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Who Was Nostradamus? · Dirt Nap City - History's Most Interesting Dead People

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SPEAKER_00: Hello, everybody.
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SPEAKER_00: Welcome to Dirt Knap City, the show about interesting dead people.
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SPEAKER_00: And I'm Alex, and I have here today my friend Kelly.
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SPEAKER_00: What's up, Kelly?
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SPEAKER_00: Well, we're super excited.
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SPEAKER_01: Today we're actually doing this show live in front of an audience.
0:28
SPEAKER_01: We have one person here, and he's uh actually mixing it for us, but he's also listening, so I consider him an audience and a friend.
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SPEAKER_01: Chris is here.
0:36
SPEAKER_01: Hi, Chris.
0:37
SPEAKER_00: He waved.
0:39
SPEAKER_00: Um, okay.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, um, I thought there would be more chairs in this room, but I didn't know you'd have to sit on my lap.
0:47
SPEAKER_00: This is a little uncomfortable.
0:48
SPEAKER_00: It's a little awkward, but we kind of we have to share a mic.
0:51
SPEAKER_00: I thought you'd have more than one mic here, but apparently we're doing this uh Aerosmith style where we're or or uh little Steven and Bruce Springsteen singing into one mic.
1:00
SPEAKER_01: I spent so much money on downloading podcasts that I'm totally broke and that's all I could afford.
1:06
SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry.
1:06
SPEAKER_00: What do you think the most money anybody's ever spent on podcasts is?
1:11
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna say Joe Rogan, and I'm gonna say$450.
1:16
SPEAKER_00: Does somebody spent$450 listening to a Joe Rogan podcast?
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SPEAKER_01: No, I'm gonna say he spent$450 to get a second mic so he could interview people properly.
1:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and he's uh right down the street here.
1:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's here in Austin, Texas.
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SPEAKER_00: That's where we are today.
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SPEAKER_00: So if you're listening, which I don't know why you wouldn't be, um, but you already know who this person is because you've clicked on the uh the link, you've clicked on, you've clicked play on this little episode, and but Kelly here is in the dark.
1:46
SPEAKER_00: He's the only one in this little universe who doesn't know who we're talking about.
1:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right now I am totally clueless and excited to learn.
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SPEAKER_00: And I don't have a lot of clues that won't give it away.
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SPEAKER_00: So this will be a relatively short uh guessing session.
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SPEAKER_00: But I'll tell you that this is uh this is an oldie, an oldie but a goodie.
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SPEAKER_00: This is somebody that uh entered dirt nap study a long time ago.
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SPEAKER_00: Like BC old?
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SPEAKER_00: No.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, no, no, not BC like 1800s old?
2:15
SPEAKER_00: No, older.
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SPEAKER_00: This person was born in 1503.
2:20
SPEAKER_00: Oh, wait a minute.
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SPEAKER_00: You don't hear enough about the 1500s, especially in France.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, I think when you think about a long time ago, we go 20th century, 19th century, 18th century, a long time ago.
2:34
SPEAKER_00: Like Jesus, dinosaurs, and then big bang.
2:37
SPEAKER_00: Big bang, right?
2:38
SPEAKER_00: That's that's kind of the timeline.
2:39
SPEAKER_01: Or if you believe in Jesus, then Big Bang might not be appropriate.
2:42
SPEAKER_00: Right.
2:43
SPEAKER_00: So so we're talking maybe Creation time.
2:45
SPEAKER_00: Everything might as well have been 200 years ago.
2:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:48
SPEAKER_01: Well, you know, it's kind of because I think as you get older and as society gets older, time travels faster.
2:56
SPEAKER_01: Have you noticed that, right?
2:56
SPEAKER_01: I mean gosh.
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SPEAKER_01: You you've noticed that like a year goes by so much faster than when you were 10.
3:01
SPEAKER_00: Take down the Christmas decorations and the next thing you know, I'm putting them back up again.
3:05
SPEAKER_01: You you know why that is?
3:07
SPEAKER_01: Do you do you know the scientific reason why that happens?
3:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but tell me.
3:11
SPEAKER_01: Because the percentage of time that a year is is much smaller percentage of your life when you're older.
3:17
SPEAKER_01: So when you're 10 years old, one year is 10% of your life.
3:21
SPEAKER_01: But when you're 50 years old, it's like 2% of your life.
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SPEAKER_00: And so it feels shorter.
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SPEAKER_00: There's also some science that shows that there's not as many milestones in the later years of your life.
3:32
SPEAKER_00: So, kind of if you've done the same thing for the last 10 years, there's nothing to mark time anymore.
3:37
SPEAKER_00: And when you're a kid, you have first grade, second grade, third grade, and every you have different points to mark your time.
3:43
SPEAKER_00: And I know when I think of back at my own life, there's certain things that you know they were before, after the birth of my child, and before after I got married, and then there's years that just run together because there was nothing marking them.
3:56
SPEAKER_01: But you know what?
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SPEAKER_01: I have a solution, actually.
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SPEAKER_01: I I just came up with this, it's brilliant.
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SPEAKER_01: It can help you, it can help me, and it can help everyone in our audience to have a milestone.
4:05
SPEAKER_01: You know what it is?
4:06
SPEAKER_01: What?
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SPEAKER_01: It is a new episode every two weeks of Dirt Knap City.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, wow.
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SPEAKER_01: If you use that as your mile marker, your time's gonna slow down.
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SPEAKER_01: You're not gonna feel like time's flying by as quickly.
4:15
SPEAKER_01: As a matter of fact, you're gonna be like, it'll be four more days until that episode comes out.
4:20
SPEAKER_01: And just like Alfred from Austin, you're gonna be like, hey, I'm craving some dirt nap city.
4:26
SPEAKER_01: I'm driving down to the coast this weekend.
4:28
SPEAKER_01: When's the next episode coming out?
4:30
SPEAKER_01: And we'll say, Slow down there, Alfred.
4:32
SPEAKER_01: You got four more days, but you'll appreciate the fact that we're slowing time down for you.
4:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
4:37
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
4:38
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you could think, I thought you were gonna say, when did this happen to me?
4:43
SPEAKER_00: Was it before or after I listened to the Mr.
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SPEAKER_00: Rogers episode?
4:46
SPEAKER_00: And that kind of is a marker of somebody's life.
4:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
4:49
SPEAKER_01: Well, yeah, you could also do that.
4:51
SPEAKER_01: We I think you and I have started talking about our lives in terms of episodes, you know, like there was pre-Andre and then post-Andre, and and and uh and of course Seuss was a big one, big milestone.
5:01
SPEAKER_00: Problem with that is it doesn't work when you're talking to other people because people listen to it at different times.
5:06
SPEAKER_00: I wish this was live.
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SPEAKER_00: Like I know this is live for Chris, but I wish other people could be listening at at the same time.
5:14
SPEAKER_01: True.
5:14
SPEAKER_01: True.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, maybe we'll start live stream live streaming our recording sessions.
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SPEAKER_01: Or maybe not.
5:20
SPEAKER_01: Well, what do we got coming up today?
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SPEAKER_01: This guy was born in 1503 in France.
5:24
SPEAKER_01: Okay, I'm gonna say Jean-Pierre Jacques.
5:29
SPEAKER_00: Oh, so close.
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SPEAKER_00: Died in 1566.
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SPEAKER_01: So pretty old for that time period.
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SPEAKER_00: 63 years old.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know if that's true or not, but it doesn't matter.
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SPEAKER_00: I think life expectancies back then, that's pretty old.
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SPEAKER_00: And here's the one and only clue I'm gonna get I give you.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: Is that you didn't know, you don't know who this person is, but he predicted this episode was gonna happen.
5:53
SPEAKER_00: Nostradamus.
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unknown: Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: All you had to say was predict it.
5:59
SPEAKER_00: We're gonna talk about Nostradamus.
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SPEAKER_00: Do you know anything about him?
6:02
SPEAKER_00: I didn't even know he was French.
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SPEAKER_00: There you go.
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SPEAKER_00: His real name was Michel de Notre Dame.
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SPEAKER_00: You know who Nostradamus was supposed to do, right?
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SPEAKER_00: He was supposed to predict the future.
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SPEAKER_00: No idea.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know, I don't know anything about this dude.
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SPEAKER_00: But you know that that's kind of his reputation, is that he was one that predicted things, right?
6:19
SPEAKER_00: Yes, he was a predictor.
6:20
SPEAKER_00: But you don't know who he was or what he did.
6:22
SPEAKER_00: Nada.
6:23
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
6:23
SPEAKER_00: Well, this will be good then.
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SPEAKER_00: So um he was just a regular guy in France in the 1500s, you know, just bumping around.
6:33
SPEAKER_00: Eating uh French bread, drinking coffee, probably smoking cigarettes.
6:37
SPEAKER_00: Sure, sure, sure.
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SPEAKER_00: Went to college early, uh, age 14, went to university, as they say, but he had to leave the university, the university closed because of the plague.
6:48
SPEAKER_00: Oh, the plague.
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SPEAKER_00: That's probably why we don't hear a lot about the 1500s, is because it was all about the plague, and that is and the plague was way worse than COVID.
6:58
SPEAKER_01: So, so I just heard something the other day from um a little thing I was listening to with uh Neil deGrasse Tyson, and he was talking about the plague.
7:08
SPEAKER_00: Fellow podcaster.
7:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that it was part of a podcast.
7:11
SPEAKER_01: He was talking about the plague, and he said the reason that the plague uh spread more among um unmarried men, like unmarried men were more likely to die from the plague because they had more rats in their house.
7:28
SPEAKER_01: Oh, no, I know what it was.
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SPEAKER_01: It was if you owned cats, then you had fewer rats, and more women than men owned cats during that time, and that's why cats are associated with witches because people thought they didn't get the plague because they were a witch.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, so if you were a woman and you didn't get the plague during this time, you were labeled a witch, but it was probably because you owned a cat, and that's why we associate cats with um with uh witches.
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SPEAKER_00: Wow, well that's really interesting.
7:57
SPEAKER_00: So he had to leave the university because they they closed because of the plague.
8:02
SPEAKER_00: So he just traveled the French countryside for eight years.
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SPEAKER_00: And well, I picture this like as a uh kung fu, right?
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SPEAKER_00: You're just roaming, roaming the earth, looking for deeds, as little Michel de Notre Dame, researching herbal remedies.
8:18
SPEAKER_00: He was all about um uh kind of uh natural medicine, and he entered college uh to get his doctorate in medicine, what we'd call an MD today, but he was expelled from medical school when they found out that he had been an apocalypse.
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SPEAKER_01: Is that a is that like a pharmacist?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
8:38
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
8:39
SPEAKER_00: Apparently that was manual trade being an apocalypse.
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SPEAKER_00: Apothecary.
8:46
SPEAKER_00: Apothecary.
8:46
SPEAKER_00: Apothecary.
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SPEAKER_00: And uh that was prohibited in medical school.
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SPEAKER_00: If you had done any manual labor, you were out.
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SPEAKER_00: Plus, he was uh talking some trash about uh some physicians of the day, too.
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SPEAKER_00: He was kind of uh out there uh saying bad things about as pharmacists sometimes do.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: I've been to their conventions.
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SPEAKER_00: So people still called him doctor and uh after he got kicked out of medical school, and he went back to uh to uh to being an apothecary and he even so sold a pill, a rose pill that he thought or he said that would protect people against the plague.
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SPEAKER_01: Wow.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it turns out it's just fleas that spread the plague, and fleas were on rats, so he just got cats.
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SPEAKER_00: He was running around France saying that he could cure the plague.
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SPEAKER_00: Then he got married, and three years later his wife and kids died from the plague.
9:46
SPEAKER_00: Oh man, irony.
9:48
SPEAKER_00: I know.
9:49
SPEAKER_00: I laughed too when I heard that.
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SPEAKER_01: It's terrible.
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SPEAKER_01: I think that was originally part of a um part of a song by um oh, who was the woman that sang isn't an ironic uh, yeah.
10:00
SPEAKER_01: He he died, she died two weeks later from the plague.
10:05
SPEAKER_00: Later on, he got remarried, he married a wealthy widow.
10:09
SPEAKER_00: And they had six kind of widows.
10:11
SPEAKER_00: I was gonna say, if you gotta marry a widow, marry a wealthy one.
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SPEAKER_00: They had six kids and then he was set.
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SPEAKER_00: He could do kind of whatever he wanted.
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SPEAKER_00: How many cats did they have?
10:20
SPEAKER_00: No, not uh not listed here.
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SPEAKER_00: So he went to Italy and moved away from medicine and got focused on the occult.
10:30
SPEAKER_00: Oh, nice.
10:31
SPEAKER_00: As you do, like blue oyster.
10:33
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
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SPEAKER_00: And at the same time, he's focused on the occult and he's got these herbal remedies and he's got all the money he's he he needs, wealthy widow money.
10:44
SPEAKER_00: Right.
10:44
SPEAKER_00: Um, the other thing that was going on at the time was the printing press had just come out.
10:49
SPEAKER_00: Okay, and so it made it easy for anybody to print anything.
10:55
SPEAKER_00: So it was like the Twitter of its day, right?
10:58
SPEAKER_00: Social media of its day that you, if you had access to a printing press, you could just print books and get the word out about anything.
11:05
SPEAKER_00: Prior to that, only certain people, only nobility or clergy people could get books out.
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SPEAKER_01: It could sort of democratized communication.
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SPEAKER_00: Sure.
11:17
SPEAKER_00: Before that, you probably had to have like monks writing things and copying things.
11:21
SPEAKER_01: They weren't they weren't writing, they were scribing.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, it probably didn't completely democratize it because you still had to have enough money to to have access to a printing press.
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SPEAKER_00: It moved it in that direction.
11:30
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
11:31
SPEAKER_00: It was like MySpace.
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SPEAKER_00: But it was exactly like social media is today, where all of a sudden Exactly like social media today.
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SPEAKER_00: Other than all that other stuff.
11:40
SPEAKER_00: But he could get the word out.
11:42
SPEAKER_00: So he had crazy ideas.
11:43
SPEAKER_00: He was studying the occult, he was studying kind of this fake medicine.
11:47
SPEAKER_00: Um, but almanacs started to be really popular back then, and he wrote an almanac in 1550.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, and he used the Latin word for his name.
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SPEAKER_00: So his name was uh uh Michel de Nostradam, and the Latin word for that was Nostradamus.
12:06
SPEAKER_00: So that was kind of his stage name, pen name kind of thing.
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SPEAKER_00: And he wrote an almanacs every year, they were very popular, and he from 1550 to 1566, he wrote an almanac every year.
12:18
SPEAKER_00: And I don't know if you've ever read an almanac.
12:20
SPEAKER_00: I used to be obsessed with almanacs when I was a kid.
12:23
SPEAKER_01: I don't think I I've heard of the farmer's almanac and it predicts the weather, right?
12:28
SPEAKER_00: That's almanacs are great.
12:29
SPEAKER_00: They're they have lots of lists, they have lots of predictions and projections, and they just have all kinds of the world almanac.
12:38
SPEAKER_00: I used to get that every Christmas.
12:39
SPEAKER_01: So is this like a toilet reader, like something you could just sit on the toilet and you don't re you can kind of start and stop whenever you want?
12:46
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
12:46
SPEAKER_01: If you want to be crass.
12:48
SPEAKER_01: What's crass about that?
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SPEAKER_00: Now in 1550, I'm not sure being on the toilet was as pleasurable of an experience as it might be today.
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SPEAKER_00: But it was probably a hole in the ground.
12:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: No paper.
12:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
13:00
SPEAKER_00: We probably don't need any more of those details.
13:02
SPEAKER_01: But Well, you had your almanac.
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SPEAKER_00: Maybe that's why they were so popular.
13:08
SPEAKER_00: Why is there pages missing from this almanac?
13:10
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
13:11
SPEAKER_00: Maybe we're on to something now.
13:13
SPEAKER_00: But all so in these almanacs, he would write prophecies.
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SPEAKER_00: Prophecies would be predictions for the future, but they would kind of be in the form of a poem, um, frequently rhymed.
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SPEAKER_00: They were like usually like four lines, and they would be very vague, but there were prophecies.
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SPEAKER_00: He wrote 6,338 prophecies in all and 11 calendars, and he would come up with horoscopes, and hor astrology was kind of coming into vogue, and he used to uh write horoscopes for the kings and queens of the day.
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SPEAKER_00: And in fact, even though most people thought he was a fake and a phony and a crazy person at the time, um his biggest fan was the wife of Henry II, the king of France, uh Catherine de' Medici, and she was a big fan of his.
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SPEAKER_00: So most people thought he was crazy.
14:08
SPEAKER_00: And maybe they bought the almanacs to see kind of how crazy he was, but she loved him.
14:13
SPEAKER_01: It was like buying the uh buying the tabloids, you know, the National Inquirer, yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Um but he was afraid this whole time that he would be beheaded for heresy.
14:24
SPEAKER_00: Back then they didn't play when it came to heresy.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but technically, prophecy and astrology didn't meet the definition of heresy, but magic did.
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SPEAKER_00: What he was doing wasn't magic, yeah.
14:38
SPEAKER_00: It was just saying stupid things.
14:41
SPEAKER_00: Or owning a cat during the plague.
14:43
SPEAKER_00: Right.
14:43
SPEAKER_00: You really want to get that cat plague uh uh connection down, yeah.
14:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
14:48
SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean they they burned witches for it, right?
14:52
SPEAKER_00: Right, right, right, right, right.
14:53
SPEAKER_00: Now, like I said, during his life he wasn't very respected.
14:58
SPEAKER_00: He finally died of gout.
15:02
SPEAKER_00: If you gotta go though.
15:05
SPEAKER_01: He said he said, Hey everybody, I'm gout.
15:10
SPEAKER_00: Nostradamus gout.
15:11
SPEAKER_00: He died with about$300,000 in today's money, which you know, isn't bad.
15:16
SPEAKER_00: Not bad.
15:16
SPEAKER_00: Um and on the evening of July 1st, he is alleged to have told his secretary, You will not find me alive at sunrise, which probably was his greatest prediction.
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SPEAKER_00: The one that actually did come true because the next morning he was found dead, lying on the floor next to his bed.
15:36
SPEAKER_00: Or so his secretary says.
15:38
SPEAKER_01: Did he sell these like is that how he made his money?
15:41
SPEAKER_01: Was by selling these almanacs?
15:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
15:43
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
15:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
15:44
SPEAKER_00: But he also had a rich widow.
15:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
15:46
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm not sure how much money he made off of these things, and I'm not sure who was buying these things.
15:51
SPEAKER_00: I don't think the common person was buying almanacs.
15:55
SPEAKER_00: I don't think they were farmer almanacs.
15:57
SPEAKER_00: They were basically just astrology, horoscopes, uh but on on parchment or on paper or scrolls.
16:05
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
16:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
16:06
SPEAKER_00: I think it was I think it was paper.
16:08
SPEAKER_01: Do you know if any of these still exist?
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SPEAKER_00: Like are there any writings by not only do they still exist, but there's one at the University of Texas San Antonio, um, right down the street from us.
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SPEAKER_00: Like an original.
16:20
SPEAKER_00: An original, um, well, an original yeah.
16:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Like from that time period.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he it wouldn't be in his writing or anything, but it would be from the printing press.
16:29
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
16:30
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
16:31
SPEAKER_00: Okay, but you said he was dead, or so we thought.
16:34
SPEAKER_00: No, I said, so that's what your secretary wants you to.
16:37
SPEAKER_00: I mean, his secretary said, Oh, yesterday he said that he would be dead by the morning.
16:42
SPEAKER_01: I don't know what happened.
16:43
SPEAKER_01: She said that that was a prediction that he made.
16:46
SPEAKER_01: He.
16:46
SPEAKER_01: He.
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SPEAKER_01: She said he made that prediction.
16:48
SPEAKER_01: No, there was no she's in this.
16:50
SPEAKER_01: The secretary.
16:50
SPEAKER_01: Oh, the secretary was a head.
16:53
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
16:54
SPEAKER_01: So back then men were secretaries?
16:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was like his personal secretary.
16:59
SPEAKER_00: I think they are now, too.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
17:02
SPEAKER_00: Oh, like secretary of state.
17:03
SPEAKER_00: No.
17:04
SPEAKER_00: No, like his personal assistant.
17:06
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
17:07
SPEAKER_00: I'm just saying it's kind of funny because you could kind of murder somebody back then by saying, well, you could especially murder a uh a prophet?
17:21
SPEAKER_00: A prophet, if you said, Well, I don't know, he told me he was gonna die in the morning, and look at this, he died.
17:27
SPEAKER_01: Wow, and he happened to have signed over all of his uh 300,000 pounds to me.
17:33
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
17:33
SPEAKER_00: He told me he was gonna do that.
17:35
SPEAKER_00: Um here's what's funny, too, is that a plagiarism, because writing was new back then, plagiarism wasn't really a thing, and it was very common.
17:46
SPEAKER_00: So what he would do is he would read other books with uh mostly religious text that had prophecies, and he would just copy that.
17:55
SPEAKER_00: Oh.
17:56
SPEAKER_00: And so a lot of most of what he did was cut from other people's works.
18:02
SPEAKER_00: The even the astrologist from back then said he wasn't doing astrology right.
18:08
SPEAKER_00: Um, so he wasn't very respected by very many people.
18:12
SPEAKER_00: Sometimes he would take a book off the shelf and he would just write about whatever page it fell open to and just make a prophecy about that.
18:22
SPEAKER_01: Would that be like like somebody going to Wikipedia and and getting a bunch of information and then making a podcast about the person?
18:29
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, in fact, I was just gonna say this it it kind of hits too close to home.
18:34
SPEAKER_00: This is how I'd decide who I'm gonna talk about each week is I open a book of I have a book called Famous People Who Are Dead, and then I just open it to whoever fall whoever opens it, uh, whoever it falls open to, and I talk about it.
18:47
SPEAKER_00: And it just shows you how, especially when you're talking about things like astrology, how it's kind of designed to be so vague that it always works for you, or fortune cookies or whatever.
18:58
SPEAKER_00: Power suggestion.
18:59
SPEAKER_00: Right.
18:59
SPEAKER_00: And you discount the things that don't have anything to do with you, and then you kind of stretch the things that might have something to do with you.
19:06
SPEAKER_00: Or you add the words in bed.
19:08
SPEAKER_00: There you go.
19:09
SPEAKER_00: Um, most of the prophecies that he talked about had to do with disasters.
19:15
SPEAKER_00: He they weren't mundane things, they would have to do with disasters, and every time there's been a disaster in the last in our lifetime, it seems to somebody find some passage that Nostradamus wrote that you could make about any disaster.
19:31
SPEAKER_01: So he just predicted a a disaster on every day for like 400 years, and then on the days when it actually happens, it lines up.
19:38
SPEAKER_00: Well, he actually was actually weirdly specific.
19:42
SPEAKER_00: He said that his prophecies only extend to the year 3797.
19:46
SPEAKER_00: After that, you're on your own.
19:48
SPEAKER_00: 3797.
19:49
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
19:49
SPEAKER_02: All right.
19:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so you know.
19:51
SPEAKER_00: Is that the end of days?
19:53
SPEAKER_00: No, well no, but every now and then somebody says that he predicts the predicted that.
20:01
SPEAKER_00: Um the Mayans that thought the world was gonna end in 2012, they said that Nostradamus said that too.
20:07
SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of there's just such mystery and such uh vagueness to his writing that you could make any year kind of seem like it's it's the end.
20:16
SPEAKER_00: The key was that he used Latin words and double meanings.
20:22
SPEAKER_00: Nobody ever talks about a Nostradamus prediction before it happens.
20:26
SPEAKER_00: Everybody always talks about, see, look what he said about this.
20:30
SPEAKER_00: Right.
20:31
SPEAKER_00: And nobody say you better watch out next year because Nostradamus predicted something was happening.
20:36
SPEAKER_00: But every time we have a disaster, they seem to say, Oh, yeah, he predicted this.
20:40
SPEAKER_00: So here's some of the things they said that he predicted the Great Fire of London, uh, the French Revolution, okay, the rise of Napoleon, the rise of Hitler, both world wars, the nuclear destruction of um Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the moon landing, the challenger disaster, the death of Princess Diana, 9-11, and COVID 19.
21:05
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
21:06
SPEAKER_00: Now most of those things, some of the most they've all happened since 1566 when he died.
21:12
SPEAKER_00: They fell in that.
21:13
SPEAKER_00: But almost all those things have happened in the last hundred years, haven't they?
21:16
SPEAKER_01: Okay, but but like, do you actually have the verbiage about say Princess Diana?
21:22
SPEAKER_00: I don't have that one, but we'll get into some of this here.
21:24
SPEAKER_00: All right.
21:25
SPEAKER_00: So he started getting popular in 1947.
21:30
SPEAKER_00: There was a book written called The Complete Prophecies of Nostradamus, and it was published seven more times over the next 40 years.
21:37
SPEAKER_00: So really, that's you know, 400 years after he died.
21:42
SPEAKER_00: So that's why a lot of these 20th century and 19th century things were things that he predicted, and not a lot before that.
21:50
SPEAKER_00: Um there was an incredible academic backlash over this.
21:54
SPEAKER_00: The people that actually went and studied this guy uh say it's what I was describing before.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: Before they call retroactive clairvoyance.
22:02
SPEAKER_01: Or revisionist history.
22:05
SPEAKER_00: Well, sure, sure, sure.
22:07
SPEAKER_00: Retroactive clairvoyance basically means yeah, now that you now that it happened, he you know that he predicted it.
22:14
SPEAKER_00: But if it was really spot on, we could predict something before we could say something.
22:19
SPEAKER_01: Oh, uh Nostradamus predicted the great snow apocalypse in 2021 in Texas.
22:24
SPEAKER_00: Right.
22:24
SPEAKER_00: And they yeah, exactly.
22:26
SPEAKER_00: They also say that the translation is very poor, and that if you know anything about 16th century French, it wouldn't make as much sense as you think.
22:36
SPEAKER_00: Like there's a lot of leaps that people have to make to make this stuff made sense.
22:41
SPEAKER_01: But it works because nobody knows much about 16th century French.
22:44
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
22:44
SPEAKER_01: Except you.
22:45
SPEAKER_01: Except me.
22:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
22:46
SPEAKER_01: That's my major.
22:47
SPEAKER_00: In 1981, there was a movie, a documentary out called The Man Who Saw Tomorrow, and it was narrated by Orson Wells.
22:55
SPEAKER_00: And that you may remember that when I remember that when I was a kid.
22:58
SPEAKER_00: I remember do you remember the TV show called In Search of?
23:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
23:02
SPEAKER_00: Leonard Nimoy.
23:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
23:03
SPEAKER_00: This is the kind of stuff he loved.
23:05
SPEAKER_00: He would love talking about kind of these the Loch Ness Monster and Bigfoot and Nostra Damas.
23:10
SPEAKER_00: Um, kind of an early predecessor to our show here.
23:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
23:15
SPEAKER_00: Um, do you remember the Simpsons episode where your homer predicted the end of the world?
23:20
SPEAKER_00: Uh yes.
23:22
SPEAKER_00: And it didn't happen, and everyone got mad at him.
23:25
SPEAKER_00: Uh, and the comic book guy said, Hey, Nostra Dumbass, did that rapture come?
23:30
SPEAKER_00: I can't recall.
23:31
SPEAKER_00: Oh, in fact, I can recall, and it didn't, and you suck.
23:37
SPEAKER_00: Worst prediction ever.
23:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Nostra dumbass.
23:40
SPEAKER_00: So here's an example of the 9-11 passage where he predicted 9-11, all right?
23:45
SPEAKER_00: All right.
23:46
SPEAKER_00: And this is translated into English.
23:48
SPEAKER_01: So it's from from 16th century French.
23:51
SPEAKER_00: And it probably would have rhymed, right?
23:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, okay.
23:53
SPEAKER_00: So this is this is the idea of the kind of thing that they go, oh my gosh, he predicted 9-11.
23:57
SPEAKER_00: All right, here it is.
23:58
SPEAKER_00: Five and forty degrees the sky shall burn.
24:01
SPEAKER_00: To the great new city shall the fire draw nigh.
24:05
SPEAKER_00: With vehemence the flames shall spread and churn, when with the Normans they conclusions try.
24:12
SPEAKER_00: That's it.
24:13
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
24:14
SPEAKER_00: Just those four lines.
24:15
SPEAKER_00: So they're like six lines.
24:17
SPEAKER_00: Forty five and forty degrees.
24:19
SPEAKER_00: Well, the latitude of New York City is forty degrees and forty-seven minutes.
24:25
SPEAKER_00: That's close to forty-five degrees.
24:27
SPEAKER_00: It's not forty-five degrees.
24:28
SPEAKER_00: And then the great new city.
24:30
SPEAKER_00: Oh, New York.
24:32
SPEAKER_00: Well, it turns out there's lots of cities in the world that have like that new city.
24:37
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
24:37
SPEAKER_00: Kind of.
24:37
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
24:38
SPEAKER_00: In fact, Naples is means new city as well.
24:41
SPEAKER_00: So they claim anything that bad that happens in Naples, they also claim this line.
24:45
SPEAKER_00: So there's a lot of you see how it's not like he wrote down there'll be two towers that are hit by airplanes.
24:52
SPEAKER_00: And right.
24:53
SPEAKER_00: Well, they didn't have airplanes, but yeah.
24:55
SPEAKER_00: But if he was predicting things, he should have known that too.
24:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
24:58
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
24:58
SPEAKER_01: So you're you doubt his you doubt his clairvoyance.
25:01
SPEAKER_01: Is that what I'm gathering?
25:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
25:03
SPEAKER_00: Well, if you know, uh if you've been listening to this show, and I'm not sure if you have, um, I'm skeptical about most uh things that have to do with I think there was an episode we talked about ghosts, maybe on Harry Houdini.
25:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Houdini.
25:15
SPEAKER_00: Uh I'm skeptical about all this stuff.
25:18
SPEAKER_00: But the thing that's important, I think, is that people do believe it.
25:22
SPEAKER_00: And in World War II, the Germans actually tried to capitalize on the fact that people did believe this.
25:31
SPEAKER_00: The Germans dropped leaflets over France in World War II saying that Nostradamus had predicted that France was gonna lose the war.
25:38
SPEAKER_00: So just give up now.
25:40
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
25:40
SPEAKER_00: Because it's ordained, he already predicted it was gonna happen.
25:43
SPEAKER_00: And Hitler and Goebbels actually believed this.
25:47
SPEAKER_00: They like fell for it.
25:48
SPEAKER_00: Even though it was propaganda, they they fell for it.
25:51
SPEAKER_00: They believed it.
25:52
SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, if you're gonna if you're gonna go to all that trouble and you don't believe in it, then why go to all the trouble, right?
25:57
SPEAKER_00: Then the Americans figured this out, and then we started dropping leaflets on Germany saying, no, no, no.
26:04
SPEAKER_00: It was just the opposite.
26:05
SPEAKER_00: They said you guys were gonna lose.
26:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
26:07
SPEAKER_01: And you'll all die in a fiery 540 degrees, five and forty degrees in a fiery crash.
26:14
SPEAKER_01: Right.
26:14
SPEAKER_01: So Didn't didn't the Germans also try to steal the Ark of the Covenant?
26:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the Nazis?
26:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that was uh yeah, that was uh Raiders of the Lost Ark.
26:24
SPEAKER_00: That yes, yes, that was true, right?
26:26
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
26:27
SPEAKER_00: Oh I don't know, that's a different episode.
26:29
SPEAKER_00: Now, some people say he even predicted climate change.
26:31
SPEAKER_00: Let me hit you with this rhyme.
26:33
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
26:33
SPEAKER_00: For 40 years the rainbow will not be seen.
26:36
SPEAKER_00: For 40 years it will be seen every day.
26:39
SPEAKER_00: The dry earth will grow more parched, and there will be great floods when it is seen.
26:46
SPEAKER_01: I mean, that does sound like kind of what's going on today.
26:50
SPEAKER_01: Dry earth and floods, and um I guess and interesting that they picked 40, you know, because 40 was always big in the Bible, right?
26:59
SPEAKER_01: The 40 days and 40 nights of rain from Noah, 40 days or 40 years lost in the wilderness.
27:07
SPEAKER_01: Um was was he a Christian?
27:11
SPEAKER_00: Like did he believe was was he Catholic?
27:13
SPEAKER_00: I think.
27:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he was Catholic.
27:15
SPEAKER_00: In fact, he his family was Jewish, and I think his grandfather had converted, and that's how they got the name uh de Nostradam, which means of our lady.
27:25
SPEAKER_00: Um so they kind of kind of picked their name, the the Nostradamon, yeah, but he was very Catholic.
27:31
SPEAKER_01: Okay, yeah.
27:31
SPEAKER_01: So the 40 days and 40 nights and all that sort of thing kind of fits in there.
27:36
SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, I mean, but but again, the vagueness of it is a little bit hard to get past as far as as far as saying, um, yeah.
27:44
SPEAKER_00: Let me tell you the one where he predicted Hitler.
27:47
SPEAKER_00: In the mountains of Austria near the Rhine, there will be born of simple parents.
27:53
SPEAKER_00: That's that's how it starts.
27:55
SPEAKER_00: That's pretty cool.
27:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
27:56
SPEAKER_00: And then the other part it says the greatest part of the battlefield will be against Hister.
28:02
SPEAKER_00: And people are like, Histor, he means Hitler.
28:05
SPEAKER_00: Well, Histor was another name for the Danube River.
28:09
SPEAKER_01: Ah, but maybe that was more about climate change.
28:12
SPEAKER_00: But they're like, Oh, that's close enough.
28:13
SPEAKER_00: He said hit Hister, that might as well mean Hitler, yeah, stuff like that.
28:17
SPEAKER_01: You know, you know, it is interesting the psychology of people because I think when you plant a seed, I okay, I'll I've realized something about myself.
28:27
SPEAKER_01: I if I, for example, right now, Chris is mixing this on a Rodecaster Pro 1.
28:34
SPEAKER_01: It's a it's a little mixer designed for podcasting.
28:37
SPEAKER_01: I saw the Rodecaster Pro 2, and I was kind of intrigued because it has some cool features.
28:44
SPEAKER_01: You can make your voice sound like a robot.
28:46
SPEAKER_01: That's really cool, right?
28:47
SPEAKER_01: How cool would it be right now if I just sounded like a robot.
28:49
SPEAKER_01: But we don't have that, we don't have the right equipment to do that.
28:52
SPEAKER_01: So, what do I do?
28:53
SPEAKER_01: I go on to YouTube and I start watching um reviews about the Rodecaster Pro 2, and I start justifying in my head.
29:03
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh, I'm gonna watch this review to tell me if it's any good or not.
29:07
SPEAKER_01: I've already decided I want it, right?
29:09
SPEAKER_01: And so all they're doing is reinforcing what I want to believe.
29:12
SPEAKER_01: That's where I'm going with this.
29:13
SPEAKER_01: Right is confirmation bias.
29:16
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yes, I like that.
29:17
SPEAKER_01: So confirming what yeah, I mean, it's like watching MSNBC or Fox News, right?
29:22
SPEAKER_01: You're just confirming what you already believe.
29:24
SPEAKER_01: Well, hey, what's his name?
29:25
SPEAKER_01: Said it, so it must be true.
29:27
SPEAKER_01: Uh that's interesting because it sounds like he was an early um user of that.
29:33
SPEAKER_01: Like he understood how to make people believe things that were things they already believed.
29:40
SPEAKER_00: And with his history of kind of being a medicine show guy selling rose pills to beat the plague, kind of had a history of kind of that hucksterism, the uh you know, the Barnum and Bailey, every sucker born uh every minute kind of thing.
29:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
29:56
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I I see where that was.
29:57
SPEAKER_00: I think he knew exactly what he was doing.
30:00
SPEAKER_00: But I don't think he knew that in 400 years people would be using every I mean he was a kook at the time.
30:06
SPEAKER_01: I don't think anybody at that time thought about the world 400 years from now.
30:10
SPEAKER_01: I mean they don't know.
30:12
SPEAKER_01: Definitely don't know.
30:13
SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, except for maybe sci-fi.
30:15
SPEAKER_01: You know, we we we look at Blade Runner.
30:17
SPEAKER_00: No, but we don't create things for consumption in the future.
30:20
SPEAKER_01: Oh, they're still gonna be listening to Dirt Nap City 400 years from now.
30:24
SPEAKER_01: People other than us.
30:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
30:25
SPEAKER_01: We're we're the Nostradamai of our time.
30:28
SPEAKER_01: That's the plural.
30:29
SPEAKER_00: Listen to this one.
30:29
SPEAKER_00: I want to give you this one and tell you uh well, I'll I'll tell you the the rhyme, or it's not really a rhyme, but I'll tell you the uh they call it a uh quadrine.
30:40
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
30:40
SPEAKER_00: But here here we go.
30:42
SPEAKER_00: And you tell me what you think it's talking about.
30:44
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
30:45
SPEAKER_00: The two contenders will unite together when most others unite with Mars.
30:50
SPEAKER_00: The African leader is fearful and trembles, the dual alliance is separated by the fleet.
30:58
SPEAKER_01: Oh Um, it sounds like an election, maybe.
31:04
SPEAKER_01: Like two people going against each other in an election.
31:07
SPEAKER_00: Was it uh now uh I'll tell you what people right now are saying that refers to is Elon Musk.
31:15
SPEAKER_00: Oh, because he's the African South African and it talks about Mars.
31:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and that's all they need is for those two parts about Africa and Mars, and they go, Oh, it's clear they're talking about Elon Musk.
31:26
SPEAKER_00: Right.
31:27
SPEAKER_00: Even though it really makes no sense.
31:29
SPEAKER_00: But if he does something, uh like so people say, Oh, the two contenders will unite together.
31:35
SPEAKER_00: Elon Musk has a relationship with Russia, and they're trying to be in cahoots and no, it's right there in the readings.
31:42
SPEAKER_01: All you have to do is read it.
31:43
SPEAKER_01: Well, it's funny because like when you initially asked me what it meant, I'm my brain's going around, I'm trying to figure something out, see, say something clever.
31:50
SPEAKER_01: But then as soon as you start giving an explanation about it, like it sort of like cements it in my head.
31:56
SPEAKER_01: Oh, wait, you're right.
31:57
SPEAKER_01: That is oh how could I be so stupid not to see that?
32:00
SPEAKER_00: Here's one that hasn't been attributed to anything, but I just kind of like the way it sounds.
32:05
SPEAKER_00: So I'll give you one Okay, I'll tell you what it means.
32:07
SPEAKER_00: Anybody has ever said it means anything, but here's one, you tell me what it means.
32:10
SPEAKER_00: I will.
32:11
SPEAKER_00: The trumpet shakes with great discord, an agreement broken, living the lifting the face to heaven, the bloody mouth will swim with blood, the face anointed with milk and honey lies on the ground.
32:26
SPEAKER_01: So look at the second word.
32:29
SPEAKER_01: Trump it.
32:30
SPEAKER_01: Right?
32:31
SPEAKER_01: So that's I think that Donald Trump is going to eventually be in a boxing match with Lindsey Graham.
32:38
SPEAKER_01: We're gonna have like a deat match, cage match kind of thing, and the bloody mouth will be the punch received and the punch given.
32:45
SPEAKER_01: And then what about the milk and honey?
32:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's where that's Lindsey Graham holding up the uh the triumphant trophy where milk and honey is spilling over into his mouth.
32:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and it was all right there.
32:55
SPEAKER_00: Notre Dame is predicted.
32:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, how could you not have seen this?
32:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
32:58
SPEAKER_00: No, I mean, again, Trump was the second word, obvious.
33:01
SPEAKER_00: So I kind of got into this, Kelly, and I kind of decided that I was gonna leave something.
33:06
SPEAKER_00: So right now, you're gonna do a prediction?
33:08
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna do a prediction.
33:09
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
33:09
SPEAKER_00: And in 400 years, people out there of the future, I'm talking to you, in 400 years, you find our kids and tell us exactly.
33:18
SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna tell you exactly what I'm predicting, but I'm gonna give you to it in the form of this quadrine.
33:23
SPEAKER_01: Okay, thank you.
33:24
SPEAKER_00: Here we go.
33:26
SPEAKER_00: On nigh, it appears that a man with sheep's clothing will inherit much wealth from an ox's loathing, but he too will reign on high from the epic sleigh they call Orion.
33:40
SPEAKER_01: I got shivers, man.
33:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
33:42
SPEAKER_00: I got shivers.
33:42
SPEAKER_00: I it's sounds like a rush song, maybe.
33:46
SPEAKER_01: It's like side two of farewell to kings.
33:48
SPEAKER_01: Like you never really listen to it, but when you be rush lyrics on Ron.
33:53
SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah.
33:54
SPEAKER_00: Um, wait, we read it one more time.
33:56
SPEAKER_00: On nigh, it appears that a man with sheep's clothing will inherit much wealth from an ox's loathing, but he too will reign on high from the epic sleigh they call Orion.
34:08
SPEAKER_00: Okay, I've got it.
34:09
SPEAKER_01: Steve Irwin is coming back to life.
34:12
SPEAKER_01: He will be reborn by technology.
34:15
SPEAKER_01: They're gonna they're gonna basically inject the venom, um, what's it called?
34:19
SPEAKER_01: The antidote to the venom into him in 400 years.
34:22
SPEAKER_01: Uh, yeah, bring him back to life, and then he will actually at that time, um, we won't have any more synthetics because we'll have realized they're bad for your skin.
34:32
SPEAKER_01: He'll be wearing sheep's clothing, which is like wool, and then he will actually reign on high because he'll hop in a spaceship and fly up into space.
34:40
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
34:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and if it happens, you could say I called it.
34:44
SPEAKER_01: Well, you predicted it, and then I interpreted.
34:47
SPEAKER_01: All right.
34:47
SPEAKER_01: Well, that's all I got for Nostradamus today, Kevin.
34:50
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
34:50
SPEAKER_01: That was a lot, you know.
34:52
SPEAKER_01: I feel like this was one of our densest episodes.
34:54
SPEAKER_01: Like dense.
34:55
SPEAKER_01: And I don't mean dense in the dumb way, I mean dense in the lots going on way.
34:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
34:59
SPEAKER_00: But again, like some other people that we've had, not really, I wouldn't even say appreciated, not really a famous person in his time.
35:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but everybody's heard of him.
35:08
SPEAKER_00: Everybody's heard of him.
35:10
SPEAKER_00: I bet you if you asked people in France in the 1500s about a podcast in 400 years, they'd be like, Why are you doing that guy?
35:16
SPEAKER_00: He's crazy.
35:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
35:17
SPEAKER_00: And there's probably people on Twitter that are just as crazy that will be getting their own episodes in the future.
35:25
SPEAKER_00: We should look and see if there's a Nostradamus subreddit.
35:29
SPEAKER_00: That where people are making predictions or talking about them.
35:32
SPEAKER_00: Both.
35:33
SPEAKER_00: There's definitely a lot of chatter about his predictions and and applying them every time there seems to be like like I said, COVID-19.
35:43
SPEAKER_00: Every time there's something that comes out, people look back.
35:46
SPEAKER_00: And there's a lot of fake Nostradamus um things where people said, Oh, look, he predict I think the thing with Princess Diana was actually a fake.
35:55
SPEAKER_00: Uh that he there was nothing that he really predicted, but people make things up and they do like I just did and make it sound yeah, yeah.
36:03
SPEAKER_01: It's got that sort of uh weird, you know, you got to reference something about space, you got to have some reference about an animal, you gotta have some reference about pain or blood.
36:12
SPEAKER_01: Leave a lot of room for double meaning.
36:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
36:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, and then and then claim that it's clear.
36:18
SPEAKER_00: It's it's and like you said, if you want to believe enough, you can make anything fit these things.
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SPEAKER_01: And I have a prediction that in two weeks there will be another awesome episode of Dirt Knap City, and people should come back, don't you think?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that'd be great.
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SPEAKER_01: Two weeks.
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SPEAKER_01: Every two weeks, post them on Thursdays.
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SPEAKER_01: That's right.
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SPEAKER_01: So uh don't be uh not your dumbass.
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SPEAKER_01: Be sure to subscribe and uh download all the episodes.
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SPEAKER_01: Alex, that was awesome.
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SPEAKER_01: Thank you for teaching me.
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SPEAKER_01: I do feel like, like I said, I learned a lot.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm probably gonna listen to this one three or four more times so I can commit it to memory.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, that sounds good.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: So quiz me in about a week.
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SPEAKER_00: All right.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, thanks everybody for listening.
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SPEAKER_00: And until next time on Dirt Nap City, the show about interesting dead people.
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SPEAKER_00: Goodbye.
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SPEAKER_00: See you later.