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AEW Hot Topics | The Road to All Out · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And nine Ignition Sick five four three two one zero,
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  Speaker 1: All Engine running.
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  Speaker 2: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
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  Speaker 2: Ignition with the AAW Fat Hot podcast team. This is
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  Speaker 2: Kelson and I am here with Net and Jess and
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  Speaker 2: m K and we're going to talk about some hot
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  Speaker 2: topics in a w Look. You know where I want
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  Speaker 2: to start? Last week? Was it on Dynamite? I think
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  Speaker 2: Kyle Fletcher issued a challenge the hang man Adam Page
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  Speaker 2: and all out and I think we touched on this
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  Speaker 2: on last last week's show when we were talking about
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  Speaker 2: a hang man Adam Page. Should should Fletcher actually with
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  Speaker 2: this if the match hasn't been made official yet, but
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  Speaker 2: it will be, you know that, should Fletcher win this match?
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  Speaker 2: Because well, I'll just put the question out there and
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  Speaker 2: see what you guys have to say. Let's put it
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  Speaker 2: that way.
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  Speaker 3: It's for theavaweight title, correct, not a non title?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I assume it would be for the Ben's title.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I would be okay if it was for a
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  Speaker 3: non title where he kind of like an eliminator challenge
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  Speaker 3: and then you go to all out and and or
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  Speaker 3: or something like that, but straight out No, not yet
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  Speaker 3: he's not ready for that yet, but he's he's getting there.
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  Speaker 3: He's getting some attention from people all across some some
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  Speaker 3: pro wrestlers have said some stuff about him. So, uh,
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  Speaker 3: he's getting attention and he's there, but he's not there yet.
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  Speaker 2: I agree aea Jess.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say, I agree with MK, like
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  Speaker 4: he's got amazing potential. The ceiling on this kid is incredible,
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  Speaker 4: but not quite yet. For the title, I don't think
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  Speaker 4: one of the lesser titles maybe, but not the world
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  Speaker 4: title yet.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he's already got the TNT title, so we can't
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  Speaker 2: what's he gonna go for the trio's title. I mean, well, look, well,
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  Speaker 2: well that what do you What do you have to say?
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  Speaker 5: Oh, I don't think so yet. I don't. I don't
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  Speaker 5: think he's ready to take it off. Hang man. I
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  Speaker 5: think at some point in the future, I can definitely
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  Speaker 5: see it, but no, not now. And and we really
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  Speaker 5: need somebody. I know he was feuding with Mark Briscoe,
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  Speaker 5: but I feel like we need somebody really a really
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  Speaker 5: good ongoing story with Kyle And yeah, I don't see
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  Speaker 5: him taking that off, hangman.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, well type for wrestling in the chat
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  Speaker 2: said I think the challenge was made on collision, and no,
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  Speaker 2: Fletcher should not win. Hangman needs a six month reign
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  Speaker 2: at a minimum. And I agree with also time for
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  Speaker 2: wrestling because he says he's not a fan of somebody
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  Speaker 2: who already holds a singles title challenging for the world title.
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  Speaker 2: I'm also I've been gone on record saying I just
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  Speaker 2: don't like it when one wrestler has more than one
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  Speaker 2: AW title. I just think that's a waste. With how
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  Speaker 2: large the roster is, there's really no need for one
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  Speaker 2: wrestler to have two AW titles. I'm kind of okay
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  Speaker 2: with the Ring of Honor and a title, just not
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  Speaker 2: too from the AW. I'm kind of torn on this,
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  Speaker 2: to be honest with you. Do I really think that
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  Speaker 2: Kyle Fletcher should win? No? I don't. However, Kyle Fletcher
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  Speaker 2: is a viable candidate for a challenger or contender already
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  Speaker 2: AW Men's World Championship belt as is, takeshta other than
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  Speaker 2: those two. I really couldn't think of anybody to challenge
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  Speaker 2: that hasn't already challenged or that, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 2: is viable. I mean, I mean you could pick out
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  Speaker 2: somebody who say, like Lance Archer, But what is Line
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  Speaker 2: Charger done to win? You know, to earn a world
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  Speaker 2: championship shot, you know, you've got to do something like
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  Speaker 2: with Kyle Fletcher or or even Kenoskate Takeshta. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: even Bandido wouldn't be a bad idea. Yeah, he's the
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  Speaker 2: Ring of Honor World champion, but that would still be
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  Speaker 2: a pretty decent match, although there are two baby faces.
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  Speaker 2: So my thing is is I don't think that Kyle
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  Speaker 2: Fletcher should win, but I also don't want to see
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  Speaker 2: Kyle Fletcher as one of the true viable candidates for
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  Speaker 2: the title because again, I honestly I can't think of
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  Speaker 2: anybody else bought Fletcher at Takeushta right now, because everybody
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  Speaker 2: else is either injured or hasn't earned it or have
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  Speaker 2: already been beaten by Hangman and a Page. What are
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  Speaker 2: you gonna do? Uh mjf again.
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  Speaker 4: Eventually, I have a field suggestion now.
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  Speaker 2: But what I'm but I'm what I'm saying here is
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  Speaker 2: that if Kyle Fletcher goes in the challenges Hangman out
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  Speaker 2: of Page, I'm okay with Hangman and in Paige beating
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  Speaker 2: Kyle Fletcher. I just don't want to see Kyle Fletcher
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  Speaker 2: take it out of that contendership. So something's gotta happen there.
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  Speaker 2: And what I think may happen, and we're gonna be
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  Speaker 2: doing our prediction show for All Out next Tuesday. But
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  Speaker 2: what I think is gonna happen is Takesha is going
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  Speaker 2: to turn on Kyle Fletcher, and he may do it
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  Speaker 2: at all Out. Takeshas gonna turn on the Don Coll's family.
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  Speaker 2: We already saw some seeds planted there on Collision, But
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  Speaker 2: go ahead, Jess, what if you have to say?
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  Speaker 4: My left field suggestion for possible contenders is a why
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  Speaker 4: not Cesarrow? We all know how talented he is.
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  Speaker 2: Who's Czarrow? There's no Cesarrow in a W.
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  Speaker 4: Gosh, dang it. I've been watching too much old w
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  Speaker 4: too many old w w W paper views lately. I
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  Speaker 4: pulled a j R. I'm sorry, yes you did.
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  Speaker 2: Why is Claudio a viable challenger? He's done nothing but
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  Speaker 2: really sit on the sidelines, be a lackey and lose.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not saying that he couldn't be a
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  Speaker 2: challenger in and by the time the next pay per
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  Speaker 2: view runs comes around, but he's got to do something
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  Speaker 2: between now and then to earn that shot. You know
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  Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I get it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Like I said, the only two viable contenders
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  Speaker 2: I can think of her Takeshta and Fletcher, And I
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  Speaker 2: just don't want to see Fletcher lose it all out,
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  Speaker 2: and just why not. I'd like to see an ongoing
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  Speaker 2: feud between hang Man and Fletcher, assuming I don't think
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  Speaker 2: they've ever faced each other before. I'm not sure, but
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  Speaker 2: if they have good chemistry, yeah, i'd want to see
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  Speaker 2: it run back. Anybody else have thoughts on this?
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  Speaker 3: No? No, I don't know who else would go Honestly,
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  Speaker 3: I I said, everybody hurt and stuff. It's kind of
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  Speaker 3: hard to pick at a don callis family is doing
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  Speaker 3: the best they really can with what they're given, and
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  Speaker 3: Kyle Fletcher is the best opponent for that. He'll lose,
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  Speaker 3: but Ky Flescher will come back eventtionally. But I just
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  Speaker 3: like I said, I just don't know who else, honestly
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  Speaker 3: throughout the line will even come close.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. You know one thing I will say, MK is
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  Speaker 2: what I really don't want to see is a fifty
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  Speaker 2: year old plus going after the belt again. I want
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  Speaker 2: to I like the idea of Kyle Fletcher, Kenos Kate,
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  Speaker 2: the Kustard are young, hungry, and extremely talented. I want
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  Speaker 2: to see these guys have stories built. I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to see the forty eight fifty year olds and fifty
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  Speaker 2: four year olds going at it. No disrespect to them,
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  Speaker 2: but they've had their time. This is, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: younger guy's time. Now.
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  Speaker 3: You know you can't just yeah, I get you saying,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you.
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  Speaker 2: Can't do There's always so far you can do with
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  Speaker 2: the nostalgia tour, that's what I call it. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 2: can get some legs out of it, but eventually you
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  Speaker 2: look at it, you're like, hey, you know these guys,
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  Speaker 2: why are we going with these old guys? You know
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  Speaker 2: what's interesting though, is that we're going to go right
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  Speaker 2: into the next topic, and it's very similar to the
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  Speaker 2: topic we just talked about with Kyle Fletcher. You got
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  Speaker 2: Tony Storm at all Out facing Chris Statlander, THEKLA and
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  Speaker 2: Jamie Hayter in a four way match for the Aw's
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  Speaker 2: Women's Championship. Now the question is should Tony Storm lose
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  Speaker 2: the title and if so, who wins it and why?
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  Speaker 2: You know, we could talk a little bit more about
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  Speaker 2: Tony Storm after this. But again, okay, so you've got
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  Speaker 2: Jamie Hayter, THECKLA, and Chris Statlander in this match. So
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  Speaker 2: Tony Storm wins this match, that eliminates three contenders right there,
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  Speaker 2: You see I'm saying, So if none of those three win,
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  Speaker 2: who's next?
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, that's what I'm thinking. But my problem is
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  Speaker 3: Jamie Hayter's kind of accident as a taba Andrey prone
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  Speaker 3: that's kind of new, and stat Lander's having something going
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  Speaker 3: on with the Death Riders, So I don't know what
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  Speaker 3: to do that. I really think I would put it
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  Speaker 3: on THEKLA and them, and that a way Tony can
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  Speaker 3: have some time off and that Trio of Terror or
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  Speaker 3: Triangle of Terror people can really hold a tot a
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  Speaker 3: belt for a few months and then someone else can
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  Speaker 3: come in and get it. But right now, I would
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  Speaker 3: really really be disappointed if Tony won that match.
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  Speaker 2: Anybody else with an opinion on this.
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  Speaker 5: I'd like to see Tony perhaps to drop the belt,
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  Speaker 5: but I don't know to who. I don't like any
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  Speaker 5: three of her contenders as as being able to beat her,
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  Speaker 5: So I don't know. She's just so over it's it's
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  Speaker 5: hard to think of who could really do it and
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  Speaker 5: carry on.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, just are the thoughts.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Actually, if you'll permit me a small bout of
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  Speaker 4: Jess Brand fantasy booking, I don't see why that having
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  Speaker 4: some possibly being brought into the death writers and winning
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  Speaker 4: the title should be mutually exclusive. Can you imagine like
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  Speaker 4: a champion stat indoctrinated with Max's twisted logic on what
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  Speaker 4: a champion should be and how they should behave That's
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  Speaker 4: kind of a scary thought in a good way.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, look, I mean I think I think
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  Speaker 2: he could dissect this even further. First of All Time
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  Speaker 2: for Wrestling did make a comment, uh, saying that he
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't be mad if it was stat Lander who won it,
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  Speaker 2: but he said that Decla hasn't been there longer. Well,
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  Speaker 2: Decla's been there for five months. You know, it doesn't
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  Speaker 2: seem that long, but she has, and uh, Jamie Hayter
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  Speaker 2: was gone for a while, which I guess you kind
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  Speaker 2: of mean. I kind of agree with MK and that, well,
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  Speaker 2: Hater's been a little injury prone over the last couple
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  Speaker 2: of years. I guess this is fair to say. So
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  Speaker 2: let's but let's look at it this way. You've got Thecla.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk about Decla. She's been in aw for five
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  Speaker 2: months and she is currently in a few or looks
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  Speaker 2: this way with Jamie Hayter. If Becla wins the title
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  Speaker 2: at all out, then her she has a built in
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  Speaker 2: challenger in Jamie Hayter right away if she If neither Thatchla,
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  Speaker 2: well put it this way, if Hater wins the title
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  Speaker 2: at all out, she has a built in challenger in Decla. Yeah. So,
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  Speaker 2: and if neither of them win the belt it all out,
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  Speaker 2: they still have a rivalry and a feud going. That's
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  Speaker 2: just beginning. Yeah, because because if you remember when Tecla
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  Speaker 2: did debut five months ago, the first thing she did
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  Speaker 2: was took out Jamie Hayter.
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  Speaker 3: So Hastekla beat stat Lander. I thought that she had
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  Speaker 3: a match a while back.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard to I don't know, they've had so many
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  Speaker 2: eight eight women also star tag matches or whatever the
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  Speaker 2: heck you want to call it. It's kind of hard
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  Speaker 2: to keep track of who's been with who.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I'm just that beck was the most over person.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna I have a small crush on her. I
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  Speaker 3: love her style, her vibe. I think she's got a
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  Speaker 3: lot going for and she's the most intriguing person on
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  Speaker 3: that list who can really stand out on our own.
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  Speaker 3: Even it's just a even, it's a small ran. I
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  Speaker 3: think that that group right there can have some mileage
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  Speaker 3: to it and put on some good matches and then
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  Speaker 3: finally get beat for it. But she'd be a good
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  Speaker 3: transitional champion.
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  Speaker 2: Right Well, let's let me just explore this a little
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  Speaker 2: bit further to talk about Chris Statlander. Now, if Chris
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  Speaker 2: Statlander wins it, Uh, she's got Willow Nightingale right there
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  Speaker 2: starting gurd and face. And who wouldn't want to see
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  Speaker 2: Chris Statlander versus Willow Nightingale for this world Championship? I
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  Speaker 2: know I would. You also have to keep in mind
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  Speaker 2: that Statlander has that little thing going on with the
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  Speaker 2: death Writers. So what happens if maybe the death Writers
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  Speaker 2: get involved and help Statlander win this match? It all out?
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  Speaker 2: Another thing you can consider here is that Statlander may
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  Speaker 2: be the more viable of the contenders in this match.
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  Speaker 2: When you think about it. She's she's been there longest,
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  Speaker 2: not by much. Hater's been there for quite a while too,
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  Speaker 2: But Hater, the only reason Hayter wasn't there as long
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  Speaker 2: as stat Lander. To be honest with you, is that
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  Speaker 2: when the pandemic hit, Statlander was here and Hater got
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  Speaker 2: stuck in Japan and she couldn't count, all right, So
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  Speaker 2: that really shouldn't be used against Hater because she would
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  Speaker 2: have been here earlier, but she couldn't make it because
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  Speaker 2: she was stuck in Japan. The other thing about Statlander
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  Speaker 2: being the most viable is that she is currently the
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  Speaker 2: Pro Wrestling Eve International Champion. So yeah, I mean, she's
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  Speaker 2: got a belt already, She's already a big thing. She
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  Speaker 2: just defended it well last weekend. Last Friday, she won
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  Speaker 2: against Samuels. I'm killing myself here. I can't remember Samuels's
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  Speaker 2: first name and I love her, which so that makes
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  Speaker 2: it even worse. Jeez. But anyway, so and that was
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  Speaker 2: a great match. It's weird because if you remember, Statlander
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  Speaker 2: wrestled on Collision this past week, which was live, and
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  Speaker 2: she had been in England. She had wrestled on Friday
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  Speaker 2: night in England, flew back to the States and wrestled
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  Speaker 2: on Collision Saturday night. And I thought that was a
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  Speaker 2: weird choice putting her in that match, because that's just
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  Speaker 2: ask it a lot flying across the pond, you know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean? Yeah, does anybody not think I'm just interested?
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  Speaker 2: Let's answer the question. That's we're kind of making it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm making an assumption here, but let's go ahead and
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  Speaker 2: forthright answer the question. Should Tony Storm lose the title
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  Speaker 2: at all? Out? What do you guys think?
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  Speaker 4: Probably I would be okay if she didn't, but I
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  Speaker 4: would I think it's been a good run and she
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  Speaker 4: does deserve some time off.
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  Speaker 3: Emphatically, yes, it would be sorry. It would make the
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  Speaker 3: women's division look bad if she'd beat four people at once,
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  Speaker 3: in my opinion. I know a lot of people disagree
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  Speaker 3: with that, and that's fine, but I just I think
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  Speaker 3: it would make the division look bad because he's reading
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  Speaker 3: through everybody else.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, thanks, thank you for type of wrestling,
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  Speaker 2: Nina Samuels. I don't know why her escape me, but
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  Speaker 2: thank you, Nett. What do you What do you have
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  Speaker 2: to say?
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  Speaker 5: I was going to say that I'm okay with Tony
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  Speaker 5: dropping the belt. I hate to see it, but I
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  Speaker 5: know it has to happen. But I just think that
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  Speaker 5: she needs to lose against a really, really good opponent,
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  Speaker 5: someone who is just really up there and the only
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  Speaker 5: person I honestly feel like is Jamie Hayter. Otherwise I don't.
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  Speaker 5: I don't like anybody enough really to see them taking
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  Speaker 5: the belt off of her. That's just how I feel
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  Speaker 5: about it. Or perhaps Willow that those would be people
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  Speaker 5: I'd have in mind for it.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, well Willow's not in this match, so.
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  Speaker 3: I know, but she you know that.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just saying that that's somebody I would prefer to
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  Speaker 5: see do it. But if if Willow's not going to
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  Speaker 5: do it, then I would. I would say Jamie Hayter.
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  Speaker 5: Those are one of my picks.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to bring up one other thing. I believe
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  Speaker 2: it's a Suburbs back to Australia. Uh if she, if she,
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  Speaker 2: meaning Tony Storm, were to lose this title, uh add
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  Speaker 2: all out, she could get it back and it'd be
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  Speaker 2: a big deal if she took it back in Australia. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, she.
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  Speaker 3: Just said she's had it back and forth so many times.
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  Speaker 3: It's time for some new blood in there. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: she had it for a little bit, lost it, then
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  Speaker 3: gained it back, and I just feel like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: I feel like at some point some younger people got
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  Speaker 3: to step up.
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  Speaker 2: Well, okay, that brings up another question. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: think that we can all agree that when AW maybe
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  Speaker 2: the division in all companies, but specifically when it comes
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  Speaker 2: to you aw's women's division, Tony Storm is the name.
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  Speaker 2: She's the biggest deal. Okay. The question is, does Tony
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  Speaker 2: Storm need to have a title to be relevant? I
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  Speaker 2: don't think so. I really don't. I think without a belt,
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  Speaker 2: the belt doesn't make the wrestler. Tony Storm is the wrestler.
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  Speaker 1: She is.
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  Speaker 2: The character just happens to have a belt. I think
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  Speaker 2: it's time for her to put somebody over. I think
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  Speaker 2: it's time for somebody else to get a belt, get
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  Speaker 2: the belt, and I don't think it's going to hurt
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  Speaker 2: her momentum, or her character or anything. She she's gonna be.
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  Speaker 2: She's not gonna be like, nobody's gonna turn her back
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  Speaker 2: on her. That's what I'm saying, you know, that's what
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  Speaker 2: What do you guys think? Does Tony Storm need a
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  Speaker 2: belt in order to be viable?
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  Speaker 4: I don't think so.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, guys, go ahead, Jess No.
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  Speaker 4: I was just gonna say no, I don't think she does.
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  Speaker 4: She's that good. She's she was amazing and entertaining before
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  Speaker 4: she won the title, and she will be after she
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  Speaker 4: loses it, but she has made it a pretty big
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  Speaker 4: part of her identity.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah right, Uh, Nett, what are you get to say?
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  Speaker 5: I was going to say, I don't think she needs
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: a title to be as big as she is. I
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: think she's surpassed having the title. She's just that good.
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: I can see her not having it and being just
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: as entertaining and just as wonderful and someone that a
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: lot of other women will still strive to beat. She
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: will still get really good matches, cut really good promos.
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: So I think she's just got it.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, did you have anything to add?
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: I'm not I've thought at all.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, Typer Wrestley did say she already won it
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: back in Australia though what she did, and he did
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: say if it happened again, it would feel like a
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: little bit of a rehash, which I absolutely agree with.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Maybe to maybe throw a twisted here, she doesn't win
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: it in Australia and she loses it by nefarious means,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: that would be a story, you know, so, But anyway,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Time for Wrestling says no as well that the character
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: is so good and honestly losing the title or allowed
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: to evolve the character a bit more. And I do
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: agree with that. So the next part about this particular
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: topic is, let's stay with Tony Storm. If she wins
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: the title, what's next for her? If she loses the title?
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: What is next for her? Does she take a break?
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Does she just start another feud? Who would she? Who
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: would you think win or lose? Who would be the
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: next challenge? I know that net had mentioned Willow already.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know Nattie thought of anybody else?
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: No, I am not so I don't know.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Well that makes sense? What about Umka, let's go down?
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: You know if they put it on uh, if they
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: put it on Fekla. I really do think Queen a
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: Minada would be fun to rehash as hashers champion, and
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: I want to see Meghan Banine eventually get a shot
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: again as as well. But that's a person who, honestly,
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: if she does win, I think Megan Bane needs another shot.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, what about you, Jess.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: Well, I think it's natural for a champion to feud
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: a little bit with the person who took their title,
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: but she doesn't need to win back after that Jeeves.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: I don't know, she could wrestle anyone, and it would
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: be amazing. She could. She could wrestle a hat Rock
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: to a five star match.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: I think, you know, Jess, you just said something interesting.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: I think it's natural for the champion to have a
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: feud with somebody who took her title from her. But
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: remember this is a four way match, so you have
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: things that can happen. What if sky Blue and Julia
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Hart come out and cause her to lose the title.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: What if the Death Writers come out and cause her
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: to lose the title. You know, so there's a lot
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: of different things that could happen here. You know, it's
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: it could get convoluted. This is pretty interesting, but it's
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: weird because we pretty much all agree that, you know,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Tony Storm doesn't need this title to be relevant, and
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: I think that's a good, good, good take. So let's
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: talk a little bit more about the build for All
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Out again. Next Tuesday, we're going to be doing our
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: preview or prediction show, which is always fun. But last
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: week on Ignition we talked about the lack of build
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: for All Out or to you know, we had a
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: couple of matches that have been set like two or
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: three matches, but there really wasn't anything. Now we got
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: the spare away match for the women's world title announced.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: We had Kyle Fletcher challenge Hangman Page Again. It's not
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: official yet, but it looks like it's gonna happen. Of course,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: this is on top of the matches that were already announced.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: We had Mark Briscoe and MGF I guess they challenged
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: each other. So how are you feeling about the build now?
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: What else needs to happen here? Can you think of
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: any other matches that you would like to see for
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: all out? That makes sense because we do have some
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: belts out there that could be put up.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Uh, I'll say, I want to see Mercedes Monette again
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: versus Alex Windsor. I really do think they would be
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: It was good the first time, but that's another person
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: that needs to lose that belt sooner than later. I
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: don't know when that's gonna happen.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Well, Well, Mercedes Monett's basic Rijo all Alex Windsor's out.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: There's no way the Rijos Mercedes that would just make
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: no sense whatsoever.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I mean the trios, I don't
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: know if they have a match, said well, I don't, No,
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: they don't, And did the tag have anything yet? Or
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: they're going against FTR or.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: No, I have to have tr And and Copeland and
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Christian are going together, you know, Bendido or Brodido don't
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: haven't yet. Uh, but who who's going to challenge him?
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: The kid again? You know, it's it's weird because the
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: weird thing is, you know, it's a good point, like
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: with the Tag teams. I mean, if it was the Outrunners,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: it was somebody else, who knows, it'd be kind of random.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: It's going to be made like ten days before. Yeah,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: there's no really good feud for Brodido right now. There's
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: no really good feud for the Trios right now. So
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what to say about it,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: you know, I just don't know.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: I was going to say the Outrunners did alliance with
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: a Dalton Castle, which is going to be all kinds
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: of fun. So I can see a trios match happening
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: with them maybe one.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Well, well, no, you know, if you're gonna have Dalton
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Castle and the Boys because they were in that promo too,
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: that vignette, Uh with the Outrunners, why not put them
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: against have a meaningful match, at least put him against
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: the Ops.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Well what's going on with Hook though? I mean,
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: is you think Cook's going to get a match at
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: the pay per view?
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't understand anything that's going on with
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: it just seems. It just seems whatever is happening is
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: not working for me. Put it that way, it's I mean,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: I finally, look, aw is pretty much ignored the trio's division,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: and he was part of the trios for a long
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: time with the Ops. He got injured or whatnot, he
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: was replaced by power House Hobbs. That's well and fine.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: The problem I'm running into is that I don't really
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: care about the Ops because they really haven't been given
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: anything to do other than to run in and save
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: people's asses from time to time. But they've not actually
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: gone out there and really won matches or been a
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: force from week to week. Yeah. So if Hook is
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: going to do something, it doesn't need to be with
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Samoa Joe, because Samoa Joe is one of the guys
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: that I would say is a viable contender for the
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: aw Men's Championship. Yeah, you know, I wouldn't mind seeing that,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: but he's stuck with the trios Tam you know, have
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: some Joe go up look and say, hey, look, you
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: can take my spot. This is my belt. I'm going
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: after a hangman page.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like to see Hook maybe try to be
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: a hell for a little bit. I don't think he
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, he was a hell with with Team Tap,
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: but I really by himself. I think it would be
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: interesting to see him go a little bit different direction
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: because he's always kind of been a face since then.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: You know, he's been paired with Dan Housen and Orange
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: Cassidy and whatnot, but he's never really been standing alone
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: by himself a bad guy. Maybe that could work him.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm not a super fan of Hook
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: by any means necessary. I think he's kept around because
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: of Taz, but he needs a different direction for sure.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. I'm not a big fan
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: of Hook as a character. You know that it's just
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: not working. He's not He's not intimidating at all. I mean,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: I'm sure he's a fantastic wrestler and he's a tough
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: guy and whatever, but it just doesn't translate to the
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: screen for me. He just seems like a guy who's
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: just going, I don't want to say going through the motions.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: He's just kind of aimless right now. He doesn't have
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: he needs this niche and he needs to find it
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: and go with it.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've really said he needs to go to Japan
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: or something and learn more and get more in depth
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: in the wrestling field and get a better move set.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, anybody else have any thoughts on the
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: built all out? Are are you satisfied with? You know,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: the matches that we've got so far.
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: I'm pretty happy with them because a certain person's all
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: time favorite wrestler has been challenged by Big Bill. Yeah,
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: so I'm excited.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be a horrible match.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: To put it all, It's gonna be fantastic, terrible. You'd
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: be a very good collition match.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: It would.
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: It would be a very good dark match, and no
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: as many people that are waiting for Eddie to come back,
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: and as excited as people are surrounding that, it'd be huge.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Well, look, this is my thoughts on this, and you
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: guys all know that I am not a fan of
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Eddie Kingston. I don't think he can rest at all,
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: but but think of it as a Big Bill is
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: to me, somebody that you can build on. Eddie Kingston
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: is not. If they were to have a match all out,
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: and God forbid, Eddie Kingston is booked to beat Big
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Bill first of all, that would be one hundred completely
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: unbelievable and it would just, in my mind, in my mind,
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: on a would render. Big Bill should just retire because
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: he can't get any lower. I mean, that's just a
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: blow to his home, his character, his momentum, everything. It
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: would just kill him. Frankly, if they were to have
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: a match at all and Big Bill didn't beat Eddie
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Kingston in I don't know, forty five seconds, it's the
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: same thing to me. To me, because Big Bill should
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: just destroy Eddie Kingston without even batting an eyelash.
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: What is all the hate surrounding Eddie Kingston. I don't
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: understand it.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: It's not hate toward Eddie Kingston. It's a simple fact
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: that he is the worst wrestler on the a W roster.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: I love his character, I love you know him on
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: the mic. He's really good. When he steps in the ring,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: he's awful, He's terrible. He has no wrestling talent. What's
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: now if you guys like that, you know. But I'm
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: just saying it's like, I have the certain type of
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: wrestling that I enjoy, and I don't enjoy watching horrible
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: machine gun chops and three wrestling years and a guy
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: running around with three belt. To me, that was one
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: of the dumbest things that aw has ever done. And frankly,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: having Eddie Kingston come back and getting in a ring
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: unless for some reason during this break he's learned how
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: to wrestle. Fine, you know, but nobody can tell me
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: that they watch Eddie Kingston Kingston to watch him wrestle.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: And I'm sorry. I know how much Jess, and I
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: know how much Nett you love Ready Eddie Kingston, but
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: if you told me that he could beat Big Bill,
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. But now.
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: I don't know. I think anything is possible, so.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Well, anything is impossible. And look, suspension of disbelief is
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: a big part of professional wrestling, and I get that,
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: but this is like, you know, I mean, gold out
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: of my ass. You know, it's like, come on.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: You're forgetting an important thing. The people love Eddie Kingston.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: There's something to be said for the business of putting
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: smiles on faces, That's right.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's great. They love Eddie Kingston, but that
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean you need to put three belts or have
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: him win any matches.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: I'll have him in a tournament, yeah, you have him
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: win at first every tournament. That was not a smart choice.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: That that was preposterous. And people love Eddie Kingston, then
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: why the heck when he had those three belts? Did
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: the ratings fall off the face of the earth when
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: he did that?
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: Because he.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: It was stupid. I look at look when I look
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: at professional wrestling, all right, when you think about look
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: when you think about professional wrestling, when you think about AW,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: who's aw's biggest contender even though they don't think that
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: they're contenders or non competition. It's WWE. You want WWE
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: fans to watch a w and fall in love with it.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: I am sorry, but if at w when AW had
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Eddie Kingston win those three belts, I was like, please God,
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: don't let WW fans watch any of these episodes that
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Eddie Kingston is on because and he's beaten all these
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: big name guys, because they'll never respect AW ever again.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: You know, come on, I mean I understand liking Eddie Kingston.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: I like Eddie king I just don't like him in
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: the ring because he can't wrestle. It's as simple as that. Ah, jeez,
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: you got me going on Eddie Kingston again. Don't bring
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: up Eddie Kingston. I'm going to ban people for talking
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: about Eddie Kingston.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: But I'm out.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: It could be worse. I could have insist on you
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: not calling me Kelson and just calling me, you know,
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: the Golden Child or something like that. Rebelts beansy, Yeah, whatever,
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: you know. It's just I don't know. I've said it
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: before though. I could beat Eddie Kingston in a fight.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: I think that, you know, just sweep the leg and whatever.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Speaking of the sweep of the leg and hurting people,
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: which I would do a Eddie Kingston, he would not
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: be wrestling ever again, ever in his life if if
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: he ever came across me. We had a couple of
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: weeks ago Wardlow returned and immediately hurt himself. Fightful was
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: reporting that Wardlow has torn a peck and he's going
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: to be out for quote unquote some time.
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: That is such a bummer. The guy can't catch a break.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: He cannot catch a break. I want to know, because
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: you guys are kind of Iffy to me, which one
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: of you first? Wardlow seriously, I'd I don't know.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's he can't catch a break. And what's funny
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: is though he was on American Gladiators and didn't urt
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: him so but he slides into the ring and hurts himself.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: So he filled two seasons. He filled two seasons of
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: American Gladiators. They got two seasons, two full seasons. In
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: the can he comes back and in sixteen seconds towards Peck.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Maybe maybe I don't want to be a Debbie Downer,
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: but maybe wrestling's not his jive. I don't know. I mean,
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: maybe he should. He's a good looking guy. Maybe he
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: can do some acting. I don't know, but maybe maybe.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Maybe he could be the next Jack Reacher. Look, you know,
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: American Gladiators was filmed in England, so maybe it's the
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: American air that doesn't agree.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: Maybe he should join.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Repe Maybe he should join repe Bro and enjoy the
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: healthy English countryside air. I don't know. It's I it's
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: I'm frustrated for him. Think of all the ship that
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: he's gone through. You know, his car, he's had his
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: ship stolen out of his car. That was real wasn't cape,
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: and of course they made it into his storyline, but
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: it was real. He you know, somebody in the tenth
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: If somebody in the tenth row sneezes, you know, he's out.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: You know, it's just like, my god, you know, come on,
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, I am seriously rooting for Work because I
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: think he's a cool character and a W has a
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: lack of big guys like that.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: I just I'm sick. I'm heartsick that Wardlow is injured again.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: H yeah, Well as nobody else has anything to say
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: about poor poor old Ward Low in the world. So
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: I know Jess has already said that she has a
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: pote Maurice. So we're gonna go right into our section,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: which is where we talk about anything we want. So, Jess,
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: what do you want to talk about?
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: My current favorite heel in the whole wide world? MJF
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: just got married. There's some pictures of floating around about
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: floating around from the wedding. It was a beautiful affair.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: Both him and Alicia Taut looked gorgeous. Lots of aw people,
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: including Tony conn were in attendance. But this just cracked
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: me the hell up. He was married very recently. I
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: think it was over the weekend. Yeah, I open, and
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: this guy has taken his wedding pictures, photoshopped the AE
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: but you title over Alicia's head and then put the
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: caption soon.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Did he do that?
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Because I think it was Nyla Rose that did that.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that would track.
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: She's hilarious.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, actually act, I don't know if Nyla took the
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: picture from m JF, but I know that I didn't
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: see MJF posting the pictures until actually late this morning,
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: and Nyla Rose posted it last night.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, correct, I just saw it on his Uh well.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: You may be right, you might be right.
• 43:41
  Speaker 7: So, but you know, look I heard, yeah, I heard
• 43:48
  Speaker 7: that Tony Kahn actually moved the Ring of Honor taping
• 43:51
  Speaker 7: so he could go to the wedding, which is kind
• 43:53
  Speaker 7: of cool.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: He moved the tape, not the taping he removed. He
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: moved the pay per view, the Ring of Honor paper view. Yeah.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: So look, when you you got a bunch of wrestlers
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: in the back, seeing that kind of loyalty and Tony
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: conn strikes me. It doesn't matter if it was MJF
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: or I don't know, and Helico, he probably would have
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: done the same thing. You know, Yes, Tony cont has
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: one fault. Maybe his biggest fault is that he's too
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: nice of a guy. And guess what, I have no
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: problem with that, you know. I like the fact that
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: we've got a nice guy that isn't gonna I don't
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: want to say what Fitz McMahon did, but Tony Knt
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: is not going to do any of that.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I really all he does.
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: Tony's amazing. Every time I see him, I just want
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: to give him a big old hug.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Well when I see him, you know, he's a wrestling
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: When I see him, I want to give him a
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: pile driver. He probably appreciate that more on a hug
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: for me. And I mean it, you know, from.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: Love, you know, yeah, of course.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, anybody else have a poste pourrie?
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: Well, as long as we're talking about Tony Kahan, Mavn
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: Huffman of w W Fame went on the Ariel Hawane
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: Show and really spoke well of Tony Kahan. And I
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: appreciate that. You know, a lot of people out there
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: have a lot of negative negativity to say about him,
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: But for someone who's been there and done that and
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: knows a lot about it. He's I really am glad
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: that maybe went on there. But also I guess Stevie
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: Richards went on his little YouTube channel and proceeded to
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: say some bad stuff about that, that Kyle Fletcher needs
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: to learn how to work.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Oh my God knows that. You know what's weird is
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: that Stevie rich Sure his his channel. I don't know
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: if you ever paid attention to his channel, but his
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: channel was more informative about wrestling than anything. In other words,
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: he was doing like videos, a lot of his videos
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: wrestling history and how to do a move and what
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: could go you know if you don't do this. And
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: he's made like two videos or something like that very
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: recently where he's just been engagement farming. I guess I
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: don't know, but yeah, he lost a lot of Yeah.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was in the Ravens with the Raven's Nest
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: or something it's called h and I respect him. He's
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: done some videos on why this move was dangerous. I
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: remember when Phoenix accidentally what happened with him and Moxley.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: He he kind of spoke up about that and that
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: the ref should be a little bit at fault and
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: stuff like that, and I get that, but this has
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: been a rash of old school guys coming out and
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: staying stuff against aw which is not cool, but it's expected.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: But Stevie Richards just need to stay in his land.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: And I really like Fletcher. Fletcher's doing his thing. He
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: knows how to work, he knows how to sell.
• 47:23
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: Like we said before the start of the show, He's
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: really going to be the future and he will be
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: champion one day, sooner than later. Probably.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: He's he's already a tante champion. He's already terrific. Anybody
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: that says that Kyle Fletcher can't work is a moron.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: I am sorry, but they are a moron. I mean,
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: what does Stevie Richards think he is? Who does he
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: think he is Jim Cornett?
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: That's a stretch.
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: I'm completely disappointed because, like you mentioned, he was part
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: of a Raven's Nest in ECW. That story of him
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: and Raven and Pula McGillicutty and Tommy Dreamer is one
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: of my favorite in wrestling, Like Raven versus Tommy Dreamers
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: was actually one of my favorite feuds of all time,
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: and I respected everybody involved a lot, just like you
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: hear him saying that, just wow, disappointed? Yeah, I be.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: Does anybody else have a potpourrid that they want to
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: bring up?
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: Can I do one more? If nobody else is going to.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: Go yeah, I have go ahead?
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: Well did your show?
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: You can go?
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Did not go? Ok?
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: Okay?
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: Just this came up and I figured, why not have
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: a round table discussion about it?
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: Do you think that heels are better when their characters
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: with depth and motivation or when they're just evil for
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: evil's sake? I personally, I very much prefer the former.
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: Some people just preferred like the don callous style of
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: evil heel. No reason they're like that. They're just stick
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: for people for the sake of it.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: You know what, I kind of think a combination of both,
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: because it depends on the wrestler. I mean, back in
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: the day, Abdullah the Butcher was a heel and he
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: did peal things in the ring. I mean, he was
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: just this big you're not familiar with Abdullah the Butcher.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: He was just this big guy that felt no pain
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: and pretty much squashed everybody. And the problem with that
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: is is that if you had him talk and had
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: him a deep character, he would have lost some of
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: that aura. What his aura was, get in the ring,
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: kill people, and get back out. That was it. That
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: was his thing, and he was popular because of it.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: So you've got wrestlers like that, I mean, I mean,
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: you've got I don't know, wrestler's in aw don't speak English.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: Does that mean they can't be a good healer or
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: a good face because they can't. No, you know what
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, because they can't demonstrate that because they're hindered
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: by their language in ambition or you know, their language limitation.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: True, but just because you have a like I'm going
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: to go for kind of a silly example here, but
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: a king. When Kine was first introduced, he didn't talk
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: at all, but he still had a tragic backstory, so
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: there was still like depth to him. He wasn't just
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: like going after to beat up the Undertaker for no reason.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well no, I get that. But by and large,
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: when you have people can't talk, they don't build the
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: backstory like they did with Kane.
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: It's very very few that they times that they do that.
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: So I mean, look at Kamala. I mean, back in
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: the day, he was just scary and uh, but I
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: mean people like m JF make it interest in. Chris
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: Jericho makes his Heill work kind of interesting. I think
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: it really depends on how good you are at your
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: character and how and depth you want it to be.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean wrestlers. There are wrestlers in a w
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: that literally have They do some vignettes, but they don't
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: do live mic work, so their whole area is basically
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: in ring storytelling and some vignettes. I mean, when was
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: the last time you heard say Julia Hart or sky
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: Blue cut a promo? But they're still popular.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but those those vignettes they do really speak for
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: her though, and that's what I think really helps her.
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: I don't remember who does those vignettes for her, but
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: she does a great job.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: Her Twitter handle and her Blue Sky handle is the
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: editor style. She's really talented. Give her a follow. She's
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: on Instagram as well. Very talented, very talented, very interesting watching.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: I like watching when you're looking artists like that. I
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: like watching when they show like behind the scenes of
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: how they do stuff. Remember the picture of Julia Hart
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: where she was standing there and she had like twelve arms.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: Do you remember that pictured that they had there in
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: one of her pignettes, but they she this editorial style,
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: showed how that effect was done, and it was really
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: else and it was nowhere I can't remember now that
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: I think about it, but it was nowhere near how
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: I expected it to be done, which was surprising. So
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: I thought it would be more photoshop I than it
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: actually was.
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: So yeah, don't they do that sort of thing like
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: she like basically like Julia would like be waving her
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: arms and they would leave the camera shutter open.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: I can't remember, I really can't. I do know that
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: there was a process to it, and they did a
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: I think she did a video, uh, showing how it
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: was done, and I think it was on her end. Again,
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: it's the editorial style. Go look it up. I mean
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: you'll probably see some stuff behind the seats, on scenes,
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: on shoots, and I find that kind of stuff fascinating.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: Maybe you guys won't, but hey, she's awesome work. So yeah,
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: so my vignette, my vignette. Listen to me, I'll do
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: it vignette one of these days. My pot pourrix is
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: regarding a totally different wrestling company that Nina Samuels thank
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: you again type of wrestling belongs to wrestles in and
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: that's Pro Wrestling Eve. Now, we all know that Mercedes
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: Monett has spent a considerable amount of time going around
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: the world belts. But it's been interesting that when you
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: look at Pro Wrestling Eve, which is a women's division
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: based in London, they have been using quite a few
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: AW wrestlers as of late. As a matter of fact,
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: Chris is the Pro Wrestling Eve International Champion. Nyla Rose
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: sing EVE World Champion. In the last month, like the
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: day before, the day before Forbidden Door, which was about
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: a month ago. Uh, Julia Hart, Sky Blue, Nyla Rose
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: and Queen Amanada all participated Pro Wrestling Eve event. So
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: and Willow Nightingale is already scheduled or Pro Wrestling Eve,
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: as is Christatlander and and Nyla Rose. They're defending their
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: you know, their belts. So yeah, I mean Pro Wrestling
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: Eve is a really cool, really cool promotion. In fact,
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know if he's still doing it, but will
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: Osprey is heavily, heavily involved. It's where Alex Windsor came
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: to AW from and will Osprey is involvement with that
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: is he produces the shows. Now with his surgery and
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: everything coming up. I don't know if he's going to
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: be doing that, but yeah, I mean you go follow
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: will Osprey on X You're going to see will Ospray
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: talking about Pro Wrestling EVE quite a bit. And Pro
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: Wrestling EVE shows are viewable on their YouTube channel. It
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: is a subscription. You have to have their high Tier
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: YouTube channel subscription to be able to watch the shows,
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: and it's nine to nine a month to be able
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: to watch the shows, and you get a librariy. So yeah,
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: their shows are very interesting. I very interesting. I not
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: gonna lie to you. The first time I watched the
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: show for Pro Wrestling Game, I was like, what am
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: I watching?
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: In a good way? I'm not saying that in a
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: bad way. You had wrestling matches, A burlesque performer came
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: out and basically took off all our clothes, and then
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: you had more wrestling matches, an intermission, more wrestling matches,
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: another less performer come out and take off all more
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: wretchling wrestling matches. Very weird stuff. Kind of when I
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: say take off our clothes, you know, like down to
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: like a thong and pasties that it's not due to that,
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: but I'm like, what did they do it? What does
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: this have to do? They must have some kind of
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: partnership with burlesque shows. I don't know, but it's just
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: it's not bad, but it's really weird. Uh yeah, but
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: uh but the matches themselves are really good, and I
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: I have learnedstler. I mean I was familiar with Nina
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: Samuels because I believe it was last year Nina Samuels
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: was an aaw and Russell Day tag team match against
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: I think it was Willow and Chris Statlander. I'm not
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: sure if I may have that wrong, but you did
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: do a tag team match last year. Then there's a
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: rustler named Rio, not to be confused with Rijo, who
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: is just wow, she is just a beast.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: I like h.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: And then you have you know, uh Sapphire Reid who
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: is young and hungry, Ashley Vaughn. You know, it's I mean,
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: there's some really talented women there. And I love the
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: fact that a w's Women's division are going to London
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: getting the work and they're again they're networking like Mercedes
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: monet is and making a W. Moore popular globally. Why
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: not right? And they're getting they're getting the pops. They
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: really are. They're well loved and the wrestling fans over
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: in England are very educated about about the AW stars
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: that go over there. And that's my poteoary. Does anybody
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: else have one? All?
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: Then, well we will be back tomorrow night right after
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: aw Dynamite to give our thoughts about the show, and
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: of course next Tuesday night, eight forty five Eastern time
• 59:35
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• 59:40
  Speaker 2: out preview and prediction show. It's always fun, a lot
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: of different thoughts, a lot of different a lot of
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: different I don't know how do you put it? Fantasy
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: booking to the extreme as often goes on. But we'll
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• 1:00:04
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• 1:00:12
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