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Sharri | 21 January · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Live on Sky News. This is Sharry.
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Speaker 2: Oh Andrew's sending love to you and your family. Very
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Speaker 2: sad day, Well, good evening everyone. At Massive Show tonight,
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Speaker 2: Peter Dutton and Chris Minns speak directly to you about
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Speaker 2: the wave of domestic terrorism rocking our streets. The shocking
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Speaker 2: firebombing of a childcare center has today terrified Australian parents.
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Speaker 2: New South Wales Premier Chris Mins on My Show Tonight,
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Speaker 2: announces tough new laws. He says these attacks begin with
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Speaker 2: words and the hate preachers and the pro Palestinian activists
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Speaker 2: won't be able to get away with hate speech against
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Speaker 2: Jews any longer. Mins expresses regret that he didn't take
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Speaker 2: this action, he didn't introduce these laws sooner.
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Speaker 1: That's coming up in a moment.
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Speaker 2: Also tonight, on the show, I speak exclusively with well
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Speaker 2: perhaps Australia's next Prime Minister, Peter Dutton. He talks about
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump's anti woke agenda and says that if he
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Speaker 2: were Prime Minister, he'd have a better relationship with the
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Speaker 2: President than Albanezi. He also slams the Prime Minister for
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Speaker 2: the escalating anti Semitic attacks our country is experiencing. Peter
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Speaker 2: Dutton's explosive interview coming up. But now let's start by
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Speaker 2: talking about Donald Trump's big moves on his first day
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Speaker 2: in office, from having only two genders to withdrawing from
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Speaker 2: the Paris Climate Accords, Trump gave a powerful, strong, and
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Speaker 2: inspirational speech. He told the American people that nothing was impossible.
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Speaker 3: Many people thought it was impossible for me to stage
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Speaker 3: such a historic political comeback. But as you see today
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Speaker 3: here I am the American people have spoken. I stand
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Speaker 3: before you now as proof that you should never believe
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Speaker 3: that something is impossible to do. In America. The impossible
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Speaker 3: is what we do best.
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Speaker 2: Trump has certainly faced major obstacles to get to this moment.
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Speaker 2: Multiple civil and criminal cases mounted against him, The media
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Speaker 2: and the judicial system came after him with everything they had.
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Speaker 2: Yet as he was sworn in as the forty seventh
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Speaker 2: president of the United States of America, there was no
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Speaker 2: doubting he prevailed over his enemies and critics. In an
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Speaker 2: emotional comment, Trump said he believed God had saved his
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Speaker 2: life after that near miss assassination attempt just a few.
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Speaker 3: Months ago in a beautiful Pennsylvania field and assassin's bullet
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Speaker 3: ripped through my ear but I felt then and believe
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Speaker 3: even more so now that my life was saved for
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Speaker 3: a reason. I was saved God to make America great again.
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Speaker 2: It was a day of major policy announcements, a changing
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Speaker 2: of the world order in Washington, out with the woke ideology,
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Speaker 2: and a new era of common sense with a priority
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Speaker 2: on national security.
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Speaker 1: Trump said that this election.
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Speaker 2: At least he believes, was the most consequential in the
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Speaker 2: history of the country now. In a controversial move, Trump
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Speaker 2: pardoned nearly all January sixth defendants.
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Speaker 1: That's one thy five hundred.
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Speaker 2: People who stormed the US capital. He will withdraw the
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Speaker 2: US from the Paris Climate Accord. He says America will
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Speaker 2: take back the Panama Canal. He declared that official policy
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Speaker 2: will recognize only two genders, a man and a woman.
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Speaker 1: He delayed a.
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Speaker 2: Ban for seventy five days on TikTok. He declared a
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Speaker 2: legal immigration at the Mexico border a national emergency. He
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Speaker 2: designate aided criminal cartels as terrorist organizations. He put a
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Speaker 2: freeze on government hiring and ordered all federal workers to
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Speaker 2: return to full time work in person. He also signed
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Speaker 2: an order banning government censorship.
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Speaker 3: After years and years of illegal and unconstitutional federal efforts
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Speaker 3: to restrict free expression. I will also sign an executive
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Speaker 3: order to immediately stop all government censorship and bring back
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Speaker 3: free speech to America. Never again will the immense power
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Speaker 3: of the state be weaponized to persecute political opponents. Something
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Speaker 3: I know something about not allow that to happen. It
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Speaker 3: will not happen again under my leadership.
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Speaker 2: The President also pledged to write the injustices relating to
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Speaker 2: the COVID pandemic.
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Speaker 3: This week. I will reinstate any service members who were
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Speaker 3: unjustly expelled from our military for objecting to the COVID
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Speaker 3: vaccine mandate with full back pain.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 2: At one point, Trump stood beside Noah Agamani, who was
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Speaker 2: held hostage in Gaza. He also had there with him
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Speaker 2: other hostages and family members, and this was a clear
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Speaker 2: symbol of Trump's solidarity with Israel. He also said, and
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Speaker 2: another topic that traveling to Mars, this is a long
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Speaker 2: held goal of Elon Musks, was now back on the
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Speaker 2: official agenda, and.
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Speaker 3: We will pursue our manifest Destiny into the Stars, launching
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Speaker 3: American astronauts to plant the stars and stripes on the
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Speaker 3: planet mars Es.
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Speaker 2: Trump also revoked nearly eighty orders from the Biden administration
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Speaker 2: that he said were radical and destructive, and he said
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Speaker 2: America had been in decline from an establishment that extracted
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Speaker 2: power and wealth from our citizens, while pillars of society
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Speaker 2: lay broken and incomplete disrepair. The new president accused his predecessor,
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Speaker 2: Joe Biden, of weakness and treachery, and claimed he prioritized
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Speaker 2: the rights of illegal criminal aliens and wasted money defending
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Speaker 2: foreign borders instead of America's own.
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Speaker 1: And Trump didn't hold back when.
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Speaker 2: He spoke about how he thought Biden had missed lad America.
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Speaker 4: Did you know that Biden, while I was making my speech,
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Speaker 4: pardoned his whole family, the brother.
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Speaker 5: The whole deal was bardon.
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Speaker 4: Can you imagine that.
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Speaker 2: As he just said there in the dying hour of
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Speaker 2: his administration, Biden pardoned his own family members for any
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Speaker 2: crimes they may have committed since twenty fourteen. He also
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Speaker 2: pardoned outrageously Anthony Fauci. I've written and spoken an enormous
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Speaker 2: amount about Anthony Fauci's role in the COVID nineteen pandemic.
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Speaker 2: The crux of the matter is he privately knew American
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Speaker 2: funding may have created the coronavirus, finding that happened under
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Speaker 2: his watch and in spite of an official ban.
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Speaker 1: He knew this right from the start.
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Speaker 2: We have the emails, Yet publicly Fauci claimed a laboratory
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Speaker 2: leak was a conspiracy theory, and he took every effort
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Speaker 2: to silence scientists and journalists and make sure they didn't
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Speaker 2: pursue this matter. And now Biden has pardoned him ahead
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Speaker 2: of any official invests mistigations that are sure to take
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Speaker 2: place during the Trump administration.
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Speaker 1: This is corruption, This is disgraceful.
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Speaker 2: Now there's much to be hopeful about under the Trump administration.
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Speaker 2: We should see a return to America occupying the role
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Speaker 2: of a leader of the free world. It's a space
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Speaker 2: that the US has abandoned under Joe Biden. There should
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Speaker 2: also be a return to peace through strength.
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Speaker 1: Trump has a clear eyed.
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Speaker 2: View on terrorism, on who the enemies are and who
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Speaker 2: is fighting for the right of all of us to
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Speaker 2: live in peace, free from violence and intimidation. Trump steps
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Speaker 2: into this role when Israel has been single handedly fighting
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Speaker 2: terrorism for more than fifteen long months. Benjaminette and Yah,
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Speaker 2: who has led this fight, this war with one arm
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Speaker 2: tied behind his back as Biden worked against him, depriving
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Speaker 2: him of the necessary military support and urging him at
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Speaker 2: every step of the way to stop fighting.
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Speaker 1: The terrorists have a ceasefire.
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Speaker 2: Don't kill in ISRAELA, leave Hesbella alone, Go lightly on Tehran.
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Speaker 2: This isn't the attitude needed when bloodthirsty terrorists kidnap two
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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty innocent people, including a baby, and.
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Speaker 1: Murder thousands more.
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Speaker 2: Trump knows what's right and wrong, and hopefully in time
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Speaker 2: he'll take on the ultimate culprit and financial backer of much.
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Speaker 1: Of this terror, Iran.
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Speaker 2: This global international leadership on this and other areas is
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Speaker 2: desperately needed. Anthony Albinizi and Penny Wong. And Pennywong attended
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Speaker 2: the inauguration. They don't see eye to eye with Trump.
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Speaker 2: The Australian Labor Government's values and policy ideals are fundamentally
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Speaker 2: different from that of the Trump administration, not just on Israel,
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Speaker 2: but on China, on national security, on climate change, on
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Speaker 2: gender and diversity. It seems the age of Woke is
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Speaker 2: finally coming to an end and we can only hope
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Speaker 2: this movement sweeping the globe would be replicated in Australia too.
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Speaker 2: Now we're seeing a wave of domestic terrorism unfold in
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Speaker 2: Sydney and Melbourne, with synagogues, homes, cars and restaurants vandalized, torched,
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Speaker 2: satellite fire bombed and attacked. This took an even more
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Speaker 2: dangerous and frightening turn this morning with the overnight firebombing
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Speaker 2: of a childcare center in Maroubra in Sydney's East. Let
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Speaker 2: me say that again, a childcare center. The daycare center
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Speaker 2: was torched just before one am, with vandalism and anti
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Speaker 2: Semitic slurs on the building. Now, this is a new
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Speaker 2: level of cruelty, targeting a place where children play. It's
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Speaker 2: only meters from a synagogue and there was significant damage.
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Speaker 2: The attack finally forced the hand of the Prime Minister,
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Speaker 2: but the antisemitism genie is well and truly out.
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Speaker 1: Of the bottle now.
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Speaker 2: Albanezey said today that he'd hold a national cabinet and
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Speaker 2: anti Semitism. He said that kind of in passing this
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Speaker 2: morning and then he held it this afternoon. It was
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Speaker 2: a knee jerk reaction rather than giving the premiers proper
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Speaker 2: time to consider and put forward thoughtful submissions. Unlike Albanezi,
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Speaker 2: New South Wales Premier Chris Mins cares deeply about this hatred.
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Speaker 2: When I went to see him today, he said he
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Speaker 2: felt terrible this was all happening under his watch. The
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Speaker 2: personal comment to me, I said to him in the interview,
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Speaker 2: what about the hate preachers who are given the green
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Speaker 2: light to make derogatory and racist remarks against Australian Jews.
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Speaker 2: What about the pro Palestinian activists who get away with
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Speaker 2: racist chance calling for not just the death, the massacre
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Speaker 2: of Jews in Arabic and in English. Well, Chris Mins,
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Speaker 2: he cares, and he is now pledging new laws to
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Speaker 2: deal with all of this. He announces them for the
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Speaker 2: first time on my show Now have a Look, Premier.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time today. I wish
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Speaker 2: I didn't have to interview you on this topic. What's
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Speaker 2: your reaction to this attack on a childcare center overnight?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's good to see you too, Sharry. I'm sorry
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Speaker 5: it's under these circumstances. I mean, I'm horrified by it.
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Speaker 6: I think it's my worst fears and many people in
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Speaker 6: the community's absolute worst fears to see barbaric acts from
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Speaker 6: complete animals. I mean, I don't want to put too
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Speaker 6: fine a point on it. Complete bastards that would burn
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Speaker 6: down on a childcare center because it's linked to the
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Speaker 6: back fences linked to a synagogue in Eastern Sydney and Maruba.
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Speaker 6: I'm completely horrified by it. I think it's antithetical to
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Speaker 6: everything that's been built up in Australia and I can
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Speaker 6: completely understand why the Jewish community in New South Wales
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Speaker 6: feels under siege. These attacks are are continuing and I'm
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Speaker 6: devastated by it.
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Speaker 5: But the resilience of both.
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Speaker 6: The community and the government is unbowed and we will
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Speaker 6: catch the people who are responsible for it.
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Speaker 2: The attacks do seem to be escalating twenty twenty five.
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Speaker 1: Same old story.
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Speaker 2: Do you wake up every morning like we do and
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Speaker 2: you just a horrified to think of what's happened overnight?
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Speaker 6: They are escalating and I think it's important I say that.
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Speaker 6: I don't want anyone to have the impression that we're
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Speaker 6: trying to sweep this under the carpet or suggest that.
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Speaker 5: It's not a major issue.
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Speaker 6: This is the central priority of the government at the
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Speaker 6: moment and New South Wales Police we are horrified by
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Speaker 6: it and the escalating nature of the violence these hate
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Speaker 6: crimes could see. I mean, I don't want to speculate
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Speaker 6: on a terrible crime, but obviously that's what we're concerned about,
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Speaker 6: so I mean, we watch it very closely. My wife
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Speaker 6: said to me this morning as I got up for
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Speaker 6: work and the reports came through of another fire, that
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Speaker 6: it was heartbreaking for the city. We're all devastated by it,
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Speaker 6: and I hope that the Jewish community in particular knows
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Speaker 6: that the vast majority of people that live in New
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Speaker 6: South Wales are with them in solidarity against this horrific crime. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I think that's right. That's the perception I have as well.
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Speaker 2: You know, we just both spoke about how they are
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Speaker 2: escalating in frequency and severity.
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Speaker 1: Are you concerned or do you agree with.
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Speaker 2: Figures like Alex Ripchen and also David Ossip who are
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Speaker 2: worried that this could lead to a loss of life.
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Speaker 6: Look, I am worried about it. I think we should
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Speaker 6: should have some candy here. But I do want to
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Speaker 6: say that the New South Wales police and the government
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Speaker 6: are committed to putting the resources in place to conducting
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Speaker 6: a full in investigation and that is yielding results as
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Speaker 6: we speak, and I can promise the community in New
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Speaker 6: South Wales that this is a major police operation twenty
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Speaker 6: detectives are working full time in Stripeforce PERL.
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Speaker 5: That will be the auxiliary.
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Speaker 6: Will be increased in the coming days, and that Stripeforce
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Speaker 6: will be increased. So is that we can have the
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Speaker 6: resources in place to fully investigate these crimes. But look,
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Speaker 6: I am concerned about it. As I said, I don't
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Speaker 6: want to downplay it. This is a major, major issue.
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Speaker 2: We've seen the Prime Minister finally and relatedly call a
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Speaker 2: national Cabinet on anti Semitism. What issues do you think
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Speaker 2: need to be put on the table and discussed.
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Speaker 6: Well, Look, one of the advantages of the Federation is
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Speaker 6: that you can learn from other states, and WA in
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Speaker 6: particular has very strong anti hate speech laws. Now, I
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Speaker 6: regret we looked at these laws last year, changing them,
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Speaker 6: strengthening them, ensuring that it didn't require private prosecution from
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Speaker 6: concerned citizens, but rather the state making responsibility for someone
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Speaker 6: who's trying to sow hate.
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Speaker 5: And division in our community.
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Speaker 6: I regret we didn't change the laws then, but I've
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Speaker 6: learned our lesson. We are looking at other jurisdictions we
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Speaker 6: want to introduce those laws. And the reason for it, Jari,
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Speaker 6: is really straightforward, and that is I don't think that
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Speaker 6: these anti Semitic attacks begin with someone committing a violent
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Speaker 6: offense I think they commit. I think they begin with words,
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Speaker 6: in particular racist words and vitriolic words that then sparks
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Speaker 6: something in a bad actor who goes and commits a
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Speaker 6: terrible offense. So we want to nip it in the
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Speaker 6: bud at the beginning.
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Speaker 5: We'll do that with law.
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Speaker 2: And we're seeing this sort of language both by hate
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Speaker 2: preachers but also pro Palestinian marches on the streets where
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Speaker 2: we see language that actually calls for a massacre against Jews.
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Speaker 2: It's in Arabic these chants. Do you think that needs
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Speaker 2: to be dealt with it and put a stop to look.
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Speaker 6: Absolutely, any any call to violence in our community on
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Speaker 6: the basis of division and hatred needs to be confronted.
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Speaker 5: By civic society South Wales.
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Speaker 6: I mean, I've said this many times, but we don't
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Speaker 6: have the same free speech laws that they have in
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Speaker 6: the United States. They're far stronger, they're tougher, and I
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Speaker 6: don't make any I don't make any excuses for that.
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Speaker 6: I think the reason is because we live in a
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Speaker 6: multi cultural community. We except people from around the world
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Speaker 6: regardless of their faith. But if you come to our country.
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Speaker 6: Then there are rights and there are responsibilities, and the
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Speaker 6: responsibility to respect your fellow Australian is paramount. And if
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Speaker 6: we need laws in place to make that point even
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Speaker 6: more self evident, that's exactly what we'll do.
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Speaker 2: It feels like there has been a green light given
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Speaker 2: to the hate speech from some of these hate preachers.
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Speaker 1: Do you think that's been the case?
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Speaker 6: Look, I hope not, and I think it's incumbent upon
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Speaker 6: political leaders civic leaders to say that it's never justifiable.
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Speaker 2: I mean, there's been no laws used against any of
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Speaker 2: the hate preachers who are speaking an extremely offensive language
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Speaker 2: about Jews.
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Speaker 6: Though. Look, the point here, Shahi is that it shouldn't
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Speaker 6: be politicians that pick a prosecution or a private individual.
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Speaker 5: It should be the state.
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Speaker 6: And since similar laws have been in place in Western Australia,
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Speaker 6: there's been fifty two prosecutions against individuals who weren't taking
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Speaker 6: the extra step of promoting violence, but were in fact
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Speaker 6: promoting hate towards someone's race. And I think we can
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Speaker 6: have similar laws here in New South Wales. So is
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Speaker 6: that we can stop it before it happens now? I
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Speaker 6: can't promise, No political leader can promise, and then to
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Speaker 6: sit an end sorry to anti Semitic attacks. Unfortunately, there's
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Speaker 6: some terrible, terrible people in our community. But what I
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Speaker 6: can do is say that we will put all of
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Speaker 6: our resources as well as changes to the law to
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Speaker 6: keep the community safe, so that you're.
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Speaker 2: Just announcing this now that you're going to look at
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Speaker 2: this tough new laws on hate spitch.
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Speaker 6: That as well as changes to protest laws out the
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Speaker 6: front of religious institutions. I don't think it's reasonable if
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Speaker 6: we are serious about freedom of religion and freedom of association,
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Speaker 6: to have somebody villify it for going into or example,
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Speaker 6: the Great Synagogue in the middle of Sydney.
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Speaker 5: Because of their religion.
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Speaker 6: They should be free to do that, free from intimidation,
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Speaker 6: free from hatred. So I've made a decision to introduce
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Speaker 6: legislation to put a zone around all religious institutions so
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Speaker 6: that people who practice their religion can do it in peace.
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Speaker 2: Those laws will certainly be welcome and let's hope they
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Speaker 2: make a difference. Look, Peter Dutan says there needs to
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Speaker 2: be mandatory minimum sentences for anti Semitic and terror offenses.
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Speaker 1: Do you think this is.
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Speaker 2: Something that should be put on the table at the
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Speaker 2: National cabinet. Do you agree this would be a strong
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Speaker 2: deterrent as well well.
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Speaker 6: I think tough sentences need to be part of the
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Speaker 6: deterrent here, and I think that when I've spoken to
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Speaker 6: members of the Jewish community, they've made it incredibly clear
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Speaker 6: to me that they're concerned that.
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Speaker 5: A soft touch approach has led.
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Speaker 6: To an emboldenment when it comes to attacks in our community.
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Speaker 6: Now that can't stand. These are serious offenses. Those who've
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Speaker 6: been charged or arrested with these serious offenses face years
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Speaker 6: in jail if they're convicted, But mandatory minimum sentences are
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Speaker 6: restricted to a very small number of offenses in New
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Speaker 6: South Wales. The one that comes to mind is the
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Speaker 6: murder of a police officer, but terrorism offenses, rape offenses,
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Speaker 6: sexual assault offenses, pedophile offenses, those that are convicted of
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Speaker 6: those chargers face long periods in time, but they're not
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Speaker 6: mandatory minimum sentences. I think my responsibility is to ensure
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Speaker 6: that the police have got resources to affect arrests and
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Speaker 6: when individuals are put.
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Speaker 5: Before the courts, that the full force.
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Speaker 6: Of the law is applied to them, and I think
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Speaker 6: we can do that under the existing regime. Although I
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Speaker 6: want to make it clear if we need to put
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Speaker 6: in as aggravating factors at sentencing the targeting of anyone,
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Speaker 6: but at the moment we're talking about the Jewish community,
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Speaker 6: that's what we'll do. And secondly, we'll look at offenses
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Speaker 6: that drive this kind of behavior, like, for example, hate
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Speaker 6: speech laws.
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Speaker 2: You said before that you regret not strengthening your hate
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Speaker 2: speech laws last year.
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Speaker 1: Many of us look back to the Opera House.
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Speaker 2: Protests and similar protests around that time as the starting point,
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Speaker 2: and the fact that the federal government, from the Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister down didn't seem to take this issue seriously. They
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Speaker 2: couldn't speak about anti Semitism without also speaking about Islamophobia.
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Speaker 2: November twenty twenty three, Peter dutt And asked the Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister to convene a national cabinet that's only happening now
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Speaker 2: on this issue in twenty twenty five. Do you understand
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Speaker 2: the extreme frustration and anger the Jewish community feels towards
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Speaker 2: the federal government for not taking this issue seriously enough?
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Speaker 2: An how we're in a situation where today a childcare.
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Speaker 1: Center has been Firebond.
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Speaker 6: Well, look, I can't speak on behalf of the Jewish
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Speaker 6: community in New South Wales but what I can say
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Speaker 6: is that we work very closely with the Prime Minister,
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Speaker 6: and not just at that level, but between state agencies
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Speaker 6: and the Commonwealth agencies, whether they're security agencies, the Federal Police,
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Speaker 6: the New South Wales Police, and where laws need to
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Speaker 6: be changed, that's exactly.
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Speaker 5: What we'll do.
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Speaker 6: And I want the community to know that that cooperation
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Speaker 6: is essential in combating this kind of outright and clearly
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Speaker 6: escalating anti Semitic acts in our community. But they won't
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Speaker 6: stop there. So look, I can't speak on behalf of
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Speaker 6: the Jewish community in New.
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Speaker 2: South I'm telling you that there's a lot of anger
22:26
Speaker 2: towards the federal government, but you would know that.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
22:29
Speaker 6: Look, all I can do is focus on my responsibility
22:33
Speaker 6: as the Premier of New South Wales and I just
22:34
Speaker 6: want to say a couple of things. We will work
22:36
Speaker 6: with Anthony Albanesi's government to keep the community safe and
22:39
Speaker 6: we've done that. And secondly, I can understand that the
22:42
Speaker 6: Jewish community in New South Wales is feeling, perhaps perhaps
22:46
Speaker 6: for the first time, a deep, deep worry and concern
22:50
Speaker 6: about their personal safety and security, or even their families'
22:54
Speaker 6: personal safety and security. I mean Alex's former house was targeted,
22:59
Speaker 6: I believe in a targeted attack. I spoke to him
23:02
Speaker 6: not long after it was revealed in the media, and
23:06
Speaker 6: can I tell you that the kind of strength, the
23:09
Speaker 6: clarity and the fact that he refused to be cowed
23:12
Speaker 6: by that attack is truly inspiring. And I think that
23:15
Speaker 6: that kind of sense in the Jewish community is pervasive.
23:18
Speaker 6: I've got no doubt that that community will not be bowed,
23:22
Speaker 6: notwithstanding the real threat that it faces. And I'd like
23:25
Speaker 6: them to know that the vast majority of Australians are
23:28
Speaker 6: on their side. They regard these attacks as completely antithetical
23:32
Speaker 6: to what it means to be Australian and we are
23:34
Speaker 6: with the Jewish community today and every day. New South
23:37
Speaker 6: Wales police will not stop until they arrest the people
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Speaker 6: who are responsible for it.
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Speaker 2: Really appreciate and we're grateful for your support and thank
23:45
Speaker 2: you very much for your time.
23:46
Speaker 5: Now, Premier, thank Charry.
23:49
Speaker 2: So that's New South I was Premier Chris Men's announcing
23:52
Speaker 2: new anti hate speech.
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Speaker 1: Laws desperately needed.
23:55
Speaker 2: These laws will apply to anyone, including hate preachers or
23:59
Speaker 2: pro palest In activists who sow division and.
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Speaker 1: Sprout racist vitriol.
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Speaker 2: As the Premiere quite rightly says, violent attacks begin with words,
24:09
Speaker 2: so he is taking action there. Look his comment at
24:11
Speaker 2: the end about the resilience of our Jewish Australian community.
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Speaker 2: It's true, but we shouldn't have to live in fear
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Speaker 2: this terrorism.
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Speaker 1: These every couple of days.
24:25
Speaker 2: Now it's not even weekly, it's a couple of times
24:27
Speaker 2: a week. These attacks shouldn't be happening, you know, you
24:30
Speaker 2: just think it wasn't that long ago. A couple of
24:32
Speaker 2: years ago, there was no anti Semitism on the streets.
24:36
Speaker 2: This wasn't happening. I can't believe this is the life
24:39
Speaker 2: we're now living. And I hope the strong police action
24:43
Speaker 2: works soon and that we do put an end to
24:45
Speaker 2: this and manage to move past it. All right, My
24:48
Speaker 2: interview with Peter Dutton still coming up on the show.
24:51
Speaker 2: He talks about Donald Trump, the end of woke, and
24:54
Speaker 2: the childcare fire bombing as well. But now let's cross
24:57
Speaker 2: live to Washington for more on this historic Trump inauguration.
25:02
Speaker 2: Sky News correspondent Analie Nielsen joins me. Now, Annalise, what
25:06
Speaker 2: a massive day. Can you talk us through some of
25:09
Speaker 2: the main executive orders that Trump signed on his first
25:13
Speaker 2: day in office?
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Speaker 7: Well, he went straight for it, and why wouldn't you
25:20
Speaker 7: sign as many influential executive orders as you can now,
25:23
Speaker 7: because this is the moment when he has the most goodwill,
25:26
Speaker 7: the biggest mandate coming in, having won the popular and
25:29
Speaker 7: the electoral College vote, and really so much support, especially
25:33
Speaker 7: from the business community. It was notable that he had
25:35
Speaker 7: all those tech executives front and center for his swearing in.
25:39
Speaker 7: So he signed in an executive order taking the US
25:43
Speaker 7: out of the Paris Climate Accord. He's signed an executive
25:47
Speaker 7: order declaring that there are two genders. Now, this seems
25:51
Speaker 7: like it might just be something that his critics would
25:54
Speaker 7: call virtue signaling, but there are practical ramifications of that
25:57
Speaker 7: for especially federal government employees and how they go to work,
26:02
Speaker 7: and it can go down to things like on government forms,
26:06
Speaker 7: drop down bars having two gender options. There's also going
26:09
Speaker 7: to be restrictions on how people interact in the military
26:13
Speaker 7: if they identify as trends, and there are additional executive
26:18
Speaker 7: orders on that. He's implemented in an executive order to
26:23
Speaker 7: extend TikTok's lifespan to stave off that coming to a
26:28
Speaker 7: head while he's in his first few days. But that
26:32
Speaker 7: will have to have some kind of agreement to either
26:34
Speaker 7: have American ownership divestiture or it will still be shut
26:38
Speaker 7: down as per the congressional rules. And he's implemented another
26:44
Speaker 7: executive order that's going to make a big difference here
26:46
Speaker 7: in Washington, DC. He's mandating that everyone has to go
26:49
Speaker 7: back to work, no more teleworking, and that's going to
26:51
Speaker 7: be a big impetus for his Department of Government Efficiency,
26:56
Speaker 7: which was supposed to be Elon Musk and for Vek Ramaswamy.
26:59
Speaker 7: They announced yesterday for Vex standing down from that one.
27:02
Speaker 7: And it seems like he'll be running for governor of Ohio,
27:05
Speaker 7: but that hasn't been confirmed yet.
27:08
Speaker 2: Looking at Joe Biden in his exit, he sparked outrage
27:12
Speaker 2: with his last minute pardons, both of his family and
27:16
Speaker 2: about Anthony Fauci and others.
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Speaker 1: Annalise, Yes, this was unexpected.
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Speaker 7: He's already racked up the most executive pardons of any president,
27:29
Speaker 7: and I think he was anticipating Donald Trump coming in
27:31
Speaker 7: and trumping that number anyway. But what he did in
27:35
Speaker 7: the last few moments was extraordinary in not only giving
27:38
Speaker 7: his own relatives his siblings a preemptive pardon, as there
27:41
Speaker 7: was a probe into his brother using influence peddling to
27:45
Speaker 7: make money. He's also given preemptive pardons to Anthony Fauci,
27:50
Speaker 7: the COVID czar from the Donald Trump years. He gave
27:55
Speaker 7: a preemptive pardon to General Millie, who is so instrumental
27:59
Speaker 7: and disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan. And in doing this, what
28:03
Speaker 7: he's actually really set them up.
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Speaker 1: For is further.
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Speaker 7: Investigation from Congress, because when you have these presidential pardons,
28:13
Speaker 7: it is a power of the president to say you
28:17
Speaker 7: won't be pursued personally.
28:18
Speaker 1: But what that means is if.
28:20
Speaker 7: You accept it as they have, you can no longer
28:22
Speaker 7: claim the Fifth Amendment right to not testify in your
28:26
Speaker 7: own defense because the premise is that you can no
28:30
Speaker 7: longer be prosecuted, so you don't need that protection. So
28:34
Speaker 7: I would expect Republicans to make full use of that,
28:36
Speaker 7: and we should be having some very confrontational hearings on
28:39
Speaker 7: the matter. They'll still be one to investigate what went
28:41
Speaker 7: wrong after those big policy Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and look the world deserves to know, you know,
28:49
Speaker 2: no more hiding and political protection anymore. Annalie Nilsen, thank
28:53
Speaker 2: you so much for your coverage, not just now but
28:55
Speaker 2: throughout the day.
28:56
Speaker 1: Appreciate your time. Now still to come.
28:59
Speaker 2: Well we're already we know Albanese's judgment is bad. But
29:02
Speaker 2: wait till you hear who's who he's decided to send
29:05
Speaker 2: to represent Australia at the eightieth Commemoration of the Liberation
29:09
Speaker 2: of Aschwitz.
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Speaker 1: It is astounding.
29:11
Speaker 2: I'll talk about that with Bronwyn Bishop and Holly Hughes next,
29:14
Speaker 2: plus my exclusive interview with Peter Dutton coming up. We
29:18
Speaker 2: discuss Albanese's stunning backflip on the National Cabinet meeting and
29:23
Speaker 2: Trump's return to power. Peter Dutton predicts the age of
29:27
Speaker 2: woke is over. That interview coming up, Welcome back, Well,
29:34
Speaker 2: lots more analysis to come. I'm going to ask my
29:36
Speaker 2: panel in a minute if they agree with Trump's executive
29:39
Speaker 2: order to return to two genders. But first I want
29:43
Speaker 2: to tell you about what the Albaneze government has done.
29:46
Speaker 2: They plan to send Senator Sue Lines to represent Australia
29:50
Speaker 2: at the event commemorating the eightieth Liberation of Auschwitz that's
29:54
Speaker 2: early next week. This is despite her hostile anti Israel history. Now,
30:00
Speaker 2: former Treasurer Josh Friedenberg came out publicly he said to
30:04
Speaker 2: the PM, reconsider this decision. It's a serious error of judgment.
30:09
Speaker 2: He said, you're sending the wrong message with the wrong messenger.
30:13
Speaker 2: Now Albanezi was embarrassed and he scrambled. He dumped Sue
30:17
Speaker 2: Lines as the head of the delegation she might still
30:20
Speaker 2: be going, and he replaced her with Penny.
30:25
Speaker 1: Wong Mark Drefus as well.
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Speaker 2: So he's sending the most anti Israel foreign minister, who's
30:33
Speaker 2: been pretty weak on anti Semitism, to Auschwitz where a
30:37
Speaker 2: million Jews were murdered. Prime Minister couldn't have worse judgment.
30:42
Speaker 2: Let's bring in now former Speaker of the House Bronwin
30:44
Speaker 2: Bishop and Liberal Senator Holly Hughes Browin.
30:47
Speaker 1: What do you think of this?
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Speaker 8: The man is so imbued with these anti Israel policies
30:53
Speaker 8: that he has no sense at all what he's doing.
30:56
Speaker 8: The man is a fool, and to insult the memory
31:03
Speaker 8: of those people who are murdered in that way is atrocious.
31:07
Speaker 8: And I just saw that Sir Frank Lowie is going,
31:12
Speaker 8: and I remember seeing an image of Sir Frank Philly
31:15
Speaker 8: recently looking at it again when he was looking at
31:18
Speaker 8: a carriage which his parents were taken to us with
31:24
Speaker 8: Alberanezi has got to be got out of public life
31:28
Speaker 8: in this country. To send Penny Wong as a replacement
31:31
Speaker 8: for the Lions woman who should not be going at all,
31:35
Speaker 8: is just insanity, Holly.
31:38
Speaker 9: I mean, soe Lyons has completely I don't know her
31:44
Speaker 9: from the Senate and she doesn't cover herself in glory
31:47
Speaker 9: particularly well there either. But she is well known as
31:52
Speaker 9: being of the rabbit left within the Labor Party. She
31:54
Speaker 9: is incredibly anti Israel, very pro Palestine, one of the
31:59
Speaker 9: ones out they're supporting anra looking, you know, just absolutely
32:04
Speaker 9: the wrong person. And if they had to send one
32:07
Speaker 9: of the officials, so the Speaker or the President, Milton Dick,
32:11
Speaker 9: who Speaker of the House of Representatives is a really
32:13
Speaker 9: strong supporter of Israel, he would have been a much
32:17
Speaker 9: better choice if they had to send one of the
32:20
Speaker 9: presiding officers to go, because I know Scott Ryan went
32:23
Speaker 9: ten years ago for the seventieth anniversaries, so.
32:26
Speaker 2: Maybe the Prime Minister could have gone himself. Given King
32:29
Speaker 2: Charles is going, you'd think that King Charles can take
32:32
Speaker 2: the time to go.
32:33
Speaker 9: And we know Airbus Albo loves a trip, so here's
32:36
Speaker 9: another opportunity for him to.
32:37
Speaker 1: Go and he might learn something.
32:39
Speaker 2: We might learn something about anti Semitism and react to
32:43
Speaker 2: all of this differently.
32:44
Speaker 4: No, it's not.
32:46
Speaker 8: He's been imbued with it since he was a university.
32:50
Speaker 2: All right, let's return to Trump's inauguration, and I want
32:52
Speaker 2: to ask you both about some of his most bold
32:56
Speaker 2: executive orders. He's withdrawn from the Paris Timate. A. Cords said,
33:02
Speaker 2: there will only be two genders, a man and a woman.
33:05
Speaker 1: Run when you know too much of us.
33:08
Speaker 2: To many of us, it's kind of a relief to
33:11
Speaker 2: hear someone speak in such a rational way.
33:15
Speaker 1: You know, who needs many, many, many genders.
33:18
Speaker 8: When we don't. And now he's settled it. But the
33:21
Speaker 8: most important thing for me was withdrawing from the Paris Accord.
33:25
Speaker 1: The whole question of energy.
33:27
Speaker 8: He made a statement literally today that he was going
33:30
Speaker 8: to use all the energy resources available in America to
33:34
Speaker 8: make America rich and powerful, and we are denying ourselves
33:38
Speaker 8: the ability to do that. You cannot be a rich,
33:41
Speaker 8: powerful nation in this world today without cheap energy and
33:47
Speaker 8: lots of it, because more and more development like AI
33:52
Speaker 8: is going to take more and more energy to create
33:56
Speaker 8: those data centers. So we have in that bumbling Bowen
34:02
Speaker 8: person is just a fool of a man. Yet another
34:06
Speaker 8: one of his plans to have offshore when mills has
34:09
Speaker 8: fallen over. Thank goodness, but it is just so simple
34:15
Speaker 8: that we have been indowbt with such treasures.
34:19
Speaker 1: Of gas, of coal.
34:22
Speaker 8: We've still got oil we don't look for anymore, and nuclear.
34:26
Speaker 8: So we have the opportunity to give us back what
34:29
Speaker 8: used to be our only competitive advantage, which was cheap electricity,
34:34
Speaker 8: because we had a high wage structure, a high unionized
34:38
Speaker 8: workforce at the time. And what this government has done
34:42
Speaker 8: is decimate those advantages for us. So, thank goodness, Trump
34:47
Speaker 8: has done it, and it will it will come down
34:49
Speaker 8: here because it will affect world investment.
34:52
Speaker 2: I think one of the great things, Holly, is that
34:54
Speaker 2: often politicians are looking ahead to their next term or
34:57
Speaker 2: the next job.
34:58
Speaker 1: Trump is run again. This is it.
35:01
Speaker 2: So he's got a strong mandate, he's got control of
35:04
Speaker 2: the House of the Senate, so he's just doing whatever
35:06
Speaker 2: he wants.
35:07
Speaker 9: And you think how exciting today was. Like you had
35:09
Speaker 9: the inauguration itself, the ceremonial part, but then the fact
35:12
Speaker 9: that he just started signing executive orders, you know, changing
35:15
Speaker 9: the name of the Gulf of Mexico. I mean, you know,
35:19
Speaker 9: I don't even know if we have that power in
35:20
Speaker 9: Australia to just go and do these things. It's quite extraordinary.
35:25
Speaker 9: So what is ahead for the next four years. I
35:27
Speaker 9: think he's going to be really exciting. And I think
35:30
Speaker 9: some of the decisions that he's made getting out of
35:32
Speaker 9: the WHO. I mean, it was only over the weekend
35:35
Speaker 9: I was talking to some people. If there was another pandemic,
35:38
Speaker 9: there's no way Australians would put up with being locked
35:40
Speaker 9: down and locked away and treated like they were during
35:43
Speaker 9: the last COVID pandemic. And I think getting out of
35:46
Speaker 9: the WHO, not buying into this globalist idea, We're going
35:50
Speaker 9: to see more and more of that coming through American sovereignty,
35:53
Speaker 9: the southern border, the work that he's going to do there.
35:56
Speaker 9: And of course he's going to California on Friday, so
35:59
Speaker 9: it'll be interesting to say with the fires there, what
36:02
Speaker 9: his response is and how he deals with those manners
36:05
Speaker 9: in the Californian government and how they've destroyed California.
36:11
Speaker 2: What do you think about the preemptive pardon of his
36:13
Speaker 2: family members, Bronman Biden Biden.
36:17
Speaker 8: I was truly shocked I mean to make that announcement
36:21
Speaker 8: what minutes before Trump was making his speech, and it's
36:29
Speaker 8: the date. It's twenty and fourteen, eleven years.
36:36
Speaker 1: Back there.
36:37
Speaker 8: That's when when his son went onto the board in
36:43
Speaker 8: the Ukraine of the guest company. I think it was
36:46
Speaker 8: with no experience in whichever that company was, but to
36:50
Speaker 8: go for the whole family. But also Fauci, Yes, exactly,
36:56
Speaker 8: so angry. Your book was so spot on. It was
37:00
Speaker 8: in the lab without any doubt at all. And it
37:03
Speaker 8: is quite clear to me that pauts She was the
37:06
Speaker 8: one who was pushing gain of function, which is to
37:09
Speaker 8: make it more potent for human beings. That's what he
37:11
Speaker 8: was doing. And hiding the money that he was sending.
37:16
Speaker 8: And for these people to be pardoned in this.
37:20
Speaker 9: Group, but it's bizarre, and I don't know, Bro, when
37:23
Speaker 9: you're a lawyer, how can you preemptively pardon someone who
37:27
Speaker 9: hasn't been charged, let alone convicted?
37:30
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, how does that work.
37:34
Speaker 2: We're out of time though, because I've got a Peter
37:36
Speaker 2: Dutton interview coming up next.
37:38
Speaker 1: We can't get into that off I take up this time, Holly.
37:43
Speaker 2: Here's Robin Bishop, so lovely to see you, as always
37:46
Speaker 2: coming up after the break. Well, ALBINIZI has been dragged,
37:49
Speaker 2: kicking and screaming to this national cabinet more than a
37:52
Speaker 2: year after Dutton called for one.
37:53
Speaker 1: We'll hear his thoughts next. Welcome back.
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Speaker 2: Well, Peter Dutton could be Australia's next Prime minister. He's
38:04
Speaker 2: pulling ahead of Alban Easy in the polls and let's
38:07
Speaker 2: face it, the PM has been pathetic when it comes
38:10
Speaker 2: to the rise in anti Semitism over the past fifteen months.
38:13
Speaker 1: And today we woke up to the.
38:15
Speaker 2: Horrific news a childcare center had been firebompt. Well, I
38:19
Speaker 2: sat down with Peter Dutton to speak about all of
38:22
Speaker 2: this and Donald Trump a little while ago.
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Speaker 1: Peter Dutton, thank you so much for your time.
38:28
Speaker 2: Thank surey you first called for a national cabinet in
38:32
Speaker 2: November twenty twenty three. It's now more than a year
38:35
Speaker 2: later and we've seen a childcare center firebont overnight. The
38:41
Speaker 2: Prime Minister finally listened to your demand today. In your view,
38:46
Speaker 2: is Alban Easy in his government partly to blame for
38:49
Speaker 2: the escalating violence that we've seen.
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Speaker 10: Sure, there's no doubt in my mind whatsoever, and I
38:55
Speaker 10: think it was entirely predictable the last twelve fourteen months
38:59
Speaker 10: because of what we saw on the steps of the
39:01
Speaker 10: Opera House and when you saw the depth of hatred.
39:04
Speaker 10: And we have all known, of course that anty Semitism
39:07
Speaker 10: is lurking just beneath the surface, but I think it
39:10
Speaker 10: was given a face and we saw the depth of
39:14
Speaker 10: some of it on the steps of the Opera House,
39:17
Speaker 10: and that was the trigger, I thought for the Prime
39:21
Speaker 10: Minister to have what I've described as sort of the
39:25
Speaker 10: port Arthur moment that John Howard had to take a
39:28
Speaker 10: terrible circumstance and show the leadership that the nation required.
39:32
Speaker 10: And I think you could reasonably predict what has happened
39:35
Speaker 10: over the course of the last twelve months that is
39:37
Speaker 10: continuing to escalate. But the Prime Minister seems to have
39:41
Speaker 10: either not acknowledged that, not comprehended it, or has just
39:45
Speaker 10: been out of his depth in terms of trying to
39:48
Speaker 10: deal with an issue. And I think the National Cabinet
39:52
Speaker 10: coming together with a meaningful agenda with action items, it
39:56
Speaker 10: would have sent a clear message from the Prime Minister
39:59
Speaker 10: and the premiers and Chief Ministers, to the police ministers
40:02
Speaker 10: and to the police commissioners across the jurisdictions and at
40:05
Speaker 10: a commonwealth level that we have zero tolerance for the
40:08
Speaker 10: anti semitism, the actions on the university campuses, etc. That
40:12
Speaker 10: we're allowed to continue on. Had there been a national
40:15
Speaker 10: cabinet where it had been determined and agreement had been
40:19
Speaker 10: arrived at that the States weren't going to allow that
40:23
Speaker 10: sort of hateful conduct, then we wouldn't have seen the
40:26
Speaker 10: escalation of my judgment and people would have known that
40:29
Speaker 10: there's a consequence for their actions.
40:31
Speaker 1: At the moment.
40:32
Speaker 2: Every night you go to sleep and you worry what
40:35
Speaker 2: the night holds, what's going to unfold, which institution or
40:39
Speaker 2: home is going to be attacked next. You wake up
40:41
Speaker 2: in the morning terrified at what's happened overnight, scared to
40:46
Speaker 2: look at the news.
40:47
Speaker 1: How can we live like this in this country?
40:49
Speaker 10: I can't understand the amount of inaction that we've seen
40:54
Speaker 10: from the government in Victoria. The Premier there has just
40:59
Speaker 10: been as weak, frankly as the Prime minister. And I
41:04
Speaker 10: think what makes it most egregious is that people are
41:07
Speaker 10: living with that fear, not because the Prime minister has
41:10
Speaker 10: some greater national security cause in mind, or it's a
41:15
Speaker 10: piece on a chessboard that he's had to play because
41:17
Speaker 10: of the geopolitical circumstances in the region of the world.
41:21
Speaker 10: He's done it for crass political reasons, which I think
41:25
Speaker 10: makes it even more offensive to people, because he's decided
41:28
Speaker 10: to support one segment of the society, of our society
41:32
Speaker 10: and to essentially shun another part of society. I just
41:36
Speaker 10: haven't seen a prime minister do that before. And I
41:39
Speaker 10: think you're right. There are a lot of Australians who
41:40
Speaker 10: are living with the fear that their house is going
41:43
Speaker 10: to be broken into and keys are going to be
41:46
Speaker 10: stolen to take the car, and so people are leaving
41:49
Speaker 10: their keys by the front door or in the kitchen
41:53
Speaker 10: and playing sight And it's just a small example of
42:00
Speaker 10: what the entire Jewish community is living with at the moment,
42:02
Speaker 10: because they're worried they're going to be targeted, not because
42:06
Speaker 10: of their car, but because of their religion or because
42:09
Speaker 10: of the fact that they've got Jewish heritage, and many
42:12
Speaker 10: of whom are talking to a couple of yesterday who've
42:15
Speaker 10: been his sixty years, living peacefully in a suburban and
42:20
Speaker 10: they're the subject of one of these arson attacks, and
42:23
Speaker 10: it's just apporortling.
42:24
Speaker 2: I think I know the couple you mean, and that
42:26
Speaker 2: eighty five year old man went out in his pajamas
42:29
Speaker 2: at four am and holding a hose had to try
42:32
Speaker 2: and put out the flames of the touched cars. Eighty
42:36
Speaker 2: five holding the hose at four in the morning. It's
42:40
Speaker 2: unfathomable that this is what Sydney, Australia has come to.
42:44
Speaker 10: Yeah, well, I absolutely agree, and I think we have
42:47
Speaker 10: to have zero tolerance. So we've made announcements in relation
42:50
Speaker 10: to strengthening of the laws that we think would provide
42:52
Speaker 10: a very significant deterrence around mandatory around mandatory sentencing. And
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Speaker 10: if we can do that, then I think we have
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Speaker 10: a much better chance of stamping out the anti Semitism
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Speaker 10: that's now rife in our country.
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Speaker 2: So the National Cabinet is meeting almost as we speak.
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Speaker 2: They aren't considering the mandatory sentences that you've put on
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Speaker 2: the table, that you, as a police officer, think would
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Speaker 2: work as a deterrent to criminals looking at taking this
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Speaker 2: sort of violent action. Why do you think mandatory sentences
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Speaker 2: are important?
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Speaker 1: You know, I spoke with Chris.
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Speaker 2: Men's earlier and he said that those sort of laws
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Speaker 2: were reserved for the most heinous crimes.
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Speaker 1: Like murdering a policeman.
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Speaker 10: Well, what about murdering an Australian because of their religious
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Speaker 10: affiliation or murdering an Australian because their grandparents were have
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Speaker 10: migrated from Israel or were in the Holocaust. I mean,
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Speaker 10: I don't understand his point. Every Australian life is sacrasanct.
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Speaker 10: And we're talking about terrorist attacks now. This is not
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Speaker 10: a random break and enter into a house to steal
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Speaker 10: money to buy food or buy drugs. People are being targeted.
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Speaker 1: This is a wave of terror to message.
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Speaker 10: These are terrorist acts. And if there were a series
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Speaker 10: of rolling terrorist attacks in the community, I think the
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Speaker 10: Prime Minister would call a National Cabinet and a National
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Speaker 10: Security Committee meeting in a heartbeat. And yet it's taken
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Speaker 10: him fifteen months to get to this point. Fourteen months
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Speaker 10: to get to this point, and he does it without
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Speaker 10: any fanfare, or he had a press conference with the
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Speaker 10: Premier this morning, made no mention of it and holds
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Speaker 10: it this afternoon. I think just to tick the box
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Speaker 10: to exactly that the National Cabinet meeting should be an
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Speaker 10: opportunity to bring premiers and the police ministers together as
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Speaker 10: well as the Police commissioners and the security agencies to
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Speaker 10: say this is a national crisis and what we're dealing
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Speaker 10: with now is a national crisis and how do we
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Speaker 10: respond most adequately to it. I think the laws are
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Speaker 10: inadequate as they currently stand, which has been said before
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Speaker 10: by some of the Labor politicians. If that's their view,
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Speaker 10: then bring an amendment to the Act and will support
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Speaker 10: it through Parliament in the next fortnight. So unless there
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Speaker 10: is a substantive package that we're not aware of, and
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Speaker 10: I hope that there is that's been considered by the
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Speaker 10: National Cabinet, this is really just a medium management exercised
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Speaker 10: by the Prime Minister and won't provide any comfort or
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Speaker 10: any assurance that we could see a better response to
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Speaker 10: the anti Semitism that is up by seven hundred percent
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Speaker 10: across the country.
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump's inauguration obviously has just happened. Do you think
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Speaker 2: if you were to lead the next Australian government you
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Speaker 2: would have a better relationship with President Trump rather than
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Speaker 2: the Urbanese government.
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Speaker 10: Look, there's no doubt in my mind. I think the
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Speaker 10: philosophical differences between the Prime Minister and President Trump are obvious.
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Speaker 10: Prime Minister and comfort in his relationship with Jacindra Adurn
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Speaker 10: and Justin Treudeau and other left leaning leaders around the world.
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Speaker 10: That's a reflection of just on the Prime minister's life
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Speaker 10: and his outlook. He's been the leader of the hard
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Speaker 10: left of the Labor Party for decades. What does he
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Speaker 10: have in common with Donald Trump? What common ground could
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Speaker 10: they find in relation two key issues. It's hard to
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Speaker 10: imagine much at all. So there's no doubt in my
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Speaker 10: mind that we can have a very effective relationship and
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Speaker 10: a productive relationship and a respectful relationship mutually with the
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Speaker 10: Trump administration. In a government that I lead, we have
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Speaker 10: people of the caliber of James Patterson, who has very
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Speaker 10: good relationships with key individuals within the Trump administration. Similarly
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Speaker 10: with Andrew Hasty, Angus Taylor, myself and I dealt with
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Speaker 10: the Trump administration mark one, with the Trump forty five administrations.
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Speaker 10: So I feel very confident in the relationship that we
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Speaker 10: could quickly build, and I think it would be to
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Speaker 10: our country's benefit that we're able to leverage off that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you dealt with the administration on national security matters
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Speaker 2: of course.
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Speaker 1: All right, Peter Dutton, really appreciate your time. Thank you
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Speaker 1: so much, well, thank you, thank.
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Speaker 2: You, thank you all right. I also spoke with Peter
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Speaker 2: Dutton about whether he'd pull out of the Paris Climate
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Speaker 2: Acords like Trump, about what he thinks about the woke
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Speaker 2: agenda coming to an end. All of that is going
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Speaker 2: to be on the Sky News website in about fifteen
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Speaker 2: twenty minutes.
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Speaker 1: We couldn't fit it all in here, and more to
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Speaker 1: come after the break.
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Speaker 2: Okay, let's cross live to Israel now and bring in
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Speaker 2: October seven. Hero Nimrod, Powermack Nimrod. Great to see you again.
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Speaker 2: Look what's been the reaction in Israel to the Palestinian
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Speaker 2: criminals who've been released in exchange for the return of
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Speaker 2: three hostages.
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Speaker 11: Thank you, Sherry for having me. It's good to be here. Listen.
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Speaker 11: I think the sentiment is really complicated. On the one hand,
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Speaker 11: we all wanted to see our sisters and brothers getting
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Speaker 11: out from the hell of Hamas dungeons and tunnels, and
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Speaker 11: we couldn't imagine a better result of the city's three
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Speaker 11: girls leaving these tunnels. On the other hand, we all
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Speaker 11: understand these are not just prisoners. This is convicted terrorists
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Speaker 11: that killed many lives and now it's us to deal with.
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Speaker 11: But I completely trust the IDF to be able to
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Speaker 11: deal with any one of them that would choose the
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Speaker 11: path of tell.
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Speaker 2: Again, I mean, we know that Sinoa was one of
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Speaker 2: those released in the previous hostage deal for Gillard Charlotte,
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Speaker 2: So there is this concern again, how do you think
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Speaker 2: IDF will be able to keep track of everyone?
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Speaker 11: So the IDEF has its own methodologies of how to
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Speaker 11: count to terror. Eventually, if one of them will choose
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Speaker 11: the path of Telor and we'll choose to reconnect with
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Speaker 11: Tailor ourselves in the West Bank or wherever they will go,
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Speaker 11: it's really really easy for them to do that. But
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Speaker 11: again I'm trust that the IDEA will be able to
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Speaker 11: take care of that. What interestingly the most is to
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Speaker 11: be able to see more and more of our brothers
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Speaker 11: coming back because we all don't know what's the situation there.
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Speaker 2: We have no Idea and we hope for another three
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Speaker 2: being released on Saturday. Nimrod, I apologize, it's been a
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Speaker 2: packed show. We'll get you on again. I'll see everyone
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Speaker 2: tomorrow night at eight. And here's Paul Marie