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Sharks: Dangerous Animals (2025) · Fumbling Through Film

• 0:00
  Gathered together from the cosmic reaches of the universe, here in this great screening room with comfortable recliners, are the most powerful forces of good ever assembled. Keith.
• 0:10
  Oddly though, you didn't edit out me multiple times saying I was the rom-com god or whatever, and, and, and I did not remember doing it twice.
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  Terry.
• 0:20
  Hey.
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  Derek.
• 0:21
  I like to thicken my water with flakes of dead skin from my feet. Makes it viscous. And the power twins, Zap and Jordan, with their magical lemur snort dedicated Welcome back to fumbling their way through movies one forgotten gem at a time! This week we ooby-dooby with 2025's Dangerous Animals! This is Fumbling Through Film!
• 0:42
  Have you ever heard of the scarlet kingsnake?
• 0:47
  She's a harmless creature that quite cleverly mimics the colorful stripes of the deadly coral snake.
• 0:57
  Now you're trying hard.
• 0:59
  To be the coral snake, but we both know that's me.
• 1:06
  And you, well, you just have a very pretty pattern.
• 1:21
  Those look fear. Hello and welcome to another one-of-a-kind, genre-defining, brand new episode of Fumbling Through Film, the only show that dares to bring together 3 dudes to talk about movies. These, however, aren't just any movies.
• 1:41
  Nope, not at all.
• 1:43
  But they could be though. They could be.
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  These, Terry, I'm sorry to say, are the ones we've missed, overlooked, or feel are simply worth revisiting.
• 1:53
  Wow.
• 1:53
  That, dear listener, Is any movie?
• 1:58
  That, dear listener, is a sure lot of categories, but not every category known to man.
• 2:03
  It's every category.
• 2:04
  No, all checkboxes—they've all been checked. Good job.
• 2:08
  Thanks, Keith.
• 2:09
  Wow! Hmm. Flipping to the other side again, eh? Interesting.
• 2:14
  That flip flopper checking boxes, agreeing with me on my good side is the Prime Minister of Fumbling and Film, Keith.
• 2:22
  Hey, what's up, KG Fumbler extraordinaire? Flip-floppity waffler, uh, also.
• 2:29
  Flip-floppity waffler also.
• 2:33
  Yep. Nice.
• 2:35
  Yeah, that other one that's also is the Dr. Dre of Kansas, Terry.
• 2:41
  That's right, I am, and I also am.
• 2:45
  He is. I'm not a waffler, I'm a I prefer waffles, but pancakes are delicious.
• 2:51
  I mean, they're both pretty much the same, but—
• 2:56
  That isn't true. That isn't true. A good waffle's crunchy on the outside, soft on the inside.
• 3:01
  I like the grooves, like the— fits the surfing. That's nice.
• 3:05
  You surf in the grooves of waffles?
• 3:07
  Oh, well, I wish—
• 3:10
  You surf in them?
• 3:11
  I wish that's what I said. I don't remember what I said, but Uh, imagine that, just the ocean.
• 3:17
  The taste buds surf on the syrup that's captured in the waffle.
• 3:21
  We need to get some syrup companies on the line. That's a great, uh, advertisement right there.
• 3:26
  Or waffle companies. I feel like we're making a pitch to Eggo right there.
• 3:30
  Eggo? Yeah, they surf on the taste buds of syrup and fun.
• 3:35
  You know what else is surfing on the taste buds of syrup and fun?
• 3:38
  Well, it could be anything.
• 3:40
  It's this podcast.
• 3:42
  Oh, okay. Interesting.
• 3:44
  It is. And so what is so delicious and fun is what we do here. So I better let people know what it is.
• 3:52
  Yeah. So they can get on their surfboards and come with us on these crazy waves, these crazy sticky waves.
• 3:57
  Crazy sticky waves. Hello and welcome. I just started reading the exact same thing. I never read this part.
• 4:04
  Hello and welcome. We're just starting over. Thrown by a loop.
• 4:09
  Thrown by a loop.
• 4:11
  Syrup surfing has got you thrown for a loop here.
• 4:13
  Most, uh, Ron Burgundy thing I've ever done in my life, I think.
• 4:16
  He's just reading the script. Wait, is this all pre-written? Hold on.
• 4:20
  I never read anything because I don't have it written down here. I'm just like, every week we watch movies, but not just any movie. Ah, ah, ah. Every month one of us chooses a theme, a genre, a guiding light, some sort of a crane to dip us into shark-infested waters. And we each choose movies that adhere to those cranes that dip us into shark-infested waters. And then on the 4th week, we truly fumble by watching a movie that's given to us by a vindictive, malicious wheel.
• 4:54
  A mad god, especially towards me.
• 4:57
  A mad god of a wheel, especially towards Keith. Yeah, that's correct.
• 5:01
  It is mad at Keith.
• 5:02
  Yeah, the wheel, you know, each week takes hair samples of us Puts them in with whatever movie it's picked. And then—
• 5:12
  I have yet to have a hair sample taken by the wheel.
• 5:15
  Interesting.
• 5:16
  I'm going bald, so—
• 5:18
  Oh, it's like a lot of—
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  the wheel's picking out the drain in your shower? Yuck.
• 5:22
  Oh yeah, thank God. Someone needs to get that hair out of there. Thanks, wheel. Anyway. There's so much in there. Let's get that out.
• 5:33
  God, yuck. Keith, why'd you bring that up? This is DTF, Down to Fumble, Y2, year 2, M9.
• 5:44
  What's M for?
• 5:45
  M stands for month.
• 5:47
  Oh, thank you.
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  And W1. And so this is like a new month kicking off. It's a Terry month. So Terry, let us know what your big swing is this month.
• 5:57
  Oh man, it's a big swing. You know, I've been Surfing on syrup waves and syrup-infested water. But little did I know, hiding underneath that sticky surface is a shark! So that's what we're doing, we're watching shark movies!
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  Are we surfing on syrup or sipping on sizzurp now while we watch this?
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  Sipping on sizzurp, surfing on syrup. Watching shark movies.
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  And opening a clip with talks about snakes. Awesome.
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  That's true. Which hearkens back to Terry's other month.
• 6:35
  Yes.
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  Y1, which was reptiles.
• 6:39
  That was a little reference to our true fans out there.
• 6:43
  Yeah. And what's funny, when you said sharks last week, my first knee-jerk reaction was to say, oh, we're getting more specific with the reptiles. But sharks aren't reptiles. No, they are not. They're fish.
• 6:58
  But they are reptile-like.
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  They're fish.
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  If you had to compare all aquatic animals to a reptile, that— I think shark would get close.
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  I would— yeah, it'd be somewhat close, I think.
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  I guess it's more like crocodilian.
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  Those are reptiles.
• 7:15
  True, can't argue with that.
• 7:18
  Well, Terry, since this is dub 1 of sharks, what'd you hit us up with here?
• 7:24
  Oh, I picked one that's been on my watch list for a while. Uh, it's a movie called Dangerous Animals from 2025.
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  Dangerous Animals from 2025.
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  Yes, new-ish.
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  It is. Yeah, it's one of our newer movies we've watched.
• 7:40
  Might be the newest film we've ever watched.
• 7:42
  No, can't be.
• 7:44
  No, that was— we watched Sinners the week it came out.
• 7:46
  No, but that— this might have came out after that. We watched that like 2 years ago, remember?
• 7:51
  Yes, but we also watched Big Bad Ben, which came out in 2026.
• 7:55
  Oh, dang it. Darn you, Justin Solheim.
• 7:59
  Yes, I say that every morning when I wake up.
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  Our one and only guest on our podcast.
• 8:06
  Yeah, that son of a bitch.
• 8:08
  He's ruining my, my records. First is Derek picking the oldest film, and now it's— It did. I am— I'm picking the newest one. Dang it.
• 8:17
  The rest of you are bookended between my greatness.
• 8:21
  I'll get you yet.
• 8:24
  Now, before we talk about our viewing of Dangerous Animals for 2025, before Terry takes us closer than we could ever imagine to Dangerous Animals from 2025, did any of us have any previous knowledge, history, and/or experience with Dangerous Animals from 2025?
• 8:43
  No, but back in 1995, I experienced a dangerous animal. No, I'm just kidding. What?
• 8:49
  Did you fight one?
• 8:50
  Yeah, I fought a bear back in the day.
• 8:54
  Oh, that's cool. Keith the Bear Fighter. I feel like we should add that to your titles of the podcast.
• 8:59
  I mean, it got paid off to take a dive, so it wasn't as dangerous as you would think. But this movie, no, nothing. No. Never heard of it.
• 9:09
  Been on my radar. I'd heard of it, uh, tangentially. I don't remember where exactly, but I remember someone saying like, hey, there's this new shark movie out, it's got a cool twist to it. I was like, oh really? But never watched it. I knew it was a Shudder original, which I like Shudder.
• 9:23
  Mm-hmm. Um, I feel like I'd heard of it, but I'm not positive I had. I know I'd never seen it, never thought about it prior to this moment, but I may have heard about it. I know I heard of Dangerous Minds, which this is not related to in any way whatsoever.
• 9:42
  Yeah.
• 9:43
  Dangerous animal versus dangerous mind. I wonder what wins.
• 9:46
  One's a gangster's paradise, the other— yeah.
• 9:49
  All right, Keith, you and I, we gotta relax because Terry's at the wheel now. He's gonna captain the ship.
• 9:56
  Yes.
• 9:57
  International waters, I think.
• 10:00
  I think you guys are excited to go, uh, shark diving, right?
• 10:04
  Yeah. Let me just sit in this big chair over here.
• 10:06
  Yeah, Derek, why don't you get in my little mechanism here? I'll strap you in and keep you comfy.
• 10:11
  I love mechanisms.
• 10:12
  You can be comfy in the chair and I'm going to get my camcorder ready and we'll just get out there.
• 10:17
  That's weird. The camcorder part was weird. I didn't mind putting on this harness through my crotch. The weird part was the camera. Anyway, we're going to relax, Keith, because Terry's going to take us closer than we could have ever imagined to Dangerous— I almost said Dangerous Minds. It's Dangerous Animals with another patent-pending Fumbler's Deep Dive.
• 10:36
  When a savvy and free-spirited surfer is abducted by a shark-obsessed serial killer and held captive on his boat, she must figure out how to escape before he carries out a ritualistic feeding to the sharks below.
• 10:50
  Oh, that's a good synopsis.
• 10:53
  That is. That's straight from IMDb. I did edit it slightly, but It's pretty good. Um, so give me the rewrite credit on that. This movie was directed by Sean Bryan. Fitting name for an ocean movie. Bryan.
• 11:06
  Bryan. Salty water. Yeah.
• 11:08
  That's pretty interesting coincidence. Maybe.
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  I think not.
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  I think not, though.
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  Maybe it was destined.
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  He was destined to make this film.
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  Changed his name just to make it.
• 11:17
  That'd be dedication. That's just like how I changed my last name to Fumble. Terry Fumble. It's kind of got a good ring to it.
• 11:26
  I changed my last name to Through Film, and Keith went Ing.
• 11:32
  Keith Ing. Yep. Uh, so besides Dangerous Animals, he's only directed 2 other full-length films. Okay. He directed a movie in 2009 called The Loved Ones. Oh, I wasn't expecting to go that far back. I know, I know, we're getting pretty far back into the past of film history here, so let's everybody strap in. Uh, it's about a boy who turns down a girl because she asked him to prom and he already has a date. Well, it turns out the girl and her dad are not happy about this. They kidnap the boy and they extract their revenge.
• 12:06
  Weird. Okay.
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  Yeah, I think the girl and dad are a little unhinged, perhaps.
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  Sounds like it.
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  She's kind of like the weird girl. I think the guy is kind of like the cool kid, but He already had a date. I mean, he wasn't like necessarily rude about it. Maybe in the movie he's a little more rude. Trailer seemed like he was just like, yeah, sorry, I'm already going with so-and-so. But that was enough to set her off. They make him go through like this weird fake prom thing in their dining room. They kind of like torture him. They drug him. All this crazy stuff. Pretty messed up if you ask me. He also directed this film called The Devil's Candy.
• 12:38
  That's also— that's also why I never went to prom. I was afraid that would happen.
• 12:42
  Oh, me too. Yeah, me too.
• 12:43
  The devil's candy?
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  No, the other thing.
• 12:47
  No, I know. I was trying to move us along.
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  Oh, I'm sorry. Segue.
• 12:52
  To be fair, on the record, I did go to prom. Uh, just so all this— you know, like, I'm really cool, just so everybody knows.
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  Um, oh shoot, I'm glad my illusion of you is not shattered.
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  Yes, it all hinges on that, doesn't it? Yeah, so he also directed Devil's Candy, which, um, I have actually seen this before a long time ago. Oh, uh, it's about a painter. He gets possessed by some sort of mysterious demon, perhaps. Him and his family have just moved out to this country house in Texas with a twist. There's also this creepy serial killer guy running around. Hmm, kind of familiar premise to Dangerous Animals, if you ask me. Yeah, I mean, just, I guess, serial killer-wise. But not really. Where does the—
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  where's the candy coming from?
• 13:38
  Uh, I believe the serial killer really is into candy.
• 13:42
  Oh, all right.
• 13:44
  Yeah, and if I remember correctly as well, there's a lot of like kind of metal music in it, which is cool.
• 13:50
  Yeah, I agree, that's amazing.
• 13:52
  Yeah, so I don't know, I can't remember much about it, but check it out, y'all. This movie was written by Nick Leopard.
• 14:00
  Oh, I like that name. Yeah, what if he changes just to make this movie? Because that's a dangerous animal as well.
• 14:06
  I wonder if he did. That's interesting. Sean Bryan, Nick Leopard. I mean, come on, he has fewer credits than Sean Bryan did, which is interesting.
• 14:15
  Yeah, he only had 3. Well, he's got a few.
• 14:19
  Sean Bryan had like short films and such. Oh, okay, okay. But I only covered his, uh, full feature-length films.
• 14:28
  Gotcha.
• 14:28
  This guy has much less. He did have some very intriguing credits, I thought, though. So his first one is as additional crew on The Backrooms, which just came out this year.
• 14:39
  Hey, nice.
• 14:40
  Yeah, movie I really like based off that like creepypasta image that was online, got spun into a YouTube miniseries. There's a lot of random video games about this thing, and now there's a feature-length movie. Um, pretty cool.
• 14:53
  I haven't seen— I, I still know nothing about it other than it's yellow. And I want to see it.
• 15:00
  It wasn't too bad. I liked it. Yeah, I thought it was pretty cool. Um, it's pretty cool also because the guy who created the popular YouTube series also directed the film, which is pretty awesome.
• 15:10
  He's like 21 or something like that. Yeah, super young.
• 15:13
  But yeah, I listen to some interviews with him. He seems like a really like smart guy. Old soul. Yeah, he seems like an old soul.
• 15:19
  He does, honestly. I mean, A24 signed him when he was like 19 still. Because I think he turned 21 like the week after the movie came out or something like that, like a week or two after it came out. I just think that's crazy. And it's all based off of like this, like these YouTube video things that he put together and like a bunch of people then like copied and stuff like that.
• 15:39
  Yeah. And what's really cool about his YouTube stuff too is like, um, it's actually all animated. It's not even live action. Um, he's doing it all within like a 3D generated software thing.
• 15:50
  Oh, like been Blender or whatever.
• 15:51
  Yeah, he's doing it all in Blender. Yeah, exactly. Nice. Um, and it's crazy because sometimes it's really hard to tell. You're like, wow, this looks like just people and stuff. So that's pretty cool. I'm glad the movie turned out to be a success. I hope this guy does other stuff. Another movie that Nick Leopard did that I thought was intriguing, he wrote this one, Keeper. You heard of Keeper?
• 16:11
  Is that a goalie movie? I don't think so.
• 16:16
  Or a zoo movie?
• 16:18
  Oh, maybe it's about a zoo. I don't know. Uh, came out in 2025. Uh, it's a movie I've been meaning to watch. I didn't dive too deep in it, honestly, because I kind of want to be surprised. It's directed by Osgood Perkins. Um, he also directed Long Legs, which was his probably biggest success. Uh, had a big, like, build-up to that film. And he also did, uh, what was the other one I really liked? The Monkey. I love The Monkey.
• 16:41
  Yeah, I like both of those movies, to be honest.
• 16:44
  Yeah, yeah. And of course, uh, Long Legs featuring Fumbler's own Nic Cage.
• 16:48
  Fumbler's own. That, that's a top Nic Cage movie for me, I think.
• 16:54
  See, that's one film with Nic Cage I feel like maybe he went a little too crazy.
• 16:59
  I like that though.
• 17:00
  To me, it was like, okay, let's rein it in just a bit here.
• 17:05
  No, no, there's no— you never want to rein in Nic Cage.
• 17:08
  That's what makes him Long Legs.
• 17:10
  No, that's what makes him—
• 17:11
  come on.
• 17:12
  Oh, Keith, I gotta edit that out. Jesus Christ.
• 17:15
  Uh, we're never gonna learn our lesson on that one.
• 17:17
  Uh, warmed up from last week. Keith dropping spoilers, I had to beep them up.
• 17:22
  Oh Lord, yeah.
• 17:23
  I don't remember any of that.
• 17:26
  Yeah, I beeped them out. And when I beep out what you say, it's erased from your memory as well.
• 17:31
  That's like your secret power?
• 17:32
  That's a plug-in on the Adobe Audition I use.
• 17:36
  Each, each of our tracks is directed straight into our brains.
• 17:40
  So yeah, right into your cerebral cortex.
• 17:43
  Huh. You can just censor us. That's a, that's interesting. Um, I trust you to do that.
• 17:49
  I appreciate that.
• 17:51
  I don't.
• 17:52
  That's why you guys don't remember all the things I cut out.
• 17:54
  Oddly though, you didn't edit out me, uh, multiple times saying I was the rom-com god or whatever. And, and, and, and I did not remember doing it twice.
• 18:03
  See, there's things your body will shield you from traumatic events. And I think that's one of those.
• 18:11
  Your body was trying to protect you from that.
• 18:13
  Yeah.
• 18:14
  So don't worry, we'll make you forget this. Surely this won't come back up. Uh-oh.
• 18:19
  So I like this idea though of redacting things and it actually disappears from our mind also.
• 18:24
  Yeah, it's like a Black Mirror episode.
• 18:26
  Yeah, I feel like I read a comic recently that kind of had that idea. I can't remember what it's called.
• 18:32
  Derek, like, bleeped it out when he told us about last week.
• 18:35
  I, I say like a really brilliant comic book idea, Derek bleeps it, suddenly 2 months later this cool comic comes out with his idea. And I'm like, wow, I really like this idea. Written by who? Derek.
• 18:46
  Oh, Derek doesn't answer our calls anymore. What?
• 18:51
  Who is this Derek through film?
• 18:57
  my favorite writer. So I don't really know what The Keeper's about. Long story short, the general idea I got is it's like some sort of like— there's this like one location and it kind of covers like horrifying things that have happened throughout time to different people. Hmm. And there's just like evil presence or something. I don't know. I don't want to know because I want to watch it and be surprised because I really like this director. I like his style. Uh, the movie stars, uh, Hassie Harrison as Zephyr. She hasn't been in a whole lot that I recognize. She has Tony Kretz on IMDb, though. The two biggest things that she's probably in are where that she was in 18 episodes of that hit classic TV show Yellowstone everybody seems to love.
• 19:38
  Yeah, people love Yellowstone for some reason. Never seen it.
• 19:41
  Don't even know what's about. I think it was on this podcast I learned it's not a western.
• 19:45
  It's like modern. Yeah, it's like oil tycoons or something.
• 19:51
  Yeah, that seems, uh, it seems too late to be getting into that kind of thing. Um, especially now there's like 5 spin-offs.
• 19:58
  Yeah, don't care.
• 19:59
  Yeah, not interested, not interested. She was in a show called Tacoma FD for 48 episodes.
• 20:06
  Tacoma Fire Department?
• 20:09
  Yes, she played a character called Lucy McConkey.
• 20:12
  Great name.
• 20:14
  Lucy McConkey. And I think she's a pretty big character in this. So yes, classic sitcom about firefighters. Really gave me like Brooklyn Nine-Nine vibes, whatever that show's called. Did I say that right? Brooklyn Nine-Nine? Yes, yes, yes. Well, yeah, because I—
• 20:28
  okay, it makes sense it's a comedy because for a second I'm like, all right, we got all the New York shows and all the Chicago shows and stuff like that, and how would they do something in Tacoma? Well, it's a joke.
• 20:37
  Okay, that makes sense. I mean, the Tacoma citizens have been clamoring for this for a long time. Yeah, because their fire department's hilarious. They also like double as like an improv troupe.
• 20:48
  They call my FD.
• 20:50
  There's a burning house, but there's like, where's the fire department? They're off like improv night.
• 20:55
  Can I get a suggestion? Yeah, put out my house, it's on fire. I think about a different one.
• 21:01
  We got that last week.
• 21:02
  We got that last week.
• 21:03
  She was in a movie called Max Reload and the Nether Blasters.
• 21:10
  Max Reload and the Nether Blasters?
• 21:15
  That's correct.
• 21:16
  Is Nether Blasters like the Netherland Blasters and it's a portmanteau, or is it like the Nether regions?
• 21:22
  I'm guessing it means something about the Nether regions. It could be Netherland related, but they didn't mention that at all in the trailer. But to be fair, they didn't mention Nether blasting either.
• 21:33
  So when you say Nether regions, Like, do you mean like I meant, like your private parts? Or is it like a region within the universe or some sort of like interdimensional?
• 21:48
  It's like a region within the universe.
• 21:52
  We've gone to the nether regions.
• 21:54
  Everyone's got their own little region of the universe, if you know what I mean. I don't know what this movie's about. I'll just be honest.
• 22:04
  I don't think anybody knows.
• 22:05
  I watched the trailer. There's some sort of video game that's like, I guess, possessing people. Oh no. There's like a chosen one guy who's supposed to be able to fight back against it. Oh no. But Keith, I think you will want to watch this because Kevin Smith makes an appearance in the trailer. Mm-hmm. And you like him. I know you like him, so you better watch this. She's also in a movie that I almost forgot existed until I saw the poster. Axel, A-X-L. I've seen that.
• 22:36
  What's it about?
• 22:37
  Robot dog. It's about a dog. Robot dog.
• 22:41
  Oh, I know the poster now. I could see it in my head.
• 22:45
  I saw that poster and it was immediately like, wow, I forgot this was a thing. Me too. Motorcycle kid finds a robot dog in the junkyard or something. Uh, they become instant best friends, or maybe, you know, Takes a little time, but eventually become best friends. And then the dog also happens to be a deadly military weapon. And of course they want to get that weapon back.
• 23:07
  They, they always want it back.
• 23:09
  Yeah. Yeah. It's like, well, finders keepers, dude. Just let me have it.
• 23:13
  Come on, military.
• 23:14
  Trust this deadly military weapon into this young teen with a motorcycle.
• 23:19
  Yeah.
• 23:19
  Yeah. And if I remember right, the, the robot dog gets put down once. Whoa. And, and my, my son, uh, one of my sons, he was fine with that. And then when it did it—
• 23:32
  He was fine with that?
• 23:33
  And then when they did it a second time, then he kind of broke down a bit.
• 23:36
  Wow. Yeah, that dog must have really grown on him throughout the film. That's good. That's called character development. Maybe we should watch it. Maybe we will. Yeah. Anyways, that's enough about the robot dog. So the next person I'm going to talk about is Jai Courtney. He plays Bruce Tucker, and this is also the last guy I'm gonna be talking about. So sorry. This is a guy that I have seen before, most famously Captain Boomerang in the Suicide Squad movie. Yep. Which he's probably a highlight in that first one. I really like him in that, even if the movie's not that good. I don't know. I think it's good.
• 24:14
  Oh no, I was just clear. I'm sorry. I was just clearing my throat. I was.
• 24:16
  I felt like I was like, oh yeah.
• 24:19
  It took me a long time watching this movie. to realize that it was Captain Boomerang.
• 24:25
  Yeah.
• 24:26
  Oh no, I— yeah.
• 24:28
  But yeah, Captain Boomerang, great character. Hopefully he comes back in the Gunnverse.
• 24:33
  Well, didn't he— he died though, right?
• 24:35
  Yeah.
• 24:35
  Suicide Squad. The Suicide Squad. Yeah, he was in it for a minute.
• 24:39
  What a waste. Yeah, yeah. But oh well, we'll probably get Condiment King before we get another Captain.
• 24:45
  I hope so.
• 24:46
  Oh God, yes, please.
• 24:47
  Calendar Man and Condiment King.
• 24:52
  Yeah, I'm waiting for, uh, that Absolute Batman comic to have Connor McKean. It's got to be some crazy thing.
• 24:57
  He uses blood as ketchup.
• 25:00
  I would not doubt that.
• 25:02
  So, Jai Courtney, he also played Kyle Reese in the much-maligned Terminator Genisys.
• 25:08
  Ah, that's who he was. I couldn't remember, uh, if he was John Connor or Kyle Reese. Me and my wife were talking about this one. I was explaining who was in the movie.
• 25:17
  Yep, Kyle Reese. He's got to go back in time to save Sarah Connor, who's the mother to the hero John Connor from the future. So very similar.
• 25:28
  Khaleesi from Game of Thrones, right? Uh, I think that's Sarah Connor. Yeah, I think that's who's playing her in the movie.
• 25:35
  I don't know, maybe, maybe could be. Speaking of weird spellings, isn't Genesis spelled weirdly in that title?
• 25:43
  Oh God, yeah, I think it's spelled G-E-N-I-S-Y-S.
• 25:47
  Oh, that's that's where the why goes. I couldn't remember exactly where.
• 25:50
  Yeah, it's pretty weird. It kind of looks cool, but um. I thought so too.
• 25:56
  That also the one where Arnold comes back to the franchise?
• 25:59
  Yeah, he might.
• 26:00
  Yeah. Yes, he does. I've seen this in theaters. Of course he does. Wow, Terry. I know, and I was I kind of regretted it because I did not like it. It's very similar to the first movie at first, but there's a twist. Sarah Connor. Sarah Connor knows. that Kyle Reese is coming, and she already has Arnold Schwarzenegger as the Terminator by her side helping her. Interesting. So she's already been prepping. She's already been prepping for this. Uh, the other big twist, and this is not spoiler because it's in the trailer, okay? Just saying, all you listeners, this is not a spoiler to Terminator Genisys if you're curious about watching it. But I feel like maybe it would be an interesting reveal if you watched it without knowing this. But it's in the trailer, so I'm going to say it out loud. John Connor himself is the Terminator, the evil one. Yeah.
• 26:52
  So it's a different John Connor though, right?
• 26:56
  Nope. Huh? Nope. They infected him in the future and sent him back.
• 27:02
  They infected him in the future and sent him back.
• 27:06
  They infected him with nanites or something.
• 27:08
  And he became a Terminator.
• 27:10
  Yeah, they made him half— well, he says in the trailer he's, he's no longer man, but he's not a machine either. He's something more.
• 27:18
  A cyborg.
• 27:18
  Yeah. Yeah, there's a word for that, John Connor. We all know that.
• 27:22
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do. I remember that trailer and being like, why would you tell people this?
• 27:26
  It feels like a big reveal. Yeah. Yeah. And the way, if you watch the trailer, This the way it works. Just imagine the liquid metal Terminator, both nanites. It's the same thing. Not that different. But yeah, anyways, Terminator has a pretty bad run lately. I watched Dark Fate too, and I did not like that one that much either.
• 27:47
  The TV show was supposed to be pretty good though, wasn't it?
• 27:50
  Yeah, I did hear that was good. I've never watched that. Maybe I should. I like Terminator as a concept. Terminator 1, Terminator 2, that's really where I would stop though. Yeah, I haven't seen 3, but maybe it's good.
• 28:02
  Yeah, it's not.
• 28:03
  Okay, well, I'll never watch it then. Yeah, he's, uh, he was also in the Divergent series.
• 28:07
  Hmm. Oh, I forgot about that.
• 28:10
  And then of course he was in I, Frankenstein.
• 28:13
  I do not know that movie.
• 28:15
  Um, I think it's Aaron Eckhart. Who is the Frankenstein in that? Frankenstein's like a superhero in that one.
• 28:21
  He's a superhero?
• 28:21
  Like, yeah, he's, he's like a hero.
• 28:24
  Monster or Victor?
• 28:26
  The monster. Yeah, he gets caught. Oh, here's the synopsis for this. Frankenstein's creature finds himself caught in an all-out century-old war between 2 immortal clans. Doesn't that sound cool?
• 28:37
  No.
• 28:38
  Well, all right.
• 28:42
  Is it, is it Aaron Eckhart playing Frankenstein?
• 28:45
  Yeah, he is Frankenstein.
• 28:46
  I'll give you 3 guesses what it gets on Rotten Tomatoes.
• 28:49
  Uh, 25.
• 28:51
  32%.
• 28:52
  You're both way high. Really? Yeah.
• 28:56
  10.
• 28:56
  5.
• 28:57
  Oh, ouch. Is, uh, Mr. Courtney also in A Good Day to Die Hard?
• 29:05
  Yes. Yes, sir. Yes, he is. Good call.
• 29:09
  Yeah.
• 29:10
  He plays Bruce Willis's son.
• 29:11
  Wow.
• 29:12
  Jack Courtney does?
• 29:14
  Yeah. He plays, yeah, he plays, uh, John McClane's son. It's a, it's an absolutely awful, horrible movie.
• 29:20
  I, I know I've never seen it. I— the third one is where I tapped out.
• 29:25
  And that's good. That's about as far as you really need to go.
• 29:28
  Because I didn't like the third one.
• 29:30
  No, I didn't mind the third one. After that though, they're all just dumb.
• 29:32
  I've only seen the first.
• 29:33
  Nothing wrong with that either.
• 29:34
  Nope. Okay, maybe I'll just keep it that way as well.
• 29:38
  I think the second— I like the second one too. Yeah, some people don't.
• 29:41
  Isn't there like Die Hard with a Vengeance? Is that the third one?
• 29:44
  Yeah, that's the third one. Okay, they have some cool titles. I don't know if it's just bad movie choices or what, but you know, Jack Courtney's been in a lot of trash. Like every time, like like that one or like the Divergent series was like did never really was all that much. I think that I don't even think they finished it. He's in the wrong Suicide Squad movie.
• 30:06
  He's in both, but yeah, he does get destroyed in this.
• 30:08
  Oh yeah, he's yeah, he gets killed up, and it's just like eh. Like, I don't know. Like, I like him kind of in like most of the stuff he's in, and for me, he's the highlight of this movie. I don't know if he just—they tried Hollywood tried making the thing out of him for a bit, and it just never paid off.
• 30:24
  Yeah, I think on paper some of the stuff he picks is like a good idea. Like Divergence, a big series and young adult series.
• 30:32
  Kids yeah, and that was right after the Hunger Games became such a huge thing. Yep.
• 30:38
  DC superhero. But yeah, like, those aren't bad choices per se.
• 30:43
  Suicide Squad, a Terminator movie.
• 30:46
  That's Kyle Reese.
• 30:48
  Yeah, I'm just saying, like, I'm like, Die Hard movie. Not necessarily like that they're— not that they're bad choice, but like whatever he was getting put into, like, then ended up kind of like being the—
• 30:58
  being bad choice version. But yeah, and if you're an actor and you're presented with that idea, you're like, yeah, I'll do that.
• 31:05
  Yeah, but it's kind of like Hollywood was like, hey, this guy's gonna be the, like, one of the next big action stars, and they started putting him in stuff and it just did not pay off ever.
• 31:14
  Yeah, this guy's gonna be Captain Boomerang. Great. Yeah, thanks. I don't know, that might tip you off that you're not in a good movie. No, I like Captain Boomerang, don't get me wrong, but no, he's Australian, he's right.
• 31:27
  He's also, he's also fun as a— yeah, he does a great job.
• 31:31
  National bird of Australia or something like that, so Wait, Captain Boomerang is, or just a boomerang?
• 31:37
  The boomerang itself. Yeah. Okay. Lastly, he was in, uh, Alita: Battle Angel, though he was uncredited.
• 31:45
  Oh God, I heard that's good. No way. I heard it's good. No way. I've, I've seen 10 minutes of it. You have?
• 31:54
  Yeah, I watched the trailers. I did not think it looked good. No, but I'm telling you, I got a guy and he told me it's good.
• 32:02
  There, there is like an online presence that people act like this is some amazing movie and it's not.
• 32:09
  Interesting. Okay, it's based off a manga, I know that. Uh, it's about cyborgs. She loses her memories and she's got to figure out who she is, and I think she's some sort of like killer cyborg. I don't know. She's got cool weapons and stuff.
• 32:24
  And giant eyes.
• 32:25
  Big eyes.
• 32:27
  Is Steve Buscemi in that?
• 32:28
  You're thinking of Christoph Waltz?
• 32:30
  Oh, it is maybe that. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, he's in there. Okay. I don't know why I thought he was Jimmy.
• 32:34
  The Venn diagram of Alita: Battle Angel truthers and Snyder Bros is almost an exact overlap. It is. It is.
• 32:44
  I'm looking at the trailer and some of the effects look crazy. Like the CGI looks a little strange, but I look— this person I know, he said it's good, so maybe it is. I don't know. Look, you— Keith, did you like it when you watched it?
• 33:00
  Uh, no. I mean, I obviously can't even remember who's in it, so I've blacked it out along the way.
• 33:06
  I mean, it's written by James Cameron. Mm-hmm. Directed by Robert Rodriguez. Mm-hmm. What more do you need?
• 33:15
  A good movie. Goddamn, that was close to dangerous animals.
• 33:21
  Yeah, you don't want to get too close to dangerous animals. No.
• 33:26
  That's like the rule about dangerous animals.
• 33:28
  If you're gonna get me close to one, you better put me in a giant metal cage.
• 33:31
  Steer clear.
• 33:32
  I don't think I'd ever want to get that close to a dangerous animal, especially one that's like a shark.
• 33:36
  Well, usually sharks you can see on the other side of glass at like an aquarium. Mm-hmm. Or I guess if you were in a cage.
• 33:44
  Yeah, would you guys go in a cage?
• 33:46
  Yeah, sure.
• 33:48
  Maybe if someone— if like someone I was with or something really wanted to, maybe, but I wouldn't go by myself. I'd be too scared. I mean, I'm sure I wouldn't get eaten, but I don't know. I feel like there's this game I play, it's called, uh, Subnautica. I didn't know I had this, this fear, but when I started playing that, like, the idea of like just empty ocean all around me.
• 34:09
  Yes, it's kind of like being in space in a way.
• 34:12
  It's unnerving. Yeah, just like not knowing what, you know, everything, anything could happen. I don't know, just like this void.
• 34:19
  I thought you were gonna say like, there's this game I like to play like with my friends and we'll just, you know, then you're coming up with like subjects of like things that scare you or something.
• 34:27
  No, we will push each other's head underwater and see how long it takes for us to pass out.
• 34:32
  Before I thrash and scream in fear. All right, I guess Terry's scared of drowning. Cool. Yeah, I didn't know that.
• 34:40
  Terry's afraid of dangerous animals and dangerous situations.
• 34:44
  Yeah, next week we're gonna throw him into the lion's cage at the zoo and see how he reacts. Oh, he's scared of lions. That's fun.
• 34:51
  That's a fun game.
• 34:52
  What a game that is. Yeah, we're gonna launch Terry into the sky on a giant catapult. Oh, I guess he's scared of flying. Weird.
• 35:00
  And heights. 2 with one stone there.
• 35:03
  Oh yeah, that's true. Yeah, it might be too easy. You might have to narrow that down. Which one is it? Oh, it's both.
• 35:11
  Turns out both. He's also afraid of landing hard on the ground.
• 35:15
  And we put him, we put him in a small box and he's really afraid of, uh, tight spaces.
• 35:22
  And if you light that box on fire, it turns out he might be afraid of fire as well. What a weird—
• 35:27
  What a weird guy. What a loser. Yeah, it's weird that they always throw me in these situations. I'm— why? I don't— I can't wait till somebody else's turn, but so far they really want to hone in on what I'm scared of. I feel like—
• 35:37
  It's because Terry Fumble is an easy mark.
• 35:40
  Yeah. No, my friends have good intentions at heart. They just want to know what makes me Yeah, that's true. Let's bury him alive and see how long he lasts. Oh, I guess he's scared of being buried alive.
• 35:53
  I would, I would hate that.
• 35:55
  That, that is like— there's— I have lots of high anxiety fears. One is drowning, 2 is being buried alive. That suffocation aspect, not a fan of that idea.
• 36:05
  Yeah, I don't like that idea. You don't gotta do that to me to prove I'm scared of it. I'm already scared of it.
• 36:14
  Suffocate to death.
• 36:15
  I don't wanna.
• 36:16
  Call me crazy, but that's just who I am.
• 36:18
  I have an idea. I'd rather just breathe freely.
• 36:21
  Breathe free and die hard?
• 36:23
  Breathe free. Yes, that's what I want to do. Die soft. I'd rather die soft. Breathe free, die soft.
• 36:31
  All right, boys, we gotta do it. We gotta talk about our viewing of Dangerous Animals from 2025.
• 36:41
  I agree. I think we should. What I like about this movie is that while sharks are scary, they're not really the villain.
• 36:50
  No, they are not.
• 36:51
  It's this creepy guy who's obsessed with them for whatever reason. He's got all this weird stuff going on.
• 36:58
  Well, because he was like half eaten by one when he was a kid.
• 37:01
  Yep. Yeah, he's got a lot of weird reasons, and then he mentions he was probably raised poorly or whatever. He's the bad guy, and he just uses the sharks as his weapon. Sometimes the sharks don't even do what he wants them to do. Like, I like that the sharks aren't treated as a monster; they're treated as just like kind of a unfortunate situation, I guess. I don't know how else to describe it, but I like that aspect of the movie because all these shark movies that you see, like Sharknado, like 47 meters down or whatever it's called, like they're all like that. Where it's like, oh yeah, look out, there's a horrific monster. And sharks are scary, don't get me wrong, I would be scared of a shark. But it's nice to see a movie take a different perspective on it, I think.
• 37:42
  Agreed. And a horror movie called Dangerous Animals where the shark is the weapon but the most dangerous animal is man.
• 37:51
  Hey, that's deep.
• 37:52
  It gives a nice twist on like a serial killer movie vibe as well. I mean, you know, It's not just like a guy going around slashing people up or something like that. He's, you know, the scene where she starts wiping the paint off the wall and seeing all the different names on there. Yeah. Um, and how long he's been up to doing this. And then when he's got his weird like video collection cabinet after he's made the—
• 38:15
  Yeah, the next last blockbuster.
• 38:18
  Yeah. Finally, finally physical media is surviving. Yes. What am I gonna rent today? Wow, these all have a very Similar vibe.
• 38:28
  That's weird. I will say, like, his boat was pretty darn cool too, and I would— that would be like kind of cool, just like hang out on the ocean on like a boat like that and just—
• 38:37
  it looks like somebody stabs you and tosses you into the water.
• 38:40
  I mean, it looked like he could be out there for like a couple days if he wanted to. He had like a whole like little—
• 38:44
  he had like a cabin kitchen and everything going on.
• 38:48
  Yeah, yeah, it was a nice little kitchen, and he had like a lamp, and he had like— what I thought was interesting was he had like A diner booth.
• 38:55
  Yeah, yeah, that's really odd. Yeah.
• 38:59
  I feel like I would like that. If I had guarantees my boat would never break down and I had unlimited food, I'd just hang out there for a while.
• 39:06
  Yeah, and you could avoid like typhoons and hurricanes.
• 39:11
  Yes, hurricanes.
• 39:13
  And when I was a kid, I used to be deadly afraid of whirlpools. Like, I thought those would happen.
• 39:18
  Oh God, well.
• 39:19
  I don't think they do.
• 39:21
  It happens sometimes. I don't know when, how that— yeah, I don't know how that happens in nature.
• 39:25
  No, I don't know either.
• 39:26
  It doesn't really make sense when you think about it. Scientists, get at us. Tell us how it happens.
• 39:32
  Let us know how a whirlpool works. I don't know why I don't want to trust the AI overview on this one.
• 39:36
  No. Yeah, how would it know? It's a machine. It can't go in water. It's its only weakness.
• 39:41
  It's just giving you a lot of advertisements for like Whirlpool kitchen appliances and stuff.
• 39:46
  Oh yeah, exactly.
• 39:47
  Well, an ocean whirlpool happens when opposing water currents, strong tides, or rushing water meet underwater obstacles, uneven seabeds, or narrow coastal channels. Instead of passing through each other, the clashing forces are deflected into a powerful spinning rotation, much like a tornado, but a water tornado.
• 40:08
  Tornado. Interesting. Okay. Well, okay.
• 40:11
  And like I said, I wasn't going to rely on the AI overview, but that's what I did.
• 40:19
  We'll trust it just this once. All right.
• 40:20
  What says it's from Wikipedia? Well, I trust Wikipedia.
• 40:24
  I do too. But yeah, I like the boat. I don't think I'd want to be captured and put on the boat. Oh, no. But yeah, I think the, the Jack Courtney stuff, his, his acting is really good as the serial killer. I think he is the highlight. The main character, she's okay. But really, I think that this serial killer guy is like just very intense and creepy and just weird. He's just strange. I like his motive—not his motives, his like methods—is very.
• 40:54
  I like his motives. He's got good motives. Really connected with the character.
• 40:58
  It feels like he's really relatable, guys.
• 41:00
  I don't know because I mean because especially at first, like okay, so he takes those two people out and then. You know, he kills the dude after they come up out of the shark tank thing, and you think, oh, he's just kidnapped this girl.
• 41:11
  Mm-hmm.
• 41:13
  And then it kind of levels up to, oh, he's not just kidnapped this girl, he's gonna feed her to the sharks. And then he levels it up with, he's also videotaping every single bit of it.
• 41:22
  Mm-hmm.
• 41:23
  Rewatching it while he eats his breakfast.
• 41:26
  Mm-hmm.
• 41:26
  And also he's making those weird, uh, you know, he cuts off their hair and makes like a little, uh, Fishing lures? Yeah, little fishing lures that he then puts in with the video cassette as well. Um, for like, just there's so many different levels of crazy they kind of go through. And then after like they kill the one girl and then he's got like that whole thing where he's like just kind of the adrenaline of her and he's sitting there dancing and everything there.
• 41:52
  Oh yeah, he's— yeah, he, he was like the Buffalo Bill of the ocean.
• 41:58
  He is. Yeah. What's like the buffalo of the sea?
• 42:01
  Which is a shark.
• 42:02
  The shark is the buffalo.
• 42:04
  Oh, everyone knows that.
• 42:05
  Yeah, everyone knows that.
• 42:06
  He, he really is the, the main like key reason to watch this movie. Like, he— I really thought he was great in this, which again led me to thinking of like, man, he was in like all these movies that kind of like weren't very good and stuff like that. Now I'm kind of like, well, maybe none of these were his— like had nothing to do with him.
• 42:24
  Yeah, well, no, I think he's good in most movies.
• 42:26
  Captain Boomerang, he's really, really good in that, but he's also a little bit of a psychotic guy similar to this in that movie as well, I guess. So yeah, maybe he just needs to do more psychotic things.
• 42:35
  Maybe, maybe he's found his calling being a psychotic, uh, character. Yeah, he's just good at it.
• 42:44
  I agree. Yeah, like, he was a lot of fun in this movie. Like, he, he was unsettling and a serial killer, but he was— he did a nice job acting. I actually like— I didn't like her name. I thought the name Zephyr was pretty whack, but I like that character. I thought she was fine. Uh, what was the dude character? What was his name?
• 43:08
  Oh, Moses. Yeah, Moses. Mo.
• 43:11
  Yeah, I thought he was a little bit, um, I don't know, he's pretty—
• 43:16
  I don't really like him as much. Yeah, but Zephyr was pretty cool.
• 43:20
  I liked her. Oh God, when she chewed off of her thumb.
• 43:27
  Oh, and she's like, she's like, he's passed out. She's like, I'm, I'm glad you can't see me right now. Yeah. And she like cracks it and then like sits there and bites. I'm like, oh my gosh, it's just—
• 43:35
  Breaking the thumb made me cringe. Chewing off the thumb, I had to pause it and get up and Walk away for a second.
• 43:43
  Make sure your thumb is still there.
• 43:44
  Yeah, like I was worried about my thumbs. Somebody's chewing them off.
• 43:48
  Well, yeah, that— yeah, she— I liked her, um, kind of weird relationship that the killer guy thinks he's having with this. Yeah, where he first— he thinks, like in the clip we showed, where he's like, you're just a fake, but I'm the real thing. But as the movie goes on, sharks—
• 44:06
  we're both sharks.
• 44:08
  We're the same. And it's like, you're not really the same. You're a freak, dude.
• 44:13
  Yeah. It's also— I, I like the, uh, when he, um, in that opening clip, he also does the thing where like wipes the sweat away and then, you know, tastes it and tastes like fear. I— that was a, that was a pretty cool, uh, line that they came up with there.
• 44:27
  Yeah. Yeah. He's an intense guy.
• 44:32
  I agree. Intense. I like when it was a— it was a nice move destroying his camera because he freaks the fuck out.
• 44:41
  Yeah, he's like, where are you gonna get another VHS camera that quickly on the dime?
• 44:46
  That's what I was thinking. It's like, what's he gonna do? And it was— it like some giant lost and found swap meet or something.
• 44:53
  Yeah, he goes directly there, just stops everything. Yeah, I like his little, uh, neighbor he has too that like Obviously he hates that guy's guts and that guy does not get it.
• 45:04
  Oh God, yeah, he's wanting to be his friend so bad. Yep. And he gets that hook right through the head. I'm just like, oh yuck. But he didn't kill the dog though, Keith. No, which I thought was going to be right up his alley, but maybe he likes animals better than people.
• 45:23
  That's true. He's not, he's not worried about the little fish. He wants the big game.
• 45:29
  As the movie went on, I was like, all right, this is, you know, it starts off a little slow, like after the initial thing of like him taking those people out, then it's kind of slow, like kind of learning about Zephyr and Moses, and then it picks back up with the anxiety and all of all the stuff of her being kidnapped and all. But then— It's kind of weird that like he's constantly like You know, he's out there, you know, every couple nights, whatever. He's spread chum around and he's doing his whole ritual thing and all. But like, when it's then time to, to kill her off, like, some big great whites finally show up. It seems a little bit cheesy. Like, I mean, he could just have regular sharks that have been following him around before, because he even explains, like, you know, when you go out and you, you know, the sharks start to, uh, associate the boats with food. It didn't— it didn't seem like you needed to suddenly have this like massive great white show up for the, the final scene. Like, you could have just— the same type of sharks that killed off the girl would have been perfectly fine. It was gonna be a feeding frenzy anyway. So this kind of was a little like, oh, okay guys, we get what you're doing. It's a little over the top though.
• 46:42
  But if the great white shows up, all the other sharks leave. So it's just a 1v1 instead of— if there's a horde, there's no way she'd get out of that. No.
• 46:49
  Yeah, I guess that, uh, when he gets killed at the end, it was extremely— that was easy.
• 46:56
  Kind of satisfying though.
• 46:57
  I liked that. I thought that was good.
• 46:59
  It just— it looked so bad.
• 47:02
  Oh, I didn't— I didn't think it looked bad. I mean, it was a great white shark jumping out of the water with Jai Courtney in its mouth.
• 47:14
  That's true. I liked that. I thought it was cool.
• 47:17
  The only part of this movie I didn't like, which it made me eye roll, was Ooby Dooby, motherfucker.
• 47:25
  Yeah, that's too much.
• 47:29
  That made me eye roll. But everything else, I don't know, this is, this is a pretty, pretty decent movie in my opinion.
• 47:37
  Yeah, I mean, I, I did, I enjoyed it overall. Yeah, it's Also, yeah, maybe we just don't do Creedence Clearwater songs. I don't know.
• 47:46
  If you're gonna do one, don't do Ooby Dooby. I agree with Zephyr. Yeah, she didn't like that song either.
• 47:55
  No, but Moses, he had a reason. It's all about love or whatever.
• 47:58
  Finding the right person. He's a romantic, that guy.
• 48:01
  He is romantic at heart.
• 48:03
  Makes pancakes for the, the girl who won't come into his house.
• 48:07
  Yeah, it's got some philosophies about aisle seats and window seats.
• 48:12
  I was waiting for her to be like, well, we're both in window seats, so shut your mouth. By the way, I take the aisle seat all the time. I am not super chatty with the—
• 48:22
  Oh, I always take a window seat. Always. Because I could lean against the side of the plane.
• 48:28
  Oh, and like sleep?
• 48:29
  Yeah.
• 48:30
  That's actually smart.
• 48:32
  Put the pillow and like the seat and this and the side, the fuselage create like a little crook. You put the pillow there. And you just like rest in that area.
• 48:41
  I don't have trouble falling asleep on planes, so it doesn't matter.
• 48:45
  Well, see, I have anxiety about this. If I fall asleep sitting up, I'm gonna start snoring. I don't want to do that.
• 48:53
  Oh yeah.
• 48:54
  Oh yeah, no, I got, I got woken up once on a plane for snoring and, uh, then I like, whatever, I don't care anymore.
• 49:01
  Yeah. Yeah. I pick one unlucky soul to lay my head on their shoulder as they're coming. They're my crook. My little nook that I put—
• 49:09
  I choose the middle seat just so I can lean on the people to my sides.
• 49:14
  I wait till the person on my left's patience is all out, and then I switch to the right.
• 49:18
  And then you go back to the left once— maybe they will have forgotten by then.
• 49:23
  And then I lean my head on the seat in front of me, and hopefully the, the bumping of the turbulence will make me hit my head over and over on their seat.
• 49:30
  Oh, that's nice. I like to take off my shoes and put my feet up on the On the, the armrest for this.
• 49:36
  Yes, I like to squeeze them through the sides of the chair so that like on accident their elbow sometimes touches my big toe.
• 49:43
  Yeah, yeah.
• 49:44
  And I'm not moving even after that happens.
• 49:46
  I take off my shoes and my socks. I don't go on with like sandals or something like that.
• 49:51
  Oh yeah, I've got them fully covered when I go on. Yeah, this is disgusting. As soon as I sit down, they're coming right off. And let me tell you You better hope I showered because sometimes— oopsies.
• 50:05
  Yeah, early morning flight. Yeah, you just don't have time.
• 50:09
  Just, just don't have time. Sometimes, like, I'll go to, like, the various shops in the airport and I find one of those ped eggs. You know what those are? It's like this, uh, pedicure tool that, like, scrapes all the dead skin off. Yeah, it looks like a cheese grater, but it's made for like the dead skin on your heels. I'll just do that while I'm sitting there.
• 50:35
  Why not? Just flick them off. Yeah. Yep. Just watch a movie.
• 50:39
  It fills up inside the egg and you lift the top off. You're like, what can I do with all this dead skin?
• 50:44
  Just dump it.
• 50:45
  Yeah.
• 50:47
  It fills up an egg?
• 50:48
  They'll clean up later.
• 50:50
  Yep. And if you get one of the old airplanes that still has like ashtrays in it, have you ever had one of those? Oh yeah, I just dump out the dead skin into that.
• 50:59
  Yeah, I like to use the cup of water they give me and just put it in there and let it float.
• 51:04
  Oh, you don't drink the water first?
• 51:08
  No, no, he still drinks it afterwards.
• 51:11
  Oh, Terry, hold on.
• 51:14
  I know, look, I'm a little untraditional, but yeah, that's my, my, uh, it's so soothing if you try it.
• 51:25
  Yep. I like to thicken my water with flakes of dead skin from my feet.
• 51:29
  Yeah, it adds a little, uh, like texture.
• 51:33
  It's not thick enough to chew, but it makes it viscous.
• 51:38
  Yeah, I like to make sure the person to my left or right's watching me.
• 51:42
  Oh God, I always offer a sip. I see you staring.
• 51:47
  Look at him, bottoms up.
• 51:49
  I'm gonna act all offended if they stare at me too long.
• 51:52
  Are you too good to drink my foot skin water? You're too good to do that, huh?
• 51:59
  Wow. What am I, some kind of freak in your eyes? I'm a person like you. Okay. Just want some respect. I just want some respect. I'm entitled to fly. I'm entitled to be here. I paid good money for this middle seat. Yeah. I'm sorry if you, your wife, yeah, and you wanna sit together, but I paid for this middle seat. seat, so I'm gonna sit here. Dang it. You're gonna watch me drink my skin water.
• 52:21
  Yeah, yeah, I'm providing my own cocktail here.
• 52:24
  Oh, that's a different kind of skin egg.
• 52:27
  Or not. No, I'm not doing that on the plane. I'll go on the record, I'm not doing that.
• 52:34
  Oh boy, that's gross. Uh, all right everyone, I like the shark Killing in this movie. Yes, when Heather is like, uh, submerged up to where it's just like the top of her torso, and then she jerks all over the place. I'm like, all those sharks are eating her. And then you see her half-eaten torso floating in the water. Yeah, I wanted that to wash up on the beach.
• 53:01
  I thought that's how he was gonna get caught.
• 53:03
  I thought so too.
• 53:04
  Oh, I thought when they showed like just, you know, it's like her head and like shoulder or whatever still there. Floating along that I thought they were going to show like another shark come along and like, oh, snatch it up.
• 53:15
  Yeah, I was thinking like a bunch of little fish nibbling on it or something like that.
• 53:19
  Yeah. Yes. Or like maybe some guy's like fishing on a boat far away and it's on, you know, and he happens to get a catch on his reel and he pulls it up and it's just a leg.
• 53:30
  Oh, you know what? No, you know what, that would have been a better way to go about doing this than having set up the romantic connection thing instead of putting Moses in there. Like, it, you know, because he's— I mean, it's fine, but like, maybe somebody else, like, like you said, like, they're fishing, instead they, they pull up like, you know, this like bit of her body that's left.
• 53:54
  An ear.
• 53:54
  And then, and then figure, you know, and then have to figure out what's going on and try and go save the person. Then, you know, just the rest of the movie goes as it is.
• 54:03
  But I don't know how you would narrow it down to him if you found a body floating in the water. Oh, it must be that guy.
• 54:10
  Well, you look over and there's like a big mechanism that's dunking a person in. That would be so funny if there's just a guy like 20 feet away, just like, hey, what's that guy up to? Just caught a leg on my reel.
• 54:26
  Hey pal, there's a person on the end of that thing. What? I can't hear you.
• 54:32
  You gotta come closer.
• 54:33
  I didn't mind the whole Moses being the detective here, right? And hunting her down. I thought that was fine because he— it's just a matter of happenstance that he ends up on that boat because she threw the camera overboard, which forced him to come back to land in such a hurry. Yep. And I don't know, I, I thought this movie Also, why—
• 54:56
  also, why did he bring that boat all the way back to land when he has that other little speedboat with him?
• 55:00
  I don't know.
• 55:02
  How far can a speedboat go?
• 55:04
  Yeah. Is he gonna leave his boat just floating out there?
• 55:07
  Well, I mean, she— they were close enough that she got all the way to whatever that, like, hotel resort thing was.
• 55:13
  Not sure, but I don't know if he's been, like, on, like, a route this whole time or not. I don't know. He's just sitting there.
• 55:19
  But that was a different time. That was afterwards.
• 55:22
  No, but I'm saying like instead of like, you know, bringing the boat all the way back and kind of maybe, you know, incriminating himself and giving that Moses time to get on there, like he had that other little boat with him to go places. So if he had—
• 55:33
  Yeah, no, I understand that, but, but they were out in the middle of nowhere.
• 55:36
  Yeah, maybe she just threw him off his game. He's not being as careful after that. He's trying to get that footage.
• 55:42
  He want— he was great white chasing. Yeah, he wanted the great white to be there for that.
• 55:49
  Yeah, he wanted— yeah, she's a spider.
• 55:50
  Makes sense. Makes nothing but sense. Just like this podcast. Just like this podcast, boys.
• 55:57
  Did we do it? I think we did.
• 55:59
  Did we get through Dangerous Animals from 2025? Yes, it's a dangerous way to go, but we did it. Yeah, well, what'd you guys think?
• 56:08
  I, I thought it was, that was pretty solid. I was better than I expected. I mean, I had never heard of the movie before. You know, I thought a couple like things looked a little cheesy at the end, but overall like the whole concept is really good and Jai Courtney's outstanding in this.
• 56:22
  Yeah, I thought it was decent. Um, I think the love angle, the love story, it's not like horrible, but it's probably the weakest part. But everything on the boat with the sharks and the serial killer, that stuff's all pretty good. I, I think it's a cool unique concept and they pull it off pretty well.
• 56:39
  I enjoyed this one. Yeah, like my biggest nitpick was that ooby-dooby shit. I thought it was a terrible line. Terrible line. But I mean, like, it was— I mean, it's not gonna win any awards. I don't think it did. But I did enjoy my viewing.
• 56:54
  Yep, that's all I can ask.
• 56:56
  That's all I can ask. That's all I ever ask. Entertain me, goddamn it.
• 57:00
  That's all I ask. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
• 57:03
  Yeah, well, we know what We thought. What did the internet have to say? Well, on June 19th, 2025, Gypsies Do It Better had this to say. Go see it now while you can. Great shark thriller slash horror movie. New spin on deep blue creature features. Yes.
• 57:28
  Yeah.
• 57:30
  I highly recommend you see this film on the big screen. This film starts off with just enough attention and steadily builds the pace all the way through the end. There's just enough story time between horror scenes to allow your anticipation to build without feeling like you're on a roller coaster ride. This movie doesn't cause anxiety. It's just a great, fun, horrible creature feature.
• 57:57
  Horrible?
• 57:59
  I don't know. Horrible creature, I think.
• 58:00
  Oh.
• 58:01
  I love the main antagonist. I loved him in Suicide Squad and now in Dangerous Animals. The FX gore versus CGI made me feel like I was on the boat in Australia, watching from the best seat on the boat, safely hidden and up top. That was all one sentence. Hmm. With weirdly placed commas. The colors were beautiful and the ocean was just gorgeous. This is a high-quality picture. What a great movie experience. One of the best shark movies I've seen, if not the best. Man, I am so glad I caught this before it left theaters. Go see it now while you can.
• 58:49
  Wow, I don't even remember this being in theaters.
• 58:54
  Maybe in Australia. 7 found it helpful, 15 not so much. 10 out of 10.
• 59:02
  High, high praise. High, high praise. Very excited about this movie, which is good.
• 59:07
  Good for them. But not to be outdone, on June 25th, 2025, Margot—
• 59:16
  like a week, like it was like barely a week later.
• 59:18
  Yeah, must saw it in theaters. Margot underscore Green Humanity had this to say: Just bad. Dot dot dot. I went into this thinking Dangerous Animals would be an exciting collaboration between a serial killer thriller and something like Jaws. Unfortunately, I was quite disappointed. It wasn't scary or thrilling; it just fell flat. I ended up disliking the characters, which certainly didn't help.
• 59:47
  No.
• 59:48
  Initially, I thought it might be a positive, diverse film with a narrative connected to the ecosystem of sharks, perhaps exploring how human disruption of their environment might play into the story. That could have been a compelling conservation-focused twist. However, none of that was explored. The film missed the opportunity to offer educational or meaningful commentary on shark conservation. In fact, it ended up feeling harmful to sharks, reinforcing outdated and negative stereotypes rather than challenging them.
• 1:00:25
  No, I actually disagree with that. I think it does pretty decent about not doing that.
• 1:00:30
  But also, I'm not, I'm not watching Dangerous Animals for like an eco-friendly message.
• 1:00:36
  Well, maybe you should be, Keith. 26 found that one helpful. 28, not so much. 1 out of 10.
• 1:00:43
  It feels like the film actually makes a point a couple times to like stop and be like, look, sharks aren't monsters, you know, they just are used to people coming and feeding them chum, you know, like that kind of thing. Like, that's pretty good about that.
• 1:00:56
  The sheriffs are only there because of the boat. That's it.
• 1:00:59
  Yeah, it's not, it's not their fault. Yeah, they're trained to do that.
• 1:01:03
  Yes, they are.
• 1:01:05
  They're animals, but they're dangerous.
• 1:01:08
  Dangerous animals. But Jai Courtney is the most dangerous animal of them all. Of them all.
• 1:01:14
  Of every animal.
• 1:01:15
  Of Smalls. Yeah, Jai Courtney is on the top of the dangerous animals chart.
• 1:01:21
  This might be— 2025 was probably his most dangerous year.
• 1:01:24
  I agree.
• 1:01:28
  His most powerful year?
• 1:01:29
  No, dangerous.
• 1:01:31
  This is his most dangerous year leading into his most powerful decade though, I'm sure. I'm—
• 1:01:35
  we're waiting.
• 1:01:36
  I think we're still waiting on his—
• 1:01:37
  we're waiting for a powerful decade from Guy Courtney. I think we got some time for that, but he had a dangerous year.
• 1:01:43
  Yeah, that's dangerous year for him. Well, we did it.
• 1:01:47
  We got through the DTF Y2M9 Dub 1. Dangerous animals. First of the shark month. Not even shark week, it's a shark month.
• 1:02:00
  Yeah, we're doing— fumbles can't be stuck with just one week.
• 1:02:04
  Hell no. It's our most powerful month to date, I think. Shark month. Every month is our month. Every month is the most power.
• 1:02:12
  It's more powerful than the previous. The next month, but you just get more power.
• 1:02:15
  I know. Every month it just keeps ramping up and then it'll crescendo and then we'll Yep.
• 1:02:25
  When you notice that, that flare-up on the horizon of just a skyrocket of fire bursting into the sky, you'll know we finally reached our peak.
• 1:02:33
  Yes.
• 1:02:33
  We've imploded.
• 1:02:34
  We've— did you say imploded or bloated?
• 1:02:40
  Well, we imploded.
• 1:02:42
  Oh.
• 1:02:43
  Oh, the worst way to bloat.
• 1:02:46
  Inside?
• 1:02:47
  Yes, internally bloat. Until you explode, I guess. Reverse bloat. Oh God, we're all so skinny now. So I guess that leaves dub 2 up to me. Yeah. Now, I— the shark, the shark theme was a challenge for me. I felt like I didn't want to just pick a shark movie, but I had to, right?
• 1:03:17
  Like— You wanted to make a twist on it.
• 1:03:20
  I didn't know if I want to make a twist, but my— when my first thought was, oh, the most dangerous reptile, a shark— no, that's not a reptile. So like my brain like just wasn't working properly.
• 1:03:31
  Okay.
• 1:03:33
  So I had to like zen out, calm down, find a shark movie, and I wanted it to be a good shark movie too. So I'm doing something we have never done here In, uh, the world of fumbling, going documentary.
• 1:03:50
  What?
• 1:03:51
  And we're watching Sharkwater next week.
• 1:03:55
  Sharkwater?
• 1:03:57
  Winner of 22 international awards.
• 1:04:00
  All right, interesting, interesting.
• 1:04:03
  I love nature documentaries. Apparently this guy's a big shark, and I believe he was killed. Oh, I don't want to step on my deep dive for next week. Whoa, whoa, whoa, Derek. But I think he was killed. I think he was killed by sharks. In a stunning twist.
• 1:04:15
  Oh no, it's like Grizzly Man.
• 1:04:17
  But Sharkwater, we're watching a documentary about sharks.
• 1:04:21
  And there we go, 2 months in a row, Derek with the surprise shocking pick.
• 1:04:26
  Never would have guessed. Never would have guessed. No, it's on— it's on Tubi.
• 1:04:31
  Yes, it is.
• 1:04:32
  It's on Amazon Prime also.
• 1:04:34
  Yes, it is. And it's well regarded as well.
• 1:04:38
  Perfect. I'm excited. I need to learn more about sharks.
• 1:04:41
  Yeah, it's— hey, we're nothing if not educational.
• 1:04:45
  Yeah, we are nothing without education. This podcast is— we teach so much every episode. We do. Every episode. This might be our record of teaching next week. We don't educate ourselves usually, but this week we learned about ped eggs and, uh, some knowledge is forbidden. We should not know it.
• 1:05:08
  Next week we'll learn about sharks. I'm excited. I guess it leaves us with nothing to do but to end this the way we end everything. Yes. Tired of dry, calloused feet? Oh, I don't need that. Look and feel. Sick of the mess scrapers and files leave behind?
• 1:05:28
  Oh, stop zooming into it. It's a smooth, beautiful— oh, this looks much better.
• 1:05:32
  Pedicure has over 100 precision stainless steel micro Microfiles to gently smooth and remove the roughest, dry, calloused skin. It works great on the toe, ball, side, and heel of your foot, and the Ped Egg's unique design holds all the filings.
• 1:05:46
  Oh, that dropped a lot without making a mess.
• 1:05:52
  Why didn't somebody think of this before?
• 1:05:54
  It's great. As this demonstration illustrates, the Ped Egg removes only a thin layer, leaving perfectly smooth skin. Thanks for listening. to Fumbling Through Film. New episodes drop every Thursday. Got feedback or questions? Email us at fumblingthroughfilm@gmail.com. You can see our films to fumble before you tumble into the grave and other musings on Letterboxd at Fumble Through Film. The through is T-H-R-U. You can also follow Keith on Instagram @kg3030lives and on Letterboxd @kg3030. Terry is on Letterboxd at Terry2099. Eric is on Letterboxd That's Derek, the number 9, and then the word 9. All original music is done by the Dr. Dre of Kansas, Terry, so hit him up for them bangers. Our new podcast logo is done by the delightful and talented Sanjay Vicky Nayak. You can find her on Instagram @einkstein. That's Einstein with a K in there. We'll see you next week as we keep on fumbling.