Latest / UK Column Radio / UK Column News — 21st August 2026
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- 0:08Speaker 1: Good afternoon. Today is Friday, the twenty first of August
- 0:12Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, just after one o'clock. Welcome to UK
- 0:15Speaker 1: column News. I'm your host, Brian Gerrish. Delighted to have
- 0:18Speaker 1: Basil Valentine with me in the studio. Basil, welcome, quesse Brian,
- 0:22Speaker 1: great to be here. It's great to be here. So
- 0:24Speaker 1: a different combination for our audience to enjoy, never seen before. Indeed,
- 0:31Speaker 1: now we have got a pretty packed news today. There
- 0:36Speaker 1: are so many things happening in UK. We've decided that
- 0:39Speaker 1: the Hillsborough Report is of particular interest because effectively we've
- 0:45Speaker 1: got the government trying to reassure the Hillsborough families that
- 0:50Speaker 1: they're going to change their spots and start telling the
- 0:52Speaker 1: truth and be transparent. So we'll be taking a little
- 0:56Speaker 1: bit of a look at that. We're also coupled with
- 0:59Speaker 1: that being having a look at Labour's really track record
- 1:04Speaker 1: and view on information and freedom of information. And I
- 1:09Speaker 1: have to give our audience a warning that will include
- 1:13Speaker 1: pictures of Tony Blair, so if you're a weak disposition,
- 1:17Speaker 1: please turn away. We're going to follow up on asylum,
- 1:21Speaker 1: which of course is such a major issue, but particularly
- 1:23Speaker 1: with the crazy guidance that recently come out about rape
- 1:27Speaker 1: and who you can touch and who you need to
- 1:29Speaker 1: get consent from before you take action in an inappropriate direction.
- 1:36Speaker 1: We're going to be looking at the clampdown on Palestine
- 1:39Speaker 1: action and this is all part of really the government's
- 1:42Speaker 1: clamp down on free speech. We're delighted to have a
- 1:45Speaker 1: guest with us today, that's Peter Ford, former UK Ambassador
- 1:50Speaker 1: to Syria. That will be a very interesting discussion and
- 1:54Speaker 1: we'll leave you with a little bit of suspense in
- 1:56Speaker 1: that and Buzz, you're going to be ending with you
- 2:00Speaker 1: missed it?
- 2:01Speaker 2: So yes, that's right, the entertaining stories from the news
- 2:07Speaker 2: screed of the week that people may have missed, and
- 2:10Speaker 2: it ends with it's worth staying at the end of
- 2:12Speaker 2: the program today because the last sliding in case you
- 2:15Speaker 2: missed it might and finally had our researcher Jimma Cooper
- 2:20Speaker 2: laughing out loud as indeed had you Branton, which is
- 2:22Speaker 2: a good end for Friday exactly. So we end on
- 2:25Speaker 2: a very funny note today.
- 2:27Speaker 1: Okay, well, let's kick off with Hillsborough and thank thank
- 2:30Speaker 1: you Basil for picking up on this one. So here's
- 2:33Speaker 1: the headline it's from the classified but it says can
- 2:37Speaker 1: Andy Burnham make MI I five respect the Hillsborough Law.
- 2:43Speaker 1: And if you are curious as to what this is about,
- 2:47Speaker 1: well it's all off the back of the Hillsborough disaster
- 2:50Speaker 1: from nineteen eighty nine, when some ninety seven people died
- 2:55Speaker 1: as a result of a crush really in the football stadium,
- 3:00Speaker 1: Hillsborough Stadium in Sheffield, and of course in the events
- 3:05Speaker 1: that followed, the key factor was that the police lied
- 3:10Speaker 1: about what had taken place. They attempted to blame the fans,
- 3:13Speaker 1: and it was only later in the twenty sixteen Hillsborough
- 3:18Speaker 1: in Quest where they concluded that this hadn't been as
- 3:23Speaker 1: a result of a failure by the fans, and so
- 3:26Speaker 1: the emphasis of failure was put back on the state
- 3:30Speaker 1: and in particular the police. But I think we can
- 3:34Speaker 1: say basil that as that horrible event took place and
- 3:40Speaker 1: we saw how not only the police but the government behaved,
- 3:43Speaker 1: it was clear to us that we were not living
- 3:46Speaker 1: in any sort of democracy where the government was going
- 3:48Speaker 1: to be telling the truth. Now I just bring up
- 3:52Speaker 1: on screen this is part of a sort of explanatory
- 3:57Speaker 1: document about what the the Hillsborough Bill effectively will do so.
- 4:04Speaker 1: It's talking about a duty of candor. It's talking about
- 4:07Speaker 1: parity of arms in coroner's investigation, public inquiries, legal aid,
- 4:14Speaker 1: expanding legal aid, it's talking about misconduct in public office,
- 4:19Speaker 1: legal background, and then the extent and application. So this
- 4:24Speaker 1: is only just a brief summary here for the UK
- 4:27Speaker 1: column viewers, but you can see that there's quite a
- 4:30Speaker 1: lot that they're talking about. And I think there's about
- 4:34Speaker 1: seventy odd ages of this altogether, so apparently they're going
- 4:40Speaker 1: to change their spots. Basle is this well.
- 4:43Speaker 2: On the face of it, this is a positive piece
- 4:46Speaker 2: of legislation. It aims to improve transparency among public officials,
- 4:54Speaker 2: particularly with respect to major events. It's called the Public
- 4:59Speaker 2: Office Accountability Bill. The Commons passed in July. Itx expected
- 5:03Speaker 2: to go through the Lords in September. The key elements
- 5:10Speaker 2: include whether or not I five and six officers will
- 5:15Speaker 2: be required to tell the truth about so called deep events,
- 5:20Speaker 2: and indeed this delayed the passage of the bill. When
- 5:22Speaker 2: seeing it, five and six officers insisted that it shouldn't
- 5:26Speaker 2: apply to them. Within their view, disclosures would damage quotes
- 5:30Speaker 2: national security.
- 5:31Speaker 3: That old one again. Brian A.
- 5:33Speaker 2: Compromise has finally been reached, whereby an intelligence officer will
- 5:37Speaker 2: be protected from revealing the truth if that means breaching
- 5:41Speaker 2: the official secret sect. So theoretically, at least, yes, this
- 5:45Speaker 2: will mean greater accountability, greater transparency from public officials with
- 5:50Speaker 2: respect to major events. Of course, it's unlikely we're going
- 5:54Speaker 2: to see it retrospectively applied to things like seven to
- 5:57Speaker 2: seven Brian, where, of course, disgracefully we never had a
- 6:00Speaker 2: public inquiry into the Beginningy COVID really exactly, So, inasmuch
- 6:07Speaker 2: as it goes as far as it does, it is
- 6:10Speaker 2: to be welcomed. But as you're about to say, the
- 6:13Speaker 2: best thing Tony bled was bringing the Freedom of Information Act,
- 6:17Speaker 2: something he now regrets. So it rains to be seen
- 6:20Speaker 2: the extent to which this legislation is actually used for
- 6:24Speaker 2: the benefit of the general public, because it might just
- 6:27Speaker 2: turn out to be window dressing.
- 6:29Speaker 1: Or propaganda, possibly fazzil. Thank you for that. I just
- 6:32Speaker 1: wanted to add that, of course, we need to remember
- 6:35Speaker 1: the COVIT Human Intelligence Sources Criminal Conduct Act of twenty
- 6:40Speaker 1: twenty one, in which the government passed a law giving
- 6:45Speaker 1: it and its agents the ability to break the law
- 6:48Speaker 1: at will. So my feeling was from the passage, the
- 6:53Speaker 1: date of the passage of that particular bill onwards, we
- 6:56Speaker 1: were living in a lawless state where the government really
- 7:00Speaker 1: might obey the lawa it might not so consider Hillsborough
- 7:04Speaker 1: on the back of that. But let's move on through.
- 7:07Speaker 1: And I just want to remind people that a little
- 7:09Speaker 1: while ago I did an interview with a remarkable man,
- 7:13Speaker 1: Martin Brighton. He was talking about corruption within labor administrations,
- 7:18Speaker 1: in particular in cities across UK, with a focus on Sheffield.
- 7:23Speaker 1: And so really this was about labor denial and cover ups, fraud,
- 7:28Speaker 1: corruption with and alongside common purpose And why is this
- 7:34Speaker 1: so important to remember this? Well, of course labor is
- 7:36Speaker 1: now saying, via the Hillsborough Bill, they're going to be
- 7:40Speaker 1: telling the truth from here on. Well, Martin Brighton has
- 7:45Speaker 1: been working over a great many years to ask some
- 7:47Speaker 1: simple questions, including one of Keir Starmer. And in this one,
- 7:54Speaker 1: this little excerpt, he says, I've written to you, Keir Starmer,
- 7:58Speaker 1: via your various contacts and offices, since the twenty ninth
- 8:04Speaker 1: of December twenty twenty five concerning your alleged cover up
- 8:07Speaker 1: of child's exploitation and to date you have failed to respond.
- 8:12Speaker 1: So we're getting a full example here of how the
- 8:15Speaker 1: government at the highest level responds when it's asked to
- 8:19Speaker 1: reveal information which could be incriminating, and the result is silence.
- 8:24Speaker 1: But in this particular case, there was one particular letter
- 8:28Speaker 1: of considerable importance and this had come from the Police
- 8:32Speaker 1: and Crime Commissioner and it was on the subject of
- 8:36Speaker 1: Cyril Smith. So this was asking questions about the Cyril
- 8:42Speaker 1: Smith affair of Keir Starmer. So this letter did not
- 8:48Speaker 1: get a reply. So we're back to twenty twelve and
- 8:52Speaker 1: we're into a complete mier. So let's expand this on screen.
- 8:56Speaker 1: And what did the letter from the Police Commissioner say.
- 9:02Speaker 1: Dear mister Stalmer, I refer to my recent comments regarding
- 9:05Speaker 1: Cyril Smith and the lack of transparency as to why
- 9:09Speaker 1: he was not prosecuted in nineteen seventy for child abuse charges.
- 9:14Speaker 1: I would like from yourself on behalf of the public
- 9:16Speaker 1: in Greater Manchester a detailed explanation as to why Cyril
- 9:20Speaker 1: Smith was not prosecuted despite there being an eighty page
- 9:24Speaker 1: file of police evidence supporting these allegations. It went on
- 9:29Speaker 1: to say that I understand there's been substantive changes, the
- 9:33Speaker 1: means of prosecution, etc. All of this needs clarification and
- 9:39Speaker 1: finally down here I therefore ask that you complete a
- 9:43Speaker 1: thorough investigation as to what went wrong. And whilst it's
- 9:47Speaker 1: too late to really do anything for the victims, we
- 9:50Speaker 1: can at least reassure them this will never happen again.
- 9:53Speaker 1: So this is the heart of the government being asked
- 9:56Speaker 1: about a very serious, serious matter, which is the abuse children.
- 10:01Speaker 1: And the topic is this labor denial and the continuum
- 10:05Speaker 1: covered up around Cyril Smith. Well, eventually Martin Brighton had
- 10:11Speaker 1: to write to Ellie Reeves MP asking if she could
- 10:15Speaker 1: provide the reply that had been sent to the request
- 10:20Speaker 1: of the late Tony Lloyd. That's the letter we've just
- 10:23Speaker 1: shown and of course nothing really happened. And then the
- 10:27Speaker 1: whole thing goes through to the labor complaints procedure and
- 10:33Speaker 1: what is the language used. Well, thank you very much.
- 10:37Speaker 1: You now need to make a complaint and we can
- 10:40Speaker 1: actually manage this complaint through our website so that it
- 10:45Speaker 1: goes essentially into the long grass and the language goes on.
- 10:51Speaker 1: If the conduct behavior complaining about wasn't directed you specifically,
- 10:55Speaker 1: you're unlikely to hear anything further after you've submitted your complaint.
- 11:00Speaker 1: So it's a self policing and cover up organization. And
- 11:04Speaker 1: of course this is the very organization, the Labor Administration,
- 11:08Speaker 1: which has spawned Alie Burnham. Can we expect transparency? We
- 11:13Speaker 1: think not. But you gave a little bit of a
- 11:16Speaker 1: spoiler at their buzzle. So let's put Tony Blair on
- 11:20Speaker 1: screen and what is the subject. Well, we're going way back.
- 11:25Speaker 1: We're fifteen years We're going back to a Guardian interview
- 11:29Speaker 1: with Tony Blair and this was back on the subject
- 11:33Speaker 1: of labor denial and cover ups, fraud, corruption, common Purpose
- 11:37Speaker 1: and the Freedom of Information Act. Now let's have a
- 11:41Speaker 1: look at what Tony Blair said to the Guardian. He said,
- 11:44Speaker 1: freedom of information. I'm slightly tongue in cheek about it.
- 11:49Speaker 1: He went on with a bit more. I beg your pardon.
- 11:52Speaker 1: Let's just come back here. It seemed to have lost
- 11:55Speaker 1: that one. Let's just bring this through on the screen again.
- 12:00Speaker 1: When it comes to the working of government at the
- 12:02Speaker 1: highest level, you've got to be able to have a
- 12:04Speaker 1: completely frank conversation in cabinet committees between civil servants and
- 12:09Speaker 1: their ministers, where things can be reduced to writing and analyzed.
- 12:14Speaker 1: And he further went on to say, whether you're in
- 12:17Speaker 1: business or in running a newspaper, there are conversations that
- 12:20Speaker 1: you want to have preliminary to taking decisions that are
- 12:25Speaker 1: frank conversations. And if those conversations then are put out
- 12:29Speaker 1: in a published form that afterwards are liable to be
- 12:32Speaker 1: highlighted in particular ways, you're going to be very cautious.
- 12:36Speaker 1: What he was saying was he was feeling nervous about
- 12:40Speaker 1: the Freedom of Informatation Act, but when he was talking
- 12:43Speaker 1: to the Guardian he seemed to have forgot that he
- 12:46Speaker 1: wasn't actually running a business or a newspaper. He was
- 12:50Speaker 1: supposed to be heading an accountable government. But as far
- 12:53Speaker 1: as that Guardian report, Tony Blair mealy mouth but said yes,
- 12:59Speaker 1: the freedom of him was a little bit of a problem.
- 13:02Speaker 1: Contrast what the Guardian reported with what Tony Blair had
- 13:05Speaker 1: to say in his own autobiography. Let's just call a
- 13:09Speaker 1: bit up on screen freedom of information. Three harmless words.
- 13:13Speaker 1: I look at these words as I write them and
- 13:16Speaker 1: feel like shaking my head till it drops off my shoulders.
- 13:21Speaker 1: He goes on to say, you idiot, you naive, foolish,
- 13:25Speaker 1: irresponsible income boot will give him a tick for that,
- 13:28Speaker 1: because clearly he's describing himself accurately. But this is where
- 13:33Speaker 1: it gets very interesting. There's really no description of stupidity,
- 13:38Speaker 1: no matter how vivid that is adequate. I quake at
- 13:41Speaker 1: the embecility of it. So Tony Blair quakes at the
- 13:45Speaker 1: thought of what truth should and could have come to
- 13:49Speaker 1: the surface during his reign, and he realized that as
- 13:53Speaker 1: far as covering up the truth of Freedom of Information
- 13:56Speaker 1: Act was a huge mistake. But the reality is that
- 14:00Speaker 1: at present that it's a controlling influence as well. So
- 14:06Speaker 1: I'll just bring in that very quickly. In the Labor administration,
- 14:10Speaker 1: if that was the lack of transparency under Blair one
- 14:13Speaker 1: point zero, we've now got Blair two point zero with
- 14:16Speaker 1: Andy Burnham and the intermediary somewhere between the two was
- 14:23Speaker 1: Keir Starmer, who we saw challenged over Cyril Smith at
- 14:27Speaker 1: the start of the news And basically it's three iterations,
- 14:31Speaker 1: but we're dealing with the same labor lies. And what
- 14:35Speaker 1: has happened to mister Martin Brightens as a result of
- 14:39Speaker 1: his questioned well his home was broken into by South
- 14:42Speaker 1: Yorkshire Police and all of his evidence of the cover
- 14:46Speaker 1: up child abuse was taken, all of his electronic devices taken,
- 14:51Speaker 1: thirty years of work gone, so I think was that
- 14:57Speaker 1: that was coming up to a year ago now and
- 15:00Speaker 1: none of that material has been returned. So we have
- 15:03Speaker 1: a law which says the police amongst other government agents
- 15:07Speaker 1: can break the law out their discretion, and we have
- 15:10Speaker 1: the stealing of evidence in order to help cover up
- 15:13Speaker 1: child of views. It's pretty apparent that we're in a
- 15:16Speaker 1: lawless society, bus all.
- 15:19Speaker 3: I think.
- 15:20Speaker 2: Speaking of lawless societies, Bran, some new guidance has been
- 15:26Speaker 2: issued by our esteemed government for asylum seekers and how
- 15:32Speaker 2: they should behave. It's entitled Understanding Behaviors and Expectations in
- 15:36Speaker 2: the UK and Guide for asylum Seekers. Well, so far,
- 15:41Speaker 2: so good, and it goes on living in the UK.
- 15:50Speaker 2: You are in the United Kingdom UK because you are
- 15:52Speaker 2: seeking asylum. We understand that coming to a new country
- 15:55Speaker 2: can be difficult and that laws and customs here may
- 15:59Speaker 2: be different from your home country. Okay. Gender equality in
- 16:11Speaker 2: the UK, men and women have equal rights. This is
- 16:13Speaker 2: an important part of UK culture and is protected by law.
- 16:17Speaker 2: Women can work and earn their own money, studying and
- 16:20Speaker 2: go to university, travel freely, choose who they marry or
- 16:23Speaker 2: not to marry, make their own decisions about their lives.
- 16:26Speaker 2: Women do not need permission from a husband, father, or
- 16:28Speaker 2: brother or any other man to do any of these things.
- 16:31Speaker 2: Men and women are treated equally by the law, by employers,
- 16:34Speaker 2: by schools, and by services like hospitals and the police.
- 16:37Speaker 2: It is against the law to treat someone fairly because
- 16:39Speaker 2: of their gender. This all obviously needs explaining, particularly with
- 16:46Speaker 2: respect to sex and consent. Consent means both people freely
- 16:50Speaker 2: agree to sex or sexual contact. In the UK, the
- 16:54Speaker 2: law is clear and strict. Both people mist to greet
- 16:56Speaker 2: to sex of any kind. This means both people must
- 16:59Speaker 2: say yes freely without any threat or pressure. Someone may
- 17:02Speaker 2: chase their mind at any time, even if they said
- 17:05Speaker 2: yes before. If someone is asleep, drunk, or unable to respond,
- 17:09Speaker 2: they cannot consent. If you have sex with someone without
- 17:13Speaker 2: their consent, this is called rape. Rape is a serious
- 17:16Speaker 2: crime in the UK. You could go to prison, Brian,
- 17:20Speaker 2: lose your support and accommodation, and it will affect your
- 17:24Speaker 2: asylum claim. What gets me there, of course, is the
- 17:27Speaker 2: use of the conditional You could go to prison. I
- 17:30Speaker 2: wonder if in their defense, an asylum seeker accused of
- 17:34Speaker 2: rape may point to this guidance and say, well, I
- 17:37Speaker 2: was only told I could go to.
- 17:39Speaker 1: Prison, so English is not my first language, I read
- 17:42Speaker 1: it and didn't understand it properly. That would be a
- 17:44Speaker 1: credible defense, I think exactly. So what is expected of
- 17:49Speaker 1: the asylum seeker.
- 17:50Speaker 2: You're expected to always make sure the other person freely
- 17:53Speaker 2: and clearly agrees to sexual sexual concept, Never use threat,
- 17:56Speaker 2: force or pressure.
- 17:57Speaker 3: Never time to have sex.
- 17:58Speaker 2: With someone who is just sleep drunk or unable to consent,
- 18:02Speaker 2: and stop if they say no or change their mind.
- 18:05Speaker 2: It all obviously needs to be spelled out, as does
- 18:08Speaker 2: the legal age of consent, which is sixteen. Of course, again,
- 18:13Speaker 2: sex with someone under the age of sixteen is a
- 18:16Speaker 2: serious crime in the UK.
- 18:18Speaker 3: There are no exceptions to this rule.
- 18:20Speaker 2: Even if they say yes, it is still illegal you
- 18:23Speaker 2: could go to prison. So, in other words, you might
- 18:26Speaker 2: go to prison for committing what the government themselves are
- 18:29Speaker 2: saying is a serious crime. Does that apply to other
- 18:32Speaker 2: serious crimes that you may or may not go to prison?
- 18:37Speaker 1: You know who knows? In this day and age, basil
- 18:41Speaker 1: what of course, The other thing is that of course,
- 18:43Speaker 1: the resuiding population are constantly told and have been for
- 18:47Speaker 1: many years, that ignorance of the law is no excuse.
- 18:50Speaker 1: But now we've got a special case and a lot
- 18:53Speaker 1: of people very very offended by this pamphlet by the government.
- 18:59Speaker 2: Exactly and finally respect in public how we're all supposed
- 19:04Speaker 2: to behave You apparently are not allowed to whistle at
- 19:08Speaker 2: people or make kissing noises. I remember when whistling was
- 19:13Speaker 2: regarded with some was regarded with some joviality. Mike, do
- 19:18Speaker 2: you know what I mean? All that's gone follow somebody,
- 19:22Speaker 2: I'll block their path, make or rude or offensive justice,
- 19:26Speaker 2: or verbally abuse somebody because of their gender, religion.
- 19:28Speaker 3: Or how they look.
- 19:29Speaker 2: Well, I'm very glad the government have spent it, spelled
- 19:33Speaker 2: it all out for all of us, not just a
- 19:36Speaker 2: silence seekers there, right, and that's we all need. We
- 19:40Speaker 2: all need to abide by these new guidelines our behavior,
- 19:45Speaker 2: which I think have come from the Nudge unit at
- 19:47Speaker 2: the Home Office.
- 19:48Speaker 1: Indeed, I would guess so completely outrageous. And of course
- 19:53Speaker 1: what it also signifies is that there is a problem
- 19:57Speaker 1: for this particular group of people. They need to be
- 20:00Speaker 1: targeted with a leaflet telling them to behave themselves. So
- 20:04Speaker 1: this is the government that says there is no problem
- 20:07Speaker 1: with what is happening across the country with politically facilitated
- 20:11Speaker 1: migration now changing its spots and saying, WHOA, we need
- 20:14Speaker 1: to provide you with some special guidance on how to
- 20:17Speaker 1: behave But overall, what a disgusting insult to people in
- 20:23Speaker 1: this country for wherever they are from, but a particular insult,
- 20:27Speaker 1: I think to women because it's a very condescending style
- 20:31Speaker 1: that this guidance has written. Well, should we expect more
- 20:35Speaker 1: of this under Andy Burnham? I think the answer to
- 20:39Speaker 1: that is absolutely yes, because he's up to a number
- 20:43Speaker 1: of things. Just taken this image a little bit naughty
- 20:46Speaker 1: here from the Defense HQ ex postings, But this is
- 20:53Speaker 1: Andy Burnham getting very excited at not only about defense
- 20:57Speaker 1: but also the ability of the defense and military industrial
- 21:01Speaker 1: complex to create jobs. So, having seen him on screen there,
- 21:05Speaker 1: let's just have a little look at what's happening around
- 21:10Speaker 1: military defense and indeed wars overseas. So we'll start with
- 21:14Speaker 1: a little bit of a clip which of course is
- 21:16Speaker 1: very worried because the Russians are upset British weapons are
- 21:20Speaker 1: being used to target facilities inside Russia itself. Let's have
- 21:26Speaker 1: a look at this report.
- 21:28Speaker 4: Russia's just threatened the UK with consequences over its supply
- 21:32Speaker 4: of drones to Ukraine, which are being used to strike
- 21:34Speaker 4: inside Russia. The greater Britain's involvement, it said, the higher
- 21:39Speaker 4: the price it would pay, according to a statement from
- 21:41Speaker 4: the Russian embassy here in London. So what might Russia
- 21:45Speaker 4: do well. Direct military action is unlikely, but Russia is
- 21:48Speaker 4: already waging a covert war against all countries in the
- 21:52Speaker 4: NATO Alliance. This takes the form of, for example, Russian
- 21:56Speaker 4: naval activity in UK waters, of sabotage and cyber attacks.
- 22:01Speaker 4: So for example, the arson attacks on property and a
- 22:04Speaker 4: car belonging to the former Prime Minister Sakia Starmer last
- 22:07Speaker 4: year were linked back to Russia. There was also a
- 22:10Speaker 4: Russian ordered attack on a warehouse in London in twenty
- 22:14Speaker 4: twenty four there was story aid for Ukraine. The latest
- 22:17Speaker 4: warning from Russia only underlines why it's been seen as
- 22:20Speaker 4: a growing threat to UK interest. But Andy Burnham has
- 22:24Speaker 4: made clear that the UK will not be intimidated into
- 22:27Speaker 4: backing off from what he called it one hundred percent
- 22:30Speaker 4: support for Ukraine after Russia's illegal invasion.
- 22:35Speaker 1: So there we have it with lots of hand movement
- 22:38Speaker 1: to make sure that you can emphasize that what the
- 22:40Speaker 1: BBC is saying is true.
- 22:42Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I've got to interrupt. Bright.
- 22:44Speaker 2: I was gobsmacked that she had the audacity to claim
- 22:47Speaker 2: that the attack on Keir Starmer's cars was linked back
- 22:51Speaker 2: to Russia.
- 22:52Speaker 3: I don't know that there's any evidence of that being presented.
- 22:55Speaker 1: Well, they don't need any evidence, because Bazil, this is
- 22:58Speaker 1: how the law works in this country. The intelligence services
- 23:02Speaker 1: can simply go into the public domain and claim to
- 23:05Speaker 1: have saved the country from one thousand, two thousand and
- 23:09Speaker 1: ten thousand attacks in the last year or two months
- 23:12Speaker 1: or three days, and nobody is going to challenge them whatsoever.
- 23:17Speaker 1: And if they did, it wouldn't be a problem because
- 23:20Speaker 1: intelligence services, alongside the police and others, have been given
- 23:24Speaker 1: the ability to break the law if they think it's appropriate.
- 23:27Speaker 1: So we're in very, very dangerous times in UK and
- 23:31Speaker 1: it's accelerating, and I've no doubt it's going to drastically
- 23:35Speaker 1: accelerate under Andy Burnham. But if that's the pushback against
- 23:40Speaker 1: the Russians, who are obviously upset that British weapons are
- 23:44Speaker 1: targeting their territory. Let's just have a look at what's
- 23:49Speaker 1: happening in the defense field. And I've got this clip
- 23:53Speaker 1: of Defense Minister Sander Jones on board an aircraft carrier.
- 23:58Speaker 1: Let's have a look at her before mo months.
- 24:02Speaker 5: They're on board HMS Prince of Wales as part of
- 24:05Speaker 5: the Carrier Strike Group which is working with our allies
- 24:08Speaker 5: to defend the North Atlantic. After protecting NATO airspace in
- 24:12Speaker 5: the High North, the Carriers Strike Group is now participating
- 24:16Speaker 5: in NATO Nettune Strike. We are training with our allies,
- 24:20Speaker 5: ready to respond wherever and whenever we are needed. We
- 24:24Speaker 5: have thirty five five debts flying missions. We have a
- 24:27Speaker 5: Toms duncan protecting from threats from the air, along with
- 24:30Speaker 5: ATMs Somerset and a French destroyer, and we're being sustained
- 24:34Speaker 5: by URFA Tidespring. Across this Carrier Strike Group, our sailors,
- 24:38Speaker 5: aviators and crew are working around the clock to protect
- 24:42Speaker 5: British interest and keep the UK safe. This is NATO
- 24:45Speaker 5: first in action, Stronger together and ready together.
- 24:52Speaker 1: Now, what is utterly laughable about that clip is the
- 24:55Speaker 1: lack of knowledge by Defense Minister Luise and Jones there
- 25:01Speaker 1: because she's on board the carrier. She talks about the
- 25:04Speaker 1: carrier battle group. In fact, there isn't one. There's two ships,
- 25:08Speaker 1: one Type forty five no longer effectively at sea and
- 25:13Speaker 1: a French unit. So the raw Navy unable to provide
- 25:17Speaker 1: a full defense force a battle group around that carrier,
- 25:23Speaker 1: and as such the carrier extremely vulnerable, which is why
- 25:27Speaker 1: the British government is not able to put either of
- 25:29Speaker 1: the carriers in a war scenario. So she clearly didn't
- 25:35Speaker 1: know what she was seeing, and of course everybody on
- 25:38Speaker 1: the ship would have been briefed to have been telling
- 25:41Speaker 1: her how wonderful everything was. So you don't see her
- 25:45Speaker 1: ask questions, you don't see her even getting any feedback
- 25:49Speaker 1: from the ship's company of the carrier itself. She ends
- 25:54Speaker 1: by effectively being used as a puppet for a little
- 25:58Speaker 1: real clip for the Ministry of Defense. Bas utterly pathetic.
- 26:04Speaker 1: But what she is actually doing by being on board
- 26:07Speaker 1: the carrier and saying it's a full battle group is
- 26:11Speaker 1: deceiving the public that we still have a Royal Navy
- 26:15Speaker 1: that's capable in this field. Now I just add to
- 26:19Speaker 1: this that the UK column was absolutely alone in continually
- 26:24Speaker 1: warning way back. This is an article from twenty eleven
- 26:29Speaker 1: on the UK Column. The Franco British Council plan to
- 26:32Speaker 1: destroy Britain's military capability, and we were pointing out deception
- 26:37Speaker 1: at the heart of government as Britain's military forces were
- 26:41Speaker 1: being weakened in order to supposedly strengthen the creation of
- 26:45Speaker 1: a pan European military. We warned and we warned, and now,
- 26:50Speaker 1: of course we got to the situation where our weakened
- 26:52Speaker 1: military cannot actually function in the field. So the propaganda
- 26:57Speaker 1: has to come out from the Ministry of Defense. Let's
- 27:00Speaker 1: have a look at this latest clip by Andy Burnham,
- 27:03Speaker 1: who's now really declaring where his policies are going to go,
- 27:07Speaker 1: because defense and war and military industrial complex is a
- 27:12Speaker 1: great thing. Let's see what he says.
- 27:15Speaker 6: I want to tell you about what I think we
- 27:17Speaker 6: can achieve together. You might have heard me say that
- 27:21Speaker 6: I am determined to deliver the biggest changes this country
- 27:23Speaker 6: has seen in forty years. At the heart of that,
- 27:27Speaker 6: we are going to reindustrialize this nation and create the
- 27:30Speaker 6: jobs and opportunities people desperately want to see. But we
- 27:35Speaker 6: can't do that on our own. We will do it
- 27:38Speaker 6: by working together with brilliant businesses like those at Farmborough
- 27:41Speaker 6: this week. The civil, aerospace and defense sectors combined will
- 27:46Speaker 6: support half a million jobs across the country by twenty
- 27:49Speaker 6: thirty and right now two thirds of those jobs are
- 27:53Speaker 6: outside London and the Southeast. I've seen those jobs for
- 27:56Speaker 6: myself and the difference they make. It is a success story,
- 28:01Speaker 6: and so we want to go further. As I said
- 28:03Speaker 6: on the steps of Downing Street yesterday, we are going
- 28:06Speaker 6: to honor our commitments on defense and use that investment
- 28:10Speaker 6: to transform people's lives. And we are going to work
- 28:14Speaker 6: even more closely with our allies. So today we are
- 28:17Speaker 6: not just recommitting to our state of the art GCAP
- 28:20Speaker 6: fighter program. I'm delighted to announce that Canada will join
- 28:25Speaker 6: the program as the first observer nation. GCAP is already
- 28:30Speaker 6: one of the world's most ambitious defense and industrial partnerships,
- 28:33Speaker 6: supporting four five hundred jobs across the UK. Today's announcement
- 28:40Speaker 6: makes it even stronger.
- 28:43Speaker 1: Bride softly delivered, but people need to understand the dangers
- 28:47Speaker 1: of what this man is talking about. So apparently we're
- 28:49Speaker 1: going to reindustrialize the United Kingdom boy using the defense
- 28:54Speaker 1: industry and on the back of that, he's already declared
- 28:57Speaker 1: that he's going to keep more in Ukraine running for
- 29:02Speaker 1: as long as it takes, and he's going to continue
- 29:06Speaker 1: to pump arms into Ukraine, and he's very happy that
- 29:11Speaker 1: those armaments are also used to attack home territory of Russia.
- 29:15Speaker 1: This is unbelievably dangerous basil for this man delivers it
- 29:20Speaker 1: as if butter wouldn't melt in his mouth.
- 29:22Speaker 2: It's not only dangerous, Brian, it's mendacious. Four and a
- 29:25Speaker 2: half thousand jobs in the context of reindustrializing Britain is
- 29:30Speaker 2: not very many at all. It's a tiny number. And
- 29:33Speaker 2: of course, as any a level economic student will tell you,
- 29:37Speaker 2: spending on military equipment has the least multiply effect in
- 29:43Speaker 2: terms of reviving the rest of the economy through suppliers
- 29:49Speaker 2: and people down the supply chain manufacturing components. It's something
- 29:53Speaker 2: like one point seven. Of course, it does help if
- 29:58Speaker 2: contracts are awarded to UK suppliers. We don't know if
- 30:01Speaker 2: there's going to be any of that, but defense spending
- 30:05Speaker 2: is always very investment heavy in terms of the number
- 30:09Speaker 2: of jobs you get out of it. So he's really
- 30:12Speaker 2: being very misleading to the public. By claiming that some
- 30:16Speaker 2: kind of sort of major reindustrialization to the scale of
- 30:21Speaker 2: the nineteen seventies is going to be achieved by building
- 30:23Speaker 2: a few fighter planes.
- 30:25Speaker 1: Well that's the fighter plane contract. But of course alongside
- 30:29Speaker 1: that they're now particularly targeting startup, so he is claiming
- 30:35Speaker 1: large numbers of people will be involved with it. We
- 30:37Speaker 1: will see.
- 30:38Speaker 2: Well, the other thing is these products are have no
- 30:40Speaker 2: benefit to the orderary keeper of Britain. I mean, if
- 30:42Speaker 2: we were actually building new cars or something and people
- 30:45Speaker 2: drive on the roads, or any other consumer product of
- 30:49Speaker 2: the kind that China turns out endlessly, then perhaps we'd
- 30:53Speaker 2: all be a little bit more excited about it. But
- 30:55Speaker 2: how many of his constituents are ever going to ride
- 30:58Speaker 2: in one of those planes?
- 31:00Speaker 1: Very few? I would think. Let's just summarize this to
- 31:03Speaker 1: give a little bit of a picture as to what's
- 31:05Speaker 1: going on. We'll put the blank sheet on screen for you.
- 31:08Speaker 1: Let's bring in the trio Blair effectively from one to
- 31:13Speaker 1: two point zero with Andy Burnham, and think about what
- 31:17Speaker 1: Burnham has already declared major constitutional change in the country's
- 31:22Speaker 1: reciting and reframing the whole idea of what the Prime
- 31:26Speaker 1: Minister's office at number ten is and what the role
- 31:30Speaker 1: of Westminster is. He's talking about well, not talking about
- 31:34Speaker 1: the creation of super cities and mayors acting within their
- 31:38Speaker 1: own fiefdoms. This is now well on the way and
- 31:41Speaker 1: of course it's part of a global agenda for supercities.
- 31:45Speaker 1: And he's talking about power, his power being delivered to
- 31:49Speaker 1: every community in UK, however small. It's not giving power
- 31:54Speaker 1: to the people at a local level. It's delivering the
- 31:57Speaker 1: arm of government power to those local community. So this
- 32:02Speaker 1: is the destruction of democracy as we know it, with
- 32:05Speaker 1: all its faults, and he's boasting that he's going to
- 32:08Speaker 1: be introducing major change very quickly. Now he's talking about
- 32:13Speaker 1: reindustrialization of the country through basically a pro military policy
- 32:20Speaker 1: and in addition to that, anybody that dares to challenge
- 32:25Speaker 1: what's going on is going to be stamped on. But
- 32:27Speaker 1: we've also got the increasing use of applied political psychological
- 32:32Speaker 1: behavior with the Behavioral Insights Unit, and it's coupled with propaganda.
- 32:38Speaker 1: And yes, a sneak previewer gave you that if you
- 32:41Speaker 1: dare speak out about this, then you are going to
- 32:45Speaker 1: be shut up by being accused of being some helper
- 32:49Speaker 1: for a foreign agency under the national Security States threat
- 32:54Speaker 1: at twenty twenty six. So what drives everything that he
- 32:59Speaker 1: wants to achieve. Well, of course it's war and more war,
- 33:03Speaker 1: because the more war this government can support, the more
- 33:07Speaker 1: it is going to need the military industrial complex, and
- 33:10Speaker 1: the more it can then integrate people in society. And
- 33:14Speaker 1: they're keen on getting young youngsters in from school to
- 33:18Speaker 1: help build this. So I think we've seen a Reich
- 33:21Speaker 1: like this before, but it's being built in a softer way.
- 33:26Speaker 1: That's my opinion on this.
- 33:28Speaker 2: Exactually reindustrialization through militarization. That could be a slogan from
- 33:33Speaker 2: the nineteen thirties, couldn't it. Indeed, very quickly before we're
- 33:37Speaker 2: joined by Ambassador Peter Ford to talk about the myriad
- 33:43Speaker 2: issues affecting the Middle East.
- 33:45Speaker 3: He was ambassador to Syria.
- 33:47Speaker 2: Of course, I do just want to run through three
- 33:50Speaker 2: important legal cases. There are indeed several ongoing. First of all,
- 33:57Speaker 2: Tony Greenstein, who has been involved in Palestine action, former
- 34:01Speaker 2: Labor Party activists, the son of an Orthodox rabbi. You
- 34:06Speaker 2: don't get more Jewish than Tony yet of course, he
- 34:08Speaker 2: was kicked out of the Labor Party for antisemitism. Now
- 34:12Speaker 2: he's facing terrorism charges for a few mean tweets. Under
- 34:17Speaker 2: Section twelve, he could face fourteen years in prison for
- 34:22Speaker 2: social media posts. Interestingly, the defense team, you'll like this, Brian,
- 34:28Speaker 2: refer to evidence that the Crown and the Court had
- 34:30Speaker 2: decided the jury should not be allowed to see. We're
- 34:33Speaker 2: seeing this increasingly evidence presented to a court.
- 34:37Speaker 1: God, well, this is transparency. If you don't understand what
- 34:41Speaker 1: it is. This is government application of transparency.
- 34:44Speaker 3: Heavy dose of.
- 34:49Speaker 2: Frida, and the defense cross examined police on the gap
- 34:51Speaker 2: between the size of the original interview transcript and the
- 34:55Speaker 2: heavily redacted one shown to the jury.
- 34:57Speaker 3: Consequently, the judge ordered the jury to leave.
- 35:00Speaker 2: Caught on several occasions in an attempt to prevent the
- 35:02Speaker 2: defense from referring to excluded evidence.
- 35:06Speaker 1: Entirely appropriate if you want to run a dictatorship, so
- 35:09Speaker 1: it's easy to see what's happening here.
- 35:14Speaker 2: Warning that the court was not tasked with examining the
- 35:17Speaker 2: broader history of the Middle East, the judge directed the
- 35:20Speaker 2: defendant Tony Greenstein, to say focused on the specific indictment.
- 35:25Speaker 2: He retorted from the witness box that that's the problem
- 35:28Speaker 2: with the ruling class in this country. They turn a
- 35:31Speaker 2: blind eye to genocide. That's when they're not actually actively
- 35:35Speaker 2: helping it.
- 35:36Speaker 3: Brian. Of course.
- 35:37Speaker 2: Next, of course, in Scotland, Craig Murray has been spearheading
- 35:43Speaker 2: a tremendous campaign for a judicial review into the prescription
- 35:46Speaker 2: of Palestine action north of the border, and he was
- 35:50Speaker 2: speaking outside the High Court in Edinburgh yesterday as we
- 35:54Speaker 2: can hear.
- 35:55Speaker 7: Now it is ridiculous for eight months after permission, granted
- 36:01Speaker 7: we're still not hearing anything.
- 36:02Speaker 8: At the substance to the peace.
- 36:04Speaker 7: We weren't hearing anything today about all the people who
- 36:06Speaker 7: have been arrested. They've alone anything about the tunicide in
- 36:10Speaker 7: Gaza that this is about. The government has just dragged
- 36:14Speaker 7: this into this quand mile of procedual motions and request
- 36:18Speaker 7: the delay and after spending eight months with motion after
- 36:24Speaker 7: motion to delay the case day to day, said that
- 36:28Speaker 7: the case has to be finished because there's no time
- 36:30Speaker 7: to conclude.
- 36:31Speaker 8: This in Cinega. And it's attempting.
- 36:36Speaker 7: To prevent the people of Scotland getting a decision from their.
- 36:41Speaker 8: Own courts under Scott's Hall.
- 36:44Speaker 9: The willingness of the courts to go along with the
- 36:48Speaker 9: shadad of all these excuses for delay, and the latest
- 36:53Speaker 9: excuse for delay is that we have to wait to
- 36:55Speaker 9: air for special advocates and are closed settiments.
- 36:58Speaker 7: That is an entirely.
- 37:01Speaker 8: Closed process.
- 37:03Speaker 7: It's not hitting evidence from us about genocide in Gaza.
- 37:07Speaker 7: It's not hearing evidence from us about all the people
- 37:12Speaker 7: who've been arrested.
- 37:13Speaker 8: For exercising their right of de speech.
- 37:17Speaker 7: It is hearing evidence from the intelligence services in secret
- 37:22Speaker 7: alleging that we are all agents that are on or
- 37:26Speaker 7: all teriders with bonds under our beds, or whatever bloody
- 37:29Speaker 7: lies for security services have concocted against us. Again, the
- 37:35Speaker 7: notion that this in any sense is a process of
- 37:38Speaker 7: justice is ludicrous.
- 37:41Speaker 8: And the reason for the further weeks delay.
- 37:43Speaker 7: Is so that the court here go the closed.
- 37:47Speaker 8: Secret intelligence process.
- 37:49Speaker 7: How much more time the security services need to invent
- 37:53Speaker 7: some more lies about us and to say that we
- 37:56Speaker 7: can't have a court case because it is too expensive,
- 38:00Speaker 7: And that was actually the main government argument today. But
- 38:04Speaker 7: it is too expensive for the courts to hear our case.
- 38:08Speaker 7: It's not too expensive for them to look to put
- 38:11Speaker 7: the and a half thousand people.
- 38:13Speaker 8: In the United Kingdom in present. That's not too expensive.
- 38:21Speaker 7: That's going to cost millions and millions and millions of
- 38:24Speaker 7: pounds to trial those people. It's going to cost tens
- 38:27Speaker 7: of millions to imprisonment. The arguments we were hearing in
- 38:31Speaker 7: there were absolutely bloody, but Bettic historians are going to
- 38:36Speaker 7: look back on this period in astonishment at the kind
- 38:40Speaker 7: of fascist back down that it's been happening in this
- 38:43Speaker 7: country in order for the UK government to maintain its
- 38:48Speaker 7: complicity in genocide.
- 38:50Speaker 8: Because that's what.
- 38:52Speaker 2: Thank you so much, tremendous speech from Craig Murray. Indeed,
- 39:01Speaker 2: it seems like the government are just throwing everything they can,
- 39:04Speaker 2: I mean, the specious, nonsilent, unbelievable stuff. Finally, the jury
- 39:11Speaker 2: has refused to convict defendants in the latest Palestine Action
- 39:17Speaker 2: filt in twenty five case. They've already spent eighteen months
- 39:21Speaker 2: in prison, which is far longer than the six months
- 39:23Speaker 2: recommended for anybody on remand the jury deliberrated for more
- 39:28Speaker 2: than thirty seven hours and we're unable to reach verdicts.
- 39:32Speaker 2: As Craig actually pointed out in a tweaked Craig Murray,
- 39:35Speaker 2: if you take any random twelve people in Britain, you're
- 39:38Speaker 2: going to find three or four who think that weapons
- 39:41Speaker 2: manufacturers making products for genocide should be targeted. Indeed, government
- 39:48Speaker 2: as an obligation under the Genocide Convention to prevent genocide,
- 39:52Speaker 2: but they've completely abandoned that years ago. So in response
- 39:56Speaker 2: to these verdicts, the film and twenty five Committee are
- 40:00Speaker 2: an attempt by the state to justify the disprobortionate description.
- 40:05Speaker 2: And of course they may yet go for a retrial
- 40:07Speaker 2: because they weren't found not guilty, they just refused to
- 40:10Speaker 2: convict them. The additional trial would be a huge waste
- 40:15Speaker 2: of resources and a cynical attempt to manipulate the court
- 40:17Speaker 2: process in order to convict the defendants. This is another
- 40:20Speaker 2: case where the terrorism connection may be appended after the
- 40:25Speaker 2: verdict as well. And of course note that should the
- 40:28Speaker 2: government choose to proceed with another trial, they'll find the
- 40:32Speaker 2: money for that, but not for the judicial review into
- 40:36Speaker 2: the legality of the prescription.
- 40:37Speaker 3: Of the first place.
- 40:38Speaker 2: Anyway, moving swiftly on now to the major events of
- 40:43Speaker 2: the Middle East, and it really is a more perilous
- 40:49Speaker 2: situation on multiple fronts than we've ever seen before. Quite frankly,
- 40:54Speaker 2: I'm delighted to say were joined on the program by
- 40:58Speaker 2: Britain's former ambasile to Siria Peter Ford.
- 41:02Speaker 3: Welcome to the program. Peter. We can't hear you, Peter.
- 41:08Speaker 3: You may be muted.
- 41:10Speaker 8: You're in.
- 41:15Speaker 3: Just as hell, Peter. No, there we go reconnect our control.
- 41:24Speaker 2: And is suggesting we reconnect while we're just waiting for
- 41:28Speaker 2: this bazzle. Yes, it's let's go to the first slide
- 41:31Speaker 2: then go on.
- 41:32Speaker 1: Well, I was just going to say that the danger
- 41:35Speaker 1: inside this country is becoming easier and easier to see
- 41:39Speaker 1: already in our chat what people are saying. But what
- 41:41Speaker 1: do we do about it? And the answer, a simple
- 41:45Speaker 1: answer is to talk to as many people as possible.
- 41:48Speaker 1: Because the government can only do this while relatively few
- 41:53Speaker 1: people challenge it. When it's a majority of the population,
- 41:57Speaker 1: this is over. So the spa of information and truthful
- 42:01Speaker 1: reporting is absolutely key. And get you understand very quickly
- 42:07Speaker 1: that the government is going to do everything it can
- 42:09Speaker 1: to shut down alternative new media, which is challenging the
- 42:15Speaker 1: government indeed what the established media are talking about. So
- 42:19Speaker 1: there's a lot that people can do, and the key
- 42:22Speaker 1: thing is very simple. It's talked to other people and
- 42:26Speaker 1: spreading proper information and the truth. So, yes, I'm a
- 42:32Speaker 1: bit more optimistic, Brian. I don't think they're going to
- 42:34Speaker 1: be able to crack down on us in any meaningful sense.
- 42:36Speaker 1: But we do, of course have to keep talking. We
- 42:38Speaker 1: have to support independent media across the board as far
- 42:42Speaker 1: as we can, as far as I'm concerned. Now, before
- 42:45Speaker 1: Peterford joins us, let's just have a look through at
- 42:49Speaker 1: a statement from the governments of Britain, Canada, France and
- 42:57Speaker 1: other countries yesterday on the ey Settlement project. Now, as
- 43:03Speaker 1: I'm sure viewers are aware of, Britain and indeed until
- 43:06Speaker 1: recently the United States was committed to this two state
- 43:10Speaker 1: solution and independent Palestinian state in the West Bank and
- 43:13Speaker 1: Gaza Strip alongside Israel. Well, that is becoming increasingly impossible
- 43:19Speaker 1: with the physical destruction of Palestine via the building of
- 43:25Speaker 1: the settlements, and the E one Settlement project is now
- 43:29Speaker 1: out for tender. This will cut across the heart of
- 43:32Speaker 1: Palestine and separate the West Bank from East Jerusalem, thereby
- 43:37Speaker 1: making a Palestinian contiguous Palestinian state effectively impossible. The UK
- 43:43Speaker 1: said the government has been clear privately and publicly in
- 43:46Speaker 1: our opposition to E one and now support for two
- 43:49Speaker 1: state solution as the only way to ensure the long
- 43:51Speaker 1: term security and peace of both Palestinians and Israelis. All settlements,
- 43:55Speaker 1: they said, damage that prospect and are a flagrant beach
- 44:01Speaker 1: of international law. Well, indeed, all the settlements are a
- 44:04Speaker 1: breed of international law, but Britain hasn't done anything about
- 44:08Speaker 1: the vast majority of them. The Israeli government's decision effectively
- 44:16Speaker 1: would I mean, they've said it privately, they've said it
- 44:18Speaker 1: in the Nesset, they send it all over the place,
- 44:21Speaker 1: bring an end to the possibility of a Palestinian state.
- 44:25Speaker 1: But finally, finally it seems the UK are going to
- 44:33Speaker 1: do something about it, or are they? I think it's
- 44:35Speaker 1: just fine words, Brian. We're going to go to the
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- 47:25Speaker 8: Now.
- 47:25Speaker 1: I'm delighted to say we've finally got our guests connected,
- 47:29Speaker 1: so I'll hand over to you Basil.
- 47:31Speaker 2: Thanks Brian, welcome to the piece to the program, Peter,
- 47:35Speaker 2: sorry it slightly delayed very quickly. First of all, this
- 47:40Speaker 2: E one settlement block that threatens to cut the West
- 47:44Speaker 2: Bank in half and effectively end the possibility of a
- 47:47Speaker 2: contiguous Palestinian state. This has been an inevitability for some time,
- 47:54Speaker 2: and when you factor in that none of the candidates
- 47:58Speaker 2: for the Prime ministership, one of the major parties in
- 48:01Speaker 2: the upcoming Israeli election to talking about a two state solution.
- 48:05Speaker 2: We finally reached the point of irresistible force meets immovable object,
- 48:10Speaker 2: haven't we. And these claims of a two state solution
- 48:15Speaker 2: as being viable claims from you know, Western government's, Europe
- 48:19Speaker 2: in particular, and theoretically at least still the United States. Well,
- 48:24Speaker 2: the chickens are finally coming home to roost, aren't they.
- 48:29Speaker 10: Indeed, this statement will not make a blind bit of difference.
- 48:33Speaker 10: It will be water off a duck's back as regards Israel,
- 48:39Speaker 10: and in fact, the Netanyahu government probably welcome this kind
- 48:44Speaker 10: of statement because it allows him to pose as the
- 48:49Speaker 10: natural leader, standing up to the horrible goyim who all
- 48:54Speaker 10: hates Israel and setic a pathetic reaction. A serious reaction
- 49:04Speaker 10: would have been to institute immediately economic sanctions against Israel,
- 49:11Speaker 10: but this is not in serious prospect. The European countries
- 49:16Speaker 10: have been talking about possible sanctions on Israel for at
- 49:21Speaker 10: least three decades. I know that because I might help
- 49:26Speaker 10: set the ball rolling all those years ago, and still
- 49:30Speaker 10: nothing serious has happened, nor is it likely to happen.
- 49:35Speaker 10: People should be judged by actions more than words. And
- 49:40Speaker 10: the first action of the Burnham government when Burnham entered
- 49:46Speaker 10: en Downing Street with regard to the Middle East was
- 49:51Speaker 10: on day one to allow the Americans to use British
- 49:54Speaker 10: spaces to bomb Iran, the one country which has been
- 49:59Speaker 10: defending Palestine. And on day two he authorized its Foreign
- 50:05Speaker 10: Secretary to instruct the British representative ambassador in the Hague
- 50:13Speaker 10: to vote for the dismissal of the International Criminal Court
- 50:20Speaker 10: prosecutor who had gone after and indicted Netan Yahoo for
- 50:26Speaker 10: war crimes. A kangaroo court was got off in the
- 50:32Speaker 10: Hague which ignored the previous findings of an internal investigation
- 50:41Speaker 10: into the Trump charges against Karim Khan, the British Chief prosecutor.
- 50:50Speaker 10: And they voted by an overwhelming majority, who dismiss this
- 50:55Speaker 10: brave and principled man that was in the back for Palestine,
- 51:02Speaker 10: for international legality and for any hopes of a two
- 51:08Speaker 10: state solution. So everything judge judgment by their actions. And
- 51:15Speaker 10: this was on day one and day two, and they
- 51:18Speaker 10: will carry on in that vein. I'm sure look at
- 51:21Speaker 10: their actions, not some words which are merely mouthed anyway,
- 51:28Speaker 10: you are.
- 51:28Speaker 3: Absolutely right, Peter.
- 51:30Speaker 2: Now, Israel appeared in a speech by nettiyou this week
- 51:36Speaker 2: to change its military doctrine to one of openly admitting
- 51:42Speaker 2: that they intend to initiate aggression. And we then saw
- 51:46Speaker 2: Israeli strikes on a base in Syria. The idea is
- 51:51Speaker 2: that the Turkish were about to position troops there. Tremendously
- 51:55Speaker 2: increased tension between Israel and Turkey leased over the whole
- 52:01Speaker 2: Cyprus question as well. But so surely even the Israelis
- 52:06Speaker 2: can't risk an open confrontation against the NATO member in Turkey,
- 52:10Speaker 2: can it.
- 52:14Speaker 10: Well. This development came days after the announcement with fanfares
- 52:21Speaker 10: of what's being called the Meca Pact or Mecca Agreement
- 52:28Speaker 10: defense agreement between Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Pakistan, equivalent to
- 52:36Speaker 10: Article five of the NATO Charter. They promised to come
- 52:41Speaker 10: to each other's defense in the event of one of
- 52:44Speaker 10: them being attacked. And I would read this development as
- 52:49Speaker 10: Israel something its nose at the new Mecca Agreement and
- 52:54Speaker 10: showing up it's hollowness. Now it may not be hollow.
- 53:00Speaker 10: This wasn't Israel declaring war on Turkey. It was a
- 53:05Speaker 10: minor skirmish, if you like, but it does show that
- 53:12Speaker 10: tension is ratcheting up, that Turkey is being drawn into
- 53:19Speaker 10: a non NATO alliance, which can only be a good thing,
- 53:24Speaker 10: and we have to read it as part of the
- 53:28Speaker 10: fallout from the Iran crisis. It shows this country is,
- 53:34Speaker 10: particularly Saudi Arabia, moving out of the orbit of the
- 53:38Speaker 10: United States.
- 53:42Speaker 2: Brian, I know you wanted to ask Peter about nord
- 53:45Speaker 2: Stream and indeed the wider context of Britain's increasing hostility
- 53:52Speaker 2: towards Russia, which was highlighted earlier as his program.
- 53:56Speaker 1: Yes Speeder, If I may, I watch with interest and
- 54:01Speaker 1: horror really, as we've now got to the stage where
- 54:05Speaker 1: the United Kingdom is boasting that it's weapons, in particular
- 54:10Speaker 1: drone weapons are now being used to target sites well
- 54:15Speaker 1: within Russia itself, and of course Putin has pushed back
- 54:19Speaker 1: about this and said, well, he's entitled to a response.
- 54:24Speaker 2: I just get the.
- 54:25Speaker 1: Impression that our government is desperate for full blown war
- 54:31Speaker 1: with Russia and they're prepared to ramp up and provoke
- 54:35Speaker 1: at every opportunity to achieve this state. I never thought
- 54:39Speaker 1: i'd sort of hear myself saying this as a military
- 54:44Speaker 1: person with some idea of where a measured response can be.
- 54:48Speaker 1: But when I look at what the government is doing,
- 54:51Speaker 1: the cavalier attitude of the British government, it seems to
- 54:55Speaker 1: me that the intention is to deliberately provoke Russia so
- 55:01Speaker 1: as to exacerbate the fighting. What's your opinion.
- 55:09Speaker 10: Yes, Britain is goading Russia. That could be no two
- 55:15Speaker 10: ways about it. It's not just the drones, it's across
- 55:19Speaker 10: the whole range of hybrid warfare, economic warfare, which includes
- 55:27Speaker 10: the the tension in June on the high seas the
- 55:34Speaker 10: English Channel of a tanker with that was carrying Russian oil,
- 55:41Speaker 10: one hundred thousand tons of Russian oil, and we saw
- 55:46Speaker 10: the thrilling pictures of British I think they were marines
- 55:53Speaker 10: HAPs sailing down onto the decks for unopposed landing on
- 55:59Speaker 10: the decks, and we saw a few of the startled
- 56:04Speaker 10: Indian sailors. But this was a deeply political act. I
- 56:11Speaker 10: cannot see any shred of legal justification. The ship was
- 56:16Speaker 10: not in British waters, there's no dispute about that. The
- 56:21Speaker 10: British government alleged contravention of British sanctions. Well, these are
- 56:28Speaker 10: purely British sanctions not endorsed by the United Nations, and
- 56:34Speaker 10: it followed to its logical conclusion. It means that the
- 56:39Speaker 10: British government and the American government can carry out acts
- 56:42Speaker 10: of piracy at any time and in any place that
- 56:45Speaker 10: they want. If this is not goading Russia, I don't
- 56:49Speaker 10: know what is. What amazes me is that Russia hasn't
- 56:54Speaker 10: responded in kind, and we must hold our breaths. It
- 57:00Speaker 10: could happen at any moment that we get some news
- 57:04Speaker 10: about with the Russians retaliate thing.
- 57:08Speaker 2: Indeed, and you know, con commisant with these threats made
- 57:11Speaker 2: by the Israelis and indeed the American government and the
- 57:15Speaker 2: sanctions placed on carrying Khan, the other prosecutors at the ICC,
- 57:20Speaker 2: and of course Francesca Albanesi. There's a pattern here, isn't there,
- 57:25Speaker 2: of a sort of international gangsterism by the Anglo American
- 57:30Speaker 2: Zionist alliance.
- 57:31Speaker 10: Peter, as a former Foreign Office official, I'm absolutely shocked
- 57:40Speaker 10: by the cavalier attitude, to put it mildly, towards the
- 57:44Speaker 10: international law. When I was in the Foreign Office, the
- 57:50Speaker 10: Foreign Office lawyers were forced in the land and you
- 57:56Speaker 10: had to go to great length to keep them on board.
- 58:01Speaker 10: Now they are just rubber stamps. It seems Britain has
- 58:05Speaker 10: from being a genuine champion of Internet, Britain one of
- 58:11Speaker 10: the one flouters of international We failed to condemn the
- 58:19Speaker 10: illegal American on Iran. Not just that, but we helped
- 58:26Speaker 10: facility and still to this day are helping to facilitate
- 58:30Speaker 10: a totally illegal are basis. Furthermore, in the run up
- 58:37Speaker 10: to that war, we used every tool in the information
- 58:42Speaker 10: warfare toolkit to prepare the way for war, and we
- 58:48Speaker 10: would have been the first to congratulate America if it
- 58:51Speaker 10: had succeeded.
- 58:53Speaker 2: Yes, finally, Peter, because we're just about out of time.
- 58:57Speaker 2: The former Republican congresswoman and its ally Donald Trump, Marjorie
- 59:01Speaker 2: Taylor Green so her sources in the White House have
- 59:05Speaker 2: told her that Trump is seriously consideredly new King Iran.
- 59:11Speaker 2: I mean, this is insanity of the most extreme variety.
- 59:16Speaker 2: I mean, if they're even contemplating this, this would indicate
- 59:20Speaker 2: a really, really dangerous cabal at the heart of the
- 59:25Speaker 2: United States government.
- 59:29Speaker 10: Yes, I find the ex Senator's statement entirely credible. It's
- 59:40Speaker 10: entirely consistent with what we know about Trump. And with
- 59:44Speaker 10: statements that he made strongly hinting that he was looking
- 59:48Speaker 10: at a nuclear option. So in fact, I would say
- 59:52Speaker 10: highly likely that Trump looked at this, asked for options,
- 59:57Speaker 10: but with walk back on fairly obvious grounds, not on
- 1:00:04Speaker 10: grounds of it being illegal even in today's world it
- 1:00:09Speaker 10: would shock the lawyers if you just nuclear country you
- 1:00:12Speaker 10: didn't like, but on more practical grounds that it would
- 1:00:20Speaker 10: not be well received by the American public for their
- 1:00:24Speaker 10: country for a second time to bomb an Asian country,
- 1:00:31Speaker 10: and it were particularly not good if civilians were killed
- 1:00:35Speaker 10: on mass And secondly, unless it was a Nagasaki Hiroshima
- 1:00:41Speaker 10: type attack, it wouldn't.
- 1:00:48Speaker 3: Believe it that we're going to do.
- 1:00:49Speaker 2: In case you missed it, a quick roundup of the
- 1:00:53Speaker 2: stories from the you missed it, including the funny one.
- 1:00:55Speaker 2: We're going to do it in extra Brian, aren't we,
- 1:00:57Speaker 2: because well we've come hard up again. It's the barriers
- 1:01:01Speaker 2: at the end of the at the end of the
- 1:01:02Speaker 2: railway line.
- 1:01:04Speaker 1: So so a big thank you to our viewers. Today.
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: We have had a couple of minor technical issues, but
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: luckily we've got Pe to ford On with us, and
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: that was a very interesting segment. We'll just reiterate the
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: fact that it is very clear some very very serious
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: things were unfolding in UK. The thing is for people
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: to be able to see them and recognize them for
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: what they are. And the minimum we can say here
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: as the UK Column News team is that we're witnessing
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: the Government of UK disregarding law at all levels. That's
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: both within the country and how court should be properly
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: run and it's external in what international law does and
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: does not permit. So essentially we're looking at Burnham's labor administration.
- 1:01:58Speaker 1: This was happening of course under the Tories as well
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: and through Keir Starmer. We've got a government out of control.
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: It's prepared to attack its own population, it's prepared to
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: attack the Russians or Iran, and once this thing is
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: fully off the leash, we are in dangerous times.
- 1:02:16Speaker 8: Now.
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: You made an optimistic comment to me. Just now let's
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: end with that on the news. Can people do something
- 1:02:24Speaker 1: about this as or what's your advice?
- 1:02:27Speaker 2: Yes, as you said, Brian, keep talking, keep raising awareness.
- 1:02:31Speaker 2: We are in particularly challenging times, but it's in challenging
- 1:02:36Speaker 2: times that well, this is what we were born for, Brian.
- 1:02:39Speaker 3: We were born for this standing up at this moment.
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: Been counted exactly absolutely, So have courage, look after yourself,
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: support each other, and of course, because it is Friday,
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: make sure you get some rest and recreation and fresh
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: air over the weekend. These are all simple things that
- 1:03:01Speaker 1: make you feel better and give you the strengths to
- 1:03:03Speaker 1: fight the fight. So thank you very much for everybody
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: who's joined us today, and.
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: Very very quickly, Ben Timperley, the Labor anti corruption campaigner,
- 1:03:12Speaker 2: is going to be joining us in extra where we
- 1:03:14Speaker 2: will pick up on these themes about the current government
- 1:03:19Speaker 2: and what Burnham has got planned for us.
- 1:03:22Speaker 3: This mysterious word change. We're going to get the biggest
- 1:03:24Speaker 3: change in forty years. But you know it isn't always
- 1:03:28Speaker 3: for the best.
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: It certainly will not be for the best. We must
- 1:03:32Speaker 1: stand there. That's it for today's uk ON News. We'll
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: be back on Monday at one o'clock. See you then,
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: Bye bye,