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Jaguars DOMINATE Ravens on TNF! Trevor Lawrence vs Derrick Henry, NFL Week 9 Predictions & College Football Week 10 Preview · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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  Speaker 1: The Volume. What is going on, my people? How are
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  Speaker 1: we doing? Hopefully everyone's doing well. I'm John Middlecoff. This
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  Speaker 1: is the Three and Out Podcast. And just witnessed Trevor
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  Speaker 1: Lawrence and the Jacksonville Jags, led by Liam Cohen. ruin
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  Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens at home. They are a team that
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  Speaker 1: feels like they're living off their past a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: I know Lamar's injured, but we'll dive into it. And
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  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, woo! Man is coming. He looks good. Big,
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  Speaker 1: big weekend in college football. Heisman Saturday, some might say. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying that. I don't know if everyone's saying that.
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  Speaker 1: But there's a lot on the line Saturday night for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Not the greatest Slate Sunday, but we will dive into it.
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  Speaker 1: We'll do a couple mailbag questions at the end as well.
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  Speaker 1: there as well. Let's dive into the... The Thursday night game.
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  Speaker 1: So the expectations for the Ravens, once they place two
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  Speaker 1: quarterbacks today on injured reserve, completely changed. No one views
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  Speaker 1: them as a Super Bowl contender anymore. But, and listen,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to shortchange the Jags. We will get
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  Speaker 1: into them. They are clearly a Super Bowl contender. They're
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  Speaker 1: one of the best teams in the league. Liam Cohen
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  Speaker 1: has Trevor Lawrence playing like, I mean, the first half,
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  Speaker 1: he looked like one of the best quarterbacks in the league.
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  Speaker 1: And now for a year and a half, he has
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  Speaker 1: that guy living up to the billing of being the
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  Speaker 1: number one overall pick. But the Ravens have been one
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  Speaker 1: of the, I would say, the poster childs of one
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  Speaker 1: of the top franchises in the league during the Lamar era,
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  Speaker 1: really over the course of the last 25 years. Tonight
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  Speaker 1: was embarrassing, but they have a major problem on their hands.
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  Speaker 1: Because obviously the expectation with Lamar out and Joey Fagano,
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  Speaker 1: the G is silent, Fanano, I'm completely butchering his name.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he stinks. As a buddy in the league
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  Speaker 1: texts me in the first quarter when Herbstreet and Al
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  Speaker 1: Michaels were trying to make him out to be Fernando Mendoza,
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  Speaker 1: he's like, what are these guys? Can everyone pump the brakes?
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  Speaker 1: And then obviously the game just completely melted on him
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  Speaker 1: as the game went on. But it wasn't all on him.
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  Speaker 1: He wasn't that terrible in the first half. It got
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  Speaker 1: away from him in the second half. But the defense,
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  Speaker 1: which has always been the Ravens calling card, right? They
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  Speaker 1: are a, when you think of that brand, you associate
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  Speaker 1: them with the defensive side of the ball. And then
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  Speaker 1: they get rid of John Harbaugh and they hire this
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  Speaker 1: hotshot defensive coordinator. Chargers defense was excellent when he was
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  Speaker 1: with Harbaugh. The Michigan defense was excellent. This guy comes
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  Speaker 1: from a coaching family. And over the last couple weeks,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you go back to the Bengals game, they
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  Speaker 1: get destroyed in the second half. Last week, okay, I'll
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  Speaker 1: give them a pass. Lamar breaks his thumb, first play
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  Speaker 1: of the game, takes the wind out of your sails,
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  Speaker 1: it unravels, the Bills throw up 35 plus, right? You just,
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  Speaker 1: you get smoked by... an MVP. Okay. How about this week?
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  Speaker 1: Short week at home where you know you got a
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  Speaker 1: quarterback that doesn't even get reps in practice. This is
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  Speaker 1: all about making this thing ugly and dominating on your
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  Speaker 1: side of the ball. You're playing Trevor. You're playing Parker Washington,
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  Speaker 1: an excellent offense. Hey, we just need to neutralize them.
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  Speaker 1: We can't let this thing get away from us. First
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  Speaker 1: drive of the game, Jax. Touchdown. Hit a big play
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  Speaker 1: on Marlon Humphrey staring at the sky or something. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what he was doing. And Trevor Lawrence throughout
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  Speaker 1: that first half, I don't know, looked like he's Matt
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  Speaker 1: Stafford in his prime. Looks like he's Patrick Mahomes. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he was just throwing seed after seed after seed. And
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  Speaker 1: the thing with the Ravens, and I'm not putting this
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  Speaker 1: all on Jesse Minter because if you go last year
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  Speaker 1: when the Harbaugh situation unraveled, are we sure their personnel
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  Speaker 1: is that good? You know, DaCosta... has obviously been in
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  Speaker 1: the league and been with the Ravens for decades. And
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  Speaker 1: now he's been the Ravens GM for, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: since the late 2010s. And when you think about their
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  Speaker 1: personnel and defense, you just assume it's good. Are we
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  Speaker 1: sure it's that good? Like, that's my question. Are we
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  Speaker 1: sure it's that good? Because the one thing I know
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  Speaker 1: about Jesse Minter is he's a good defensive coach. They
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  Speaker 1: get no pressure. Part of the reason they made the
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  Speaker 1: Crosby trade, which they backed out on, Then they sign
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  Speaker 1: Hendrickson who they thought they'd get, you know, pay less money,
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  Speaker 1: shorter term deal, not have to give up the draft picks.
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  Speaker 1: You don't feel him at all. They run these blitzes
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  Speaker 1: with these players that feel slow. If it's not Kyle
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  Speaker 1: Hamilton who gets injured in this game, hopefully it's not
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  Speaker 1: serious for their sake. No one gets home. Honestly, the
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  Speaker 1: one nice play they made the night beside a Hamilton
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  Speaker 1: tackle for loss was Malachi Starks forcing that fumble. And
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  Speaker 1: then like, Four plays later, they turn it over on
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  Speaker 1: downs and the Jags take the ball right back. But
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  Speaker 1: when I watch the Jags, everyone thinks it's this crazy
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  Speaker 1: situation with Brian Thomas. How did he go from this
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  Speaker 1: player to what's going on now? Well, easy. Clearly him
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  Speaker 1: and the coach don't see eye to eye for whatever reason. Scheme, talent, fit,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, only Liam Cohen and their
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  Speaker 1: brass truly know why. But it's like, do you feel
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  Speaker 1: that they're missing him? Because Parker Washington is their version
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  Speaker 1: of JSN. I'm not saying he's that level, but he's
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  Speaker 1: pretty freaking good. Jacoby Myers is excellent. Their running back
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  Speaker 1: tandem is awesome. I mean, Tootin's banged up, but he
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  Speaker 1: runs his ass off. Rodriguez, who Liam coached in college,
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  Speaker 1: is an excellent backup. And then Amir Abdullah is like,
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  Speaker 1: how's a guy still in the league running his ass off?
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  Speaker 1: Like their talent jump. And then obviously whenever they want,
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  Speaker 1: they can just throw Travis Hunter in there who fumbled
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  Speaker 1: the night. But you know, like they got reinforcements. Like
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  Speaker 1: in terms of offensive talent, if their quarterback's going to
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  Speaker 1: play like that, you go, well, he's got a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of weapons to deal with. It's easy to see why
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  Speaker 1: they excel. Yet I watched the talent on the Ravens.
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  Speaker 1: Like I see the names. Metabuke was just, yeah, he
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  Speaker 1: was awesome before he hurt his neck. Trey Hendrickson, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he was cool like three years ago. Roquan Smith, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he was a badass back in the day. I could
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  Speaker 1: make the argument that their personnel is living off reputation
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  Speaker 1: and clearly not production. Because tonight would have been a
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  Speaker 1: night where you just kind of draw a line in
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  Speaker 1: the sand and go, listen, we're going to try to
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  Speaker 1: win this thing, I don't know, 15 to 13, and
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  Speaker 1: we're going to carry the team. Kind of like the
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  Speaker 1: groups of old. And they couldn't do it. Not only
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  Speaker 1: could they not do it, Liam and Trevor went, no guys,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to bend you over. We're going to do
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  Speaker 1: whatever we want. And the game at halftime is going
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  Speaker 1: to be a wrap. Because the quarterback you're playing is
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  Speaker 1: going to have no chance to bring you back 17-3.
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  Speaker 1: And their offensive coordinator, who's this Ben Johnson disciple, and
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  Speaker 1: I get it. You get very conservative. It's in the rain.
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  Speaker 1: This guy hasn't been taking reps all season. But it's like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I understand a couple wildcat plays, right, to try to
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  Speaker 1: mix it up. You get down a couple scores like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: you're going to lose by 20, you're going to lose
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  Speaker 1: by 40. You got to attempt to push the ball
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  Speaker 1: down the field, and they never really did. They're like,
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  Speaker 1: we're just going to run it. Well, that's not going
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  Speaker 1: to work. So it's like the score at this point
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  Speaker 1: in time doesn't matter. whether they score 80 or, like,
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  Speaker 1: are you just trying to keep it respectable? Play football
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  Speaker 1: or just don't play football. Like, you cannot run the
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  Speaker 1: Wildcat in these end-of-round Wildcat plays every single time when
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  Speaker 1: you're down 20-plus points. It doesn't make any sense. So
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  Speaker 1: I think the Ravens, which have been one of the
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  Speaker 1: more buttoned-up, impressive operations throughout most of my adult life... Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: Lamar's injury derails their ceiling, but it shouldn't derail what
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  Speaker 1: we just witnessed. I mean, that was, if I didn't
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  Speaker 1: do this for a living, 100%, especially because I took
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  Speaker 1: the Ravens tonight, would have turned the game off at halftime.
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  Speaker 1: The third quarter is one of the worst 15 minutes
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  Speaker 1: of football you will ever see. I mean, it was
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  Speaker 1: as bad of a product as the NFL can put
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  Speaker 1: out there. Because the Jags, the game was over. They
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  Speaker 1: knew it. And the Ravens couldn't do anything if they tried.
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  Speaker 1: And to me, it's a reflection. This coaching staff feels now,
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  Speaker 1: trading for Jacoby Brissett, he ain't going to help you.
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  Speaker 1: He can't move. He just got benched for Gardner Minshew
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  Speaker 1: on a team with probably as much, if not more,
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  Speaker 1: offensive talent than you have. They couldn't move on from
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  Speaker 1: him fast enough. And I think a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: with the Cardinals would have said, we should have moved
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  Speaker 1: on from him a long time ago. So I think
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  Speaker 1: the Ravens, this season, as... Might be lucky he didn't
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  Speaker 1: make the Max Crosby trade because that pick could get
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  Speaker 1: better and better and better as this season goes. You know,
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  Speaker 1: everyone wanted to pin it on Harbaugh. And listen, it
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  Speaker 1: was time for divorce. Him and Tomlin. Like, it was time.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to play Monday morning quarterback revisionist history here.
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  Speaker 1: But I think this Ravens roster football team has a
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  Speaker 1: lot more going on than just their quarterbacks injured. Because
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  Speaker 1: their defense stinks. and the Jags, who are a legitimate
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  Speaker 1: AFC Super Bowl contender. Like, no one can even argue
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  Speaker 1: it at this point. We talked about it coming into
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  Speaker 1: this game. When they win as a big favorite, they
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  Speaker 1: don't win by a little. They dominate. They blow you out.
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  Speaker 1: And the way you do that, obviously you can have
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  Speaker 1: a game like a couple weeks ago with the Tampa
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  Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers, where you get a bunch of turnovers, defensive scores,
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  Speaker 1: Or your quarterback just slices and dices you. And then
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  Speaker 1: when they ever get into a short yardage situation, it's
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  Speaker 1: guaranteed to work because you're running games elite. And the combination,
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  Speaker 1: they mentioned this on the broadcast, we talk a lot
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  Speaker 1: about Kyle and Purdy, or Caleb now and Ben Johnson,
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  Speaker 1: forever it was Andy and Mahomes. That's what this is
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  Speaker 1: right now. Liam Cohen is elite at his job. is incredible.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I am blown away every time I see
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  Speaker 1: this guy coach. And the way he has Trevor Lawrence playing,
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  Speaker 1: who went through a stretch there where he wasn't just overrated,
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  Speaker 1: people were like, is this guy even that good? To
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  Speaker 1: now clearly playing like one of the top quarterbacks in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL. Like the throws he's making into traffic, even
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  Speaker 1: just the basic stuff, like the one-on-one situation to Parker Washington,
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  Speaker 1: over a linebacker, hit him in stride, walk-in touchdown. He's
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  Speaker 1: doing that stuff, it feels like, with his eyes closed.
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  Speaker 1: I was, went, whoa. This is a team, and clearly,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, their division, I mean, the Colts and Titans
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  Speaker 1: are done, and the Texans just have too big of
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  Speaker 1: an uphill battle to climb. I mean, this division's already over.
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  Speaker 1: They're the division champs. Now, if you're them, you get
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  Speaker 1: a couple days, take a deep breath, you just start going, okay,
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  Speaker 1: this stretch now, into mid-November through December, we're going for
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  Speaker 1: the one seed. Because you look around the AFC like,
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  Speaker 1: who's better than them? Who can you definitively say is
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  Speaker 1: better than them right now? As complete of a team.
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  Speaker 1: And they deserve credit for this because the Travis Hunter
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  Speaker 1: thing was an aggressive move in the draft. No one
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  Speaker 1: can play both ways. And you know what? They admitted it.
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  Speaker 1: He'll play a couple plays on offense. He's a defensive player.
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  Speaker 1: And their defense feels better. Dramatically. And he's made a
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  Speaker 1: ton of plays for them this year. Like, the Jags
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  Speaker 1: defense looks like what I'm always told the Ravens defense is,
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  Speaker 1: which they haven't been in a long time. Since the
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  Speaker 1: guy left to go to Seattle. And everyone, because this
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  Speaker 1: is what we do, we just blame the coaches. Could
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  Speaker 1: be the personnel. You know, it could be the personnel.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes it is the coaches. Like, the Jags had good personnel.
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  Speaker 1: And they needed a real coach to coach up that personnel,
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  Speaker 1: and now they're doing it. Now they're thriving. The Ravens, like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I question it. Not sure I see it.
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  Speaker 1: Because when you watch them, you don't see it. You
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  Speaker 1: don't need to be Ozzie Newsome taking notes to go, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this guy's actually a descending player. This guy's not as
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  Speaker 1: good as the hype. This guy's not as good as
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  Speaker 1: what he's getting paid. Because the elite offensive coaches go,
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  Speaker 1: that guy's a weakness. That guy's a liability. Attack, attack, attack.
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  Speaker 1: And it's one thing to attack a player. Like, you
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  Speaker 1: can attack Darrell Revis or Richard Sherman. Not going to work.
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  Speaker 1: You can attack their guys and it's bombs away, big plays,
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  Speaker 1: explosive plays, touchdowns. That's all we've been seeing now for
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  Speaker 1: three weeks. And who have they played for three straight weeks? Bengals, Bills, Jacks.
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  Speaker 1: Three playoff teams. It's crazy to say, but three elite quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Trevor Lawrence. Because the way he's playing,
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  Speaker 1: he's with those guys. That's what the value of Liam
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  Speaker 1: Cohen is. And you see guys like Mike McDonald last year,
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  Speaker 1: Ben Johnson right now, Liam Cohen, whatever they're making, their
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  Speaker 1: owners are stealing right now because they are dramatically underpaid.
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  Speaker 1: The way we talk about Ben Johnson, that is also
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  Speaker 1: what Liam Cohen is doing. The benefit of Ben Johnson
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  Speaker 1: has is coach for Chicago Bears. We talk about you
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  Speaker 1: more when you coach at Notre Dame, when you coach
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  Speaker 1: at Alabama, when you coach at Georgia. No one had
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  Speaker 1: ever heard of Bob Chesney, right? You coach for the Jags,
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  Speaker 1: you don't get the same love as when you coach
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  Speaker 1: for the Bears or Kyle with the 49ers, right? Or
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  Speaker 1: if you're coaching for the Green Bay Packers. Nature of
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  Speaker 1: the business. Nature of the brands. Tell you this, I
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  Speaker 1: don't give a shit about the brand. That motherfucker's elite.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, geez louise. So extremely impressive performance by the Jags.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, I understand the backup quarterback, but there's
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  Speaker 1: a reason when the line goes after the limping gazelle,
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  Speaker 1: it's over quick. And that's what it was tonight. And
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  Speaker 1: the Jags were the predator. And the Ravens were the prey.
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  Speaker 1: Your season's over. And it could get really, really ugly
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  Speaker 1: from here on out. And it's going to be easy
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  Speaker 1: to blame the coaching staff. But I think that bald-headed
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  Speaker 1: general manager, he deserves some heat too. Because the talent
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  Speaker 1: on this roster looks slow. Definitely not. No pass rush.
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  Speaker 1: No one's sticking to anyone in coverage. Haven't in weeks.
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  Speaker 1: So they got going through some tough times, man. They
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  Speaker 1: really are. And the other big news tonight was that
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: Brandon Ayuk... The 49ers are not going to budge on this.
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  Speaker 1: They feel he embarrassed them. They feel he screwed them.
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  Speaker 1: And they feel he legitimately quit on them. And the players,
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  Speaker 1: without saying it, are all reiterating that. So I don't
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  Speaker 1: quite understand why Drew Rosenhaus, at this point in time
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  Speaker 1: in his career... With how much he's accomplished, how much
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  Speaker 1: money he's made, why he'd want to do something like this. But, hey,
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: sometimes you just need to get your juices flowing. And
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  Speaker 1: it's been reported he's going to show up tomorrow at
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  Speaker 1: 3 o'clock. And the 49ers put it out relatively quickly
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  Speaker 1: tonight after Schefter tweeted that. Well, he owes us $ 13 million.
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  Speaker 1: So unless you're stroking us a $ 13 million check, you
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  Speaker 1: can show up, but we're probably not letting you in
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  Speaker 1: the door, buddy. And that's the recourse you have when
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: you give a guy a signing bonus, typically when a
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: guy retires, right? When Andrew Luck retired during that preseason game,
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  Speaker 1: the Colts could have come, I'm just using him as
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  Speaker 1: an example, could have come at some of his signing bonus.
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  Speaker 1: They chose not to. I think probably hoping that one
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  Speaker 1: day he would come back. Never did, but whatever. That's
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  Speaker 1: not how the 49ers are going to play this. And
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's fair to guess. You think
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  Speaker 1: Brandon Aukes got $ 13 million left over right now? Because
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  Speaker 1: I don't. So I think the 49ers are prepared to,
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  Speaker 1: this is old school. Like in this new school day
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  Speaker 1: and age where it's like, no, just give in, let
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: the players, a little player empowerment, and the NFL's turned
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  Speaker 1: into a lot of that. This is going to have
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  Speaker 1: a 70s, 80s, 90s feel to it. We're ready to
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: go to war. And we're not just going to release you,
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  Speaker 1: cut you, and have you, which I can't even imagine.
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  Speaker 1: I said this yesterday or two days ago. I can't
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  Speaker 1: even imagine a team signing this guy. I mean, seriously.
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  Speaker 1: But I've never put it past NFL general managers. People
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  Speaker 1: are desperate. Who even knows if he's healthy. But the
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  Speaker 1: 49ers are not going to make this easy. And nor
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  Speaker 1: should they. Because I think it's pretty clear when you watch...
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: The 49ers players, these are pretty high-level cats. When you
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: watch George Kittle and Trent Williams, Fred Warner, these aren't
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: just some of the stars of the league. These are
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: some of... I would say the people in the league
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  Speaker 1: you want your kids to look up to. And the
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: way they react is like, what a loser. And the
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  Speaker 1: 49ers are prepared to make this really, really ugly. So
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  Speaker 1: I would guess as the day plays out tomorrow, and
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  Speaker 1: Drew Rosenhaus is not afraid to get in the mud.
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  Speaker 1: But I understand some of his long-term clients historically, maybe
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  Speaker 1: like a Tyreek Hill type that he's had the whole time,
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  Speaker 1: clearing organization. Let's dive into the Notre Dame game. And
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: you could make the argument this could be Heisman Saturday, right?
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Typically the Heisman trophy, I mean, ideally a guy has
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: a moment, right? A player has a game, has a
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: couple plays late in the season that separate their candidacy
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: and kind of put them over the edge. And this
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: year is pretty wide open. Like there's not a guy
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: that has just grabbed the bull by the horns and
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: ran away with it. I mean, early in the season,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: it felt like, jeremiah smith's getting my vote he's the
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: best player he's putting up these crazy stats and then
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: his quarterback this college is so mysterious with these injuries
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: like he's got a sling on break his collarbone break
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: his elbow i don't know i i don't think we
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: see julian saying again this season we'll we'll dive into
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: in a second the young quarterback but Once you lose
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: your quarterback, you're pretty dependent on that human being. And
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: on the flip side, this game, this is a historic rivalry.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: This is a game that goes back to people that
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: are older than me. Notre Dame versus Miami. These are
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: two of the most historic brands, programs in all of
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: college football. And this is a make or break game
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: for Notre Dame. And when the news came out yesterday
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: that Malachi Toney, who was kind of right there with
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith, and once Jeremiah Smith lost his quarterback, you went,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: could Malachi Toney just win the Heisman? And now he's
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: injured and going to be out at least for the
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: regular season. You know, he's going to need surgery on
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: this high ankle. Everyone's being, I would say, pretty optimistic,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: though if Notre Dame wins this, or even if they
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: lose this game but run the table and win the ACC,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: they're probably getting one of the top four seeds no
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: matter what. So they'll get a bye, you would think,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: given they're number one right now. You could argue this game,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: like Darian Mensah, if he knocks out Notre Dame without
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Malachi Toney, I don't want to say solidify himself as
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: the Heisman Trophy winner, but he definitely can put himself
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: as the lead dog. I didn't quite realize, I mean,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: The majority of Miami's games have been a joke. They
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: played in two. Obviously, the Florida State game was pretty fascinating,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: and the game against Belichick was also pretty interesting. But
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: they have played in some unwatchable contests. He's thrown 25
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: touchdowns and one interception. His completion percentage is almost 81%.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: The problem going into this game, and the rest of
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: the regular season at least, is that Malachi Toney has
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: accounted for 13 of those 25 touchdowns. And if you just,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: you don't really have to be locked into Miami. When
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: all else fails, throw it to Tony. And I saw
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: some people are like, why is he practicing? It's like, guys,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: this isn't basketball or baseball. You practice football during the week.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: And you can get injured. I heard my guy Bud
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Elliott say this. This is not a contact sport. It's
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: a collision sport. Like, you get injured doing anything in
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: the sport of football. Lifting, training, routes on air. Like,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Malachi Toney plays an 11-on-11 in practice. This isn't peewees.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, in real football, you practice, right? And I
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: haven't seen any stories on exactly what the moment was
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: in practice. I can't imagine. I would be stunned. If
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: this was a situation where he went down, like it
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: wasn't those where he just like kind of scrambled off
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: the field and went with the trainers and not everyone noticed,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: but it's like I've been in a million of these
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: practices when a guy's just down on the ground after
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: the play and everyone stops, given it was him, you
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: could not continue practice. Like in a moment where he
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: needed help getting to the sideline, practice stopped, this is
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: the type of player that you can't refocus. There is
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: no continuing to just, you know, move forward. Like, just
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: line it up, boys. No, it's like, no, that's a wrap.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: And this also, we talked about it earlier. Notre Dame
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: just has the perception, because it's reality, that they can't
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: win big games. And they've been given a little bit
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: of a gift here. And if you can't win this
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: game without him, even though Miami's still pretty good, I mean,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: it's not like Mario's been recruiting me and you just
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: beside Malachi, Tony, and Darian Mensah. They're still pretty stacked defensively.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Notre Dame has a ton of injuries. Misses a ton
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: of guys on defense. I was reading yesterday, I mean,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: countless guys are up in the air to play in
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: this game. It's not like they're the healthiest team either.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: But as a massive favorite at home, the numbers now,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: I think, above a touchdown, it's a must win. And
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: to me, if Mensah, without Tony, can throw, let's say,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: three touchdowns for 250, 260, 270 yards, lead them to
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: victory on the road, I think it'll be pretty hard
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: to eclipse him moving forward. Like, this could be his moment.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: And on the flip side, same thing with C.J. Carr.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: They have to win. Or else, I mean, I was
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: joking with Jackson, who's a diehard Notre Dame fan. Remember
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: last year, he was like, we're not playing in the
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Pop-Tart Bowl. It's like, do they just... They lose this game. Obviously,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: they're out of the playoffs. Do they just take their
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: ball and go home? Do they just let everyone know,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: not only are we not playing the Pop-Tart Bowl, but
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: we're just going to refuse to play the rest of
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: the season. I'm sorry, that's one of the most laughable
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: decisions in recent memory. I mean, it truly is. Can
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: you imagine Kirby Smart or Nick Saban doing that? It's like, okay,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Jeremiah Love and Darion Price, you guys go pro. Malachi Fields,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: we have a bunch of freshmen here that are going
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: to get reps. I'm still... I can't get it. It's like, well,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: my leadership council didn't want to play. Well, you're the boss.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: You could have told them you played once upon a
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: time at Ohio State. You think Jim Trestle would have
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: let this happen? Doubtful. So, I think one of these
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: two quarterbacks, whoever wins the game, assuming they have a
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: good game, you know, CJ Carr has 18 touchdowns and
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: one interception. He made some pretty big plays down the
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: stretch of that BYU game. But like, let's face it,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: you know, when you look at the the top 25
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: in the playoff rankings, you think these guys are watching
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: every game? Like, these guys watch games on Saturday like
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: people like me and you do. We watch the big
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: games that are on the main channels. You know, I'm not, well,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, sometimes I do because I'm bored. But, like,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I don't believe most of those guys are digging deep
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: and really breaking down, like, team 20 to 50. You know,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: no fucking chance. This is the type of game that
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: they watch every snap and take notes on. And this
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: is the type of game, from a Heisman standpoint, from
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: a ranking standpoint, from just a fan standpoint, you know,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: there are going to be a lot of people watching
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: this bad boy. You could argue, beside like Bears-Bucks, New England,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: and Green Bay, this is the game of the weekend.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: And you could argue it's bigger in those games, because
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's the NFL, it's
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Week 9. It's like none of those games are making
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: or breaking either team. This literally, like Notre Dame's out.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: That'd be back-to-back years, assuming there's this complete chaos above them,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: that back-to-back years that they just missed the playoffs in
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: a situation where they're playing a bunch of shitty teams.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Pretty embarrassing that they would have had four big games
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: in two seasons and went 0-4 in those big games. Like,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, James Franklin got crushed for this stuff. Like,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: couldn't beat the good teams. And like Marcus Freeman, who
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: everyone likes a lot. Seems like an incredible guy. Awesome coach.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Great motivator. There's a big moment for the guy. There's
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: a big moment. Like Mario Cristobal had his moment. It
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: was called last year. After they blew some of those games,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Carson Beck started pointing fingers at Shannon Dawson. And then
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: they just started rattling off playoff games. Knocked off A & M.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Knocked off Ohio State. And just started making a run.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: And went toe-to-toe with Cignetti. So I can't wait for
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: this bad boy. I do think that Jeremiah Smith, who
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: plays Oregon this week at home, they had the bye
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: week with the freshman quarterback, Fahey. If he can just take... over,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: cause they're kind of, they're in a weird spot, right?
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: They're getting penalized because they played the game against Texas,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: which I do wonder if San was playing for them
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: and they had lost USC. If they would be higher, it's,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: it's hard to know. but they should be because you
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: shouldn't get penalized for playing real football games. You know,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's insane. It should be the whole goal
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: of the business of college football. get as many good
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: teams to play the other good teams out of conference.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: If I'm the television networks, next time we go around,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: it's like, hey boys, we can't just be playing three patsies.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: We got to start playing some real games. If you
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: want this big money to keep on flowing, like we
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: got to meet in the middle here a little bit.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: I really admire and appreciate those two programs playing each other.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Because as you see with Ohio State, there's a lot
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: to lose. I mean, they lost that game. They were
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: in complete control of it. have an awful fourth quarter,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: lose the game. I mean, basically, it's a coin flip
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: game going down the stretch. They lose it and they
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: get penalized. But, like, I do understand this is the
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: thing with the subjectivity of college football. When you're starting
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks out, that does impact you. Like, we could argue
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: till we're blue in the face about the Florida State
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: situation years ago. But, like, pretty big blow. You know,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: it's like all these teams around the NFL, we don't
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: look at the same when their backup quarterback's in. Gardner Minshew,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: awesome story. Probably look a little bit different this weekend
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: at Seattle. I would guess. I would go out on
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: a limb. It's like, I really liked, in theory, Tyson
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Bajent's future. And then he started playing games. I'm like, yeah,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: might've been a little bullish on that one. Might've been
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: a little over my skis on his upside. It's like,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: he's the next Matt Schaub. Or he's just, This is
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: the biggest contract he's ever going to sign, two years,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: $ 10 million from Ben Johnson. Listen, I think Arthur Smith,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: you know what's fascinating? I was thinking about this. These
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: NFL coordinators, it's probably pretty awesome if you're Matt Patricia.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: You're just like, we got the best players every single year,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: and you're paying me like $ 3. 5 million. So I would
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: get probably, who knows, maybe less depending on the team
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: I went to, to be a defensive coordinator in the NFL.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: He'd still make a lot of money, but There's no
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: guarantee he would make Ohio State salary, especially the way
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: that last year, remember in Philly, how it went. I
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: think there are a lot of question marks with Matt
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Patricia as an NFL coach at this point in time.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: But in college, Ryan Day loves me. Ohio State loves
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: me because I've been really good for him. And we
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: just get blue chipper after blue chipper every single year. Like, bro,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: if I was your agent, I'd be like, let's ride
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: this out for a little while. Like, this is going
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: to go pretty good. Like, this could be, talent-wise, maybe
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: one of the worst defenses you'll have if you're there
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: for like seven years. And Ryan Day ain't going anywhere.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: So I think if you're Arthur Smith, who kind of
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: made his name with Ryan Tannehill, who was... you know,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: like a doppelganger for Alex Smith, kind of in that vein,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: in that world, which is a solid player. And if
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: you have a good team and they had a good
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: defense and a good running game, he can lead you
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: to the playoffs. But there are going to be times
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: when your back's against the wall, like you're playing the Bengals,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: you're going to throw three picks. Or you're going to
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: be playing the Titans if you're the Chiefs and he's
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: just not going to be good enough. Now, Kelsey got
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: knocked out in that Chiefs game where Mariota beat him
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: in Kansas City. I think he got a concussion. That
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: derailed him big time. That was in the peak of
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Kelsey's powers. But regardless, those were pros. This is a
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: different animal. Going with a true freshman, I'm fascinated to
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: see how this works. I want to believe, just like
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: you're going to find ways to scheme it, but I've
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: also seen these guys with average players absolutely crumble and
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: not be able to get his best players the ball.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: We saw him forever in Atlanta. Like, team's got a
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: lot of good players. So I'm not that confident. Honestly,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: I could see if this quarterback is just still a
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: little overwhelmed, which is totally understandable, that Oregon could be
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: a live dog. Now, they also got Dylan Raiola that
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: you never know what you're going to get. The other guy,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Ole Miss plays Georgia this week. And it's a pretty
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: big game for Ole Miss. I think they still could
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: make the playoffs if they lose this, but their spot
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: would be in major jeopardy. Now, of all the, you know,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith, his stats obviously dip a little bit once
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: the starting quarterback leaves. But, like, we all agree, best player,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: if he gets back on track with some good numbers,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: I don't think anyone would argue if he won the
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Heisman if Ohio State runs the table and they're in
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: the playoffs, right? That's like, give them the Heisman. No
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: argument for me. I do think that Trinidad is right
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: up there. It's like, this guy's one of the best
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: players in college football, and he's probably the best quarterback.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: But statistically, like, CJ Carr and Darian Mensah have one
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: interception each. Now, they both haven't exactly played a murderer's
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: row of opponents, but Trinidad has eight picks. And, you know,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: sometimes in some of the bigger games, right, he's forced
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: a little bit, did not play that well against Texas.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: So he's got 18 touchdowns, 8 picks. But he also
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: has 7 rushing touchdowns. So you play Georgia, who I
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: think would be in the running as like, that's the
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: best defense in the country. And that's the level of
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: team that could just win the national. Like, no one
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: would be shocked sitting here today if I told you.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: You know who ends up winning the national championship? Kirby
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: and Georgia. Especially in a year that's wide open. Are
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: they the perfect team? Of course not. But like, are
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: they a national championship caliber team? Given the field? 100%.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: So you take them down in a game that a
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: ton of people are going to be watching. There's some
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: big boy games this weekend. And that is right up there.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: If you go Notre Dame-Miami is number one, you could
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: argue that Ole Miss and Georgia is number two. LSU-Bama
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: is right up there. BYU-Utah. I mean, it's a fantastic slate.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: But if you tell me that Trinidad throws three touchdowns
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: and rushes for one, and they upset Georgia and win
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: by a touchdown, 10 points or whatever. And he has
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: his way with that defense. I think he could throw
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: his hat right back in the ring, which who I personally,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: when it comes to CJ Carr and Mensah, who are
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: good players, it's like, I just, you're playing nobody. Like I,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: I would much rather see Trinidad or Jeremiah Smith win
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: this award. I really would. Unless Derry Mensah is from
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: San Luis Obispo where I went to college. Um, seems
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: like great kid, great, great player. And it's not his
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: fault that the ACC just blows. Like it kind of is,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: it's not, you know, CJ Carr's fault. Notre Dame schedules
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: as bad as it is. That's on the administration. But like, I,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: I just, I, I'm sorry. I, I struggled to reward
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: that when the whole point of football should be playing
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: the other good teams. Like you just don't play any
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: other good teams. And then if you shit the bed here, um, Man,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: that's going to be a tough look for Notre Dame.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: So it's exciting times. Massive games out there. I think
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: college game day's there. A lot of eyeballs on that game.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: My guess is the amount of people that watch it
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: will be pretty eye-opening. We were watching the Matthew Perry documentary.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, sad deal. Jesus. But they were going through
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: when he got on Friends and how big of a
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: show that was. And I was trying to explain It's like, Marie,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: do you understand? Because I talk viewership and numbers. She
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: doesn't understand. Like 10 million people watch, 20 million people watch.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: I'm like, 20 million people just watch the Eagles and
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: the Commanders, which baffles some people. It's like, guys, this
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: is the NFL. If you put on big, just nobody
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: could play nobody. If you put it on Sunday Night Football,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: it's the number one show in America. So especially two
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: big brands, even if they're having down years, like people
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: are going to watch. We don't watch anything else on
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Sunday night. Like no one's clicking to the other channels.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: So it's not that shocking. But I was showing her
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: like friends in season one averaged like 24 million people.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: And the power of these networks when I was a
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: kid were a lot of people like myself. I didn't
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: even have cable till I was like in junior high,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: maybe like 99, 2000. I only had the five channels.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: So you were just more than likely if you're sitting
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: at home on a whatever the big show was on
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Thursday night or Monday night. You just were going to
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: watch it because you only had so many options. That's
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: what's crazy about the time we live in now. The
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: amount of options. Sometimes, for as much as I will
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: make fun of this Sunday slate, which you're going to
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: have some bad weeks, it is pretty remarkable that I
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: can just, in my office, have multiple TVs and set
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: two TVs with four boxes and have all eight games
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: going at one time. That is something that 15, 18,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: 25-year-old me would have been like, this is so badass.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: And now we take it for granted. We really do.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: I do. I'm guilty of it. And it's no different
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: than when I'm scrolling sometimes at night and I can't
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: find anything to watch. I'm like, there's an unlimited amount
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: of options for me to watch stuff. I just can't choose.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Maybe sometimes like going to, you know, One of those
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: restaurants with a massive, massive menu. It's hard to pick.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: I think we do take it for granted. It's no
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: different now at college. You can just watch the four boxes.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Problem is, on college Saturdays, I'm usually not in my office.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: I'm in the home with my family, and she is
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: just very active. anti the four box she's like overstimulated
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: too much going on I'm like if I'm gonna stay
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: in the house especially on big weeks like this weekend
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: we gotta have the four boxes going I gotta be
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: able to watch like if Notre Dame and in Miami
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: is going at the same time as Georgia will miss.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to watch one game on my iPad.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Not when I have the options, not when I have
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: a 85 inch TV, which honestly I was in Costco.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: When did we go? We took Jack a couple of
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: weeks ago and I walk in and I remember when,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: when I bought that TV, it's when we moved in
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: the house, whatever, three years ago. And the difference between
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: an 85 inch TV, I originally bought the 75 inch TV.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: We had a pretty big wall in the living room
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: and it looks small. So I got the 85-inch TV.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: And it's still like we have a lot of room.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: The difference, though, was is the 85-inch TV to the
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: 100-inch TV at the time was like, you know, the
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: 85-inch TV wasn't cheap by any means, $ 1, 500 or something.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Maybe it was like $ 1, 700. But the 100-plus-inch TVs, there
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: weren't that many of them. So I like went to
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Best Buy, and the only one I could find was
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: like $ 6, 000. And then the other day, I'm in Costco,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: and you're just Samsung's that 99 or 98-inch TV, which
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: is essentially 100 inches, was like $ 1, 300 or $ 1, 400. I
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: told Marie the other day, I'm like, I think I
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: got to get rid of this thing. I think I'd
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: probably have to get it delivered because where's it going
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: to fit? It's not going to fit in a Tahoe.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: I don't have a truck. But I kind of want
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: to upgrade because that's just... The price point on televisions,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: for all the inflationary items that are a part of
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: our life, food, gas, you name it. I mean, literally everything.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: It is remarkable how televisions, which most of us spend
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: a decent amount of time staring at, have gone down
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: in value over the years. People that are young will
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: never quite understand that how rare it was for people
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: like of my age range in the 90s to have
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: a big TV like a big TV in a home
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: was like 40 inches I knew over the course of
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: my youth and then even through high school I think
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: I could I definitely could count on one hand the
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: people that had big screen TVs even by the time
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: I graduated high school in 03 and one of my
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: buddies Fry that had the big screen TV his it
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: was like the size of like a Ford Explorer. I mean,
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: it was massive. Now these things are like an inch wide.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: It's incredible invention. So let's dive into the weekend. It's, listen,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: on paper, it's bad. It's not even possible to make
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: a four box. Cincinnati plays Atlanta in Spain, Madrid. Here
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: is the 11 a.m. games for those of us on
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Mountain Times. I don't know why. Arizona does not change
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: the time. It is bizarre. I keep saying to Maria,
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out what time it is for
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: other people. She's like, we don't change the time. Our
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: time didn't change. I know we didn't change, but everyone
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: else changed. And now it throws me off. I went
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: to check the stock market the day after on Monday
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: morning of this week. And 6.30, nothing had changed. I'm like,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: is there a holiday today? And then I realized that
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: I'm on Mountain Time now. I'm only two hours behind
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Eastern Time. I go to watch Colin, hour behind. It
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: just throws me off. But it's kind of nice for
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: the morning game. Starts at 7.30 for me now. Madrid.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Here are the 11 o'clock games. If you live on
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: the East Coast, obviously 1 o'clock. Dallas Indy. New York,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Kansas City. Detroit at Miami. Miami. Cleveland at New Orleans, J.J.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: McCarthy at Joe Milton, Los Angeles Rams at Washington, and
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Denver at Carolina. I mean, I don't even know what,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: if you had to rank the most interesting game, it's
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: probably J.J. McCarthy, Shador Sanders, one of those two. Maybe
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys, if they were to melt down, would Jerry
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: start firing people if they lost to this lifeless Colts team?
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, these are a lot of playoff teams playing
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: teams they're going to be drafting. I mean, if you
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: go Kansas City as a playoff team, Detroit's probably a
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: playoff team. The Rams will probably end up being a
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: playoff team. Obviously, Denver's a playoff team. I mean, you're
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: talking about teams. Some of these teams are going to
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: be drafting in the top five. I mean, the Jets
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: are going to be drafting in the top five. That
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: being said, I kind of like the Jets and the points.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, the Colts might not win another game unless
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: they beat the Cowboys. J.J. McCarthy at Philadelphia is pretty fascinating.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: But like, what are you even supposed to do with
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: this slate? I mean, seriously. I think the Jets is
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: just entertainment from the standpoint of What's Aaron Glenn going
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: to do this week? I do think the number is
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: pretty big for the Chiefs. One thing about the Jets
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: is they can score some points. Chiefs are a little
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: banged up. Peter Woods messed up his neck. Delane's shoulder,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: I think it's a carryover from earlier this season. It's
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: something to keep an eye on. I probably like the
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: Jets and the points. Though it's like, are you going
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: to bet on the New York Jets? Detroit at Miami.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: The one thing I was thinking... And this goes for
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Miami with Tony as well. It's different, obviously. I mean,
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: one guy's in the hospital. He just got feeling back
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: in his lower body. Hopefully he gains it back in
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: his upper body. Team captain, a core guy that has
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: been with their core group of guys, which is a
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: really high-level group. To me, they either go down, like,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: they got two options. It's an all-time rally for Jack. Like,
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: we're going to go out and we're going to beat
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: the shit out of this team that does play hard,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: but should not be even in the same conversation with
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: us if we play, I don't know, a B plus game,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: A minus game. We could beat this team by 20.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Or it's one of those where it's been really difficult
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: for a lot of our guys to focus. It's been
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: heavy on this team the whole week. The guy is
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: laying in a hospital bed. fighting for movement in his body.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: One of their team captains. One of the guys that
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: Dan and the rest of their team goes out of
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: the way to talk about. So, I'm going to lean
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: because of Dan and his ability to unite, his ability
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: to uplift. I mean, it's one of his great skills.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: He's actually kind of, when I think Dan Campbell... obviously
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: you want to avoid these moments like the plague, but
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: sometimes they're just inevitable. He's the type guy you would
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: want in this situation leading your football team because I
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: would expect Detroit to have a pretty spirited effort. Like,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: I'm going to hammer the Lions this week, but I'll
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: be the first to it. It is risky. If you
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: tell me they look like shit, they end up losing
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: this game, like, it's totally understandable. And it comes out,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: you know, it was really hard, like, It was just
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: tough on a lot of guys. That's a moment where
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: you just– I mean, it's a tough situation. But I'm
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: going to bet on Dan. I'm going to bet on
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: kind of their core group kind of rallying it around
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: for Jack Campbell. But, yeah, I mean, that's– I don't
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: even know what else to say on that one. Shador's playing, which–
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: I'm over Deshaun Watson. We've all seen it enough. I
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: know their record has been pretty good, right? I mean,
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: they were 5-2 going into that Steeler game. But anyone
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: acting like he had been good or a big reason
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: they were winning is not watching them play. I think
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: in a perfect world, Shador just looks solid win or
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: lose this week, and you just keep rolling with that.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: They become... way more like they were interesting in the
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: sense that the Browns never win. They started winning games.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: I do think they got a huge slice of humble
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: pie by the Steelers who let's face it. Aren't even
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: that good. I mean, they're going to have a solid record,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: but they're a pretty flawed team given the DK Metcalf
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: blows and, uh, they don't really like their passing game
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: is just going to struggle. Right. So I, at, That's
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: why I'm paying attention to that game. I guess Jordan
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Tyson might come back. I saw he said that he's
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: faster than ever. Receivers are always saying that. Yeah, faster
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: than ever. It's like, bro, you've had like 18 hamstring injuries.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: I do think the thing with the Eagles, I don't
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: blame them. I saw Nick Foles had some comments about
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: he thought that Tanner McKee should have got another week
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: for backup quarterbacks. You start getting in a groove. The
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: more games you start playing, it's like, Nick, I understand
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: what you're saying. And it's not totally his fault. It's
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: a total operational failure. It's not all on one individual.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: But the Eagles, they're in desperation mode. And because of
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: their limitations, Tanner McKee can't make miraculous plays. And is
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: Joe Milton any good? I don't know. But at least
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: there's some hope there. And this franchise, this brand, specifically
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: this coach, is in desperate need of some hope. Because
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: right now, they feel dead. They feel complacent. Think about
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: some of these other shittier teams, like Miami has more life.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: If I just read you off the bad teams playing, Dallas, Indy,
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: the Jets, Miami, even the Saints, all those teams have
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: a little more juice. The Eagles feel completely dead on arrival.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: So that's why you go to the bullpen. You just
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: hope to spark something. Because what you're doing week after
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: week not only is not working, it's getting worse. And
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: it feels like it's bleeding into the defense, which is
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: playing like crap, but still has good players. So maybe
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: you spark some life into them. And then obviously the
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: big question in this game is like coming off of
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: a bye has, you know, has had now ton of
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: extra days to study the playbook, get on the same
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: page with the coaches, continue to grow in the offense,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: gain a rapport with his, with his weapons. Though I
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: saw neighbors miss practice today, which would be a pretty big,
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: I don't, you know, if, You just never know with
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: injuries in the NFL. But, like, neighbors and J.J. McCarthy
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: have had a massive, I would say, just explosion and
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: connection so far when he got into the game. I mean,
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: they put him in at halftime. What game was that?
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Was that the Commanders game? Was that the game they tied?
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: Was that the week after? That was the week after.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: They play the Texans. When did J.J. make his debut?
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Where's J.J. McCarthy? Where are the Giants? Who'd they play? Oh,
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: the Saints. Came in against the Saints, where they lost
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: at halftime, and then the Texans. So... It's a big story.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, it just is. Especially now Kyler's injured. Which
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: is like... You know what Kevin O'Connell and the Vikings
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: do a good job of? If someone will finish the game,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: you'll think everything's fine, and then they'll tell you, but
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: they're playing like shit. And then the guy will just
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: be injured. You're like, is he truly injured or are
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: you doing a soft benching? Because it felt like they
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: did that last year with J.J. McCarthy. He was just like,
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: give him some random injury. It's like ankle sprain, elbow tendinitis.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: It would just give him random injuries. It's like, well,
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: he just played terribly. And then you would just do
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: a soft benching, but you don't want to come out.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: And maybe this is the quarterback in Kevin O'Connell. If
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: I wanted to go conspiracy theory, That they just make
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: up injuries to bench a guy because they don't want
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: to crush him. Because he's very sensitive to that as
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: a former quarterback. And then they can insert Wentz and make...
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: Is Bosmer a BYU guy? I think he's the backup quarterback.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: And Kyler just takes a week off. It's almost like
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: one of those when you're a little kid and you
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: get in trouble. It's like, go to your room and
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: cool off. It's like, Kyler, just... I think Call of
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Duty come out tomorrow? You better believe hamstring injury not starting.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Dude is going to game... But that game, they're not
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: playing until Monday night. The Rams lost– I mean, the
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: Rams have had a lot of injuries, though it looks
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: like Myles Garrett, whether he plays this weekend, is definitely
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: coming back. Denver at Carolina. I saw that Carolina's new Walsh,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: their new defensive coordinator, Todd Walsh, he's been a defensive
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: coordinator before, was asked about his, like, coaching style. And
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: he started crying, which– I found myself, maybe this is
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: having a child, maybe it's just aging, maybe it's just
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: you think about things as you go through life. I
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: get emotional now more than ever. So I'm not trying
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: to laugh or make fun. I cry over things now
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: or get that feeling inside that I can't even imagine
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: having that happen to me like five, ten years ago.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: So sometimes people get amped up. But typically in press conferences,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: when it's like, describe your coaching philosophy. Guys just don't
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: start crying, but he did. I don't know if that
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: makes me like him or short the Panthers more. I'm
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: kind of out on the Panthers just based on the
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: simple fact it doesn't feel like right now they can
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: block for him at all. And now you're playing Denver
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: who can get after your ass. We saw what the
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: Packers did last week. Micah Parsons was in sweats. What's
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: it going to look like against this unit? So, Houston
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: at the, I mean the Chargers are just If the
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: Chargers could simulate the rest of the season and just
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: wave the white flag and just be like, we quit.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: We're just over it. Because every time it's like, well,
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: the Chargers are getting points at home. Put money on
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: the Chargers. Dare you. Done it a lot this year.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: Every single time it gets worse. They are an unwatchable squad.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: Problem is, Houston, if I could have a beer with
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: Casario and it doesn't look like he drinks, I mean,
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: he got like 3% body fat, I'd go, I understand
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: that you had a need at wide receiver, and I
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: understand that your quarterback surely vouched for his former teammate,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: but you've been doing this a long time. And I
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: even get that the Cardinals are a chaotic organization, and
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: he had lost his confidence, he knew the coaches didn't
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: like him. But even if Monty Ossenfort, who's a buddy
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: of yours, that you fleeced once upon a time to
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: get Will Anderson, just keep saying no, Like how could
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: you offer a second round pick based on how he
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: had played? And honestly, even just watch him like the
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: last time they played, he's just, that's not his value
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: given how he was playing. I'll never understand that. I
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: really won't. To me, that's got a conditional setup written
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: all over. It's like, listen, we will take the problem
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: off your hand, but a top 50 pick, And you're
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: a couple more losses all of a sudden for that
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: pick being really, really valuable. They just benefited from it
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: last year. From the Laramie Tunzel trade. When they got
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: the Commander second round pick. Well, going into the year,
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: the Commanders felt pretty good about it. And then they
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: had a year from hell and that pick turned out
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: to be a top 40 pick. I just, no one
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: would give a top 45 pick right now for Marvin
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: Harrison Jr. Vegas at San Francisco. I heard Greg Cosell today.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: I was in the car. He said since Bowers came
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: back in like week three, they're in a two tight end,
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: basically offense, 80 plus percent of the time, which makes sense.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: They don't really have wide receivers. I do think this
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: is a pretty tough spot for the Raiders. The 49ers
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: coming off a bye. They trade for Buckner. They're getting
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: Bosa back. This gets to the Pennix thing. When they
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: got lit up by Pennix, their issue was their pass
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: rush didn't exist. They even got close to him. They
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: had three pressures in the game. And I think Penix
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: was the offensive player of the week. When you can
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: hit Penix and just get around his feet, he is done.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Cousins is the same way. They cannot move. So if
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: you can rush the passer, which adding Bosa, who should
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: have fresh legs, And adding Buckner, who's just already in
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: the mix of it, with Osa, like they should get
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: after Cousins' ass. And the thing with the Raiders is
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: they cannot rush the football. Jenty is a disaster for them.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: Got benched last week. So if you can't rush the ball,
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: and if you can just... Now listen, the 49ers, their
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: slot corners banged up. One of their starting safeties is
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: banged up. How you cover Bowers is very difficult. But
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: it's like, okay, he'll catch... 7 for 90. Cool. And
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: a touchdown. Great. Who else is making plays? And if
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: they can't run the ball and they are in passing
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: down situations, if we pressure Cousins, that's when he'll fold.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: And I mean fold not from like, he's some pussy.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: I just mean like he can't, if he can't set
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: his feet, his arm's not strong enough, this is the
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: Pennix thing. Everything has to be perfect for them to
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: deliver the strikes. And he's had some games where that
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: is and he's put up big numbers. Now the 49ers,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: Mike Evans is going to be out, which is pretty
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: concerning because it's not necessarily just because they're going to
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: miss him this game. It's because he's got an Achilles injury,
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: and it's like, is it one of those things? I've
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: always had a theory that an Achilles injury is like
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: wear and tear. So once you start seeing the sore Achilles,
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: it's like when you look at your tire, you're like,
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: this thing doesn't have much longer left. And I feel
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: like a lot of guys with sore Achilles end up
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: popping the Achilles. Now, I think Mike Evans was telling
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: John Lynch like three weeks ago, I've dealt with this
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: last year, I know how to manage it, but he
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: leaves the game a couple weeks ago, then he misses
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: the bye week and he's still not ready, which is
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: not ideal. Debo's out, but McCaffrey, Kittle, this is the
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: type of game for the 49ers. You just handle the
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: Raiders because they should not be able to do much
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: to you on offense if you can get after Cousins.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: And the marquee game, I mean, this is a pretty
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: cool story. You know, Tom Brady. I saw Chris Russo like,
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: this is, why is everyone talking about this? Like, I
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: don't know, he's Tom Brady. He's going back to Foxborough
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: as a broadcaster. That's pretty cool. And Gronkowski's getting, going
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: into the Patriot Hall of Fame. Like, it's kind of
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: a big weekend with two of the most prominent players
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: in the history of the league and many that we
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: consider the greatest quarterback of all time going to the
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: place that fucking made him who he is. Which, I mean,
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: he played a huge part in that. But that venue,
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: when you think about Tom Brady games, you think about
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: him at Foxboro. Because they were always the one or
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: two seat. They were hosting all the games. That's where
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: some of the most prominent moments of his career, really,
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: in the internet era. happened. Those games, in that venue,
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: and it's been weird. Like, there's no really way to
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: argue that he has, I would say, struggled post, like,
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: when he went to Tampa and then as a broadcaster
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: to associate himself with with the Patriots. And I, like
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: some guys, when they play somewhere, they stay there and
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: they live forever, even if they're not from there. Some guys,
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: even if they get traded or move on, come back
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: to that place and that's their home. Other guys, for
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: whatever reason, like Tom Brady, clearly doesn't want to live
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: in Boston, right? And doesn't associate himself that closely with
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: the Patriots. But, if Rabel's their coach, who he didn't
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: even pick last year in the Super Bowl. He's like, yeah,
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of indifferent. Just want to see a good game.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: And everyone got really offended by that. It's like, guys,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: people often ask me, like, John, how big of a
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: 49er fan are you? I said, a lot. Not nearly
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: as big as, like, my wife. I mean, I guess
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: I want them to win, but, like, I'll gladly bet
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: against them. If you told me that they lose and
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: it's better for my show, I will say, well, I
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: want them to lose. I care about what I'm doing now.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: My fandom has kind of gone out the window because
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: I care most about stories. I care most about what's
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: going to be best for the show. I care best
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: what's going to be most interesting. Don't get me wrong.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: If you told me if you could choose a team
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl, I'd be like, I got
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: the 49ers. But if you told me our revenue and
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: our listenership would be triple if the 49ers lost the
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl and someone else won, then I would choose
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: that every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: So now that Tom Brady's money is working for the Raiders,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: they call him and ask him advice for their football team.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: The Patriots don't do that. And now in the job
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: he's at, you just start meeting other people. Like I
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: told people this and they couldn't believe it. In 2019,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: when the 49ers lost to the Chiefs, I was rooting
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: for the Chiefs. I wanted to see Coach Reed win
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. It was a pretty emotional moment because
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: just how much it meant to him, how long he
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: had been so close the way they wanted. I remember
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: getting kind of emotional sitting on my couch after they
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: had that comeback victory. And I just think people struggle.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: And obviously Tom, you know, he played for the team forever.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: But it's like at the end of the day, Tom's
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: a businessman. And if you watch Tom now and doing
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: all these different marketing deals, kind of a, I say
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: this not as a criticism, kind of a horror. I mean,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: we all kind of are. Business comes first. Like, he's
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: not a patriot anymore. You know, he's just, he's not.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: I don't think he cares nearly as much. I think
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: it's hard for people to understand. It doesn't mean, like,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: once he's in the arena and he sees Gronk, like,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: it brings back up a lot of great memories, right?
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: But you can have great memories of, and not be
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: obsessed like you once were. Things change. Life changes. Business changes.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: And clearly for Tom, it has dramatically. That being said,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: I would imagine there's going to be a moment in
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: this game, probably early on, where they show him on
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: the Jumbotron, and the place goes nuts. And that'll be
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: pretty cool. I also kind of like the Packers in
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: this spot. I mean, coming off a long week, as
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: of recording this, I guess I'm going to assume Parson plays.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know why. I mean, he was kind of
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: mum about it. But the way he said it, he's like,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say anything. Give them an advantage.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: You know, the Patriots, Drake Mays playing out of his mind. But, like,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: how many times can you throw to Pop Douglas? The
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: night game, Tampa at Chicago. One thing I do wonder
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: about Tampa in this game is, like, You are going
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: to have to throw. You are going to have to
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: score some points. Clearly last week playing the driving rainstorm.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: I don't blame them at all. But like Baker's hand,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: Tristan Wirfs I saw today got injured. I don't know
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: if it was a practice or something lingering with a toe.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: Something to keep an eye on. The Jeffrey Simmons momentum.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: If you look at on ESPN when I look at
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: the schedule, they have basically the cheapest price to get
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: into the game. I mean, you could go to the
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: Cleveland Saints game for $ 30. You could go to the
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: Eagles game for like $ 85. The two most expensive games
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: are the Raiders playing the Niners. Makes sense, right? Raiders
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: coming back to the Bay Area. Probably going to be
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: a lot of just people that want to go to
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: that game to see the team that they rooted for
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: forever in Oakland and Chicago. And it has nothing to
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: do with the opponents because we're playing at home. And
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: we're fucking going to win the Super Bowl. That's what
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: everyone's thinking. So the momentum, what's going to be interesting
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: about Ben Johnson is probably more than ever during his
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: short tenure as the Bears head coach, everyone, there's like
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: substance behind the hype now. And the media and everyone
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: anointing them. So this has always been like what Belichick
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: was good at. Coach Reed's good at this. Saban was
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: elite at this. is how do you kind of instill
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: a little humble pie into the building and not get
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: too high on your own press clippings, which would be understandable.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: Now it probably helps having Jeffrey Simmons who comes from
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: just a wasteland of losing to just, um, kind of
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: infuse a little life like guys, this is really sweet.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: I don't want this to end, but Tampa's defense is
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: good and they got some momentum coming in. Um, Yeah,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think I like the Bears big in
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: this game, but if you told me this game gets weird,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: I could see– it's going to be fascinating. If the
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: Bears just keep it rolling and look like they haven't
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: skipped a beat, then it shows you Ben Johnson is pretty,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: pretty dialed. Why is everyone calling for Mike McDaniel's head
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: like we forgot what he did with Tua and the
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: Miami squad? I mean, we can question many things about him,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: but coaching offense is not one of them. He even
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: won games with Tyler Huntley and Quinn Ewers. But now
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: he's an idiot and forgot how to coach offense? I
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: think people should start looking elsewhere. Also, how come no
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: one ever criticized D'Amico Ryans? Every coach in his position
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: gets crushed. But I guess he is so likable, people
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: hesitate to criticize him. CJ is balling and his defense sucks. Well,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: I'd say because D'Amico went 12-5 last year and the
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: previous year he was also in the playoffs. And I'm
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: pretty sure the previous year he was in the playoffs. Like,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: he goes to playoffs every year. Mike McDaniel's team unraveled.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: And there were stories in Miami how no one took
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: him seriously. And then this offseason, people treated him like
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: the greatest offensive coordinator in the history of the league.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: Came to the charges, they literally get worse every week.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: And his quarterback, who came off a pretty good season,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: Sam Munson, formerly a PFF who has an MVP vote,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: voted him for MVP. While I disagree, I do understand
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: some of his logic. Because Justin Herbert was awesome last year,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: given the circumstances. This year he's like unplayable. So I
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: just think that's the nature of the business. The Dolphins
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: were terrible last year. They've been terrible for a couple years.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: I just think that the mesh of Mike and Herbert,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: you just watch the Chargers play. They couldn't be any
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: worse on offense. I hear you talk a lot about
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: the stock market, real estate, and finances quite a bit.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: Do you have a personal philosophy towards building wealth? Are
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: you more of a Dave Ramsey guy or rich dad,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: poor dad kind of guy? I think a weekly segment
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: to talk some finances in the market could be interesting. Well,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: today would not be one of those because it was ugly.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: It's why you never get too high on your own supply.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: Two days ago, feeling myself. I've been doing it long
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: enough to like, I mean, I had a good day,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: like I'm sure many of you did. And today probably
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: couldn't have been much worse. I would say one philosophy.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: I'm not definitely not a Dave Ramsey guy. I would
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: not be a rich dad, poor dad guy either. I
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: would be more of a Tony Robbins said this a
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: long time, and I honestly haven't followed it closely enough
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: to invest in things that you use. And he just
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: used examples of like how many people over the last
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: 20 years have had an iPad, iPhone, a MacBook computer, AirPods.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, think how many Apple devices you have. Well,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: if you over the course of the last 10 years
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: had invested in Apple, right? If I go to Apple's
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: ticker and invest in Apple over the last 10 years,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: You'd be up 1,100%. If you did it the last
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: five years, you'd be not as crazy, 127%, which isn't
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: great given some of your other options. But I have
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: really tried to kind of subscribe more to that with
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: the big boys. I mean, not like random companies. Like
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: Shake Sack is a company that I kind of, I
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: fall on the ticker, but I'm. not investing in it.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: I don't eat it enough. Even if I did, it's
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: like the margins on hamburgers aren't high enough, even though
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: I do think it's a well-run company, but like, I
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I just, I tried like the
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: Tesla is a good example. I had never owned Tesla stock.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: clearly it had one of the great runs in the
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: history of the stock market from like 17, 18 range
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: up until a couple of years ago that once I
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: picked that thing up and I pressed a button and
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: I drove it home, I just said like, I, I
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: took capital and I invested in the stock immediately. And
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: I was actually doing pretty well up until the day
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: when it went down 10%. And obviously, you know, you just,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: if you invest in the S & P 500 or
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: the QQQs or some of the, you know, more popular ETFs,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: probably the safer way to go. And I have a
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: couple long shots. I'm a gambling man. So there are
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: definitely a couple plays that... I've also learned that companies
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know much about but I hear people talk
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: about in the business or podcasts I listen to that
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: could be big winners, and then you get involved in
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: them and they just suck. I used to ride it
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: out for much longer. Now I'll just move on. Sell
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: at a loss and pivot the money somewhere else. The
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: greatest thing the stock market has taught me is to
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: be pretty numb to money. Most successful people I've been
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: around When I was a kid, whether it was people's
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: parents or their grandparents or throughout life, I don't feel
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: like I get caught up much with money and worry
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: about it like most humans do. And I think it
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: becomes a crutch in the way... I personally... Generational wealth.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: We talk about that so much. How about just invest
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: to make money to make your life a little bit easier?
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: You don't need to be the fucking... Become the Rockefellers
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: or Elon Musk. You know, how about just double your money?
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: You know, whether that's $ 1, 000, $ 5, 000, or a million dollars.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: Whether that's over a five-year period or if you hit big,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: maybe it happens quick. Question for the back. Big 49er fan,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: I've been alive to watch them lose three Super Bowls,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: and as much as I love them being competitive every year,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: I want to see them go all in. and win one.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: I understand not totally blowing up their future, but it
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: feels like they are trying to do what the Warriors
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: and the NBA have been doing or trying to build
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: the future and win now, which feels like they contradict
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: each other. But the path to a Lombardi for the
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: Niners seems like it's right in front of them. One
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: key element to this team is Mike Evans is going
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: to have to be healthy. If Mike Evans can play
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: for them down the stretch of the season and into
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: the playoffs, assuming that, again, you can never assume, but like,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: you know, McCaffrey and Kittle and some of their other
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: wide receivers, Debo can come back, but they've got to
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: have Mike Evans. There's no replacing that. They make a
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: move for Buckner. I don't know. I would make a
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: move for another defensive lineman. Like, I would be in
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: for Khalil Mack. I saw some people like, should the
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: 49ers be in on Jonathan Taylor? It's like, they're all
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: in on Christian McCaffrey. I would not give my capital
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: up for Jonathan Daylor. If you get off of McCaffrey
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: this offseason because he's banged up and you wanted him,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: then do that there. I would do more defensive linemen.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: First of all, I love your honesty, but let's talk
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: about Bo Nix. He's frustrating, but you need to chill out. Sure,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: he's not perfect, but you love Herbert. I loved Herbert.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: This year, he's been terrible. He has good stats, then
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: sucks when the lights get bright. I will take a
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: player who is clutch over a stat stuffer. You're right.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: He misses throws in the first half. But it's clutch
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: when it matters the most. I'm a season ticket holder.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: And every time in the pisser everyone is complaining, I
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: remind everyone, it's bow time. Is that what you do
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: when you're taking a leak? Everybody, bow time. Do me
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: a favor. Quit being a woman and appreciate someone who
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: is a badass when it matters. You're not wrong, but
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: you're not right. No one can complain. No one can
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: explain it. Because you were looking at the wrong attributes.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: During the playoff game against the Bills, I knew Bo
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: was going to do it. Just like John Elway and
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. Patrick Mahomes, etc. Quit hating. I mean, that's
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: where you lose me. He's making miraculous plays, but compare
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: him to Peyton Manning and John Elway I heard, actually,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: maybe I mentioned this on the podcast a while back,
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: someone in the gym said that Bo Nix, who did
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: he say he reminded him of? Little John Elway? I mean,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Enjoy it. If you win the Super Bowl,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: it'd be one of the crazier stories of all time.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: If this guy just comes back in every game, ideally
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: against the Panthers, he doesn't have to. Have you watched
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: the Tyson doc yet on Netflix? What are your thoughts?
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: I think I mentioned this a while back. I did.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: It's one of the best documentaries I've seen. It's one
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: of the best things on TV or Netflix I've seen
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: in a long time. Incredible. Because the Tyson that I
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: grew up on... Some of my first vivid memories of
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: Tyson are his moments biting the ear off. I don't
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: really even remember him going to jail. I remember... being
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: like 10, 11 years old, him getting out of jail
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: and fighting Holyfield for an ungodly amount of money. And
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: I think in that documentary, once he got out of jail,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: they had like a $ 400 million contract set up for him.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: What I didn't appreciate about Mike Tyson that you see
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: in the documentary is clearly to be a heavyweight fighter
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: or just a boxer in general, you got to have
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: some God-given skills, which he clearly had in terms of
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: power and body type and athleticism. But he was way
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: more technically sound and just created by, what was the
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: guy's name? The old dude that coached him that died
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: when he was really young, who clearly played a pretty
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: big role. I mean, Tyson, a couple guys died early
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: on in Tyson's career. His main trainer and then like
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: his main business manager. And it just kind of unraveled
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: from there. And obviously Tyson had some demons. I mean,
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: grew up really, really in a, shitty situation. I also
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: didn't realize that Tyson just left, you know, basically the
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: New York City. I mean, he grew up in fucking poverty,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: just in the worst possible area. And then he just
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: basically moved in and lived with the trainer and some
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: other guys that boxed, like, out in the suburbs in, like, the, in, like,
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: a rural area. And, you know, it, just an all-time
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: crazy life. And then there are Other parts of the
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: story that you don't even realize about his daughter that
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: died in Phoenix on a treadmill. I mean, it was
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: just some crazy things that I didn't even know happened.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: And then at the end, he's taken like this. It's
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: not ayahuasca, but it's like ayahuasca's cousin that just freaks
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: him out. I highly recommend it. I would say he
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: was the last. There was a Tiger Woods element to
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: him when he was really young, like 19, 20, 21, 22.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: He was just literally better than everybody else. And then
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: clearly started feeling himself a little bit. Didn't have anyone
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: to kind of keep him corralled. And then the fight
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: that he lost to Buster Douglas, Bobby Brown, Whitney Houston's ex-husband,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: who's a big drug guy, was out with Tyson all night. Like,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: Tyson was getting fucked up the night before the fight
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: that he lost. And I know his thing is, like,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: everyone has a game plan before they get punched in
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: the mouth. I don't know if it was, like, well-known
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: that he was partying all night. But incredible documentary. I mean,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: it was just riveting his, I would say, early in
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: his career. The older stuff is really sad. But up
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: through the Holyfield thing, I don't know enough about boxing
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: to a strong enough opinion on the reason he bit
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: the ear. And Holyfield was, I don't know if Tyson
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: was still as good when he was fighting him, not
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: as focused, I don't know. But he kept getting headbutted
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: by Holyfield. And it drove him nuts, and then he
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: just snapped. Underrated all-time interview. Like, those are the moments. Like,
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: this stuff happened before the internet really existed. Like, can
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: you imagine the equivalent of someone as famous as Mike
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: Tyson in a fight as big as that? Him biting,
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: he bit Holyfield's ear off, and then Holyfield continued to
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: fight and then did a post-fight interview with a piece
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: of his ear gone. Just talked. It was incredible. i've
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: long been a herbert skeptic but even if you don't
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: want to put him near the top tier i know
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: he's not actually this bad what's happening to him and
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: is it fixable i mean there he sucks their offense
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: sucks uh His decision-making's terrible. I mean, he's throwing picks,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: hitting guys in stride. Yeah, I mean, we've seen a
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: lot of good players have bad years. I think I
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: used the Philip Rivers analogy. I forget what year it was,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: like 12 or 13. He had one year midway through
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: his career that was awful and then bounced back, no problem.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: So we have seen guys have terrible years and bounce back.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: I do think the coaching situation with Jim Harbaugh, it's
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: just weird. Sometimes it's hard to overcome the Chargers. And
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, Phillip's personality, a little more
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: stronger-willed human than Herbert. Like, I get people that rip
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: on Herbert saying, not that girlfriend stuff necessarily, but just,
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: you know, there's, there's an edge to a lot of
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: these guys. It doesn't always feel like he did play
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: with an edge though last year with a broken hand.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: So maybe that's unfair. I've been seeing things about Brandon.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: Are you coming back and reporting to a team? And
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: I generally believe everyone deserves second chances. As long as
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: you didn't do something insane. I know Kyle has said
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: he's kind of moved on from Brandon mentally, but do
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: you think I, you can put all the goofy stuff
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: behind them and come into Kyle's office and and apologize,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: show that he's changed his ways, and was dedicated to
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: the team? No. I don't think there's coming back from
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: saying what he said publicly over and over and over
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: for months. Everyone has a bad moment, right? Most of
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: us probably had a bad moment today, or we'll have
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: one tomorrow, or we'll have one this weekend. And then
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: you immediately, probably if it's with a significant other, if
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: it's someone in business, you say, hey, my fault or
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: I screwed up here. And you take, he just, he
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: never stopped. And when Kyle was in the car accident,
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: made some comments on top of like, they went through
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: yesterday and asked a lot of the players about the situation.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: And you could tell, I forget who reported this. Was it,
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: might've been Cone, might've been Barrows. Someone on the 49ers
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: beat was like, he was telling everyone on the team,
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: I'm coming back last year. And Kittle had, I think,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: said this over the summer, is that the crazy part
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: about it was, is before he disappeared, he had just
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: seen him training and he ran like 21 miles an hour.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: And they were excited to get him back because he's
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: a really good player. Then he disappeared. And he ghosted
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: the entire team. And then once he goes off the
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: deep end on social media, you start taking shots at Kyle,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: who the entire team loves. John Lynch, who just tried
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: to show up at his house to reach out to him,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: see if he's okay. And he took a lot of
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: shots at guys on the team. So I think, I
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: said it yesterday, there are situations where guys get in
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: trouble with heinous crimes, and it's going to sound crazy,
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: but no one on the team cares. Coaches don't care,
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: and they just look past it, and everyone just moves on,
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: and no one skips a beat. It's clearly, it's happening
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: right now. This is not one of those times. What
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: he did, I do believe this. I think what we witnessed,
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: it's like if you wanted to get into business with
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: Antonio Brown after the Raiders thing, you need to be
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: prepared that like it could get weird and it could
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: get weird fast. I saw Bruce Arians tell the story
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: the other day. He told him like, you're out of
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: the game for something stupid or just come to the sideline.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: And that's when he took off his pads and sprinted
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: through the end zone. That's like, You couldn't risk doing
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: that to your team. If you're a coach, he could
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: turn on you at any moment. Publicly. So I don't
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: think there's any returning. And Kyle even reiterated that yesterday.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: They don't want to do business with this guy. When
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: someone shows you... I think there's a balance of a
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: lot of empathy for people going through stuff. A lot
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: of people have a lot of issues and deal with stuff.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: Welcome to life. Welcome to humanity, right? But there's also
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: a fine line of like, hey, man, this guy's got
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: a lot of issues. Well, I probably don't want to
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: do business with him then. Or it's like, you know,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: she better be careful dating her, you know. It's like, well,
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: that's on you if, you know, you get in a
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: relationship or you get in a professional relationship if you
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: know some of these things. Sometimes you don't. And then
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: you're in deep and it's hard to get out, right?
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: Or it is what it is. She's the mother of
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: your children. She's just, you just got to figure it out.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: Or people have addiction that you didn't know and you're
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: in business with and you just kind of help them out.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: And then there's, if you would have known that before,
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: maybe you go, I'm avoiding this situation. And to me,
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: Brandon Ayuk is an immediate avoid. Okay, we'll end on this.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: Love the pod. I'm just curious how you got into
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: the podcast media space. I'm thinking of doing it and
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: trying to change the trajectory of my life. I played
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: some college ball. I know the game from a player's
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: perspective and from the fan's perspective. I'm curious how you
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: got into it. I've told this story before. I got
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: into radio because Guy was hosting a night radio show
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: in the Bay Area. and had me on, and then
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: it led to me just becoming a guest on the station,
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: and then we just started doing, we got a show
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: within six months, did that show for two and a half,
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: three years, and then I got into podcasting in 2016
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: when I got fired from radio. That would have been
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: about 10 years ago right now. We probably started the podcast,
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: me and Guy started the podcast probably in like September,
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: October of 16, and then Colin reached out Probably a
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: couple years later, maybe 2018-ish, and we started a Three
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: and Out podcast. I remember where I was when he
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: called me. I was at the Bay Club. It's a
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: gym in Walnut Creek. And I can't remember exactly how
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: quickly we got it fired up after that. So, I mean,
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: I've been a full-time podcaster for a decade. And I
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: would say my number one advice to anyone would be, like,
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: you got to do it. You just got to start
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: doing it and try it. And there was a time
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: I was doing this. I was a little lucky because
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: we had a radio show. So the first time I
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: ever did a podcast, we had a built-in listenership. We
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: didn't start at zero, right? 5,000 people or whatever just
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: listened to the first episode because we hadn't, you know,
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: it was a public story that our show got canceled.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: It was just, it was a unique scenario. It's not
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: like I just started podcasting from scratch. So I had
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: some reps talking into a microphone. But this was also
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: like pre-video. Um, you just kind of figure it out
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: and you just talk and you get a good feel
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: for what works, what doesn't work, what you're good at,
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: what you're not good at, things you're comfortable doing, things
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: you're not comfortable doing, but you just got to do it.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: Like that's my number one advice would just be do go,
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: you know, you got to try things. Right. So, uh,
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: you know, it's, it's easy to get stuck in the
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: idea phases and note taking phases. And eventually you just
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: got to hit record. And see what happens. And then
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: hopefully you just never know how things will go. In
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: terms of like maybe someone discovers you one day. But
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: I never even thought about that. Like I just did.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: I still think about that. Like the way I do things.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: I'm not... Matthew Perry in the documentary, which I'm only
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: like an episode and a half in, is pretty good.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: He really wanted to become famous. like really wanted to
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: become famous. He even, he like prayed about it to
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: become famous. And I think clearly some people in the media,
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: for example, like I want to be famous. I have
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: never thought that it's never crossed my mind. Like, what
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: can I do to become more famous? Like, I really
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: care about two things and I don't think it'll ever
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: change the content and the listener. And they're basically connected.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: Like what's going to be entertaining. Obviously some days are
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: better than others. I mean, there's some days I've finished.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: I'm like, that was terrible. That's, you're human. But that's
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: the only thing I worry about. And then with that
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: is the business of the show goes hand in hand
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: with that. But that consumes me every day. What I'm
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: going to talk about, what will be entertaining, what's going on. Especially,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: you know, for six months of the year, there's no
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: games going on. So, yeah. During football season, it's a
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: little bit easier, obviously. In the sense of, like, you
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: have built-in things to talk about. Before we get, so yeah,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: just let her rip, baby. Before we get out of here,
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: my couple quick predictions brought to you by my friends
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: at Pauly Market. I just, I cannot trust the Atlanta Falcons.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: I didn't trust them coming into this season. Then Penix
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: for a couple games shut me up. But I've been
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: a believer since he coming in. I know they played
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: with their food against Tennessee, looked like shit. Joe Burrow
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: made a bunch of crazy plays, won an overtime Spain
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: games are always weird I'm just taking the better team
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: here so I'm taking Cincinnati to cover this game by
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: three and a half I do think the west to
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: east coast is difficult it's just a long travel the
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: Rams lost Jalen Watson this week he's out for the
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: season They have had so many injuries. They are so
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: Puka dependent. Jaden Daniels played pretty well. The Commanders are
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: just a feisty out. So I'm getting four and a
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: half points at home. I don't feel great about this,
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: but like it's kind of just I don't have that
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: much trust in the Rams given this spot of this
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: long travel. And I would say the same thing. We
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: saw Seattle lose there. The 49ers got lucky. They got
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: the Commanders at home and they still like that game
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: was getting weird in the second half. Commanders are a
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: weird team. I think where the dust settles, they're probably
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: five or six wins. But they are going to just be,
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: if Jaden's healthy, which that elbow feels like it's snapped
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: at any moment, but if he finishes these games, they're
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: going to be in the mix. Washington, I guess I
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: would say the Rams to not cover the four and
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: a half. And then we talked about this earlier. I'm
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: just going on Dan Campbell, rallying the troops and the boys,
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: like bringing it for their guy. Because this is a really,
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: really tough spot. I would imagine they have talked about
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: it a ton this week. He's been on the forefront
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: of everyone's mind during practice, during lifting, during film session,
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: during the cafeteria. And I've always been a believer in
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: most good teams are littered with super high-level cats. Super
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: just like impressive dudes. And the Lions core is full
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: of those type guys. Goff, Amin Ra, Panay Sewell, Aiden Hutchinson,
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: Campbell's one of those guys. You know, and I just,
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: I'm a believer. So I expect them to have a
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: big week and score a lot of points. So I'm
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: going Detroit to cover the six and a half at Miami.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: The Volume.