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Colin Cowherd Podcast - Bears Light It Up, Packers Cause For Concern, Epic Texas Comeback vs. Ohio State, Josh Allen Dominant · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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  Speaker 1: The volume.
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  Speaker 2: All right, John Middlecoff, former NFL scout. His podcast is
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  Speaker 2: three and out. Well, the top teams in the NFC,
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  Speaker 2: the Rams... ugly loss. Sam Darnold hurt for the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 2: The Eagles offense is anemic, shocker again, and the Lions
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  Speaker 2: blew a 21-0 lead and held on to beat the
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  Speaker 2: Saints at home despite Tyler Shuck having a first half
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  Speaker 2: that was as bad as you could play in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: So the NFC, which felt like the heavy, the loaded conference,
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  Speaker 2: has had a very wild week one. Here's what wasn't
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  Speaker 2: disappointing about Bears 59, Carolina 37. So last year, Ben
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  Speaker 2: Johnson comes in and says, we've got to clean up
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  Speaker 2: the sacks. They did. This year, Ben Johnson comes in
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  Speaker 2: and says, we got to get the accuracy up. Caleb
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  Speaker 2: goes 21 to 29, 124 passer rating, 72% completion percentage
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  Speaker 2: in a game that was tied at 24 all at half.
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  Speaker 2: Chicago came out. I mean, first of all, When I
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  Speaker 2: went to the Bears practice, Caleb's speed, because he'd lost
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  Speaker 2: about 12 pounds, was noticeable. He had two runs today.
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  Speaker 2: One of them looked like a wide receiver. Secondly, John,
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  Speaker 2: let's start with this. I mean, when Ben came out
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  Speaker 2: and said, we want to be the greatest offense ever,
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  Speaker 2: it sounded a little like Mike Martz would say something
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  Speaker 2: like that. But you're watching today, and you're like, Roma
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  Speaker 2: Dunze now looks like a first-round pick. And, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Cole Komet had a touchdown yesterday. Listen, Carolina's not great,
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  Speaker 2: but the spread was three. It was on the road.
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  Speaker 2: I was blown away by the Bears' O-line, their efficiency.
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  Speaker 2: What say you?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, 59 points in an NFL game, especially week one,
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  Speaker 1: is absolutely incredible. I don't care if you're playing a
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  Speaker 1: college team, Colin. I mean, that was... I mean, coming
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  Speaker 1: into the season, I think we all had high hopes
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  Speaker 1: for Caleb, right? An MVP contender. This was, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: those touchdown runs, like you said, that pass he had
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  Speaker 1: to commit, which was a great catch. But how about
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  Speaker 1: the touch on that ball? Colin, last year it was
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  Speaker 1: clear when they really got going. Ben Johnson is not
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  Speaker 1: Andy Reid or Sean McVay. He's not trying to throw
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  Speaker 1: it 50 times a game. He loves running the football game.
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  Speaker 1: they had almost 300 yards rushing today, you know, and it's,
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  Speaker 1: it's Caleb had two big runs, but he only ran
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  Speaker 1: for 65 yards. They had 200 yard runners. They just
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  Speaker 1: extend Swift. But none GI looks fantastic. He had the
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  Speaker 1: long run. I called him this last year. I feel
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  Speaker 1: even better about it this year. He is the Midwest
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  Speaker 1: version of Kyle. He now he has, you know, Caleb
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  Speaker 1: is such an explosive playmaker, but Ben Johnson wants to
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  Speaker 1: run the bowl. Like they scored 59 points kind of
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  Speaker 1: playing like a Cignetti style that he threw. He had
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  Speaker 1: 29 pass attempts. If I would have told you the
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  Speaker 1: bears had a game this season where they scored 59 points,
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  Speaker 1: he'd probably been like Caleb has 40, 45 attempts and,
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  Speaker 1: you know, throws for 400 yards. 29 pass attempts, 59
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  Speaker 1: yard or 59 points. That's, I couldn't get out now.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to diminish the performance, but I do
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  Speaker 1: think we have to, the Bears defense, you know, just
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  Speaker 1: be like, this is some powerhouse Super Bowl lock. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: their defense got some issues, but man, that offense, maybe
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  Speaker 1: Ben was on to something. Their offense might shatter some records.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the Bears first two drives, they had 10
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  Speaker 2: rushes and three passes. So your first two drives of
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  Speaker 2: the game generally tell you what the offense and the
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  Speaker 2: head coach and the coordinators think. They sort of lay
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  Speaker 2: out what they want to do. It was going to
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  Speaker 2: be a 70-30 run Sunday. Eight touchdowns in any NFL game.
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  Speaker 2: And again, say what you want about Carolina. Playoff team,
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  Speaker 2: Bryce Young was pretty good today. I mean, they have three. Coker, Leggett, T-Mac,
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  Speaker 2: they have three giant receivers. they move the ball. I think,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Jalen Johnson, I think it's like a top
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  Speaker 2: 10 corner Malik Muhammad. They draft out of Texas. So they,
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  Speaker 2: and then they went and got the Oregon safety. They
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  Speaker 2: know their issues. Like they know they're not very good
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  Speaker 2: in the back end. And I do think Carolina presents
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  Speaker 2: challenges that most teams don't. They're gigantic at wide receiver.
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  Speaker 2: So I think, I think Carolina's offense, I mean, they
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  Speaker 2: have the Rams problems last year. Like if you have
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  Speaker 2: average corners, Carolina is a problem. Dave Canales is a
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  Speaker 2: clever offensive coach, but I, I'm, I said this on
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  Speaker 2: FS1 not long ago. I said by the end of
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  Speaker 2: the year, Caleb will be a top four or five quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: That's how we will view him. And, you know, I'm
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  Speaker 2: watching Jared Goff today, and you just can't do. Kirk
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  Speaker 2: Cousins with Las Vegas, who had a couple of picks.
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  Speaker 1: I'm watching.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, you're just kind of limited. Jared Goff, you're
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  Speaker 2: kind of limited in what you can do. If you're not,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Jameer Gibbs had a good day. But if
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  Speaker 2: you're running games not going, you're kind of stuck. And
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  Speaker 2: I'm watching Caleb and I'm like, and we saw Josh
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  Speaker 2: Allen today. You're given another 30% of playbook, John. You
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  Speaker 2: have so many options in Chicago. And the other thing is,
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  Speaker 2: All these young offensive guys, Roma Dunce, Luther Burden, Colston Loveland,
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  Speaker 2: a young guy, DeAndre Swift makes a pretty good living.
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  Speaker 2: But there are a lot of these guys are on
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  Speaker 2: rookie contracts. So you haven't had to pay them yet.
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  Speaker 2: Most are in like year two. So I just look
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  Speaker 2: at Chicago and I'm like, we're watching. This is an
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  Speaker 2: ascending group. This isn't the ceiling.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, when you have all these games going
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  Speaker 1: and you're kind of looking at all these different boxes,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Lamar and Josh today look like they are just,
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  Speaker 1: they're ready. I mean, those two guys. I mean, Josh is,
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  Speaker 1: I never saw Elway in his prime beside the highlights
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  Speaker 1: and the Netflix documentaries. I mean, was he that? what
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  Speaker 1: Josh brings to the table as a runner is like, gee,
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  Speaker 1: and Lamar, I was a little out on the Ravens,
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  Speaker 1: but I might need to change my tune. But those
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  Speaker 1: two guys, I mean, they're, I know they haven't gotten
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  Speaker 1: to the Superbowl, but they're two of the greatest regular
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  Speaker 1: season players we've ever seen. Caleb is, you know, his
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  Speaker 1: talent is right there with those guys. And remember last year,
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  Speaker 1: wasn't he running like 22 miles an hour? So speed
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  Speaker 1: as a runner is incredible. And now the accuracy, the commit,
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  Speaker 1: the touches. He had a great pass to Rome that
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  Speaker 1: Rome kind of mossed the guy, went over him. 59 points.
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  Speaker 1: That's almost statistically impossible in the NFL without a couple
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  Speaker 1: defensive touchdowns. It's not like they're getting pick sixes or
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  Speaker 1: fumble sixes. I mean, look at the Steelers. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: almost half their points come from TJ Watts pick six.
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  Speaker 1: The Bears, they do nothing. Now, Muhammad did have a pick,
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  Speaker 1: but their defense, they're going to have some games where
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  Speaker 1: they're going to need him to score a lot of
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  Speaker 1: these points.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and the thing about that division now, Kyler's hurt.
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  Speaker 2: Green Bay, kind of a tough watch today. Detroit, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the Saints kind of, I thought the Saints both lines
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  Speaker 2: of scrimmage were really good.
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  Speaker 1: Saints might be good. I mean, they started slow, but they,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you and I both like them this year.
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  Speaker 1: I think they're going to be pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: Let's remember, the Bears led the NFL in big plays
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  Speaker 2: last year. So, like, this is just an extension. It's
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  Speaker 2: year two of Ben Johnson. Yeah, I just Bears clobber Carolina,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't think it's a, well, Carolina's no good.
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  Speaker 2: Carolina's fine. Carolina's, you know, again, Carolina played some good
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  Speaker 2: teams close last year. Okay, the game of the day,
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  Speaker 2: Bills 36, Texans 31. I'll give you an example. This
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  Speaker 2: is the difference. I was telling my guys, because we're
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  Speaker 2: here at the volume offices, and I said, C.J. Stroud's
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  Speaker 2: a solid quarterback, but the last drive for both, the
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  Speaker 2: last drive of the game, Josh Allen was four of five,
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  Speaker 2: 82 yards, never sacked, and a perfect passer rating of 158.3. C.J.
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  Speaker 2: Stroud's last drive against the lesser of the two defenses,
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  Speaker 2: and he was at home, four of seven, 46 yards,
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  Speaker 2: sacked twice, and an 83 passer rating. Those last drives,
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  Speaker 2: watching those two quarterbacks, the gap in talent between a
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  Speaker 2: very solid playoff quarterback, C.J. Stroud, And Josh Allen, it
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  Speaker 2: is the Grand Canyon. I mean, I'm watching, I think
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  Speaker 2: Josh Allen, I did watch Elway. I would say Josh
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  Speaker 2: Allen is the most talented player in the NFL right now.
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  Speaker 2: The gap's pretty large. And then I would, I think,
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  Speaker 2: and I was watching him today and we were kind
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  Speaker 2: of talking about it. I, I, Just raw talent. Run, throw, accuracy,
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  Speaker 2: playmaking is Josh Allen the greatest talent in the history
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  Speaker 2: of the league. Talent at any position is close. He
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  Speaker 2: was a man amongst boys. And that's, for my money,
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  Speaker 2: at least coming into the season, the best defense in
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  Speaker 2: the league.
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  Speaker 1: They have it all. Speed, coverage. And it's not like
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  Speaker 1: he's throwing to Andre Reid out there. It's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of Palmer's game-winning touchdowns. I mean, Kincaid's a good player. But, man,
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  Speaker 1: he was– I like Houston coming into this game. I
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  Speaker 1: saw a stat on your show last week. They're 1-4
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  Speaker 1: the last five games. Remember last year in the game
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  Speaker 1: he was sacked like eight times and it felt like 30.
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  Speaker 1: And today he was just on a different level. Now,
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  Speaker 1: on that final drive, you said 4-5. He did have
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  Speaker 1: a far kind of just throw it up there and
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  Speaker 1: got lucky, Lassiter dropped the ball. I mean, that was Josh,
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  Speaker 1: what are you doing? But the very next play hits
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  Speaker 1: Palmer right over the middle game winning touchdown. And that's
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  Speaker 1: kind of the Paul he missed going kind of the
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  Speaker 1: other direction last year against Denver, right? For basically a
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  Speaker 1: game winning touchdown in the playoff game.
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  Speaker 2: Think about this. So Joe Brady takes over. We don't
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  Speaker 2: know if he's a good head coach. It's about a
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  Speaker 2: 50-50 hit rate on coordinators. But in Houston, against the
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  Speaker 2: best defense, Daniil Hunter didn't do much, but against the
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  Speaker 2: best defense in the league, in the first half, the
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  Speaker 2: Bills averaged 10 yards a play. That's insane. Nobody moved
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  Speaker 2: the ball like that last year. So DJ Moore had
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  Speaker 2: a touchdown. Boy, him and Jonathan Kincaid obviously work. Palmer
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  Speaker 2: was like a number four receiver. I think he's their
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  Speaker 2: fourth receiver. You know, Brandon Bean gets a lot of heat.
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  Speaker 2: And he is thin-skinned. I mean, he can be thin-skinned.
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  Speaker 1: He likes to meet you. He listens.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, it's Buffalo. It's the only game
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  Speaker 2: in town of note. So, you know, the GM of
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  Speaker 2: the Bills is going to get hammered, and he probably
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  Speaker 2: gets tired of it. And the fans are frustrated because
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  Speaker 2: they have the best player in the world, and they
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  Speaker 2: can't win a Super Bowl. I totally get it. But
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to defend him. I think their offensive talent's
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  Speaker 2: pretty good. I mean, I'm watching today. If Josh Palmer's
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  Speaker 2: your four, DJ Moore I thought was a good pickup,
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  Speaker 2: James Cook. They have really, really good tight ends. I
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  Speaker 2: thought their O-line handled themselves okay today. Like, I think–
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  Speaker 2: I picked Buffalo to win the Super Bowl. I picked
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  Speaker 2: Buffalo to get to the Super Bowl. I also thought
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  Speaker 2: Detroit could get there, Seattle, Rams. So, you know. But
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  Speaker 2: my take today watching the Bills is– I also thought
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  Speaker 2: they may be looking ahead to their stadium debut next week, John.
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  Speaker 2: I thought, oh, I could see them looking ahead. I
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  Speaker 2: was blown away.
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  Speaker 1: I really was.
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  Speaker 2: I sat there and I'm like, they just, they kept,
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  Speaker 2: Houston kept throwing big punches and they kept answering. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. Listen, I'm kind of rooting for them because
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  Speaker 2: I think the city deserves it. But I think that's, again,
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  Speaker 2: it's the first week. I was talking to a GM today.
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  Speaker 2: Fundamentals are lousy in the first week. You're kind of guessing.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody plays. The Texans' defense will be better. But there
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  Speaker 2: will not be another quarterback that plays like this all
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  Speaker 2: year against Houston. I would bet a significant amount of
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  Speaker 2: money nobody will look this good against Houston's defense the
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  Speaker 2: rest of the year.
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  Speaker 1: See, I came away on the Houston side of, like,
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  Speaker 1: their offense, I thought, was so putrid most of last year. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how great the Bills' defense is going
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  Speaker 1: to be, but if C.J. Stroud plays like he did
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  Speaker 1: in this game against most teams that don't have Josh Allen,
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  Speaker 1: they will just be fine. And there was an early
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  Speaker 1: moment on the Buffalo side. He went for it on
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  Speaker 1: fourth down. Joe Brady did. Kind of felt like the
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  Speaker 1: antithesis of Sean McDermott and the kind of the organizational
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  Speaker 1: credo in the organization was more conservative. It's like, guys,
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  Speaker 1: you have Josh Allen. Now they didn't even get it,
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  Speaker 1: but I went, okay, there's kind of a new sheriff
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  Speaker 1: in town. There's a new mindset in town. There's a
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  Speaker 1: new philosophical belief of around the NFL that we're not
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  Speaker 1: just going to play conservative with this guy. And it
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  Speaker 1: was the first series of the game kind of set
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  Speaker 1: the tone for the season. And I think you can
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  Speaker 1: kind of pick up on little things like that in
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  Speaker 1: the first game, just around if there's a new coach,
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  Speaker 1: if there's a new scheme, there was a nugget on
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  Speaker 1: the bears broadcast that Ben Johnson told Caleb, like you're
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  Speaker 1: a little more free to run this year. You don't,
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  Speaker 1: you don't just add lib when you need to do it.
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  Speaker 1: You've proven yourself and it showed right. And I think
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  Speaker 1: Joe Brady is like, Josh, this is, this is, this
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  Speaker 1: is your ship. You're our LeBron. You're our Curry. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's like Steve Kerr can be a little rigid, but
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  Speaker 1: guess who he's not rigid on Steph, Steph, you do you.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's part of Josh is, And this
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  Speaker 1: is like the Lamar thing. You kind of just got
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  Speaker 1: to let them be them. There was a play today
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  Speaker 1: with Lamar, like duck two guys. Like you got to
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  Speaker 1: let these, this league now is, this is not 1988
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  Speaker 1: football where these guys can get killed. It is very
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  Speaker 1: rare that these defenders all kind of hesitate. It is
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  Speaker 1: a huge advantage for these dual threat guys. And Josh's
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  Speaker 1: arm talent is just, I mean, the package he's bringing,
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  Speaker 1: there is a lot of pressure on this team. And
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  Speaker 1: I've followed Jim Leonard's career since he was a player.
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  Speaker 1: I think they will get better as time goes on.
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  Speaker 1: And this Bills team, I mean, mentally, think how many guys–
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  Speaker 1: they've been through the ringer columns like they've seen a
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  Speaker 1: lot they're not going to be scared and i like
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  Speaker 1: you said the home opener i think they had something
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  Speaker 1: to prove specifically against this team like hughes is going
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  Speaker 1: to be in the playoffs i i think we all
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  Speaker 1: feel pretty good they'll probably might see him again round
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  Speaker 1: one round two we ain't going in there getting you
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  Speaker 1: know losing 14 to 10 here we're gonna freaking let
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  Speaker 1: it fly and they were letting it fly All right.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk about probably the most impressive team today. The
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  Speaker 2: Ravens beat the Colts 41-23. Colts have a good roster.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Derrick Henry. Okay, you probably don't remember this.
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  Speaker 2: Nolan Ryan, baseball pitcher, was an all-star at 42. He
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: threw six complete games at 42 and 240 innings. That
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  Speaker 2: is Derrick Henry. I see no regression. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: how he does it. In the position in the NFL
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  Speaker 2: that everybody ages... overnight. Like everybody ages overnight. Derrick Henry
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  Speaker 2: is still a monster. 32 touchdowns last two years. Today,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it was a 32-yard touchdown run, a bully.
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  Speaker 2: Jesse Minter, to your point. So when they got, I
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  Speaker 2: said all offseason, the Ravens, I picked them to win
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  Speaker 2: their division. I think Cincinnati will double their win total.
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  Speaker 2: I said, I just respect the organization. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if Jesse will be great But my take is generally
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  Speaker 2: the hot coordinator that gets the head job, Kyle, Ben Johnson,
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  Speaker 2: Jesse Mentor, they usually work. The other group that works
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  Speaker 2: is the proven head coach, Sean Payton, Mike Frable. Mike
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  Speaker 2: McDonald was a very hot coordinator when he took the
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  Speaker 2: Seahawk job. So generally the guys we know, Jim Harbaugh,
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  Speaker 2: John Harbaugh, they work. Mike McCarthy, he'll win games in Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 2: And then the hot coordinator generally hits. So my guess
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  Speaker 2: is it's a well-run, Steve Busciotti, good front office, Lamar Jackson.
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  Speaker 2: I pick on win to the division, but I'm like
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  Speaker 2: 11 and a half win total. Jesus, that's in the AFC.
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  Speaker 2: I watched them today. I mean, they have eight yards
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  Speaker 2: of play, 500 yards. Now, I didn't, I said, I've
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  Speaker 2: seen Lamar. In fact, I looked this up. Do you
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  Speaker 2: know what Lamar Jackson's weak when he's healthiest? You know
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  Speaker 2: what his weak one is? in his career. Lamar, 16 touchdowns,
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  Speaker 2: two picks and 120 pass already. So Lamar's like the 49ers.
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  Speaker 2: In September, when he's healthy, you can't touch him. And then,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he gets dinged. Zay Flowers was a monster.
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  Speaker 2: He's hurt. We'll see where that goes. But my takeaway
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  Speaker 2: was this was the one good team in the league
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  Speaker 2: that I'm like, pump the brakes. I don't know. At
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  Speaker 2: one point, I'm sitting there watching the Colts defense. I'm like, guys,
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  Speaker 2: They're giving it to Derrick Henry. Couldn't stop them. And
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  Speaker 2: they lost Tyler Linderbaum. Remember, they lost their Pro Bowl center.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's week one. Lamar has always been a
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: great week one quarterback, but it was really impressive.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: If you told me I had to do an AP
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: top 25 for the NFL, I don't see how you
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: wouldn't put the Ravens one. I agree. The score doesn't
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: even justify what we witnessed. Kind of like the Niners, 27-7.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: It was way worse than that. This thing, though, was
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: a bludgeoning. Someone asked me the other day, how did
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: George Kittle return so fast from the Achilles? And I said...
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: There are older veterans in the NFL. I don't think
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: you understand how seriously they take this and how seriously
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Derrick Henry must take training, diet, rehab, rest and recovery.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: This is their full-time job. And that guy looks no
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: different than he did in the peak of his powers
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: with Mike Vrabel in Tennessee, whatever, six, seven years ago. Colin,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: his speed, his explosion, his power. It's one thing he's
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: so big up the middle. He's beating guys to the
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: corner on outside. These are DBs. And I went, obviously,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: like you said, Lamar's fresh. He looked fantastic. Declan Doyle,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Ben Johnson, maybe his. I'm always hesitant with these coordinators
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: that have never called plays. You just never know.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Good start for Declan. Ben Johnson's little spider webs might grow.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: But you're right. The organization, I mean, DaCosta's on the
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: sideline of the game.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: I think they just wanted to see. They get rid
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: of Harbaugh. I think it's a big moment for the
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Steelers and the Ravens. You get rid of these two
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: guys combined, almost been there 40 years. McCarthy, you kind
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: of know what you're going to get. Over time, today
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: was ugly. But like, you know, mentor, there's some pressure.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: I'm with you. I kind of thought the Colts would
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: be feisty. That was that felt like USC Fresno State.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't it wasn't even close. It is
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: the other thing to go on the road in that dome,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: the place I'm sure is loud to start. And they
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: just took the air out of it immediately. You blinked
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: and they're up 14 to six or whatever. Daniel Jones
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: coming back off the Achilles. I mean, we've got to
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: we'll have to see on that one. But, yeah, I
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: think the Ravens today physically the 190. last year was
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: like Harbaugh and Munkin, they would get away from Henry,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: just keep giving him the ball. He's built like a secretariat.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: And today, just feed him the ball, feed him the ball,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: feed him the ball. And then every once in a while,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Lamar was just very poised, made a couple miraculous plays.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: There's a Flowers touchdown. He looked like Jerry Rice in
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: his prime going over the middle and running. Listen, I
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: crushed that contract. You're going to make plays like that.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: You're going to shut up a lot of people.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Well, he didn't get hurt last year. He's a smaller
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: wide receiver. That's also the Ravens are an organization that
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: drafts well, but they've kind of missed.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Everybody does.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: For the record, everybody misses on wide receivers. Brett Veach
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: in Kansas City, great GM, missed on wide receivers. It's
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: a hard position, especially when you're a good team and
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: you're drafting end of the first round and you're like,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: all right, Xavier Worthy, he's a gadget guy, but we'll
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: take a gadget guy. I mean, what do you expect
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: to get at the end of the first round? Two
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: of the last four drafts have been weak. So you're
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: out of stars by about the 13th pick.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, I, I just.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: If Lamar is going to pass for over 300 yards
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: and Derek Henry is going to rush for 130, 140 yards,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: they will win every single game they play. They will
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: be unbeatable. And the other thing, Lamar, like watching Jalen hurts,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: you know, Lamar still is like any time. And Caleb's
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: young and in his prime and same with Josh, any moment,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: they'll just be like, I'll run. I'll take over. That's
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: the one thing, like, when I watch Jalen, like, run, bro.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you gotta run. I would say Josh and Lamar,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: I don't think they necessarily, if you asked them, would
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: they rather throw a touchdown for sure, but it's like,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: sometimes I just gotta do it, and they both just like, okay,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: and they do it. Josh is more power, Lamar's more
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: outside finesse speed, but both of them can just take
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: over with their legs.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I noticed today? The three offenses
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: that have impressed you today. Baltimore with Lamar Jackson, Chicago
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: with Caleb, Buffalo with Josh, why is that? Because offensive
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: line play sucks for the first month of the season
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: because nobody plays in the preseason. It is the hardest
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: unit to create cohesion. So the three offenses we loved
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: have the three most talented athletic quarterbacks in the league.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: The Bears, the Bills, and the Ravens look great. I mean,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Philadelphia's O-line today. The Eagles' O-line got pushed around by Washington.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Because they're a very offensive line-reliant franchise. And so if
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: you look at the teams that kind of like the
• 22:15
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• 22:18
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• 22:21
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• 22:26
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• 22:31
  Speaker 2: and Lamar, as O-lines are trying to kind of get,
• 22:34
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• 22:37
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• 25:28
  Speaker 2: the Buccaneers 33-27. Baker Mayfield did take off a lot,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: much to the chagrin of his staff. There's a delta between,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: and Baker's not a bad athlete, obviously, but there is
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: a delta between what Baker thinks he is and what
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: he is. I think he runs too much. The Bengals' defense,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: and I mean literally forced four turnovers, big hits, and
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Dexter Lawrence got a sack. The first thing that jumped
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: out to me is the Bengals ran the ball, Burrow
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: had a defense that forced turnovers, and Burrow had a
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: run game. And it's like, okay, Cincinnati, I thought it
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: was a pretty easy prediction. Cincinnati's going to be a
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: double-your-win total team, potentially. I have them in the playoffs.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: And I thought, you know, Baker kind of, you know,
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: he just signed that contract, and Mike Evans is gone,
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: so Baker's going to have to add a little. They
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: were really dependent on Bucky Irving today. It's like, Bucky Irving,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: my take was Baker was trying to sort of augment
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: the offense kind of making stuff up and it costs
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: the team.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Well he had three fumbles and he lost all three
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: of them you know and i think the problem is
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: he also had a rushing touchdown so he's like and
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: he like you said he's he's weird he's not the
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: level of the top guys athletically but he does make
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: plays with his feet the problem today is i thought
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: cincinnati's defensive line jumped off the screen the physicality that
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: they had not have because i would say one thing
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: One thing about the Bengals today, we talked about Lamar
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: and Josh and Caleb. Joe did not. I mean, he
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: wasn't bad, but he threw ahead a pick six.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: You know, their offense just looked a little out of
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: sync for having Jamar Chase and T.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Higgins.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, T. Higgins had three catches and Chase had two.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Chase had two catches for 12 yards.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Well, Burrell threw his tight ends a lot today. A lot.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Gusecki, a ton. Yep.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Dump it down to the running backs a ton. So
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: this was, if you're a Bengal fan, if you assume
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Joe's going to be back to being an elite guy,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: I think you feel pretty good about this. You know,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: because they have not been a balanced operation. They have been, well,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: if Joe doesn't throw three or four touchdowns, we lose.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: And especially if I would have said, hey, if I
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: would have told you coming into the game that the
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Bucs are going to score 27 points and Burrow's going
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: to have like a C plus B minus game for
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Burrow standards. You'd be like, oh, we'll see. But honestly,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: the Bengals were in complete control the whole game. because
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: their defense was making plays on the ball. They forced
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: these fumbles. I mean, they forced four fumbles and got
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: them all. So you would say that that won't be
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: every game, but you would say there are going to
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: be games when Burrow should be throwing three, four, five touchdowns, right?
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's easier to buy a defense. Like,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: you could go buy Dexter Lawrence, right? And you're like, okay,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: he's going to be an enforcer. It's hard to buy
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: an offense because if you do buy a quarterback, then
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: it limits the rest of your roster because it's going
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: to be really expensive. And you also, you can have
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: a great quarterback, but if you don't have the right
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: offensive whiz, like a Ben Johnson or a Shanahan, it
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: mutes the signing. It's hard to buy an offense. But
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: you can go out and buy Dexter Lawrence. You can
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: go Boye Moffay. You can go draft a second round
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Cassius Howe. And you look up and you're like, oh,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: those guys. And also defense, as you know, John, is
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: not as choreographed. Offense is hard. It's efficiency. It's timing.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: A lot of defense is blowing shit up, like just
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: being big, strong, and pushing back. And I thought Cincinnati,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know if there's any question, if you watch
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: the game on TV, Cincinnati looked bigger, faster, stronger, and
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: more violent. They were just pushing the Buccaneers around.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: I did think this was a must-win for the Bengals,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: given the way Burrow's been talking. the urgency of the
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: franchise after trading for Dexter Lawrence, how slow they've started
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: over the years.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: This game's at home. You're playing Tampa, not, you know,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: some sugar. Not, I mean, I think Tampa would be
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: okay and be fine, but this was a game that
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: they had to win. And at halftime, they were up
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: 24 to 10 and in complete control. And honestly, the
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: game wouldn't have been as close if bro doesn't throw
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: the pick six. I mean, they were in complete control
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: and he handed them seven points. So it, it felt
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: a little bit closer. I'm with you, too, like watching
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: their offense. And then you go back to Thursday watching
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Mike Evans. We all know how good he is. We've
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: seen him for health since Johnny Manziel lighting up Nick
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Saban 15 years ago. But I think sometimes when a
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: guy leaves and you see him somewhere else, you're like, God,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: he's even better than I thought. And Ibuka's not the
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: biggest guy, right? You know, Godwin had a solid game,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: but that's a big loss for a guy that they
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: have been very dependent on as a franchise with Brady
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: and Baker to have a lot of success. And I
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: do think there's going to be a little bit of a...
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: I think we got to temper some expectations because I
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: do think... I don't know where you fell on this,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: but when they gave Baker the extension, I actually gave
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: him a lot of credit personally because he said at
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: the beginning of camp, I'm not going to talk about this.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: I'm on.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: For Jason Light to feel comfortable to do that 45
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: days later, he's watching this guy just be focused, work hard. Clearly,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Baker's come a long way maturity-wise, and Jason's very comfortable
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: with it. But as a player... he's still a little reckless.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: You know, he still kind of plays like he's playing
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Texas tech on a Saturday night playing for Oklahoma. Just,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: I could do whatever I want. And, uh, you might
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: be able to get away with it in the NFC.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure the NFC South right now, Colin, is
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: 0-4 because the Bucs lost, Saints lost, the Panthers lost.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: They all lost. So you're not, as long as you
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: win a couple games a month in the South, I
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: think you'll just hold serve. But the Mike Evans thing
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: as the season goes on, I mean, Godwin's been banged
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: up a lot in his career, is definitely something to
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: keep an eye on. And if you're a Bengal fan,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: you're like, Well, Jamar Chase and Tee Higgins are going
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: to have games where they combine for four touchdowns and
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: 300 yards because they've done it before. And they were basically,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, non-factors today. I mean, Jamar Chase was definitely
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: a non-factor, which is pretty rare.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Okay, our upset of the day. The Cardinals, Arizona goes
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: to L.A., thumps the Chargers 26-14. Jesse Minter....
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Clearly missed.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Arizona had 400 yards of offense, passed for almost 300
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: yards with Jacoby Brissett. Excellent on third down. Dominated time
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: of possession, almost 38 minutes. And the Chargers had fewer
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: total yards than the Browns, Jets, and Tyler Shuck. A
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: shocking game. The Chargers' special teams were bad. They had
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: a punt blocked. I mean, this is, again, when Ben Johnson...
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: left the Lions, the Lions offense, despite all the talent,
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: wasn't the same. So suddenly Jesse Minter leaves the Chargers
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: defense and Arizona lights it up for almost 400 yards,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: 23 first downs, didn't lose a fumble, didn't throw an interception.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: It could have been worse. They were only two for
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: five in the red zone. Um, I, I think you
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: got to look at this, the time of possession. If
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: you watch that game jumped off the charts, the chargers
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: could not, they just, they were really off. And we
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: talked a lot about Mike McDaniel, but the coordinator, we
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: didn't talk about much with the chargers was the, uh,
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: exit of Jesse mentor and the chargers were the most disappointing.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: By the way, both LA teams stunk, uh, in week one,
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: what did you make of the chargers loss?
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Well, I think we talked about this with the Ravens,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: and I would include the Bengals. The score does not
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: reflect what I witnessed. The Cardinals kicked their ass. That
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: was not a close game. I was texting with Daniel Jeremiah,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: who's their radio guy. I don't love O'Marion Hampton. I
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: don't think there's that much there. I know they think
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: he's a big physical guy. I mean, he had 12
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: carries for 40 yards. I see nothing special for a
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: first-round back. Jeremiah Love popped right off the screen making
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: a couple plays. And I just think you kind of
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: know it with a running back when you see he's
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: been in the league now. It's not like this is
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: the first game of his career. And then the rest
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: of their offensive weapons, the Cardinals have better offensive weapons.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, Trey McBride's one of the best tight ends
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: in the league. Jacoby Bursette, they lost a lot of
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: games down the stretch, but remember, they benched Kyler Murray
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: for him.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Dude, he was 27- of.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: 37 today for almost he's a good player yes he's
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: a good player Trey McBride's a good player Mike Wilson
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: just got an extension he's.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: A good player Harrison Kendrick Bourne Kendrick Bourne out of
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: nowhere and eight catches for 75 yards but the thing
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: that's pretty eye-opening is like you're pretty dependent on Ladd
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: McConkie who gets KO'd out of this game when he
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: gets blasted in the side David Najoku. I mean, so
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: you're running back who drafted in the first round to
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: me is just kind of meh. And you're, you know,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: your best wide receiver by far is a slot guy.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: So it's not exactly just Jefferson or Jamar Chase can
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: take over a game. I just look at their offensive weapons. Uh,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: what's his name? Justin Herbert had an awful interception today,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: just throwing the ball down the middle of the field.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: So you have an awful interception. You have a punt
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: block basically on what the five yard line. So you just,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, that was really, they got, they got honestly
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: got lucky. Their guy fell on it, or that typically
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: is like a scoop at score right there by.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: The goal line.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: 26-14, that game felt to me, Colin, more like 35-7.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: They strangled him out from the jump. Jacoby Bursette has
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: been just an above-average quarterback now for the 10-plus games
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: he started last year. Today, he was just solid.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he feels like if you took the interceptions out
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: of Geno Smith, you'd have a big, strong guy who
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: can move a little bit, who's got a bunch of
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: NFL starts. Gino just throws too many damn picks, but
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Jacoby Brissett, you don't get, he's got better decision-making skills.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Like he makes better decisions. And I like to your point,
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Arizona's got an offensive coach now and they've got, they
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: got players.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, I mean, the other thing was Brissette to
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: knock on his athleticism. I saw today a couple of
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: times he kept plays alive. Like he's not I wouldn't
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: say he's gone for Stafford. He's not he's not Lamar
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Jackson or anything, but he he's probably slightly above you
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: right around average. He can at least keep a play alive.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: And he did a couple of times today.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: OK, so I picked the Lions to win their division
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: and the Saints to win theirs. But I did think
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: the Lions at home, Tyler Shuck on the road. Detroit's
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: a very good home team. A lot of underdogs covered today.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: The Lions in overtime beat the Saints 31-30. But I
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: thought the story of the day was Tyler Shuck, who
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: was awful in the first half, but he has a
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: number one receiver with Chris Olave. I thought he had
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: a great overtime drive. He can do a little sidearm.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: I was good with New Orleans going for two for
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: the win in overtime. My take was the Lions defense
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: was gassed. And I'll be honest with you, Peyton Manning
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: said this one time, not all analytics are the same.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Like if your team is playing confidently, you're moving the ball,
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: you're on the road, you can, you don't want to,
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: you don't, listen, you're on the road, get out of
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: there with a win. I'm always like pro road team
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: that's an underdog going for the win. If you're home,
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: you're a favorite, like the Seahawks against New England, you're like,
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: we got a better roster, we're at home, let's go
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: to overtime, we'll win. I had no problem. The game's
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: in overtime. Saints are like, we're going to go for two.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: And I also think it sends a message in week one,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: which is, guys, it's not a divisional game. We're going
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: to be aggressive. I mean, that's what Dan Campbell did
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: when he took the Lions over. I was impressed with
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: the Saints. I thought their line play, I mean, Jameer Gibbs, listen,
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: the Lions had a 10-play overtime drive. So, I mean,
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: by that point, the Saints were a little gassed. But
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: my take in this game was, The Saints are going
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: to win their division. I really believe Tyler Shuck. I
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: think they found their guy.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: This game reminded me a lot of Ohio State, Texas.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: It's 21-0. Shuck looked unplayable. I was like, I don't
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: know my Saints pick here. And then the second half
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: in overtime, he was... He had a lot of signs
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: of the guy that we saw last year that people
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: didn't know quite what to do with. But I'm with you.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: I thought the Saints showed a lot of moxie, a
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: lot of heart. I mean, Chuck was slinging that thing around.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Alave's a really good player. They're tight end, Juwan Johnson,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: I think is one of the more underrated players in
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: the NFL. He is number 83 on the Saints, is
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: a stud. I love that guy. And, you know, Kamara
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: didn't play today. He's banged up. If he comes back,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: you go with ETN, like, They got some firepower on offense.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: The concerning part to me about the Lions is twofold.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Gibbs might lead the league in touches this year. I mean,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: they felt like they were giving the ball to him
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: every time. Their secondary stinks. I mean, they are defensively,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: it is just guys wide open, rotating guys you've never
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: heard of. If Aiden Hutchinson isn't getting close to the quarterback,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: you have no confidence that they can cover a soul.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: And in that division with some of the wide receivers
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: they have to play against the Bears offense, that to
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: me is a major, major concern. And this goes back
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: to the Stafford thing. You just don't watch football, high-level
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: football on Saturday or Sunday, beside Goff and Stafford, where
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: guys can't move at all. I didn't know anything about
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: this Oklahoma State quarterback. But as the game went on,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: I'm like, this guy can kind of move. I need
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: my guy to have some– Jacoby Brissett can get out
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: of something. When you can't move at all, it's hard
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: to playmake, right? Because not everything is going to be like, oh, St.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Brown's wide open. In fairness to Goff– Jamison Williams had
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: a couple of bad drops. They were definitely a little
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: off offensively. And Gibbs is I mean, Gibbs is a star.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, they were treating that guy like, you know,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: prime insert Hall of Famer. He had twenty nine carries
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: for one hundred fifty six yards. I would have guessed
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: before I looked at the box score, he had 40 touches,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: 40 carries. I mean, they feed him. So can he last?
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: He's never been the lead dog. He's always had, you know,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: David Montgomery right there with him. But Jamison Williams, they
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: paid him. He has, I mean, he dropped multiple balls.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: He's not the most reliable guy. You always feel good
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: about St.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: Brown.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Like, I feel good about Goff. But in some of
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: these situations against some of these teams, when you can't move,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: if the offensive play call is not perfect– I mean,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan, best offensive coordinator in the league, right? Sometimes
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: it doesn't work. Pretty bails them out. Ben Johnson. It
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: looks like Kyle Shanahan, 2.0. Caleb, like do some crazy moves,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: bail them out. Goff just physically is incapable of that.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: And you just have drives where that can show. And
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: then he'll, you know, when they're, when they're blocking for him,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: he is as good as it gets just sitting in
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: the pocket and delivering a ball accurately and But their defense,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: which I would say has kind of been the defining
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: downfall of this franchise over the course of the last
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: four or five years. They drafted Terryon Arnold. They have
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: to cut him. Brian Branch, you know, tears Achilles last year.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: They just need Aiden Hutchinson to basically be Reggie White
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: for them to have a shot.
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  Speaker 2: the app today. All right. Underdogs did very well. I
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: took some big favorites. Now my Jags beat the Browns
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: 34 to 10, but other than that led 31, nothing.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: The Eagles, holding on for dear life, beat the Commanders 24-22.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: The Eagles' offense had three touchdowns, but four three-and-outs. Nick
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Cerione has never lost an opener. He's 6-0. They lost
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: time of possession. At one point, their first eight possessions,
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: they six ended in punts. Three were three-and-outs. So, now,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: without A.J. Brown, Jalen Hurts didn't mix it up more.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: First couple of drives, he threw to five different receivers.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: I like that. D'Antonio... Don Wicks, the wide receiver.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Don Terry Wicks. Don Terry Wicks.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Don Terry Wicks. I thought Wicks had a presence. Like, okay,
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: he's going to matter. Makai Lemon, the rookie, had a
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: bad camp. We'll see where that goes. I will say
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: this for Washington. They ran off Cliff Kingsbury. Hasn't been
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: as good since. Their line, again, the Eagles' old line,
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: best or second best in the league, did not perform well.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: But I got to tell you, you know, we keep,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: We keep giving Jalen Hurts, let's get rid of this coordinator.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: Let's get rid of A.J. Brown. Let's upgrade at running back.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Let's draft another wide receiver. It's not that they only
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: scored 24 points. It's all the three and outs. John,
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: you can't go three and out four times against the
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: commander's defense. It's just not that kind of defense. And,
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: you know, Sirianni's not known as a great game play
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: designer or play caller. So they're very coordinator dependent, but
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: it's a little bit like last year. It's when they're offensively,
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: they'll go back to back to back drives. They won't
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: have a first down. Like the talent's too good. And
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: the quarterback, frankly, is too athletic for that to be
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: the case. I don't know where you go with Philadelphia.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, they've moved off from Super Bowl winning coaches.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: They moved off from a Super Bowl winning quarterback in
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Nick Foles. I think with Hurts, I think everybody's, like,
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: honest now about Hurts. Like, there are things we like
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: about Jalen. Last two years in the NFL, I don't
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: think any team, except maybe the Jets, has this many
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: three and outs. It's just inexplicable.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: Well, the crazy part is early in that game, he
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: makes a couple beautiful passes. Which is the longest pass
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: catch of his career. Hits Goddard in the back of
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: the end zone. And you're like, God, when the ball
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: comes out of his hand on a deeper route, it
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: does look beautiful. And then they'll be up like 14-3
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: and they'll have a stretch. Punt, five plays. Punt, three plays. Punt,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: three plays. Punt, three plays. Field goal, seven plays. It's
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: just like, what? And I think this gets back to
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: when they can't run the ball. Saquon had a 40-yard run, which,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: you know, you're like, okay, Saquon last year was not
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: very explosive. You remove that one run, he had 14
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: carries for 40 yards. And they were talking about in
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: the broadcast, he's getting hit behind the line of scrimmage.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Every time he does, he averages less than a yard
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: of carry. Their offensive line a couple years ago when
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: he ran for what felt like 5,000 yards, we're just opening,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: we're splitting things like the Red Sea. And now you're
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: watching Saquon. It's much more difficult for him to find some,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: you know, running lanes, some space, some daylight. And to me,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Jalen hurts, especially with this offense with Sean Mannion coming
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: more of a Kyle, like they want to run the
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: outside zone, run the ball and then bootleg Jalen. But
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: if you're not a running or, you know, you're there,
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: don't have to honor the run or you're not being successful.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: It doesn't really work. So 15 for 83 doesn't look bad,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: but he had one run that was 40 yards. Like
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: That's the Derrick. You watch Derrick Henry today. You're just
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: or the Bears. You have to put so many people
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: down there. It opens up the passing game and then
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: you get lit up like a Christmas tree. And this
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: was the issue last year. I know it's easy. Like
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: this coordinator was the dumbest guy in the history of America.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: But I think sometimes your offensive line, you know, Lane
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: Johnson's really old now. Their interior offensive line is just
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: not as good. Kelsey retires. It's kind of a drop off.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: over just attrition, maybe guys age a little bit. It's football.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Most guys hit a point where their trajectory either plateaus
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: or starts going the other way, but you've paid guys,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: you can't cut them for dead caps, so they're just
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: kind of your starters. In a perfect world, you'd probably
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: replace them or think about maneuvering off of them, but
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: you're kind of stuck. They're just not as dominant up
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: front as they once were. I love Sonny Stiles coming
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: out in the draft. He made a couple plays today. Oh,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: my God. He hit Saquon on a pass pro where
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Saquon flew back. And Saquon is a guy that what?
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: a thousand pounds. It's not like he's, you know, physically
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: just some tiny little running back. He had a couple
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: other tackles. You want to, if you're a commander fan,
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: that was a bright spot. Their roster. I think if
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: you're an Eagle fan, you go, I don't think Washington,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at their roster. Like what, what's going on here?
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: We should be way better than them. The Eagles defense
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: is good. I mean, they're secondary with Dejean Mitchell, Fangio's,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: The bond, their defensive line is just stout. Their defense
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: is going to be fine. It's going to come down
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: to when these bigger games against the better teams, that
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: stretch of punts and three and outs and five play drives.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: It did feel a little repetitive from last year. It's
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: like new scheme, new guys. Like, well, I think that's
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: kind of Jalen. It's just, he just, he just feels
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: the same. Now, he hit a couple more big plays
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: than a lot of stretches of last year today, which
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: I think is good. And, like, you know, Lemon, in theory,
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: should become more involved as time goes, young player. But
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: I think for this offense to take a step, they're
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: going to have to be a team that runs the ball.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: You're not going to be able to– Saquon's going to
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: have to have some games, maybe not those 200-yard games,
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: but can he have more 130-yard games where he can
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: just lean on them?
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Or in a game that will get talked about almost
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: more than any, And as we started this, the game
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: wasn't quite over. Vikings 39, Packers 22. Minnesota scores three
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: touchdowns in two minutes and 42 seconds. The Packers, three
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: straight losses when leading by 10 in the fourth quarter. Remember,
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: they lost to the Bears in the playoffs. Over 400 yards.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: This has been the knock on Matt LaFleur, is that
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: his teams start very well. Smart teams take leads. Tough
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: teams finish them. So what's really concerning about this is
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: that Kyler Murray gets dinged. You know, he'll be in
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: concussion protocol and gets hurt early in the game. That's
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: part and partial to Kyler is a smaller player. He
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: doesn't like physical contact. He gets injured. So they bring
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: in Carson Wentz. And Carson is what he is. He
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: misses easy throws. He misses on laps. But he's big.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: He's strong. He's got a good arm. Well, Carson Wentz
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: comes in against the Vikings. Only had to throw it
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: 19 times. Completed 12 for three touchdowns, no picks, and
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: 123 passer rating. So this goes to what we've said
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: about the Packers. Jeff Halfley leaves. Micah Parsons, not available.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: Rashawn Gary, now with the Cowboys. So the knock on
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: this franchise has been they get leads. They're pretty. It's
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: a little Lincoln Riley. You know, they're well coached offensively.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: They're clever. They take leads. They're a bad fourth quarter team.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: They do not now. Josh Jacobs to be announced. We
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: don't know what's going to go on.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: Doesn't look good.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: Does not look good. So this one to me. I mean, listen,
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: you're going to your back up quarterback. and you house
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: them scoring three touchdowns in two and a half minutes.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: I think I said it before the season started. I
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: said it about two weeks ago. Matt LaFleur is on
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: the quietest, coolest hot seat to start a season, I
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: can remember. He's not in the hot seat, but it's percolating.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: And I'm sorry, now that Chicago drops 59, The Vikings
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: just dropped 39. And you know the Lions have firepower.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's no other conclusion after watching this weekend
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: that Green Bay looks like a fourth-place team if you
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: can't beat a backup in Carson Wentz.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: I think the major issue today was they had him
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: against the ropes. They should have done what Baltimore did
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: and been up instead of 19-10. The score should have
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: been 28-10 or 31-10. Collin, they were 3-12 on third down.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: Awful.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: The Vikings were 8-15, so better than 50%. And obviously
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: they got 0-2 on fourth down. They were not good
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: in big spots. And Jordan Love was making crazy big plays.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: They were hitting huge plays on offense. Couldn't convert them
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: into touchdowns. You know, we hop on, it's like 23-22.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: You look up, they've scored back. It looks like they
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: got blown out. It looked like they got blown out
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: where the majority of the game I watched, the Packers
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: were in full control. Jordan loves making plays. He's looking
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: like Aaron Rodgers' light. And you lose by multiple touchdowns,
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: like you said, against Carson Wentz, which, you know, if
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: you were told Vikings fans two months ago, they would
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: have been like, well, JG doesn't win the job. He'll
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: be the backup. He's not even active. He's inactive today.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: And Carson Wentz comes in. You know why? Because McCown
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: and Kevin O'Connell just trust this guy. And they're not
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: even asking him to do that much. But he hit
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson on a deep bomb, which was a beautiful,
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: beautiful pass. Beautiful catch. And the Vikings, they're a well-coached team.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, Flores is blitzing, blitzing. I keep thinking like, Brian,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: this is not really working out right now with your
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: backup quarterback in, but it pays off at the end.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: You know, Jordan Love throws a pick late. What a
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: win by Minnesota. I'm on a text chain with a
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: Minnesota fan. He was ready to jump off a bridge
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: after the first half, Colin. He thought the season, because
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: I kind of believe this too. It felt like the
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: Viking season was over almost before it started. Like their
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: season was over. I was starting thinking like, are they
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: going to be drafted in the top five? And now
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: that you win 39-22, you start thinking, like, can we
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: just be a pretty– can we get nine, ten wins?
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: So you lose Wicks. You move off Romeo Dobbs. Reed
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: did not play a big part. I don't know how
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: many catches he– I ask. I'm going to look at Reed,
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: how many catches he had.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: He had three catches for 20 yards. I mean, Christian
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Watson carried the day for them today.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Christian Watson. But, again, he's not healthy much. I thought
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: Matthew Golden from Texas had an– he's a really spectacular– player.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: He's going to be a really, really good player. But
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: now you don't have Josh Jacobs, Christian Watson. Okay, Dobbs
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: is gone. Wicks is gone. Josh Jacobs probably not going
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: to play. Tucker Kraft is back and Golden's there. So
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: those are your two stars. You know, it's just interesting.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: I feel like with Matt LaFleur is that You know, he, McVay,
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: and Shanahan work together. Shanahan's the genius schematically. McVay's the
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl guy culture builder. If you told me, what
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: is Matt LaFleur absolutely great at? I don't know the answer.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: That is not to say he's not good at a
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: lot of things. He's not a culture builder. He's not rah-rah.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: He doesn't have McVeigh's personality or gravitas or presence. He
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: just doesn't. He's more quiet. He doesn't have Shanahan, and
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: maybe nobody does. He doesn't have Shanahan's play design and
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: play calling. He doesn't. He's not Ben Johnson in terms
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: of intensity. I mean, Ben, Chicago's feisty when you go
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: to their practices. Up-tempo, intense, loud. celebratory. They play like
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: a college team. Green Bay is under control. They're kind
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: of cerebral. They're smart. But there is something to say
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: in this league. San Francisco, they've got an attitude. I mean,
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: they really have an attitude. And I thought Halfley and
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: Micah brought a little bit of that. Brought a little toughness,
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: a little reckless, I would say, John. Almost like Seattle.
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: Seattle gets penalized a lot. Seattle is at times a
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: reckless team. But they play with an attitude. Green Bay
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: comes off. I've said this. It's like USC. I know
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: the coach is good. But sometimes, you know, football, intimidation matters.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: You're never intimidated. Micah brought that. Hathley brought a little
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: bit of that. I think this loss is going to linger. Like,
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: you've got to bounce back quickly from this if you're
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: LeFleur and Green Bay.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: Well, looking at their schedule, they play at the Jets
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: next week, who actually could be a little bit better.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, they have a little stretch here. The Falcons
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: might not be any good, but that's a Thursday night game.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: So they better win that Jets game because then they
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: got a Thursday night game against the Falcons. Then they
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: got a stretch at the Buccaneers, the Bears, the Cowboys,
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: the Lions. This thing without Micah Parsons, you have all
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: these guys that have these major injuries. that were somehow
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: able to make it back for week one and look
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: pretty normal physically. And Micah, they're like, yeah, sometime in October, hopefully.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: And you're just like, because today they're up 22 to 10,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: late in the third quarter. They trade the house, which
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: they never do. I mean, they are the opposite of
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: the LA Rams when it comes to doing moves like that. Historically,
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: they got crushed and criticized for never doing those type
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: things when they had Rodgers in this prime. And that
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: guy's just on the sideline and street close. Nothing you
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: can do about injuries. But to me, like he's the
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: type guy that would take over the game and he's
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: nowhere to be found for who knows how long, which
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: I didn't believe in this team this year. Just too
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: many question marks when their best player, if he's not
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: ready and you don't even, it'd be one thing. It's like, well,
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: he might not be ready week one, but we're not
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: going to put him on IR because maybe he'll be
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: ready by week two or three. And we'll just have
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: him inactive the first game or two. But the way
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: they did it, he clearly wasn't even close to being
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: ready for week one. So now I'm just going to
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: be like, oh, he'll be full go by mid-October?
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: John, they haven't won a game without Micah since last year.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: He is their closer. That's why they brought him in.
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: They're like, we lead, we can't finish. He is their
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: Mariano Rivera. He is their closer. They haven't won a
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: game since he got hurt.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: The other thing on the Packers is this is not
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: a franchise that's won– you know, 13 games, three of
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: the last four years. Look at their records. A lot
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: of nine win seasons. This is a team that was
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: actually much closer to 500 than they have been to
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: 12 and 13 wins. Now you could be like, well,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: last year they looked like they were headed toward 13 wins. Yeah,
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: they were. Until they got all these injuries and some
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: of those still linger. And Josh Jacobs, the drop off
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: between Josh Jacobs, they gave him a big contract and
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: let Aaron Jones go for a reason. He's a big
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: time player. I mean, it's so you start getting Marshawn
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Lloyd and Chris Brooks, like the league that was reported
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: this morning. They are doing everything to get this video.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: And if they get that video, it doesn't look good.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs is never going to play in the NFL again.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: So you can just, so he's just gone probably forever.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: And Micah is just one of the biggest question marks
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: currently in the NFL right there with Miles Garrett. Now
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: you still don't know what you're going to get this year.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: And Josh Jacobs is a physical presence again. LeFleur doesn't
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: create that. LeFleur's offenses are pretty. Okay, now Josh Jacobs
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: is out. Okay, he's a physical presence. Oh, Micah, your
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: physical closer's out. So it's like, okay, guys, those are
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: two of your most kind of physical people. They're gone.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: So you have a team that, I mean, I.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: Can't believe they lost 39-22. I think that is the
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: most shocking score of the day. Shocking score the weekend
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: beside Ohio State and Texas, given how the game looked.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: I can't believe that's how it played out. That is,
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: you were on this when I was down doing your
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: show about the quiet hot seat. That is a jolting loss.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: sometimes you have jolting losses like it's a jolting loss
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: for ryan day but it's like i won the natty
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: two years ago we're gonna win 10 games this year
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: everything's gonna be okay this is could this season could
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: we be seven and ten Because Jordan Love threw for
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: 387 yards. They were making big– well, Jordan Love actually
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: is regressing. No, he's making big plays.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: It's not him. He ain't your problem. No. So that's
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: the most jolting loss. You could say the Chargers, but, like,
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: let's face it. The Chargers brand, they fly under the radar. Like,
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: they ain't leading the radio tomorrow in L.A. In the Midwest,
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: the Packers– even bears radio will be chiming in on
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: the path. Like it's a big deal. I mean, this
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: franchise kind of gets derailed.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: And it's a real big deal because Chicago now is
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: the talk of the league. So it's like, that stings.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: It's always been little Chicago pokes, big, like pokes, the
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: big bears in the ribs. When the little guy gets
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: trumped by the big guy, that stings. That gets, it's, it's, it,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: Tomorrow in Green Bay is going to sound like Philadelphia radio. Okay,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: Texas 24. Let's talk college. Ohio State 23. Buckeyes drop
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: to six. Kind of ridiculous. Texas moves to number one.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: My take was after Michigan beat Oklahoma, Texas and the
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: SEC needed the win. I think both you and I
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: believed it was bigger for Texas. Both teams have tough schedules.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: I thought the first half, Arthur Smith worked Will Muschamp.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: I thought the Buckeyes' first half game plan was, you know, listen,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: Ohio State's gone to these NFL coaches, Matt Patricia, Chip Kelly,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: Arthur Smith. It's worked. And I thought Ohio State's first
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: half game plan was outstanding. They got conservative, especially in
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. Here's where I'll defend Ohio State. John,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: these are 21-year-old kids. It is very difficult for 21-year-old
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: kids with limited practice time, with no preseason and no
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: joint scrimmages, to go into that environment early in the
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: season and play four great quarters. Ohio State was almost
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: flawless in the first half. That is a big ask.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: I don't think Julian Sands is a Sunday player. I don't.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: I think he's a good college quarterback. That game, Ohio State, listen,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: they lost. Was it a fourth down at the goal line?
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: They almost won. To me, I don't think anything less
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: of Ohio State. I was shockingly, the Longhorns' defensive game
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: plan in the first half, kind of letting Jeremiah Smith
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: run free, made no sense to me. I thought that
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: was just unexplainable. I didn't get it. But my take
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: is college football needs more games like this. Georgia won 70-20.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: Notre Dame won 52-0. Indiana won 55-0. Miami won 77-7.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: So I'm not going to punish the loser of Texas-Ohio
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: State when it ends on the goal line and it's 24-23.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: To me, I thought Ohio State you know, they got conservative.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: College teams do this. You lead, you're on the road,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: you know, you've played well, you maybe don't trust, because
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: Texas in the second half started, kind of got bullied
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: Ohio State a little bit, started pushing them around, and
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: Ryan Day's thinking, I don't want to put Julian Sand
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: in a bad spot here, so I kind of understand it,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: but I don't think anything less of Ohio State.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: These two teams have played a bunch over the course
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: of the last several years, and all the games have
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: been close. Yard-wise, score-wise, One big difference half to half,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: Arch was horrendous in the first half. And in the
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: second half, he hit a lot of the passes, especially
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: down the stretch in the fourth quarter. There were guys,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's not his fault that he throws the
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: bomb to Coleman. The guy drops it, it bounces off
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: of him, and it's an interception. Well, Wingo in the
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: end zone. Hit him in the hands. But there were
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: also plays over the middle of the field in the
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: second and third quarter with guys streaking right over, and
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: he's kind of airmailing them. It looked like J.J. McCarthy.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: And I went, I want to root for this guy, but, man,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: he just doesn't look like a good player. And then
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he had nothing to lose. They're
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: down big. Because, Colin, it was 23-and-a-half, but I thought
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: it felt like 40-to-3.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: At half, I was with friends. I'm like, is Sark
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: going to be in trouble?
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: I thought that.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: Sunday morning, is he getting called by boosters? I thought
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: they were going to lose. I thought Ohio State was
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: going to drop 40. I was like, this is embarrassing.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: Sark's in trouble. But again, road teams, you can't do
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: four great quarters on the road in that Texas environment
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: with Texas talent. Sark may not be your favorite coach,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: but I remember when Sark was at Washington and USC,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: he tended to be a pretty good third quarter coach.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: He's pretty good about throwing the play sheet out and
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: starting over. He's not He's not Shanahan tied to the
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: play sheet. He'll blow it up, rip it up, and
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: start over. And so Sark's always been a pretty good
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: third quarter, let's start again, we got outplayed.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know Sark personally, but I'll give him
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: credit this offseason on this. You know, Lane's nuts in
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: that the pregame or the halftime interview, like Lane's, his
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: dad was a defensive coach. His brother's a defensive coach.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: Lane's a little tougher than I think he looks, just
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: in terms of the way he treats his players. Sark's
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: an offensive kind of pretty boy. But he brought in
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: Will Muschamp, who is psychotic. I mean, that guy has
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: looked like something is wrong with him on the sideline
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: for 20 years. And in the second half, they scored
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: three points, Ohio State did. Will Muschamp did a great
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: job in the second. I don't think Ohio State gets
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: to Jeremiah Smith enough. He had eight catches. I would
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: throw him the ball. Remember Mike Tice used to say,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: we're going to throw it to Randy Moss like every
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: other play, every three plays. It was something he said
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: in like 1999. I would treat Jeremiah Smith like I
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: would throw the ball up to him every other play.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: He feels like an unstoppable force. Eight catches, 164. To me,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: that number should have been like 14 for 300. I mean,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: and I think it gets back to Arch, who– you know,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: it's not his fault that he has that last name.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: His dad is not Eli or Peyton, it's Cooper.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: But he's treated like he's- He presses, you can see it.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: And I think, you know, he's, I don't know if
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: he's the most natural quarterback. You know, you watch Mateer,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: there is just something to a feel for an accurate ball.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: We can knock Jared Goff's He's a very natural thrower
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: to place it in the guy's hand. You know, Purdy, right?
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: Very natural thrower to place it. You watch Arch. He's got,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: at times, like a little bit of J.J. McCarthy. Like,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: you got to throw some layups. John Mateer was only
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: throwing 100-mile-an-hour fastballs. Not every play. The number one thing
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: to play quarterback is you got to be an accurate passer.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: Brady was talking about that today. It's not always about
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: the strongest arm. Some balls just need to hit the
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: guy in the hand where he can catch it is
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: the most important thing. And I felt like, I don't know,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: he just had absolutely nothing to lose because they were
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: going to get embarrassed. They have the most expensive roster
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: from everything I've been told, Texas. I thought if they
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: were to got blown out when it was halftime, I'm like,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: because you look at their schedule, you're like, well, they're
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: probably not going to make the playoffs. This is how
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: they're going to look. Like, Sark, you're just not going
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: to survive when people are stroking these checks. And then
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: all the videos coming out, you see him and his
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: wife in the box. That's the biggest win of his
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: career by a country mile. And the one thing I
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: will say, I'm not the biggest Ryan Day guy. When
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: Ohio State loses a football game, it is stunning. How
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: many other teams, pro or college, you are stunned when
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: Ohio State loses. I don't think you can say that
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: about any other, not even Georgia, not the Ravens, not
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: the Bills, not the Chiefs. It is stunning. That win,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: that felt like an exorcism of demons for a program,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: but specifically Arch and Sark. Now, they have a lot
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: of other good opponents. Arch needs to play better. He
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: needs to take that fourth quarter momentum if they're going
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: to go 11-1.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: But I also, Wingo dropped the touchdown pass. The other guy,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: ball pops up and Ohio State picks it. So the
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: Arch's line would have another touchdown pass and one less interception.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: But I do think the point is fair. He's pressing.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: You can see he's You know, quarterback, you have to
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: simultaneously be academic and smart, but not overthink it. It's
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: really weird. Like, it's one of those things like, it's
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: like being a fighter pilot. You have to be so
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: focused and so dialed in to your protocol, but sometimes
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: it's just intuition. It's just feeling it. Like, it's like, what? What?
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: Quarterback's the same thing. Like, got to know the play.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: Got to know the audibles. You got to know the checks.
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  Speaker 2: You got to know where everybody's at. You've got to
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  Speaker 2: be totally dialed in. It's almost an academic position. But
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  Speaker 2: then go let her rip and just play naturally. And
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  Speaker 2: I think Arch sometimes lets... A-Rod used to do this
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  Speaker 2: as a hitter. He'd go into these slumps. Derek Jeter
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  Speaker 2: one time said, somebody asked him, what are you thinking
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  Speaker 2: right now? He had one of the rare slumps in
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: his career. And he goes, I just want to go
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  Speaker 2: hit it hard. Just all I want to go. And
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  Speaker 2: sometimes with Arch Manning, I feel like... And they caught
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: him on the sidelines saying, I'm just... He said something about,
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  Speaker 2: I just got to stop worrying about it or I
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  Speaker 2: just can't care this much. I think there's a family pressure,
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  Speaker 2: a name pressure, a Texas pressure, a money pressure. And
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  Speaker 2: I think he presses. And I so the talent's there.
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  Speaker 2: But I think it's I think I said this a
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  Speaker 2: few years ago. Oregon was going to beat Ohio State
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  Speaker 2: at Autzen. Ohio State would beat them later in the year.
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  Speaker 2: I think Ohio State, I predicted that Texas would win
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: close against Ohio State. Ohio State will beat Texas in
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  Speaker 2: the playoff. And I feel that today. I feel Ohio
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  Speaker 2: State's the better team. Texas won the game. But I
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: feel like I come out of that game and I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I think I like Ohio State.
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  Speaker 1: I will say this, though, about Texas. If Arch plays well,
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  Speaker 1: they have the horses. They are every bit Ohio State's equal.
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  Speaker 1: He's got more with his legs to run around. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not the biggest saying guy, but they have so much
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  Speaker 1: firepower around saying that if he just plays game manager,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: they can win. Do you think there's more pressure? You
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: use A-Rod comparing to Arch Manning. You know, there's always
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: been pressure if you played at Duke or North Carolina
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: basketball or Florida football or whatever. But now when you
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: factor in the NIL, social media, he used to build
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: like Caleb by the time he was 30 years old.
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  Speaker 1: But he already won the Heisman or these guys that
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: win the Heisman Young, Johnny Manziel. This guy's never even
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: had any success, you know, but because of his name,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: because everyone knows how much money his family has. He's
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: personally making this brand that he's at. I think you
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: feel it in college. I think you see Oregon imploding.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: You know, there's a pressure there. They've had excellent teams.
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  Speaker 1: They've never had every single person picking them to win
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: the national championship. Millionaires all over their roster. You know,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: you feel it in the way they play. There's like
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: a tension.
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  Speaker 2: I think this is.
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  Speaker 1: Underwood finally let loose a little bit yesterday. Like, run around, bro.
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  Speaker 1: You're a great athlete. Kyle Whittingham, there's a pressure on
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: these guys, which... I think it's very, very hard for
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  Speaker 1: those people like me that have been watching college football
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  Speaker 1: my whole life. It has changed dramatically these last couple
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: of years with the money aspect, the social media aspect.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: But the money thing is like if I don't perform,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: they will just get. I know I'm getting rich personally,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: but I will just get replay. I'll just get thrown away.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: Like that's how you used to. You couldn't cut a
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: player in college. No one got cut. Maybe you got
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: benched or whatever. You will get cut.
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  Speaker 2: And everybody knows they're not only getting paid. but the
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: quarterback's making $ 3 to $ 4 million. He's the second highest
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: paid guy on the staff to the head coach. He
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: makes what the school president does. So I always said,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: that's the downside. You're going to have to pay taxes.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: You're going to create envy. And we're going to criticize
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: you now a little bit more like a pro player.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: Like it's one thing. I was always like hands off
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: for college guys. Now it's like, no, no. Once you're
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: out of college going pro, then I can look back
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: at your college and criticize you. Now you're going to
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: be a pro. But in college, you don't want to
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: beat up a guy. Well, with Arch Manning, the name,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: the money, the Texas, the talent, not that we beat
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: him up, but it's fair game now. And guys, you
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: can trade the Broncos to beat the Chiefs at 44%
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: on polymarket. I like Denver in that one. Left tackle
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: for the Chiefs. They're going to go with an undrafted rookie.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: I like Denver. I did not have a great day.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: I went with some favorites. The Rams got beat up.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: Philadelphia escaped. The Cardinals got beat. The Packers laid an
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: egg in the last seven minutes of the game. So,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: Pauly Market, trade the Broncos to beat Kansas City at 44%.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: John Middlecoff, three and out. All right. Little hour plus, buddy.
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  Speaker 2: Good talking to you.
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  Speaker 1: See you, buddy.
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