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IAAI Town Meeting: Lorelai and Rory Do Something That Makes Us Question Their Sanity (Season 4 E1 “Ballrooms and Biscotti”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I Am All in again. Oh it's you. I Am
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  Speaker 1: All in Town meeting with Suzanne French and Tara suit
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  Speaker 1: An iHeartRadio podcast. Hey guys, welcome back another episode of
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  Speaker 1: I'm All in Town meeting with myself, Tara and Susanne. Hello. Hello.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking about season four, episode one, Ballrooms and Viscatti,
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  Speaker 1: which aired on September twenty third, two thousand and three.
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  Speaker 2: There was a lot of action packed into this one.
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  Speaker 1: A lot, and I actually liked that we didn't jump
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  Speaker 1: into like Yale yet, Like we kind of did, but
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  Speaker 1: not really.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like they talk about it, but we're not there yet.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it would have been It would have been too
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  Speaker 2: abrupt to just open at Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I like that they eased us back into the season
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  Speaker 1: with basically.
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  Speaker 3: All stars hollow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like last episode like very town centric,
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  Speaker 1: Like last time we had a town meeting. This when
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  Speaker 1: we have the ice cream Queen open soda shop opening.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, so the soda shop was supposed
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  Speaker 2: to open earlier and it got postponed because of friend's
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  Speaker 2: death funeral, but they postponed it like a really long time.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I wonder if they were waiting for Rory to
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  Speaker 1: get back to be named the ice Cream Queen without
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  Speaker 1: her approval, which, by the way, I thought it was
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  Speaker 1: like At first, I was like, why is she so pissed?
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  Speaker 1: But then I was like, if I'm dealing with the
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  Speaker 1: thousand things and then someone expects something from me, I'd
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  Speaker 1: be pissed too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, especially if they didn't tell you they were expecting
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  Speaker 2: something from you. They were just putting posters all over.
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  Speaker 1: Like passive aggressive comments during the like the like speech
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  Speaker 1: or like the grand opening up and she's just standing
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  Speaker 1: there and he's like staring at her sitting and I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: so funny. Yeah, I do have a really big bone
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  Speaker 1: to pick for this episode.
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  Speaker 2: Go for it.
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  Speaker 1: This is so like it's a random bone to pick.
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  Speaker 1: They bought four hundred gifts for everyone. Yes, why couldn't
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  Speaker 1: they give one of the gifts from Europe to Luke
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  Speaker 1: and then give someone else the jam.
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  Speaker 2: That's a good question unless they had already distributed it.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't though, Okay, they realized as they were distributing
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  Speaker 1: that they forgot Luke right, or they were in the
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  Speaker 1: process of.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. Because they were talking about how they
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  Speaker 2: were going to start at one end of town and
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  Speaker 2: work their way around, So.
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  Speaker 1: Why couldn't like, why couldn't Luke get the damn rosary
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  Speaker 1: or something?
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? That's true.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, you guys, you have a thousand
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  Speaker 1: gifts you brought apparently in your in your backpack, which
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  Speaker 1: also made no sense to me. Like they're like, we
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  Speaker 1: bought gifts for the whole town, and they were naming
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  Speaker 1: people in the town who I'm like, who's that?
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  Speaker 2: And how did they get all that home? Yeah? I
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  Speaker 2: was looking when they were putting name tags on things
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  Speaker 2: that I was trying to like one of them said Christine,
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  Speaker 2: and I think one of them said Amy, which I thought,
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  Speaker 2: you know, probably a cute little nod to Amy. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: all these rando's in the town got but.
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  Speaker 1: Amy's gifts couldn't go to Luke. Like it was one
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  Speaker 1: of those things.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, why are.
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  Speaker 1: We doing this? Like I understand it's funny, but I
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  Speaker 1: was also pissed off because I'm like, just switch a gift,
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  Speaker 1: no one's gonna know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's true.
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  Speaker 1: Well no, but didn't wait hold on, didn't Kirk get
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  Speaker 1: a gift?
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  Speaker 2: No he did not.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, he didn't get a gift because he was he
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  Speaker 3: was upset.
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  Speaker 1: That he didn't get fake.
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  Speaker 2: Jam, right, he was upset that he didn't get anything.
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  Speaker 2: And then Lorlay said, well, you know, so Lorlay said,
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  Speaker 2: we didn't get Luke anything either, and then Kirk said,
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  Speaker 2: I heard he got jam, but it was fake jam,
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  Speaker 2: and yeah. Then he was like, you know.
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  Speaker 1: That's but then, how okay, how did Christine get a
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  Speaker 1: gift but Kirk and Luke didn't get a gift?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess well they said for Luke
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  Speaker 2: that they were looking for the right thing, Like.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, I guess.
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  Speaker 1: But in that last moment of in the last moment
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  Speaker 1: of oh crap, just switch it anyway, That's why, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: in my bone, But.
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  Speaker 2: Then we wouldn't have had the funny scenes that we had.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, But that one did bug me because
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  Speaker 1: I was like, just because I think it bugged me
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  Speaker 1: because we didn't need the scene of them giving him jam,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was the funny banter scene though, like I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we're in season four now, so we're trying to get
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  Speaker 2: Luke and Loralai kind of together.
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  Speaker 1: It also I think led to I think it also
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  Speaker 1: led to like what we find out at the end.
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  Speaker 2: What did we find out at the end then he.
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  Speaker 1: Got married and divorced?
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Okay, that wasn't the end end I got confused.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, but yeah, towards the end, sorry, towards the end, yes,
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  Speaker 1: which also I guess another thing. Couldn't that have gotten
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  Speaker 1: an alment?
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  Speaker 2: That's what I was wondering too, Like why did it
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  Speaker 2: have to be a divorce? I don't Yeah, I've never
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  Speaker 2: needed the marriage, so I don't know what the rule are.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, you would.
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  Speaker 1: Think that they how many days do you need to
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  Speaker 1: basically have an ann Like.
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  Speaker 2: They realized it the next morning, so why.
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  Speaker 1: Or like when they got off the ship, which could
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  Speaker 1: have been like four days later?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, didn't Britney Spears get an annulment she married?
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  Speaker 2: Remember she married that guy in Vegas?
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  Speaker 1: But she basically got an molment the next day? Mmm?
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  Speaker 1: And also did they have to be on land? Like?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Like what are the I don't know. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what the annulment rules are.
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  Speaker 1: And I guess I also don't know the details of
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  Speaker 1: an annulment like as a whole, like is it basically.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna sound so stupid for asking this question.
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  Speaker 1: Is there like a grace period orhen you sign your papers,
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  Speaker 1: like if you pull if you pull out like last minute,
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  Speaker 1: like then you you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Like I feel like when you buy a car and
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  Speaker 2: they're like, okay, you have three days to change your mind.
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  Speaker 3: Can you really with a car?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, with the cot there's a there's a word for it.
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  Speaker 2: Get what the word is, but you can you can
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  Speaker 2: nullify the.
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  Speaker 1: Contract after that the one time, uh I because I
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  Speaker 1: always there. It's so funny. You're either a leasing car
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  Speaker 1: family or you're buying car family, and all my family's
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  Speaker 1: a leasing car family. I got my car and it
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  Speaker 1: was like the car that I've always wanted. I was
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  Speaker 1: so excited because I was paying for it myself, so excited.
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  Speaker 1: Four days, four or five days after I got the car,
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  Speaker 1: I'm driving on the freeway and a rock hits my
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  Speaker 1: windshield and the entire windshield shatters, like literally, it was
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  Speaker 1: like spider. I just started crying. Well one because I
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  Speaker 1: was like, holy shit, I'm gonna into sorry, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: get into a car accident.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's terrifle on the freeway. That's terrifying.
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  Speaker 1: And then I was like, what the heck do I do,
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  Speaker 1: and like they couldn't find they didn't have it, Like
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  Speaker 1: they basically couldn't exchange it because it like again, if
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  Speaker 1: it happened like on my way out, I think, like
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. So I basically had to get a
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  Speaker 1: replacement and the piece had to come from Europe and
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  Speaker 1: it took like six months. Oh my gosh, and I
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  Speaker 1: was so sad. So I guess like when you mentioned car,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I wish there was a grace period because
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  Speaker 1: I didn't have one. Jumping back into the annulments of it,
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  Speaker 1: all they were they were on a cruise in the States, right, Well.
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  Speaker 2: So there's a there's a conflict there. So in the
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  Speaker 2: last episode he told Lorelai and Rory that they were
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  Speaker 2: going to drive through Western Canada and then take a
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  Speaker 2: cruise to Alaska. But then in this episode where he's
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  Speaker 2: helping Lorelei pack the truck and he's talking about how
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  Speaker 2: he has luggage, he says, he just went on a
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  Speaker 2: seven country cruise. So which is it? We don't know,
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  Speaker 2: We don't know.
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  Speaker 1: That would make the divorce very different, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean right, because it were they in different country,
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  Speaker 2: were they in Alaska? Were they in international waters?
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  Speaker 1: I just realized when you when you take a cruise
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  Speaker 1: to Alaska. Now I'm I'm not a cruise person, but
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  Speaker 1: a lot of my friends are. And the Alaskan cruise
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  Speaker 1: usually starts from Vancouver. So if they got married and
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  Speaker 1: they were leaving Vancouver, would they have been married in Canada?
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  Speaker 2: Well, they got married on the boat because it was
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  Speaker 2: the ship's captain that married them. So we don't know where.
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  Speaker 1: The Depending on where you are in the waters, you're
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  Speaker 1: either in Canada or the United States.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it wasn't at the beginning of the cruise
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  Speaker 2: because he was talking about how much fun they were
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  Speaker 2: having in all the food, like it was after the
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  Speaker 2: cruise had started, so we don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Also, seven countries would have to be like a what
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  Speaker 1: like a fourteen day cruise? You would think, yeah, because
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  Speaker 1: you because I've done a set. Well, I've done one
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  Speaker 1: cruise in my life and that one cruise was seven
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  Speaker 1: days and we did like four three. Oh no, it
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  Speaker 1: was Caribbean.
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  Speaker 2: But see, and that was going to be my next
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  Speaker 2: point was even if they had gone to Alaska, how
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  Speaker 2: do you hit seven countries from Alaska? Right? Like we
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  Speaker 2: could just do Canada like a river cruise in Europe
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  Speaker 2: or something. Sure, but I don't know. It just it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't match. YEA, from the one episode to Thegether.
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  Speaker 1: My friend did a cruise from literally it was like
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  Speaker 1: New Zealand, Alaska, and then went all the way to
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  Speaker 1: Hawaii and then she move home from Hawaii. But it
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  Speaker 1: was like a twenty one day cruise. She literally like
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  Speaker 1: at one point she has service and she's like, I
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  Speaker 1: cannot wait to get off this boat. Like it was
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  Speaker 1: like a great concept at first, and then she's like
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  Speaker 1: absolutely not.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, now I am not a cruise person. I drive
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  Speaker 2: by the cruise ships all the time in San Pedro
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  Speaker 2: and yeah, they look gorgeous. But I'm like, I do
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  Speaker 2: not do boats.
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  Speaker 3: Have you done one before?
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  Speaker 2: No? Oh see, I've done the boat to Catalina and
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  Speaker 2: that's it.
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  Speaker 3: The boat to Catalina that is half a minute.
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  Speaker 1: No, that is asking for to throw up, Like that
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  Speaker 1: is the nauseating boat ride I've ever been on. I've
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  Speaker 1: done a cruise once and we had literally the worst
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  Speaker 1: time ever. I was by the way, it was also
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  Speaker 1: a not very nice cruise line and I was like.
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  Speaker 2: I have different personalities.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was not a disney one. I will say
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  Speaker 1: that because I hear those are fun. But I had
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  Speaker 1: a terrible time, and so my friends are always like,
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  Speaker 1: let's do it a Disney cruise. I'm like, I feel
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  Speaker 1: like I'm a no cruise girl. And also the thought
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  Speaker 1: of being trapped in the middle of the ocean, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that long exactly. Also, have you seen Poop Cruise that's documentary?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, oh my gosh. Yeah no, no, I'm not ever
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  Speaker 2: doing a cruise.
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  Speaker 1: That's like actually my nightmare. Yeah, like I would rather
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  Speaker 1: stroll myself overboard.
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: I know if you if you are listening and you
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  Speaker 2: haven't watched Poop Cruise, you need you need to watch it,
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  Speaker 2: but don't like do it at dinner.
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  Speaker 1: Because no, it's like, by the way, it's only like
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  Speaker 1: a one hour documentary, like it's the shortest doccubent. It's
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  Speaker 1: not a.
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  Speaker 2: Huge commitment, but it's like it'll stay with you.
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  Speaker 1: For anyway, we derailed majorly today from from an annulment
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  Speaker 1: to poop Cruise. Anyway, but yeah, I didn't realize we
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  Speaker 1: don't know where they went. And Jackie said she's having
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  Speaker 1: a really hard time finding details because it depends on state, right.
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  Speaker 2: Because I was thinking that too, like if they're residents
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  Speaker 2: of Connecticut. Does that have anything to do with it?
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  Speaker 2: Or is it only like where you physically got married.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know because I know like people who like
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: go and get married in like Hawaii, but I think
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  Speaker 1: that they have their marriage license from like the state
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  Speaker 1: they live in.
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  Speaker 3: Oh likely you can take it with you.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting, Yeah, but I don't know. I'm not married.
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  Speaker 2: If you're listening and you've had an annulment, tell us
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  Speaker 2: about it.
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  Speaker 1: How dount we sound right now? I'm not gonna lie
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  Speaker 1: to you. I was about to jump back into the episode,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, what else happened? Where are we?
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  Speaker 2: So I have I have a good mistake from the
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  Speaker 2: opening scene. It's a two for one. It's okay, it's
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  Speaker 2: two mistakes in one. So okay, so let me set
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  Speaker 2: the stage. So they come home. First of all, super
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  Speaker 2: shuttle remember super Shuttle? No, you don't remember super Shuttle?
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: Oh man, that makes me feel old. Okay, never mind.
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  Speaker 2: They come home and the remember the airport vans like
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  Speaker 2: they still have that. Not No, super shuttle is gone.
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  Speaker 2: Like where you'd ride with other people, like you'd go
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  Speaker 2: pick people up and then you'd all go to the
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  Speaker 2: airport together.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen Oh oh okay, I I didn't know that's
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  Speaker 1: what it was called. I do know that. But there's
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  Speaker 1: also oh, I guess it's different. There is like lots
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  Speaker 1: you can park at and everyone takes a shuttle to
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  Speaker 1: the airport.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's different.
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  Speaker 1: No, super shuttle was when they came to your house.
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  Speaker 3: I do remember, Okay, we.
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  Speaker 2: Come pick you up at your house and then they'd
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  Speaker 2: go to the next person's house and pick the next person.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely not. I think we did it. I think
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  Speaker 1: we did it once, but we went with my family
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  Speaker 1: and so there it was only two stops because there
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  Speaker 1: was such a big group. So that was it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we we've done that. We used to have to
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  Speaker 2: do it because this was like way before uber and lyft.
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  Speaker 2: So if you didn't want to leave your car at
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  Speaker 2: the airport and your friends couldn't take you, you had
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  Speaker 2: to Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Well there's a taxi.
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  Speaker 2: Super shuttle was like fifteen bucks a person.
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  Speaker 3: It was yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, those were the days. So anyways, but that
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  Speaker 2: has nothing to do with what I'm about to say.
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  Speaker 2: So they so that that comes and they all go
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  Speaker 2: in the house and yeah, he's like making hot chocolate
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  Speaker 2: or whatever. So they're sitting at the table and when
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  Speaker 2: Laura I makes the she makes like the yawning motion
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: to Rory, like as a queue that has to be tired.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And so.
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: When when the camera's on Louren and she's doing the
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  Speaker 2: yawn thing, there is a grocery bag over her shoulder
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  Speaker 2: that was not there throughout the entire rest of the scene.
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: Oh funny, there's like a grocery bag just randomly shows up.
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: So that's the first part of the mistake. Bonus part
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  Speaker 2: of the mistake is that it was a Vaughn's bag.
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  Speaker 1: No way, and they do.
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  Speaker 2: Hollow.
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  Speaker 1: There's no Vonns on the East coast either, And.
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  Speaker 2: I looked just to confirm. I looked on the Vaughn's website.
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  Speaker 2: They have like one hundred it's like one hundred and
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: seventy seven stores in California and then eight in Las Vegas.
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: And that's yeah, not outside California except for Vegas.
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  Speaker 1: Because I was talking to someone once like when I
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: was when I was like younger, I didn't realize that
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  Speaker 1: like Ralph's and Vons are not like nationwide like they
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: because there's like Safeway right right stay, Like I know,
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: like there's safe ways. And then there's the one my
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: friend talks about that she like their sandwiches in Florida
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  Speaker 1: and I'm blanking on the name, but like, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't realize it, but there was no Vons in Connecticut,
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  Speaker 1: let alone and stars hollow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so rewatched that scene because there's no And then
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  Speaker 2: when she does the yawning thing, there is suddenly a
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  Speaker 2: Vaughn's bag sitting behind her on the table.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder why that moment, Like, I wonder if they
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: have to come back and like redo that one part.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's a hot set, Like why would you
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  Speaker 2: set a bag there.
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  Speaker 1: Unless it was like in rehearsal and they were filming
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  Speaker 1: it and they used it.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: You know, Oh maybe yeah that could be.
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  Speaker 1: We'll never know to be honest exactly.
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  Speaker 2: So I have another speaking of bones to pick. I
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: want to talk about and.
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  Speaker 3: To really ripping this episode apart.
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  Speaker 1: I like that though.
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  Speaker 2: There's a ton of mistakes in this episode. I haven't
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: even barely started, okay, but I want I, like I
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: alluded to in the in our last episode, I want
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: to talk about how long we think they were in Europe.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, they apparently leave after graduation and come back when
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: she may Yes, well.
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  Speaker 3: Technically it could have been June.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: Well, the episode aired in May, so I just was going.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, well, I was like, my high school graduation was
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: in June, was too, So let's hypothetically say June. Yeah,
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: and then I would say that she's moving in at
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: the end of or mid August.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: So they were gone for about let's say two months.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: So that's that's what it feels like, especially because Suki
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: wasn't really showing when they left, and when they come back,
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: she's like, yes, yes, pregnant, and Luke says when he
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: left them at the graduation, he says, i'll see you
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: in a few months. H But Emily asked them when
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: they were coming back, and Laurel I says, we'll be
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: back on the.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: Twenty seventh of August, which seems.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: Late to get to Yale.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: You know, I will say, I don't know about schools
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: on the East Coast, let alone Yale, but if I'm
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: thinking about in California. It also is based on if
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: you're on a semester or a quarter system. Yes, So
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: like for me, I went to cal State Northridge and
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: we were semesters, so I always started the end of August.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: My friends who went to UCLA, they are a quarter system,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: and they always would start after a labor day because
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: you went to UCLA, right, Yeah, when.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: I went to UCLA, we started at the end of September.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: I very clearly remember when I was a freshman. My
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: first day of school was September twenty eighth.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: I was like that, Wait, I I was one month
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: in yeah, like by that point.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: So, but it seemed but Yale, we know Yale is semesters,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: because okay, that's true, talk about it. But so the
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: twenty seventh, like August twenty seventh would be too late.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Wait, but is August twenty seventh the day they were
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: supposed to come back. Then they come back a week late.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: So she came back September like fifth or whatever.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: I think they only came back like two days late.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, god, something like that kind of it's kind
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: of makes sense.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Well, but if they come back, if they come back
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: to twenty seventh, and they were like a day or
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: two late, let's say we do so it's August twenty
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: seventh is too late. Yeah, but then they have to
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: be at Yale like two days later. So if it
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: was July twenty seventh.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: And she doesn't have her classes yet or anything, right.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: But so they if because we know it's not August
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: twenty seventh, So if it was July twenty seventh, then
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: that's way too early to be going to Yale. If
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: they had to be there two days later, like they
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: wouldn't have them moving in this So I don't know.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: I also wonder why twenty seventh because the episode aired
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: on September twenty thirty, so it was a like numbers thing.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, good point. Okay, don't they register freshmen usually like
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: at orientation, Like that's when you go meet with your
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: counselor and stuff.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: I mean I have no, I don't remember.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know. That's how we did it, and I
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: know that's how my son did it too, when he
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: went to college a couple of years ago.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: No, mine was fifteen years ago at R but I
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: I will that takes me back to the paris of
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: it all. In June.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: She wouldn't have known if she was going to Yale.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you you would think what is it.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Called when you're like when you don't get in I
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: mean not waitlisted, but like, isn't there a way where
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: like you could maybe get in even if you were denied, Like,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: isn't there something deferred?
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: Thank you?
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Over the word? Could she have been deferred?
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Well, but isn't deferred like you would start the next semester?
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: I never like she'd be starting in January.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: I never looked into it because I didn't have to
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: deal with.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: It, I know. So anyway, it's a mystery.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Honestly, I could talk about this for a long time, but.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, if Laurla hadn't said
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: they would be back on the twenty seventh, then it
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: would all make perfect sense. Yeah, but it's just that
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: that date is throwing me off.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, if they just she didn't need she could
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: have said like, oh we came back Wednesday, you know,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: it would have changed everything.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, why twenty seventh?
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Someone wants to throw a date in there.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, they probably just picked a date and
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: figured that nobody was gonna be picking it apart like
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: I am. There was a clown pillow. Did you see
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: the clown pillow?
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Twice? Right, there's two two? Uh? Was it?
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: I only saw it once? When they were like kind
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: of arranging the souvenirs.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: And there was a second time. I just don't remember where.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: I just remember noting I saw it twice.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: I missed it, darn it.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I did see it. It was actually like full display.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: So Jackson doesn't want to know.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was I thought the I thought the
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: button was kind of funny.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie the.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: So there the button. Okay, can we talk about the button?
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: So did you notice in the scene where are talking
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: about the button and Rory is sitting on the couch
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: next to Jackson. One of the shots, you can see
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: she's already wearing the button and he hasn't even handed
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: it to her yet.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't notice that.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: You can just see like the very like edge of
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: her shoulder. It's like you can't you have to look hard.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: It was like take seventy five at that rate. I'm sure. Yeah.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: And then another thing that I have no explanation for
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: is that the button itself changed. So when she's talking
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: no the words, oh so when she's talking to Taylor
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: in the soda shop, her button says, I do not
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: want to know the sex of my baby. But then
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: when she walks back to Laurelized house and now all
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: of a sudden, the button says, I don't want to know,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Like it's a completely different button. I don't know why
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: that would have mattered.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Maybe there were multiples per per day, per outfit, but
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was kind of I don't know,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: it's kind of old fashioned that Jackson wasn't gonna.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: I actually know. I actually know a couple of people
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: who like to this day, still don't want it. I
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: want to know the sex, and they buy like neutral
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: colors like beige's and yellows.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: I'm just supprised he didn't.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: He wasn't gonna be in the delivery room with I
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: also find it really interesting that Jackson has a lot
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: to say about everything. Yes, you know what I mean,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: there's just so many opinions.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: He does well, and when they first get there he
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: rushes out. He's like, don't squish baby. It's like, you know, dude,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: just shut up.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: He kind of bugs I'm not gonna lie.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was kind of annoying about the whole thing.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Also, complete sidebar. I have to text you, guys. I
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: just looked over my dog to see what he's doing,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: and he is just got.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: I'm seeing these pictures that you're taking.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: It's just because it's so funny. I'm so sorry. I
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: have to just like derail for two seconds because he's
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: like sitting on my pillows and he has a neck
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: pillow because he just got neutered, and it just is
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: so funny the way he's sitting. I just texted it
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: to you guys because I was like, I can't. You're
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: gonna be like, what the hell are you doing? But
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: there was a reason because it was so funny. He
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: looks like he's just in a pile of pillows that
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: good stuff, laughing at it. Anyway. Sorry, Okay, we're gonna
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: have to.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Post these on Instagram now so everybody else can share
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: the blurty.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: We're just kind out man.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: We are really just unhinged this episode.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: And then did you see the hand, the mysterious hand?
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: So when when Suki and what's her what's her name? Lauralai?
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, how did I forget her name? When
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: they're walking out to the shed where Suki's hiding all
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: the baby stuff and she opens the door, you can
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: see like some crew member's hand reaches out to grab
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: the door, like, so it doesn't shot a flam. Yeah,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: so you see like this mysterious hand reaching.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: I feel like I don't know why I miss a
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: lot of those. I'm surprised that's all the shadow in
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: the last episode, but I'm usually just oblivious to it.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, you know, it gets to the point where
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: you've heard the dialogue so many times, you're just looking
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: at everything else that's happening in that square.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: You're right, there are some episodes that we've watched from
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I've seen this a million times. I already
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: know what's happening. I'm just looking around.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's how we noticed the the mic
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: in the last episode. Like I had never seen it before.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: It just this was the first time I had known.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Sorry to bring up the last episode. There was something
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: I forgot to bring up, which was the Dean conversation.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Mmmm, okay about the wedding gift.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to know your thoughts.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it was because they had
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: ended on bad terms before when he told her that
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: he was getting married and then he didn't like her reaction.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: I have a nice live and he you know, goes
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: and stomps off. So I thought it was kind of
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: a they were trying to just mend that ridge.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: It was a little awkward, But that's see, that's what
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: I thought. I thought it was awkward. I was like, yeah,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: it just felt like it could have been like a,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: I think she really went out of her way, and
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: so I was like, yeah.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: I mean I think it was supposed to be awkward
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: because they had ended on a bad note before, and
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: so she wasn't sure like how he was going to
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: react to her. I guess, wait, is it was a
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: nice gesture?
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Is what happens at the end of season four? Season five?
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: No, it's the end of four because it's when the
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Dragonfly opens. That's right, because that's when Luke and Laurel I.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Have that right.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, So back to fallow the.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Rest of the show.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: One thing that bothers me about Rory in this episode
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: is how she totally throws Larela I under the bus
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: to Emily.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, why couldn't she just tell the true exactly?
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Like, why couldn't she just say, oh, I wrote the
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: date down wrong. And so she's just helping me finish
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: up some stuff. She doesn't. She doesn't take the accountability
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: for her mistake, and she just lets Emily think that
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Laura I doesn't want to come, which wasn't. I mean, well,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Laura didn't want to come, so that was true. But
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Emily gets mad at Laurel I over it and it
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: was Rory's mistake, but Rory's just like, I'm not gonna
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: say a word about it.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It also could have been like I messed up
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: the date. I didn't want to miss dinner, so Mom's
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: helping me out. And also in the last episode, the
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: agreement was that Rory will be yet Friday night dinner
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: every friend, right, so she kept her promise, so she
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: could have been like, I kept my promise.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so mom's helping me out tonight.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, we'll be here next week.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: And Emily shouldn't necessarily have been expecting Laura I.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: And then she gets so mad at her.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah I know, and she was I don't know, she
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: just was and vindictive about the whole thing, like how
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: she totally dragged that meal out, and then she's like,
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: let's watch thirty years worth of ballroom dancing, Like, I
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: don't know. Emily was just mean in this up. I mean,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: she's mean in all the episodes, but yeah, this was
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: just above and beyond, and it just bothered me that
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: the whole thing happened because it was Rory's fault. Like it,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: she just couldn't admit to her grandmother that she had
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: made a mistake, and so she just totally let Laura
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: I take the fall, which.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't like that.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Speaking of the ballroom part, did you know that a
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: real life reference was made? Yes, this is like a
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: deep cut if you heard are actually if we did
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: this obviously we've watched these episodes before. You can go
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: back to the episode of this recap. So, Corky and
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Shirley Ballas are two of like the most famous ballroom dancers.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Their son, Mark is Mark Ballas, who is on Dancing
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: with the Stars, and so they were referencing his parents.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: But what was really interesting is didn't she mentioned She's like, oh,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: their son, but his name is I literally had to
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: google his name and I'm like, his name is Mark Ballas.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Because they called him quirky this, yes, yes.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: And so then I was like, is Mark's real name quirky?
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Like I literally googled it and I was like, it's not,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: it's just Mark. So And also Mark right now is
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: on Broadway in Chicago.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: So and he came, Yeah, he came on the podcast.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: I actually I've known Mark for a very long time.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to go to New York to see him,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: and he's him and his wife are just like the
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: nicest people ever.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: Literally, when I broke my ankle, he's on Instagram.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: He's texting me.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: He's like, are you okay?
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Do you need anything? And I'm like, Hi, No, I'm good.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: But they're just they're just great people. But yeah, I
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: actually was about to ask him. I'm like, was your
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: real name quirky? And we didn't know, but maybe I'll
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: ask him later.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Well, be sure to let us know if you do
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: ever get the chance.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe if I go to see him on Broadway
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: in Chicago, I'll ask him and report back. Yeah, Like,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: why why were you a quirky ballast junior on the
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls? Also, what a like obscure reference to have,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Like like it's just be like, oh, my family was
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: mentioned on Gilmore Girls, Like it was just so like
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: someone must have been a fan of ballroom dancing.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well I know Amy was a dancer. Just I
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: don't know. I think she did ballet more than ballroom.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: So Shirley is also like, you know, Sureley, his mom
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: is basically who created the concept of Dancing with the stars.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: So yeah, so it started in Europe, but like Shirley
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: basically created dancing with the stars.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Oh that's cool. I didn't know that.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: It was kind of a funny thing when the two
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: of them at the end though, we are just watching
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: ballroom critiquing it, like.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Emily's asleep in the chair.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: It looks so uncomfortable in that position too.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but she, you know, she was bound to
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: determine that she was going to be there, so yeah,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: she'll sleep uncomfortably just to keep them from having an
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: evening alone.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: The other thing about Rory is, even though she obviously
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: was caught in this live, she didn't tell the truth.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: She could have said something at the end like she
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: just has no backbone with Emily. Yeah, agreed, And then
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Laurel is.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: A complete opposite and Lorelai will just say whatever the
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: hell she.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Wants, right, So yeah, two very different sides of the
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: coin there.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, do you have anything else this episode? I really
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: enjoyed this one.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought this was a good episode two. It's
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: like getting the excitement going because now you're dying to
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: see what Yale's going to be like. Yeah, so you're
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: definitely tuning in for the next episode. So yeah, I
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: thought it was good.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: All right, till next week, we're gonna be talking about
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: season four, episode two, The Laureles first day at Yale.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: We'll see you there meeting adjourned. Hey everybody, and don't
• 31:23
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• 31:27
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