
22:11
Speaker 5: could Oh, that's right, it was the NBA. Oh that's right.
22:14
Speaker 5: I did know that was going on. They didn't know
22:17
Speaker 5: the finals were happening last night. So, and I mean,
22:20
Speaker 5: I do get paid to watch sports, so it's like
22:22
Speaker 5: I keep up with.
22:23
Speaker 4: It, but it doesn't really even resonate.
22:25
Speaker 7: Now.
22:25
Speaker 5: There's a lot of other people out there that love
22:27
Speaker 5: the NBA and they were following it and maybe they
22:29
Speaker 5: love it. But I'll just say, because we still want
22:32
Speaker 5: a team here, I loved it exactly.
22:34
Speaker 3: I could not wait to get home and have it
22:37
Speaker 3: on that TV.
22:39
Speaker 1: What a tremendous idea. I watched every second.
22:42
Speaker 2: I definitely did not walk into my living room and think, oh,
22:46
Speaker 2: it's the NBA Cup Finals.
22:48
Speaker 3: I did not know that.
22:50
Speaker 4: You didn't think that.
22:51
Speaker 3: I did not think that.
22:52
Speaker 1: He has very clearly instructed all of the people that
22:56
Speaker 1: have NBA rights, like, you will talk good about this.
22:59
Speaker 1: You will talk, you will say superlatives about it. I
23:02
Speaker 1: mean even Charge even whipped Charles and Kenny and Shack
23:06
Speaker 1: into line. Yes, he did to stop talk because they
23:09
Speaker 1: were destroying it when the when the idea, and he
23:13
Speaker 1: got to them and told him you stop doing it.
23:15
Speaker 1: And so all the networks are acting like it's a
23:18
Speaker 1: big deal. And I guess the ratings are pretty good,
23:20
Speaker 1: so maybe maybe it is better than what I'm presently
23:24
Speaker 1: giving it credit for. But it really does seem silly,
23:27
Speaker 1: like the height of absurdity. But nonetheless, yesterday news that
23:32
Speaker 1: impacted us here in Seattle. Adam Silver was interviewed at
23:35
Speaker 1: the big NBA Cup Final because it was a major event,
23:39
Speaker 1: and he said that yes, we are going to expand
23:42
Speaker 1: in twenty or no, let me take that back. We
23:45
Speaker 1: will make the announcement on expansion in twenty twenty six.
23:50
Speaker 1: So he didn't commit to we are going to expand
23:52
Speaker 1: he just pretty much said, we've been stretching this out
23:56
Speaker 1: long enough. We've been keeping Vegas in Seattle on the
23:59
Speaker 1: edge of their seat. We're not going to put them
24:02
Speaker 1: through this any longer. We will make an announcement definitively
24:05
Speaker 1: and the calendar year of twenty twenty six about what
24:09
Speaker 1: our expansion plans are. And he did mention the other
24:13
Speaker 1: aspect of it, He said, and other teams that we're considering.
24:17
Speaker 1: It was Seattle, Vegas and other teams that we were considering.
24:21
Speaker 1: So what can we read into this? Is what I
24:24
Speaker 1: read into it. Seattle and Vegas are the only two
24:26
Speaker 1: possibilities if they are going to expand we're going to
24:29
Speaker 1: get a franchise. And then the other thing that I
24:31
Speaker 1: read into it is that I didn't have to read
24:34
Speaker 1: into it. They will make the announcement in twenty twenty six,
24:36
Speaker 1: the calendar year, and I read into it that they
24:39
Speaker 1: are going to expand. I don't think that he would
24:42
Speaker 1: have gone out of his way to discuss it as
24:44
Speaker 1: much as he did if he was planning on pulling
24:46
Speaker 1: the rug out of those from underneath those two cities.
24:49
Speaker 4: Yeah.
24:49
Speaker 5: I mean he had mentioned kind of the difference between
24:52
Speaker 5: you know, they're wanting to expand to like an international league,
24:55
Speaker 5: but this is different. Expanding here is different. You're cutting
24:58
Speaker 5: a couple more pieces into the pie of the owners,
25:01
Speaker 5: and so they're trying to figure out that. They're trying
25:03
Speaker 5: to get these billionaires to just be like, hey, it'll
25:06
Speaker 5: help the league if you get bring in two more markets,
25:09
Speaker 5: even though now you're getting one thirty second, you're you're
25:11
Speaker 5: worth one thirty second of the league.
25:13
Speaker 4: Blah blah blah.
25:15
Speaker 5: But the way in which he went through it, he's,
25:17
Speaker 5: you know, kind of almost apologetic to some degree of like,
25:19
Speaker 5: I know that people feel like we've kind of been
25:21
Speaker 5: teasing them, stringing them along here because they're in Vegas
25:25
Speaker 5: here and and in Seattle. And then he went on
25:27
Speaker 5: to say Seattle's had a team and they were very
25:30
Speaker 5: successful there. We think Las Vegas can support a team
25:33
Speaker 5: here even though they have all these other sports.
25:36
Speaker 4: You know, we have a WNBA and.
25:39
Speaker 5: Just so you know, well they can because people just
25:42
Speaker 5: travel there from out of town to watch their team
25:45
Speaker 5: play against them I mean the teams themselves, the Vegas.
25:48
Speaker 1: They can support Raiders a struggle, but they can't support
25:52
Speaker 1: all the teams that they have. Somebody is going to lose.
25:54
Speaker 1: Maybe it's not the NBA.
25:55
Speaker 3: Because they've got baseball going there too.
25:57
Speaker 5: It just feels like so far, like you know, the
26:00
Speaker 5: Nights are doing well, the Raiders are doing well. I mean,
26:02
Speaker 5: any NBA or NFL team is going to play because
26:05
Speaker 5: people but it just because it's such a destination. It
26:07
Speaker 5: just feels like teams just are like, I'll go watch
26:09
Speaker 5: my team play there. It's like a home game almost
26:11
Speaker 5: because more and more opposing fans go. But I read
26:15
Speaker 5: into it that it's happening. It's just a matter of when.
26:18
Speaker 5: And the nice thing is that they're going to say,
26:20
Speaker 5: definitely in the next year, in twenty twenty six, we're
26:23
Speaker 5: gonna find out.
26:23
Speaker 1: Well, we're going to hold you to that well, and
26:25
Speaker 1: that's but that's otherwise we're gonna stop watching the NBA.
26:27
Speaker 3: Come, oh, don't say I don't think I can do it.
26:31
Speaker 2: That's Here's this is what bothered me is that you
26:34
Speaker 2: had plenty of opportunity to say things like this six
26:37
Speaker 2: months ago, when everybody was expecting that some sort of
26:40
Speaker 2: announcement about expansion was going to come. You could have said,
26:43
Speaker 2: you know what, it's you know, we have we don't
26:45
Speaker 2: have the we haven't had the time to talk about
26:47
Speaker 2: it right now, but this is when we're going to
26:49
Speaker 2: talk about it, and said, he just kind of kept
26:51
Speaker 2: pushing it along. So I do think that, you know, yes,
26:53
Speaker 2: he has been dragging it out and dragging people along.
26:56
Speaker 2: When we had four times last year we were expecting something.
27:01
Speaker 1: I think he had egg on his very handsome face.
27:05
Speaker 3: Yes, such a good looking man, yes, exactly.
27:08
Speaker 1: I think he was surprised at the complications that he
27:12
Speaker 1: ended up confronting and didn't know what to say, so
27:15
Speaker 1: he just kicked the can down the road.
27:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that was the annoying part.
27:18
Speaker 1: I agree that it's annoying, but I also think that
27:21
Speaker 1: he as Commissioner's hands were tied. I I mean, we
27:23
Speaker 1: heard from a lot of reliable sources last year that
27:26
Speaker 1: it was going to happen okay, and so we were
27:29
Speaker 1: going to find out in twenty twenty five, So I
27:32
Speaker 1: think he had every intention of announcing it in twenty
27:34
Speaker 1: twenty five. But to Bucky's point that he was bringing
27:37
Speaker 1: up all of a sudden, some of the owners started
27:39
Speaker 1: being really difficult about it, and you know, and I
27:42
Speaker 1: didn't think he saw that coming. Yeah, and then they also,
27:45
Speaker 1: I think they knew that gambling scandal was coming as well.
27:49
Speaker 1: And so how was that gambling scandal going to go
27:54
Speaker 1: when we're thinking about bringing Vegas into the league? Yeah?
27:57
Speaker 3: True?
27:57
Speaker 1: And so do we announce that and then two months
28:01
Speaker 1: and then run the risk that two days later we've
28:04
Speaker 1: added Vegas and we have a gambling scandal on our hands.
28:07
Speaker 1: So the gambling scandal sort of had its day. It
28:11
Speaker 1: felt horrible for the league at the time, and this
28:15
Speaker 1: is what we do now. We kind of just let
28:17
Speaker 1: it go now.
28:18
Speaker 4: You know.
28:18
Speaker 1: And it feels like he waited for enough of that
28:21
Speaker 1: dust to clear and then he said, Okay, enough enough.
28:25
Speaker 1: And I do feel I do feel I believe him
28:27
Speaker 1: when he says, we can't keep doing this to those
28:29
Speaker 1: two cities. And so yes, Expander, get off the pot,
28:33
Speaker 1: as I said coming into the end of the segment,
28:37
Speaker 1: And I think that he feels that way as well.
28:39
Speaker 1: So I think just from a business standpoint, he got
28:42
Speaker 1: caught off guard by a few things and he couldn't
28:44
Speaker 1: go through with the plan, his calendar, his schedule of events.
28:49
Speaker 1: He couldn't go through with it and didn't know what
28:51
Speaker 1: to say. So he just said nothing and kicked the
28:53
Speaker 1: can down the road. And that's what I'm sure that
28:55
Speaker 1: his lawyers instructed.
28:57
Speaker 4: Him to do.
28:57
Speaker 1: Say as little as possible, don't give anybody any ope
29:00
Speaker 1: until we can figure out we dot these eyes and
29:03
Speaker 1: cross these t's and clear up this red tape and
29:06
Speaker 1: cear up that red tape. And so I think that's
29:08
Speaker 1: what happened to us a year ago. We were victims
29:10
Speaker 1: of circumstance, not victims of Adam Silver in twenty twenty.
29:15
Speaker 1: All right, Coming up next, more on the Hawks and
29:17
Speaker 1: their Thursday night match with the Rams. It's Chucking buck
29:20
Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ R f M.
29:42
Speaker 1: You know what I've heard?
29:44
Speaker 7: Oh?
29:44
Speaker 1: No, what something I've heard? There's a pretty big game tomorrow.
29:48
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, also heard that Christmas is right.
29:51
Speaker 4: Around the corner.
29:52
Speaker 5: No a big game here in that MBA Cup was over,
29:59
Speaker 5: so there's no more big games.
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Speaker 3: Oh I guess yeah, Christmas is next week.
30:05
Speaker 1: See, I just I didn't know.
30:08
Speaker 3: You know, people tomorrow, that's so crazy.
30:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, people talk, you know, you don't know what kind
30:13
Speaker 1: of rumors or gossip to believe. I be I didn't
30:15
Speaker 1: hear that around the neighborhood, Christmas is all.
30:17
Speaker 3: Wait, people are talking talking about people I know.
30:21
Speaker 1: Right Bonnie. Uh and and so I guess the same
30:24
Speaker 1: people that say Christmas is right around the corner might
30:27
Speaker 1: be right that there's a big game tomorrow. It might
30:29
Speaker 1: be Seahawks Rams Thursday Night football. And you know we're
30:33
Speaker 1: gonna roll it out twelfth Man round Table. There's nothing
30:35
Speaker 1: like a game day twelfth Man round table. It's the
30:38
Speaker 1: best thing in the world. It's like celebrating Christmas with Santa.
30:42
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I usually celebrate uh huh.
30:45
Speaker 1: And so we're gonna have our twelfth Man roundtable tomorrow
30:48
Speaker 1: on on game Day, and part of that twelfth Man
30:51
Speaker 1: roundtable will be our Seahawks insider Greg Bell, who gave
30:54
Speaker 1: us an update earlier this morning on the two big
30:57
Speaker 1: injury stories heading into this game, one for the wide
31:00
Speaker 1: receiver Devonte Adams and one for the Hawks left tackle
31:03
Speaker 1: Charles cross Well.
31:05
Speaker 7: They both were estimated not practice again. The Seahawks had
31:08
Speaker 7: a t shirt practice or walked through, and they said
31:11
Speaker 7: if had they had a fuller practice that they estimate
31:15
Speaker 7: that Charles Cross was not a practice with the hamstring
31:18
Speaker 7: issue to Vante Adams, same thing for Los Angeles. Look,
31:22
Speaker 7: hamstring issues are probably the wrong injury to try to
31:26
Speaker 7: go three days rest and play two games on and
31:29
Speaker 7: especially with two teams that are going to be playing
31:33
Speaker 7: in January. So I would be surprised at this point
31:36
Speaker 7: if either one of them play. The word I'm getting
31:39
Speaker 7: from friends of mine that around the Rams in LA
31:42
Speaker 7: say that Adams is probably not going to play. But
31:45
Speaker 7: the McVeigh is kind of doing a little bit of
31:47
Speaker 7: gamesmanship by saying we'll take it up the game time.
31:50
Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure that's what McDonald's going to say the
31:52
Speaker 7: same thing about Charles Cross today. But I would be
31:56
Speaker 7: surprised if either one plays. That means Josh Jones left tackle,
32:01
Speaker 7: and it means probably more of three tight ends for
32:04
Speaker 7: the Rams. They played twenty four and a half percent,
32:08
Speaker 7: almost twenty five percent, one out of every four plays
32:11
Speaker 7: in three tight ends, by far the most in the league.
32:14
Speaker 7: The league average is five percent. Colby Parkinson has been
32:17
Speaker 7: very good for them, the former Seahawks, of course, that
32:20
Speaker 7: they drafted. First four years in the league with Seattle,
32:23
Speaker 7: he's been the primary thrust of that, But they have
32:25
Speaker 7: a Terrence Ferguson, a rookie that also sixty six, two
32:29
Speaker 7: hundred and fifty pounds. Becomes a matchup nightmare when you
32:33
Speaker 7: have to cover Parkinson and Ferguson and a third tight
32:37
Speaker 7: end who has three touchdowns. But I wrote for the
32:40
Speaker 7: News Tribune yesterday, I think the Seahawks and the Seahawks
32:43
Speaker 7: think the Seahawks are uniquely prepared for this because of
32:46
Speaker 7: Nick Emon Warry in particular, they have an asset that
32:49
Speaker 7: not anybody else has. They can mix and match Witherspoon
32:53
Speaker 7: and Emon Worry on if they go three tight ends.
32:56
Speaker 7: They can put Witherspoon on cooking Thekua. They can even
33:00
Speaker 7: put Nick even Warre on poopunkua because we've seen even
33:03
Speaker 7: Warrey even covering Justin Jefferson. So, like I said yesterday,
33:07
Speaker 7: I think Mike McDonald's got unlike any other defense of
33:12
Speaker 7: minor League. I think he's got Sean McVay. I think
33:15
Speaker 7: we may see that again tomorrow night.
33:16
Speaker 1: How about that, Greg bell Arshack, Since if when hear
33:19
Speaker 1: the entire conversation from seven oh five this morning, do
33:21
Speaker 1: so on our podcast ninety three to three kjar dot
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Speaker 1: com a daily podcast for you to use whenever it
33:28
Speaker 1: is convenient for you. Yeah, Nick emon War is a
33:32
Speaker 1: great storyline, been a great storyline all season long, and
33:35
Speaker 1: I think that he plays a big, major impact tomorrow.
33:38
Speaker 1: But getting back to the Charles Cross situation, I really
33:41
Speaker 1: liked what I saw from Josh Jones in the preseason.
33:44
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just preseason games, but he kind of
33:46
Speaker 1: stood out to me. It wasn't just you know, it
33:49
Speaker 1: wasn't just Oh, at least he didn't get Sam or
33:51
Speaker 1: it wasn't even Sam at least he didn't get Drew
33:53
Speaker 1: Locke killed. It wasn't one of those situations. He kind
33:56
Speaker 1: of stood out to me as performing well. And I
34:00
Speaker 1: heard because I followed up with Greg with okay, update
34:05
Speaker 1: me on the James Jones profile scouting report. Here is
34:08
Speaker 1: he better at run blocking or pass blocking? And Greg
34:11
Speaker 1: said pass blocking?
34:12
Speaker 4: That's music to my ears.
34:14
Speaker 1: That's what I want to hear, because I don't I
34:16
Speaker 1: don't want another excuse to try to establish the run tomorrow.
34:20
Speaker 1: I want to be able to throw the football tomorrow
34:23
Speaker 1: night wind or not with Sam Donald and he's gonna
34:26
Speaker 1: need time to do that.
34:27
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, because they got Jared Vers and that
34:29
Speaker 5: Byron Young. They got two young guys coming off the
34:32
Speaker 5: edge of Byron Young has like eleven sacks so far.
34:34
Speaker 4: I mean, he's leading it pretty good. I mean, when
34:37
Speaker 4: you're ahead of.
34:38
Speaker 3: The NBA Cup, but it's decent.
34:40
Speaker 5: Now it's not even close to that, but it's good still.
34:42
Speaker 5: I mean, it's just not spectacular. Maybe the greatest thing ever. Yeah,
34:46
Speaker 5: you're gonna need You're gonna need both your tackles to
34:49
Speaker 5: perform because they're gonna try to get in Donald's face.
34:52
Speaker 5: That was what basically one of the game was forcing
34:55
Speaker 5: him into making a couple of bad throws here and there.
34:58
Speaker 5: It's gonna be an interesting part of the whole thing.
35:00
Speaker 5: You're right, he's not done poorly. You look at his
35:02
Speaker 5: PFF numbers and it's limited, right, and so you don't
35:05
Speaker 5: take a lot into it because he's i mean, it's
35:08
Speaker 5: like fifty some snaps that he's played. But yeah, the
35:10
Speaker 5: passbocking numbers are good, the run bocking numbers not so much.
35:13
Speaker 5: So maybe it forces Clint Kubiak's hand to some degree
35:17
Speaker 5: into Clinton, if you know, now it's like, hey, we
35:20
Speaker 5: just can't run towards him. You know, maybe they're gonna
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Speaker 5: run to Abe Lucas his way, But then I think
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Speaker 5: Anthony Bradford's on that side.
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Speaker 4: So if that works.
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Speaker 1: I think you just throw to JSN fourteen times.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, all right, in a row, in a row.
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