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- 0:05Speaker 1: Drama Darling. Drama Darling, Drama Darling, Yello, Welcome in. It's
- 0:22Speaker 1: Drama Darling. It is going to be a great day
- 0:25Speaker 1: recapping the valley. It's Wednesday, May seventh, Darlings. I am
- 0:30Speaker 1: celebrating my two year anniversary of Drama Darling this week,
- 0:35Speaker 1: so I know, so if you'd like to celebrate with
- 0:40Speaker 1: me and join the patreon dot com slash drama Darling,
- 0:44Speaker 1: join the movement and head on over there. We're going
- 0:49Speaker 1: to have a trivia night this Saturday, so if you're
- 0:52Speaker 1: a Darling, you can join. It's a trivia on Zoom.
- 0:54Speaker 1: It's all Bravo. It's so fun. We've done it before.
- 0:57Speaker 1: It's going to be I haven't sent out like, I
- 0:59Speaker 1: haven't done the graphic or poster for it yet, but
- 1:02Speaker 1: it's probably gonna be like a champagne party, you know,
- 1:05Speaker 1: just to celebrate and we do trivia and we have
- 1:08Speaker 1: a blast, and there are prizes. Prizes have been won,
- 1:12Speaker 1: so I know you can join. You can hear the
- 1:17Speaker 1: lovely tones of one Dn m Chang Hello and Jamie
- 1:22Speaker 1: Moyer Hello.
- 1:23Speaker 2: Hello, welcome in, Hello.
- 1:26Speaker 1: No, welcome you, welcome in.
- 1:27Speaker 3: Yes, I do feel like covid took a lot from us,
- 1:30Speaker 3: but it gave us the opening to have a cocktail
- 1:35Speaker 3: at home hop on a zoom. Yeah, you're with your
- 1:39Speaker 3: remote gal pals and guys, you know, and have a nice.
- 1:43Speaker 1: Test and I love it. And you know, some good
- 1:47Speaker 1: things came out of COVID, and that is you're exactly right,
- 1:50Speaker 1: work from a lot of work from home and a
- 1:52Speaker 1: lot of like, you know, let's keep our friendships going
- 1:55Speaker 1: via zoom.
- 1:56Speaker 2: Yeah, so I kicked via zoom.
- 2:00Speaker 1: We sure did. We did a psychic via zoom. We
- 2:03Speaker 1: also did. I think I mentioned it on the podcast
- 2:06Speaker 1: that we did a nyolchi like an Italian cooking party
- 2:10Speaker 1: for someone's birthday. Remember that.
- 2:12Speaker 2: Yep, that was delish and we uh.
- 2:15Speaker 4: I did some improv shows on zoom for a second City,
- 2:18Speaker 4: intended by people all over the world.
- 2:20Speaker 2: Sometimes there'd be like a thousand people watching.
- 2:23Speaker 1: Oh my god, Speaking of improv shows, Jamie is doing
- 2:25Speaker 1: a show at UCB with who Jamie, Oh.
- 2:29Speaker 4: My God and Maddox, the assistant of Tom Sandoval.
- 2:35Speaker 1: Her name, her last name is Maddox. That's Arianna's last name, oh.
- 2:40Speaker 2: Anne Miller and Maddix.
- 2:42Speaker 1: Her name is Maddox, isn't it her last name is
- 2:44Speaker 1: Maddox too.
- 2:45Speaker 2: Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe I'm wrong.
- 2:48Speaker 4: Her name is hold. Oh, it's so exciting as I
- 2:51Speaker 4: go back at my story.
- 2:52Speaker 3: No, you're right, it is Maddox.
- 2:54Speaker 1: Yeah, is crazy. No, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I just
- 2:59Speaker 1: can't believe the chances of that. I didn't. I never
- 3:02Speaker 1: knew that her. But it's spelled DDX, not d ix
- 3:07Speaker 1: like Ariana w.
- 3:09Speaker 2: I don't know. But they are sisters and they share
- 3:11Speaker 2: a father.
- 3:11Speaker 4: Put it out in the world. I said it first
- 3:14Speaker 4: drama Darling tea time.
- 3:16Speaker 1: You will be at Upright Citizens Brigade on Saturday, May tenth,
- 3:20Speaker 1: that's this weekend at ten thirty.
- 3:23Speaker 4: Yes, I've excited. I've done two shows with her. She's
- 3:26Speaker 4: very nice, very friendly.
- 3:29Speaker 1: You should go on her podcast.
- 3:30Speaker 3: How is it?
- 3:31Speaker 2: Uh?
- 3:32Speaker 4: Yeah? The shall we do at UCV. It's called seven
- 3:36Speaker 4: Minutes in Heaven and it's fourteen improvisers who are randomly
- 3:41Speaker 4: paired up and do seven seven minute long scenes with
- 3:45Speaker 4: no interruptions, with no entrances. That's really a cool concept.
- 3:49Speaker 2: Yeah, it's cool, very cool. And you're in it where for.
- 3:52Speaker 4: Seven minutes, even with you're with a stranger and you're like, oh,
- 3:55Speaker 4: so happy to be home grandma, and they're like, I'm
- 3:57Speaker 4: not your grandma, I'm a cod and.
- 4:02Speaker 1: Great, the old big mistake, the old improv mistake, say
- 4:06Speaker 1: no every time. All right, you guys, Well we we've
- 4:11Speaker 1: got a lot to discuss with obviously the valley, so.
- 4:16Speaker 2: Welcome, thank you.
- 4:18Speaker 1: And I also pulled so I pulled this from the episode.
- 4:24Speaker 1: Can you hear it?
- 4:24Speaker 2: Wait?
- 4:24Speaker 3: What was that?
- 4:25Speaker 1: Okay, let me make it a little louder. Zag told
- 4:31Speaker 1: me on that line, and then you hear the ding
- 4:34Speaker 1: dings come in. Oh my gosh, you guys. Okay, So
- 4:37Speaker 1: I did watch a little bit of the after show,
- 4:40Speaker 1: not too much. I apologize. I sort of ran out
- 4:42Speaker 1: of time this morning. But you know, one of the
- 4:45Speaker 1: things that stood out to me and that I caught
- 4:49Speaker 1: was that the phone in the rehab, everyone was asking
- 4:52Speaker 1: why does he have the phone? And essentially they do
- 4:55Speaker 1: ask you to give it up, you know, but he
- 4:57Speaker 1: chose not to. And Jack said in his of course,
- 5:01Speaker 1: you know, he said on the after show, in the
- 5:04Speaker 1: state of California, they can't take away your phone, so
- 5:07Speaker 1: like he did that argument, but he said that he
- 5:11Speaker 1: regrets not doing that. And then the second time that
- 5:13Speaker 1: he went which I don't know what he's talking about
- 5:17Speaker 1: when he went back a second time, but he said
- 5:18Speaker 1: that the second time he did give up his phone.
- 5:21Speaker 1: So and then you know what was interesting, and I'll
- 5:26Speaker 1: leave it at this, is that in the after show
- 5:31Speaker 1: he takes a lot of responsibility for ruining lives and
- 5:35Speaker 1: all this stuff great, and that he was messed up
- 5:38Speaker 1: and he needed to rehab and all this stuff. Okay, that aside,
- 5:41Speaker 1: he still dug his heels into He just if he
- 5:45Speaker 1: could have just gotten one text or one note from
- 5:49Speaker 1: someone saying, yeah, like, we're proud of you, buddy, You're
- 5:52Speaker 1: doing a great job. It's like, are you serious, like
- 5:55Speaker 1: you you still haven't dug down to that part where
- 5:57Speaker 1: you really need to release that he was expecting when
- 6:01Speaker 1: he came back home to the house. I guess he
- 6:03Speaker 1: was disappointed that there wasn't a note from Brittany saying like,
- 6:07Speaker 1: we're you know, Cruz and I are proud of you.
- 6:09Speaker 1: It's like you've destroyed their lives. What the fact that
- 6:13Speaker 1: you're now speaking on this after you're out says it
- 6:17Speaker 1: speaks volumes, and yet at the same time he's saying
- 6:19Speaker 1: like he's taking ownership for all the stuff that he's done.
- 6:22Speaker 1: But he's like, but I'm just saying it would have helped.
- 6:24Speaker 1: It's like, dude, no, nothing would have helped you. You're
- 6:26Speaker 1: lucky she's even talking to you.
- 6:29Speaker 4: That's right, nothing would have helped. He's pure narcissism at
- 6:32Speaker 4: the core. It's disgusting. Those texts were so mean too.
- 6:35Speaker 4: They're like, she's trying to have a good time, she's
- 6:38Speaker 4: in a cute little hat pink racing outfit. Don't text
- 6:42Speaker 4: her all this bullshit. I felt so bad for her.
- 6:45Speaker 4: That's one of the top ten bad times I've felt
- 6:48Speaker 4: for her is how he's in rehab. She's hoping everything's
- 6:50Speaker 4: going to work out, and the minute he gets a break, he's.
- 6:53Speaker 2: Like, yeah, well, how could you do this?
- 6:54Speaker 4: And then sending someone else a text she said Julian
- 6:57Speaker 4: pictures when he sent that to Kristen, right yeah.
- 7:00Speaker 1: And the other thing is I'm like, Kristen, don't tell her.
- 7:03Speaker 1: She's like oh, and I'm like, oh no. But I
- 7:06Speaker 1: was like, I think she had a knee jerk reaction,
- 7:08Speaker 1: and I get it, but you know, it's also kind
- 7:11Speaker 1: of important for maybe her to know that he's now
- 7:14Speaker 1: hitting up everybody from rehab and sending them text But
- 7:17Speaker 1: I did feel bad that she had to hear that.
- 7:19Speaker 2: Oh was.
- 7:21Speaker 3: The thing that was kind of fascinating was we got
- 7:25Speaker 3: to see, like Brittany did have his number, you know,
- 7:29Speaker 3: the second she knew his game. He's gonna pummel her
- 7:33Speaker 3: with mean shit and he's going to try and warm
- 7:36Speaker 3: up the rest of the group so they feel you.
- 7:39Speaker 1: Know, had Oh, you're so right, And I.
- 7:42Speaker 3: Just it was eye opening for me because as far
- 7:45Speaker 3: even as bad as it's gotten and our thread Angela,
- 7:50Speaker 3: oh is she she is on Jackson's a you know,
- 7:54Speaker 3: she has him dead to rights. I have understood he's
- 7:58Speaker 3: a piece of shit, but it's taken me that moment.
- 8:02Speaker 3: I fully had it.
- 8:05Speaker 1: The texting, the texting, you mean.
- 8:07Speaker 3: The manipulation, How deep and dark and like suffocating that
- 8:13Speaker 3: must be for her.
- 8:15Speaker 2: I agree.
- 8:16Speaker 1: Now I think that it all is coming to fruition
- 8:19Speaker 1: for us too, Dana, to jump on your bandwagon of like,
- 8:24Speaker 1: we didn't really know how bad it was because we
- 8:27Speaker 1: it was never out in the open. We have our assumptions,
- 8:29Speaker 1: We assumed all the things that he was doing, but
- 8:33Speaker 1: we didn't actually know the level of abuse, a mental
- 8:39Speaker 1: abuse that he was doing to her. You know, so
- 8:42Speaker 1: it's really shocking to see because you feel like you're
- 8:45Speaker 1: that person. We're getting to see all of it, which
- 8:48Speaker 1: is kind of amazing.
- 8:50Speaker 4: Yeah, we're getting we're finally seeing everything, and it's pouring
- 8:54Speaker 4: out of us what we knew all along during Pump
- 8:59Speaker 4: vander Pump Rule and the first few episodes or first
- 9:02Speaker 4: season of this. It's worse than I thought, and I
- 9:05Speaker 4: agree with you, Dianna. When I saw those, I was like, oh,
- 9:08Speaker 4: he's truly an absolute piece of shit, Like he send
- 9:13Speaker 4: me it's abusive to send those mean texts, and you know,
- 9:16Speaker 4: I have been privated this from people in my life,
- 9:20Speaker 4: knowing that they were harassed that way via text. It's
- 9:24Speaker 4: so jarring and upsetting. And it would have been nice
- 9:28Speaker 4: if he would have just been there and maybe just
- 9:30Speaker 4: not texted at all, would have really shown some maturity
- 9:33Speaker 4: or maybe just a text to her that says I.
- 9:36Speaker 4: But all his text were so manipulu. Someonere like, just
- 9:38Speaker 4: let me know I'm doing a good job, and then
- 9:40Speaker 4: other ones are like you fucking bitch.
- 9:42Speaker 2: Like it's just like it was insane.
- 9:44Speaker 1: Yeah, he would say. In the after show, he said
- 9:46Speaker 1: that he was like I'd be in therapy and I'd
- 9:48Speaker 1: be doing all the work, and i'd be and i'd
- 9:50Speaker 1: be realizing things and all this stuff, and then i'd
- 9:52Speaker 1: come out and I'd have fifteen minutes and then I'd
- 9:54Speaker 1: realize other things, and then I would just do that
- 9:56Speaker 1: and like, this is so un well. What an unwell
- 10:00Speaker 1: situation for to put yourself in to keep that phone.
- 10:03Speaker 1: And it just goes to show those the program you
- 10:07Speaker 1: have to really follow it in order for it to work,
- 10:10Speaker 1: to not hurt you as the person who's coming in
- 10:14Speaker 1: for help, but really to protect people on the outside.
- 10:18Speaker 4: Yeah, and if you go to rehab for someone else,
- 10:22Speaker 4: this is the lore of it, it's not ever working.
- 10:26Speaker 4: You have to go for yourself. You cannot do it.
- 10:29Speaker 4: You see it on intervention all the time. They they
- 10:32Speaker 4: they well that's not true. No, I'm going to gate myself.
- 10:35Speaker 4: Sometimes on the shelf they're like, fine, I'll go for you, mom,
- 10:37Speaker 4: and then they get there and three months later they're like.
- 10:40Speaker 3: No, I can't.
- 10:41Speaker 4: I was subject dum.
- 10:44Speaker 2: You know, so maybe not. But like he's doing it
- 10:46Speaker 2: for TV, right, he's just doing it for TV.
- 10:51Speaker 4: He's doing it because he fell back into a corner.
- 10:54Speaker 4: He doesn't really think he did anything wrong. He's still
- 10:57Speaker 4: talking about the Julian naked pictures, so because he's not
- 11:00Speaker 4: learning and growing.
- 11:02Speaker 3: And the other layer that was clear last night is
- 11:06Speaker 3: that this is also he's been taken out of the
- 11:10Speaker 3: TV show. And I will give him credit for this
- 11:13Speaker 3: that he pushed and created, Like I gotta give it.
- 11:16Speaker 3: I think this was powered by Jack's this program that
- 11:20Speaker 3: we're watching. Yes, so, and here's why it happened. You know,
- 11:25Speaker 3: I really feel that. I feel like, without knowing, you're
- 11:30Speaker 3: you're a star, you know, and he's pushed for this.
- 11:33Speaker 3: So now these nair Dwells are you know, feasting on
- 11:40Speaker 3: the fruit on the jail?
- 11:41Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you are so right. Okay, I didn't really
- 11:45Speaker 1: take it to that level, but when you break it
- 11:47Speaker 1: down like that, it makes so much more sense because
- 11:50Speaker 1: we also don't realize somebody sent this to me and
- 11:53Speaker 1: thank you Darling who one of the Darlings sent this
- 11:55Speaker 1: and said, did we know that like all these people
- 11:58Speaker 1: from the valley were Jackson Britain's wedding and I would
- 12:01Speaker 1: have never known they were circling them in the crowd.
- 12:03Speaker 1: I don't know who found this, but like Janet and
- 12:06Speaker 1: Jason were there, Jesse and Michelle were there, so like
- 12:10Speaker 1: and I'm I'm sure Zach was there because he's friends
- 12:13Speaker 1: with Britney. Okay, oh he was standing up like he
- 12:17Speaker 1: officiated it. So it's like, you know, it is absolutely true. Uh,
- 12:24Speaker 1: this show was probably on the bubble for a while
- 12:29Speaker 1: because after vander Pump Rules, like they started to realize like, oh,
- 12:33Speaker 1: these people are moving I'm sorry. During vander Pump Rules
- 12:36Speaker 1: they started to realize these people are moving on to
- 12:38Speaker 1: the valley, and I think they had a pin and
- 12:41Speaker 1: a lot of people to get vander Pump Valley going,
- 12:44Speaker 1: which was I think the show that they were. I
- 12:47Speaker 1: could be wrong, but anyway, or maybe that was just
- 12:49Speaker 1: the working title, but it's.
- 12:50Speaker 2: A good good suspicion though, Amy.
- 12:52Speaker 1: So the fact that all these other people kind of
- 12:55Speaker 1: stayed on Pump Rules, like La La and Sheena and
- 13:00Speaker 1: not around, so it's like they couldn't really get the
- 13:04Speaker 1: rest of the crew in there. So really, Jack's is
- 13:07Speaker 1: the kingpin and the person that everybody knows that brings
- 13:10Speaker 1: it together. And that said, we know how he takes
- 13:13Speaker 1: ownership over shows. I mean, the actual last episode of
- 13:18Speaker 1: Jack's is on vander pump Rules is him arguing with
- 13:21Speaker 1: Lisa where he calls Vander pump rules. He says, my show,
- 13:25Speaker 1: my show, So I hear you about that. And then
- 13:29Speaker 1: the other thing I was gonna mention is that he's
- 13:32Speaker 1: so mad that he's not shooting. He's so god mad.
- 13:37Speaker 1: Like that's the rage right there. Yes, that's the ego.
- 13:42Speaker 3: And that's where the boys coming in and being like,
- 13:45Speaker 3: and let's holt wish Jacks well or his time. You know,
- 13:49Speaker 3: it's like they're also like, he we're here because of him.
- 13:53Speaker 3: You know, yes, he's a monster, but we are here
- 13:56Speaker 3: because of him. So if we could just use the
- 13:59Speaker 3: airtime and shoot him a little something something, you.
- 14:02Speaker 1: Know, shoot him a little you know, a little that's
- 14:06Speaker 1: for you, Jacks.
- 14:08Speaker 3: Yeah, give him a little airhorn for his life. You know,
- 14:14Speaker 3: get your life, Jacks, Get your life, Jacks.
- 14:18Speaker 1: I mean I've seen it personally, you know, like you
- 14:24Speaker 1: see narcissism, narcissists in their element, and it's such a
- 14:31Speaker 1: personality disorder that that in many ways can't be touched
- 14:35Speaker 1: by like medication. It's really difficult to like to get
- 14:38Speaker 1: to that. And that's what's tough, you know, you know,
- 14:41Speaker 1: in the after show. He was speaking some truth here
- 14:44Speaker 1: and there, like little tiny morsels, and I just thought,
- 14:46Speaker 1: wouldn't that be amazing if like he just had some
- 14:49Speaker 1: sort of I mean, way beyond where he's at now,
- 14:54Speaker 1: but like if he could just get to be a
- 14:57Speaker 1: whole different person in some way, and then you would
- 15:00Speaker 1: see that we would all have space in our hearts
- 15:03Speaker 1: to welcome him back in if we saw a complete
- 15:06Speaker 1: different Jack. That was like, you know what, I'm not
- 15:08Speaker 1: going to do t EV right now. I'm going to
- 15:10Speaker 1: get my life together, but you know, and we hope
- 15:13Speaker 1: for that. But listen, his team of people thought it
- 15:16Speaker 1: was a great idea to put to start a podcast
- 15:20Speaker 1: and then go on tour with his podcast right now
- 15:24Speaker 1: during this season when this abuse is being exposed, and
- 15:28Speaker 1: so quietly each venue has canceled him to come to
- 15:33Speaker 1: their venue, which has left him with no tour.
- 15:36Speaker 4: Yeah, now's about when he's probably going to really start
- 15:39Speaker 4: to heal. This could be the rock rock bottom. But Amy,
- 15:44Speaker 4: what you've said is so true. And again I refer
- 15:47Speaker 4: back to one of my favorite shows, Intervention, that I
- 15:50Speaker 4: rode back in the day over and over again. God
- 15:54Speaker 4: bless ed, God bless and thank you. I work, the
- 15:58Speaker 4: steps and so basic. The thing I noticed about intervention.
- 16:02Speaker 4: I've actually talked to people about this before.
- 16:04Speaker 1: By Intervention has reached this exact podcast every single week, but.
- 16:11Speaker 2: And my one woman show Intervention fun so. But anyway,
- 16:17Speaker 2: what I'm trying to say is.
- 16:19Speaker 4: The ones who have the worst time are the people
- 16:22Speaker 4: who have an addiction and are narcissists. Their interventions are
- 16:27Speaker 4: the most frustrating ones, and they're the ones.
- 16:31Speaker 2: The end. They're often the ones who have left.
- 16:36Speaker 1: And Jamie might I ask, how do you know? Is
- 16:41Speaker 1: it the counselor that's calling them that they have narcissistic
- 16:44Speaker 1: tendencies or is it the person themselves? How do you
- 16:47Speaker 1: identify that or are you just making an assumption?
- 16:50Speaker 2: It's my own four eyes?
- 16:52Speaker 1: Okay, all right, that's fou.
- 16:54Speaker 4: I can tell because of how I can tell, because
- 17:00Speaker 4: of how how it's all about them in their addiction,
- 17:05Speaker 4: and it's all about them during the intervention, and they
- 17:08Speaker 4: don't take any accountability and everything is everybody else's fault.
- 17:11Speaker 1: But isn't that every character Okay, necessarily peel it back
- 17:16Speaker 1: to just.
- 17:18Speaker 2: Well, I think it's like this.
- 17:20Speaker 4: I would watch the show and some of them I'd
- 17:22Speaker 4: be like I think they're gonna go for it, and
- 17:24Speaker 4: the ones who are super just they're.
- 17:29Speaker 2: Some of them. I hate to say it.
- 17:30Speaker 4: I was like, I don't think it's gonna work, and
- 17:31Speaker 4: very rarely was I wrong, minus Duster Girl, which is
- 17:35Speaker 4: why she's so famous.
- 17:36Speaker 1: Here we go, we're back. Actually, okay, I'm just tell you.
- 17:43Speaker 2: Narcissists are hard to change, is what I mean.
- 17:45Speaker 1: They're Yeah, I hear what you're saying. Yeah, it truly
- 17:49Speaker 1: truly is. By the way, the reunion, you know they
- 17:53Speaker 1: did the reunion, did you guys see the seating chart
- 17:56Speaker 1: for this yes, fight, Yeah, I was fused. Okay about
- 18:01Speaker 1: the seeding chart. Do you remember Danna?
- 18:04Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm trying. I feel like I'm remembering Michelle.
- 18:09Speaker 1: So far down it.
- 18:11Speaker 3: Was like, huh laughs through me a little bit, you know. Yeah, guys, Yeah,
- 18:19Speaker 3: I don't know what. I am taken with Michelle in
- 18:22Speaker 3: the strangest way. I can't even articulate what's happening between us,
- 18:27Speaker 3: but there's something happening. I think that the way she cries,
- 18:35Speaker 3: it's a looks like it's a laugh. It looks like
- 18:38Speaker 3: we're going to be giggling, and then we're moving into
- 18:42Speaker 3: you know she's like and there's something so lady like
- 18:47Speaker 3: about it, where my cry is so devastatingly ugly, you
- 18:54Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like everyone it's it's not that.
- 18:58Speaker 3: And I think I'm so taken with her cry and
- 19:02Speaker 3: the way she moves into it that she has my attention.
- 19:07Speaker 1: She does too, and she has my attention, well actually
- 19:09Speaker 1: know as my attention the production who sat her at
- 19:13Speaker 1: the very end of the couch across from Zach Jesse.
- 19:19Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Uh, oh my god? Where Why do I
- 19:22Speaker 1: always forget his name? Niah, Danny Dan, Jana Rita, Dan
- 19:28Speaker 1: Rita from Santa Clarita.
- 19:30Speaker 2: What you give me the picture? I'm just wondering where
- 19:33Speaker 2: Jasmine is.
- 19:34Speaker 1: Jasmine is right before Zach, so Jasmine is up a match,
- 19:40Speaker 1: so like Janet is up next to Jesse, it goes
- 19:46Speaker 1: Jack's Jesse, Janet Jason Jasmine. Wow, everyone has Jay names.
- 19:53Speaker 1: I didn't realize that.
- 19:54Speaker 4: And Zach okay, and then on the other side, gotta
- 19:58Speaker 4: flip it with your finger.
- 20:00Speaker 1: Sorry, I had it zoomed in. I got it on
- 20:02Speaker 1: zoom Okay.
- 20:02Speaker 4: You got a credit card wallet on yours?
- 20:05Speaker 3: A nice reveal. We didn't know.
- 20:07Speaker 2: We didn't know that not a credit card insight.
- 20:10Speaker 1: Okay, gorgeous, it's not the credit I'm sorry, you're right,
- 20:15Speaker 1: it is.
- 20:15Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, this side, I'm shocked. Yeah, Michelle is.
- 20:20Speaker 1: It goes at the top. It's Brittany Kristen that Luke, Nia,
- 20:29Speaker 1: I don't get this, and then Daniel Daniel rita.
- 20:35Speaker 3: Michelle before anyone is strange.
- 20:38Speaker 1: You know Nia.
- 20:41Speaker 3: That she's nothing.
- 20:42Speaker 1: Also, I just want to mention that you guys called
- 20:45Speaker 1: out my credit card phone holder, but I didn't get
- 20:49Speaker 1: it for the credit card and I never use it
- 20:50Speaker 1: for the credit card holder. It is for it's a
- 20:54Speaker 1: magnetic thing that I stick on my dashboard thing and
- 20:58Speaker 1: you can pull this out and you and it makes
- 21:00Speaker 1: a stand automatically. Just want you guys to know what
- 21:04Speaker 1: kind of person I am, and that like, I'm not
- 21:08Speaker 1: going to be putting my credit cards in my phone.
- 21:10Speaker 1: Not that there's anything wrong with that, but I'm just
- 21:12Speaker 1: not that person. Okay. I don't know why I felt
- 21:14Speaker 1: that was necessary to speak on.
- 21:16Speaker 3: I have, but you have, Jamie.
- 21:18Speaker 1: Oh, that's cute. It's like a ring. It looks like
- 21:20Speaker 1: an iud no on your phone, but.
- 21:23Speaker 3: You can charge nicely with it if you have the
- 21:26Speaker 3: right devices it's more than a ring, just saying it's what.
- 21:29Speaker 1: I really wish there were an ad because I could
- 21:32Speaker 1: use some ads about now. But but you know what, honestly,
- 21:36Speaker 1: and on that note with this podcast, you know when
- 21:39Speaker 1: I read ads like, that's how I make my living.
- 21:42Speaker 1: So so please be patient about it when they pop up.
- 21:45Speaker 1: And that's all I have to say about VYA. Okay,
- 21:47Speaker 1: let's go back to this because we're not taking a
- 21:49Speaker 1: break right now, but I wanted to talk about. Okay,
- 21:55Speaker 1: so we're driving up to Santa Barbara. What this is important?
- 22:02Speaker 1: What did you guys think of Jesse's wine shirt? And
- 22:04Speaker 1: let's take Jesse the person out of the equation.
- 22:08Speaker 4: I liked it five stars, five grades. He's very fashionable.
- 22:13Speaker 4: But when he came out with his hat, body out
- 22:16Speaker 4: of his jacket, I was ready to puke and die.
- 22:19Speaker 4: That was so annoying. When he was like, I was like, yeah,
- 22:23Speaker 4: a clue, what are you doing?
- 22:25Speaker 1: Yeah? And and those underpants like at the end, those
- 22:28Speaker 1: under under rufs, like what were we looking at? Were
- 22:32Speaker 1: those just like briefs? Because they looked a little like
- 22:36Speaker 1: a bag yar brief almost like a bloomer or like
- 22:38Speaker 1: a you know, I was confused. Yeah, you know what
- 22:42Speaker 1: I mean? Do you don't have talking about when he was.
- 22:45Speaker 4: His underwear lye in six months Jesse's Bloomers?
- 22:52Speaker 1: Yeah, but does anybody? Am I confused?
- 22:55Speaker 4: No?
- 22:55Speaker 3: It was a strange undergarment. It was almost like some
- 22:58Speaker 3: warmon prayer prayer underwear.
- 23:00Speaker 1: Okay, now, yes, right right? Is that what we were
- 23:05Speaker 1: looking everybody?
- 23:06Speaker 3: We were doing a new vertical?
- 23:08Speaker 1: Okay, they were pretty piked up, and they were they
- 23:12Speaker 1: were blousey, you know, they were like kind of like
- 23:15Speaker 1: I want to say, they were pockets in there. I
- 23:17Speaker 1: don't know.
- 23:19Speaker 4: Cut to Brett getting twelve pairs of those for Christmas.
- 23:25Speaker 1: Underwear, like it looked like he was he was getting
- 23:30Speaker 1: ready to dress to fight in the Civil War. Like
- 23:32Speaker 1: that's maybe what because back then they didn't have elastic
- 23:35Speaker 1: or any kind of you know way to you know,
- 23:38Speaker 1: or were their safety pins? You know, I don't know
- 23:40Speaker 1: what was Am I the only one? Okay?
- 23:43Speaker 3: Just okay, you're dead on, You're on.
- 23:47Speaker 1: Maybe that's why he was so mad that the cameras
- 23:49Speaker 1: were in there and they caught him in his Bloomers.
- 23:51Speaker 3: Yeah, bloom like Bloomers.
- 23:54Speaker 2: Maybe they added button patting, you.
- 23:56Speaker 3: Know okay, yeah, you know him coming out with the
- 24:01Speaker 3: chest like but where his so in his head, his
- 24:07Speaker 3: ex is there, and he's like this is I work
- 24:11Speaker 3: really hard on my body, you know, and I'm going
- 24:15Speaker 3: to give I imagine that the women of Bravo are
- 24:19Speaker 3: going to swoon, the comments are going to is that
- 24:22Speaker 3: where like he in his head thought we were all
- 24:24Speaker 3: gonna go oh, you know like when the Bachelor does
- 24:29Speaker 3: It's like, that's not this If we don't do that
- 24:32Speaker 3: on lab shows?
- 24:33Speaker 2: Why did I find it so jarring? So upsetting? When
- 24:36Speaker 2: I saw it? I was like, oh, like I was,
- 24:38Speaker 2: I was clutching.
- 24:39Speaker 1: Which was more jarring. That are the underpants because I
- 24:42Speaker 1: think the underwear was.
- 24:44Speaker 4: I thought the chest was okay, called for it, okay,
- 24:46Speaker 4: super strange yeah.
- 24:48Speaker 2: And also then they started talking about his nipples. I
- 24:50Speaker 2: was like, what is it?
- 24:51Speaker 1: I know, yeah, that was strange.
- 24:55Speaker 3: It was like a plastic sheine to it. I don't know.
- 24:59Speaker 3: There was something that was too It was all one color,
- 25:04Speaker 3: like it was too uniform color.
- 25:09Speaker 4: Yes, now, now, might I just recount a different time
- 25:13Speaker 4: when Jacks ripped his shirt off to go fight that
- 25:15Speaker 4: guy in the parking lot. I was like, whatever it was,
- 25:19Speaker 4: I was like, yes, like, guy, walk him up. I
- 25:23Speaker 4: don't know what it is about Jesse. He's so pathetic.
- 25:26Speaker 4: He so still wants Michelle to like him, and she
- 25:29Speaker 4: hates every essence of his bones. She hates him to
- 25:34Speaker 4: the course. Everything he does just drives her crazy.
- 25:38Speaker 2: But when he came out like that, I was like, Okay,
- 25:40Speaker 2: nobody cares.
- 25:42Speaker 1: When he was like, if Michelle's so happy, she wouldn't
- 25:45Speaker 1: be always saying to everybody how happy she is. And
- 25:48Speaker 1: then it cuts to her and she's like, I'm just
- 25:50Speaker 1: so happy. Burn burn, burn burn burn.
- 25:55Speaker 2: I also taught her on that one he got out.
- 25:57Speaker 1: And another you know little dj or horn for Jesse
- 26:01Speaker 1: other than his shirt, and that moment was that, you know,
- 26:04Speaker 1: he's a real estate agent. And I did appreciate him
- 26:07Speaker 1: walking us through the Spanish hacienda and the styling of it,
- 26:10Speaker 1: and I really appreciated that, and I did. I loved it.
- 26:12Speaker 1: I love it.
- 26:13Speaker 3: Beautiful, gorgeous.
- 26:14Speaker 2: That's a beautiful, huge, huge.
- 26:16Speaker 1: Gosh, it was so nice. Now, I was like thrown
- 26:20Speaker 1: off by the remote control car racing thing that they
- 26:23Speaker 1: went so all out for that. Ah, do you know,
- 26:28Speaker 1: thoughts what no?
- 26:29Speaker 3: I mean? And this you know, we we just walked
- 26:32Speaker 3: into a gorgeous home on the water. We don't even
- 26:36Speaker 3: have to we didn't even like pour a glass, and
- 26:39Speaker 3: we're out with the nonsense, with nonsense, Like I just
- 26:44Speaker 3: I hated it so much.
- 26:47Speaker 4: Hey, some of what I some of what I hate
- 26:49Speaker 4: the most about Love the Lover's Island that you made
- 26:53Speaker 4: me watch for six months. Where those stupid yeah, those
- 26:58Speaker 4: stupid like like those those challenges they'd have to do.
- 27:02Speaker 4: I'm like, this is the dumbest thing. Get me back,
- 27:04Speaker 4: and how they're fighting and sleeping on that outside bed.
- 27:06Speaker 4: I don't want to see.
- 27:07Speaker 1: This coming back June sixth or something. Oh, it's like
- 27:13Speaker 1: beginning of June. But yeah, I'm very excited about it.
- 27:16Speaker 4: Maybe I'll jump in at the right time so I
- 27:18Speaker 4: won't be stuck watching it eight months after you guys
- 27:21Speaker 4: forgot you.
- 27:21Speaker 1: Better Jamie, because I'm we can't go through that again.
- 27:25Speaker 4: That was so hard on all of us. I'm like,
- 27:26Speaker 4: Curdell's so nice. You guys are like, who are you
- 27:28Speaker 4: talking about? But I also want to say something about
- 27:31Speaker 4: the car racing. When they were all drinking at the house,
- 27:34Speaker 4: I was in my head, I'm going, in what world
- 27:38Speaker 4: are they about to get behind the wheel together? So
- 27:41Speaker 4: I actually thought the show was biffing it. I was like,
- 27:43Speaker 4: are you crazy? Like they all were drinking ginking Jesse.
- 27:46Speaker 4: Those last lines are I'm two bottles of prosecco in
- 27:48Speaker 4: and I'm like, they're going.
- 27:49Speaker 2: To a race track. I'm so right surprised by the
- 27:55Speaker 2: remote control car.
- 27:56Speaker 1: Yeah, they took us on a ride there, and I
- 27:59Speaker 1: do love a remote control car, probably more than I
- 28:02Speaker 1: ever thought I would. And this discovery happened about a
- 28:05Speaker 1: year ago because like, Maddie got a remote control car
- 28:08Speaker 1: for a birthday present or something, and so we were
- 28:11Speaker 1: outside and I was like taking it for a spin.
- 28:13Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is fun. So we've taken
- 28:17Speaker 1: we have two now, and then we take them around
- 28:20Speaker 1: the neighborhood and it's just like so I would have
- 28:23Speaker 1: really loved that, but not the way that they did it,
- 28:26Speaker 1: And and I don't think it's good enough for like
- 28:29Speaker 1: an event.
- 28:31Speaker 4: It was strange they all wanted to moving on. Can
- 28:34Speaker 4: I just say that you're such a good mom. I
- 28:36Speaker 4: love how you are so interactive with Maddie. Everything you
- 28:39Speaker 4: do is I'm a fun.
- 28:40Speaker 1: Fun mom.
- 28:41Speaker 4: I am assun she does because you and are fun loving,
- 28:48Speaker 4: so yeah, because.
- 28:50Speaker 1: We're immature, so we like, you know, we're reliving well
- 28:52Speaker 1: like most parents, you release my childhood.
- 28:56Speaker 2: Yeah, very immature as well and fun.
- 29:00Speaker 3: That's fun.
- 29:01Speaker 1: So Jesse told Jacks that they're going to Santa Barbara
- 29:05Speaker 1: and they're all mad at him and be like why
- 29:06Speaker 1: did you do that, which is partially why I think
- 29:09Speaker 1: that he was rage texting. But then also what comes
- 29:13Speaker 1: out this weekend is TMZ is reporting that he's in treatment,
- 29:17Speaker 1: and so Brittany's like, yeah, do you doubt say this
- 29:20Speaker 1: information to Jakes?
- 29:21Speaker 5: Do you doubt?
- 29:22Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, like, if he has his phone, of
- 29:25Speaker 1: course he's gonna discover this, Like there's no way around this.
- 29:30Speaker 1: And oh my god, poor Brittany.
- 29:32Speaker 5: He's just he's just texted me and rage it it
- 29:36Speaker 5: texted and Reigie.
- 29:38Speaker 1: Oh, felt so bad for her. So now Jesse is
- 29:42Speaker 1: talking talking to Janet and Brittany about his quote like
- 29:48Speaker 1: like girlfriend, but he's saying now they're not, they're not,
- 29:51Speaker 1: they're just friends or he's saying friend, right, And Jesse says,
- 29:56Speaker 1: you're bullying her and you told people to block her,
- 29:59Speaker 1: and he's saying that to Janet She's like, oh no,
- 30:01Speaker 1: I didn't tell people. I just told Jason. And then
- 30:05Speaker 1: she's like, I've said wonderful things about her.
- 30:09Speaker 5: And then Brittany's like, I say, she's very nasty. Be
- 30:11Speaker 5: but the fact that she was sitting later to Bajilla,
- 30:14Speaker 5: it was disgusted. The fact that you would low that, Jaycy,
- 30:16Speaker 5: I just can't believe it.
- 30:17Speaker 1: And then Jesse is just like, you know, he's had
- 30:23Speaker 1: it with Janet because because of everything that she's like,
- 30:27Speaker 1: stop defending her. Then she's threatening like lawsuits. And then
- 30:32Speaker 1: he's like, well, your friend shouldn't shouldn't have been cheating
- 30:36Speaker 1: on me for two years, but she did. And then
- 30:39Speaker 1: what'd you guys think about Janet's reaction? Honestly, if I
- 30:42Speaker 1: was married to you, i'd be cheating on you too.
- 30:45Speaker 2: Boom, Yeah, it's let's have an aired torn for that.
- 30:50Speaker 3: Go ahead, Janet.
- 30:51Speaker 1: Okay, Janet, you got us last week. Pull us over
- 30:54Speaker 1: your side a little bit when you're a dave and
- 30:56Speaker 1: busters and would that comeback? We like that?
- 30:59Speaker 2: Pretty spicy? Yeah? I like that too.
- 31:01Speaker 4: And you know what, he's despicable. He makes bad choices.
- 31:06Speaker 4: And Michelle's not my favorite either. I will say I
- 31:09Speaker 4: was looking at some comments on TikTok and people don't
- 31:12Speaker 4: like Michelle and that makes me feel bad because I
- 31:14Speaker 4: kind of feel like I don't want to be on
- 31:16Speaker 4: that bandwagon.
- 31:17Speaker 1: But you don't like Michelle.
- 31:18Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't wait.
- 31:20Speaker 1: I want to talk about We're going to take a
- 31:21Speaker 1: quick break when we come back. I want to talk
- 31:23Speaker 1: about whether you think that she cheated on Jesse with
- 31:26Speaker 1: Aaron in this whole honey situation, because we didn't mention
- 31:28Speaker 1: that last week. So let's take a quick break and
- 31:31Speaker 1: we'll be right back. Okay, we're back talking the valley.
- 31:38Speaker 1: I'm with Deanna Chang and Jamie Moyer. So last week
- 31:42Speaker 1: we got this whole thing about she gets her honey
- 31:44Speaker 1: near Runyon, I think, and Aaron sells honey and Jesse's
- 31:48Speaker 1: convinced that Michelle cheated on him. Let's start with Danna.
- 31:54Speaker 1: Do you think that Michelle?
- 31:56Speaker 2: Yes?
- 31:56Speaker 1: Did you Jamie? Do you think that Michelle cheated?
- 32:05Speaker 2: Yes?
- 32:09Speaker 1: I co signed sign both. Yeah.
- 32:12Speaker 4: Can I just say though, that putting on makeup to
- 32:15Speaker 4: go get him would definitely mean she liked him and
- 32:17Speaker 4: had a crush on him. I think there's that world
- 32:20Speaker 4: as well, where she was flirting with him, and she
- 32:23Speaker 4: just thought he was so cute, so that part of it, Yes,
- 32:26Speaker 4: didn't he say she was gone for a long time, though.
- 32:29Speaker 2: This isn't this week last week.
- 32:31Speaker 4: I don't know that she like went to get honey
- 32:32Speaker 4: for three hours or something. But I think she cheated
- 32:40Speaker 4: on him for sure. My question is was it with Aaron?
- 32:44Speaker 4: Because I just think she cheated on him in general.
- 32:46Speaker 1: Well, his reasoning is if it wasn't with Aaron, or
- 32:49Speaker 1: if it was, but that she cheated on him twice
- 32:54Speaker 1: or just once with someone else is what you might
- 32:57Speaker 1: be saying.
- 32:58Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, listen, she she all but said how
- 33:01Speaker 3: many times has she been accused of cheating? She really
- 33:04Speaker 3: hasn't in my recollection, denied it, you know, and she said, well,
- 33:11Speaker 3: you didn't look at me, you didn't touch me, and
- 33:12Speaker 3: you didn't she connect with me. She was like, that
- 33:15Speaker 3: is why I've cheated on.
- 33:16Speaker 1: You, you know, but said I cheated on you.
- 33:18Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, Yeah, so true.
- 33:22Speaker 3: I mean, if someone said out loud that I slept
- 33:26Speaker 3: with somebody for X amount of dollars in a group thread,
- 33:29Speaker 3: I would say the words. Now I'm not saying she
- 33:32Speaker 3: did that, but to not get the words out of
- 33:35Speaker 3: your face. I did not sleep with someone for X
- 33:40Speaker 3: amount of dollars. I was like, gosh, could you, I mean, yeah,
- 33:44Speaker 3: would you say it?
- 33:46Speaker 1: She just she really just cries and says, he's so
- 33:48Speaker 1: such a monster. I hate him so much. I want
- 33:50Speaker 1: to get away from him. He ruined my life. Type
- 33:52Speaker 1: of thing. That's about it, which is a lot, but
- 33:55Speaker 1: it does say something.
- 33:58Speaker 2: What if she did do that?
- 33:59Speaker 4: My good this listen, you know, wasn't it twelve hundred,
- 34:05Speaker 4: fifteen hundred, fifteen fifteen fifteen hundred?
- 34:09Speaker 3: Do we think that's a fair I feel like I'm
- 34:11Speaker 3: worth more.
- 34:12Speaker 1: Oh, that's not a lot at all, not at all?
- 34:14Speaker 1: This amount?
- 34:15Speaker 3: Okay?
- 34:16Speaker 4: If yeah, it seems more like this. Maybe this is
- 34:20Speaker 4: where this is what I think. She's sleeping with a
- 34:23Speaker 4: billionaire and she cashed a check for fifteen hundred because
- 34:27Speaker 4: he said go get yourself a new product, purse or something,
- 34:30Speaker 4: and Jesse, yeah, was privy to the amount, and then
- 34:34Speaker 4: just like you cheated at me.
- 34:36Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that, Like this, this lover wrote a check,
- 34:41Speaker 1: so okay, obviously, like sixties, seventies or eighties, I still
- 34:48Speaker 1: write checks. No, No, I'm sorry, Jamie, No, I mean
- 34:52Speaker 1: not a lot of people write checks, is all I'm saying.
- 34:55Speaker 3: But if you're trying to side an affair, a check
- 34:59Speaker 3: is a tougher.
- 35:00Speaker 1: Oh you're right, you're right. You just like sent do
- 35:02Speaker 1: it to cash. But then how would Jesse know about
- 35:04Speaker 1: it exactly?
- 35:08Speaker 2: That's good?
- 35:10Speaker 1: Okay, well, Zell, Zell, he's gonna find out. Yeah for sure. Yeah, okay,
- 35:18Speaker 1: So now what did you guys say? Gray, So, Zach
- 35:20Speaker 1: and Janet finally make up for the most part, and
- 35:24Speaker 1: Zach is saying that he was blackout drunk when he
- 35:27Speaker 1: said that. Janet still, you know, is upset. She's willing
- 35:31Speaker 1: to move on, and when she said that we don't
- 35:34Speaker 1: have to be best friends, he was like like, he
- 35:37Speaker 1: was like, oh no, that's the kiss of death, because
- 35:39Speaker 1: that's what you say to somebody when you really haven't
- 35:42Speaker 1: moved on. Yeah, we don't have to be. So she
- 35:44Speaker 1: is definitely not over it.
- 35:50Speaker 4: I love that sound, but she she to me she
- 35:54Speaker 4: is still mad and will probably forever be. This is
- 35:56Speaker 4: one of those reality TV makeups where it's like, I
- 35:59Speaker 4: guess we probably should so he could go to events
- 36:01Speaker 4: together and stuff, but I still am mad at you
- 36:03Speaker 4: for what you said. Kind of yeah, yeah, yeah, get
- 36:08Speaker 4: over it though a little bit. I mean, I guess
- 36:10Speaker 4: what he did was super insane. But also it's like
- 36:13Speaker 4: he didn't say, you know, I wish death upon your
- 36:17Speaker 4: you know, infant, like he you know.
- 36:19Speaker 1: Well he kind of did. I mean, yeah, you know,
- 36:22Speaker 1: he did kind of say that, Like.
- 36:23Speaker 2: What did he exactly say?
- 36:25Speaker 3: So I have it exactly what we do?
- 36:29Speaker 1: We do well, I think we do. Michelle said if
- 36:33Speaker 1: you don't, if you yell at a woman who's pregnant,
- 36:36Speaker 1: you run the risk of, you know, stressing her out,
- 36:39Speaker 1: and she could and he's like lose the baby. Like
- 36:42Speaker 1: he literally was like I don't care, so he did,
- 36:46Speaker 1: you know, you know, it's bad. I would have a
- 36:49Speaker 1: very tough time bouncing back from it's bad. And and
- 36:53Speaker 1: the fact that he's like I was blackout drunk is
- 36:55Speaker 1: definitely a good excuse and definitely a good reason. However,
- 37:02Speaker 1: he didn't really slur those words, you know what I mean,
- 37:04Speaker 1: So she can't be just an excuse like.
- 37:06Speaker 2: He was in a courtroom making his final Let's think
- 37:13Speaker 2: about the facts of this case.
- 37:18Speaker 3: I mean, I did learn this episode that he's messier
- 37:21Speaker 3: and drunker than I had realized in general, Like I
- 37:25Speaker 3: was like even him. What is the Santa Clarita girl's
- 37:28Speaker 3: name Nia Nia? The way Nia was shot like producers
- 37:33Speaker 3: like bringing Neia, like we she she was? She said
- 37:37Speaker 3: nothing all episode except she was whisked in to deal
- 37:41Speaker 3: with Dodie's ovulation.
- 37:43Speaker 1: She was whisked out.
- 37:44Speaker 3: To hold hands with Zach. She was whisked. I'm like,
- 37:48Speaker 3: she's like a pleasant looking you know, just prop Yeah
- 37:56Speaker 3: she doesn't. It's so strange also.
- 38:02Speaker 1: That that was so much drama darling, Like, I don't
- 38:07Speaker 1: think I could be friends with someone who would be
- 38:09Speaker 1: that dramatic in a moment where it's like you can't
- 38:13Speaker 1: just hold it together for a second. You're like calling
- 38:15Speaker 1: in someone to hold your hand or the Queen of Sheba,
- 38:18Speaker 1: like what is happening? And he was like literally holding
- 38:21Speaker 1: his hand out like you know what to do, and
- 38:23Speaker 1: it's like okay, okay, yeah, you're absolutely right. It was like,
- 38:28Speaker 1: I see your upside.
- 38:31Speaker 2: I do find her.
- 38:33Speaker 4: There is something there with her. I remember saying in
- 38:35Speaker 4: season one to y'all that I thought she was very
- 38:40Speaker 4: cognizant of being on television, that she was one that
- 38:43Speaker 4: was kind of trying to hide things, but also her
- 38:47Speaker 4: wanting so many kids but then we know that we
- 38:49Speaker 4: discussed this last time. She wants so many kids so
- 38:51Speaker 4: she can get her body back one last time, which
- 38:54Speaker 4: is what I say every day. But but yeah, she's
- 38:59Speaker 4: like hiding away. I think either now or she's just
- 39:02Speaker 4: vapid and it's not there, there's nothing there.
- 39:04Speaker 2: But I think she might be hiding a little bit
- 39:06Speaker 2: more than that.
- 39:08Speaker 3: I would agree with that. I think last season we
- 39:10Speaker 3: got a lot more from her. This season, she's really
- 39:14Speaker 3: not said but three sentences all in.
- 39:18Speaker 1: She's on a bench because there's so much other drama
- 39:21Speaker 1: going on with Brittany and Jack's and Michelle and uh.
- 39:27Speaker 2: Jesse naked chest, naked chest.
- 39:30Speaker 1: But and yet Nia and Jesse are higher up on
- 39:33Speaker 1: the couch than Michelle. Oh, maybe something else happens.
- 39:38Speaker 4: Oh maybe she leaves next week, quits next week.
- 39:43Speaker 1: She says something to Brittan Anney or no, Brittany. Yeah,
- 39:46Speaker 1: she says something to Brittany, and Brittany takes offense to it.
- 39:49Speaker 2: Remember I could.
- 39:50Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think that that Michelle is offensive.
- 39:52Speaker 2: She's annoying. I don't, you know, I don't she's.
- 39:55Speaker 1: Call Nia says something to Brittany. Yeah, that's what I'm
- 39:59Speaker 1: saying it was in the tree.
- 40:01Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still talking about so you're.
- 40:04Speaker 5: Going to tell about you say yourself that I've got
- 40:07Speaker 5: through date to boors and I've getting bite takes and
- 40:09Speaker 5: you're gonna like the like they So I don't know
- 40:12Speaker 5: what it is.
- 40:13Speaker 4: Oh I have but maybe I missed that. But but
- 40:16Speaker 4: I want to say, Michelle, I think is cold. So
- 40:19Speaker 4: she could actually all out with everybody? Can we also
- 40:22Speaker 4: talk really quick about how Kristen and Luke are so
- 40:25Speaker 4: perfectly well matched to each other and how they had
- 40:27Speaker 4: sex right before they were going to get the outfits on,
- 40:30Speaker 4: and like, what's that all about? Who has sex in
- 40:32Speaker 4: the middle of the day with cameras all around and
- 40:34Speaker 4: then gets dressed and comes down and everyone's like, did
- 40:37Speaker 4: you wash your hands?
- 40:38Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 40:38Speaker 3: Didn't, she didn't. She didn't throw a brush through her hair.
- 40:43Speaker 3: I would love that they are, but they were.
- 40:47Speaker 1: Also trying to get They're trying to get pregnant. So
- 40:49Speaker 1: you just do it and whenever you can, you know,
- 40:51Speaker 1: you got to get it in there. But her saying
- 40:53Speaker 1: it was the last day of her ovulation, but if
- 40:57Speaker 1: I mean that is really tricky. You know those I
- 41:00Speaker 1: remember taking those ovulation tests and but there's a bigger
- 41:04Speaker 1: window than you think. You know what I'm saying. You
- 41:06Speaker 1: can still get it in there and it can happen.
- 41:08Speaker 1: So don't be don't be shy. Keep going.
- 41:12Speaker 2: The camera's like dead squeaking noises.
- 41:18Speaker 1: On door, Yeah, Luke, And Luke has really made himself
- 41:24Speaker 1: at home, like it's just you guys are my family,
- 41:31Speaker 1: and everyone's like whoa, okay your role Like you don't
- 41:36Speaker 1: even live here.
- 41:37Speaker 4: Jay said, I am going to give you my kidney love, Luke.
- 41:45Speaker 3: Seeing Luke, Jesse and Dody in that car ride up,
- 41:49Speaker 3: I was like, this may be the oddest threesome I
- 41:52Speaker 3: have ever laid eyes on.
- 41:54Speaker 1: And don't think for a second Jesse hated every minute
- 41:57Speaker 1: of it because he did. He's only doing it because
- 41:59Speaker 1: he needs the number.
- 42:01Speaker 2: Yeah it is on his side. Oh so messy.
- 42:07Speaker 1: Then they have Willa the spiritual Guide and embodiment embodiment
- 42:11Speaker 1: guide and sacred photographer.
- 42:16Speaker 6: If I have a photographer, professional photographer, I need them
- 42:19Speaker 6: to be sacred.
- 42:20Speaker 2: I do not like photographer.
- 42:22Speaker 1: I need a sacred photographer photographer. And I wonder what
- 42:27Speaker 1: sacred shots she's gonna take them? I asus, you know,
- 42:31Speaker 1: and I make that's pretty sacred embodiment guide. I love
- 42:40Speaker 1: all the names of these people that they get into
- 42:43Speaker 1: these reality shows because they're all different. They they have
- 42:47Speaker 1: different titles and they're all so specific and they'll pretty
- 42:51Speaker 1: much do the same thing.
- 42:53Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, it's like chakra Chakra leader, embodiment guide.
- 42:58Speaker 1: Deep breathing, put your intentions out there, take some intentions back,
- 43:03Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah.
- 43:05Speaker 3: Call it in.
- 43:06Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm thinking yeah that one on a Salt Lake
- 43:10Speaker 4: City where they're all in that big fight and they're
- 43:12Speaker 4: all outside, I'm laying on yoga mats and.
- 43:15Speaker 2: She's like, everyone laid back and think of your worst nightmare.
- 43:17Speaker 1: Like it's like what, they're already to traumatize them.
- 43:21Speaker 2: Meredith starts crying. Everyone's crying.
- 43:23Speaker 4: She's like, good now, this session of trauma yoga, Matt
- 43:27Speaker 4: sleeping is not done.
- 43:29Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.
- 43:30Speaker 1: If you'd like to upgrade to the build yourself back
- 43:33Speaker 1: up and be able to pull yourself off the ground,
- 43:37Speaker 1: here's my venmo.
- 43:40Speaker 2: That's so true. Yeah, so true.
- 43:43Speaker 4: It's such a mix to have this like photographer mixed
- 43:46Speaker 4: in with Nascar.
- 43:47Speaker 2: It's just also strange.
- 43:48Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so such a weekend. I mean, we're like
- 43:51Speaker 3: a day and a half in and we've done some
- 43:54Speaker 3: strange things. She looks so proud of herself too, like
- 43:57Speaker 3: she was so pleased with the work with the ear,
- 44:02Speaker 3: the earth magic that was you know, happening around her.
- 44:06Speaker 3: You know, a lot of them were just throwing them in. Mean,
- 44:11Speaker 3: this was willy nilly, very uninspired group.
- 44:15Speaker 1: You know, I did appreciate her setting the tone because
- 44:19Speaker 1: when you when you have an introduction, you know it
- 44:22Speaker 1: shouldn't last as long as hers did like it. She
- 44:26Speaker 1: really spoon fed it to them. Hello, my name is
- 44:32Speaker 1: Willa Sarahdophilus. I have been sent here to set up
- 44:40Speaker 1: a guidance for you. I am an embodiment, spiritual, heartfelt, uplifting,
- 44:53Speaker 1: dig oriented, spiritual recalibrator for higher It just went on
- 45:03Speaker 1: and on and on and on.
- 45:06Speaker 4: Well, you know she was probably with her like Guru
- 45:09Speaker 4: Santos or something, and he's like, can you get out there.
- 45:12Speaker 4: You need to make sure that the world knows how
- 45:15Speaker 4: to get in contact with you. You will be on
- 45:18Speaker 4: tele dijon. We'll get out there and tell them.
- 45:23Speaker 2: Who you are. Yeah.
- 45:28Speaker 1: Jason always comes comes through with some positivity, you know,
- 45:32Speaker 1: at the end by saying like pour one out for
- 45:34Speaker 1: you know, our coke addict.
- 45:36Speaker 2: You know, yeah, it's caring for Dannis.
- 45:40Speaker 6: So phoned in right because like I dropped him up
- 45:43Speaker 6: and rehab anyway, got to get back to Jannet, Like
- 45:46Speaker 6: he's just very like even when they were talking to
- 45:50Speaker 6: him about rehab, they're like him and Danny, they're like,
- 45:52Speaker 6: you know you you gotta go.
- 45:54Speaker 4: Probably Danny's like, yeah, maybe you should probably go. Like
- 45:56Speaker 4: I'm like, where's this guy's true friends?
- 45:58Speaker 1: Like, you know, crazy, Well, Julian is getting pictures from Brittany,
- 46:03Speaker 1: so he's certainly not going to be shown up at
- 46:05Speaker 1: that intervention.
- 46:08Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you kind of heard, Like Brittany, it felt
- 46:11Speaker 3: like she heard co parent with new ears. When he
- 46:15Speaker 3: dropped that, she was like, is that me? You know
- 46:17Speaker 3: what I mean? He was like when he said, let's
- 46:20Speaker 3: take a second to uh, you know, give some nice
- 46:24Speaker 3: thoughts to the man that Brittany's co parenting with. Like
- 46:28Speaker 3: he said, he framed it like that, and I saw
- 46:31Speaker 3: it like land on her that that was what they
- 46:35Speaker 3: will be doing going forward.
- 46:37Speaker 1: You know, that's such an every point to that he
- 46:41Speaker 1: kind of reframed it to something that was somehow positive
- 46:44Speaker 1: and also like a point in which they need to
- 46:46Speaker 1: come together, because he could have said there's someone here
- 46:49Speaker 1: who's partner estranged, partner is really struggling and dealing with something,
- 46:56Speaker 1: which would take all the focus off of Brittany in
- 46:59Speaker 1: that moment and it on him being, you know, in trouble,
- 47:02Speaker 1: and like, he could have done it many different ways. Yeah,
- 47:05Speaker 1: but Jesse, when they had the grateful ball type of situation,
- 47:11Speaker 1: Jesse was like, I'm in a very toxic situation right now,
- 47:16Speaker 1: which was a horrible thing to say. And then he's like,
- 47:19Speaker 1: but I'm grateful for grateful for Isabella thriving. And I
- 47:23Speaker 1: thought that was a very great thing to say. But
- 47:26Speaker 1: for him to say toxic situation is immediately argumentative. And
- 47:32Speaker 1: so how is she supposed to How is Michelle supposed
- 47:35Speaker 1: to put any energy out there? I didn't like that,
- 47:38Speaker 1: but she really rose above it and said a great
- 47:40Speaker 1: moment was when we were deciding to have a child together.
- 47:43Speaker 1: I couldn't believe she said that.
- 47:45Speaker 4: Yeah, Wow, and their kid is really cute. She's cute
- 47:50Speaker 4: as hell, She's adorable. Like I obviously they both love
- 47:53Speaker 4: their kid. That's really the only redeeming quality for both
- 47:55Speaker 4: of them in my eyes, is well there's two for him,
- 47:59Speaker 4: the wine shirt, the white flags, and then how nice
- 48:03Speaker 4: he is is of a dad. I thought I liked
- 48:04Speaker 4: the white flags too, although she was like, I'm not
- 48:06Speaker 4: touching that.
- 48:07Speaker 2: Yeah, that was kind of funny. Can't come in unless
- 48:09Speaker 2: you take a white flag.
- 48:11Speaker 4: But yeah, the way those two love their kids is
- 48:14Speaker 4: the only thing that's good about them. So that was interesting.
- 48:17Speaker 4: But yeah, I've in a toxic situation. We might as
- 48:20Speaker 4: well just say my ex is toxic.
- 48:23Speaker 3: Yeah, right right. It's not gonna make any warm feelings
- 48:28Speaker 3: occur in the.
- 48:30Speaker 1: Which is why Zach rolled his eyes at him, and
- 48:33Speaker 1: the fact that Jesse was like, don't roll your eyes
- 48:35Speaker 1: at Michelle like you did at me. I'm like, oh,
- 48:36Speaker 1: here's a big guy. And then Jesse he's like, well
- 48:40Speaker 1: I did, and then he's.
- 48:44Speaker 3: Like Zach is like yeah, and then.
- 48:47Speaker 1: Jesse says like I'll oh roll him. I'll I'll fight
- 48:53Speaker 1: him off a cliff. It's like, get your words, get
- 48:56Speaker 1: your words. He's very very thank you, which is a lot.
- 49:03Speaker 3: I mean it startled me, but I mean, I don't
- 49:06Speaker 3: know you guys, it doesn't sound like I was alarmed
- 49:10Speaker 3: by that wording. Also of a game mapp like, I
- 49:13Speaker 3: don't the whole it threw me. I was like, that's dark.
- 49:18Speaker 3: Did you guys feel dark?
- 49:19Speaker 1: Or that as bad as you?
- 49:21Speaker 2: You did?
- 49:22Speaker 1: But only because I think he was he was mixing
- 49:25Speaker 1: up his words. He wanted to say I'll bury you,
- 49:29Speaker 1: or he wanted to say I'll throw you off a cliff,
- 49:31Speaker 1: and then he put him together and it was just so.
- 49:33Speaker 3: Crazy, Okay, I'll bury you.
- 49:36Speaker 2: Embarrassing.
- 49:37Speaker 1: It was embarrassing. He should have been embarrassed. Get your
- 49:40Speaker 1: insults together, buddy and the.
- 49:42Speaker 2: Ready take an improv class. I've got one on Saturday
- 49:46Speaker 2: this year.
- 49:47Speaker 1: Performed this week at the French Citizen's Magade with Anni Maddox.
- 49:52Speaker 2: Oh.
- 49:52Speaker 1: And then after Michelle says that he doesn't even say
- 49:55Speaker 1: anything and he just walks off. And I just thought,
- 49:58Speaker 1: here you are trying to do the white flag thing,
- 50:00Speaker 1: and you're trying to get somewhere. She just met you,
- 50:05Speaker 1: and yet you're just gonna walk off. I understand it
- 50:07Speaker 1: might be too emotional for you, if that's what you're saying.
- 50:09Speaker 1: But then we saw you were angry, and Zach said
- 50:12Speaker 1: it right. He was like, see see he walked off,
- 50:16Speaker 1: and it's like, yeah, see he walked off right when
- 50:19Speaker 1: she tried to do something nice.
- 50:21Speaker 2: Yep, because he doesn't really want he wants.
- 50:24Speaker 4: I think he wants her back and he wants them
- 50:27Speaker 4: to have a good He wants her to love him,
- 50:29Speaker 4: and anything else is just I either hate you or
- 50:32Speaker 4: I love you. That's it for me and you. He
- 50:34Speaker 4: won't meet her in the middle on any of this.
- 50:36Speaker 4: He's pissed that she has a new boyfriend. He pissed
- 50:38Speaker 4: that she's happy and thriving. It's the war of the roses.
- 50:41Speaker 4: He still loves her. She wants nothing to do with him.
- 50:44Speaker 4: It's the same as the movie.
- 50:46Speaker 1: What do you guys think of Aaron her boyfriend?
- 50:50Speaker 2: He was nice.
- 50:51Speaker 3: I don't know, yeah, zero.
- 50:53Speaker 1: I think he's just a placeholder for her because she's
- 50:59Speaker 1: so try aumatized by Jesse that it could have been anybody.
- 51:03Speaker 2: To be a little bit anybody. I will say this
- 51:06Speaker 2: about him.
- 51:06Speaker 4: I like that he hasn't got on the show and
- 51:09Speaker 4: tried to insert himself to where that he's not going
- 51:12Speaker 4: like I hope I get on the show. He's not
- 51:13Speaker 4: ship talking. He's just being nice and pleasant at events
- 51:15Speaker 4: and nice out of lunch with her. He's not trying
- 51:18Speaker 4: to get on the show. He could care less about
- 51:20Speaker 4: the show? Is the vibe I'm getting.
- 51:21Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 51:22Speaker 1: I'm not sure, only because remember we saw that flashback
- 51:26Speaker 1: of them with the honey in that scene where she
- 51:29Speaker 1: was like taking honey samples from him?
- 51:32Speaker 2: Right, Oh you think I want to get on the show?
- 51:37Speaker 3: Who amongst you know, honey placement and go?
- 51:40Speaker 2: You know.
- 51:43Speaker 3: It seems fair, it doesn't, you know.
- 51:45Speaker 2: What I mean? I love what here's that little thing
- 51:49Speaker 2: at the end.
- 51:49Speaker 4: What I'm saying is he's not at lunch going I'll
- 51:52Speaker 4: fucking kill Jesse. He's just like laughing and nice, like
- 51:55Speaker 4: he's not trying to insert himself.
- 51:57Speaker 2: He's not going like what's a legana? Like?
- 51:59Speaker 4: You know how some of them, uh Dowdy and Kristen
- 52:01Speaker 4: Dowdy's boyfriends especially, they just started inserting them in the show.
- 52:05Speaker 2: So really like Luke.
- 52:11Speaker 1: He's very nice.
- 52:13Speaker 3: But I don't think Luke is very nice. I don't.
- 52:21Speaker 3: I don't like Luke period, do No. I find him
- 52:26Speaker 3: creepy as hell?
- 52:28Speaker 2: I like him? Oh no, what am I? No?
- 52:32Speaker 3: I think he is a very strange man. I mean,
- 52:37Speaker 3: so is she. I just think like I love her
- 52:40Speaker 3: on the show. Please don't get me wrong, but like,
- 52:43Speaker 3: she's an odd duck and so is he, but I
- 52:45Speaker 3: find him to be I want so much less, Luke,
- 52:50Speaker 3: there's no words.
- 52:54Speaker 1: Well, there's a baby coming, so get ready.
- 52:58Speaker 4: I can't baby, he'll baby, He'll pleasant surprised you once
- 53:01Speaker 4: the baby comes. I like him, but I think you're
- 53:03Speaker 4: absolutely right. Where we're meeting in the middle is they're
- 53:06Speaker 4: both odd ducks. They look that way, they talk that way.
- 53:09Speaker 4: There's something about them that feels a little like dirty, dirty.
- 53:14Speaker 1: And only time will tell.
- 53:21Speaker 2: Yeah. Interesting.
- 53:23Speaker 1: Anything else you guys want to say before we wrap
- 53:25Speaker 1: up the valley? Anything else that we missed here?
- 53:29Speaker 2: Another great sod, Another great sod.
- 53:31Speaker 1: Yeah, still upset about the reunion seating unbelievable.
- 53:36Speaker 3: You know, I guess more will be revealed because we
- 53:38Speaker 3: do have some more episodes, So maybe we're being premature
- 53:42Speaker 3: about the seating. How many more apps do we have?
- 53:44Speaker 3: We got to be a fandfall.
- 53:46Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, I mean again Nia, and Nia must
- 53:50Speaker 1: have gotten herself into some honeypot because she's up there.
- 53:54Speaker 2: Well, that's why I also wonder if Michelle quit.
- 53:57Speaker 4: Maybe I know it's probably not, but she's he would
- 54:00Speaker 4: have even sat her that low just to get her
- 54:03Speaker 4: agitated for the reunion.
- 54:05Speaker 1: You mean the producers, Ye're the producers give her a
- 54:10Speaker 1: little you know, like imagine sitting Kenya all the way
- 54:12Speaker 1: down there trouble.
- 54:16Speaker 3: Oh wow, Well that is kind of a nice thing
- 54:18Speaker 3: about this show. I feel like half of them don't
- 54:21Speaker 3: feel to me like they're dying to be on the show.
- 54:25Speaker 3: You know, they don't feel that thirsty, which is so
- 54:28Speaker 3: nice in our one of our programs, just to have
- 54:32Speaker 3: it is like a genuine group of friends that have
- 54:34Speaker 3: been together for a long time. It's like Michelle doesn't
- 54:37Speaker 3: seem to care, Jason doesn't really seem to care. Nia
- 54:44Speaker 3: and Bootleg. Uh it was it one of you guys
- 54:49Speaker 3: who said he he looks like who hosts? Who hosts?
- 54:54Speaker 3: Love is Blind? Nikolasche He's like a bootleg, you know,
- 55:04Speaker 3: seem to like care, nor does his wife Like I
- 55:08Speaker 3: just enjoy that, you know. It's yeah, so it's a
- 55:13Speaker 3: nice element.
- 55:14Speaker 4: I said that, yeah, early on, about how they don't
- 55:18Speaker 4: they don't yet know what they're on, and it's nice
- 55:20Speaker 4: because they're actually showing us their real selves. That's what
- 55:22Speaker 4: I said about season one, and I think that carries over.
- 55:25Speaker 1: Their problems are bigger than their thirst at this point
- 55:29Speaker 1: because they have such big problems. By the way, Nia
- 55:35Speaker 1: and Dana Clarita have moved up here to Santa Clarita officially.
- 55:40Speaker 1: I know I mentioned that, but I want to continue
- 55:42Speaker 1: to mention that again. And yeah they have, like I
- 55:45Speaker 1: guess their house was profiling people, but not the whole house.
- 55:48Speaker 1: You can only see like a couple of different rooms
- 55:50Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But yeah, I'm happy for them.
- 55:53Speaker 1: So I don't think they live in the in the
- 55:56Speaker 1: area that I live, and they don't live in I
- 55:58Speaker 1: don't believe they live in Valencia, although that's where they
- 56:00Speaker 1: were talking about moving. I don't think it's there. I
- 56:03Speaker 1: think it's a little further out at the Glsons. I
- 56:08Speaker 1: hope so too. When we get a Gelson's. There's no
- 56:14Speaker 1: Gelsons up here. We have like a Whole food We
- 56:17Speaker 1: have Whole Foods, and we have sprouts. We don't have
- 56:18Speaker 1: a Gelson's.
- 56:19Speaker 2: We'll see them at the Whole Food at the sprout.
- 56:21Speaker 4: Yeah about sprout, it's so expensive. It shouldn't be. It's
- 56:27Speaker 4: treating itself like a Whole Foods. It needs to take it.
- 56:29Speaker 2: Down on that.
- 56:30Speaker 1: Really, you know what, I love about Sprouts. Is that
- 56:33Speaker 1: on below deck. I'm not sure which iteration of it,
- 56:37Speaker 1: but the daughter of the man who created Sprouts was
- 56:42Speaker 1: a crew member.
- 56:44Speaker 2: Oh oh, I know her? Was she Vivian Sproutini.
- 56:51Speaker 4: Carl Stini, Yes, Sproutinis.
- 56:57Speaker 1: And every time she put She didn't really have much
- 56:59Speaker 1: to do on the show. I think she came in
- 57:00Speaker 1: as an alternate. I don't know, but uh, there was
- 57:03Speaker 1: not much about her in the in the season, but
- 57:05Speaker 1: all I wanted to talk about was Sprouts. I'm like,
- 57:07Speaker 1: talk more about sprouts.
- 57:12Speaker 4: Your father, Carl invented sprouse sprouts.
- 57:15Speaker 1: That's right, all right, Well, that was That's it you guys.
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