Latest / Club 520 Podcast / Club 520 - Dwight Howard REGRETS leaving Magic, LeBron vs. Kobe, Derrick Rose MVP battle
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- 0:01Speaker 1: The volume.
- 0:05Speaker 2: All right, we're back another episode of Club five to
- 0:08Speaker 2: twenty podcast, brought to Boo smob live in Vegas with
- 0:11Speaker 2: a Big Three draft. It's only right, man. We got
- 0:13Speaker 2: some special guests in the building. We're gonna introduce them. Last,
- 0:16Speaker 2: to my far left, we got my dog, but should
- 0:18Speaker 2: be hearing out the privileges. How you wouldn't nasty? Let's
- 0:20Speaker 2: get to it, bro for sure, longer wayed episode. To
- 0:23Speaker 2: my far right, my dog, Young Natcho, Young Tig.
- 0:25Speaker 1: How you what chilling bro? Chilling? Chilling Bro. We did
- 0:30Speaker 1: the order story of Freaking Mike. Man.
- 0:31Speaker 2: We're gonna have to do the order story of Young
- 0:33Speaker 2: Natcho one day. Man, y'all gonna have to tap it
- 0:35Speaker 2: on the Patreon for that show.
- 0:37Speaker 1: Man. We got some special guests in the building.
- 0:38Speaker 2: Man, like we said out here for the Big Three,
- 0:40Speaker 2: the new Squiddy and like right, you know what I'm saying.
- 0:42Speaker 2: They hold down the set. Man, We got the game
- 0:44Speaker 2: in the building. You know, about to start a ride? Yeah,
- 0:47Speaker 2: start ride?
- 0:49Speaker 1: How this night? What's happening? Brothers? How y'all doing?
- 0:51Speaker 2: Man?
- 0:52Speaker 1: Good man?
- 0:53Speaker 2: Thanks for having us all man, come on man, longer
- 0:56Speaker 2: wad episode. Man, appreciate y'all pulling up now. Listen, man,
- 0:58Speaker 2: you got a lot of competence going on and Big
- 1:00Speaker 2: three man, what's up? Big three man? I'm I'm really
- 1:03Speaker 2: excited about playing in the Big three.
- 1:04Speaker 1: Man. I played, i'd have graduated from the.
- 1:07Speaker 2: Five on five league, and I got my uh my hat,
- 1:11Speaker 2: my jacket, yeah, my award.
- 1:13Speaker 1: So you know, I haven't played three or three basketball since.
- 1:17Speaker 2: You know, sometime we have it in practice or whatever,
- 1:19Speaker 2: we might do three or three, but this will be
- 1:21Speaker 2: my first time hoopy with the three three, so I'm
- 1:23Speaker 2: looking forward to it.
- 1:24Speaker 1: Man.
- 1:25Speaker 2: Like you said, congratulations as well, man, thank you well
- 1:27Speaker 2: deserved by the well deserved for shure three or three basketball. Listen, man,
- 1:31Speaker 2: you still got you know what I'm saying, you can
- 1:32Speaker 2: probably get missing the league, not even a Big three
- 1:33Speaker 2: with it.
- 1:34Speaker 1: Hey, man, we have high expectations. You got to kill
- 1:36Speaker 1: these niggas. You right, also get Yeah, you.
- 1:40Speaker 2: MVP already preseason mvping three of days, y'all.
- 1:46Speaker 1: I'm thirty nine.
- 1:48Speaker 2: We just went to the combine to White. No excuses, everybody.
- 1:51Speaker 2: Oh it's kind of hard to play though. Wow, you
- 1:56Speaker 2: get tired, You get tired fast as hell. Three or
- 1:58Speaker 2: three different court. Yeah, you get tired. I expected last year,
- 2:03Speaker 2: but they just gonna feed the post.
- 2:05Speaker 1: Bro, what's the biggest difference with three and three and
- 2:08Speaker 1: five or fall?
- 2:10Speaker 2: The biggest difference here is like it's like playing twenty
- 2:13Speaker 2: one when you was growing up. So if you get
- 2:14Speaker 2: the rebound, somebody's running to the three, and if you
- 2:16Speaker 2: tired and don't close out, everybody can shoot.
- 2:19Speaker 1: You don't get blown.
- 2:20Speaker 2: Last year we played in Portland, we got beat by
- 2:22Speaker 2: like forty. Yeah, it was about forty. I think we
- 2:27Speaker 2: had like six points to the first. We were so tired.
- 2:30Speaker 1: Jordan Crover, Yeah, yeah, that was that game.
- 2:32Speaker 2: I flew in the same day. It was like terrible,
- 2:34Speaker 2: like fights and stuff. But across the nation it was like, real, fuck.
- 2:37Speaker 1: Up, you can't beat them joining them. I gotta come
- 2:39Speaker 1: join the riot. And I seen JC yesterday, man, I
- 2:42Speaker 1: told him, put me on the team. Pull, what's up?
- 2:45Speaker 1: Put me on the team? You know you playing right,
- 2:48Speaker 1: playing but not the whole time.
- 2:50Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll play. I just gotta do some stuff with
- 2:52Speaker 2: high school basketball. We got jaim Ball, got to go
- 2:55Speaker 2: to some of the college campuses.
- 2:56Speaker 1: How was that coaching? Man, It's cool. I enjoyed it.
- 2:59Speaker 2: Probably the funnest part of the my life right now.
- 3:01Speaker 2: It'sides being married that's cool too, But conch basketball that's
- 3:05Speaker 2: cool too.
- 3:14Speaker 1: Got to throw that in there.
- 3:17Speaker 2: Speaking of high school basketball, obviously you know what I'm saying, Yes, Productory,
- 3:19Speaker 2: how you got to the NBA, How would you feel
- 3:21Speaker 2: about the n a L and high school? To be honest, man,
- 3:26Speaker 2: I don't really like the n A L thing. I
- 3:30Speaker 2: think the only reason I say I don't like it
- 3:32Speaker 2: is because once the money get involved in a lot
- 3:36Speaker 2: of things that kind of mess up the game, the passion,
- 3:39Speaker 2: the love. I know, on the NBA level, so much
- 3:43Speaker 2: money involved in it take away from how you might
- 3:46Speaker 2: feel because you know you you might not play because
- 3:49Speaker 2: the people up top making a decision. It ain't got
- 3:51Speaker 2: nothing to do with you or how good you are.
- 3:54Speaker 2: And you know, I just feel like now they bringing
- 3:56Speaker 2: it down to high school college stuff like that, where
- 4:00Speaker 2: people getting paid, and now it could devalue some of
- 4:03Speaker 2: these guys from once they try to get to the
- 4:05Speaker 2: to the professional side. So I mean I like it
- 4:09Speaker 2: to the point like, see, you ain't go to college,
- 4:11Speaker 2: so you don't know that feeling.
- 4:13Speaker 1: You ain't got no money, like you broken here trying
- 4:17Speaker 1: to make it.
- 4:18Speaker 2: He don't know about that getting that pil grant, But
- 4:21Speaker 2: like it's cool for that point, Like Maniga, take care
- 4:25Speaker 2: of yourself in school and have money in your pocket.
- 4:27Speaker 1: I think it's cool.
- 4:28Speaker 2: But I mean, like I couldn't imagine making four or
- 4:30Speaker 2: five million dollars in college. I would have been filthy.
- 4:32Speaker 2: I would have never made to the NBA. I would
- 4:34Speaker 2: double in my NBA.
- 4:36Speaker 1: The lowest amount of people into the draft this year, yeah, bet.
- 4:39Speaker 1: I mean if you we got some kids that uh Indiana.
- 4:42Speaker 2: Who could have went to the draft, but he went
- 4:44Speaker 2: to Louisville, ye got three days, three million dollars, shout.
- 4:48Speaker 1: That's a game change. So I could see on both
- 4:52Speaker 1: sides how it could be good.
- 4:54Speaker 2: And you know, like you said, well, well my side,
- 4:57Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I ain't never experienced going to colleg
- 5:00Speaker 2: so I do not understand that part.
- 5:01Speaker 1: So I guess the part that I'm.
- 5:04Speaker 2: Looking at it is from being in the league for
- 5:06Speaker 2: so long and seeing the corrupt I would say, the
- 5:08Speaker 2: corrupt side of.
- 5:10Speaker 1: Sports and stuff like that.
- 5:11Speaker 2: And I don't want these parents and these kids to
- 5:14Speaker 2: really get involved in that part.
- 5:16Speaker 1: But you can't, you can't keep it away from him.
- 5:19Speaker 2: So yeah, it's already corrupt, Like it's probably was people.
- 5:24Speaker 2: He was player in the country. It's probably people already,
- 5:28Speaker 2: but no, you on the side. You know, I was sixty.
- 5:34Speaker 2: People were trying to give me money on the side,
- 5:36Speaker 2: even to go to college, to give money and stuff.
- 5:38Speaker 1: So it was happening anyway. It's just cool that that's
- 5:40Speaker 1: in the open now because I mean, we got money
- 5:43Speaker 1: when I was in school.
- 5:43Speaker 3: So I think Josh. I think Josh Smith for the
- 5:47Speaker 3: rould have took that paper.
- 5:47Speaker 1: He would have been an eye. Josh, we got ten
- 5:50Speaker 1: for you ten million? Ye, they over going to the
- 5:53Speaker 1: league now. I think he's going to the league.
- 5:56Speaker 3: He going He wanted to Indiana for well fourteen am
- 6:01Speaker 3: smooth was going to bloom me. So remember what he said,
- 6:05Speaker 3: Remember what he said on the pot. He was like,
- 6:08Speaker 3: my daddy was like, man, that ain't no money in college.
- 6:11Speaker 3: So if they would have offered him some bread. I'm
- 6:13Speaker 3: just thinking that from that side, because you're young. He like,
- 6:16Speaker 3: ship if we're gonna get in real quick.
- 6:18Speaker 1: Fuck.
- 6:18Speaker 3: It was That's the only reason why I brought up
- 6:21Speaker 3: Josh because he said that on the po made that
- 6:23Speaker 3: was he probably.
- 6:24Speaker 1: Would have they offered him my two or three.
- 6:26Speaker 2: Probably yeahs is a lot for college? What crazy? Even
- 6:31Speaker 2: at the top period three is a lot? That is
- 6:36Speaker 2: father would have stayed there, how long Josh would have.
- 6:43Speaker 1: Stayed a year?
- 6:44Speaker 2: A year?
- 6:45Speaker 1: He couldn't stayed there. He couldn't have stayed more than
- 6:47Speaker 1: a year because he would have got to him.
- 6:49Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta get out of there, get in and
- 6:51Speaker 3: get out. Do that a little six months or slide.
- 6:55Speaker 2: I was college like people saying that if I would
- 6:58Speaker 2: to college, I probably would have want to stay all
- 7:00Speaker 2: four years?
- 7:04Speaker 1: Who told you that? Life to think about? People? Be ring? Bro?
- 7:10Speaker 2: He said, just be loving their school. But nobody want
- 7:12Speaker 2: to stay in college but that it is awful doing homework?
- 7:16Speaker 1: Bro. Hell no, now you.
- 7:18Speaker 2: Got to swear about was telling me, man, you would
- 7:20Speaker 2: have loved college. Man, I'm like, what, Man, I ain't.
- 7:22Speaker 1: Want to go to school when I was in high school?
- 7:24Speaker 1: You love? Campus? Would have been fun as far as
- 7:27Speaker 1: going to class. Why am I going to class where
- 7:29Speaker 1: I have a basket?
- 7:30Speaker 2: Bro? I love the NBA broact, Like what were talking about?
- 7:34Speaker 2: Everybody that say I love college? They must have been
- 7:37Speaker 2: in college. You the man on campus or whatever? But
- 7:41Speaker 2: ship you was the man the league experiences though to
- 7:44Speaker 2: though for people, Yeah, that's sad people.
- 7:46Speaker 1: No, I'm telling you saying they had fun and was
- 7:52Speaker 1: just gassing the UK. They couldn't do that.
- 7:57Speaker 2: They could even do nothing. Yeah that was before the game.
- 8:01Speaker 2: They couldn't even do nothing. I'm telling you the truth.
- 8:03Speaker 1: Bro. I always keep it real.
- 8:04Speaker 2: Bro. When you go to college, it's fun. Like for
- 8:07Speaker 2: a second, Bro, when you go to the NBA. Bro,
- 8:10Speaker 2: of course, that's I thinkings are the line they said,
- 8:14Speaker 2: I want to go back. No, I want to go
- 8:16Speaker 2: back to the NBA right now.
- 8:18Speaker 3: So was that automatic for you though? I know you
- 8:20Speaker 3: said you and see, but when did you make that
- 8:22Speaker 3: choice to make that league.
- 8:24Speaker 1: To go to the league? Man?
- 8:25Speaker 2: I was I was saying, tim Grade, Okay, for real,
- 8:35Speaker 2: I don't want to go to college. I feel like
- 8:37Speaker 2: that's gonna be a waste of time for me and
- 8:40Speaker 2: the school. I really just want to go to the
- 8:42Speaker 2: league and hoop. It was nothing else that I wanted
- 8:44Speaker 2: to do besides hoop.
- 8:45Speaker 1: So you know what's interesting. I want to ask you
- 8:47Speaker 1: about this.
- 8:47Speaker 2: Mellow was just talking about on the pod d Jared Smith,
- 8:50Speaker 2: you talking about he pulled up to the Down's game
- 8:52Speaker 2: and see how y'all was playing. He was just like
- 8:54Speaker 2: I looked around and said, oh, yeah, they can go
- 8:55Speaker 2: to the league right now. Well, that moment when you
- 8:57Speaker 2: get around those people that's in the league, that's just
- 8:59Speaker 2: like reaffirming that you already know that I was gonna
- 9:03Speaker 2: be that I could go. Man, every tournament, every tournament
- 9:07Speaker 2: we played in, uh, the McDonald's game, that's when I
- 9:10Speaker 2: kind of like, I was like, this is it, man,
- 9:13Speaker 2: I'm the m v P men j R. I knew
- 9:17Speaker 2: I had a shot. I knew I had a shot
- 9:19Speaker 2: then to be the number one pick. But I was
- 9:21Speaker 2: just so headstrong and making sure I went number one
- 9:24Speaker 2: that you know that was my only only mission.
- 9:28Speaker 1: The first pick played on the hell of a AU
- 9:30Speaker 1: team too. This is ship right here. Third first Bro, No,
- 9:38Speaker 1: it's Indiana White.
- 9:40Speaker 3: I tell these niggas all the time. You nigga don't
- 9:43Speaker 3: understand how good Randolph was either the coldest front court
- 9:48Speaker 3: Bro of all time, Bro swore to God in high
- 9:51Speaker 3: school basketball and any era.
- 9:53Speaker 1: Bro Randolph and Josh Josh and then we have Javars
- 10:00Speaker 1: to day, Mike Mike the Rush one game we did
- 10:06Speaker 1: the tournament, Yeah, we had a squad.
- 10:12Speaker 2: Niggas from Missouri and all started used to come out
- 10:15Speaker 2: here in Vegas and playing all the tournament, the big
- 10:17Speaker 2: time tournament out here in Vegas. My youngest membage is
- 10:21Speaker 2: coming out here with Atlanta Celtics. And back then they
- 10:24Speaker 2: used to have a little Atlanta Celtics.
- 10:27Speaker 1: Now coming out here, they used to have these little
- 10:29Speaker 1: cards like the escorts. You're talking about that.
- 10:38Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember our coached, not our coach, but Wallace
- 10:43Speaker 2: prayed the guy wrist is so started the whole Celtics.
- 10:45Speaker 2: He said, if any of y'all mestle any of these escorts,
- 10:49Speaker 2: y'all would never play Celtics basketball again.
- 10:52Speaker 1: I said, Man, I ain't gonna try this.
- 10:54Speaker 2: I want to go to the league here if I
- 10:56Speaker 2: was a friend, because they was passing out the cars everywhere.
- 10:59Speaker 2: But man, we used to come here every summer, man,
- 11:02Speaker 2: and that's what we really got our name, playing out
- 11:04Speaker 2: in the big time tournament.
- 11:06Speaker 1: Playing rememberable matchups from back then. Uh damn, that was
- 11:12Speaker 1: a long time ago, you said. He said he beat
- 11:14Speaker 1: our team. That was our high school team.
- 11:17Speaker 2: No, nobody was, well, the team that beat us was
- 11:19Speaker 2: pumping run from l a Jordan farmark. What's the big
- 11:28Speaker 2: he was a center. Some dude that Mada Lonzo Madas.
- 11:32Speaker 1: He was just he was a blue guy. Yeah, but
- 11:38Speaker 1: he was man. But they used to always beat us. Man.
- 11:41Speaker 1: That was that was the only team that beat us
- 11:43Speaker 1: is the team out of l A.
- 11:46Speaker 2: Jordan Farmar at the crib about the Indie Heat team
- 11:50Speaker 2: versuall an Indie Heat team.
- 11:52Speaker 3: It was who was on that team and Roberts Day,
- 11:57Speaker 3: Kwan Cook, Mike, Eric Gore, and Mike Conley.
- 12:01Speaker 1: That was pretty cool.
- 12:02Speaker 2: That's a five squad. That's why that was pretty nast Yeah,
- 12:09Speaker 2: Josh Bounce Grey older, Yeah.
- 12:16Speaker 1: Mike still playing Mike. Oh, Michael just hit three the
- 12:20Speaker 1: other night. I couldn't believe the ship we still playing. Man.
- 12:24Speaker 1: That's so what I think.
- 12:26Speaker 2: Nobody talked about Indiana hoops like that. They should be
- 12:30Speaker 2: talked about more. Most definitely mean we got some hoopers.
- 12:33Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, we got a lot. We got a lot.
- 12:36Speaker 2: Bro, we just don't have a lot of superstars some
- 12:39Speaker 2: of the biggest season as far as consistent players and
- 12:41Speaker 2: stuff like that.
- 12:41Speaker 1: Yeah, we keep so State got the best hoopers which state.
- 12:46Speaker 2: Bro, we got all the guys Jersey Jersey Jersey Jersey
- 12:52Speaker 2: Jerseys California.
- 12:53Speaker 1: That's where you're from from Jersey.
- 12:54Speaker 2: Yeah, Kyrie, Yeah, j Smith, Yeah, y'all cooked after that.
- 13:01Speaker 2: Jaylen Bronson j B forre call Town.
- 13:05Speaker 1: Okay, my mam Chicago though he play Chicago from Chicago.
- 13:14Speaker 1: J Jaylen Broston Chicago and high school. That's a fire.
- 13:22Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, nice, that's New Jersey. Nice go to l
- 13:25Speaker 1: A crazy Well. I had to take l A out
- 13:31Speaker 1: of it, put it in regions. It was just like
- 13:34Speaker 1: when you got just damn the Compton alone, you got
- 13:43Speaker 1: from compted that, James Damar. That's enough.
- 13:51Speaker 3: You can start right there. I give it to some
- 13:53Speaker 3: real ship though. State wise, I'll give it to New
- 13:55Speaker 3: York pure basketball.
- 13:57Speaker 4: New York, New York hey By he said, you can't
- 14:00Speaker 4: put New York over Jersey.
- 14:01Speaker 3: Look at the line of pure basketball, bro, I'm just
- 14:04Speaker 3: talking about outside the NBA players, just overall basketball coaching culture.
- 14:11Speaker 1: Who culture really got that many hoopers though from there?
- 14:14Speaker 1: From a lot, not a lot. I'm telling you, Stephan,
- 14:20Speaker 1: it's like Kimber, what's that guy the party right for?
- 14:24Speaker 1: From New York? Like Mark Jacksons, my love, Kenny Anderson
- 14:28Speaker 1: ship like that. It was Ali York.
- 14:34Speaker 2: There's not a lot of I think what he's saying
- 14:37Speaker 2: is is not a lot of super superstars from New
- 14:40Speaker 2: York City.
- 14:41Speaker 1: It's a streetball and street ball. It's a street ball
- 14:44Speaker 1: on count.
- 14:45Speaker 2: D n V.
- 14:46Speaker 4: I know the markets, And Quinn said d n V
- 14:49Speaker 4: PG County and stuff.
- 14:50Speaker 1: That's k D mellow b B. That's enough, that's right.
- 14:58Speaker 3: That was crazy. Well I'm still taking that though. I'm
- 15:01Speaker 3: still taking I'm taking Indiana.
- 15:02Speaker 1: Bro.
- 15:03Speaker 2: Growing up for us, Indiana was like they used to
- 15:05Speaker 2: always tell us, Indiana is where the Hoopers come from.
- 15:08Speaker 1: I guess because what's the coach name? Who choked the
- 15:12Speaker 1: Bob Knight?
- 15:13Speaker 2: Yeah? I remember in high school they wanted us to
- 15:15Speaker 2: meet Bob Knight. So that was the time I traveled
- 15:18Speaker 2: up to Indiana.
- 15:19Speaker 1: So who came out of Indiana? Who came out of Indiana?
- 15:23Speaker 1: Like he said, he didn't. That's my doll from Yeah,
- 15:31Speaker 1: crazy you too? The first five living Powerful when he
- 15:40Speaker 1: was in high school he played Power forward and he's
- 15:42Speaker 1: only five eleven. Yeah, bro, we know about a J
- 15:45Speaker 1: boy and number.
- 15:46Speaker 2: Two he had bounce for real about a J boyer.
- 15:51Speaker 2: He was cold Indiana, especially high school. I was we
- 15:55Speaker 2: keep him like every year, were gon keep them the
- 15:56Speaker 2: dollars Americans, how was that year though?
- 16:00Speaker 1: Bro getting drafted?
- 16:01Speaker 2: Like?
- 16:01Speaker 1: How was that shit? Listen?
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- 18:05Speaker 2: It was a world where being drafted at eighteen, coming
- 18:10Speaker 2: into a league where you asked to be the franchise player.
- 18:14Speaker 2: I went to the smaller school in Georgia when they
- 18:17Speaker 2: had sixteen people in my class. So now going from
- 18:21Speaker 2: going from small school like that to the league was
- 18:23Speaker 2: like a shell shock for me. I was I ain't
- 18:26Speaker 2: know nothing about nothing, coming into the league.
- 18:29Speaker 4: Who yeah, okay, that ship's smallest.
- 18:35Speaker 2: Yeah, I said that shit like a damn in my
- 18:38Speaker 2: houses in the league about big as my school? Wow,
- 18:43Speaker 2: bro okay because small at a small school man like
- 18:48Speaker 2: we really it was.
- 18:50Speaker 1: It was ten girls in our class, six boys. We
- 18:54Speaker 1: had three hundreds? What made you go there? Yeah?
- 18:56Speaker 3: I know we're back then. Damn we got to tap
- 18:58Speaker 3: into that was my It was a church school. So
- 19:02Speaker 3: my church we started school and I just stayed at
- 19:06Speaker 3: my whole life. Yeah, I ain't nowhere else eighteen. At eighteen,
- 19:10Speaker 3: I went to the same school. I ain't know nothing
- 19:13Speaker 3: besides the school. Then I got to the league. I
- 19:15Speaker 3: ain't know nothing but the league. I was really the
- 19:17Speaker 3: bubble boy like in the movie. I didn't know that
- 19:23Speaker 3: fire of eighteen.
- 19:24Speaker 1: That's going to a church school. I was. I know.
- 19:28Speaker 1: My first year in the league, I would have been
- 19:30Speaker 1: filled parents kids, I was there was locked up rookie
- 19:41Speaker 1: the league kids, I'm rich.
- 19:43Speaker 2: I got this, you think because Pike we got like
- 19:50Speaker 2: four thousand students. Yeah, was like a mini college. Still,
- 19:56Speaker 2: pip was sixty percent black. I don't even know what
- 19:58Speaker 2: it's like to go to school with that many people,
- 20:01Speaker 2: Like I ain't never seen that many people until I
- 20:03Speaker 2: started going to basketball games in the league, seeing thousands
- 20:06Speaker 2: and thousands of people. So what I mean, obviously the
- 20:11Speaker 2: hype was there, No how good you was? Was our
- 20:13Speaker 2: games crazy?
- 20:14Speaker 1: Like? Was people pulling up to the game games? It's crazy.
- 20:16Speaker 2: We couldn't play at our at our gym and possible.
- 20:21Speaker 2: I think we played one game there was the first game,
- 20:23Speaker 2: but it was so packed that it was it was
- 20:26Speaker 2: about to shut the You what they called the fire,
- 20:28Speaker 2: the fire Marshall might come. So we had to play
- 20:31Speaker 2: at one of the colleges that was That was the
- 20:34Speaker 2: time man playing in high school and games is packed.
- 20:39Speaker 1: And what was your rink? We was number three in
- 20:42Speaker 1: the nation.
- 20:43Speaker 2: Did y'all play Louis No, No, he was a little
- 20:48Speaker 2: bit after me. It was the year after me, but
- 20:50Speaker 2: he was he was like five A, five A six A.
- 20:53Speaker 2: So they playing all the big.
- 20:55Speaker 1: Schools because they school big Ship. Yeah, yeah, that's a
- 21:00Speaker 1: big school for sure. Yeah, our school is small and
- 21:03Speaker 1: it's now because like he's the coach.
- 21:05Speaker 2: Of and monor now and like we was lit Pike
- 21:07Speaker 2: was a really really good prominent basketball school and like
- 21:10Speaker 2: people didn't even care, like people came to games to
- 21:12Speaker 2: support it, but like people.
- 21:13Speaker 1: That get you know, the niggas good. Yeah, damn.
- 21:16Speaker 2: There was number two in the nation after Lebron. Yeah
- 21:20Speaker 2: Lebron said, yeah, yeah, that was all three. Yeah, So
- 21:24Speaker 2: like it was a support was always there, but to
- 21:25Speaker 2: like to hear that perspective to have no one player
- 21:27Speaker 2: in the small school like that and then for y'all
- 21:28Speaker 2: to be as good as y'all words like putting out
- 21:30Speaker 2: pros every three years and everybody like people support them
- 21:32Speaker 2: it's like, all right, coolbody.
- 21:34Speaker 1: Yeah, how it was. It wasn't even a big deal
- 21:37Speaker 1: and we play. He was lit. I could imagine, though,
- 21:40Speaker 1: that's crazy.
- 21:40Speaker 3: You got the personality, bro, you went to the school
- 21:43Speaker 3: from eighteen that was on site school. Yeah, bro, because
- 21:46Speaker 3: that with your personally, you would think that you went
- 21:48Speaker 3: to a school like us. You feel me like you
- 21:51Speaker 3: real social.
- 21:51Speaker 2: Yeah, I would imagine it was like a class clamber
- 21:53Speaker 2: with five people in your class.
- 21:56Speaker 1: Yeah. I was a school cloud. Oh god, I was
- 22:04Speaker 1: I having to get next year in the year after
- 22:08Speaker 1: I go see you. That's what I'm saying that you
- 22:10Speaker 1: don't have. You couldn't even switch class. It's like, you're right.
- 22:16Speaker 1: We was in the same class all day and the
- 22:19Speaker 1: teacher would come to all the class. We just had
- 22:21Speaker 1: one teacher. You have like a role at the school,
- 22:24Speaker 1: like I was the the school president. Like we had
- 22:29Speaker 1: like a little you know, a little little grown already.
- 22:46Speaker 1: That's crazy. That's funny as hell. I want to ask
- 22:49Speaker 1: you this question.
- 22:50Speaker 2: You talked about this recently regarded like the situation you
- 22:53Speaker 2: said the grass might always be greener. I love have
- 22:56Speaker 2: had that conversation with you here because I know you
- 22:57Speaker 2: talk about that on teammate. You know the lands for
- 23:00Speaker 2: the NBA, you know, peop moving around and stuff. But
- 23:02Speaker 2: some of these stars is like, might as well just
- 23:04Speaker 2: be where you're at and just make it your own.
- 23:07Speaker 1: Yeah. Man.
- 23:10Speaker 2: One of the craziest things I think I did was
- 23:13Speaker 2: just leaving Orlando, not knowing what I had until it
- 23:18Speaker 2: was really gone, and not seeing like when you go
- 23:20Speaker 2: somewhere else really and somebody else shit, you think you
- 23:24Speaker 2: can come over there and take it, but nah, it
- 23:27Speaker 2: ain't like that. So, you know, being in Orlando, I
- 23:32Speaker 2: ain't realize I'm the youngest hell man twenty two in
- 23:36Speaker 2: the finals, you know what I'm saying, twenty two, one
- 23:38Speaker 2: of the best players already, MVP and all that stuff talk,
- 23:42Speaker 2: and I ain't know what I was doing down there,
- 23:44Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So I just tell you,
- 23:46Speaker 2: honest man, you are Milwaukee.
- 23:49Speaker 1: That's where you're going.
- 23:50Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It ain't gonna it ain't
- 23:52Speaker 2: nothing else gonna hit right after that, you know what
- 23:54Speaker 2: I'm saying. So I just think his best bett is
- 23:57Speaker 2: just stay put. I mean, they add pieces around him, you.
- 24:03Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.
- 24:03Speaker 2: So it ain't the other way around. Like, he don't
- 24:06Speaker 2: need to go nowhere else and try to figure it out.
- 24:08Speaker 2: They gonna bring whatever, and.
- 24:10Speaker 1: He already won, he already won. What else do you
- 24:12Speaker 1: gotta do? You're gonna get this.
- 24:15Speaker 2: He gonna get a statue, The Nazis will get a
- 24:18Speaker 2: statue right now. Then for real, he needs to stay
- 24:24Speaker 2: man Like, I understand one to leave and playing with
- 24:27Speaker 2: these guys and chasing the ring, but for real, like
- 24:30Speaker 2: that's the one thing I don't I don't like and
- 24:33Speaker 2: I wish I didn't do.
- 24:34Speaker 1: It was chase after a ring. You know what I'm saying,
- 24:38Speaker 1: going to teams trying to, you know, figure it out.
- 24:41Speaker 2: So I would say, you got to stay home now
- 24:44Speaker 2: because when you was in Orlando, I tell everybody he
- 24:46Speaker 2: was the most dominant player, and it was like he
- 24:49Speaker 2: was joking with people.
- 24:50Speaker 1: We had four we have four or five Big five.
- 24:53Speaker 1: We had Josh Powell, Jason Jason Collins bro one of
- 25:00Speaker 1: the grants.
- 25:01Speaker 2: With yeah, yeah, we had a bunch of people. We
- 25:03Speaker 2: had our horbit ta yeah, opportunity. Yeah, we had a
- 25:07Speaker 2: whole squad to stop you. In my rookie year, y'all
- 25:11Speaker 2: beat us about like forty year game. But our second
- 25:13Speaker 2: year y'all did in the playoffs, people about like forty
- 25:17Speaker 2: were Gilbert the right now that we beat y'all with
- 25:19Speaker 2: gil Yeah, but your first year, I think y'all had
- 25:22Speaker 2: he do Oh yeah, we had like the biggest margin
- 25:25Speaker 2: of victory, and like NBA history against you, y'all, like Wood,
- 25:29Speaker 2: he was a coach.
- 25:29Speaker 1: We was getting ours beat.
- 25:31Speaker 2: Then the next year we played John, we were gonna
- 25:33Speaker 2: let the White score fifty in the first game. You
- 25:35Speaker 2: had like thirty six in the first quarter, like in
- 25:37Speaker 2: the first half, and I'm like, hey, man might really
- 25:40Speaker 2: score fifty.
- 25:41Speaker 1: Y'all.
- 25:41Speaker 2: They like, it's cool, It's cool. We got we gotta
- 25:43Speaker 2: eliminate the threes. But I was just telling people how
- 25:45Speaker 2: dominant you are, Like it was crazy. You couldn't get
- 25:48Speaker 2: a layup. Like I used to shoot floaters at the
- 25:50Speaker 2: top of the rack board and he would be just laughing, like.
- 25:55Speaker 1: Don't come back here, don't let him go, let him go.
- 25:57Speaker 1: They let him go. I'm like, man, what the fuck?
- 26:00Speaker 1: And them just let you go to the basket. He'll
- 26:02Speaker 1: block it. Fun.
- 26:05Speaker 2: It was fun as hell, man like, And I think
- 26:07Speaker 2: people took me laughing and joking. That's not taking the
- 26:10Speaker 2: game serious. But I practiced so hard. I worked so
- 26:14Speaker 2: hard out you know, outside of the games before the
- 26:17Speaker 2: game started, that by the time we got playing, I'm like, man,
- 26:19Speaker 2: this is fun going out there, dominating, dunking, blocking shots,
- 26:24Speaker 2: doing all that I'm doing. This is fun because I
- 26:25Speaker 2: don't put in all the hard work. So now it's
- 26:28Speaker 2: really a show. That's That's how I'm taking it. Like, man,
- 26:31Speaker 2: I'm Finn to put on the show. We got all
- 26:33Speaker 2: these fans, they ain't never seen me play live. I'm
- 26:36Speaker 2: finna go crazy. I'm Finn blocking shots, smile talks some
- 26:39Speaker 2: trash to the you know, and I didn't mean no
- 26:42Speaker 2: harm by it.
- 26:43Speaker 1: It's just I just had so much passionate about playing.
- 26:47Speaker 1: He was dumbant, bro, I'm always getting your flowers on that.
- 26:49Speaker 1: That shit was crazy.
- 26:50Speaker 2: Thank Gilbert had brought it up on the pod when
- 26:53Speaker 2: they played Atlanta. It's thats like crazy, like forty forty
- 26:58Speaker 2: play against Atlanta. Yeah whatever, Yeah, it's like he had
- 27:02Speaker 2: something against us. That's what I did, being from Atlanta,
- 27:04Speaker 2: but I did one. I was man because I wanted
- 27:09Speaker 2: to play in Atlanta, you know what I'm saying. So
- 27:11Speaker 2: I was like, man, they ain't even I'm from Atlanta.
- 27:14Speaker 2: They could have drafted me. But then it was just
- 27:17Speaker 2: like I wanted to beat the Hawks because every game
- 27:20Speaker 2: I saw somebody that I knew from growing up talking
- 27:23Speaker 2: trash and they cheering.
- 27:24Speaker 1: For the Hawks.
- 27:25Speaker 2: I was like, man, I got it, and the Hawks
- 27:27Speaker 2: I had like five bigs too. I wanted to destroy
- 27:30Speaker 2: every single big like that was my whole mission. So
- 27:36Speaker 2: that was your whole game player, to let me score. Yeah,
- 27:38Speaker 2: that second time we play, we beat you out my
- 27:40Speaker 2: second year. The first year, y'all blew us up. But
- 27:42Speaker 2: my second year they was like, let Dwight kill and
- 27:44Speaker 2: you was killing shit. But nobody else was really scoring
- 27:48Speaker 2: like that because we were just staying at home and
- 27:49Speaker 2: he was just playing one the one that was killing well.
- 27:52Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 27:52Speaker 2: We figured it out a smart ass game player, That's
- 27:57Speaker 2: what it was for real, because I'm like, man, I
- 28:00Speaker 2: keep cooking.
- 28:00Speaker 1: But then my teammates. Wasn't it as involved as Yeah,
- 28:07Speaker 1: that wasn't good.
- 28:08Speaker 4: When you played with Atlanta, you wasn't on that team.
- 28:10Speaker 1: No, I left the year he camp. Yeah, that would
- 28:13Speaker 1: have been five. Yeah. What well did you hit the
- 28:17Speaker 1: weight room when you got to the league. What kind
- 28:19Speaker 1: of idea was you I did. I was skinny.
- 28:22Speaker 2: I tried to lift weights before I got to the league.
- 28:25Speaker 2: My regiment before I got to the league was I
- 28:28Speaker 2: was waking up this every day in high school. It's
- 28:30Speaker 2: waking up four you going to the track, then the
- 28:34Speaker 2: weight room in the gym. But I couldn't gain no weight.
- 28:38Speaker 2: None of that stuff happened. Then when I got to
- 28:40Speaker 2: the league, I started doing Olympic lifting with our trainer
- 28:43Speaker 2: in Orlando, and I would say after the first the
- 28:49Speaker 2: first years would hit me. I started playing against the
- 28:52Speaker 2: guys that was big and strong, and I was like, man,
- 28:54Speaker 2: I'm not gonna get pushed around no more. So I
- 28:56Speaker 2: just started lifting and eating weights. I got too big,
- 29:02Speaker 2: I got too.
- 29:04Speaker 1: Yeah, I start. I went and got a weight room
- 29:06Speaker 1: at my house.
- 29:07Speaker 2: Every day, I'm doing the bench press, my bench right,
- 29:11Speaker 2: and I got to get close to five hundred.
- 29:13Speaker 1: And trunk my right. You bet your fire. I'm trying
- 29:17Speaker 1: to get the fire.
- 29:18Speaker 2: Yeah, like man, shoulder, yeah, show the bench press, were
- 29:25Speaker 2: trying to was doing thousand push ups every day.
- 29:28Speaker 1: No wonder then, because I'm like white with that ship
- 29:31Speaker 1: strong ship.
- 29:33Speaker 2: It was like twenty and so in the high school
- 29:35Speaker 2: and high school, I was one eighty five, and I
- 29:38Speaker 2: got up to to twenty to twenty four, and then
- 29:41Speaker 2: when I got to the league, they got me all
- 29:43Speaker 2: the way up to sixty five to seven.
- 29:46Speaker 1: That's crazy. That's crazy.
- 29:47Speaker 2: That's big, and that's crazy because like they always compare
- 29:51Speaker 2: like you and your situations, like when I first came
- 29:52Speaker 2: into your league, and then like I can see that, Yeah, y'all,
- 29:55Speaker 2: y'all became fucking I could see that.
- 29:57Speaker 1: I could see that. I think that he was he
- 30:02Speaker 1: is a like.
- 30:04Speaker 2: Dwight Howard with that could play with handles and you know,
- 30:08Speaker 2: being able to go full court and all that stuff.
- 30:11Speaker 2: In my era, they weren't allowing the bigs to do that,
- 30:14Speaker 2: and he had just came in at the right time
- 30:16Speaker 2: where he could play one on one as a five
- 30:20Speaker 2: full court bring the ball down. I remember playing in Orlando,
- 30:23Speaker 2: the coaches telling every time I dribbled the ball, it
- 30:26Speaker 2: tell them to come take it, don't dribble. So that's
- 30:30Speaker 2: the only only thing I could do was the jump
- 30:33Speaker 2: hooks and duct the ball. That's crazy, that little team.
- 30:37Speaker 2: We always give y'all credit in y'all Flowers because y'all
- 30:40Speaker 2: were early. Y'all sent the trend like that. Especially in
- 30:43Speaker 2: this era, y'all would have dominated with the threes to
- 30:47Speaker 2: keep the floor space with the threes. Come on, man,
- 30:49Speaker 2: he parked as the fact up point guard of sixty
- 30:51Speaker 2: nine Ryan Anderson, Ryan Anderson shooting three crazy crazy. Nobody
- 30:57Speaker 2: talk about how Jamire played man. Jamier was called star.
- 31:01Speaker 1: It was cold man.
- 31:04Speaker 2: His the way he shot the ball. It was underrated.
- 31:08Speaker 2: I don't think people really talked about him. I think
- 31:11Speaker 2: after he heard his shoulder that year, but then having
- 31:15Speaker 2: the two O G point guards skipped.
- 31:18Speaker 1: To my lot and Anthony Johnson a j yeah he
- 31:22Speaker 1: saw him. No Nick, that's crazy, Anthony, No Nick, Justson.
- 31:28Speaker 1: That was my doll. He was one of my favorite
- 31:30Speaker 1: point guards.
- 31:31Speaker 2: And every time in the game when he got in trouble,
- 31:33Speaker 2: you would just be like Dwight and throw the ball
- 31:35Speaker 2: up for a lot.
- 31:36Speaker 1: I'd be like, just anytime you get in trouble, just
- 31:39Speaker 1: throw that bitch up to the rim. I go get
- 31:41Speaker 1: it team.
- 31:43Speaker 2: Like you said, Jimmy Nelson was doing the sting for show,
- 31:46Speaker 2: skip to my little hooping like he just hoop like
- 31:48Speaker 2: it was and one like.
- 31:50Speaker 1: I was that playing with him, bro, man, that was
- 31:52Speaker 1: so much fun.
- 31:53Speaker 2: He was one of my all time favorites because I
- 31:56Speaker 2: used to watch I grew up watching A one. Yeah,
- 31:58Speaker 2: so like seeing him on and one and then actually
- 32:01Speaker 2: being on his team, I'm like, Yo, this is it, Yo,
- 32:04Speaker 2: Like this is really skipped to about loop facts. He
- 32:08Speaker 2: was one of the coldest man, but Hito was one
- 32:10Speaker 2: of my craziest teammates.
- 32:12Speaker 1: It's cold and coldest.
- 32:14Speaker 2: Six 'ten can shoot anywhere on the floor, post up,
- 32:17Speaker 2: you got handles. I think the NBA back then was
- 32:21Speaker 2: such a like I can't I don't want to hate
- 32:24Speaker 2: on the guys now that's playing, but I feel like
- 32:26Speaker 2: we was our era, Like.
- 32:29Speaker 1: That era was really nice. It was good. It was
- 32:31Speaker 1: a good time.
- 32:32Speaker 2: I man, I think it was a lot of cold
- 32:34Speaker 2: people and we I think like the best players to
- 32:37Speaker 2: who was in that era, like all of y'all like
- 32:39Speaker 2: Hall of famers. Just think about the names of the era,
- 32:43Speaker 2: talking about the dirt and Whiskeys, the Kgs, the Tim Dunkins.
- 32:48Speaker 1: You got Stid of Mine, you got Lebron, you got
- 32:51Speaker 1: all this. The era that we had like that was like.
- 32:57Speaker 2: It's probably one of the coldest eras of basket in
- 33:00Speaker 2: the basketball back then was so hard because now the
- 33:04Speaker 2: floor spaced out, so you're getting all these points.
- 33:07Speaker 1: But back then, everybody boxes and elbows. It's hard to score.
- 33:10Speaker 1: It's hard to get.
- 33:11Speaker 2: Twenty points a game in that league. But then ten people,
- 33:14Speaker 2: it's only ten people scoring twenty points. So you see
- 33:17Speaker 2: how cold the league was back then. You talk about
- 33:20Speaker 2: the space, there wasn't no space. And they had traditional
- 33:22Speaker 2: power forwards and traditional files, yes, and they wasn't three.
- 33:26Speaker 1: None until they got them when they start putting Charlot Lewis.
- 33:31Speaker 1: Lewis was one of the first ones.
- 33:33Speaker 2: I think it was with shar Rashie Lewis too, because
- 33:35Speaker 2: we kind of got that from the Pistons to Detroit
- 33:39Speaker 2: beat us two years in a row in the playoffs.
- 33:41Speaker 2: When I first got into the league. Rashie Wallace, Rachee Wallace,
- 33:46Speaker 2: That's what I say, Yeah, I said about but no
- 33:58Speaker 2: Rashie Wallace. I would say, have Rashid Wallace and Ben
- 34:02Speaker 2: Wallace and then the guys they had on their team.
- 34:05Speaker 2: They kind of gave us the blueprint of what we
- 34:08Speaker 2: needed to do to be successful, Like I need to
- 34:12Speaker 2: change my mentality to be a beast in the paint.
- 34:16Speaker 2: So watching and playing against guys like Ben Wallace, Jason Maxil,
- 34:21Speaker 2: Rashid Wallace, Antonio.
- 34:25Speaker 1: This is all on the Pistons team.
- 34:27Speaker 2: So that team right there, the league can blame them
- 34:30Speaker 2: for me wanting to get in the weight room and
- 34:32Speaker 2: wanting to like go after people because for two years
- 34:35Speaker 2: straight they bullied us. Man, they bullied us, and we
- 34:39Speaker 2: couldn't beat them in the playoffs all regular season.
- 34:42Speaker 1: Damn n. That was crazy.
- 34:45Speaker 2: Jason Maxill and Ben Wile ask crazy.
- 34:47Speaker 1: From people forgetting about Rashid Wallace. Yo, the Nuggets was
- 34:56Speaker 1: getting buckets. He was cold. He was cold. Jason said,
- 35:00Speaker 1: what was he like? Six six Jason six three with
- 35:04Speaker 1: with eight ft three? Yeah, long as he long? Gus
- 35:08Speaker 1: looking like a digit turtles for the enders.
- 35:13Speaker 2: You don't know you're talking about. It was my name
- 35:16Speaker 2: Isaiah up at Detroit.
- 35:17Speaker 1: Nah back, y'all see that video and chasing the dude
- 35:24Speaker 1: was trying to kill. He would have killed that man.
- 35:28Speaker 2: What's basketball get different from show man?
- 35:32Speaker 1: Yo? Oh god man? It was sometimes over.
- 35:36Speaker 2: I want to scrap why you cannot find the cancer
- 35:41Speaker 2: doing over?
- 35:42Speaker 1: Then me would the guy that you threw the story about,
- 35:48Speaker 1: he just talking ship like yeah, yeah, talk on find.
- 35:59Speaker 2: But in China we getting on Taiwan. We got into
- 36:01Speaker 2: a my team got into a fight. I got kicked
- 36:04Speaker 2: out the game. I didn't even fight, that's on the bench.
- 36:07Speaker 2: That was the one time I actually did do nothing
- 36:10Speaker 2: to deserve a teck mm hmm.
- 36:13Speaker 1: So it was pretty intense.
- 36:14Speaker 4: You gotta get you overseas, man, Yeah, probably.
- 36:20Speaker 1: Ten days about say T A T. Yeah.
- 36:25Speaker 2: I started the league over in in Asia a couple
- 36:29Speaker 2: of years ago after my first year in Taiwan.
- 36:33Speaker 1: And the reason being is.
- 36:36Speaker 2: A lot of guys who've played in the NBA tried
- 36:40Speaker 2: to make it to the NBA. Once they don't make
- 36:42Speaker 2: it or somebody that they usually tend to just be
- 36:44Speaker 2: like fuck it, you know what I'm saying, go down
- 36:46Speaker 2: the rabbit hole of why they ain't played or whatever.
- 36:49Speaker 2: And you know, I really wanted to give a lot
- 36:51Speaker 2: of guys opportunities to hoop across the water. The international game,
- 36:56Speaker 2: the international love, international money, it's all out there, and
- 37:01Speaker 2: I feel like, sometimes, you know, we just put ourselves
- 37:03Speaker 2: in the box.
- 37:03Speaker 1: If we don't make it here, then that's the end.
- 37:05Speaker 1: All be off. Uh So we started to lead three
- 37:09Speaker 1: years ago and it's been booming. Man.
- 37:12Speaker 2: We got book Quinn Cook came and played. Uh, we
- 37:18Speaker 2: got a guy seven ft seven that was playing in
- 37:21Speaker 2: the league for a couple of years now, but we
- 37:24Speaker 2: got about eight nine teams the league is where are.
- 37:27Speaker 1: Your boy at from Boston? That was on the pod,
- 37:32Speaker 1: Big t.
- 37:34Speaker 2: Taco he was about to come. As he was about
- 37:37Speaker 2: to come and play over there, he went to uh,
- 37:40Speaker 2: Mainland China play but shout Taco, Shout out the Taco man.
- 37:46Speaker 2: I remember watching man U c f he U see
- 37:48Speaker 2: up stand and you can't finish. He's at the right
- 37:51Speaker 2: student could not paint you seven.
- 37:59Speaker 1: Sposed to be.
- 38:02Speaker 2: I love Taco man for real, just to see his
- 38:04Speaker 2: real progress. Like he came into the league, he was
- 38:08Speaker 2: not that the skilled as he is now. He got
- 38:11Speaker 2: so much better and he does I know he's seven
- 38:13Speaker 2: foot five six, but he dunking those niggas like he
- 38:17Speaker 2: ain't playing around. So shut out the Taco man. It's
- 38:20Speaker 2: always funny like you see like NBA players outside of
- 38:22Speaker 2: the NBA, because we always talked about like the Mitchell
- 38:25Speaker 2: Robinson highlights on him, nothing free throws, but he pulling
- 38:27Speaker 2: up a transition threes in the summer. Taco Funk got
- 38:30Speaker 2: a crazy summer mixed up out there putting pats on
- 38:32Speaker 2: niggas and ship that said.
- 38:33Speaker 1: Damn, I gotta check this out. It's different. I think
- 38:38Speaker 1: it's different in the league.
- 38:40Speaker 2: Sometimes you get they give you a role or like, man,
- 38:44Speaker 2: you're playing against really the best of the best. Like,
- 38:47Speaker 2: so defense gonna be on point, guys is gonna be
- 38:50Speaker 2: really ready to lock you down.
- 38:51Speaker 1: Whatever it may be.
- 38:52Speaker 2: When you go up seas or something like that, you
- 38:54Speaker 2: get the green light, you trying anything, You're gonna look
- 38:57Speaker 2: like Mitchell Robinson, he got the green light.
- 39:00Speaker 1: We out there playing in the park or whatever. Is that?
- 39:01Speaker 1: So shoot, I do the same thing.
- 39:04Speaker 3: Sure, at what point of your career did you like
- 39:07Speaker 3: figure out that you was the one in the NBA,
- 39:09Speaker 3: Like when did you feel like, all right, I can
- 39:11Speaker 3: start taking over and leave my team?
- 39:14Speaker 1: Uh? I would say my.
- 39:17Speaker 2: Third year, third fourth of you then we went to
- 39:20Speaker 2: the finals and then going I would say, going to
- 39:23Speaker 2: the Olympics too. Man, there's so many different situations playing
- 39:26Speaker 2: the Olympic teams. Starting on Olympic team. Uh, that's what
- 39:31Speaker 2: I'm like. Man, I'm one of these guys. You know,
- 39:33Speaker 2: I'm here with Kobe Bron, Jason Kidd Yellow, you know
- 39:38Speaker 2: I'm starting with these guys and the league was just
- 39:43Speaker 2: so crazy back then, just to be mentioned with Kobe
- 39:46Speaker 2: and Brunh.
- 39:49Speaker 1: Yeah, with the commercial finals whole.
- 39:57Speaker 2: You talk about the the puppets and sh made my
- 40:00Speaker 2: own puppet. I still got him at the prem Since
- 40:04Speaker 2: you brought up m v P. I know that Derrick Rose,
- 40:07Speaker 2: uh what you said he was? He was number two
- 40:11Speaker 2: that year. Ye got it everybody in the commons slight man.
- 40:16Speaker 2: He wasn't getting that ship over d Rod, which I think.
- 40:18Speaker 1: Now you want to get to the white what happened that? Why?
- 40:25Speaker 1: Why he should have got it? Bro? He had that
- 40:27Speaker 1: Bulls team Rocket it was number one and you had
- 40:30Speaker 1: to go. Yeah, they had the whole. They had they
- 40:34Speaker 1: had Boozer, they had a good team, They had a
- 40:36Speaker 1: good squad. It wasn't just to No, it was just him.
- 40:39Speaker 1: It was not him.
- 40:42Speaker 2: When he got hurt, Boozer, they good, they good players.
- 40:46Speaker 2: But it was all because of Pool though, like Pool
- 40:48Speaker 2: made the injury, like he was they have him. He
- 40:51Speaker 2: had the city cracking. I think that the effect to
- 40:54Speaker 2: his effect of being at the crib and pulling the
- 40:56Speaker 2: Bulls back up like that.
- 40:57Speaker 1: Yeah, after with the magine he brought did the same thing.
- 41:01Speaker 1: I ain't saying you did you did, you did Joe,
- 41:04Speaker 1: you did.
- 41:04Speaker 3: Your big one Bro, But that that ship was BRO
- 41:08Speaker 3: in Chicago, Yes, just a better market.
- 41:14Speaker 1: He was just exciting. He was a small guard BRO,
- 41:17Speaker 1: and they, like BRO said, but they was number one
- 41:18Speaker 1: BRO in the league.
- 41:20Speaker 2: It was that's that's good that I said that. So
- 41:23Speaker 2: shay or Yoki this year, this year he gotta asked them.
- 41:29Speaker 2: We got the NVTT. But last year they told he
- 41:35Speaker 2: has to do more. He should be last year he
- 41:38Speaker 2: should have got the best working in the league.
- 41:40Speaker 1: He should have. You know, the joke is the best
- 41:42Speaker 1: player in the league. Nobody gonna argue that. But this
- 41:45Speaker 1: your first big the average triple double though, that ship, Bro,
- 41:48Speaker 1: he's one of the cats. He's one of the best
- 41:50Speaker 1: centers of all time. There's no question.
- 41:53Speaker 2: Especially I gotta get the v B Bro that they
- 41:55Speaker 2: out of pocket.
- 41:55Speaker 1: He going m v P. He got to.
- 41:57Speaker 2: But the Rose that year, Bro like people had to
- 42:01Speaker 2: link up to beat him. Yeah, Bron had to beat
- 42:05Speaker 2: the Magic who they been to these are conference finals
- 42:10Speaker 2: when they got hurt. When he got hurt, though, they
- 42:12Speaker 2: still was number one.
- 42:13Speaker 1: Like the next year. I think that's no. I think that.
- 42:17Speaker 1: That's when Jimmy Butler had with Jordan left. Yeah, they
- 42:21Speaker 1: weren't number one.
- 42:22Speaker 2: That is still the was a little top team, I
- 42:25Speaker 2: mean because Nate Robinson was hooping that year and ship,
- 42:28Speaker 2: but it was in the same Bro.
- 42:30Speaker 1: I mean, take you off the Orlando Magic. They asked too,
- 42:35Speaker 1: not asked, but they were. My team was cold. Man,
- 42:38Speaker 1: if you don't play, though you don't play, who was
- 42:41Speaker 1: your backup center? It was a great backup. Shout out
- 42:45Speaker 1: to Marscene. He was good. Was up for a minute.
- 42:48Speaker 1: They had a crazy pick. What they call that pick.
- 42:53Speaker 1: He got his own screen. That's that's cold. Now. To
- 42:56Speaker 1: be in the league and had a screen or whatever
- 42:59Speaker 1: name after you, that's pretty tough. He niggas on the screen.
- 43:02Speaker 1: You think you should have got the MVP over d Rose.
- 43:05Speaker 1: I'm gonna be yeah, I mean I can't say that.
- 43:10Speaker 1: I thought that was my year. I thought that was
- 43:12Speaker 1: my year.
- 43:13Speaker 2: I mean obviously, you know, I ain't gonna never hit
- 43:15Speaker 2: on d Rose because that's my dog. He's been with Adidas.
- 43:19Speaker 2: You know, that's when we first started, you know, kicking
- 43:21Speaker 2: a little bit. But he I was like, dang, I
- 43:25Speaker 2: thought that was my year. Bro, I thought that was
- 43:28Speaker 2: you know what's crazy, I think obviously crazy apathetical. If
- 43:31Speaker 2: you did that in Atlanta, they would have gave it
- 43:33Speaker 2: the v P. I think the city effect that he
- 43:35Speaker 2: had obviously played for not but the way that he
- 43:37Speaker 2: brought that city up and that support behind him was
- 43:39Speaker 2: so crazy. They was the novel because that was a
- 43:42Speaker 2: basketball city that miss Jordan and they just like, all
- 43:44Speaker 2: we got the next game from here, SA type ship
- 43:47Speaker 2: and even killing either.
- 43:49Speaker 4: So what was the biggest snub m v P snub
- 43:52Speaker 4: to y'all?
- 43:53Speaker 1: It gotta be gotta be.
- 43:55Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that that's tough. That's a tough question.
- 44:01Speaker 2: I had the biggest snub Shack could have got one
- 44:04Speaker 2: of me, say the Shock and the Kobe. Yeah, Shaka
- 44:08Speaker 2: Kobe should have got the MVPs.
- 44:10Speaker 1: But that should have won every year every year. Damn
- 44:14Speaker 1: two thousands, bro, every year you should have won early
- 44:17Speaker 1: two thousands.
- 44:18Speaker 3: Yeah, for him only have one out? Why you think
- 44:21Speaker 3: why you only think he got one? I don't know, bro,
- 44:24Speaker 3: because it's bullshit.
- 44:26Speaker 2: Because is about to have full and but he really
- 44:29Speaker 2: killed in the playoffs though, yeah, was killed in the
- 44:31Speaker 2: regular season. He killed, But I mean the document he
- 44:34Speaker 2: was coasting it till time to kill.
- 44:36Speaker 1: Yeah, he killed in the playoffs. He was a hes
- 44:38Speaker 1: gonna get twenty five?
- 44:40Speaker 3: You know who I am, though, bro shack Yeah, because
- 44:43Speaker 3: I mean, sure they don't give you the m v
- 44:45Speaker 3: P to it what damn near the finals.
- 44:46Speaker 2: For the season though it's fun? They what is the
- 44:50Speaker 2: actual rules on it? Because it seemed like every year
- 44:52Speaker 2: switch up? Thank you it's season announcing the post season.
- 44:57Speaker 2: But everybody feels like we'd be like, all right, if
- 44:59Speaker 2: the the m v P in the first round, he
- 45:01Speaker 2: might not gave you.
- 45:02Speaker 1: B they need to switch all that up.
- 45:05Speaker 3: Yeah, and the qualifications of it just I think it
- 45:09Speaker 3: should be the most important player on the team. Like,
- 45:11Speaker 3: if we take this off the team, how good would
- 45:13Speaker 3: this team be? Realistically? I think that's how the MVP
- 45:16Speaker 3: should be.
- 45:17Speaker 2: I mean, but that's every team though, nah, I mean
- 45:20Speaker 2: everybody gonna have them their MVP candidate.
- 45:22Speaker 1: Your team is like top five.
- 45:24Speaker 3: But I'm saying, like, yo, joking how he said his
- 45:27Speaker 3: name joker h take him off the team, bro. They
- 45:32Speaker 3: they're mid bro, but you take if you take Jason
- 45:35Speaker 3: Tatum off the Celtics, to.
- 45:36Speaker 1: Take Jalen Brunton off the Knicks. They quiet playoffs.
- 45:46Speaker 2: Hell no, what this curtains for no disrespect to campaign
- 45:51Speaker 2: campaigns for the Knicks right now, the campaign the strongest
- 45:55Speaker 2: left handed.
- 45:57Speaker 1: He's so left handed, crazy from his ankle yesterday when
- 46:02Speaker 1: Jalen got found out. Yeah, Bro, I think you gotta.
- 46:07Speaker 2: I think you should at least be maybe top three
- 46:09Speaker 2: seed because I mean, you're not gonna get my MVP.
- 46:11Speaker 2: That's averaging thirty in a seven seen. I mean Yokas
- 46:15Speaker 2: winning one year that was like the six they gave
- 46:18Speaker 2: MVP the players that uh team wasn't top five.
- 46:23Speaker 1: It really happened.
- 46:24Speaker 2: But I mean the way he dominated under novel too
- 46:26Speaker 2: at that time.
- 46:27Speaker 1: I think KG could have got a couple a couple
- 46:29Speaker 1: more times too.
- 46:30Speaker 2: Bro.
- 46:30Speaker 1: In Minnesota. Yeah, KG used to kill in Minnesota. They
- 46:33Speaker 1: just win. He got it. He got at the time
- 46:35Speaker 1: he needed to get it. They just wasn't winning.
- 46:37Speaker 2: Bro, He's just really hard to come back because you
- 46:40Speaker 2: played with Brian, he played with Kobe.
- 46:44Speaker 1: Like what was the difference between them two? Like Kobe
- 46:50Speaker 1: Kobe's an asshole.
- 46:52Speaker 2: Not saying his asshole to me, I'm just saying like
- 46:54Speaker 2: his personality, like he an asshole, Like he don't give
- 46:58Speaker 2: a fuck.
- 46:58Speaker 1: Yeah, Brian, give a fuck. He won't.
- 47:01Speaker 2: He won't everybody to like him. He won't to joke around, laugh,
- 47:06Speaker 2: have a good time. I just think they two in
- 47:08Speaker 2: two ends of the spectrum when it comes to their
- 47:10Speaker 2: personalities and on the court, Kobe's just trying to get fifty.
- 47:18Speaker 2: He's trying to kill We think was better.
- 47:24Speaker 1: Ship.
- 47:26Speaker 2: Scoring wise, you gotta go with Kobe how and Broun
- 47:30Speaker 2: got the most points in league history because he played.
- 47:32Speaker 1: For the longest. He getting dunks and lay ups. I'm
- 47:35Speaker 1: talking about scored. It is scoring. It is scoring. I'm saying,
- 47:39Speaker 1: like as far as getting buckets.
- 47:41Speaker 2: Like Ship all the way around, we get buckets if
- 47:45Speaker 2: you can't stop and getting to the best.
- 47:47Speaker 1: Listen, don't fall into that dwhight. I'm just saying I
- 47:51Speaker 1: think I think the best scorer all the time, but Brown.
- 47:54Speaker 3: Is the best in different spots. Though Kobe could get
- 47:57Speaker 3: to it better than Brin. I't got to get to that.
- 47:59Speaker 2: Spiders on you over, you can't really because Kareem had
- 48:03Speaker 2: the most points before because.
- 48:06Speaker 1: And I think.
- 48:08Speaker 2: I still would think. I'm always going with Kareem because
- 48:12Speaker 2: I think he got the one shot. I used to
- 48:14Speaker 2: tell them Kareem to go because he got one shot
- 48:17Speaker 2: and nobody could stop. He had thirty thousand points doing twos.
- 48:20Speaker 2: He shoot no threes, He have no threes.
- 48:26Speaker 1: What he was good?
- 48:28Speaker 2: He did play twenty eight years, he's still doing two
- 48:31Speaker 2: points to get thirty thousand. He is the greatest height
- 48:36Speaker 2: he did. He got the most high school and college accolades.
- 48:39Speaker 1: All that stuff.
- 48:40Speaker 2: His saying like you would take Broun because it's just
- 48:46Speaker 2: not I just watched basketball, and I'm like, I would
- 48:49Speaker 2: take you.
- 48:50Speaker 1: Kareem is literally one and done. Who's stopping Kareem? What
- 48:53Speaker 1: I'm saying, you would never see that ever again, there's
- 48:55Speaker 1: no more correct. Your dad did not have you in
- 48:59Speaker 1: the hood hook shots like I was doing hook shots
- 49:03Speaker 1: on my own. That's one of my favorite shots. Yeah,
- 49:05Speaker 1: but you you never, you never, you never. My likes
- 49:11Speaker 1: mom was running hooks. I did all run up your leg.
- 49:16Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wasn't. Drops. You did not say I
- 49:24Speaker 1: want to put like career. No, I didn't know. I wasn't.
- 49:29Speaker 1: Nobody said that said said he made the shot because
- 49:34Speaker 1: they've been dunking, right.
- 49:35Speaker 2: I want to know how because because the goals, the
- 49:39Speaker 2: goals probably wasn't a strong to handle people dunking like
- 49:43Speaker 2: that than they are now. So I can understand that
- 49:46Speaker 2: because when I was in high school, and that's not
- 49:49Speaker 2: even that long ago, we couldn't dunk in warm ups.
- 49:53Speaker 1: I still can't do that. No, you know that's really
- 49:55Speaker 1: because goals and stuff like that. We know in Jersey,
- 50:00Speaker 1: Jersey anything man, Jersey man. We don't want about to
- 50:05Speaker 1: add to y'all have a shot clock? What in Georgia?
- 50:11Speaker 1: I don't even remember.
- 50:15Speaker 2: What?
- 50:15Speaker 1: Like, man, what's that the what's that? The game? Let's
- 50:27Speaker 1: get this. Yeah, he answer the question a little better.
- 50:34Speaker 1: Damn man, trying to.
- 50:35Speaker 2: Let you trying to everything everything combined. You got to
- 50:40Speaker 2: give it to Lebron okay bat scoring wise, I gotta say,
- 50:45Speaker 2: I like Kobe. If it's late in the game, I'm
- 50:47Speaker 2: giving the ball to Cobe. I'm not gonna get the
- 50:50Speaker 2: ball of Lebron late in the game, I'll give it
- 50:51Speaker 2: to Kobe. I said, Lebron got he got it.
- 50:55Speaker 1: I take that.
- 50:56Speaker 2: That is funny to hell that Lebron is like you're
- 50:58Speaker 2: considered as a score. He got the most buckets ever.
- 51:01Speaker 2: We understand how, but that's crazy.
- 51:03Speaker 1: I never understood it. Twenty five every year. Well, I
- 51:06Speaker 1: have the most buckets ever brought.
- 51:08Speaker 3: He don't have career, He don't have a Kareem style line.
- 51:10Speaker 3: Bron score all over the floor. I mean, of course
- 51:12Speaker 3: you get the majority of.
- 51:14Speaker 1: Have a bag.
- 51:16Speaker 2: I'm bigger, I'm stronger, I'm faster. I don't need I
- 51:18Speaker 2: don't need a bat let it don't he don't let
- 51:23Speaker 2: you know he don't love.
- 51:26Speaker 1: Don't first of all, don't disrespect one of the best
- 51:28Speaker 1: basketball I'm coming on front. There's no way I'm letting
- 51:36Speaker 1: this man. Look at his hand and the ball he
- 51:40Speaker 1: do he right at his hand and look at them.
- 51:43Speaker 1: Man go back. That's how I know to go.
- 51:46Speaker 2: When he was younger, he get disrespectful to fit the
- 51:48Speaker 2: ball in his hand. And Jay, I'm like, Barn is
- 51:50Speaker 2: so fucking disrespect because we know you're not fasting. Bro,
- 51:52Speaker 2: y'all I think y'all might got Bron fucked up.
- 51:54Speaker 1: Bron got a bag. Bro, have you got bag? But
- 51:59Speaker 1: he got a bag. I ain't got no bad he
- 52:01Speaker 1: got Bro. Because it's passing, it goes into that too.
- 52:05Speaker 1: I mean, he could pass like a month. He could
- 52:07Speaker 1: pass like crazy. Don't we talking about his bag.
- 52:10Speaker 2: Like he's not a handler for three hundred, Bro, I
- 52:14Speaker 2: don't need the bag. Bro, get out my way or
- 52:16Speaker 2: you're gonna go Bro. The facts seen Brian twin twin
- 52:20Speaker 2: swing pull up. I mean here, he's nice, but he
- 52:25Speaker 2: ain't got handles like that.
- 52:26Speaker 1: So you say he better than Jordan, come on up
- 52:31Speaker 1: your podcasts and then yeah, I think he better better
- 52:33Speaker 1: than Jordan. Yeah, and what shooting everything? Oh, it ain't nothing.
- 52:39Speaker 1: He can't do that. Mic about shooting ship Mike and
- 52:42Speaker 1: shoot threes.
- 52:44Speaker 2: Mike had a crazy elite fight away, but well he
- 52:48Speaker 2: can't do that, Mic, real I want to hear besides
- 52:52Speaker 2: the final stuff.
- 52:53Speaker 1: But I feel like me.
- 52:54Speaker 2: I feel like Brian played better players in the finals
- 52:57Speaker 2: and had to go to some tougher roads like oh
- 53:00Speaker 2: we ship, you got Detroit, said Mike didn't play Detroit
- 53:06Speaker 2: in the finals.
- 53:06Speaker 1: He had to get through Detroit.
- 53:08Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but he had to play with the electrics
- 53:10Speaker 2: scenes that was all the magic.
- 53:12Speaker 1: That pho magic was magic was old magic. They played
- 53:17Speaker 1: the son but Curry Kevin Durant. Nah but this, yeah,
- 53:26Speaker 1: we do got the best, that's bro.
- 53:29Speaker 2: Yeah, I played okay, see the one I won. I
- 53:32Speaker 2: played three Hall of Famers and James Hard and Westbrook
- 53:34Speaker 2: and KD. He had to get through KG, and then
- 53:37Speaker 2: then I had to I had to get through Boston.
- 53:40Speaker 2: Bost was historically good SPIST five Hall of Famers.
- 53:44Speaker 1: Mm hmm. And that goes say team is one of
- 53:46Speaker 1: the best teams in NBA history, NBA history.
- 53:48Speaker 2: And then who no disrespect to Mike, but he played
- 53:52Speaker 2: John Stock and Caromelonge.
- 53:55Speaker 1: That was cold though, Bro, But that duo.
- 53:58Speaker 2: Is not better than no other? Is his name that
- 54:02Speaker 2: Bro played in the finals? You taking freaky Caral bro along.
- 54:07Speaker 2: You're taking him over Tim Duncan, Parker.
- 54:10Speaker 1: Freaky call though crazy? Wow, I won't stay out of that.
- 54:17Speaker 1: You can't freaky he was? He was? You think you
- 54:23Speaker 1: think you think that you take Tim Duncan and John
- 54:30Speaker 1: why not? Yeah, I'm taking him Duncan all day. He's better.
- 54:36Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm taking defensive aspect too. Yeah, I'm taking this
- 54:40Speaker 2: argument who better Tim Duncan O KG.
- 54:43Speaker 1: Tim respected K because expected Tim Duncan had a better career.
- 54:48Speaker 1: I'm taking K want me. That's not said.
- 54:53Speaker 2: I got san Antonio who if he was more of
- 54:56Speaker 2: a selfish player, the stats would have been more.
- 54:58Speaker 1: Sheet over Tim Duncan. M yeah, I'm not manus. He
- 55:01Speaker 1: must get you buckets. Yeah yeah, you know she was
- 55:06Speaker 1: cold man, he was hit the white room, that type ship.
- 55:12Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, strips to get ain't the way hell he
- 55:18Speaker 1: think he better? What come on, y'all gotta crazy.
- 55:24Speaker 2: I can't do that because she didn't have those comp
- 55:27Speaker 2: Rashid was more of a team. He didn't really care
- 55:29Speaker 2: about having. Now take is the most team friendly nigga
- 55:35Speaker 2: I ever seen in my life, even fifty games. Took
- 55:40Speaker 2: those first since Yeah, because on the back end he
- 55:43Speaker 2: was getting paid. Of course he still get probably getting paid.
- 55:45Speaker 2: But I'm just saying it looked like it looked good.
- 55:47Speaker 2: Look at your other person, y'all think he just took him.
- 55:50Speaker 2: He's gonna have real state. Yeah back, so y'all taking? Okay,
- 55:55Speaker 2: so kg or Rashid I got, I'm gonna take.
- 56:01Speaker 1: But Tim Duncan over all them. You can't miss with
- 56:03Speaker 1: either one of those are all three part of the top.
- 56:05Speaker 1: It was the first one to me to do what
- 56:07Speaker 1: he did.
- 56:07Speaker 2: So you're gonna take that jazz team over this person.
- 56:10Speaker 2: Tim Duncan. Genobian I don't.
- 56:13Speaker 1: Even like Utah. I don't know because said.
- 56:19Speaker 2: In respect to Genobe is Cooking Hill for sure. What
- 56:24Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, Bron, Bron played better teams?
- 56:29Speaker 1: He did, Bro, was that nigga shot the Greg User tag?
- 56:32Speaker 2: But well, we can't even say we can't even say
- 56:36Speaker 2: Bron did play against better teams.
- 56:40Speaker 1: Playing against K, you gotta go through K D. Russ
- 56:43Speaker 1: and James har Gott to do his beat Charles Barkley,
- 56:46Speaker 1: Stephan Stephen Curry, Draymond Green. That's just we're just looking
- 56:51Speaker 1: at it from the paper like we not.
- 56:53Speaker 2: Actually some of these guys may not didn't have a
- 56:56Speaker 2: name like the kg's and all that, but they was
- 56:59Speaker 2: cold then.
- 57:01Speaker 1: Defense and all that old seven Calfs team which alf
- 57:07Speaker 1: the world can't remember? Who was on that team?
- 57:09Speaker 2: Finals, Bro, his fingers count I renewable? Who else is
- 57:22Speaker 2: on that team? What's the ball head point guard?
- 57:26Speaker 1: You gotta do that? Williams start with.
- 57:32Speaker 2: Yeah, he was snow, very snow. That's that's the one
- 57:39Speaker 2: of the strongest point guards in the history.
- 57:44Speaker 1: Just another question about his life. You gotta start saying,
- 57:48Speaker 1: what the nigga? One of the struggles everything?
- 57:50Speaker 2: You know?
- 57:50Speaker 1: You he who was on that team? That's what I'm saying, Bro.
- 57:57Speaker 1: Anderson Baras out. He was. He was on the team
- 58:00Speaker 1: and the tall Bron was what twenty one so freaking
- 58:06Speaker 1: was there? He was a two guard, the point guard.
- 58:09Speaker 2: Give come on, bro, Yeah, y'all about movie. Think about
- 58:13Speaker 2: when Bron left no disrespect the movie gifts and what happened. Yeah, bro,
- 58:18Speaker 2: not even to the team.
- 58:19Speaker 1: That city died. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. She got
- 58:23Speaker 1: so happened when Bron retired from the league.
- 58:26Speaker 2: Yeah, Anthony for sure. Okay, he shout out, so he
- 58:31Speaker 2: the face john face job job, blew it up, shut
- 58:37Speaker 2: it up.
- 58:38Speaker 1: I don't think that they wanted y'all to be the
- 58:39Speaker 1: face of the league. What about Wenby? No, No, he
- 58:42Speaker 1: ain't got no person, no disrespect. But you can't. You
- 58:44Speaker 1: can't be from like a different country and be the
- 58:46Speaker 1: face of Yeah, he got to clean his English some more.
- 58:52Speaker 1: That's yeah, I just can't be You don't. You don't
- 58:56Speaker 1: even do no media or nothing.
- 58:57Speaker 2: But he's white. He's there, quote unquote, don't shape for
- 59:00Speaker 2: an athlete. He finished the stereo type of everything they
- 59:02Speaker 2: woul want to promote as men face.
- 59:04Speaker 1: Ain't he good? If he ain't doing it, bro, it's
- 59:06Speaker 1: probably gonna be like.
- 59:07Speaker 2: Even Luca like Luca cole But you can't be the
- 59:09Speaker 2: face of the league because they you can barely understand
- 59:11Speaker 2: the call.
- 59:13Speaker 1: You you gotta win. If he win this ship, they
- 59:16Speaker 1: gonna give it here.
- 59:17Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be Minnesota versus the Knicks.
- 59:20Speaker 1: Yeah, I got Minnesota Knicks Finals. That's hard like that.
- 59:23Speaker 2: He's crazy, say, I appreciate you coming on the shop,
- 59:27Speaker 2: but the pace would be an NBA finals. You know
- 59:29Speaker 2: what I didn't, I've been rocking in the end. I
- 59:32Speaker 2: just think that New York might get him this year
- 59:34Speaker 2: because they just they got they got a big they
- 59:37Speaker 2: got they got it big, and that can post shoot
- 59:40Speaker 2: do it. Also, that's why I got Knicks.
- 59:44Speaker 4: Why do you think Halliburton voted most hated.
- 59:47Speaker 1: Because I don't like him.
- 59:48Speaker 2: But it's no way I heard that it was only
- 59:50Speaker 2: thirteen guys that said that he was overrated. It's only
- 59:53Speaker 2: thirteen people who did that vote. That wasn't even a
- 59:55Speaker 2: whole bunch of people, for real, They.
- 59:57Speaker 1: Just blew the whole student now operated though, But he
- 59:59Speaker 1: now Brad he's nice. He nice, He's definitely nice. But
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: I think it's because he was having such a rough
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year it was rough. Yeah
- 1:00:08Speaker 1: he is he a top ten point guard right now? Yeah?
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: Hell yeah? Name who better than him? Name name?
- 1:00:15Speaker 2: Are you taking a little Tyres talibur right now for
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: the just know, right now before the injury? If you
- 1:00:24Speaker 2: go look at the Dame stats, I got damn any team. Yeah,
- 1:00:28Speaker 2: of course you gotta go with Dame. But I'm taking
- 1:00:31Speaker 2: Tyres right now.
- 1:00:32Speaker 3: Okay, your shame team, nigga, Dame B Dame, goddamn Tyrese
- 1:00:39Speaker 3: are your shame team.
- 1:00:41Speaker 2: You gotta take them the China right now, right now,
- 1:00:46Speaker 2: I'm taking Dang, So you take it. You gotta go
- 1:00:53Speaker 2: to He's taking Jayleb Brusto, Tyres Haliburt to War.
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: I gotta go with Jay. Okay? Are you taking Jama
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: Rent or Tyre's Halliburton to tai War? Taking job? Okay?
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: Let's you're taking Kyrie Irvin or Tyres Haliburt Tawan? Oh man,
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: I'm taking kyn Halle over all this this is gonna
- 1:01:22Speaker 2: be affair with tray or Tyres Haliburton the Taiwan. Oh
- 1:01:26Speaker 2: come on, come on, you're trying to get the win.
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: You try to go back to the finals. Who you're
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: taking out of who? All the people just name. I'm
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: taking Halleklie gonna get me there.
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: Yeah yeah from listen man want two three way back.
- 1:01:52Speaker 2: Huh Kyrie Man, Kyrie, he's gonna tell you, yeah, Kyrie
- 1:01:57Speaker 2: gonna throw me Lass. But he don't want to play
- 1:01:59Speaker 2: in ta war. But he said on your Orlando team,
- 1:02:04Speaker 2: on my Orlando team to go back to the finals,
- 1:02:07Speaker 2: that the white I need.
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: I need Halle because hes gonna he gonna, He's gonna
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: get me a lot of assist He talking about who
- 1:02:15Speaker 1: he want to play with. He ain't saying who better. Yeah,
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: I'm not saying who better.
- 1:02:18Speaker 2: I'm saying the person who might make my job easier
- 1:02:21Speaker 2: is Halle because that's what type of point guard.
- 1:02:24Speaker 1: He Yeah, so I can't. I think you'd be good too,
- 1:02:28Speaker 1: because he told a lot a lot.
- 1:02:30Speaker 2: So I'm looking at guys that's gonna be good for
- 1:02:32Speaker 2: how I play. Guys that's gonna find me in my
- 1:02:34Speaker 2: spots where I can finish easy and stuff like that.
- 1:02:37Speaker 2: So I know Halley from how he playing me and
- 1:02:40Speaker 2: him in a pick a roll, you can't drop, it's
- 1:02:43Speaker 2: over with. You can't travel because he's picking you apart.
- 1:02:47Speaker 2: Now if I'm rolling down the lane, I got my
- 1:02:49Speaker 2: four four shooters over with. Yeah, and I think, I mean,
- 1:02:54Speaker 2: we're a subscribed but for the way that our role
- 1:02:56Speaker 2: players excel, but the way he gets them open shots
- 1:02:58Speaker 2: is like really underrated, I think, because he creates everything.
- 1:03:01Speaker 1: When he don't play, we are sad. We're not a
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: good team. He's down that court. That's why I think
- 1:03:05Speaker 1: you might win because if Hallie ain't out there.
- 1:03:10Speaker 2: Yeah. The only thing I like my chances with the
- 1:03:12Speaker 2: Knicks is that we was cacking foul. So I know
- 1:03:14Speaker 2: that cat's going foul. My kind of keep him out
- 1:03:16Speaker 2: the paint. Their wings are really really good. They upgraded obviously,
- 1:03:20Speaker 2: but our.
- 1:03:20Speaker 1: Wings ain't soft, and the physical good wings were not soft. Yeah.
- 1:03:27Speaker 2: Going to this place of ship, we're getting on the
- 1:03:30Speaker 2: basketball Yeah yeah, get well. So going back to New York,
- 1:03:38Speaker 2: they're about to get that's about to be a totally
- 1:03:39Speaker 2: different team next year.
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: There's some major changes.
- 1:03:42Speaker 2: I can imagine gonn happen because they trying to get
- 1:03:44Speaker 2: into that sellar cap mm hmm. And they have to
- 1:03:46Speaker 2: do some contracts and they got a new owner too.
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: Yeah. Do y'all think they need some more teams around
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: the league? At least she deserves the team players. I
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: love us. Nice team. Okay, you have a team, and.
- 1:04:02Speaker 2: I think Seattle should have a team. Vegas and Seattle
- 1:04:05Speaker 2: should have a team.
- 1:04:07Speaker 1: Ye Vegas, what the Vegas? The Vegas? Wow? With that
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: being said, wow, did he really just say that your son?
- 1:04:20Speaker 1: What the mascot? Gonna be?
- 1:04:31Speaker 2: Right?
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: This ain't no smoke. I'm just listen. You were rescinding
- 1:04:48Speaker 1: all that Westen, I'm rescinding my whatever you want to
- 1:04:53Speaker 1: call it. I recentding.
- 1:04:58Speaker 2: I want to ask you, Sai, because we went to
- 1:05:00Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame thing, it's gonna be mellow and
- 1:05:03Speaker 2: uh and Dwight next year is gonna be a hard decision.
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: I don't think it's a lot of names who.
- 1:05:10Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be Stottamaya, Uh, Blake Griffin, john Wall,
- 1:05:15Speaker 2: Andre Dollar, and Joe Johnson. I think Dollar get it. Yeah,
- 1:05:20Speaker 2: he's gonna get in. I think Blake might you got to.
- 1:05:25Speaker 2: I think like a high possibility of him getting in
- 1:05:28Speaker 2: for sure. I think Joe get in too, go around
- 1:05:33Speaker 2: and Joe seven time all story, Joe should get in.
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: Joe And you said stat right, Stam, I ain't know.
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: Stott wasn't Mark was cold. It was cold. Yeah. I
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: think what he used to do. He used to suck
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: him dunking up. Yeah, yeah he did. Yeah, I I
- 1:05:55Speaker 1: think I see what you're trying to.
- 1:05:59Speaker 2: You're trying to whatever I form my Marty never got hurt.
- 1:06:02Speaker 2: Where does that put him in power forwards?
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: All? Definitely he was gonna be tive crazy. Yeah, and
- 1:06:12Speaker 1: that's why. And that's no smout to Steve Nash.
- 1:06:13Speaker 2: But you look at those Phoenix teams and the rosters
- 1:06:15Speaker 2: that they had, like that he had Joe Johnson, he
- 1:06:18Speaker 2: had that.
- 1:06:19Speaker 1: Like, yeah, they had to give it to the I
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: had to give it to Steve Nash though man may
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: be cool.
- 1:06:27Speaker 4: Yeah, but then playing with a point guard like Nash
- 1:06:29Speaker 4: mixed out of my yeah.
- 1:06:32Speaker 1: Did but was fired on New York too. He was
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: fired with New York.
- 1:06:35Speaker 2: But it was kind of he didn't have that Uh
- 1:06:39Speaker 2: he had that point guard he heard because you got
- 1:06:42Speaker 2: like when Chris Paul is with Clint Coppella, it's like
- 1:06:45Speaker 2: Clint Coppella being you know, he left wasn't the same.
- 1:06:49Speaker 2: I'd be like saying with him like he had like
- 1:06:51Speaker 2: a real pass. First, you got to think he went
- 1:06:53Speaker 2: with Kobe James James Harden could pass just he just choose.
- 1:07:00Speaker 1: We want to say Clinton. It was nice for James
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: because Clinton was that's just throwing lives all day. You
- 1:07:06Speaker 1: probably that's that's a whole different era. Like I think
- 1:07:09Speaker 1: Jamia was like that.
- 1:07:11Speaker 2: But then once we started doing the one with the
- 1:07:15Speaker 2: four out one end, everybody shoot threes, then they kind
- 1:07:19Speaker 2: of wanted a different style from just the pick and roll,
- 1:07:22Speaker 2: get to the basket, dunked and bitch. They wanted more threes.
- 1:07:26Speaker 2: You might have looked different though with Rondo. Well I
- 1:07:29Speaker 2: was in my prime with Rondo. Yeah, it would have
- 1:07:32Speaker 2: been different. It would have been different.
- 1:07:34Speaker 1: Bro.
- 1:07:34Speaker 2: You I think you played with Kobe, then you went
- 1:07:37Speaker 2: with Harden, and you went with John Wall and went
- 1:07:40Speaker 2: who's the other guy, Kimba Walker?
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: Now you always that's true.
- 1:07:46Speaker 2: That's a good call, bro. I see, I see what
- 1:07:47Speaker 2: you're saying for real. Actually, what was the crazy season?
- 1:07:50Speaker 2: The Charlotte year or.
- 1:07:53Speaker 1: The Washington year?
- 1:07:55Speaker 2: My Charlotte we said crazy Earth, Yeah was crazy, man,
- 1:08:00Speaker 2: I had in Washington.
- 1:08:02Speaker 1: It was a lot of shit that happened. That was like, damn.
- 1:08:04Speaker 2: I had back surgery that year, so that year was
- 1:08:10Speaker 2: crazy and I was playing on one leg for half
- 1:08:12Speaker 2: the season when I played with Washington. So when I
- 1:08:15Speaker 2: did play for Washington, I was so hurt that I
- 1:08:19Speaker 2: couldn't even tie my shoes. The trainers had to put
- 1:08:21Speaker 2: my shoes on my feet for me. I couldn't sit
- 1:08:24Speaker 2: down on the bench because my back. I had to
- 1:08:27Speaker 2: stand up during timeouts. I had to stand up the
- 1:08:29Speaker 2: whole time during games. On the planes, I couldn't sit down.
- 1:08:34Speaker 2: They had to give me like a bed that I
- 1:08:38Speaker 2: could take everywhere. On the buses, I couldn't sit down.
- 1:08:42Speaker 2: So that year was real tough for me physically because
- 1:08:45Speaker 2: I don't think people understand that herniated disk in your
- 1:08:48Speaker 2: back is probably one of the worst injuries you could
- 1:08:50Speaker 2: have in life, not just basketball. So me having that
- 1:08:55Speaker 2: injury trying to play it was the worst decision I
- 1:08:59Speaker 2: made from doing that. But then I had the surgery,
- 1:09:01Speaker 2: came back, and we want a chip chip the next year.
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy.
- 1:09:07Speaker 2: They always like criticized athletes for like not paying, playing
- 1:09:10Speaker 2: through the paint or stuff like that, But like normal people,
- 1:09:12Speaker 2: they could go to work, right, you couldn't stand up
- 1:09:15Speaker 2: like you couldn't te that's for you not to be
- 1:09:18Speaker 2: still with swooping. That's still what out there and played.
- 1:09:20Speaker 2: I could tie my own shoes like this. I couldn't
- 1:09:24Speaker 2: do that, you know, I'm just having to go out
- 1:09:27Speaker 2: there and play with that. That's crazy. You don't know
- 1:09:30Speaker 2: how I did about. I was like, man, I gotta
- 1:09:31Speaker 2: keep playing because I want to I want to win
- 1:09:33Speaker 2: this chip. And that's all I was talking about chasing
- 1:09:36Speaker 2: the ring earlier and all that stuff. I think that's
- 1:09:38Speaker 2: such a bad approach. That's why we're Janni's like, dude,
- 1:09:41Speaker 2: you're gonna have some good years and bad years. Michael
- 1:09:44Speaker 2: Jordan played for fourteen years. He won six championships, so
- 1:09:47Speaker 2: he didn't win the rest of the years, you know
- 1:09:49Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
- 1:09:50Speaker 1: So it's quote, uh he said that.
- 1:09:55Speaker 2: But it's true though, Like you know, we we as players,
- 1:10:00Speaker 2: we expect to win. Then the fans and everybody else
- 1:10:05Speaker 2: expects for us to win the same way. So now
- 1:10:07Speaker 2: we're putting that added pressure on us, you know. And
- 1:10:09Speaker 2: I think Jannis, they lose a couple of years. Everybody like,
- 1:10:13Speaker 2: man's Joanna's fault. He gotta do this, he gotta do that,
- 1:10:15Speaker 2: he gotta get better, and it's just all noise. You
- 1:10:18Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. If I could go back. I
- 1:10:21Speaker 2: just shut all that noise off man and just continue
- 1:10:23Speaker 2: to focus on getting better, like he wanted the coldest ever,
- 1:10:26Speaker 2: Like he should never leave Milwaukee.
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: He gonna get everything he wan't add more in Milwaukee.
- 1:10:31Speaker 2: He gonna go somewhere else and find out that the
- 1:10:33Speaker 2: people really might not fuck with him like they do.
- 1:10:37Speaker 4: He talking about him like going to the Spurs. That
- 1:10:40Speaker 4: might hurt crazy.
- 1:10:42Speaker 1: That would be crazy him and winby then that's gonna
- 1:10:45Speaker 1: be scary.
- 1:10:46Speaker 3: I think people to pull it up on you if
- 1:10:47Speaker 3: you have stayed in Orlando. I think people would have
- 1:10:49Speaker 3: pulled up on your Orlando. I don't think niggas pulling
- 1:10:51Speaker 3: up to Milwaukee too. With Yannis, nobody was pulling up
- 1:10:53Speaker 3: to Orlando. He said, we was trying. They with nobody
- 1:10:57Speaker 3: know they couldn't get nobody. Who was somebody that you
- 1:10:59Speaker 3: wanted to I'm over there.
- 1:11:02Speaker 2: Steven Jackson, somebody for like defense and stuff like that
- 1:11:07Speaker 2: like that. Really, I love my squad. I ain't want
- 1:11:11Speaker 2: to trade nobody on my team. When I wanted to
- 1:11:14Speaker 2: leave Orlando, it was solely just based off me. My decision,
- 1:11:18Speaker 2: like I felt like I needed a new place being
- 1:11:21Speaker 2: young at the time, like man everybody telling me, Man,
- 1:11:24Speaker 2: you need a new place. Man, you've been here for
- 1:11:25Speaker 2: so low. Man, go somewhere else and start over. I'm like, dang,
- 1:11:29Speaker 2: maybe that's what I need, you know what I'm saying.
- 1:11:32Speaker 2: So again I would say he got it. Shut all
- 1:11:35Speaker 2: the noise off, stay silent, man, because people gonna say
- 1:11:38Speaker 2: whatever they want to say. People gonna tell you how
- 1:11:41Speaker 2: they would handle the situation. But one, they ain't making
- 1:11:44Speaker 2: two hundred million dollars. They ain't the face of a franchise.
- 1:11:48Speaker 2: They ain't got all this stuff riding on them.
- 1:11:51Speaker 1: Whatever they choose, you know what I'm saying. So I
- 1:11:54Speaker 1: feel like he got to get quiet, get.
- 1:11:56Speaker 2: Away from everybody, let him make his own decision based
- 1:11:59Speaker 2: off what's gonna be best for his life.
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: He said that the Dame too, even Portland. I felt
- 1:12:04Speaker 1: like Dame should have.
- 1:12:06Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't believe in leaving. Like if somebody
- 1:12:08Speaker 2: give me the franchise, I'm staying.
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: Yeah. He talked about that all the time. I'm making
- 1:12:12Speaker 1: five hundred million and.
- 1:12:13Speaker 2: Just it's one thing I would say going back, like damn,
- 1:12:17Speaker 2: Like when you have something that's yours and it's really yours,
- 1:12:21Speaker 2: like that ship was mine, you know what I'm saying,
- 1:12:24Speaker 2: Milwaukee is his, you know, so now you give it up,
- 1:12:28Speaker 2: you leave that bitch opping for somebody else to come
- 1:12:30Speaker 2: in and take.
- 1:12:31Speaker 1: It, you know what I'm saying.
- 1:12:33Speaker 2: So, and the same people that will tell him to
- 1:12:35Speaker 2: leave with criticized him as soon as it don't work
- 1:12:38Speaker 2: that ot.
- 1:12:39Speaker 1: But he should have stayed. He should have stayed. You
- 1:12:40Speaker 1: shouldn't have left. Yeah, I know how that feels. Man.
- 1:12:43Speaker 2: So I hope he made the right, the best decision
- 1:12:46Speaker 2: for him and not for everybody else. And shot, I
- 1:12:51Speaker 2: fucked with Milwaukee.
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: At one point in my career, I was trying to
- 1:12:54Speaker 1: go to Milwaukee and I played for the Rockets. Oh
- 1:13:00Speaker 1: what was you on? You want to tell you all
- 1:13:02Speaker 1: the truth?
- 1:13:02Speaker 2: It's like, I see some potential in Milwaukee before y'all
- 1:13:05Speaker 2: won the championship. When y'are this, I was like, man,
- 1:13:08Speaker 2: I see some potential in Milwaukee. I want to play
- 1:13:11Speaker 2: with Jannis and all that. It's when I played for
- 1:13:13Speaker 2: the Rockets a couple of years later, y'all wanted you.
- 1:13:16Speaker 1: Well, you had the vision because I showeddn't see that. Everybody, nigga,
- 1:13:25Speaker 1: you out of pocket.
- 1:13:26Speaker 2: You got two NBA champions of my fate. I was
- 1:13:31Speaker 2: just there, which I think about that. People would say
- 1:13:35Speaker 2: they both fake. They say the bubble I was real,
- 1:13:38Speaker 2: but I ain't real.
- 1:13:39Speaker 1: I ain't do nothing. I was. What was your experience
- 1:13:43Speaker 1: like in the bubble speaking of that man? You like
- 1:13:46Speaker 1: that ship or what? Uh it was? I liked it
- 1:13:50Speaker 1: because I got a chance to just get away from everything.
- 1:13:52Speaker 2: But at the time, my son's mom had just passed
- 1:13:56Speaker 2: and they wouldn't let him in the bubble, So you
- 1:14:00Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. It was real difficult to be
- 1:14:02Speaker 2: without my son. And at first they told me he
- 1:14:05Speaker 2: could come. So that's why I was like, shooting, I'm
- 1:14:07Speaker 2: gonna go to the bubble if my son can come.
- 1:14:09Speaker 2: And when I got down there, it was like, nah,
- 1:14:11Speaker 2: you gotta stay over here, and you gotta stay over here,
- 1:14:15Speaker 2: and so it was before a couple a couple of weeks.
- 1:14:19Speaker 1: Then I just had to lock in and just kind
- 1:14:22Speaker 1: of block everything. Got to just hoop.
- 1:14:24Speaker 2: But the bubble was cold. It was hard to play
- 1:14:27Speaker 2: out there because you ain't got nothing. But the time, yeah,
- 1:14:31Speaker 2: so it was pure hoops at that time.
- 1:14:33Speaker 3: You turn them out there, no fans and ship like that.
- 1:14:37Speaker 3: That's how I think that was different for all all
- 1:14:39Speaker 3: the players though. Yeah, that ship out there, Bro, you
- 1:14:41Speaker 3: gotta be different mentally for that type of ship.
- 1:14:43Speaker 2: And people try to discribe it, Bro, it was a pandemic,
- 1:14:45Speaker 2: bro Like, yeah, that means the whole world is shut down?
- 1:14:48Speaker 2: What are you all talking about it with pressure on everybody.
- 1:14:51Speaker 1: Bro. Definitely for their family, Like people had.
- 1:14:53Speaker 2: To go leave their whole family and everything to go
- 1:14:56Speaker 2: down and play. You know, during this time, people get COVID,
- 1:14:59Speaker 2: people could die. George Floyd situation was just going on.
- 1:15:02Speaker 2: It was so much happening. They had a protest outside
- 1:15:06Speaker 2: of the hotel we were staying at when we was there.
- 1:15:11Speaker 1: So yeah, it's that's a real that's a real chick
- 1:15:16Speaker 1: for sure. Man. This man shout the pot out.
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