Latest / Crime Stories with Nancy Grace / Killers Amongst Us: Murder on the Waxworm Farm (part 1)
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- 0:04Speaker 1: Hi, guys, Nancy Grace here, Welcome back to Killers amongst Us,
- 0:08Speaker 1: a production of iHeart Media and Crime Online. Blooming Prairie, Minnesota,
- 0:15Speaker 1: with a population of around two thousand. If you look
- 0:21Speaker 1: at a picture of Blooming Prairie, Minnesota, it looks like
- 0:26Speaker 1: main Street of Mayberry. I don't know if you know
- 0:29Speaker 1: about Andy of Mayberry, Andy Griffith, but I sure do,
- 0:33Speaker 1: and I know all about Mayberry, not too far from Raleigh.
- 0:37Speaker 1: In my mind, looks just like the real live, blooming prairie.
- 0:45Speaker 1: Blooming Prairie, Minnesota. So how does a man end up
- 0:52Speaker 1: shot dead in his own property, his wife missing. I'm
- 1:02Speaker 1: Nancy Grace, Killers amongst Us, joining me an all star
- 1:11Speaker 1: panel to break it down and put it back together again.
- 1:14Speaker 1: First of all, Tess Coster, longtime friend of David and
- 1:21Speaker 1: Louis Reese. Ashley Wilcott, judge, trial lawyer, anchor COURTDV, doctor
- 1:27Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall, Psychoalens to the Stars, joining me from Beverly Hills.
- 1:31Speaker 1: Cloyd Steiger thirty six years Seattle, PD and author, Joseph
- 1:36Speaker 1: Scott Morgan, Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University and author Callen
- 1:42Speaker 1: Thompson KIMT News three, Rochester, Minnesota. Let's start at the
- 1:49Speaker 1: very beginning with Blooming Prairie. The city of Blooming Prairie
- 1:53Speaker 1: is known for its historic downtown. There are tunnels underneath
- 1:58Speaker 1: Main Street that we're dug during the Prohibition era. The
- 2:01Speaker 1: tunnels were used for making and peddling moonshine. This quiet town,
- 2:06Speaker 1: with its old bones and its midwest field, went almost
- 2:09Speaker 1: thirty years without having a murder. You are hearing our
- 2:12Speaker 1: friend Aaron Bluie Devil we know podcast. You know. To me,
- 2:17Speaker 1: when I look at Blooming Prairie, it looks like Andy, Oh,
- 2:22Speaker 1: maybe you're like, nothing would ever go wrong there? To
- 2:25Speaker 1: Callen Thompson, I guess you got a pretty low crime, right,
- 2:28Speaker 1: huh right, You're completely right. It's like out of a movie.
- 2:32Speaker 1: It's small town Minnesota, close knit community. You wouldn't think
- 2:37Speaker 1: anything like that would happen here, you know. I'm looking
- 2:40Speaker 1: at pictures of Blooming Prairie, Minnesota, and literally it reminds
- 2:45Speaker 1: me of where my grandparents on my dad's side lived, Oglethorpe, Georgia.
- 2:49Speaker 1: There was one main street and at the end of
- 2:52Speaker 1: the main street it's just a bunch of trees. Now
- 2:55Speaker 1: that's more than I had where I grew up in
- 2:57Speaker 1: Middle Georgia. But I'm looking at look at this, Jackie,
- 3:01Speaker 1: the water tower in Blooming Prairie with the flag on it.
- 3:07Speaker 1: Am I correct? There's only about two thousand people there. Yes,
- 3:11Speaker 1: you are correct. It's very small. And like you said,
- 3:15Speaker 1: the water tower is right at the end of the
- 3:17Speaker 1: main street. If you drive too fast you might miss it. Honestly, well,
- 3:22Speaker 1: I know this. It's been there since eighteen sixty eight.
- 3:25Speaker 1: It was incorporated eighteen seventy four, and it's actually on
- 3:29Speaker 1: the National Register of Historic Places. Now here's the kicker,
- 3:35Speaker 1: because before Prohibition it was let me just say, not dry. Okay,
- 3:42Speaker 1: so it was a big city because a moonshine. But
- 3:45Speaker 1: that's how long Blooming Prairie has been around population two thousand.
- 3:49Speaker 1: You know, that's very important to the murder of David
- 3:55Speaker 1: Reese and the disappearance of his wife. To Joseph Scott Morgan,
- 4:01Speaker 1: Professor Forensics, Jackson State University, author of Blood Beneath My
- 4:04Speaker 1: Feet on Amazon, jo Scott, why is that critical to
- 4:09Speaker 1: figuring out who murdered David Reese? And to Lewis Hey Nancy. Look,
- 4:15Speaker 1: with most homicides. We think about people that are in
- 4:19Speaker 1: our intimate circle, and you're talking about this beautiful place,
- 4:23Speaker 1: which to me, Minnesota is one of the pretty states
- 4:25Speaker 1: in the Union. It's absolutely gorgeous. Small town. You've got
- 4:29Speaker 1: limited number of people that are surrounding you, and so
- 4:33Speaker 1: how many people would you actually have in your circle?
- 4:36Speaker 1: Would I would venture to guess that there are not
- 4:39Speaker 1: that many homicides that take place in this pretty lavele.
- 4:42Speaker 1: Looking at at Cloyd Steiger, now you did thirty six
- 4:44Speaker 1: years Seattle PD, twenty two of that as homicide detective
- 4:47Speaker 1: author Seattle's Forgotten Cereal Killer, Gary Jane Grant at Cloyd
- 4:51Speaker 1: Steiger dot com. Cloyd, now you're used to sleuthing and
- 4:56Speaker 1: solving murderers in Seattle. That's a far cry from Blooming Prairie.
- 5:02Speaker 1: Blooming Prairie as the kind of town where the neighbors
- 5:05Speaker 1: know when somebody doesn't show up for work, they notice
- 5:09Speaker 1: when you don't bring your newspaper in from the frame
- 5:12Speaker 1: your driveway, Okay, they see it. That's a lot different
- 5:16Speaker 1: from where you police. Yeah, this is answer is I
- 5:19Speaker 1: look at them because of the town. To myself right now,
- 5:22Speaker 1: I bet you they have had less than five murders
- 5:25Speaker 1: in their entire history. If fat many, I mean, so
- 5:28Speaker 1: this is a really unusual thing, and the way you
- 5:30Speaker 1: go about investing this crime is going to be completely
- 5:33Speaker 1: different because of that. So straight out to test coster tests.
- 5:38Speaker 1: How is it that you manage to meet up with
- 5:42Speaker 1: Dave and Lois Reese. Lois and Dave came to Blooming
- 5:45Speaker 1: Prairie two thousand and four, two thousand and five, something
- 5:49Speaker 1: like that, and we met them as the new people
- 5:51Speaker 1: in town. It's a small town. There's not a stoplight,
- 5:54Speaker 1: there's not a movie theater. It's just a close knit group.
- 5:59Speaker 1: So Dave liked to fish, My husband liked to fish.
- 6:03Speaker 1: They got to know each other that way. We'd go
- 6:07Speaker 1: have a beer at the Services Club or at J
- 6:09Speaker 1: and H liquor run into him here and there. Then
- 6:14Speaker 1: Dave start opened his waxworm farm, which is right on
- 6:17Speaker 1: their property. And okay, right there, what is that? What's
- 6:21Speaker 1: a waxworm? It is a little white worm that people
- 6:25Speaker 1: fish with, usually panfish, so like some dish boogills perch.
- 6:32Speaker 1: And yeah, Lois opened daycare. All the daycare moms and
- 6:38Speaker 1: dad thought she was great. She was always a happy,
- 6:41Speaker 1: fun loving very sweet, nice person, happy go lucky person.
- 6:50Speaker 1: Went bowling with the bowling She was on the bowling team.
- 6:53Speaker 1: The bowlers all loved her. In about two and ten,
- 6:57Speaker 1: we invited them as a couple day than Lewis to
- 7:00Speaker 1: come to our lake home along with some of our
- 7:03Speaker 1: employees and their spouses, and she was just a wonderful guest.
- 7:08Speaker 1: She brought stake for everyone, cleaned up afterwards, served us
- 7:12Speaker 1: all breakfast. The guys all went out fishing, We went pontooning,
- 7:16Speaker 1: had a great time. Dave had this infection infectious laugh.
- 7:21Speaker 1: So he was always fun to be around because he
- 7:23Speaker 1: was telling jokes and making everybody feel good and happy.
- 7:27Speaker 1: So Dave and Lois show up for weekend at your
- 7:33Speaker 1: lake house and they're wonderful day, fun to be around.
- 7:38Speaker 1: Lois brings steaks for dinner for everybody, gets up and
- 7:42Speaker 1: fix his breakfast. Now that's kind of people you want
- 7:45Speaker 1: to invite over. So this is what we know about
- 7:49Speaker 1: Dave Reese. Take a listen to our friend Aaron Bluie
- 7:54Speaker 1: Devil We Know podcast. Dave decided to follow us dreams
- 7:58Speaker 1: and open a bait shop in Rochester with a friend
- 8:00Speaker 1: of his. Beat shop was very successful, when he decided
- 8:04Speaker 1: to sell the shop an open prairie wax farm farm
- 8:08Speaker 1: which he owned with another friend. He had a true
- 8:11Speaker 1: passion for the outdoors and was always fishing, hunting, or boating.
- 8:15Speaker 1: I think people remember most about Dave, however, is how
- 8:18Speaker 1: he had a great sense of humor. Nancy, let me
- 8:20Speaker 1: jump in here and say that is one of the
- 8:22Speaker 1: things that people comment about David and Lewis Reef is
- 8:26Speaker 1: how well they were liked in the community. With me
- 8:28Speaker 1: here in the studio, Jackie, Howard, Jackie, what do you know?
- 8:31Speaker 1: I know that Test Coster and her family stepped in
- 8:34Speaker 1: and helped David and Lewis Reef a little bit more
- 8:36Speaker 1: than what she said before. Let's listen to Amy Bennett
- 8:40Speaker 1: Williams with the News Press. A year after they moved there,
- 8:43Speaker 1: a fire tore through their home. Soon, donation cans appeared
- 8:48Speaker 1: throughout downtown, and Rod and Test Coster, who owned a
- 8:51Speaker 1: bluing prairie used car lot, put the couple up on
- 8:54Speaker 1: the second floor of one of their downtown buildings while
- 8:57Speaker 1: the races rebuilt. Dave served on board of the local
- 9:00Speaker 1: Serviceman's club, where the couple often grabbed meals. Lois went
- 9:04Speaker 1: bowling with the gals of Bunkies a vintage four lane alley.
- 9:08Speaker 1: She fit right in with all the bowling gals, and
- 9:11Speaker 1: I mean was friendly to everybody in town. Lois set
- 9:15Speaker 1: up a childcare business, babysitting town children. Lois Reese was
- 9:19Speaker 1: a daycare provider for a good friend of mine, her
- 9:25Speaker 1: son when he was a little She was around the
- 9:28Speaker 1: community more than he was. My friend used to talk
- 9:31Speaker 1: about taking his little boy off to her place, and
- 9:36Speaker 1: he thought she was a nice lady. I mean, and
- 9:39Speaker 1: so did I think. Most of the people in town.
- 9:42Speaker 1: Smiley and warm seeming, appeared to love her young charges.
- 9:46Speaker 1: Caring for others was part of her identity. Lois and
- 9:50Speaker 1: Dave may have been from somewhere else, but they fit
- 9:53Speaker 1: comfortably into the life of Blooming Prairie, which embraced them.
- 10:01Speaker 1: Dave served on the board of the local Serviceman's club,
- 10:04Speaker 1: where the couple often grabbed meals. Lois went bowling with
- 10:07Speaker 1: the gals of Bunkies a vintage four lane alley. She
- 10:11Speaker 1: fit right in with all the bowling gals, and I
- 10:14Speaker 1: mean was friendly to everybody in town. Lois set up
- 10:18Speaker 1: a childcare business, babysitting town children. Lois Reese was a
- 10:23Speaker 1: daycare provider for a good friend of mine, her son
- 10:28Speaker 1: when he was a little She was around the community
- 10:31Speaker 1: more than he was. My friend used to talk about
- 10:34Speaker 1: taking his little boy off to her place, and he
- 10:39Speaker 1: thought she was a nice lady. I mean, and so
- 10:42Speaker 1: did I think most of the people in town, smiley
- 10:45Speaker 1: and warm seeming, appeared to love her young charges. Caring
- 10:50Speaker 1: for others was part of her identity. Lois and Dave
- 10:53Speaker 1: may have been from somewhere else, but they fit comfortably
- 10:56Speaker 1: into the life of Blooming Prairie, which embraced them. So
- 11:00Speaker 1: getting a picture of what life is like for this couple.
- 11:05Speaker 1: Joining me friend of the Reese family, test Coster ask Wilcot,
- 11:10Speaker 1: let me go to you judge trial while your anchor
- 11:12Speaker 1: Court TV at Ashley Wilcott dot com. It's really hard
- 11:16Speaker 1: for me to reconcile this happy picture. And there's a
- 11:20Speaker 1: beautiful little town of two thousand, Blooming Prairie in Minnesota.
- 11:25Speaker 1: And know for a fact that he David Reese, is
- 11:29Speaker 1: shot dead and Lois goes missing. Well automatically, with those facts,
- 11:35Speaker 1: it's suspicious. And you know what it makes me think
- 11:38Speaker 1: is who has come in to this beautiful, little quaint
- 11:43Speaker 1: town and done such a crime, and I would go
- 11:47Speaker 1: directly in my mind towards kidnapped, taken, absponded with his wife.
- 11:54Speaker 1: None of this makes sense, and it paints a very
- 11:58Speaker 1: unwelcoming picture of someone coming into this beautiful place and
- 12:03Speaker 1: committing not one but two. Cry daughter, Bethany Marshall. It's
- 12:07Speaker 1: like murder in Mayberry. You just don't see it coming.
- 12:10Speaker 1: It's like I always compare it to Scott Peterson in
- 12:15Speaker 1: a different way because there were many people that thought
- 12:18Speaker 1: Scott Peterson was handsome. I mean, he was a golf pro,
- 12:24Speaker 1: he was a star in high school. I think he
- 12:27Speaker 1: may have had a golf scholarship, roomed with Phil Mickelson
- 12:31Speaker 1: at college. Beautiful wife, beautiful home. I was at their
- 12:36Speaker 1: home many many times. And then suddenly his wife turns
- 12:39Speaker 1: up dead. Okay, people would look at Scott Peterson and
- 12:42Speaker 1: think impossible. Why many people think he's handsome? He's smart
- 12:47Speaker 1: at college degree, great job, great personality. He would never
- 12:51Speaker 1: do this. That's what it feels like. When you look
- 12:54Speaker 1: at Blooming Prairie, You're like, I know who would kill
- 12:57Speaker 1: him and take away lois hard for us to take
- 13:01Speaker 1: in Well, Nancy, You're right, the facts just don't add
- 13:04Speaker 1: up the beautiful town. If it were a larger city,
- 13:08Speaker 1: you might think about a crime of opportunity. But this
- 13:12Speaker 1: is this bucolic setting with very few people. Everybody knows
- 13:17Speaker 1: each other. If just one spouse was killed or had
- 13:22Speaker 1: gone missing, you would look at the other spouse, right,
- 13:24Speaker 1: you would begin to think about, you know, was there
- 13:27Speaker 1: attention or in the marriage, had somebody taken out of
- 13:31Speaker 1: life insurance policy, something like that. But here one spouse
- 13:35Speaker 1: is shot, the other goes missing. If the husband was
- 13:38Speaker 1: shot and the wife was left alone, I would have thought,
- 13:41Speaker 1: you know, he started this new business, the waxworm farm.
- 13:48Speaker 1: I would wonder, you know, was there a lot of
- 13:50Speaker 1: cash in the business. Had a employee come and tried
- 13:54Speaker 1: to and disfuntled employee who was angry at Dave? Or
- 13:58Speaker 1: there are a a lot of cash and an employe he
- 14:00Speaker 1: wanted access to it. But then just Dave would have
- 14:03Speaker 1: been shot. Here you have one partner shot and the
- 14:07Speaker 1: other one goes missing. There's no pattern I can think
- 14:11Speaker 1: of that matches up with this crime. You know, Blooming Prairie,
- 14:16Speaker 1: the crime right is eleven times lower than the national average.
- 14:23Speaker 1: Eleven times lower take a listen to our friend Aaron Bluie.
- 14:28Speaker 1: After a couple of weeks, Dave's co workers finally decided
- 14:31Speaker 1: to call the police to report him missing. He hadn't
- 14:35Speaker 1: been seen or heard from. One of Dave's friends told
- 14:39Speaker 1: the police that they received an odd text message from Dave.
- 14:44Speaker 1: The content of the message wasn't what seemed off. What
- 14:48Speaker 1: was striking to the friend was the fact that the
- 14:50Speaker 1: message used punctuation. Dave never used punctuation, not even a period,
- 14:56Speaker 1: whenever he wrote a text message or an email. On
- 15:01Speaker 1: March twenty third, twenty eighteen, after receiving the missing person's report,
- 15:06Speaker 1: the police discovered Dave's body in the bathroom of his home.
- 15:11Speaker 1: The investigator and corner weren't able to pinpoint the exact
- 15:14Speaker 1: time or date that Dave died. His cell phone was
- 15:17Speaker 1: found on the kitchen counter. Police believe that Dave probably
- 15:22Speaker 1: had been dead when his friend received the text message
- 15:25Speaker 1: WHOA straight out? To Kalen Thomson KIMT News three, Rochester, Minnesota.
- 15:32Speaker 1: Kalen so, a couple of weeks pass, He's not showing
- 15:36Speaker 1: up to the worm farm, and for a while, nobody
- 15:41Speaker 1: was worried because they had gotten a text message from him.
- 15:43Speaker 1: I'm the same way when I text, no punctuation, no capitals, nothing,
- 15:50Speaker 1: you know. I try to do a couple of spaces
- 15:52Speaker 1: between sentences. I speak in broken English because it's just
- 15:56Speaker 1: you know, like shorthand. I get it. If I wrote
- 15:59Speaker 1: a full on sentach with capitols and punctuations, Jackie here
- 16:04Speaker 1: in the studio would know somebody had my phone because
- 16:06Speaker 1: I would not be doing that. So tell me about
- 16:09Speaker 1: the discovery off his body. What do we know? What
- 16:12Speaker 1: the cause of death is? Kiellen? Sorry, Well, this brings
- 16:14Speaker 1: us to Saturday, March twenty fourth. As the weekend anchor,
- 16:18Speaker 1: we have the scanners going in the newsroom and some
- 16:22Speaker 1: of my jobs to kind of keep an ear on
- 16:23Speaker 1: that as I'm producing the show, just to make sure
- 16:26Speaker 1: we don't miss anything as far as news goes. And
- 16:29Speaker 1: we were hearing about a death investigation in Dodge County
- 16:33Speaker 1: and the Prairie wax worm farm address was being relayed
- 16:38Speaker 1: from law enforcement, so I was thinking, Okay, we better
- 16:42Speaker 1: send someone out there. So this is Saturday night, it's dark,
- 16:46Speaker 1: it's so cold in Minnesota. I think there's possibly still
- 16:50Speaker 1: snow on the ground as well, so we send a
- 16:52Speaker 1: reporter out there to Prairie wax Worm Farms on Highway
- 16:56Speaker 1: twenty eight Highway two eighteen, just outside of Blooming Prairie
- 17:00Speaker 1: in Dodge County, and of course she wasn't able to
- 17:02Speaker 1: get any information at the scene, but she did get video,
- 17:07Speaker 1: possibly not the highest of quality just because of how
- 17:09Speaker 1: dark it was, but that's all we knew at that
- 17:12Speaker 1: point was there was law enforce and on scene and
- 17:16Speaker 1: it was suspicious activity going on in that small town
- 17:20Speaker 1: of Blooming Prairie. So then Sunday rolls around. I was
- 17:24Speaker 1: able to make some calls, but of course nothing really
- 17:26Speaker 1: came out of that, still tight lipped, and then Monday
- 17:30Speaker 1: rolls around, Mark twenty sixth, and as a reporter, I
- 17:33Speaker 1: was assigned to go to Blooming Prairie that day to
- 17:36Speaker 1: see what I could go find out. So I made
- 17:39Speaker 1: the forty minute drive from Rochester, Minnesota to Blooming Prairie
- 17:43Speaker 1: and drove up to the Prairie wax worm Farms, and
- 17:46Speaker 1: of course there was law enforcement still on scene. I
- 17:51Speaker 1: was able to grab video, and then I made my
- 17:53Speaker 1: way down to main Street to see maybe what I
- 17:56Speaker 1: could break up there. And as I was going from
- 18:01Speaker 1: business to business. It was pretty certain early on that
- 18:07Speaker 1: I wasn't really going to get much from this community.
- 18:09Speaker 1: They were pretty tight lipped and they did not say much. However,
- 18:13Speaker 1: I was able to get one business owner on camera. However,
- 18:16Speaker 1: I wasn't able to identify her and I couldn't show
- 18:18Speaker 1: her face. I just had to record her hands. But
- 18:22Speaker 1: she knew of what had kind of went down as
- 18:27Speaker 1: far as what happened at the prayer wax weren't farm
- 18:30Speaker 1: of just there was suspicious activity there. And when I
- 18:36Speaker 1: did ask her if she knew of the Riese family,
- 18:39Speaker 1: she said she did. Guys, I'm looking and you could
- 18:48Speaker 1: do it too. I'm looking right now at the address
- 18:53Speaker 1: and I can see the home. I can see the
- 18:59Speaker 1: wax worm farm and the home are on the same place. Right,
- 19:04Speaker 1: Is that right, Keillen? That's correct, So he had it's
- 19:07Speaker 1: wax worm farm. I guess out behind his home and
- 19:12Speaker 1: it is beautiful. There's all green grass, beautiful trees all around.
- 19:19Speaker 1: It's like rolling country. And I bet that was a
- 19:22Speaker 1: big surprise Kellen Thompson when you suddenly here there's a
- 19:25Speaker 1: lot of police activity at seven five eight five nine
- 19:29Speaker 1: US two eighteen Blooming prairie, Like, what the hey, what
- 19:32Speaker 1: was your first thought when you heard that? Right? Well,
- 19:35Speaker 1: when I pulled up to the scene, and because I
- 19:38Speaker 1: had never been to the Prairie wax worm farm, so
- 19:40Speaker 1: when I pulled up, I was like, oh, there's a
- 19:42Speaker 1: house right next to it, and then there were law
- 19:45Speaker 1: enforcement vehicles there, and like you said, You're just like, well,
- 19:50Speaker 1: this isn't supposed to be happening. Here. Just doesn't look great.
- 19:53Speaker 1: I'm looking at a three hundred and sixty degree view,
- 19:56Speaker 1: and behind the home I can see there's plowed up earth.
- 20:00Speaker 1: There's a big field behind it, and three hundred and
- 20:05Speaker 1: sixty degrees you don't see anything but in the distance
- 20:09Speaker 1: a farm and in the distance away from the house
- 20:13Speaker 1: across the street as a railroad track. I mean, you
- 20:16Speaker 1: don't see anything. And that means a lot too straight
- 20:21Speaker 1: up to you. Joe Scott Morgan, what does that mean
- 20:24Speaker 1: to you? There's nothing else around? Yeah, who would want
- 20:27Speaker 1: to go out to a location like this and perpetrate
- 20:32Speaker 1: a crime? I mean, this is the height of isolation. Nancy.
- 20:36Speaker 1: You know you gotta see it. Joe Scott, go to
- 20:38Speaker 1: zero dot com. Will That's where I get all my
- 20:41Speaker 1: if it was seven five eight five nine US Highway
- 20:43Speaker 1: two eighteen, Blooming Prairie. And it's just like Kellen Thompson
- 20:46Speaker 1: is telling us from KIMTV, and you can do a
- 20:49Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty five, three hundred and sixty degree
- 20:53Speaker 1: and it's about a twenty five hundred square foot home,
- 20:58Speaker 1: three bedroom, two baths, single family and it's it's very
- 21:02Speaker 1: pretty and honest, beautiful property. Okay, I butt it in,
- 21:05Speaker 1: go ahead, No, I mean, I know exactly what you're
- 21:07Speaker 1: talking about. You know, when I was little, my papa
- 21:10Speaker 1: raised horses. You know, we had a farm, if you will,
- 21:14Speaker 1: and it was isolated. Nancy. You have to it's not
- 21:17Speaker 1: someplace to show up by accident. It's what I'm saying.
- 21:20Speaker 1: You have to be purposed in going there. And so
- 21:23Speaker 1: when I begin to hear about cases like this, and
- 21:25Speaker 1: I think about things like this, the first thing that
- 21:28Speaker 1: comes to mind is, well, somebody did this that knew
- 21:31Speaker 1: this general, somebody did this that had a very familiar
- 21:38Speaker 1: relationship with him and that, or somebody that had a grudge,
- 21:45Speaker 1: some sort of disagreement. Because this is not random. I
- 21:50Speaker 1: can tell you that right now, and to you, Kellen Thompson,
- 21:53Speaker 1: k IMT News three. What can you tell me about
- 21:57Speaker 1: the caliber? I mean, this guy wasn't shot just one.
- 22:00Speaker 1: He was killed many times, over right? Sure? Well, for investigators,
- 22:04Speaker 1: we learned that it was a twenty two caliber gun
- 22:07Speaker 1: and he had multiple gunshot wounds. Whoa and where was
- 22:11Speaker 1: he on the property call? He wasn't he in his bathroom? Yes?
- 22:17Speaker 1: The investigator said that he was found on the bathroom floor.
- 22:20Speaker 1: And look when you hear wax room from him. Granted
- 22:23Speaker 1: I didn't know what the test cost. I had to
- 22:25Speaker 1: explain to me about it. Now I know what she's
- 22:27Speaker 1: talking about because whenever I take the twins fishing, we
- 22:30Speaker 1: have to go get baked. You know, worms wax rooms
- 22:33Speaker 1: can be very profitable up till like almost ten dollars
- 22:37Speaker 1: a pound. Okay, so you raise the worms, you can
- 22:41Speaker 1: make money off of them. Doctor Bethany Marshall joining me,
- 22:44Speaker 1: Psycho Wallens joining us out of Beverly Hills at doctor
- 22:47Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall dot com. What does that tell you that
- 22:49Speaker 1: there were multiple shots in the bathroom with a small
- 22:54Speaker 1: caliber a twenty two. But let's start with the multiple shots. Well,
- 22:58Speaker 1: they killed him many times. This is what we call overkill.
- 23:03Speaker 1: Nancy and so whenever there's a case of overkill, you
- 23:07Speaker 1: have to consider certain factors. The first thing I always
- 23:11Speaker 1: think of is meth amphetamine, because that can cause overkill
- 23:15Speaker 1: if the perpetrator is on some kind of drugs PCP,
- 23:20Speaker 1: crystal crystal, mess, whatever words you want to use. These
- 23:24Speaker 1: types of drugs cause an enormous amount of energy and
- 23:28Speaker 1: an enormous amount of rage. But I do not think
- 23:33Speaker 1: that Blooming Prairie is the mess capital of the world,
- 23:36Speaker 1: so I would have to rule that one out. The
- 23:39Speaker 1: second would be extreme ragefulness that whoever did this was
- 23:43Speaker 1: extremely enraged at Dave. But that doesn't make sense either,
- 23:48Speaker 1: because everybody in this town knew each other. So if
- 23:52Speaker 1: somebody had a grudge or something like that against them,
- 23:56Speaker 1: I think that somebody in this town would know. So again,
- 24:00Speaker 1: this crime is not fitting any pattern that is familiar
- 24:04Speaker 1: to me. It just seems very mysterious. Now, wait a minute,
- 24:07Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Wait a minute, doctor Bethany Marshall. The
- 24:09Speaker 1: very first crime on the books to you, asked you, Wilcott,
- 24:12Speaker 1: you're a judge and trial lawyer, court TV anchor aske
- 24:15Speaker 1: Wilcot dot com. The very first murder we know of
- 24:18Speaker 1: Kine and Abel and they were in the garden of Eden. Yeah,
- 24:21Speaker 1: so grudges happen even in small town absolutely. And to me,
- 24:26Speaker 1: what this means in the bathroom, close range, multiple shots
- 24:30Speaker 1: is that clearly this is somebody who had a grudge,
- 24:32Speaker 1: who knew him. And you know what, it doesn't matter
- 24:35Speaker 1: where you live, what you do, what you have, what
- 24:37Speaker 1: you don't have. Anybody can be a victim of a crime.
- 24:42Speaker 1: Well here's another thing. What about this fact to you?
- 24:44Speaker 1: Kloyd Steiger thirty six years Seattle, PD Cloyd Steiger dot com.
- 24:49Speaker 1: Multiple gunshots the guy shot in his bathroom and his
- 24:53Speaker 1: cell phone, isn't that right? Kallen Thompson kimt His cell
- 24:57Speaker 1: phone was there on the kitchen counter. Yes, I believe.
- 25:00Speaker 1: So what about that? What do you make of the
- 25:02Speaker 1: multiple gunshot wounds ployds Tiger? Well, what I'd want to
- 25:06Speaker 1: know looking at that is not just multiple, but where
- 25:08Speaker 1: on his body are they Because like shots to the
- 25:11Speaker 1: face generally making a more personal attack. So I'd want
- 25:16Speaker 1: to know as he shot multiple times in the face,
- 25:19Speaker 1: that would be someone who was angry at him, or
- 25:22Speaker 1: was it just because they had a twenty two and
- 25:23Speaker 1: to keep shooting him to kill him? And then the
- 25:26Speaker 1: phone on the We know that the person probably texted
- 25:30Speaker 1: with that phone, so you're gonna want to check that
- 25:33Speaker 1: for touch DNA and see where you can find from that. Guys,
- 25:36Speaker 1: we're talking about the multiple gunshot murderer, the life of
- 25:41Speaker 1: the party, David Reese, living happily with Lois Reese. They've
- 25:46Speaker 1: got children that have moved away. Why would any body
- 25:51Speaker 1: do that? And where is Lois Reese? Take a listen
- 25:56Speaker 1: to Kallen Thompson, our friend at Kamputs. We're at the
- 25:59Speaker 1: Prairie wall worm Farm. Saturday night. I'm told Reese lives
- 26:03Speaker 1: where Dodge County authorities are investigating, just right outside of town.
- 26:08Speaker 1: Is it next to that Prairie waxed worm farm. Yes, yep.
- 26:12Speaker 1: The house is located on the same property. And many
- 26:15Speaker 1: versions of the story of what people think happened are
- 26:18Speaker 1: going around town. But one thing is for certain. It's
- 26:21Speaker 1: a situation affecting the entire community of Blooming Prairie. I
- 26:25Speaker 1: have gone to bed Saturday night thinking about what a
- 26:28Speaker 1: wonderful community this is because we had our Blooming Prairie
- 26:32Speaker 1: Education Foundation auction. And then the next thing I know,
- 26:37Speaker 1: I hear this and it's just yeah, it just seems
- 26:40Speaker 1: unreal for our little community. Authorities are asking for your
- 26:44Speaker 1: help in locating Race. He's dead, she is missing. Where
- 26:51Speaker 1: is Lois Reese? And who gunned down David Reese in
- 26:58Speaker 1: the bathroom of his own home. Nancy Grace Killers amongst us,
- 27:04Speaker 1: signing off goodbye friend,