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Framber's cross-up crisis, Rockies-Giants brawl, Shohei’s HR missile · Foul Territory

• 0:02
  Speaker 1: I feel like it was a good day for this.
• 0:04
  Speaker 1: The Tower of the Backup Catcher. There's not a chapter
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  Speaker 1: in there about what we're about to talk about. I
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  Speaker 1: hope actually neither of you have gone through. No, no,
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  Speaker 1: what we're about to talk about, right.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I think we're about to talk about. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that it would not be a good conversation.
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: It's a good book, by the way, it would not
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  Speaker 1: be in the book.
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  Speaker 2: But I appreciate the shout out for the book.
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  Speaker 1: The Talb of the Backup Catcher.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, David Ross is great in that book. Oh
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  Speaker 2: is it a different book?
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  Speaker 1: A book?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? Sorry? How how I made my money is how
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  Speaker 2: the title of that book.
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  Speaker 1: Leicester BFF. You didn't have a Lester bff crat.
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  Speaker 3: That is why I played for fourteen different organizations, nine
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  Speaker 3: different teams, and.
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  Speaker 1: No dancing, even though you would have been fantastic. Yep,
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: all right, here we go. I want to have some
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: time for this. It's not charged them ound. It's the
• 1:15
  Speaker 1: Yankees beat the Astros in the opener of the series,
• 1:18
  Speaker 1: but that's not the story. Fran Barvaldez gave up two
• 1:22
  Speaker 1: home runs to left handed hitters, which is very rare
• 1:25
  Speaker 1: for him, but that's not the story. After the Grand
• 1:28
  Speaker 1: Slammy surrendered to Trent Grisham. There was a cross up
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  Speaker 1: with his catcher, Saysar. Salas Are ninety three miles an
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  Speaker 1: hour to the ribs turned away as if he didn't
• 1:42
  Speaker 1: care that there was a cross up. Afterward, they said
• 1:46
  Speaker 1: it's all good. After chatting in the manager's office, Framber
• 1:49
  Speaker 1: said it wasn't on purpose. We have two catchers on
• 1:52
  Speaker 1: this show. It's the cross up controversy. This seems like
• 1:56
  Speaker 1: he had a hit on his catcher. Remember he gives
• 1:59
  Speaker 1: up that grand slam and it looked like saves our salads.
• 2:03
  Speaker 1: I was trying to stop.
• 2:03
  Speaker 2: Him a j from He told her to step off.
• 2:07
  Speaker 2: You see if you if you, if you run it back.
• 2:09
  Speaker 2: Salazar gives him the old universal step off signal, and
• 2:14
  Speaker 2: Frommer did not step off. He threw the pitch and
• 2:17
  Speaker 2: the volpy Volpe's like, what df was that? He shocked? Yeah,
• 2:24
  Speaker 2: uh you see salas Ar give the wave. Yeah, that's
• 2:26
  Speaker 2: the universal, don't pitch step off. Fromber says, screw it.
• 2:31
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna chuck this sinker. It's gonna go in the
• 2:32
  Speaker 2: croft for boxes for a granny. Trent Grisham's like thank you,
• 2:35
  Speaker 2: and it's almost at thirty homers by the way, and
• 2:39
  Speaker 2: then this one.
• 2:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, what happened? How does this happen?
• 2:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know. With PitchCom, I really don't know. I
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  Speaker 2: can understand there were pictures I had is I mean,
• 2:49
  Speaker 2: I don't want to underrat a part of this across
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  Speaker 2: up his Yeah, there's some very Volpe's faces money, But
• 2:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know. With pitchcomb Craft, you had PitchCom. I
• 2:59
  Speaker 2: never had PitchCom but it could happen. Octavio Dotel couldn't see.
• 3:02
  Speaker 2: So there were times when I put down two and
• 3:03
  Speaker 2: he threw a heater, but that was when you had
• 3:06
  Speaker 2: to give the old fingers. Now you just push a
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  Speaker 2: button and it says in your ear and you can
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  Speaker 2: hear it. So I don't know how there could possibly
• 3:12
  Speaker 2: be a cross up with the Pitchcolm. I don't know.
• 3:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, we don't know. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I do know it wasn't a cross up. Let's just
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  Speaker 3: be honest. Let's not let's not try to let's not
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  Speaker 3: try to mince words. Let's not try to go through
• 3:26
  Speaker 3: a translator see what the meeting was. Let's just look
• 3:30
  Speaker 3: at his reaction. The first pitch he threw was just
• 3:33
  Speaker 3: a change up that was up and away, So it
• 3:36
  Speaker 3: was a one zero count. The Yankee fans that were
• 3:39
  Speaker 3: in Houston, which they're not, you know, they're not more
• 3:42
  Speaker 3: Yankee fans in Houston than there are Astro fans. They've
• 3:46
  Speaker 3: probably settled down from at this point. The Grand Slam
• 3:50
  Speaker 3: grisham ran around the base is one of the excuses
• 3:53
  Speaker 3: of one of the people was it was loud. It
• 3:56
  Speaker 3: was loud, it was hard to hear. I never played
• 3:59
  Speaker 3: with the pitch calm, but I tried it out because
• 4:02
  Speaker 3: it was coming into the game and then I quit,
• 4:05
  Speaker 3: so I never got to use it. Yeah, I get
• 4:07
  Speaker 3: it if it's loud. If it's loud like Game seven
• 4:10
  Speaker 3: of the World Series, game seven to two outs like
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  Speaker 3: oh I can't hear, no, no, no, no, had settled down.
• 4:19
  Speaker 3: This wasn't the first pitch right afterwards. This was an
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  Speaker 3: intentional pitch. Come at me, whoever wants to come at me.
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  Speaker 3: I've never seen it. And if you tell me, if
• 4:28
  Speaker 3: you're a baseball player and you think this was not intentional,
• 4:32
  Speaker 3: please talk to me. If you're a fan of Framber Valdez,
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  Speaker 3: say it because in my opinion, I don't. I would
• 4:40
  Speaker 3: have a hard time finding a big league baseball player,
• 4:44
  Speaker 3: even a minor league baseball player, that didn't think this
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  Speaker 3: was intentional, all based on Salazar's reaction, all based on
• 4:52
  Speaker 3: Framber's reaction after he threw the pitch.
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  Speaker 2: All right, So here's my thing. I don't want to Listen,
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  Speaker 2: I can't accuse anybody of any thing. Listen, what does
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  Speaker 2: it look like? I agree? But do I know that
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  Speaker 2: there's only two people that know what pitch he called
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  Speaker 2: and what pitch he threw, and that's Salazar and Fromber.
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  Speaker 2: I think that here, here's here's what it looks like.
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  Speaker 2: He gets. First of all, Salazar tells him to step off.
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  Speaker 2: Frommer says, screw this, I'm throwing this pitch anyways. Then
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  Speaker 2: it gets whacked out of the park for a home run. Right,
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  Speaker 2: so Salesar clearly didn't want to throw that pitch. So
• 5:26
  Speaker 2: then who's Fromber mad at himself for throwing the pitch?
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  Speaker 2: Because I always told my pitchers what I put down
• 5:33
  Speaker 2: is not the end all be all. It is a suggestion.
• 5:36
  Speaker 2: I'm giving you my best suggestion. If you don't want it,
• 5:40
  Speaker 2: all you gotta do is go like this, and I'll
• 5:42
  Speaker 2: put down another sign and you throw it and if
• 5:44
  Speaker 2: it gets hit then it's on you. So Salasar clearly
• 5:47
  Speaker 2: didn't want him to throw it, he says, step off.
• 5:50
  Speaker 2: He did not. He threw the pitch whack grand slam.
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  Speaker 2: Now he changed up high and away the next pitch.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what was called in the pitch Calm again.
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  Speaker 2: Only two people know that answer, Sally and Fromber. He
• 6:03
  Speaker 2: chucked the ball and it hit Salasar, his own guy,
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  Speaker 2: not the other team, his own guy in the ribs. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: then I know this. Whenever I was crossed up by
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  Speaker 2: a picture, the first thing the picture would do is
• 6:14
  Speaker 2: say are you okay? Are you all right? Sorry? Or
• 6:17
  Speaker 2: give you the the My bad, my bad. He didn't
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  Speaker 2: do any of that. He turned around and walked away
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  Speaker 2: like okay. So not only like whether he did it
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  Speaker 2: on purpose or not, that's kind of disrespectful to his catcher,
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  Speaker 2: the guy who's back there busting his tail right cratzy,
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  Speaker 2: Like whenever a guy crossed you up. First thing what
• 6:35
  Speaker 2: they always say, I'm bad, I'm bad, Oh dude, I'm
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  Speaker 2: so sorry, my bad. I'm not bad. I couldn't see right,
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  Speaker 2: They're all that's the first reaction from every guy I've
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  Speaker 2: ever caught. So I don't know, man, but I know this.
• 6:46
  Speaker 2: It's a bad look for the Astros. And and here's
• 6:49
  Speaker 2: the thing about Salazar. What can sales Aar say? Salasar
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  Speaker 2: is a third catcher? You think Frober would have done
• 6:53
  Speaker 2: this to Martine Maldonado? What don you think Dusty had
• 6:55
  Speaker 2: him always catch from Berval does Martin? Because Martina would
• 6:58
  Speaker 2: go out there and get his ass, right Diaz Diaz
• 7:03
  Speaker 2: seems to have taken over that man, Victor. When he's
• 7:05
  Speaker 2: out there, Victor Kartini, he's not doing one of those
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  Speaker 2: What does he do it to? He does it to
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  Speaker 2: the guy who What can he say? What can sells
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  Speaker 2: or say? If he says anything, they're gonna just shove
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  Speaker 2: him out of the door. So I don't know if
• 7:16
  Speaker 2: he did it on purpose. He said he didn't, but
• 7:18
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of circumstantial evidence that looks like this
• 7:21
  Speaker 2: could have been on purpose.
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• 8:24
  Speaker 3: I thought to Houston Media or whoever was in the
• 8:26
  Speaker 3: scrum when I watched the scrum for frambur after the game,
• 8:29
  Speaker 3: I thought they did a good job. The only thing
• 8:31
  Speaker 3: that I disagree with what they didn't do, and maybe
• 8:34
  Speaker 3: they didn't it'll come out and what AJ just said
• 8:38
  Speaker 3: was more than two people have PitchCom payin you should
• 8:42
  Speaker 3: have PitchCom I'm assuming it was out two at second base.
• 8:46
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure he should.
• 8:48
  Speaker 3: There's five. I think there's five pitchcomps. There's four or
• 8:50
  Speaker 3: five that are out there. Everybody hears what pitch is coming.
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  Speaker 3: They should have gone to those guys. But you know,
• 8:57
  Speaker 3: maybe more will come out later. By this is it's
• 9:01
  Speaker 3: a bad look. And I go back to I caught
• 9:03
  Speaker 3: a guy named Juan Perez one time. He threw about
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  Speaker 3: ninety four ninety five lefty, and he crossed me up
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  Speaker 3: twice in the same game. The second time it was
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  Speaker 3: a slider that I went to go down and into
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  Speaker 3: a righty to catch, and it was ninety four and
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  Speaker 3: it missed a very very sensitive region by half an inch.
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  Speaker 3: Drilled me right and I mean missed my chest protector,
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  Speaker 3: missed my thigh like rate in the lower region. This
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  Speaker 3: guy was almost crying on the mount he felt so
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  Speaker 3: bad for crossing me up. That is the reaction that
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  Speaker 3: you get. That is the reaction you get when somebody
• 9:43
  Speaker 3: who's out there and not putting their own personal things
• 9:47
  Speaker 3: out there, not pouting because they gave up a home run.
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  Speaker 2: They feel bad for the person on their team that
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: they almost hit.
• 9:53
  Speaker 3: And this dude I'm talking about, he would he would
• 9:56
  Speaker 3: pepper dudes on the other team stare him down. He
• 9:59
  Speaker 3: was like a buck sixty. He didn't care, like he
• 10:01
  Speaker 3: didn't care about hitting somebody. But hearing about somebody hitting
• 10:04
  Speaker 3: hitting somebody on your own team, that's not the reaction
• 10:08
  Speaker 3: of somebody that it was too loud.
• 10:11
  Speaker 1: Sorry I'm not that's the question. Well, that's the question
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: for Framberg. Hey, it was an accident. How come he
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: didn't apologize, how he didn't care? Great, there's no answer
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: to that. What's the answer to that? Oh, I didn't
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: realize that he got drilled right.
• 10:27
  Speaker 2: In the ribs. I mean, Salazar went to go out
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  Speaker 2: to the mound. If you watch it, he went to
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: go out to the mound, and then he realized that
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: from ran his back to him and he was just like,
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: I ain't going out there.
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: He goes, oh, this was on purpose in his brain.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe in his brain. I can't tell you what he
• 10:41
  Speaker 2: was thinking, but I will say this, if this was
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: if there was even a thought of it being on purpose,
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: there needs to be a adults only meeting down in
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: the tunnel with Salazar and Fromber and whoever the heck
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: else needs to go down there. And I A'm saying,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Papple Bond and Harper Style and the picture,
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: but there is an adult conversation that needs if you
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: had a grown man conversation like you're trying to hurt
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: me and I'm on your team, Bro, that ain't cool.
• 11:09
  Speaker 2: I'm your teammate. I'm back there catching must of my
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  Speaker 2: ass for you. It ain't my fault. I told pictures
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: before they'd be like, I didn't want to throw that pitch. Okay,
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: shake your head, but it ain't my fault. You threw
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: a crappy pitch. That's on you. You threw the crappy pitch.
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: Not me.
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: If he throws down the middle, I can't. It's not
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: my I struck out plenty of times. My fault, But
• 11:28
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to hurt somebody on my team.
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: He cost himself a lot of money just now, I'm serious.
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: He's a free agent after this year. The Astros definitely
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: give out contracts, even to pitchers. They've given them out
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: to starters, they've given them out to relievers. He hasn't
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: gotten one. Maybe they haven't great on money. There are
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: some teams, some owners even out there who will see
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: this on social media and say, not for me.
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  Speaker 2: I'm serious about that. Yes, take your word for it.
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, right, but he's a good He's one of the
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: best free agent starters available talent.
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: Wow, this isn't the first time where he's kind of
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: lost his mind on the mount.
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: This is what I'm talking about. Though, this will cost
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: him money.
• 12:06
  Speaker 2: Crafts guarantee guaranteed.
• 12:09
  Speaker 3: How much nobody ownver Reill tell but this will cost
• 12:12
  Speaker 3: him a certain amount of money. And I know we
• 12:14
  Speaker 3: got to get to Ken, But I to me like
• 12:17
  Speaker 3: the reaction that AJ would have compared to the reaction
• 12:22
  Speaker 3: that I would have as a backup catcher. Who you
• 12:25
  Speaker 3: piss off the number one starter on your team. I
• 12:28
  Speaker 3: know Hunter Brown's the number one starter, but you piss
• 12:31
  Speaker 3: off one of the big guys on the team as
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  Speaker 3: a backup catcher. It's a way different reaction organizationally than
• 12:39
  Speaker 3: if AJ does it. I'm just saying it's a so
• 12:44
  Speaker 3: we can react to it two different ways. I'd want
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  Speaker 3: to fight the guy. I would want to punch him
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  Speaker 3: in the face underneath the underneath, the dugout like it
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  Speaker 3: makes it makes my skin boil to think that a
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  Speaker 3: teammate would do that to another teammate.
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  Speaker 1: He chucked the baseball at his teammate, period, chuck to
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: baseball at his teammate. He had a hit on his
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: teammate any game done periods.
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  Speaker 2: So that's what I meant by a grown man conversation.
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  Speaker 2: We're having a grown.
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  Speaker 1: Man conversation under the Yeah, I'll.
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  Speaker 2: Tell you what. The first thing I would do is
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: when when he turned his back on me and I'm Salazar,
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  Speaker 2: I'm rifling that song gun right at his knees. I
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  Speaker 2: mean as hard as I could throw. I'm rifling at
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  Speaker 2: his ankles, his knees. He could take at the point
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  Speaker 2: like what are you doing? Bro Like, and then there'd
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  Speaker 2: be a there'd be a like, there'd be a look
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  Speaker 2: for me, and and I would be throw whatever you want,
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  Speaker 2: I'll catch it. I don't care what you throw. I'd
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: be like, your stuff ain't that good? Throw whatever the
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: hell you want. And then the ending's over, and I'd
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  Speaker 2: go to the manager and I'd be like me or him,
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  Speaker 2: me or him and Krasty obviously couldn't do that, but
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: I'd be like me or him, get us, get one
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  Speaker 2: of us out of the game because this ain't flying.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, I don't think.
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  Speaker 3: I hope it comes across at how like fired up
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  Speaker 3: it make like it makes me like I feel like
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  Speaker 3: I'm even actually kind of holding back, to be honest,
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  Speaker 3: because I've never seen.
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  Speaker 2: We all are. I've never seen this. I've never seen this,
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  Speaker 2: but we all are. We all are because it's it's
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  Speaker 2: not something you've ever I've ever seen. I've never seen
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  Speaker 2: a guy on a team do something that looks And again,
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: I'm not We're okay. I know we're crap saying. What
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: are you saying? I can't say for certain. It's like
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: an injury. I don't know if it's someone's he never guessed.
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: I can only take a guy for what he said.
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  Speaker 2: We can speculate on what it looks like. But I
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  Speaker 2: know what it looks like. That's what it looks like.
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: That's bad. If that's if that's what happened, I'm sorry.
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: That's bad.
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  Speaker 1: Ten out of ten bad, oh, twelve out of ten bad. Exactly, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's why it leads to the show. This was one
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: of the few cases where social media all agreed. Right.
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: Social media doesn't agree on almost anything. Everyone was like,
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: what the heck was that that was intentional? And then
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: there were obviously the extreme of like I saw even
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: cut him. I'm like, they're not cutting it, But are
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: they resigning him? I don't think so.
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: The better question is the next time he starts, who's
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: who catches him?
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: Just putting saysar out there, Just say Sary, go go
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  Speaker 3: back and play with the wolves.
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  Speaker 2: No chance there is. There is not a chance in the.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: World if it's the iner Diaz. He's like, I'm here
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  Speaker 1: longer than you now, I'll be here longer than you
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: watch yourself. GARTENI I think, is.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: He ain't doing that though, to one of those I'm
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: telling you, Crat, you know this. He ain't doing that.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: He ain't doing that to Diaz, and he ain't doing
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: that to Quarantine. You know that. And I know that
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: if he wouldn't do it, because he just he wouldn't,
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: And that makes it even worse in my opinion, that
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: makes it even worse.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: I'm fine with it. Uh, we're just chit chatting. I
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: do want to get to this lies again. No, I'm
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: not White Sox twenty twenty fine, well.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: White Sox twenty nine. You said Rockies twenty twenty five too.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: They're they're around, just like I just wanted to say
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: Rockies twenty twenty five. Nothing about their results, just Rockies
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, which we are going to talk about
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: the Mariners right now. I do not like the Mariners.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: They cannot figure out winning on the road. And JP
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: Crawford post game, I watched most of that game yesterday,
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: the Junior Caminara game. He is ridiculous good. And the
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: pitch that he hit coming in as someone base loaded
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: down too and scored one true true. They also left
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: put the fire in the game with the right spire
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: the lefty to face Cameron Arow when they had Matt
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Brash warming up, and I'm like, Brash, Yes, either strikeout,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: no smokes, one pass gino and that's your ball game. Anyway,
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: the Mariners lost. They've lost thirteen of nineteen. Cratchy boy
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: cal Riley has fifty one homers, but now his team
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: has to worry about making the playoffs. And the Rangers lost,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: thankfully for them, but this is real. They cannot figured
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: it out on the road. JP Crawford said this has
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: happened the last three years now, where they get in
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: these ruts and it's spirals in August and September.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: The team that travels way more miles than everybody else
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: is getting tired in August and September. Why don't they
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: mix in some night game getaway days too, just to
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: have that for the travel.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: It's tough.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: It is a real thing.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Especially late in the year. These trips seem to be
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: a party.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: You give it every time to go to East. They
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: win one and six and the band trips in the East.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: You want them early. That's what I've been told early
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: in the year. We're throwing a curveball at you this
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: week for our arena club segment. As AJ has opened
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: up a Pokemon slap pack.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Did you say it?
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Pokemon?
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Flatman?
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: Pokemon. Don't ask me to say what that card is,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: but we're doing with that card.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: I already sold it back, baby. I bought it, and
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: then I got more money than I paid for the pack,
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: so I sold us straight back.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: You bought it for two fifty, sold it for two
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: and you can go get yourself something that you maybe
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: know how to pronounce.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Yes, I know what it is. I said it because
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: I saw certain people opening Pokemon and they're making money,
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: and guess what I got. Lucky made money.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Off of it too, exactly. But of course, if you're
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: into sports cards, that is something that you can find
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: a ton of on the Arena Club marketplace. By sell
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: slab pack trade twenty percent off your first slap pack
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: or card purchase can be had at Arena club dot com.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Slash foul and use the code foul. That's arenaclub dot com.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Slash foul and use code foul. Hey, we didn't get
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: to this yesterday, but the Cubs made a number of
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: moves over the last few days. They picked up Carlos
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Santana so he can first place first base platoon with
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Michael Bush. Santana against leftis.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: By the way, Michael Bush is having a great year.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: I don't understand, but that's what they want to do.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I agree that you're going to play Carlos Santana in
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: the postseason against the lefty.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: I want Michael Bush and lead off for me, like
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: I agree, been raking. He's got like thirty homers.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: They got Turner off of playing any positions but anyway,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: pushing him forward, and Sabali they picked up to pitch
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: out of the bullpen. Oh in Casey got optioned and
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: they called up another top prospect, Kevin ALCNTRA. But there's
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: some speculation that you know, he'll now stay under that
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: forty five day windows that he's rookie eligible next year.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Well, it's almost as if there was people out there
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: that said, when he got called up, where's he going
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: to play? And he's not going to get enough of bats?
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: And he had like twenty bats, twenty four at bats
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: I think in how many days, and he wasn't playing
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: every day.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: But it was also right before that threshold.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Yes, but also again he wasn't playing, So why was
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: he called up? Because their outfield is I mean, I
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: know Tucker sat a couple of days, but their outfield's
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: pretty set.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Played well for a couple of days when Tucker sat.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Let's give him a little.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Taste, I don't know whatever. Co Cubs go.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: There, good depth, Yeah.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Trying, they're trying.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: You'd better hope this this Tucker thing isn't isn't bad
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: because if he's out, cubs are cooked. They might be
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: cooked anyway making the playoffs and then one and Q, but.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: No organization has ever manipulated service time like the Cubs.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Chris Bryant.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: There they were the originators.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: That changed the game, that led.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Rules changed a lot of stuff. Yeah, because they made
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: the rule about rookie of the Year and all that stuff.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: He was what like three years old, best hitter in
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: spring training, ready to go, and they're like his defense, yeah.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: Defense, but fifty a year before forty homers in the
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: minor leagues.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: And then and then the exact day of the super deadline,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: they're like, his defense has been fixed, yes, cured up
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: to the show.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Now it wasn't a super too. He became
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: a super too.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: But no, it wasn't two service time. They kept him
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: a service.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, worked out for him. He ended up getting plenty
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: of money in his career. Unfortunately, has been completely irrelevant
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: for the last few seasons. My locket yesterday because Nolan
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: McLain is doing what Fernando Valezuela did in his first
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: four starts, the only two starters to be four and
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: oh with a sub one five ora twenty five plus
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: strikeouts over their first four career starts. And this is
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Cinciira became official in both leagues in nineteen thirteen, Fernando
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Mania nineteen eighty one, McLean Amania well.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Yesterday's offense picked him up because he yeah, well you
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: give up some runs.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean first inning a little Rocky didn't have
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: his breaker, changed things up, and then he started cruising again.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Ye against the Tigers team that's one of the best
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: in the American League. So you got to give him credit, Kratz.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Since they decided to call up Nolan McLain a year
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: earlier than most anticipated, the Mets are playing much better ball.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: The mess just want to win, and he's clearly solidifying
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: himself as one of those top three starters. I don't
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: care what game, I don't care what game he's starting
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: in the playoffs. For him, he's getting a start and
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: no better announcer to have. I hope people were listening
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: to the Tigers game because Jason Bennetti AJ's boy was
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: taught was said it perfectly. He was like that that
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: is a sinker, but it's like glowing like the pitches
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: he was throwing yesterday.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: It was. It was incredible.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: The variance what they call variants, slider to sinker variants,
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: like the difference they both start the same spot. It
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: was gross and Jason Bennetti encapsulated it very well. It
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: was a sinker, but it was glowing.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: It's the thing with McLean's stuff. You look at it
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: and you're like, this looks different. Yeah, how come we
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: weren't talking about this more? This guy just sneaks up
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: on the scene.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: You give up two in the first and then settle
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: down nicely.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: That was it, right, Yeah, So Mets pick up the dub.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Their offense has been on fire.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: But you know who we don't talk about for the
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Mets as a Clay Holmes. Nobody talks about Clay Holmes.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: I think he's starting tonight or today right now.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: But I'm saying for playoffs, we're talking Manaya and Singa
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: and this guy and that guy, and Peterson and McLain
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: and and all these guys. We don't even talk about
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Clay Holmes. He was thrown in the bullpen for a
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: World Series team the last three years. So to me,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: that's an easy for me, that's an easy shift. When
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: we have Carlos Mendoza on. Obviously he's not gonna say it.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: See you, Rapiel Devers trying to charge the mound, Kyle
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Freeland talking smack, no, wow, Robby didn't charge first.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Raffie didn't charge the mound. Matt Chapman and William Domas
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: charged the mound. They were Matt Chaming went after him hard.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: I was body checked in.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: That was not a whole me back.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna chat till I get you know, the cl
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Pueague thing where oh now someone's in between.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Now we're gonna do something.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: By the way, Raffie in August is like a thousand
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: slugging percentage.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: So there's that. But rafi.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Raffie's like, well, I'm gonna keep running around. Chapman's like no,
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: that ain't happening. William Thomas is like, yeah, this is
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: my chance. I mean they wanted some pieces, and there
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: was some. I hope Freeland was swinging with his right hand.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: That's all I gotta say. Well, nuke leloosh.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't know why Freeling's so mad. I mean, guys
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: hit homers and do this all the time. This is like,
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: this is not a thing anymore. This is not a
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: thing anymore. Remember we always say this, Anything is a
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: go until somebody gets their poor little feelings hurt. And
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: then then oh no, now we're gonna allowed to flip
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: bats and watch home runs. Raffie Devers does this every
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: home run he hits. This isn't the anything different than
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: what Raffie Devers does. And I don't know who on
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: the Rockies could do this, but I guarantee you somewhere
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: along the way the Rockies dude hit a homer, stood
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: there and watched and flipped his bat. I'm and I'm sorry,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: but this is not get mad at it anymore.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Not allowed anymore. If you're on the if you're.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Gonna say, let the kids play and you want this
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: and that, take your time going around the bases, don't
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: get mad. I'm sorry. I know you're frustrated, freeling, but
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: you can't get mad at this. You can't. It's just
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: not a thing anymore.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: You want to hear what each side said to state
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: their case. We can start with Kyle Freelans, because everyone
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: after the game was curious what ticked him off. It
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: didn't seem like it was anything too crazy. Here's Kyle.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I just, you.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: Know, found it extremely disrespectful to, you know, show me
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: up like that in the first inning after hitting a
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: home run, standing there watching it, taking your sweet time
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: getting down in first base. Then this league for quite
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: some time, I know he is as well. I just
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: wanted to extremely disrespect going. I felt that I need
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: to let me know about that.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: So then I'm thinking, is he not familiar with Rappie's
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: game because he went from the ALE to NL. But
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: then you get the other side of the equation because
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: the Rockies and the Giants meet up all the time.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: So Logan Webb post game was very telling on how
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: he was not surprised that this went down.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: Surprised that hasn't happened before with that guy so kind
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: of runs his mouth a lot of times, and.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: I forgot him good. So listen, if you listen, If
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: you run your mouth, you better be able to take
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: it because it's gonna come back at you. Listen to
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: someone that round. I ran my mouth and I got
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: hit fine because only one time I want to charge
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: them mountain and I did it and I and I
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: am happy that I didn't because it was Vincente Padilla
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: and he hit me twice in the same spot, within
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: like half an inch of each other. And I thought
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: about it, but then I realized my right arm was
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: known and if I went out there, I would have
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: been like Rob Mature with no no arm, So I
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: would have probably got my ass kicked. So I did it.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: But listen, somebody that's been thrown at and I run
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: my mouth. There was a lot of times where I
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: deserve to get hit. Fine, I took it. But then
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: if I hit a home run, because there was times
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: there was dudes that hit me and then I took
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: him deep, then I was gonna watch it. And they
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: knew that's fine. I understood. You strike me out and
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: you fist pump me and I get you. I'm gonna
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: go right back at you. That's fair. But if this
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: is true what they're saying. Again, I'm not saying it's true.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: But if this logan web said he runs his mouth,
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: then Devor hits his home run, you know what, I
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: can't say anything. Jose Lima, when he was the first
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: one to kind of do the whole shenanigans. I talked
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: to him. He goes, poppy, I strike you out, I'm
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: gonna dance. You hit a home run me, you can
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: pimp it because I understand it goes both ways. And
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: he was right. Listen, I ran my mouth, I got hit.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: I understood it. But then if I got you, oh,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: I was gonna get you.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: So you would say this to Kyle Freeland if you
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: were playing against him, Hey, dude, it goes both ways.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Not that Kyle Freeland's a big celebrator.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, yeah, but again I don't know, but
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: there's if the Giants are saying he talks a lot
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: and then again, but in today's game, it's different. Rob
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: never sits the home run, stands there and watch it.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: That's what he does. He's been doing this his whole career.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Why are we talking? Next time he comes up smoking?
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Can we talk?
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: But why even smoke him?
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: If I don't know?
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Always does and the.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: One is talking due as he's running around the Oh,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: you're telling him, hey, you know, I don't like that.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: You're saying you want to fight, make a better patch,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: but also you're basically saying you want to fight. And
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: it's funny.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: They made exactly the best part of this is Raffie
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Devers had to play third base. After all these dudes
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: got kicked. He played third base. They did Devers play
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: third bag? You aget Devers to play third base, get
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: the whole team kicked out, and Devers has to go
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: play third The Red Sox didn't try that one.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Freedlan Freedlan felt like he was disrespected. He was like,
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: you hit a home run off me in the first
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: inning and you watch it like Kyle Freeland's giving up
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: twenty home runs before yesterday's game, like And he also
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: said he took his took his time, like do we
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: need a do we need a pitchclock? Do we need
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: a running clock?
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: What is what is too much time to watch it?
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: What is taking your time running the basis? Like is
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: that the is there a prerequisite? I just I think
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: I think Kyle Freelan was clearly something set the team off.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: They were prepared to be set off and prepared to be,
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: you know, maybe more chirpy. If he's chirping, then the
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: other team's chirping. And for a domis and and Chapman
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: to both come out there like they did, that is
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: that's rare to see that reaction was not unwarranted because
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: he wasn't even he wasn't even like like if he
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: was physically assaulting Devors, That's what I would expect the
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: reaction to be. Somebody come out and push the guy,
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: you know, someone else come out and body him up
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: and then throw punch at Like No, it was like
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: it escalated quickly, and I think it's because everybody was
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: probably more on edge.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: It's still dog days, even though it's September, it is
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: dog days.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: But again, I don't know. I mean, like Conkretsa, what's
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: the protocol? Do you do you have it? Do you
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: have to put a timer up there for how fast
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: you have to run around the bases?
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Was fine?
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: I know, that's what I'm saying. I don't know. I
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: don't know what the disrespect came from. What was the
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: disrespect because he stood there and watched his homer.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: No, to me, it's like a get off my lawn
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: old school mix that I'm unfamiliar with.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Now it's not it's not a thing anymore. Listen, I
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: was as big in that as as now. I don't
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: care because it's like whatever, do whatever. You want to
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: have fun, go play the game.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: But the kids play right, said even he didn't look
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: at the other he.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Didn't look at it, He didn't look at free limit
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: say anything. He just stood there and watched his.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Homer, which is what it was, A nice homer, left
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: on left, nice homer.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: I am definitely more in the old school, and I'm
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: not like let the kids like it's not just run
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: them up, Like, but Devers didn't stand at home plate
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: and like pretend he had a rocket and like.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Like that would be awesome. Think it is bad and
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: make a rocket launcher and gone.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: If if there's one, that's my second favorite celebration, if
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: it ever happens, And my first favorite one is somebody
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: hits a nuke, takes their bat and snaps it over
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: their leg. It looks at the picture and goes, that's
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: all that one had and then runs the basis that
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: would be bossed.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: So if anybody wants to pull that off, nobody's gonna
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: do that because you just did a homer with a bat.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Why would you want to break about you just hit
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: a homer with because it would be the mega flex megaflex. Yeah,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: there's only a couple of times in my life where
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: I've gone to the plate and I've tried, literally tried
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: to hit a home run and it worked, and it
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: was usually after a dude hit me. Okay, yep, there
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: was usually a there's a I can name about three
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: instances where dudes hit either threatened to hit me, or
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: hit me, and then from that point on it was like,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: all right, now I'm lucked. Do you fn And I'm
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: trying to take you deep And it happened. You know,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: there was times where it didn't work out, but the
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: times that it did, they got a long trot around
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: the base.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: It happens, it happens.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: I got thrown at him, back to back pitches. This
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: was in the bushes, back to back pitches. He missed,
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: Umpire came out, warned him.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Next pitch. I was like, there's no way he's ever
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: even coming close to inside.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: So I was looking for a fastball away and I
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: thought I caught him to right field and I stood
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: in the box, flipped my bat and it hit the
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: wall and I was like, ah, then you have to
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: run really hard to get the second.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Yes you do, Yes you do. You got to make
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: up for that. Lastly, the Giants have won nine of ten.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Some people online are like, they're playing different. I'm like,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: all right, they're playing meaningless games. But okay, they're different.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: They're at the same level as they're five games, five
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: games out. I got it. They're playing nicely. But yeah, Giggy,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: thank you, all right?
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: How many games on the world card?
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Five the National League?
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: I'm it's over unless the Padres continue to get every
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: guy hurt in completely.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: I still think they don't.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Lead over two teams. I don't think it's happened.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: No way it's done. But it's a cute finish. It's
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: a cute finish for San Francisco. They'll lose a few
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: spots in the draft. I mean, sorry, the season's over,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: but they're providing fireworks.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: And by the way, if the Rangers would have won
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: last night, I would have thought I would have said,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: all right, they've they've they're going to do this.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Not good. The news on Roman Anthony from Alex Cora,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: who did his w e I appearance on the radio.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: It could be four to six weeks for the Roman
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Era left oblique strain for him. See exited yesterday's game.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: It's called tightness now it's a strain, lead strain. Yeah,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: not good, not good. Remember he missed what a couple
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: of games with the ACT and then after the game
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: astraight he was like, no, this is not the this
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: is this is not good.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: You never had one of these. You don't even understand.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: How bad it is, how much, how much it hurts.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't do anything. You can't breathe, you already breathe.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: You just like, don't move, don't left, don't sneeze, don't cough.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: You'd like every every move is oh, and you're afraid
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: you're gonna hurt it again.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: They tell you to do nothing.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: You're literally like no, no quick movements, no, like it's
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: definitely not doing crunches anytime soon.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Super common in MLB two crats. It's a very common injury.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: It is. It's weird.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: It shows you how like no other sports, you're getting
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: oblique injuries. But the boys are the boys are spinning
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: on it. It's tough to see. It's tough to see,
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: especially when he was like really like he had his
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: feet on the ground. For this team, we just talked
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: about yesterday's face and lefties like he's an everyday guy.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Tough loss, tough loss with this team. They don't see
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: any other sport because there's no other sport. We're twisting
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: as much in the torque under the torque on your
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: obliques and then it's also he or his left one,
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: so that's stopping right, that's a stop one. I think
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: that where should you do your front one? I remember
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: what I did? Mind I can tell you the pitch
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: I did on I was like, this is different than
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: anything I've ever done in my life.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: It's September third from now.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Six weeks puts them into the playoffs.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: The playoffs.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Mid four weeks puts them into the playoffs.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Six weeks put you into the ALCS.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a big blow for the Red Sox, probably
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: the division because you know the boys will come to get.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: For That's a joke from yesterday's show. In case you
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: were unaware, there's been an issue lately with people that
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: catch our clips. Some people catch our clips on YouTube
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: and then they get confused by things. Like one guy
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: was saying, how it was rude that I was reading
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: out the Blue Jay schedule and I should just know
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: it and talk about it that way. Every two hour
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: show we read things out. You're catching a five minute.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: Clip cleaning up Scott.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: So dirty.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: How do you not know every team schedule?
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: That's when one guy said, don't waste money time, nice
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: and simple, Hot corner show Heyo Tani appreciation a few minutes.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Forty six home run was one hundred and twenty miles
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: an hour off the bat and ninety nine miles an
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: hour in on the fastball from Bubba Chandler giving up
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: his first home run in the big leagues. Welcome to
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: the big leagues. I still want Tony. You're right, the.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Teams they did, don't And by the way, Chandler's two,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: and oh.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Yes, Bubba Chandler, why.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Not start him? Well, Lozinski started and then Chandler.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Don't get me started on that. But show hey at
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: average exit Vello ninety seven point three on pitches ninety
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: five miles an hour or greater and second best in baseball.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: His sluging percentage is six seventeen on pitches ninety five
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: miles an hour or greater. That is best in the
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: National League. The dude handles v low. He's a machine.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Hards wanted to give me some appreciation, especially in especially
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: in nitre zone down in.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: His bad spot to throw. Yeah, the whole totany is
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: away from what I've seen. You got it. You kind
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: of got to get it up in a way.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: But down in away breakers, right.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Change it yeah, left on left breakers of course, yeah,
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: don't go down and in Bubba Chandler, he didn't mean
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: to throw it there, right, and it got the positive.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: But what okay, So Bubba Chandler. We've gone into this.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: But if he's start, if he's sting.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: You can't get started.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Why don't we just start him in the game. Why
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: not just start him in the game.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: The Dodgers would do that. They did that with Showe
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Hey Otani, who was building his way up right now.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: He is trying to be a five maybe even six
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: inning guy heading into the playoffs, which would be great
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: for Dodgers fans. But what did they do when they
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: were working Otani back?
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: They started him.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Here's an inning, here's two innings, et cetera.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Not a fair comparison. Why when did it come to
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Kate Horton? Who because O'tani has to start so we
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: can stay in the game as DH so not a
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: fair comparison. But cratch, what did the What did the
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Cubs do with Kate Horton? They threw him to the
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: walls except for his first start. We didn't want to
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: pitch against Mett's first inning. They let him start. If
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: he's gonna be a starter, let him start. Not even
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: if he's gonna be I don't care what he's gonna be.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Make the transition easy.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: The exact the exact reasoning was to ease him into
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: the big leagues.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: To ease him into major league.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: Baseball, he has done the exact same thing his entire career.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Start.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: Let him start in the big leagues. That's the easiest
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: way to me. This is somebody who never played, never
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: got a big league debut, making this decision. In my opinion,
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you can remember your debut, AJ,
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: but if they said, hey, you know what you're starting tomorrow, AJ, Congratulations,
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: welcome to the big leagues. You're playing left, there would
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: be a little bit more nerves. I'm just saying, he's
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: warming up in the middle of the game, and I
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: know they're giving him a runway, easy, clean innings. No way,
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: he's sitting down in the bullpen, going this.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Feels just like the minor leagues. I got this, no problem. No,
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: he's in a.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: Bullpen, Like what if I long toss? What if the
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: ball that I throw goes out into the field. They're
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: not setting him up for success.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: In my opinion, it's a loser move by a loser
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: organization right now. It's just simply put.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: As a kid say, as a kid, say they're doing
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: too much. Just don't do too much. Just just let
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: him go.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: One minute left in this segment, sho he Tani another MVP.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Ye hard to argue with him. In the National League? Who
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: else is there?
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Nobody? For me?
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Is there anybody else?
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's close this year.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: There's nobody in that league that's close. Schwarber would be
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: the next closest to me. Schoreber's fun, it's a fun
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: thing to talk about. But he's the close to me.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: He's the closest.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, can't you make a case that Trey Turner
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: is having a better season than Shoreber. He's been one
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: of the best defensive shortstops in the game this year.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: He's the complete package, hits, I guess, scoring runs, set
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: in the table, the whole deal, no crats if you're
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: looking at.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: Could end up Schober could end up with one hundred
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: and twenty RBI. I mean fifty five dingers, you know,
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: fifty eight dangers like he could. He could do some
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: really special things to get votes. Is yeah, is Turner
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: having a better year? Nobody's more valuable than what Schreber's
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: on that team in my opinion.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Number forty for Junior Camerinara. This is data dish powered
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: by Inside Edge, so Inside Edge says that Junior Camerinara
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: has a hard hit rate of sixty eight percent against
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: pitchers who have thrown at least eighty pitches in a
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: game this season, second best in the American League. Junior
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: hit ball hard.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: No one's even talking about it.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Nobody is talking.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Is he rookie? Is he a rookie? No, that stinks.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: He called it. He got forty six days last year,
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: stupid race.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Not a rookie. Let's see how many how many games
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: do you think he logged last year.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: I wonder if this translates. I wonder if this translates
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: over the next year. Like it seems like he's not
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: just picking on guys that are throwing softer once they
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: hit their eighty pitches. He's seen these guys. He's still
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: young in the league. Now he goes back and sees
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: him again. Second time he gets to face a guy.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Be interested.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: Maybe there's an uptick forty plus home runs for next year,
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: a hundred, he's got a month agost.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: His defense has gotten much better over the course of
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: the year too. I mean he is really doing it
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: on base percentage, if you want to look at something,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: I mean two ninety nine, but he's a slogger forty
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: and one hundred. He's driving in runs. I'll take the
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: two ninety nine three four. Actually I messed up. Last
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: year was two ninety nine three oh four.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Still yeah, i'll take I'll take forty in one hundred.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Agreed. So he had one hundred and seventy seven played
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: appearances last year, and technically he got called up in
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: twenty three for seven games thirty six played appearances. But
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: I guess last year, and I think it's forty five days.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: I want to say not games. So then he probably
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: exhausted it, but not by much last year. Damn raised
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: you could have gotten yourself a pick. But good for them.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: They called him up, they let him do his thing,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: and now he gets a full year here this year.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: And you should hand that man an extension if he
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: wants one. That's the guy he got too expensive too late.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: It's not too late. They just the way because of
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: the Wander situation. You can't just not sign it. I
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: think that it just has to be post sale. They're
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: not going to do anything until the sale is complete.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Then they can for that. If and when it's true
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: to kratsats, what do you have for us today?
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Just really the most random hat I could have picked up.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: I like it. Guardians, great logo fell short this year?
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Great logo.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: You don't like it? I feel like it has like
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: an eighties nineties video game.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: I think they did a good job.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, I really like the Indians logo, but I
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: think they did a good job for what they.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Had, Yeah, for what they were working with. Do you
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: like the name Guardians?
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: No? I don't either. I remember when they announced that.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: I was like, that's what we're going with. You had
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: a chance to do whatever you want.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: They should have done the Steamers or the Spiders.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a cute story behind the whole Guardian thing, right,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: the bridge whatever. But I don't know how many kids
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: are actually looking that up. Non kids don't look up
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: anything anyway.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: When Guardians of the Galaxies.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Do people even know how to write?
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: And they took it from a roller derby team.
• 44:35
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