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The One Where Lala Learns About Furries In School · Untraditionally Lala

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Speaker 1: I want to start us off a little differently today.
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Speaker 2: Jess Utah people working together.
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Speaker 1: Utah.
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Speaker 2: What a great place, Stupie, you can go, but there's
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Speaker 2: none that compare.
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Speaker 1: This is the place, by.
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Speaker 2: The way, welcome back and give them all a podcast.
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Speaker 2: I'm for Rush out of Salt Lake City, Utah. And
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Speaker 2: I had to bust into song because I will say, Utah.
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Speaker 1: This is the place. I fucking agree.
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Speaker 3: Wait, what is that? Is that the state song or something?
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Speaker 3: Where is that from?
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Speaker 2: It's a song that all the elementary schools would perform. Okay,
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Speaker 2: school we would sing a bunch of songs about just
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Speaker 2: like Utah heritage, yeah, how the state came to be.
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Speaker 2: But we performed that one first and then there were
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Speaker 2: a bunch of other songs and then we would end
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Speaker 2: on that song.
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Speaker 1: And I'm telling you it was the jam for me.
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Speaker 1: Like I was like, this is the goat. This song
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Speaker 1: hits different.
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Speaker 3: Getting down to the state song, yeah or whatever it is,
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Speaker 3: that's hilarious.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So there's that, Okay, amazing. So I went to Utah
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Speaker 3: on Friday.
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Speaker 2: We got back, well today this will air on Wednesday,
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Speaker 2: but we got back last night, Monday night. And there's
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Speaker 2: something that Utah does to my soul. I didn't appreciate
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Speaker 2: Utah until I left. Then I was like, wow, I
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Speaker 2: really just like was raised in a great place. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: you know, and I wasn't raised Mormon. There's a lot
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Speaker 2: of Mormons out there. Which, by the way, if you
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Speaker 2: guys haven't started watching Under the Banner of Heaven, you
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Speaker 2: are fucking up.
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Speaker 3: I haven't watched it yet, but Kyle has been watching it.
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Speaker 1: Loves it. I've asked you to watch.
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Speaker 3: I know I need to watch. I was catching up
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Speaker 3: on Ozark last night. Is it that's a great one?
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Speaker 3: Is it dark? Am I gonna be sad after watching it?
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Speaker 1: You're going to be sad?
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Speaker 2: In the first episode, it's it's a it's gut wrenching,
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Speaker 2: like so sad, but you're more it's more of like
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Speaker 2: a shock.
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Speaker 3: Okay, that's I like that.
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Speaker 2: And they deep dive into how the Mormon Church was created.
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Speaker 2: And you know, I'm not going to say a lot about.
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Speaker 1: It, but I will say scary. It's very scary.
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Speaker 3: That's next on my list.
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Speaker 1: So scary.
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Speaker 3: Oh no, see, I might have not I might have
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Speaker 3: to watch it in the morning on the weekends because
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Speaker 3: they might have nightmares.
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Speaker 2: It does mess with you when I watch it late
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Speaker 2: at night, Like there was one night, like a couple
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Speaker 2: of weeks ago, I had watched the first episode. I
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Speaker 2: woke up in the middle of the night. I had
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Speaker 2: this burning sensation in me. I was I ripped my
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Speaker 2: eyemask off. I felt like the devil was in the room.
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Speaker 2: And I kid you not, and I'm not religious. I'm
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Speaker 2: more spiritual, but I believe in God, that's my higher power.
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Speaker 2: And I was like, God, you need to fight off
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Speaker 2: whatever energy is in this room right now because it's scary.
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Speaker 3: Freaks me out. Thanks giving me anxiety. Okay, you guys,
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Speaker 3: So just a precursor, Lala told me. She said, oh,
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Speaker 3: do I have some things to talk about, some topics
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Speaker 3: to talk about with you today. But she didn't tell
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Speaker 3: me any of them. Oh so we're finding them all
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Speaker 3: out together.
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Speaker 1: All right.
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Speaker 2: First, let me tell you this, and I pray Cheryl,
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Speaker 2: my sister in law, or Brandon, my brother, if you're
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Speaker 2: listening to this podcast and the kids are in the car,
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Speaker 2: or at least London, you need to.
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Speaker 1: Stop it right now. Stop the podcast, turn it off.
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Speaker 2: So this is anyone for any kids, or just let
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Speaker 2: anybody's kids who who still has beliefs in certain things
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Speaker 2: when Christmas time comes around.
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Speaker 1: Stop the podcast.
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Speaker 2: Okay, So we're sitting at brunch with my brother's sister
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Speaker 2: in law and his kids, and we're talking about aliens
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Speaker 2: and my nephew, who's like thirteen, he like doesn't believe
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Speaker 2: in them.
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Speaker 3: And I was shook, like you're telling me that we're.
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Speaker 1: The only living things. Like I was just like shook,
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Speaker 1: and I was like, I believe in aliens.
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Speaker 2: And my niece says I do too, and I sit
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Speaker 2: back and I was like, but I but I also
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Speaker 2: believe that Santa Claus is still real and she goes.
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Speaker 1: Well, so do I are you saying that he's not?
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Speaker 3: Oh no?
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Speaker 2: And my mind every when I said that, the whole table,
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Speaker 2: every adult just stop dead stare at me, like, how
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Speaker 2: the fuck are you gonna reel this one in?
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Speaker 1: Oh no, so my mind you should. I was like, compute, compute.
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Speaker 2: I wish I could in the world trying to put
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Speaker 2: pieces together, and I did in a matter of seconds.
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Speaker 3: I was like, no, he he's real.
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Speaker 2: But what people think is that Santa's the one that
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Speaker 2: watches us year round, and I don't believe that. I
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Speaker 2: believe he stays in the North Pole and makes toys,
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Speaker 2: and I believe the elves are the ones that are
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Speaker 2: watching us year round.
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Speaker 3: Oh my god, that just like it gave me anxiety
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Speaker 3: when you told me so. Wait did she believe that?
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Speaker 1: Did she buy it? Yeah?
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Speaker 2: She was like, no, I know that because our elf
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Speaker 2: watches us.
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Speaker 1: Picky.
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Speaker 3: How old is she She's nine? Oh yeah, give her
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Speaker 3: a few more years.
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Speaker 2: My Mormon grandma is the one that broke it to
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Speaker 2: me that Santa wasn't real. Wait, because I walked up
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Speaker 2: because kids at school.
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Speaker 3: I was in the third grade, and I was like, Grandma,
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Speaker 3: is Santa Claus real?
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Speaker 1: She goes, I'm gonna be honest with you, Lauren, No,
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Speaker 1: he's not real. My dad was pissed.
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Speaker 3: He was.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 2: I remember walking outside of her like cute little Mormon
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Speaker 2: looking home, and it was like a winter evening where
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Speaker 2: this sky gets like.
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Speaker 1: A really pretty like nave, like light navy, if that
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Speaker 1: makes sense.
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Speaker 2: Yes, snow everywhere, and I was just so defeated, sad. Yes.
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Speaker 3: See, that's the difference between us as kids. Because my
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Speaker 3: parents told me. I asked them, I said, Santa Reel
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Speaker 3: I was probably like eleven. Wait, a little too old.
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Speaker 3: He said, is Santa Reel? And they said no, he's not.
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Speaker 3: And then I said okay, and I turned around and
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Speaker 3: I said, what the fuck? Did they know he's real? Right?
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Speaker 3: And they're just insane?
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Speaker 1: I do believe he's real.
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Speaker 3: He is. I don't care what anyone says, like.
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Speaker 1: He flies in a sleigh.
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Speaker 3: All, well, great, save great. I wish I could have
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Speaker 3: seen your face when she asked you that, mom.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, when I almost outed Santa Claus not being real
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Speaker 2: to London, what was your reaction? I was looking at you.
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Speaker 1: No, it was so terrifying.
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Speaker 3: Did she say? Did she save it?
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Speaker 1: Well?
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Speaker 3: Lisa? Like, do you think London bought her?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: The entire table was like.
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Speaker 3: I did.
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Speaker 2: And then I went into like, you want to know
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Speaker 2: how I know he's real because when La La was
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Speaker 2: sneaking into Gigi and Poppy's room one night on Christmas Eve,
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Speaker 2: I looked down and I saw his twinkling eyes.
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Speaker 1: Going ready to go up the chimney. You said that, yes,
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Speaker 1: because I did. I did see that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and all the things.
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Speaker 2: Had she been older, Had she been older, she would
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Speaker 2: have been like, these motherfuckers are trying now.
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Speaker 1: Dogs protest too much, y'all they're doing too much.
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Speaker 2: So the next thing, I have some topics that I
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Speaker 2: learned about in Utah be high state.
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Speaker 3: Okay, Jess, have you ever heard of furrize?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, we need to talk about this.
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Speaker 3: Wait, let's meet. Let's see if we've heard of the
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Speaker 3: same things, because you remember we mentioned.
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Speaker 1: It on tour.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I learned about freeze in the school system.
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Speaker 3: Now, wait, you're scaring me, are you this? Because furries
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Speaker 3: to me when I think of it, that's something sexual.
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Speaker 2: Okay, in the school system. So my best friend from
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Speaker 2: back home, her kids go to school in Utah. They
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Speaker 2: now and this is like a real thing. You cannot
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Speaker 2: discriminate against someone who who identifies.
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Speaker 1: As an animal.
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Speaker 2: They'll wear ears, they'll wear a tail. Teachers are now
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Speaker 2: putting bowls in the classroom for them to drink out
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Speaker 2: of and eat out of like animals. When they're asked questions,
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Speaker 2: they can meow or bark or moo or whatever they identify.
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Speaker 2: And then my friend also said, she said, I don't
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Speaker 2: know if this is true or not, but they're going
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Speaker 2: to start putting litter boxes in the bathrooms because you
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Speaker 2: must not discriminate against the children who are identifying as furries.
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Speaker 3: Okay, are you sure, because like you tell me that
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Speaker 3: and I'm like, you've got the wrong information.
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Speaker 2: Well that's why I want to talk about it, because
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Speaker 2: it comes from a pretty reliable source. And it comes
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Speaker 2: from one of my dearest friends. Her name's Olivia, and
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Speaker 2: she does this girl's hair who's like thirteen, and she
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Speaker 2: goes to school. And this is what this girl has
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Speaker 2: told Olivia. Okay, Like this girl, she's thirteen. I don't
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Speaker 2: know her name, but I want to get her on
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Speaker 2: the podcast.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, she said, I pretend to be a furry sometimes,
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Speaker 1: like I'll bark at people in the hall. I'm like,
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Speaker 1: this girl's dope.
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Speaker 2: But I need someone to shed some light because I'm
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Speaker 2: a liberated woman. Okay, I am like you do you
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Speaker 2: boo this I just cannot comprehend, like not having to
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Speaker 2: take tests because you identify as an animal, so and
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Speaker 2: animals don't take tests.
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Speaker 3: There's no Okay, there's no And I'm not doubting you.
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Speaker 3: I believe it's like I'm sure some school systems do this. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: but to me, I'm like, there's no way because I'm
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Speaker 3: just like you. I'm like liberated. I think if you
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Speaker 3: feel you were born whatever. If you're a certain age
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Speaker 3: and you feel you were born hey, I feel like
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Speaker 3: I identify more as a woman or a man, or
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Speaker 3: a boy or a girl. You know, talk to your parents,
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Speaker 3: binary any of that. Talk you know, do have those conversations,
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Speaker 3: talk to your parents, talk to your teachers, do all that.
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Speaker 3: But I feel like when you get into the animal
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Speaker 3: of it all, then it's really taking It's like taking
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Speaker 3: the what am I trying to say, It's taking the
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Speaker 3: not severity, but it's lessening the importance of that. I
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Speaker 3: feel like as a little boy or a little girl, Hey,
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Speaker 3: I feel this way. I feel like a girl or
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Speaker 3: a boy. I feel like I was born in the
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Speaker 3: wrong body, as the wrong gender, any of that. But
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Speaker 3: I feel like it's lessening that when it's like, well,
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Speaker 3: I well, then I feel like I was born a cat. Well,
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Speaker 3: I feel like I was born at whatever. I'm just
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Speaker 3: like it to me, it lessens that. Does that make
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Speaker 3: any sense?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Well, I feel like I because and here's the thing,
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Speaker 2: I have a lot of opinions about this. Yeah, I
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Speaker 2: don't want to offend anybody, right, So I would like
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Speaker 2: someone to maybe shed some light. If you are a
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Speaker 2: furry listening to the podcast, Yeah, which if you are,
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Speaker 2: I need to know because right now I have a
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Speaker 2: whole lot of shit going on in my mind. However,
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Speaker 2: my daughter, my daughter puts her food on the ground
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Speaker 2: and eats it up like a dog, right because she
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Speaker 2: watches the dogs eating and she thinks that's how she
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Speaker 2: is supposed to eat. And I have to tell her
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Speaker 2: we can't eat off the ground like that. And I'm like,
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Speaker 2: oh my gosh, do I have a furry well?
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Speaker 3: Like, also, did we forget about?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Do you know how many times I drink water from
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Speaker 3: a bowl on the ground and ate food from a
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Speaker 3: bowl because pretend when I was a kid, When I
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Speaker 3: was a kid, you guys, I have to meet that there,
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Speaker 3: just like last week when I walk into the office,
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Speaker 3: like it's called playing pretend. The amount of times I
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Speaker 3: dressed up as like an old man, as a little
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Speaker 3: girl or whatever is like an an animal or like
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Speaker 3: pretended I was a frog. And to me, there's something
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Speaker 3: about it's so important to play and play for ten
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Speaker 3: as a kid, that's so important and to get outside
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Speaker 3: and to be like I'm a dog in this. But
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Speaker 3: I just don't know how I feel. I need to
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Speaker 3: process my feelings. I mean, my immediate feelings are like,
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Speaker 3: not the fuck. I'm just gonna be honest. My immediate
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Speaker 3: feelings are like, no, you're not. We need to teach
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Speaker 3: children the importance of knowing the difference between an animal
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Speaker 3: and a human.
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Speaker 2: By the way, you can't half acid, all right, If
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Speaker 2: you're gonna identify as a furry, then when we go
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Speaker 2: in the airplane, you need to get in your crate
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Speaker 2: and you have to stay under the seat until the
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Speaker 2: plane is thirty thousand feet in the air, where then
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Speaker 2: the pilot comes on and says you can turn on
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Speaker 2: electronics and you can hold your dog.
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Speaker 3: You okay, and then I will take you out of
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Speaker 3: the crate. But what do you think about because furry
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Speaker 3: to me has always been the I've heard of, Like
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Speaker 3: there's a sexual component of being a furry, which is
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Speaker 3: you wear these like mascot, full on mascot costumes and
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Speaker 3: you go to these quote unquote furry parties and it's
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Speaker 3: just like rubbing on each other. No one ever takes
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Speaker 3: off their mask or their costume, but it's like an
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Speaker 3: orgy with this full on mascot costume on. So to me,
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Speaker 3: that is like if all the adults are consenting and
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Speaker 3: you know what you're walking into, and you want to
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Speaker 3: dress up, you do your you do the damn for.
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Speaker 1: I agree with you.
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Speaker 3: But that's very different.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So if you know anything about furries or what I'm
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Speaker 2: talking about, and if what I was told is in
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Speaker 2: fact true that they're putting these dog or not dog
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Speaker 2: but animal bowls in classrooms and litter boxes in the bathroom, like,
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Speaker 2: please open my mind, because I'm a girl who is
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Speaker 2: open to it all. I can get down with things.
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Speaker 2: Just make me understand. I don't know that I'll ever
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Speaker 2: understand this, but this leads me. When you say sexual
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Speaker 2: this leads me to the next thing that I want
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Speaker 2: to talk about in school systems.
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Speaker 1: All right?
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Speaker 3: Oh god? So this is on Utah Parents United.
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Speaker 1: It's an Instagram page.
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Speaker 2: Okay, this is called My Body is Growing, a guide
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Speaker 2: for children ages four to eight years old.
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Speaker 1: It makes me sick. This is in the book. Okay.
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Speaker 2: Sabrina's vagina becomes moist and warm and Marco's penis gets
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Speaker 2: very still. Marco then pushes his penis into Sabrina's vagina,
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Speaker 2: always in and out. That feels great for both of them.
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Speaker 2: When the feeling is nicest Marco's penis sprays semen into
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Speaker 2: Sabrina's vagina. Okay, this is in a book that was
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Speaker 2: in a library a school in Utah, a library for
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Speaker 2: a guide for four to eight years old.
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Speaker 3: Okay, oh my god, I'm.
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Speaker 1: As open as it gets. Yea right, let's talk about
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Speaker 1: it all. I'll tell you one thing.
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Speaker 2: I drop my kid off to school, who's four, five, six, seven, eight,
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Speaker 2: and Ocean picks this book up and reads it. You
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Speaker 2: are going to regret the day that you were fucking
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Speaker 2: born and allowed this book inside of that fucking school,
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Speaker 2: because I will.
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Speaker 3: Raise hell and guys, just so you know. So I'm
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Speaker 3: looking at this. It's Utah Parents United, because Lalla just
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Speaker 3: handed it over to me. It's the book is called,
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Speaker 3: like she said, my body is growing, a guide for
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Speaker 3: four to eight year olds. And it's like a cartoon.
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Speaker 3: Like this isn't a medical book, not that it matters,
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Speaker 3: because this is a guide for four to eight year old,
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Speaker 3: So already what this is a literal like it's a cartoon.
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Speaker 3: On the this looks like a children's book. If I
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Speaker 3: were a kid, I would be drawn to pick this up. Yes,
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Speaker 3: because it's a boy and a girl in the front
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Speaker 3: and then when you scroll over, if you go to
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Speaker 3: their the Instagram page, you'll see the part that La
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Speaker 3: La just read about Saverina's vagina becomes it's a animated
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Speaker 3: photo of two as a guy and a girl having sex,
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Speaker 3: and there's a like you can't see boobs or vagina
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Speaker 3: or penis, but you can see them on top of
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Speaker 3: each other. And there's a little teddy bear on the pillow,
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Speaker 3: almost like showing that they're younger I'm not gonna say kids,
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Speaker 3: but like showing that they maybe aren't full adults. So
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Speaker 3: my only thing is like, it's not just it doesn't
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Speaker 3: look like a medical book. That's like here parents targeted
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Speaker 3: at parents to talk to their older children, I mean
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Speaker 3: four to eight years old as wild. But no, it's
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Speaker 3: like you just have to go to see it because
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Speaker 3: it's a totally different vibe. You hear it, and then
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Speaker 3: you look at how the book is drawn and designed
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Speaker 3: and it looks like a kid's book, and I think
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Speaker 3: that is crazy. I think it's one thing as a
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Speaker 3: parent if you choose to say yes, if my kid
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Speaker 3: ever asks when they're however, hey mom, dad, what's said?
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Speaker 3: You have the freedom and the right to tell them
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Speaker 3: however you want. But the fact that that's just on
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Speaker 3: the shelf of an elementary school in a library, willy
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Speaker 3: nilly for a five year old to just pick up
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Speaker 3: and read, I don't know, that's wild to me.
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Speaker 2: Well, it was written and illustrated by Dagmar Geisler. Dagmar's
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Speaker 2: shame on you for writing a book like this for
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Speaker 2: a four to eight years of age.
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Speaker 3: And that was tell me again, is that in a library?
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Speaker 1: It was in a Yes.
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Speaker 2: So basically, Utah Parents United is parents who get together
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Speaker 2: and they share what their children are exposed to in schools. Yes,
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Speaker 2: And I think that that is completely inappropriate for the
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Speaker 2: ages four to eight.
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Speaker 3: They don't need to know about sex at that age.
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Speaker 3: And if here's my question, though, because I think that
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Speaker 3: absolutely inappropriate that book put there without I mean, the illustration,
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Speaker 3: the fact that it looks like a children's book. Do
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Speaker 3: you think though, because this is an I think to
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Speaker 3: make clear how you feel, if there's a five whatever,
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Speaker 3: four or five six year old who comes up to
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Speaker 3: their mom and dad in the home and says, mom
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Speaker 3: and dad, I heard someone say sex. What sex? Do
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Speaker 3: you think it's appropriate if they want.
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Speaker 2: To tell and you have the conversation, okay, for your
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Speaker 2: kid to be at school at a library and they
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Speaker 2: just happen to pick this book up and they start reading. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I don't like that. And you know me, Jess, and
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Speaker 2: I am so open open. Yeah, let's talk about sex
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Speaker 2: all day long. Let's talk about blow jobs. We have
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Speaker 2: to protect the youth because if they're exposed to too
18:38
Speaker 2: much too young, as they get older, things go astray
18:44
Speaker 2: and unhealthy habits and addictions start happening.
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Speaker 1: Again.
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Speaker 2: I have trauma from what I've experienced the last however
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Speaker 2: many months. Very protective of ocean. I'm very protective of
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Speaker 2: the youth and how much you know, we just can't.
19:06
Speaker 2: We can't expose them to too much too young.
19:08
Speaker 3: I get that, and I have to protect and I
19:10
Speaker 3: think there's also a time and a place, especially when
19:12
Speaker 3: they're that young, and the time in the place, and
19:15
Speaker 3: if they don't let's say it's a child who doesn't
19:17
Speaker 3: have a parent and they want to ask that question,
19:20
Speaker 3: then they go to a guardian or they ask a teacher,
19:22
Speaker 3: and then in my belief, it's one hundred percent the
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Speaker 3: teacher's responsibility to go to the guardian and say this
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Speaker 3: child asked about this, Is this something you would like
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Speaker 3: to talk about if you would like me to talk
19:33
Speaker 3: to them about it? What do you want me to say?
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Speaker 2: Right?
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Speaker 3: Not in a book that looks like a cartoon book
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Speaker 3: that any kid would want to pick up. And also
19:42
Speaker 3: the fact that it's like this feels great again, this
19:47
Speaker 3: is just me. But when I'm a mother, if I've
19:49
Speaker 3: always thought when I'm a mother, I'm gonna use penis vagina,
19:52
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna use the words yeah, but I don't.
19:57
Speaker 3: I don't think if they're that young. And let's say
19:59
Speaker 3: my f year old comes to me and says, what sex,
20:02
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna sit there. I'm gonna tell them strictly
20:04
Speaker 3: scientifically one hundred. I'm gonna use statements like like christ
20:09
Speaker 3: and Balandack Sheppard do this. I heard this on Dax's podcast.
20:12
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna use statements like the woman places the
20:15
Speaker 3: man's penis into her vagina, because to me, it feels
20:17
Speaker 3: like that's showing without saying, without doing too much. When
20:21
Speaker 3: they're so young, that's showing like a consent, that showing
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Speaker 3: the woman has control. Almost right, But I'm not gonna
20:27
Speaker 3: go and then she like at five years old, and
20:30
Speaker 3: then she gets wet and it feels great.
20:32
Speaker 2: What no, and his penis sprays, spreaming into her vagina.
20:38
Speaker 2: And then in that illustration on that page on the
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Speaker 2: side shows birth control all the ways that you prevent pregnancy.
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Speaker 3: Okay, so it shows and also the man sprays the
20:52
Speaker 3: semen into the vagina, so there's no condom, Like, what
20:56
Speaker 3: do you even? That's a lot that does make me
21:00
Speaker 3: a little queasy. And how old is.
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Speaker 2: This book by the way, because they're showing all of
21:06
Speaker 2: the ways a woman can prevent but there's no condom here.
21:11
Speaker 3: There's no condom.
21:12
Speaker 1: No, there's a diaphragm.
21:14
Speaker 3: Oh, there's an iud can't be that old.
21:17
Speaker 2: There's birth control pills, there's foam caps, but all of
21:21
Speaker 2: these are women are for the vagina.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
21:25
Speaker 3: This makes me think this book is like, we got
21:27
Speaker 3: to look a little more into this, Like it's almost
21:29
Speaker 3: like it's that illustrator and writer like the head of
21:33
Speaker 3: some sort of weird cults.
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Speaker 2: I don't know, but I saw and I'm telling you what,
21:37
Speaker 2: Ocean Kent picks that book up at the age of.
21:40
Speaker 1: Four, I am going insane.
21:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't even imagine. I'm gonna look that. I
21:48
Speaker 3: want to look more into that because I'm like, that
21:50
Speaker 3: is crazy town. That's crazy.
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that.
21:53
Speaker 2: If your kid comes to you at a young age
21:55
Speaker 2: and asks you about things, to sweep it under the
21:57
Speaker 2: rug bike. Okay, the conversation, but certainly don't have books
22:01
Speaker 2: like that in the library.
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Speaker 1: No, okay.
22:03
Speaker 2: So the person that posted this, it says, last week,
22:06
Speaker 2: my two little grade school nieces were reading this Salt
22:09
Speaker 2: Lake School District school book to their grandmother. It encourages
22:13
Speaker 2: them to explore their sexuality, put things up their rectums,
22:16
Speaker 2: and embraces sex with children. They were encouraged not to
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Speaker 2: tell their parents. Pictures and texts from the book reposted
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Speaker 2: in the comments below.
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Speaker 1: Please share.
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Speaker 3: Oh done, Send them to jail, Send the writer, send
22:31
Speaker 3: anyone who is promoting what you just said to jail.
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Speaker 1: Bye.
22:36
Speaker 3: Are you joking? That's what it says, don't tell your parents. Yeah,
22:41
Speaker 3: and everything else you just said, that's even like too
22:43
Speaker 3: horrific to repeat. Goodbye, goodbye, you're all getting you're all
22:48
Speaker 3: going to jail.
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Speaker 1: It's so, what is going on?
22:54
Speaker 3: That's wild?
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Speaker 2: Protect the youth that all costs so that they can
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Speaker 2: grow up to be beautiful spirits make a difference in
23:04
Speaker 2: the world. They can't be exposed to too much too young. Okay,
23:09
Speaker 2: I stand firm on that. There's nothing you can say
23:12
Speaker 2: to me that will change my fucking mind. When Ocean
23:15
Speaker 2: Count was born, I saw the beauty in the world.
23:18
Speaker 2: Everything I wanted this world to be was like right
23:21
Speaker 2: in my little human that I gave birth to.
23:23
Speaker 1: And then I saw all the ugliness and.
23:24
Speaker 2: I was like, I will do everything in my power, yeah,
23:28
Speaker 2: to like fight off the evil, Like, don't come near
23:32
Speaker 2: my child with the shit. Yeah, we should as adults
23:37
Speaker 2: do everything in our power to protect them. And in
23:40
Speaker 2: the unfortunate event that young humans are exposed to too
23:44
Speaker 2: much too soon, and we know that happens all the
23:46
Speaker 2: time and it's heartbreaking, then we just have to pray,
23:49
Speaker 2: which like I do every night, we pray that these
23:52
Speaker 2: children find strength and guidance through you know, other ways,
23:56
Speaker 2: and can become one her full powerful, strong adults. Yeah.
24:04
Speaker 2: When I was a step parent, she brought me this book.
24:09
Speaker 2: I don't know where the book came from. I'm drawing
24:11
Speaker 2: a blank and she was looking through it and she
24:14
Speaker 2: told me that she wanted me to look at it.
24:15
Speaker 2: She said, I don't know if this is appropriate for
24:17
Speaker 2: a kid. So I looked through it and it was
24:21
Speaker 2: basically teaching It was nothing horrific. It was just basically
24:25
Speaker 2: teaching you body positivity, no matter what you looked like.
24:28
Speaker 2: So there were a bunch of drawings of different.
24:31
Speaker 1: Bodies without clothes on.
24:33
Speaker 2: Okay obviously, but it was showing like to just embrace
24:37
Speaker 2: your your body the way it is right. And she
24:41
Speaker 2: asked me if I thought it was appropriate, and I said,
24:43
Speaker 2: I want you to make that call. Do you feel
24:46
Speaker 2: like when you look at this? And I told her
24:49
Speaker 2: what it was trying to teach. I said, this is
24:52
Speaker 2: why these are in here, because we have to learn
24:54
Speaker 2: to love ourselves.
24:56
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you're too young for it?
24:58
Speaker 2: And she looked at it again and she handed it
24:59
Speaker 2: about to me and said, I think I'm too young
25:01
Speaker 2: for it, and I said, perfect. We won't look at
25:03
Speaker 2: it until you feel like you're you're ready. But I
25:06
Speaker 2: explained to her why the image it was nothing like this,
25:08
Speaker 2: by the way.
25:09
Speaker 3: Now, but what a smart and that's I mean, that's
25:13
Speaker 3: so great, what a smart girl, and what a like
25:17
Speaker 3: a great learning moment for her and you and you
25:21
Speaker 3: just not being like yet oh my god, this is
25:24
Speaker 3: too or like forcing it on or being like yes,
25:26
Speaker 3: you should love this, like toxic positivity, embrace this, read
25:30
Speaker 3: it all. You gave her the option and are you
25:33
Speaker 3: comfortable with this? And that's so important. Again, I'm not
25:36
Speaker 3: a mom, but to me, it's like teaching, if you know, somehow,
25:40
Speaker 3: teaching children to hear that and feel that gut feeling
25:45
Speaker 3: and trust that intuition, right, because you're not going to
25:48
Speaker 3: be in every situation, no, And if they're in a situation,
25:52
Speaker 3: they've got to learn to trust that that gut feeling
25:55
Speaker 3: of oh, I don't feel right. Something's wrong, and maybe
25:58
Speaker 3: I don't know exactly what it is, but something's wrong,
26:01
Speaker 3: and I just I shouldn't question that and I should
26:03
Speaker 3: get up and remove my totally.
26:04
Speaker 1: Yes.
26:05
Speaker 2: And by the way, Jess, I know that you're not
26:07
Speaker 2: a mom, obviously, but even when you become a mom,
26:11
Speaker 2: you sit there and think, am I doing this the
26:13
Speaker 2: right way?
26:13
Speaker 1: Yeah? How do I teach my kid all the things
26:15
Speaker 1: that I want them to know? And you're gonna mess up?
26:19
Speaker 2: But then there are times where you're mess up in
26:22
Speaker 2: someone else's eyes, maybe was the most brilliant.
26:24
Speaker 1: Thing you've ever done, Like none of us have it
26:26
Speaker 1: figured out now.
26:27
Speaker 2: Hear if you have one kid or you have twelve kids, right,
26:30
Speaker 2: you're always learning something different and your kid comes how
26:34
Speaker 2: they are.
26:34
Speaker 3: And that's I loved when my mom said that. She said,
26:37
Speaker 3: you're never just You're always going to question if you're
26:41
Speaker 3: doing it right. Yeah, and like you just said, there's
26:44
Speaker 3: gonna be times where you're like, I really messed up
26:47
Speaker 3: and other people would be like, what are you talking about?
26:48
Speaker 3: That was the move? A great job?
26:51
Speaker 2: And like you come from a big family. Your parents,
26:54
Speaker 2: I'm sure did one thing with mister Bubbs that.
26:57
Speaker 1: Would never work with you.
26:59
Speaker 2: Never mister Bubbs gets to do everything you know where, Yes,
27:03
Speaker 2: we had to teach mister Bubbs this way, but with
27:06
Speaker 2: ES we got to go this way because you're constantly
27:09
Speaker 2: having to rework the system.
27:11
Speaker 1: Yes, it's exhausting.
27:14
Speaker 3: Makes me pause when I get baby fever, Like I
27:17
Speaker 3: get to hang out with the ocean most days. So
27:21
Speaker 3: I'm good for now because I can't. I can't take
27:24
Speaker 3: on more responsibility.
27:26
Speaker 1: No, it's a lot. Plus you have to help me
27:28
Speaker 1: build an empire.
27:29
Speaker 3: Yes, so we're building the empire.
27:30
Speaker 1: Firm building the empire.
27:33
Speaker 2: So we had a lot of fun moments in this intro, Yeah,
27:35
Speaker 2: a little bit of heavier moments. I always love to
27:38
Speaker 2: hear your guys' thoughts on everything we talk about, so
27:42
Speaker 2: please remember to call in weigh in your questions concerns.
27:48
Speaker 1: If you have any input on Freeze.
27:51
Speaker 2: Or you have more knowledge educated Educate me, yes, educate me.
27:55
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Speaker 2: nine to one three one.
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Speaker 1: And I love you.
28:02
Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to another episode of mine, and
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Speaker 2: I will talk to you next week