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How The Cleveland Strangler Almost Ruined A Sausage Business · Murder Files Unsealed

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  Speaker 1: Imagine being forced to tear out the plumbing of your
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  Speaker 1: family business.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 1: Like literally ripping through concrete, halting your entire livelihood. And why?
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  Speaker 1: Because the city says you're creating this horrible stench in
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  Speaker 1: the neighborhood.
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  Speaker 2: Right, which is a nightmare on its own.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. But then you find out the smell is actually
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  Speaker 1: coming from a serial killer's graveyard right next door.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, it is the kind of premise that
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  Speaker 2: sounds just too bizarre for fiction.
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  Speaker 1: It really does. It sounds completely made up.
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  Speaker 2: It does. Because we... We tend to think of true
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  Speaker 2: crime as something happening in isolation, you know, like a
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  Speaker 2: discrete event between a perpetrator and a victim.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Happening in a vacuum.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. But a neighborhood is an ecosystem. When something goes
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  Speaker 2: catastrophically wrong, the blast radius hits people who simply had
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  Speaker 2: the misfortune of sharing a property line.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. That collateral damage. And that is exactly what we
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  Speaker 1: are unpacking today. It's this incredibly unsettling story of Miss
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  Speaker 1: Red Flags and just unimaginable tragedy.
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  Speaker 2: And this is drawn from Jennifer Deutschman's reporting, right?
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Her article, How the Cleveland Strangler Almost Ruined a
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  Speaker 1: Sausage Business. And the mission for this deep dive is
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  Speaker 1: to look at massive systemic failure, but through a very
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  Speaker 1: unusual lens.
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  Speaker 2: Right. A perspective of the business.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. We're looking at the collateral damage inflicted on an
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  Speaker 1: innocent family-owned meatpacking plant that got blamed for a neighborhood's
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  Speaker 1: horrifying secret. So, OK, let's unpack this. Because it starts
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  Speaker 1: with a complaint about a bad smell and it ends
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  Speaker 1: with one of the darkest discoveries in Ohio history.
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  Speaker 2: The timeline of these events is what really demands our
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  Speaker 2: attention here. We're going to look closely at the blind spot.
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  Speaker 1: Both community awareness and law enforcement, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. The procedures that allowed a nightmare to just
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  Speaker 2: exist in plain sight. And honestly, how human nature often
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  Speaker 2: searches for the most mundane explanation for the most horrific realities.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a huge part of this. So We're
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  Speaker 1: going to start this off by looking at the scapegoat,
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  Speaker 1: the bizarre, highly localized mystery that ended up masking everything.
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  Speaker 2: Ray's Sausage. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about Ray's Sausage. So this is a family
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  Speaker 1: owned meatpacking business in Cleveland, Ohio, and they were founded
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  Speaker 1: in 1952.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. 1952.
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  Speaker 1: Right. So we are talking about a community staple here,
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  Speaker 1: a business that has been operating, employing people, paying taxes
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  Speaker 1: in this specific neighborhood for decades.
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  Speaker 2: Half a century of established trust and, you know, routine. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: When you have a local business with that kind of longevity,
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  Speaker 2: it becomes part of the architectural background of a neighborhood. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: People know the trucks. They know the schedules. And crucially,
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  Speaker 2: they know the baseline environmental footprint of the place.
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  Speaker 1: That makes sense. Like meatpacking plants have a distinct presence,
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  Speaker 1: a distinct smell anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. They do. But in 2007, the environmental baseline of
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  Speaker 2: this entire area began to shift.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Neighbors started reporting a terrible smell, a foul odor
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  Speaker 1: that was just, you know, wafting through the streets and lingering.
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  Speaker 2: And it wouldn't go away.
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  Speaker 1: No, it wouldn't. Now, when a city gets persistent complaints
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  Speaker 1: about a terrible smell, they send out inspectors. And the
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  Speaker 1: city of Cleveland, well, they didn't look very far.
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  Speaker 2: No, they did not.
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  Speaker 1: They immediately pointed the finger at Ray's sausage.
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  Speaker 2: What's fascinating here is if we break down the administrative
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  Speaker 2: and psychological shortcut the city took, It's a tragic case
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  Speaker 2: study in cognitive bias.
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  Speaker 1: Cognitive bias.
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  Speaker 2: Right. When people are confronted with something highly unusual or
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  Speaker 2: deeply unpleasant, like a pervasive odor of decay in a
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  Speaker 2: residential area, our brains immediately scan the environment for a logical,
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  Speaker 2: mundane explanation.
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  Speaker 1: Because nobody wants to assume the worst.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. No municipal worker or neighbor wants to jump to
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  Speaker 2: the conclusion that there are bodies decomposing nearby.
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  Speaker 1: Right. That's unthinkable.
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  Speaker 2: So they look around, they see a meatpacking plant, and
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  Speaker 2: they make an immediate association. Organic material spoils, meat processing
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  Speaker 2: creates waste. Therefore, this business must be the source of
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  Speaker 2: the rot.
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  Speaker 1: OK, I hear you on the cognitive bias, but isn't
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  Speaker 1: that letting the city off the hook a little bit?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't mean.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we're talking about municipal health and safety inspectors, not
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  Speaker 1: just a casual neighbor sniffing the air on their porch,
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  Speaker 1: you know. Shouldn't they have diagnostic tools beyond just a
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  Speaker 1: surface-level assumption? I mean, it feels like extreme bureaucratic negligence
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  Speaker 1: to just say, it smells, blame the sausage guys, without
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  Speaker 1: finding the actual source. It's like being forced to replace
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  Speaker 1: the engine in your car because your neighbor's house is
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  Speaker 1: on fire and the mechanic blames your exhaust.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's a great analogy. And you're right to push
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  Speaker 2: back on that because the line between cognitive bias and
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  Speaker 2: professional negligence is exactly where this went wrong. An inspector's
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  Speaker 2: job is to verify, right? Not just to assume.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: But municipal departments are often underfunded, overworked, and highly reactive.
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  Speaker 2: They get a cluster of complaints, they identify the path
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  Speaker 2: of least resistance, and they issue a mandate to close
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  Speaker 2: the ticket.
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  Speaker 1: So they just wanted it off their desks.
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  Speaker 2: Basically, yeah. They mistook correlation for causation. They assumed that
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  Speaker 2: because Ray's Sausage was geographically close to the complaints and
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  Speaker 2: operated in an industry involving animal products, the case was closed.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't even test anything.
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  Speaker 2: No, they didn't isolate the scent. They didn't test the
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  Speaker 2: air quality around the specific property lines. They operated entirely
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  Speaker 2: on presumption.
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  Speaker 1: And the mandate they issued based on that presumption was
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  Speaker 1: completely devastating to the business. They didn't just give Ray's
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  Speaker 1: Sausage a fine or, you know, ask them to clean
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  Speaker 1: the dumpster.
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  Speaker 2: It was much worse.
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  Speaker 1: The city concluded that the smell must be rotting meat
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  Speaker 1: trapped deep inside the building's infrastructure. So they forced the
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  Speaker 1: owners to completely remove and replace their entire sewer system.
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  Speaker 2: I want you to think about the physical and financial
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  Speaker 2: reality of that order for a moment. Replacing an industrial
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  Speaker 2: sewer system isn't a weekend renovation.
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  Speaker 1: No, not at all.
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  Speaker 2: It involves heavy machinery, breaking through concrete floors, halting production,
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  Speaker 2: and essentially gutting the operational heart of a facility.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, it's forcing a business to perform open
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  Speaker 1: heart surgery on itself because a doctor smelled smoke in
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  Speaker 1: the waiting room.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And Ray's Sausage had to do the work. They had
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  Speaker 1: to foot the bill and they had to endure the
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  Speaker 1: recutational damage of being publicly known as the business that
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  Speaker 1: was stinking up the entire neighborhood.
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  Speaker 2: Which is so damaging for a food business.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, completely. And spoiler alert for anyone listening and guessing,
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  Speaker 1: they ripped out the pipes and the smell didn't go away.
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  Speaker 2: Of course not.
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  Speaker 1: Because the odor was absolutely not coming from their plumbing.
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  Speaker 2: But by the time that truth was undeniably established, the
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  Speaker 2: damage was already irreversible.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The family was stuck with a massive bill for an
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  Speaker 2: infrastructure overall they never even needed and a public image
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  Speaker 2: that had been dragged through the mud.
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  Speaker 1: And the financial trap they found themselves in is just
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  Speaker 1: agonizing to read about. The city of Cleveland had initially
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  Speaker 1: told Ray's Sausage that they would assist them with relocating
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  Speaker 1: and expanding the business, presumably as a way to mitigate
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  Speaker 1: some of this friction. Right.
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  Speaker 2: A promise of help.
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  Speaker 1: But Leslie Lester, she's Ray's daughter and deeply involved in
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  Speaker 1: the business, she stated that the help never materialized. The
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  Speaker 1: city completely ghosted them.
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  Speaker 2: And we really have to look at the economic reality
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  Speaker 2: of this for a small generational business. Lester noted that
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  Speaker 2: the move would cost more than $ 80, 000 without municipal assistance.
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  Speaker 1: 80 grand.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And for a massive corporate conglomerate, 80 grand is
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  Speaker 2: a rounding error. But for a family-owned meatpacking business that
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  Speaker 2: has been operating since the 1950s, likely on incredibly tight
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  Speaker 2: cash-based margins, that is an insurmountable financial wall.
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  Speaker 1: Especially because, as Lester also pointed out, they had no
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  Speaker 1: credit history.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: They had operated for decades without ever seeking financing from
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  Speaker 1: a bank. They just ran on their own steam. So
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  Speaker 1: they are caught in this perfect storm.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: No city assistance, no credit profile to secure a commercial loan,
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  Speaker 1: and an $ 80, 000 deficit for a phantom plumbing issue.
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  Speaker 2: It's devastating.
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  Speaker 1: We talk a lot about the direct victims of crime,
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  Speaker 1: but this is the economic ripple effect that just completely
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  Speaker 1: destroys innocent bystanders.
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  Speaker 2: It forces a reevaluation of how precarious small business ownership
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  Speaker 2: is in an urban environment. You can follow every single rule,
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  Speaker 2: pay your taxes, run a clean shop since 1952, and
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  Speaker 2: an external horror entirely out of your control can push
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  Speaker 2: you to the brink of bankruptcy.
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  Speaker 1: Just because of bad luck with location.
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  Speaker 2: That, and because the bureaucratic mechanisms designed to protect the community...
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  Speaker 2: are fundamentally reactive and prone to targeting the easiest available scapegoat.
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  Speaker 1: And the ultimate tragedy of that $ 80, 000 plumbing bill is
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  Speaker 1: that the actual source of the smell was sitting right
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  Speaker 1: next door.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: We need to transition from the administrative failure that nearly
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  Speaker 1: ruined Ray's sausage to the grim reality of what was
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  Speaker 1: actually generating that odor on Imperial Avenue.
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  Speaker 2: This is where the narrative shifts from a frustrating story
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  Speaker 2: of municipal overreach into absolute darkness.
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  Speaker 1: It really does.
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  Speaker 2: Because the timeline reveals that the tragedy was telegraphing its
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  Speaker 2: presence to the entire neighborhood and nobody was listening.
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  Speaker 1: Between 2007 and 2009, a man named Anthony Sowell, who
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  Speaker 1: the media later dubbed the Cleveland Strangler, was living next
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  Speaker 1: door to Ray Sausage. Right. Literally sharing a property line.
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  Speaker 1: During that specific window of time, he lured at least
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  Speaker 1: 12 women to his home. His method was specific. He
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  Speaker 1: promised them alcohol and drugs. And once they were inside,
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  Speaker 1: he restrained them, sexually assaulted them, and murdered them.
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  Speaker 2: The timeline of his crimes overlapping with the neighborhood complaints
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  Speaker 2: is the most damning part of the systemic failure here.
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  Speaker 1: Because it matches up perfectly.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. The very first reports of that foul odor, the
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  Speaker 2: odor that triggered the massive sewer overhaul for the meatpacking plant,
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  Speaker 2: began in June of 2007.
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  Speaker 1: June 2007. Right.
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  Speaker 2: But it wasn't until November of 2008 that authorities even
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  Speaker 2: began to notice a pattern of women Vanishing from that
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  Speaker 2: specific area.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, November 2008, that is a staggering gap.
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  Speaker 2: Massive.
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  Speaker 1: A year and a half of a neighborhood smelling decomposition
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  Speaker 1: and a year and a half of women going missing
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  Speaker 1: before anyone even started putting a single piece of the puzzle. together.
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  Speaker 2: If we connect this to the bigger picture, it reveals
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  Speaker 2: a devastating blind spot in how communities and law enforcement
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  Speaker 2: assess risk. You have two massive glaring anomalies occurring simultaneously
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  Speaker 2: in the exact same zip code.
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  Speaker 1: The smell and the missing women. Right.
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  Speaker 2: A terrible, unexplained biological smell. and a spike in missing
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  Speaker 2: persons reports. But because the victims were from marginalized backgrounds,
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  Speaker 2: and because the smell was conveniently blamed on a local business,
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  Speaker 2: the dots remained completely unconnected. The tragedy was just hiding
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  Speaker 2: in plain sight.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't until October 2009, so over two years after
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  Speaker 1: those initial smell complaints, that authorities executed an arrest warrant
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  Speaker 1: at Sowell's home and discovered the truth.
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  Speaker 2: Over two years of this going on? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And when they went inside, they found the decaying
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  Speaker 1: remains of 11 women hidden throughout the property. The scale
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  Speaker 1: of the concealment is just, it's hard to even process.
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  Speaker 2: The distribution of the remains paints a picture of a
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  Speaker 2: predator who felt an incredible level of security and entitlement
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  Speaker 2: within his own environment.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he wasn't really hiding them very far.
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  Speaker 2: No, this wasn't someone panicked trying to quickly dispose of
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  Speaker 2: evidence miles away. He was keeping them in his immediate
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  Speaker 2: living space.
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  Speaker 1: The authorities found two bodies on the third floor of
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  Speaker 1: the home. They found two buried in the crawl space.
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  Speaker 1: Another was buried in the basement under a staircase. Five
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  Speaker 1: more were buried in the backyard.
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  Speaker 2: It's just horrific.
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  Speaker 1: And they found the skull of another victim inside a
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  Speaker 1: bucket in the basement.
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  Speaker 2: When you look at that distribution from the top floor
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  Speaker 2: of the house down into the earth of the backyard,
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  Speaker 2: it implies a chilling level of comfort.
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  Speaker 1: Comfort, yeah. That's a disturbing word for it, but it fits.
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  Speaker 2: He had time. He had privacy. He was operating a long-term,
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  Speaker 2: ongoing mechanism of murder in a densely populated residential neighborhood
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  Speaker 2: without any fear of interruption.
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  Speaker 1: I think we need to name these 11 women. It
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  Speaker 1: is crucial to ground this analysis in the reality of
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  Speaker 1: the lives that were taken because it is far too
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  Speaker 1: easy to reduce them to a statistic in a true
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  Speaker 1: crime narrative.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. We have to remember the human cost.
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  Speaker 1: The victims were 53-year-old Tonya Carmichael, 33-year-old Tashauna Culver, 44-year-old
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  Speaker 1: Nancy Cobbs, 38-year-old Crystal Dozier, 31-year-old Talaysha Fortson, 47-year-old Imelda Hunter,
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  Speaker 1: 24-year-old LaShonda Long, 45-year-old Michelle Mason, 44-year-old Kim Yvette Smith,
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  Speaker 1: 38-year-old Diane Turner, and 49-year-old Janice Webb.
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  Speaker 2: Eleven distinct lives, ranging in age from 24 to 53.
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  Speaker 2: Eleven families permanently shattered by this.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about his method, because it speaks volumes about
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  Speaker 1: how he sustained this for over two years.
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  Speaker 2: It really does.
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  Speaker 1: He intentionally lured these women with promises of alcohol and drugs.
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  Speaker 1: I look at that, and it seems like he was
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  Speaker 1: intentionally weaponizing their addiction to create a shield for himself.
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  Speaker 2: That's exactly what he was doing.
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  Speaker 1: Right, because if they're under the influence, they're physically pliable, sure,
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  Speaker 1: but it also feels like a strategic move to discredit
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  Speaker 1: them if they ever got away.
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  Speaker 2: It goes much deeper than just physical pliability, though. That
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  Speaker 2: is certainly a factor. By weaponizing addiction, he was exploiting
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  Speaker 2: a massive pre-existing societal vulnerability. Predators are hyper-aware of who
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  Speaker 2: society values and who society ignores. When a predator targets
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  Speaker 2: individuals battling severe addiction, they are relying on the fact
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  Speaker 2: that these victims often have strained relationships with their families.
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  Speaker 1: Right, so their absences might not be immediately flagged as suspicious.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. A family member might just assume their loved one
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  Speaker 2: has gone on a binge or moved to a different neighborhood.
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  Speaker 2: or entered a transient phase.
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  Speaker 1: So they aren't immediately calling the police to report foul play.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. And even if they do, the police response is
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  Speaker 2: often tepid. Predators know that law enforcement historically deprioritizes the
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  Speaker 2: safety of individuals suffering from addiction or engaging in sex work.
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  Speaker 1: Which is a whole other systemic failure. It is.
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  Speaker 2: And furthermore, by offering drugs and alcohol as the lure,
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  Speaker 2: so we'll bypass the victim's natural threat assessment defenses.
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  Speaker 1: Because they're looking for relief. Right.
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  Speaker 2: The victim is seeking relief or sustenance for a disease addiction,
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  Speaker 2: and the predator provides an oasis that is actually a trap.
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  Speaker 2: It ensures the victim walks through the front door willingly.
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  Speaker 1: And if a neighbor sees a woman willingly walking into
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  Speaker 1: a house with a man, it severely complicates any later
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  Speaker 1: narrative of kidnapping or coercion.
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  Speaker 2: Precisely. The visual from the street is just two adults
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  Speaker 2: walking into a house.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so you're painting this picture of a highly calculated
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  Speaker 1: predator who is carefully exploiting societal gaps.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: But at the same time, keeping bodies on your third
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  Speaker 1: floor while the whole neighborhood is complaining about the smell,
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  Speaker 1: that doesn't sound calculated to me. That sounds wildly reckless.
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  Speaker 2: I can see why it looks that way.
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  Speaker 1: It almost sounds like a guy who just knows the
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  Speaker 1: system is so broken that nobody is going to stop him.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't call the calculation and the recklessness mutually exclusive.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, the recklessness is often a byproduct of the calculation.
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  Speaker 1: How so?
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  Speaker 2: Over time, as a predator repeatedly exploits these societal gaps
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  Speaker 2: without facing any consequences, their hubris grows. They realize the
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  Speaker 2: system isn't looking for these women, and the city is
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  Speaker 2: busy blaming the sausage plant for the smell.
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  Speaker 1: So he just stopped caring.
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  Speaker 2: That lack of friction creates a false sense of invincibility.
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  Speaker 2: He wasn't hiding the bodies carefully because experience taught him
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  Speaker 2: he didn't need to.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. Now, you might be listening to this and wondering,
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  Speaker 1: how did a guy with dead bodies literally in his
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  Speaker 1: living room avoid police detection for over two years? Was
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  Speaker 1: he just a ghost?
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  Speaker 2: Not at all.
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  Speaker 1: The infuriating reality is that Anthony Saul was not a
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  Speaker 1: mystery to the justice system. Law enforcement knew exactly who
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  Speaker 1: he was.
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  Speaker 2: He was a highly documented, known entity to the state
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  Speaker 2: of Ohio.
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  Speaker 1: Highly documented. So let's get into his background. Sowell grew
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  Speaker 1: up in East Cleveland. He enlisted in the Marine Corps
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  Speaker 1: in January 1978 and served for eight years. He spent
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  Speaker 1: time stationed in North Carolina and Okinawa, Japan. Right. But
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  Speaker 1: shortly after he returned to East Cleveland in 1986, his
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  Speaker 1: violence escalated in a documented way. Within two years of
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  Speaker 1: coming home, authorities received reports that he had committed two
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  Speaker 1: different rapes.
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  Speaker 2: And he was processed by the legal system for those crimes.
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  Speaker 2: He pleaded guilty to one count of attempted rape, and
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  Speaker 2: he was sentenced to 15 years in prison. 15 years. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: He was up for parole several times over the course
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  Speaker 2: of that sentence, but he was repeatedly denied, ultimately serving
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  Speaker 2: the entire 15-year term.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: Which tells you something about his behavior in prison, probably.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. He maxed out his sentence and was released in
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: June of 2005.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: So a man serves 15 solid years for attempted rape,
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: maxes out his sentence, and moves into a house on
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Imperial Avenue, a property owned by his father and stepmother. Right. Now,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: because of his conviction, he is legally mandated to register
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: as a sex offender. At first, the law required him
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: to check in with the Cuyahoga County Sheriff's Office once
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: a year. But the laws changed, and by 2008, he
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: was required to report every 90 days.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: And this brings us to a critical juncture in understanding
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: how administrative systems provide an illusion of security. On paper,
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: if you look at the bureaucratic record, the system was
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: working perfectly. so well cooperated with the conditions of his
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: sex offender status.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: He didn't run or hide?
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: No. He showed up. He signed the forms. He checked
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: in with the sheriff's office every 90 days like clockwork.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: He was the model of administrative compliance.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Precisely. But compliance on a government form does not equal rehabilitation.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: And it is a terrible proxy for public safety.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Because it doesn't tell you what he's actually doing.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Exactly. The sex offender registry is essentially a tracking tool
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: for geography, not behavior. When a neighborhood hears that a
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: local offender is compliant, they feel safe.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Right. They assume someone is watching him.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: They assume it means the individual is being monitored, perhaps
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: receiving unannounced visits or having their behavior actively scrutinized. In reality,
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: it usually just means they walked into a lobby four
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: times a year, proved they still had a pulse, and
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: signed their name.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Just a paper trail. And the illusion of that monitoring
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: gets even worse when you look at how the address
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: verifications were handled. Because the deputies didn't just wait for
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: him to come to them, they occasionally went out to
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: verify he was actually living where he claimed.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Which sounds like good proactive police work.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: It sounds like it, yeah. On September 22, 2009, deputies
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: drove to Sowell's home on Imperial Avenue to confirm his address.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: They executed their administrative duty.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Here's where it gets really interesting, though. They executed it
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: by walking up to the porch, confirming he lived there,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: and leaving. They did not go inside the house.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: If you are law enforcement... And your job is to
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: monitor a man who served 15 years for attempted rape.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: And you are standing on his porch, surrounded by a neighborhood,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: complaining about the smell of rotting flesh. And you don't
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: even look past the front door.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: It's incredibly frustrating.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: If you're checking on a violent offender, but you don't
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: even look past the front door, aren't you just doing
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: administrative paperwork while standing on a graveyard? It feels like
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: a catastrophic failure of basic police work.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: I completely understand the frustration. But if we look at
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: the legal architecture of this moment, we have to talk
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: about the Fourth Amendment.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: OK, the search and seizure stuff.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Right. We have to look at the constraints placed on
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: law enforcement regarding unreasonable searches and seizures. The mandate for
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: those deputies was strictly address verification.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Just to see if he lived there.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Yes, because Sowell served his full 15 year sentence, meaning
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: he maxed out and was not on parole or probation
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: that might include a waiver of his Fourth Amendment rights.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Police cannot simply demand entry into his home without a
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: warrant or probable cause.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: I get the Fourth Amendment argument, I do, but doesn't
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: the smell of death constitute probable cause? The entire neighborhood
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: was complaining about it.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: It absolutely can constitute probable cause if the officers attribute
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: the smell to decomposition rather than, say, the meatpacking plant
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: next door. Oh, wow.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: The cognitive bias again.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Exactly. That bias infected law enforcement as well. If an
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: officer walks up to a porch, smells something horrific, but
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: already knows there's a citywide narrative blaming Ray's sausage, they
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: are likely to accept that narrative.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: So they just thought, oh, it's the sausage place. Yes.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: They are conducting a routine administrative check. They are not
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: in investigative mode. It is a fatal flaw in how
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: compartmentalized police work can be.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: The deputies verifying the address aren't talking to the other departments. Right.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: They are not necessarily communicating with the environmental inspectors or
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: the missing persons detectives.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: It is the ultimate silo effect. The left hand doesn't
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: know what the right hand is smelling.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Nell said.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: And because of that silo, deputies were standing feet away
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: from a literal house of horrors, checked a box on
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: a clipboard and walked away. But if you think he
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: was just quietly operating under the radar, you would be wrong.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: No, he wasn't quiet at all.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: There were active, chaotic, real-time emergencies happening at that house
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: that should have shattered those silos completely.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: The near misses in this case are agonizing to analyze
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: because they represent clear, undeniable moments where the system had
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: the opportunity to intervene and failed.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Let's walk through the timeline of these near misses. In
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: December 2008, a woman flagged down a police car in
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: the neighborhood.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Right out in the open. Yeah.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: She was visibly distraught, her clothes were disheveled, and she
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: was bleeding. She explicitly told the officers that she had
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: gone to Anthony Sowell's home voluntarily, but when he offered
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: her a beer and she declined, he violently assaulted her
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: and tried to tear her clothes off.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: This is a direct, violent escalation that perfectly mirrors his
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: previous conviction for attempted rape.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: It's his exact M.O.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: It is a textbook behavioral repeat.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: The police actually made an arrest. They took Sowell into
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: custody for the assault. But the charges were ultimately dropped.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: And the reason given is one of the most frustrating
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: phrases in the criminal justice system. The victim refused to cooperate.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: This raises an important question, though, about how the justice
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: system handles uncooperative victims in obvious distress. When we hear
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: that a victim refused to cooperate, we have to analyze
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: the environment and the power dynamics that lead to that decision.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Because it's not just for being stubborn.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: No, it's very easy to blame the victim for the
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: collapse of a case, but we need to look at
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: why a vulnerable woman, bleeding and assaulted, would walk away
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: from prosecution.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Especially considering his target demographic.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: Exactly. As we discuss, Sowell intentionally targeted marginalized women, often
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: dealing with addiction. A woman in that demographic may have
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: a profound, historically justified fear of the legal system.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if she has pending drug charges or warrants, going
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: on the record in a courtroom is incredibly dangerous for her.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Or she might fear being criminalized herself. Defense attorneys
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: are notorious for putting the victim's lifestyle on trial.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Right, they'd tear her apart.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: She knows that if she takes the stand, she will
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: be grilled about her substance use, her reasons for voluntarily
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: entering a registered sex offender's home, and her general character.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Which is just... Victim-blaming 101.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: And she might also legitimately fear retaliation from Sowell if
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: he makes bail. Predators rely on this exact calculus. They
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: know the justice system demands a quote-unquote perfect, unimpeachable victim
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: to secure a conviction easily.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: So by choosing victims the system views as imperfect, Sowell
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: virtually guaranteed his own immunity.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: He did.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: So he gets away with the December 2008 assault. Now,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I want to jump forward to September 22, 2009. We
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: just talked about the specific date. This was the exact
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: day the sheriff's deputies went to his porch, verified his address,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: and left without going inside.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: The administrative check.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Right. On that very same day, just hours after law
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: enforcement walked away from his front door, Sowell lures a
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: woman named Vanessa Gay into his house for drinks.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: The timing is just chilling.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: It really is. Once she is inside, the trap springs.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: He subdues her, wraps an extension cord around her neck,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: and attempts to strangle her. He then violently rapes her
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: until she loses consciousness.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: The juxtaposition of those two events occurring on the exact
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: same property on the exact same day is haunting.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: It forces you to realize how razor thin the line
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: between safety and absolute disaster really is. Law enforcement was
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: on the property during the daylight hours, satisfied with a
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: piece of paperwork. As the sun goes down, a woman
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: is fighting for her life in the same spot.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: It's devastating.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: If the deputies had arrived a few hours later... Or
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: if they had simply asked to step inside the doorway
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: to verify who else was in the home, the entire
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: timeline fractures. But they didn't. So Vanessa Gay is trapped.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: And we must talk about the profound psychological resilience and
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: presence of mind that Vanessa Gay displayed in order to
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: survive that nightmare.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: The details of her escape are just astounding. She manages
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: to negotiate with a serial killer while deeply traumatized and injured.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Which takes an unimaginable amount of strength.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: She promises him that if he lets her go, she
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: won't tell the police anything. And on top of her silence,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: she promises to bring him $ 50 in cash.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: She essentially buys her own life for $ 50.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: That negotiation is incredibly revealing about Salwell's psychology, isn't it?
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Yes. The fact that he accepted that deal, that he
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: paused a violent, lethal assault, for the promise of a
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: nominal amount of cash shows a terrifying level of hubris.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: He just didn't care.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: He didn't view her as a threat. He viewed her transactionally.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: He was so confident in his control over his environment
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: and so confident that a marginalized woman wouldn't go to
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: the police that he let her walk out the front door.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: And for a time, his hubris was validated. Vanessa Gay
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: did not immediately report the assault.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Which is completely understandable.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Right. Given the trauma, the fear of retaliation, and the
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: dynamics we just discussed regarding how the system treats vulnerable victims,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: it took her over a month to gather the courage
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: to approach law enforcement.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: And in that intervening month, the chaos at the Imperial
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Avenue house continued to spill out into the open.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it didn't stop. On October 20, 2009, neighbors called
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: 911 with a genuinely unbelievable report. A completely nude woman
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: had either fallen or been pushed out of a second-story
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: window at Anthony Saul's house.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: If you're an officer responding to that dispatch call, a
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: nude woman plummeting from the second floor of a registered
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: sex offender's residence, every alarm bell in your head should
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: be ringing.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: You would think this is the undeniable neon flashing red flag.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: The police arrive at the scene. Saul is there, and
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: he calmly explains to the officers that the woman simply
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: fell out of the window by accident because they had
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: been on a massive drug binge all day.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: And they accepted that.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Because the injured woman herself refused to speak to the authorities...
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: The police concluded they had no proof a crime had occurred.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: They left.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: This incident is the ultimate catastrophic manifestation of the systemic
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: bias we've been tracking.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: The officers are presented with a highly suspicious, violent, chaotic scene,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: but they view the entire event through the lens of
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: a drug binge.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: A narrative that is conveniently spoon-fed to them by the
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: predator himself. Because the victim is uncooperative, they allow their
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: inherent bias against substance users To completely override the blatant
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: circumstantial evidence of a crisis.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: They see a drug problem, not a violent crime.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: It is maddening to see the system fail to protect
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: these women time and time again, simply because they don't
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: fit the mold of a cooperative witness. But eventually, the
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: dam breaks.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Finally.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Nine days after the incident with the window, Vanessa Gay,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: the woman who negotiated her escape on September 22, goes
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: to the police. She officially reports the assault, the strangulation,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: and the rape.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Her immense bravery is the catalyst for the entire resolution
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: of this case.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: She broke it wide open.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: She provided the actionable, probable cause that the neighborhood smell
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: complaints and the administrative registry checks could not.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Based entirely on Vanessa Gay's report, authorities secure a warrant
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: for Anthony Sowell's arrest. On October 29, 2009, they return
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: to the house on Imperial Avenue.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: And this time, they're going inside.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Sowell isn't home, but this time, the warrant grants them
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: the legal authority to breach the doors. They go inside,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: they are immediately hit with the overwhelming smell of decomposition,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: and they begin to uncover the bodies.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: The scope of his violence is finally exposed to the light,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: bringing the horrific era of the Cleveland Strangler to an end.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Which brings us to the aftermath. We need to look
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: at how the legal system, the community, and the physical
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: environment process this trauma and look at the scars that remain.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: The resolution, fresh as it is.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Right. Anthony Soule is captured shortly after the raid. He
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: is brought into the legal system and charged with an
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: overwhelming 85 criminal counts.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: 85 counts.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: The indictment included aggravated murder, rape, abuse of corpses, and kidnapping.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: And he attempted to utilize the legal system's mechanisms for
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: psychiatric defense, didn't he?
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: He pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Right. But the calculated nature of his crimes, the deliberate luring,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: the targeted demographics, the concealment of the bodies, undermined that
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: defense completely.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: A jury wasn't going to buy that. No.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: The jury found him guilty on all counts, and he
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: was sentenced to death.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: But the state of Ohio never executed him. In February 2021,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: at the age of 61, Anthony Sowell died while incarcerated.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: He died in prison.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, prison officials confirmed he succumbed to a terminal illness,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: and they specifically clarified it was not related to COVID-19.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: He spent his final days in the end-of-life care unit
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: at the Franklin Medical Center within the state prison system.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: So on a purely legal level, the criminal justice system
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: processed the event.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: He was removed from society, adjudicated, incarcerated. and died in
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: state custody. Right.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: That is retributive justice functioning as designed.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: But the spatial and communal resolution, how a neighborhood heals
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: from housing a monster... is infinitely more complex.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: It really is. Let's look at the physical space itself.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: The house on Imperial Avenue didn't just sit there. In 2011,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: the city completely demolished it.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: They wiped the structure off the map.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they didn't just leave a vacant, blighted lot.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Fast forward to November 2021, and the land was transformed
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: into a memorial park called the Garden of Eleven Angels,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: dedicated to the memory of the victims.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: The psychology behind that kind of spatial justice is profound.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Half so.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: When a location becomes infamous for horrific violence, it often
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: attracts dark tourism or it simply stands as a rotting
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: visual trigger for the trauma of the community.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Right. Nobody wants to walk past the murder house every day.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Demolishing the house is a form of ritualistic cleansing.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: It removes the physical fortress where the predator felt invincible.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: And replaces it with something beautiful. Yes.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: By replacing the void with the Garden of Eleven Angels,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: the community made a deliberate choice to ensure the victims
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: outlast the killer's legacy. They reclaimed the environment, transforming a
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: site of profound violation into a permanent place of dignity, honor,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: and reflection.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: It's a beautiful way for a neighborhood to try and heal.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: The criminal is gone. The victors are memorialized. But when
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: we zoom out just slightly and look right next door,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: we see Ray's sausage. And that is the unresolved thread
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: of this entire narrative.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: It really is the glaring gap in how society handles
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: the peripheral damage of catastrophic crime.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Because, so what does this all mean? What about restorative
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: justice for them?
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Right. What happens to the business?
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: The source material highlights that Ray's Sausage is still fighting
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: for survival. They are still carrying the financial wounds of
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: their proximity to evil.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Decades later, almost.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: They still want to expand and relocate. They are currently
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: seeking a highly rigorous federal USDA certification so they can
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: sell their products across state lines outside of Ohio. But
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: they are still trying to dig themselves out of an $ 80, 000
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: hole that the city threw them into when they wrongly
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: accused a family business of smelling like a serial killer.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: We have complex legal frameworks to punish the guilty. We
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: have evolved societal mechanisms to honor and memorialize the victims.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: but we have virtually no institutional mechanisms to make innocent
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: bystanders whole again.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Not at all.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: When a business's livelihood is trampled during the agonizing period
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: of systemic denial before the truth is uncovered, the system
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: essentially shrugs and walks away. The burden of survival is
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: placed entirely on the collateral damage.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: It's a staggering reality to process. To recap the journey
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: we've gone on today, we started with a historic, Family-owned
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: meatpacking plant that was aggressively scapegoated and forced to rip
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: up its own infrastructure because of an unexplained odor.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: A terrible misdirection.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: We tracked that failure through a terrifying blind spot in
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: community policing, where a known predator was checking the administrative
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: boxes while committing horrific violence right under the nose of
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: deputies who wouldn't step past the front porch.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Standing right on the edge of the crime scene.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: We examined the systemic biases that allowed vulnerable, bleeding women
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: to be dismissed by law enforcement as uncooperative nuisances or
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: drug addicts. And finally, we saw how the incredible survival
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: instinct and bravery of Vanessa Gay shattered that illusion and
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: brought a reign of terror to an end.
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  Speaker 2: The entire narrative serves as a stark, unavoidable reminder of
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  Speaker 2: the limitations of the system. Bureaucracy registries and municipal inspections
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  Speaker 2: are only as effective as the human beings operating them.
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  Speaker 1: And humans are flawed.
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  Speaker 2: Deeply. When those human beings are blinded by cognitive bias,
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  Speaker 2: constrained by administrative silos, or influenced by societal apathy toward
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  Speaker 2: marginalized people, massive fractures occur. The most vulnerable individuals fall
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  Speaker 2: into those fractures, and justice is delayed at an unimaginable
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  Speaker 2: human and economic cost.
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  Speaker 1: I want to leave you with a chilling concept to
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  Speaker 1: consider as we wrap up this deep dive. Think about
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  Speaker 1: the profound anonymity of modern neighborhoods.
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  Speaker 2: Well, not the thought.
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  Speaker 1: We all share property lines. We all walk past fences,
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  Speaker 1: closed blinds, and local businesses every single day. We rely
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  Speaker 1: so heavily on the illusion that if something were truly
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  Speaker 1: terribly wrong in our environment, the systems in place would
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  Speaker 1: alert us.
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  Speaker 2: That someone would notice.
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  Speaker 1: But if a historic family business can be aggressively blamed
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  Speaker 1: and financially ruined over a terrible smell that was actually
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  Speaker 1: a serial killer's graveyard next door, how well do any
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  Speaker 1: of us truly know the realities we inhabit? How many
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  Speaker 1: diagnostic muddy waters are we wading through right now, assuming
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  Speaker 1: everything is perfectly fine just because the surface looks calm?
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  Speaker 2: It is a deeply unsettling question. The comfort of the
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  Speaker 2: mundane often masks the extraordinary, both good and evil.
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  Speaker 1: It really does. Thank you so much for joining us
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  Speaker 1: for this deep dive. Keep questioning the environment around you,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll see you next time.