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Does the Broncos win over the Packers make them AFC Favorites? NFL Week 15 Reactions! · The So-Called Sports Analysts

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  Speaker 1: Poppet things. That's all showed you, Like the first five
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  Speaker 1: seconds or.
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  Speaker 2: So, I just looked like an autistic kid.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, great way to start off, woke. Welcome back to
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  Speaker 1: the meeting of Brownie, episode number one forty five. So
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  Speaker 1: called sports atalyst. God, how are y'all doing?
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  Speaker 2: Living the dream?
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  Speaker 3: Brother?
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  Speaker 2: I'm I mean, I'm on cloud nine right now. I'm
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  Speaker 2: as high as you can be.
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  Speaker 3: And let me tell you, let me tell you Johnny Furfy,
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  Speaker 3: Victor Wimby Yama.
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  Speaker 2: Hell yeah, bro, I fucked with.
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  Speaker 3: Period, Stefan Castle period, Dylan Harper period, de Aaron Fox period,
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  Speaker 3: Mitch Johnson, Mitch Johnson the coach of the year period.
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  Speaker 1: No honestly greatest press one run by Wimby in like
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  Speaker 1: a day, like he said before that day, called chet
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  Speaker 1: mid and then said I'm the best player in the
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  Speaker 1: league and proceeds in like twenty seven minutes.
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  Speaker 4: He just knows how to talk crap without like sounding like.
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  Speaker 1: It just sounds like I don't.
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  Speaker 3: It just sounds like the dude. He basically he basically
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  Speaker 3: They basically asked him like, okay, like how do you
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  Speaker 3: feel about your in check yours in chech rivalry?
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  Speaker 4: And he was like if he just to score when
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  Speaker 4: you have the m v P on Yeah, Like it.
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  Speaker 5: Was like it was like particularly like it was basically
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  Speaker 5: it was basically saying like I'm not worried about you
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  Speaker 5: because we are nowhere near the same level. Like like Frenchman,
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  Speaker 5: why do he only push it because they're the same
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  Speaker 5: hYP Like if you watch games, Chet never won on
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  Speaker 5: ones Wimby. Wimby always guards him, Like Chet has never
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  Speaker 5: scored face up on Wimby ever, Like he's only scored
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  Speaker 5: on on catch and shoot threes on Wimby.
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  Speaker 3: That's it, Like he's never and the one a couple
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  Speaker 3: of times. He's tried blocked for a game winner last
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  Speaker 3: year and then block this year. So it's like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: I know there's the football. We haven't had our NBA pod,
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  Speaker 3: But think about this. When Wimby was on the court
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  Speaker 3: the thunder winning, the paint only touched rim three times
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  Speaker 3: and one of them went in because it was a
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  Speaker 3: dump off to Chet home grin. When Wimby basically took
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  Speaker 3: him out of the play, took Shaye out of the play.
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  Speaker 4: Think about that.
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  Speaker 3: The team that gets to the paint most in the
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  Speaker 3: entire NBA only got to only touch rim three times
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  Speaker 3: getting into the paint when Wimby played right and now
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  Speaker 3: let's just there.
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  Speaker 1: Oh quick, quick, quick, quickly, quickly breckon, who's your NBA team? Decide?
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Matt, right now, I see.
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  Speaker 2: I was I was thinking, should should Cliff already? Okay? Okay,
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  Speaker 2: should we clip this? Make it a TikTok and have
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  Speaker 2: the comments vote on on your.
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  Speaker 3: Team on my team because would be your team that can.
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  Speaker 2: Be my team. So to give everyone a rundown, I'm
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  Speaker 2: a huge Westbrook fan, as we all know, right, but
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going on for okay, see, because I don't
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  Speaker 2: fuck with SGA and unethical basketball. So I'm between the Spurs.
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  Speaker 2: I've gone to two Spurs games whenever I was younger,
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  Speaker 2: like like whenever what's his name Derek White was there
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  Speaker 2: and he was their best player. So so like I
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  Speaker 2: could say I was a Day one Spurs guy. MAVs.
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  Speaker 2: I live in DFDA.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm a Day one Spurs fan.
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  Speaker 2: So the other team is the MAVs. I live in
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  Speaker 2: df W. I mean I love Cooper Flag coming out,
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  Speaker 2: and the other team is Indie. I've been a Haliban guy.
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  Speaker 2: I've always loved him. I mean, I mean just you know,
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  Speaker 2: the run, and they're bad enough right now that if
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  Speaker 2: I hop on, they got that one white boy that
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  Speaker 2: works in nine to five and then bangs threes in
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  Speaker 2: the chip like and Johnny Fey, the Aussie boy. So
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  Speaker 2: I mean, hey, comments, decide which team am I gonna
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  Speaker 2: go for? Is it Indy? Is it the MAVs or
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  Speaker 2: is it the Spurs. I'm kind of I'm not gonna lie.
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  Speaker 1: You're leaning Spurs.
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  Speaker 2: I'm hoping I am because I do love Wenby.
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  Speaker 1: I love SATs so much. It'd be on Saints level,
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  Speaker 1: but like you'd actually see like the benefits like of
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  Speaker 1: a good team and the.
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  Speaker 2: Player to say, bro, did your team win this week?
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  Speaker 1: No they didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, let.
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  Speaker 1: Me let me do my intro. Then we'll get to
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  Speaker 1: your Saints right here, switch discord, TikTok, Instagram and YouTube.
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  Speaker 1: But your TSCSA or the so called sports chanalysts, well
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  Speaker 1: you listen to this live or another day, we appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: Makes sure you show this anyway. I like sports all right,
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  Speaker 1: Like Brainlet was saying, this is two weeks in a row,
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  Speaker 1: Chiefs and Cowboys lose and the Saints win once again
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  Speaker 1: kind of ruining the Panthers chances at the playoffs. They
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  Speaker 1: win twenty to seventeen, two game win streak. All right,
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  Speaker 1: breckon floor is yours?
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  Speaker 2: What I mean? What can I say? Dude? It's like
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  Speaker 2: a dude, I just love this team. Man. When we
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  Speaker 2: are statistically eliminated, what do we do? We We just
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  Speaker 2: play spoil. I love it.
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  Speaker 3: I love playing spoiler than he is.
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  Speaker 2: I I will say, I'm a mother shucker. Shuck that thing, dude.
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  Speaker 2: He's just he's playing Roman ball. And to be honest,
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  Speaker 2: he was statistically really good this game. I love going
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  Speaker 2: into the statistics as you guys know.
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  Speaker 4: Would say he outplayed Bryce Young.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I would.
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  Speaker 2: I would say that, Yes, he did out play Bryce.
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  Speaker 1: You love, I don't, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I know Josh didn't watch the game, Fonzo, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if you did. But the whole game, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: gonna lie. It was a big nothing burger. Like we
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  Speaker 2: both scored in the first like first drive, you know,
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  Speaker 2: looked really like it was gonna be high scoring, and
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  Speaker 2: then it was like nothing burger, just punts in a
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  Speaker 2: field goal. That was it. And then in the fourth quarter,
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  Speaker 2: second to last drive. Chris Olave is like, I got you, shuck,
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  Speaker 2: let me put the team on my back, and what
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  Speaker 2: did the Lave go out there do? He caught five
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  Speaker 2: straight passes for sixty five yards in a touchdown, and
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  Speaker 2: then what did he do after that? He also got
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  Speaker 2: the game ceiling first down on the insinuating drive. Absolutely beautiful,
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  Speaker 2: and we have Is that the word? That's the one
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  Speaker 2: I pulled it? That's the one I pulled. Word of
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  Speaker 2: the day. He's smiling. I got him cheasing right now? Okay?
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  Speaker 2: And then guess what happened? We cut we log thank you,
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  Speaker 2: thank you. Uh, pull that one out whenever you want to.
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  Speaker 2: You don't have the credit me. We cut Blake groupie.
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  Speaker 2: And what happens? Back to back wins because of our kicker,
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  Speaker 2: That boy Smith Bro. He's an he's an Irish guy.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen the postgame. Absolute beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: He was in there. I'm telling you, lads, we won
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  Speaker 2: this one. We won this one. I'll bang it through
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  Speaker 2: the oat rights every day, dude. Absolute beautiful post game.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Saints Saints football is the football to watch
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  Speaker 2: right now as we're going into draft season. Oh okay,
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  Speaker 2: Oh you guys got a worst draft pick. I don't care.
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  Speaker 2: I don't care. We're still gonna get Ruben Bain. Like
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  Speaker 2: we're we're chilling in my opinion, I just want to
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  Speaker 2: beat our division rivals. We can lose out the rest
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  Speaker 2: of the games. I'm cool with that, but as long
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  Speaker 2: as we beat our rivals. We fucked over the Bucks.
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  Speaker 2: We fucked over the Panthers. We swept them, and the
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  Speaker 2: Falcons got away with one, but hey, we're gonna fuck
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  Speaker 2: them over on the next one. Okay, Hey, you know, Shuck,
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  Speaker 2: Shuck does look good. And then now the Panthers have
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  Speaker 2: to win out and I think that they have the
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  Speaker 2: chance to. I like the Panthers to make the playoffs
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  Speaker 2: more than the Bucks, just because I feel like the Panthers,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, besides, this game were ramping up and the
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  Speaker 2: Bucks were kind of slowing down. But I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Shuck looked really good. Like I said, I think he
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  Speaker 2: only had like four or five incompletions until that fourth quarter,
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  Speaker 2: and then he started like clocking it and like throwing
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  Speaker 2: it out of bounds to let the clock run out,
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  Speaker 2: and then he racked up a few more so like
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  Speaker 2: on thirty five drop backs, he had like twenty nine completions,
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  Speaker 2: so it looked really good throughout the whole entire day.
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  Speaker 2: And then also you stack on like the fifty plus
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  Speaker 2: rushing yards and the rushing touchdown where it was complete great.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you see that breaks the sack
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  Speaker 2: runs it in. I mean, Chase Young recently has looked
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  Speaker 2: actually decent. He doesn't look like, you know, the top
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  Speaker 2: five pick that he was, but he's looking like he's
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  Speaker 2: worth that two year contract, and I'm excited to see
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  Speaker 2: him play a little bit more. Cameron Jordan turned back
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  Speaker 2: the clock, got a sack in this game. He's at
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  Speaker 2: six and a half on the year, which isn't a lot,
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  Speaker 2: but for a guy that's forty years old, you know,
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  Speaker 2: that's that's what you want out of your guy. And
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  Speaker 2: then also a couple of our our rookies, you know
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  Speaker 2: or just young bucks in the in the dB room
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  Speaker 2: are really balling out, you know, basically shut down teder
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  Speaker 2: Roe McMillan. I think he only had like two catches
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  Speaker 2: maybe three catches in the whole entire game. Just I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Saints just playing good ethical football and found a way
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  Speaker 2: to win against our division rivals today or yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, Shuck Shuck looked good. And okay, I'll say
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  Speaker 1: this before you move on. If you switch Tyler Shuck
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  Speaker 1: and Bryce Young, Josh, just question. I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: ask reckon this. If you switch Tyler Shuck and Bryce
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  Speaker 1: Young teams, how good do you think the Panthers would
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  Speaker 1: be right now? And how bad do you think the
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  Speaker 1: Saints would be right now?
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  Speaker 3: I just I think I think the Panthers would be
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  Speaker 3: ten and three, and I think the Saints you can't
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  Speaker 3: even be ten and three, two and eleven.
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  Speaker 1: No, they'd be ten and three.
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  Speaker 2: No, with they'd find a way, they'd find a way
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  Speaker 2: to get that extra buy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just be can see I'm chucked they have
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  Speaker 1: an extra buy no book. Okay, since since you brought
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  Speaker 1: it up, we'll go ahead and bring it up first
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  Speaker 1: before it goes to the AFC part of things. So,
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  Speaker 1: like you were talking about the Bucks, they lose once
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  Speaker 1: again Thursday Night Football after having a double digit lead,
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  Speaker 1: and the Falcons come back and win twenty nine to
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  Speaker 1: twenty eight. And also Kyle Pitts had the greatest game,
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  Speaker 1: and so twenty twenty one we finally saw his first
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  Speaker 1: real game. So I'll let whoever goes first right here?
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  Speaker 2: What'd y'all think, Chiefs Kingdom?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, what about? What do you mean, Chiefs Kingdom?
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  Speaker 2: I'm just reading your name, brother, What do you think
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  Speaker 2: about Pitts?
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  Speaker 3: Honestly, I mean I didn't have any real like thoughts.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, gaming over there cried about it for like
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  Speaker 3: a couple of days because he went off against to
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  Speaker 3: MC fantasy football me. But honestly, I really don't know
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  Speaker 3: how to feel about this game. I mean, I feel
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  Speaker 3: more for the Ten Bay Buccaneers and for the Falcons,
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  Speaker 3: like they just went in there and played the absolute
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  Speaker 3: greatest ball on that they could have played. Bejon apologize
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  Speaker 3: for saying smear the queer on on that and it
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  Speaker 3: shouldn't have done it, shouldn't have done it. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you didn't have to apologize, brother, We didn't. We didn't care.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's what it was, what it was called.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I called it as a kid too.
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  Speaker 2: And then some people were saying that it was like
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  Speaker 2: like catch the something. They were called it something else
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  Speaker 2: that catch the robber or something like that, and I
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  Speaker 2: was like, I've never heard that in my life. I've
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  Speaker 2: always heard the.
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  Speaker 4: Heck is that even mean, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I've never I've never heard that one before.
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  Speaker 3: And Big Krko Bangs having a good day. You know,
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  Speaker 3: it's been it's been a while since we've seen a
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  Speaker 3: Big kirk O day. So honestly, for the Falcons, I
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  Speaker 3: just think this. I don't know what this does for them, honestly,
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  Speaker 3: like nothing. It's a little carrier as far as the book.
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  Speaker 3: They're putting themselves in a really tough position because now
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  Speaker 3: they're on the verge of missing the playoffs, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and they're lucky that the Carolina Panthers drop this game
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  Speaker 3: because they're still within the fight for to win the division.
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  Speaker 3: But really it's all hands on deck now. I do
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  Speaker 3: think that Mike Evans did open up the offense a
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  Speaker 3: little bit more Baker Mayfield and the Mega Buka. They're
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  Speaker 3: kind of losing that connection that they had at the
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  Speaker 3: earlier in the season, and they kind of need to
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  Speaker 3: get that back for this team, I think to really
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  Speaker 3: get things moving forward, and I do think a lot
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  Speaker 3: of it, maybe Bucky Irving, they have to really lean
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  Speaker 3: upon the run game more than they do and take
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  Speaker 3: the ball out of Baker Mayfield's hand where they're not
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  Speaker 3: forcing so many things and even honestly, if it's not
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  Speaker 3: just Bucky Irving, like, get the other two backs involved,
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  Speaker 3: get Sean Tucker, get Rishawan White involved, Let this offense
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  Speaker 3: really get cooking slowly because they do have the option
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  Speaker 3: to do that. They have three good running backs that
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  Speaker 3: can handle a workload, and to get this offense back
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  Speaker 3: on track, because I do think that this Buccaneers off
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  Speaker 3: team can only go as far as the offense takes them.
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  Speaker 3: Like the defense is good, but they're not what they
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  Speaker 3: used to be at least, And then as of right now,
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  Speaker 3: if it's it's Baker or bust for this team, and
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  Speaker 3: they have to be able to put him in the
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  Speaker 3: best opportunity, best position is to create the best opportunity
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  Speaker 3: for them to win football games.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, go ahead, go ahead, You're good.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna. I was just gonna say, Man, I
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  Speaker 2: agree completely. Like I don't know why the Bucks I
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  Speaker 2: feel like they straight away from Bucky. I think he
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  Speaker 2: was averaging like six and a half yards of carry
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  Speaker 2: at one point, and like, why straight away from that
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  Speaker 2: he only had like twelve carries or thirteen carries on
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  Speaker 2: the game. I know that he caught a couple of
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  Speaker 2: passes and broke one off for a long one in
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  Speaker 2: a touchdown, And so it's like, why why not lean
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  Speaker 2: on Bucky. He's coming back from injury. We seen last
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  Speaker 2: week him just like take control of this offense. I
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  Speaker 2: get that Mike Evans is back, but some of those
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  Speaker 2: throws that Baker was making the Mike Evans looked extremely forced.
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  Speaker 2: I think he ended the day with over twelve targets,
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  Speaker 2: which is insane on your first game back. And then
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  Speaker 2: he ended up reaggravating that shoulder there for a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: And so it's like he's thirty plus years old, he's
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: on the wrong side of that road, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: you're completely relying upon him rather than your rookie superstar.
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  Speaker 2: And then whenever you are targeting him, it's not the
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  Speaker 2: easy slants, the easy stops, the you know, the easy stuff.
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  Speaker 2: You're targeting him on a crosser where you're throwing it
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  Speaker 2: behind him and you're expecting him to make a miraculous play,
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  Speaker 2: which you know. I brought it up before the pod.
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  Speaker 2: The last six weeks, I've seen somewhere that Baker Mayfield
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  Speaker 2: has the lowest catchable target rate when throwing twenty yards
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  Speaker 2: downfield or bottom three in the NFL, which is just
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  Speaker 2: horrible company, which is the complete opposite of what they
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: were early on in this season. And then also for
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  Speaker 2: the Buccaneers, this defense, they need to fire their head coach.
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: He's a defensive oriented guy and this defense is their
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  Speaker 2: biggest weakness, especially with the secondary. And then I know
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  Speaker 2: that there were some injuries in this game, but I mean,
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  Speaker 2: your defensive oriented guy in your defense has never been
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  Speaker 2: top ten. Like, I'm sorry, get rid of him. I
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: thought that should have got rid of him last year
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  Speaker 2: and and maybe moved up Liam Cohen. In my mind,
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  Speaker 2: that's what made the most sense. But I get wanting
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  Speaker 2: to stick with your guy. But I think after this season,
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna kind of realize, like, shit, dude, we're in
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  Speaker 2: the worst division in the NFL. This is the chance
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  Speaker 2: that you guys have to you know, like like the
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: divisions yours for the last four years and probably is
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  Speaker 2: like yours to keep for the next you know, three
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  Speaker 2: to four years, because nobody's got a quarterback and nobody's
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  Speaker 2: got a good team.
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  Speaker 4: I don't have the best roster. They have the best
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  Speaker 4: roster in the division. It's not even like a debate, And.
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  Speaker 2: So like, why go with the defensive oriented guy, like
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: go with the offensive guy, go with the go with
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  Speaker 2: the risk, go with the Mike McDaniel, you know, take
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  Speaker 2: the risk because the rest of your division is so
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: bad that, like you can drop a couple of games
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  Speaker 2: and be seven and seven and still make the you know,
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  Speaker 2: be able to compete for the playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: So it's just kind of hard to do that because
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: Todd Bowles was like grand followed in by Bruce Hand.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I get that, but if guy, you do have.
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  Speaker 3: To take risks, and I do think this is gonna
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: they're gonna take a look in the mirror. They do
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  Speaker 3: ultimately miss the playoffs, It's just kind of one of
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: those things where if they make the playoffs, he's gonna
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: be there. I think he's in that mic. He's not
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  Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin or he's not Jim Harball. But I do
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: think that they tom like, no, no, I'm saying, but
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  Speaker 3: they do view him in that way. I do think
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  Speaker 3: that the organization respects Todd Bowles enough to where it's like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: if you get us there, we'll keep you. But if
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: I think if he misses, it's gonna be a real
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: like I look in the mirror.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: I feel like it's so different because Mike Tomlin that
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: division is so much better and like that his resume,
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: like the resume like, yes, you're barely making the playoffs
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: and you're not winning, right, and I get that, and
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: that gets annoying year in year out. But he's also
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: going against you know, the Bengals, the Rave like one
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: of the like literally like debatable the best division in
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: the NFL compared to Todd Bowles is going against hands
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: like hands down the worst division. Yeah, like it's not
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: even close. Like the whole division has a negative point
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: differential on the season, like no other division is like that.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Like the leader right now is the Bucks.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: I'm having a negative the respect that the organization has
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: for Todd Bowls.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: That makes sense. He's actually been like in in that
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: locker room for almost what ten no, not ten years,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: at least like at least five plus years something like that.
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: Almost a decade.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's been almost ten years.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: He was six years. He's been there for at least
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: six years.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe seven, No, but okay, So that's what I
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: was going to bring up. As far as Todd Bowles,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: like nobody talks about it, like Okay, they made a
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: mistake firing or not firing, letting Dave Canalis walk out
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: the door in offensive guru, and then you let Liam
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Cohen the same thing. You can't be making the same
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: mistake twice. And I don't know the exact stat but
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: you look at all the great teams, they all have
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: offensive minded coaches. And I'm not gonna say the Buffalo
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Bills because they have Josh Allen on their side. He's
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: a freak of nature. But if you look at all
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: the other ones, you look at the Rams, Sean McVay,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: you look at the Bears, Ben Johnson, Andy Reid, you
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: have all these offensive guys and the ones that are
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: kind of struggling, were teetering right now. They have guys
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: that are defensive or like in the middle, like a
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: John Harball, Sean McDermott. Those those type of guys are
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Todd Bowles. So even look at the Falcons, look at
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Raheem Morris. So it's like head coaches need to be offensive.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: That's that's just the name of the game. Now, there's
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: there's no way around it. But okay, the only.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: One is the Texans that I feel like is the exception.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: But like yeah, but like the exception is they like
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: they focused on their defense. Yeah, like they drafted defensive guys. Like,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: in my mind, the Bucks not go out and take
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: an edge in this draft where you took Abuka. I
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: get Abuka has been great, it's he's a first round
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: pick and he's totally worth it, but based on team need,
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: why not take an edge there? Yeah?
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: No, it is true, And okay, I mean also if
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: you look at their standpoint, Mike Evans is getting older,
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: Chris Godwin continues to miss time.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: No, and I get that, but preseason injured as well.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: So it's like, also, but McMillan.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Got injured in preseason if he didn't get injured like
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: pre draft, So like you get the McMillan and then
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: you get you know, Mike Evans was coming in healthy,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Chris Godwin was coming in healthy, like like I'm saying,
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: like during the draft process, Yeah, but.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: But this had been two years, two or three years
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: in a row where Chris Godwin literally missed the like
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: ten plus games, Like it wasn't where like he was
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: he was health for sure, healthy like the team knows
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: best how healthy he is. And obviously when he came
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: back he played one game and then missed seven games
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: like after that, so and then he finally came back.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: I get that, but in my mind, I would much
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: rather take an edge like like James Pierce was there,
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: James was there, and then get somebody out.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Because like I would love the Chiefs like and for
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: me personally, I take a chance on on on a
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: playmaker rather than go for a need like you're saying,
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: because how are you gonna on bigger success right now
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: is continue to surround him with good weapons. And in
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: this stretch, it's not like the Buccaneers offense has been
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: bad like they've been. They've still been putting up points.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: It's just kind of like it's just they're not connecting
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: right now.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Gosh, I'm sorry you sound so hypocritical because week in
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: week out you talk about how horrible Xavier Worthy is
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: and he was a first round pick.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: But I don't think I think I don't think he
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: was the best player available. I did not want Xavier Worthy,
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: but like that's.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: That's my point.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: He was like, why not go Xavier Worthy?
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: To be fair, I'm just saying, like you're telling him
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: to surround them like Xavier Worthy fastest forty yard dash,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Like you want to talk about a guy, he's no
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: draft week receiver, no, and I get that, but like
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: a guy pre draft you look at and you're like,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: this guy is gonna launch Mahomes. We don't. We don't
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: have a wide receiver one right now. He's gonna help
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: launch mahomes career. This guy has all the physical attributes,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: he's extremely fast, and we've seen what he could do
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: with Tyreek Hill. Right, take all that aside, and then
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: you guys pass up on defensive linemen and you know
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: some maybe you guys could have tooken a guard or
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: a tackle or something like that. And look at you
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: now where you're saying the complete opposite, where you're like
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: xavier' Worthy like wasn't worth a first round pick.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: And he was when we made the pick, I know, but.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: You're saying that argument for the Bucks makes sense, like,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, go out there, go get a And I
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: agree Abuca was worth that first round pick. He was
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: totally there. But I'm saying, as a team standpoint, as
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: a defensive oriented guy, why not go out and get
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: a James Pearce, a Jalen Walker, you know, one of
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: these great edge players or or like another alongside something.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: The thing is with the Buccaneers, though they're continually like
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: a good enough defense, like I I think they they're
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: relying upon keeping up with teams in the NFC like
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: the Rams and the Lions and the.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: They Cousins throw for four hundred yards?
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: What do you mean they with them?
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: They kept up because of their because it wasn't because
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: of Abuca. It was not because of Abuca.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but even then at Buca opens up the field
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: and allows one on one coverage in Mike Evans reckon.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: I I get that, but I'm saying pre draft, why
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: why go out? I'm saying I get it, he was
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: worth the pick, But as a team, I'm sitting back.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: I have a defensive minded head coach, I have a
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: debatable Hall of Fame wide receiver, another guy that's pretty solid,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: and then a couple of young bucks that I can
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: throw in there. Right. You even ended up drafting Chess
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Johnson as well, So it's like you have a couple
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: of young bucks. You have you have Kateaughton, who was
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: coming off of a pretty good season. I know this
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: year has been underwhelming, but then going into the season,
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: you're like Okay, we have a couple of good receiving threats.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Why would you be like, let's go get a Buka
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: In the first I get he was totally worth, he
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: was best player available, But why not go out.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: And get for like the Eagles when they constantly draft
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: just defensive linemen, when they have a playthrough, when they
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: can go after other positions that are of more need,
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: and then you can look at like, dude, I just
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: slipped my mind when I was just thinking, when I
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: was thinking about coming back to you, the other team
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: I was thinking of. But the Eagles, like the Eagles
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: continuously go after players they don't need. And we look
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: at the Lions. The Lions did not need to get
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: Jamior Gibbs when they got Jamior Gibbs, but they went
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: after the big playability after signing David Montgomery and still
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: having and like letting like players like DeAndre Swift and
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: the couples walk Away who can still continue to make
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: big plays. And even when they drafted Jamison Williams, they
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: didn't need Jamison Williams, but look at what they did.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: They still ended up getting him and they made the
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: team a lot better. They waited a whole year for him.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: I feel like those guys Ava's I feel like those
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: guys fit what they do.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it doesn't years like sometimes best player available. That's
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: that's where it's even though, Like I just feel like,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: as far as like a draft philosophy, you look at
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: all of the great great teams, they go best player
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: available nine times out of ten, and it's just the
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Xavier Worthy that just didn't happen to pan out. If
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Xavier Worthy last year, everybody was praising that pick because
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: look how insane he went down the stretch. It's just
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: he's having a bad year as of right now. It's
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: just that's the that's the risk of taking best player available. Yes,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: you may have a crazy need like the Buccaneers they
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: have in defense, but whenever it was working at the
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: beginning of the year Abuka, nobody was saying, oh, that
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: was a bad first pick.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: I literally whenever he got drafted, I was like, why
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: why would they draft? Because I really liked Abukla coming out.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: He was my favorite receiver in this class. I was like,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: why would they draft Abuka? Like that just didn't make sense.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: And then in my mind I was like, he's not
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: gonna be the one there for a year or two.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Granted there was injuries, there was stuff that happened, right,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: but my point is, like, these guys don't fit the
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: identity of the team. The Eagles they're taking best player
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: available every single year because they're picking in the bottom
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: twenty five. The Bucks aren't that good of a team.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Drafted Jaylen Carter eighth overall. Brickin' there was, I think,
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: but they got that pick.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: They didn't like like they're taking best player available because
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: they're a Super Bowl contending team. I'm telling you, going
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: into the season, we knew the Bucks flaws and they
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: didn't address any.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Of the third overall and Nolan Smith's like they they
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: continuously exactly.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Whenever, whenever you're a great team
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: that is competing for Super Bowls and have a pedigree,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: you can do stuff like that. I'm saying the Bucks
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: that team at that point going into the draft. You
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: didn't have a great pick. You're a defensive oriented guy.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: You know your defense is struggling. It was struggling last year.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: That's why they lost their playoff game.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: If you look at the Buccaneers, I feel like they
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: they know that when they've played their best is when
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: the offense has been able to keep up with other teams.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: They took the Lines to the brink two years in
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: a row in the playoffs, not because of their defense,
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: but because their offense was able to continuously answer the
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: bell every single time. And then when the Philadelphia Eagles
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: were literally the favorites going into the playoffs and they
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: absolutely obliterated them first game of the play two years ago.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: I don't remember because me and Fonso watched it at
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: Hooters with his dad, like it wasn't even a close
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: and why not because their defense held it down, but
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: because their offense was able to keep attacking the team
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: no matter what. And having Baker Mayfield allows you to
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: do that because he's gonna push the ball down the
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: field when you need him to. So I feel like mine,
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: They're like, let's go add another weapon for when these
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: guys are done. He can he has like Buka and
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: he's learning behind Mike Evans, learning behind Chris Godwin.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: But no cause.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: But they didn't expect Abuka to take off like he
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: did like the first couple weeks of the season. He
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: obviously he's falling off, but I think it just happens
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: with the rookie receivers. They go into us. Look at Ted.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: Ted's not a consistent receiver this year, and he's the
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: number one guy.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: I just I feel like, if you're if your defense
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: is bottom ten, like address that. Address that first. Get that.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: With Todd Bowles, I'll say this, Okay, you wouldn't think
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: as far as if you're a defensive guy, you could say, Okay,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I know we just drafted a Mecca at BUKA. I
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: can make this bottom ten defense. I can make them
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: average because I am a defensive coach. You could do
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: more with less.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: I get that.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: I get it could be that kind of thinking. And
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: also it kind of shures up like wide receivers back then, Yes,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: it used to be luxuries, but now in a passing offense,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: it's a necessity to have a good wide receiver too.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: And like you were saying, all the injuries and everything
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: that that happened, so yes, it was kind of a
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: luxury pick at at the moment, but now it's necessarily needed.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: And again, if Todd Bowles comes back, you know for
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: sure come April and they're in free agency, that's going
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: to be their main addressing point because they have Vitaveta
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Vita Vea, Antoine Winfield. Who knows how long Leavonte David
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: is there, But they can just defense.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: Any of both those guys have, you know.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: So it's kind of one of those things like they're
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: still they're Vida Bea is not getting any younger. He's
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: probably the best run stopping defensive tackle, but he's not
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: getting any younger now. But all right, well, dang, statistically
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: that dude dog does he have?
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: I will I'm looking. I'm looking at the Bucks draft class.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: They did draft some defensive guys. None of them panned out.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: My favorite Benjamin Morris out of Notre Dame. I don't
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: know if you remember him. He tore his a c
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: L and he ended up falling in the draft into
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: the second round. So I like that pick. And he
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: hasn't really played at all this season, So like, I
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: get that, And that's kind of what they need, is
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: like corner safety. Yeah, so maybe you can make the argument.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: It makes sense Breckin, Like I I do.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: Think Mispick after Mispick ultimately leads to like the detriment
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: of the team. Like I know, we're probably gonna talk
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about my team in a minute. But like,
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: like I think missing on draft, I do appreciate the
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: Buccaneers swinging for the fences with Megaka, like I wish
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: the Chiefs did that more often.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: I mean you, you you play conservative, you.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: Draft Skuy More over George Pickens, You draft If Felix
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: and u dk Uzelma over over Joey Port and you
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: when you know Lugerious needs on contract, and then you
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: you draft McCole Hardman over DK Metcalf, even though I
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: don't like DK Metcalf, Like I mean DK Metcalf or
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: McCole Hardman, Like.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: You're you're going on guys that are the same position.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: I'm arguing, like completely different sides.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: No, but but they're going after guys that are fitting
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: team need, like like teams specific, Like you're trying to argue,
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: like you're trying to go after.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Like taking a Worthy because he's a speedster.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying, yeah, instead.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Of as far as the Tyreek kill mold, like they
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: try to find like having a fit is overrated compared
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: to the best player available, because whenever that best player
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: available hits, it's it's amazing. It's amazing.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: How I felt whenever, like going into the draft, like
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: because Adni Mitchell and Worthy went in the same year, right.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was like, I would rather Mitchell Mitchell.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Because ada Ni Mitchell pre combine was projected to go
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: like in the first round, and then the Combine happened
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: and he ran like a four to four, like he
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: ran a really slow forty especially for his size, and
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: saying well for his for his size, for his size
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: and weight, and going in, you know, people were hyping
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: it up like, oh, yeah, he's gonna run like a
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: four to two five, and then he runs a four
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: to four to one or something like that.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: It's like, ah, yeah, that is that's insane. But yeah,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: the Bucks down the stretch, they have the Panthers twice,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: so that's gonna determine the NFC South. And we if
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: we would have said this before the episode thirty minutes
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: on the NFC South, as soon as we start, I
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have expected that one.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: I will I will say, like I get that, like, yes,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: the Panthers can just beat the Bucks twice and make
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: the playoffs. But I think the Bucks are such a
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: shoe in because even if they split with the Panthers,
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: they're going against the Dolphins and the Panthers are going
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: against the Seahawks. That's the difference. Like, like, I'm sorry,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: I don't think you guys are gonna win that the
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Seahawks are still gonna be competing for that one seed.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: So I think this is this is hands down the
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Bucks like seasons to lose.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no for sure, But all right, well let's
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: go in and or let's go out and get this
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: last NFC game out of the way. As far as
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: just NFC versus NFC game right here, the Rams and
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: the Lions, which a game where scored a bunch of
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: points right here, forty one to thirty four, and the
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Rams hang on to that one seed for now. So
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: what'd y'all take from this one right here?
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: Honestly, I feel it's just one of those things that
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: Detroit Lions injuries are going to continue to be a
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: problem for them two years in a row, like like
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: they're supposed to take this next step into being the
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl con the Super Bowl winning team out of
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: the NFC to basically three years in a row, but
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: injuries to the defense is gonna continue to defer, like
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: move them away from being that true continued and they
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: might even miss the playoffs this year due to it. Thought, obviously,
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: we know what their offense is. Their offer is gonna
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: do their thing no matter what. But what I what
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: I've noticed these last couple every time that the Lions
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: have lost this year, teams have zeroed in on Jamior Gibbs.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: They have absolutely like not given him any room in
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: any space to do anything like let's look at the Chiefs,
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: look at let's look at this game. Both teams completely
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: took him out of it. But obviously, though these two
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: teams are two of the top five, top three best
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: run defensive teams in the entire NFL, and they use
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: that and if the Lions are gonna be successful, they
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: have to lean upon both guys. They can't just hope
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: that Jamior Gibbs is gonna break off a big play,
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: Like what's the point of having Manti if you're not
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: gonna use both of them?
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: So it's kind of one of those things where if
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: your defense can't produce like they're supposed to. I mean,
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: they have top end talent, but they're not there. And
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: even look at the Los Angeles rams them and the
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: Seahawks to me, are the most complete teams in the
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: in the NFC, and I think it's gonna be those
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: two teams at the end to get to the super Bowl.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: And as far as the Seahawks, I mean, as far
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: as the Rams, I mean, I know DeVante goes down
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: in this game, but Pokakua right now, man, Pooka Nakua
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: is just I there was this point in the time
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: where Okay, he's just a route runner, like he's one
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: of the most pure route runners, sure hands, like give
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: me the ball, run after the catch, doesn't really score touchdowns.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: But what he's done this year is proven something different
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: is that he's gonna go up and get the damn thing.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: Like you know, I don't think he's shown that his
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: first couple of years. Like I think this is where
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford's like, all right, let's see how much more
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: he can give. And I think for them, he's offered
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: such a bigger threat than he already was that this
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: team is reaching a whole different level than they have
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: done offensively, and you can see it. But having Devonte
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: Adams on the other side, I know, Cooper Cup, we
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: love Cooper Cup, but DeVante Adams, how he's still able
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: to do the things that he's doing is opening up
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: so much for everybody around this team.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Got some bad news for you, brother.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's out. We know that, both of them.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: That's that was gonna be my top Ucas. Huca is
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: probably gonna end up playing. But he's what I was
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: gonna say. What I was going to say is that
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: what the Rams did was they pivoted extremely well. What
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: they did was is whenever both of their guys got injured,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: what did they do? They ran the balls. They ran
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: the ball and they did it extremely well. With both
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: of their running backs. They had like, what was it
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: like thirty run attempts compared to the Lions that only
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: had twenty. You know when the Lions are known for
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: running the ball, like that's what they're known for. And
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford knew, hey, all I need to do this
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: game if I really want to win it, want to
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: solidify it, let me just hand off the ball and
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: let that boy Blake corum and and Kyrone just go
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: absolutely insane. And that's what they did. I mean, they
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: were just they were just out physical ing them. You know,
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: what's his name, Ali mcmill was getting kind of thrown around.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: I will say Hutch got an insane interception. I don't
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: know if you guys seen that one handed snag on
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: that screen. That was nasty. But and I really thought
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: that was to be, you know, kind of what like
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: flipped this game and the announcers we're talking about like
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: you can't just kick field goals in this game, And
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: that's what it came down to was the Rams were
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: just they kicked one field goal, but other than that,
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: they were just scoring touchdowns and they just kept on
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: doing it. And I mean both of these teams, like
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: we seen, they just looked I mean, they looked absolutely insane.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: And it sucks that the Lions might actually end up
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: missing the playoffs. Are actually more likely to not make
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: the playoffs right now. And it's like I feel like
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: if they ended up making the playoffs, I get that
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: they have a lot of injuries again for the second year,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: I think if they made the playoffs, they could win
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: a game or two or even maybe somehow find a
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: way to make the Super Bowl, Like they are that
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: good of a team. But I just think the NFC
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: is so strong this year, Like we were talking about
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: pre pod that like I don't. I don't see, like,
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: to be honest, with the Micah injury, That's the only
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: way I see them making in is somehow the Packer
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: fall off an absolute cliff. Jordan Love didn't have a
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: great game. You know, for the first time in forever,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: toyodath On you know, Toyotathan ended. So that's why he
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: had a bad game. I'm just kidding. It might still
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: be going on. I have no clue. January second, okay, okay,
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: but I mean, yeah, Matthew Stafford played really good. He
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: balled out with like three hundred plus yards. Same thing
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: with golf, he also balled out. And so, like Josh
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: was saying, you just they took out the run game
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: and that was the X factor, Like that was the
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: only difference between this team. Like the Lions won the
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: turnover battle, but they couldn't get anything going on the ground.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: They held Gibbs to under three yards of carry, which
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: is insane because he's like debatable offensive player of the year,
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: like one of the most electric players in the NFL,
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: as we all know. And then I mean, for all
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: the fantasy people out there, that boy On and Wrow
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: went absolutely Jamo and Jared goff. You went against the
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: theme team bro no.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: For no, for real, dude, like it was. It was insane.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: But okay, I'm gonna say that. Okay, the little difference
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: is obviously we know Sean McVay, he's a better coach
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: than Dan Campbell. But I just want to tell you guys,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: this is where like the little differences that nobody notices obviously,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: as far as like the crazy high scoring game forty
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: one to thirty four. At half, the score was twenty
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: four to seventeen. The Lions were up. The Lions' next
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: three drives three and out, three and out, three and
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: out less than two minutes in every single one of
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: them compared to the Rams field goal, touchdown, touchdown. They're
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: just the little differences right there. And then finally when
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: the Lions scored a touchdown those four minutes left in
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: the ballgame. So it's just and I think the biggest thing,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: like you guys were saying, and I'm going to repeat
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: the same thing. They were up in the game and
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: it started to get with the Rams had momentum. Why
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: not lean on your two best backs of Jamiir Giblin
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: David Montgomery. And that's where Dan Campbell call in plays
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: for the first time his entire career. This is where
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: you can see an offensive coordinator struggling. And this is
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: a game that you need to compare to Sean McVay,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: where obviously we know how great of a play caller
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: he is.
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: Just he leaned on his running game.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: Like yeah, right, yeah, exactly.
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: You saw the main and Kyrine.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: And then I feel like with with the lines, like
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: I get that you weren't able to get it going running,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: but then you need to manufacture touches to Gibbs. He's
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: that good. We've seen it with the Falcons literally last week,
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: like they weren't getting it done on the ground with
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Bijon and so what do they do. They started throwing
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: screens and ship. I mean like, yeah, it's like it's like,
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: just get it to your playmaker's hands. You need to
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: start throwing screens. And I get it. He's he's a
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: new play caller, so maybe he doesn't think up stuff
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: like this, but I mean, you just gotta give it
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: a Gibbi bro let him work.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta let you gotta let Gibby do his thing.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: But all right, well we'll kind of merge into the
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: AFC right here is still kind of NFC like you're
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: talking about as far as with this Mica injury. So
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: the Broncos, who Josh still thinks so Raider probably win
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: thirty four to twenty six in a bow Knicks great game,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: I do, and obviously biggest story Micah tears his ACL.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: I think it was mid fourth quarter something like that
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, But yeah, Broncos win eleven straight
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: and clinched the playoff. Berth Who's going first?
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: Okay, I want to say some thing I do think
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: the Broncos success over the last couple of weeks, like
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: and why bow Knicks I think is starting to look
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: like he was looking really good when JK. Dobbins was there,
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: when JK. Dobbins was kind of doing his thing and
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: being very consistent. But what they did differently in this
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: game is they leaned completely upon RJ. Harvey, Like I
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: think RJ. Harvey's the big difference in this in this game,
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: and the crazy thing is his receiving work wasn't even
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: unlocked in this one. It was just pure running nineteen
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: yard nineteen carries, not a lot of yards, only sixty five.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: But the leaning upon a reliant back in the backfield
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: to where the defense has to respect that you can
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: hand it off at any given moment. Opened up opens
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: up so much for your quarterback, and I think that's
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: what a different bon Nicks. I do think that this
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: is a there's a reason why this was Courtland Sutton's
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: biggest game and how long you know that he hasn't
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: really been producing like he was doing at the beginning
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: of the season. Is having that threat in the backfield.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: And me personally, I wasn't the biggest RJ. Harvey believer
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: coming into the season, but what I've seen from the
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: last couple of weeks as he's been working into being
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: this number one guy in the backfield, he has some
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: real talent and some real speed and ability that can
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: open up I think this dimmer Broncos team to being
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: a like I understand that they're the number one seed,
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: but I do think they're a little overrated. But beating
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: the team like the Green Bay Packers, I do think
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: is gonna give a lot more confidence going into the
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: next game and going into the playoffs when you have
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: to play some big time teams in big time moments.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Because I do think that there's two teams in the
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: AFC East that are that are about that are making
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: waves right now as well, So they're going to really
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: need that di dynamic backfield.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: No, I mean, to be honest, Josh, I couldn't agree
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: with you more. Man. I'm we all know I'm not
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: a huge bow Knicks guy. I'm I'm more of a
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: peytent guy, right. I think I think he helps out
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: a lot and he hides a lot of his flaws.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: I hate bow Nick's mechanics. But today he looked fucking good,
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: or it was yesterday, and it's against a really good
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: he looked good against a good defense, Like like, these
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: aren't scrubs, And I get that they've had a really
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: easy schedule for the most part. And you know, he
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: went against Micah, and I get that Micah got hurt,
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: but that was in the fourth quarter. Like it's not
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: like Micah didn't play the whole game, you know. And
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, like the Broncos just played complimentary football. They
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: did what they're supposed to do to get a win.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: They remind me of you know, the Patriots year in
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: year out, where it's like they don't look super impressive
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: or anything like that. They don't have an amazing resume,
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: but they set atop the AFC and they're like the
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: one seed and then they make it into the playoffs
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: and then they do their thing. Granted, I don't think
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: the Broncos will do that. Maybe they'll make the Championship.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: I don't think that they make the Super Bowl, There's
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: no way. But with the Packers, Jordan Love played absolutely
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: horrible game. And I get it. This is the best,
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: like maybe second best or best defense in the NFL.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: It's a damn good defense. Bro. Both of these edge players.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: Have the get offwks.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: I like the Texans more. I would take the Broncos
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: over the Seahawks.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Though, take Broncos over Seahawks.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: But and I get that. I get that. I just
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: I feel like the Broncos have more star power. And
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: I mean the defense, actually, yeah, give me the same defense.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: I will say. I will say with all the injuries
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: and stuff that the that that the Packers had, I mean,
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: like Christian Watson, his wide receiver one, we were talking
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: about it that like like I know, oh he is
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: he is he I thought he broke his class goal.
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they said that he got hit in the chest.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: He was grabbing his shoulder.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're covering something up.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: He's gonna hit it with the EID.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: Tell him to get back on the dates because I
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: have him in Fantasy Fantasy And they just said and
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: it said like expected to leaning towards playing this week.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: That's insane.
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: Parenthesis chest like in the middle.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: That's crazy. Well, I mean I guess that is kind
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: of like similar region, but still like.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: Probably just off. He probably just absolutely I didn't I
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: didn't see the like he hid.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Around and like like the Mike Evan shoulder shoulder from around.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: And then he's if it's not his legs, it don't matter.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: It's lower he screwed.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah no, but Christian Watson got hurt in this game,
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: and I think that ended up affecting them a lot.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: And then on top of that, j didn't read like
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: like he was almost like a way did jdn't read
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: even play? Yeah, okay, I was like I was like,
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: I want to make sure I'm not tripping. So like
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Jayden Reid he's first game back, Josh Jacobs was injured
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: and he started off really slow, like he didn't score,
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: he wasn't really doing shit until like the fourth quarter. Bro,
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: Like I felt like he was getting the ball and
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: just running into a brick wall playing play out, but
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: then they just kind of stuck to it and he
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: ended up breaking off a couple. And I mean this Packers,
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: they're on a downward spiral. Like I was saying earlier
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: whenever I was talking about the Lions, they may have
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: a chance to steal this spot from them with only
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: three weeks left, you know, they would need the Packers
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: to basically lose out. Yeah yeah, yeah, interesting. Yeah. So
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not a Packers fan. I'm not gonna lie.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: I grew up a Cowboys fan, so I fucking hate
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: the Packers. So I love to see them lose. Brother,
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: I love to see them lose. I'd much rather have
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: the Lions in. And I'm not wishing injuries upon anybody,
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: but man, if Jordan Love can keep on playing like shit,
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep on cheering.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: Brother.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you, man, I don't want to be
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: this guy on the pod, which I've never been. I
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: guess I'm gonna have to be the one defending bone
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: knicks here. So bow knicks the biggest thing about him.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: I'm not high on him being Oh he's this top
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: ten quarterback or whatever. But Sean Payton finally decided to
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: take the leash leash off and let him rip the
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: entire game. And I mean, this is the best game
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: he's had against And like you were saying, Micah, he
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: played majority of this game right here, and this was
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: still bare minimum a top ten defense and just the Broncos,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: even though it looks ugly, they could win in different styles,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: whether it's defensive, whether they have to score points over thirty,
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: they just win the ballgame. That's what it is. That's
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: how the Eagles were years prior. That's how the Chiefs
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: were years prior. I'm not trying to compare them to
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: exactly them because they have pedigree. But that's just what
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: the Broncos are doing. And there's not other than the Bills,
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: which we'll get to the Bills in Patriots game in
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: a second. They have pedigree and a head coach that
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: kind of matches together, not perfectly, but matches good enough together.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: But they can make a run. And I have to say,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: without without a doubt, they have to be the AFC
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: favorites to get out. Now with Mahomes officially out, Burrow,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Lamar they're not gonna get in. We we see how
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: that's gonna happen. If the biggest thing is Josh Allen
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: and Drake May the two competitors. Obviously, Josh Allen's the
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: best one and bo Knicks is the worst out of
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: those three. I think Sean Payton can cover up for that.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: And like we were just saying a top three defense
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: by their side.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: But yeah, the Packers, I think Burrow's done in Cincinnati.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: He's retired.
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: I think it's since I think he leaves Cincinnati or
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: he retires.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that will Bro, that would be so crude. But yeah, okay,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: let me ask he looks, he looks, he looks sad,
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: like I mean, personal stuff going on. I mean, there's
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: might be going on.
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I was looking. But before he retired, Bro.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: But Andrew Andrew Luck, I mean they played.
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: The same amount of years.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Wait, we gotta discuss is Andrew Luck You're not You're.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: Not You're going You don't like Andrew.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: No, I love Andrew. Don't don't take that standout, bro, No,
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: I love Andrew Luck. But like I feel like Andrew
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: Luck was in a like debatably worse situation. What I
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: get that the Bengals were like a horrible franchise and
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: stuff like.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: That, joined a team that was consistently the most winningest
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: organization over the last.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Years divisional conference championships.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: The only time they missed the playoffs was when Payton
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: Manny got hurt and they were able to draft Andrew Louck.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: He just had like the rest of.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: And then like he had t Y. And I really
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: do like t Y, but like Hilton, but like Jamar
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: is different. Like t Y was never considered top two.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: T Y was never considered top two. But no, I do.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: I do really like t Y. Hilton I do really like,
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: but he was never he has never been the top two.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: His defense was arguably top three every year.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, his defense was great. Joe Burrow has terrible offensive
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: line and terrible defense.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Have they played around the same amount of seasons
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: and they both have had a lot of injuries.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow he came in twenty nineteen, so what five
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: years because he missed the first year a cl Well,
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: he's really played like three or four years something like that.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: Burrow, I know that's insane. And he's like a top
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: three paid quarterback in the NFL.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know no, But let me ask you all
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: this about the Packers. So as far as with Micah, Like,
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: obviously we know they made that big trade and he
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: won't be back well maybe around September October kind of
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: obviously the same timeline as Mahomes. But do y'all think
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: this affects like their super Bowl status like the next
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: two years because they've had a bunch of injuries defensively, Like,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: I think this pushes the table all for next year
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: for them because contracts are going to get expensive for them,
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Mica now being out this year, so I think it
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: really puts a bunch of pressure on them for next
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: year to win it all.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: They got another year like next year next I feel
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: like he's perfect, you know.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: I do think even for this year, I'm not too
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: worried about them, like I do think that Micah. The
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: thing is Packers were a playoff contending team before Micah.
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: They didn't really lose much.
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: To get Mike. You know, they lost Kenny Clark, you know,
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: but like and draft capital, of course, I still do
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: think they're a really good football team. Mica is just
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: the guy that puts them over the top, and he's
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: their class. That's what I mean, So like there doesn't
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: does it take away their their chances? I think does
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: it take away their chances I think winning the Super Bowl?
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: Of course, yeah it does. Like I don't think, but
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: I do think if they're a real threat in the
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: playoffs and if they make it, I do think the
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: Packers are a real threat because they can go toe
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: to toe with anyone offensively. I do think that like
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: on a good day, they they're they're gonna be clicking
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: on all cylinders, like compared against any team. You know
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: that that's just who they have. Jordan Love has that ability,
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: and the receivers have that ability. I just think that
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: that they don't have that guy that can put them
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: over the top, like over the Okay, they have they
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: can go over the top at any moment. With Jordan Love,
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: I feel like it's just like you say, sometimes he's
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: a double agent, but Michael Parsons, they don't have that
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: guy that can seal the game when they need it,
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: Like especially in this game. If we look at this
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: game with the Denver Broncos, they were winning this game
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter, you know, so he goes down
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: R J.
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: Harvey scores a touchdown.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: They lose the game. So it's kind of like one
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: of those things where if he was there, who knows,
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: this outcome might have looked a little bit different.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: Reckon anything.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: No, I mean they're playoff contender, but like, like to
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: be honest, like, yes, Micah's like top five defensive player,
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: but like this year hasn't been as good as his
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: years in the past, right, Like he only has thirteen
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: sacks on the season. I get that he has a
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: lot of pressures and he leads the NFL. Like, I
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: don't know if he leads the NFL in double teams,
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: but I know, like two three weeks ago, I looked
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: and he was up there. He's pretty high whenever it
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: comes to double team rate.
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: It's like game matters a lot.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it does, it does, but I'm saying, like statistically
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: looking at it, and I also feel like just watching
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: the games, this year wasn't what Micah was whenever he
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: was in Dallas, and so it's like it's a it's
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: a huge loss to Bro. I think he's better. He
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: was better.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: I think he was better, honestly, dude.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: I think he took over games, Bro, Like he dominated game.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: That's the three SAT game he definitely won them.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: Like I like I was saying impact of game, Like
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: I do think that he was like making quarterbacks do
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: what they did, not only used him, used Bay, but.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: Like I agreed, but I feel like I feel like
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: he was a more impactful player on the Dallas Cowboys.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: He had more around flashy place, he had more flashy
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: And then.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: Josh is probably right with the fact that, like everyone
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: else around, Micah did like suck ass, so it made
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: him look that much better.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: So like is playing like a guy rejuvenated in Seattle
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: right now, Like he's like like and then you look
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: at Trayvon Diggs, Duran Bland injuries, Da Marin overshown injuries.
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: So it's kind of just like one of those things
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: where I mean, I mean the safeties in Dallas, safeties
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: in Dallas, they're yeah, so Micah. So Micah kind of
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: he had that guy. You know, That's why he was demanding.
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: The money brot my money, bro.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: I get that. But but my point is, like I
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: still think that the Packers are going to be just
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: like fine with maybe not like.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: They'll be they'll now now without my.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: Right now, I don't I can't beating Green Bay right
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: now Chicago, Green Bay, right now Chicago, Okay, I think maybe.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: Kidding, I would take Chicago for sure. Jason Bourne is
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: just he scares me.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: When I've been telling this to Josh for two years,
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: I said that he's got that double agent in them.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: Bro and Josh.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: Josh used to love Jordan's Love.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: I kind of took Christians.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: No. I remember, like two years ago, Bro, you were like,
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: he's top five.
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: No, I said, Jordan Love was top five.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: He has of top five, but like he can't.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: I remember Jordan's After Jordan Love's first year, Josh was,
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: oh my gosh, so excited for Jordan.
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: I didn't think he was top five. You're tripping. I
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: do think maybe.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: Maybe not top five, but you were so high on Jordan.
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: I will say, I'll give him, but your top five
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: I have My top five is consistent.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he never ranked him top five. He's he's never
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: ranked them top five. But okay, let's talk about a
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: top five quarterback. Arguably or it is the best law.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: We'll get to Sela in a second. But another guy
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: who tours acl Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs are officially
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: eliminated from the playoffs, but the biggest story is that
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: Mahomes tours ACL and Okay, I have a little bit
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: more on here, Josh, and I just want to hear
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: your opinion. He also tours LCL, but they repaired, They
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: repaired his ligament instead of reconstruction, so meaning they just
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: stitched it back together so he could come back faster.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: So they won him back by September instead of a
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: full reconstruction where he'd be back by October or November.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: So I want to hear what you think about that.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: And then as far as obviously this game.
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: Well as far as like Patrick Mahomes, I did look
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: into it, like his knee wasn't like like like a
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: Moliku Neighbors type of injury or anything like that, Like
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: like his l CL like was still like good intell
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: like how you're saying, like it was still intact to
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: where it was like okay, like he's not injured in
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: it was just a clean ACL tear like nothing really
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: else was damaged. And so like that's really good to
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: hear that that he and I do think Mahomes being
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: the grinder that he is, like he's gonna work his
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: way back and who knows, maybe we'll see what the mobility.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: Looks like when he comes back, that's gonna be the
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: biggest factor.
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: I think Mahomes is. But the thing is this year,
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: at least this year.
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: Last year the same thing too, but this year at
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: least Mahomes. Mahomes, Mahomes has extension of place has put
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: him at so much risk, like to to gall and
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: like sure, like he plays like Superman. He plays through
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: every single injury. We saw him in the super Bowl
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: with a high ankle's brain, We saw him do these.
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: He plays through constant injuries every single time. He's hurt
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: like we But it's gonna catch up to you eventually.
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: And I do think that this was the moment in
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: time where you're just doing a lot gets you, It
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: bites you in the button. As far as for me
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: with this Ken City Chiefs team, Like honestly, I didn't
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: even watch this game all mainly because it was a
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: one year anniversary. I didn't want to like get in
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: the way of that with Risa and you know, and
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: plus like I had been watching every Spurs game, Spurs
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: game every single night. No, honestly, I'm not pissed, like
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: I do think, like I said, the Spurs starts of
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: the season was like the Chiefs winning Super Bowl for me,
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: like I'm like completely like he really did say that
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: in our text business Like I'm like completely satisfied with
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: my life right now. Like beating okay See. People say like, oh,
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: this is their championship, Like damn right, this is my championship,
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: like us beating Oka See because I watched them lose
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: twenty three straight games for three years ago. So but
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: as far as the Chiefs, like I am, I am
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: like bummed about it, like they're not gonna be in
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: the playoffs. But for me, new faces have to come through,
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: like I I will say me and I told Reckon,
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: I tried watching Bill Simmons talk about football today and
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: it was I immediately turned it off. Like Bill samon
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: is a basketball analyst, bro, just stick to basketball because
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: like he said, like the Chiefs constantly miss on draft pics,
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: but I do think we have. But he said, they
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: need to go out their left their their linemen they
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: drafted didn't work out this year, Like what the freak
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: like Josh Shimmons Like he was like they need to
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: go out and draft a left tackle. I'm like I
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: just turned it off. I was like, no, Josh Simmons
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: has been completely dominant every single time he's touched the
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: football field this year. So for me, left guard, right
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: tackle needs this year running back. I mean, you know
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: who I want age.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: He's a guy like.
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, it makes sense, like we have
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: to pay guys like you got to get rid of
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: a guy like an aging contract. But too bad this
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: year he's just down. He's really everyone's injured, bro, Like
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: they can't really do nothing about the offensive line.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: And the worst contract in the NFL might be y'all's
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: right tackle.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, Josh is the worst contract in the NFL.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: Fifty million over the cast.
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: Forty four million, forty four millions over the cup.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: I can't even say. The Saints were like seventy eight
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: mil last year.
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: Are still you are still paying players, y'all are still We're.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: Still playing Jamis? We're still paying Jamis? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: This is the last year. Great, the last year. We're
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: paying him eight and a half mil this year.
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: And Michael Thomas, I just think it's like getting your faces,
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: getting you faces in there, like like I was talking
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: about earlier when I said I'll get you. We drafted
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: Felix and DK Uzama. Why he's from Kansas City, Missouri,
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: played at Kansas State. The draft was in Kansas City.
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: Why are we draft? We draft him youngest, I know, youngest,
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: big twelve, like defensive player of the Year in a while,
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: a lot of potential, but Lugarious Need is on contract year.
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: Trent McDuffie is a the number one slot corner in
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: the NFL. And you pass on Joey Porter Junior, who
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: is an outside not lockdown, but he's a really good
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: cornerback in the NFL. Fits the Chiefs mold and you
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: go after somebody who's a feel good story.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: You move on.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: You draft Sky Moore over George Pickens, Like do I
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: even gotta say anymore about that? Like you draft? There's
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: constant times in this where they've constantly gone for players
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: that I just think personally they got. They draft KeAndre
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: Coburn over de Marian over shown which at this time
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: we still have Derek Noddy, We still have guys we
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: still have today. KeAndre Colburn isn't even on the roster
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: like we have Mike Panel, we have Derek Noddy, we
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: have Chris Jones. Like you pass on guys that are
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: sitting right in your lap where you could instantly make
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: your team better and make them more dynamic than they
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: already are, and you just completely pass like a Beach.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: I love Veach, but this thing where we're constantly going
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: for like we need the need, but we're waiting for
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: that perfect player to fit the draft position that we have,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: rather than going out and getting a guy like we
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: drafted Felix ad dk Uzema, Zay Flowers. You could have
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: traded up for Quinn Johnson, you could have traded up
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: for Jordan Addison, you could have traded up for you,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: and instead you settle for Fau and you.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: Passed on Joey Porter Jr.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: So there's constant times where they've missed on better players
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: that could immediately add to this championship caliber team and
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: look at it, what it's done. I love Rareshi Rice,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: but we know where she Rice's skill set. Give me
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: the ball I'm gonna get, yeah, give me yeah, But
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: if you look on the outside, there's not a real
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: guy who can run the complete route tree and consistently
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: get open against man to man and zone coverage without
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: a doubt. It's gadget guys, all emotion and as you
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: think it falls upon. It falls upon the shoulders of
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: Andy Reid. I do think that Andy Reid went in
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: his at his peak, at his peak, was the best
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: play caller in the NFL. But as of the last
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: couple after the last couple of seasons, he has we
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: have we are not coming out immediately pressing teams. First
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: drive in scoring now is consistently three.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 6: Can y'all stop being like Rudy my train of thought, Like,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 6: like Josh, I do have a point to bring up
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 6: to to like kind of like answer your.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: Prayers on saying that Andy Reid hasn't been as good
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: because I watched the Guy that Broke down the film.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: There is there is good and there is bad in
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: his game. Andy Reid is still like developing amazing, Like
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: he's still on offensive manager guy. But four games in
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: a row on third and ten he ran the exact
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: same play with the exact same concept and hit Rashid
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: Rice on every single one. What does he do? He
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: does the same thing and Jalen Petrie lights him the
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: fuck up? What does he do this week? Run that
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: exact same play in Durham James lights him the fuck up.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: So it's the exact same play it's like a rollout
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: Pa Crosser, Like it's just it's a Madden plate. At
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: the end of the day. There is some trickery on
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: the backside with Travis Kelce, which is an option running
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: like a U Saum route, but that's not his read.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: His read is Rice and it worked. But he's ran
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: at four plays in a row the exact same setup
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: on the exact same down and distance, And I get
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: that that's your bread and butter and your go to,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: but you can't do that five in a row.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: Teams are too smart.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: I just do I just think the time has passed
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: him by, Like I just do think like he was
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: able to capitalize on Mahomes prime and the and the
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: peak of the defense. But consistently, you have the players
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: now and you're still running the same offense that you
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: ran with Kadarius Tony and Sky Moore, Like you haven't
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: developed into Xavier Worthy skill set into Rashi Rice has
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: been completely like taking over the screen. In a complete
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: seventeen game season, he has thirteen hundred yards, seventeen sixteen touchdowns,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: and over one hundred and twenty.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: Basically, it's whatever I'm not I'm not saying I'm like
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: agreeing with you, Like I don't understand why they throw
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: so many screens to.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: Him, but his skills says, give me the ball, I'm
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: gonna go make plays like but he.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: Can do the same thing downfield, Like like in my mind,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: he can do what Ruca's doing. I haven't seen that.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen that. Like whenever he's throwing the ball
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: deep downfield, it's too Worthy, or it's to Thornton. It's
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: not to Rice.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: She Rice isn't a deep play threat, Reckon. He's an
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: intermedia and short catch guy.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: I get that. But I'm I would rather throw a
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: screen to Worthy and let him break that off because
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: that can go for I get the.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: Best after the catch runner in the inn.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: I get that. But Worthy, he's got that speed, He's
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: got that X factor. But we see it, we see
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: it with Jamo in Detroit, like you see that in
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: my mind. In my mind, have Rashid Rice doing what
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: Nico's doing, have him doing what every single other outside.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: That's my gripe right now.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to agree with you.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: With me, put him and the lack of the lack
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: of a running back in the backfield who can create
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: that Kareem Hight is doing everything you want him to do.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: He's doing everything you want him to do. He cannot
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: break away. He cannot break away. Right now?
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: Did you see that they said that Pacheco's not in
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: the plan next year?
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: I mean I knew that, yeah, but like they straight
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: up they.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: Came, they came to the media and said like, yeah,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: he's not gonna be in the plan next year. And
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: watching this game, Pacheco was not in it. He was
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: not running, like, he wasn't stopping the ground when he runs.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: There's an episode where I talked about, like his career
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: is gonna be short, bro, Like he's not gonna be
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: for a long time.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: I get that, but you don't you whatever, you're competing
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: for a play.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: As an older as an older running back, and then
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: plus he was a seventh round draft pick, No. Four year,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: he's on this no option, yeah, and then running back
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: the running back market, he's not gonna get paid, bro,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: Like he's gonna go to being a backup somewhere from
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: now on. Like he's no longer gonna be a number
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: one guy anywhere else in his career.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: In my mind, that's it's such a bad decision. That
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: your your RB RB two, maybe even RB one coming
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: off of an injury, just like going out on a
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: week that you have to win. The playoffs started that day,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: and you're like, I mean, oh yeah, this guy, We're
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: not gonna have him here next year, like he's a thing. Well.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: The defense, well, last week versus Houston Texans, the Texans
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: were no longer going to score the football, and Andy
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: Reid chooses to not continue putting the ball to Houston
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: and goes for on fourth to one on their own
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: thirty five early in the fourth quarter. Yeah, so they
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: the Texans were done scoring, bro, Like they were not
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: getting anything going like they were their offense was shut
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: down completely and Andy Reid went for it, gave them
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: easy field advantage.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: They score the ball. Game's over, Bro. The Chiefs were
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: already struggling to move the ball, and you even made
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: it harder to win this football game. It comes down
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: a decision after decision after decision, constantly, constantly, constantly, look
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: at the Cowboys game. They line up in shotgun on
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: fourth and one when they couldn't even when the success
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: with Kareem Hunt has been under center on fourth and one,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: Like there's constantly decisions where you're trying to trick the defense.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: Just do something that makes sense, that make that you've
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: been doing constantly all season, that makes you good. But
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: he constantly tries to do these crazy, wild things instead
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: of just letting the best player in the world pick
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: apart a team like it's it's it's annoying and they
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: not the crazy thing. Even if Andy Reid's gone, Matt
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: Nagy's gonna be the head coach and he's still part
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: of the problem as well. So it's like, one, are
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: those things you have to be enemy? Yeah, because I
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: think I think the enemy was that person where Andy
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: Reid like defer to sometimes. I think the enemy was like, Yo,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: let me call this play and we're gonna get things going.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: But ever since that time, Matt and Agy isn't that
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: same guy. You know, he's not that same aggressive play
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: caller that the enemy was. And I think that's the problem.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: Like, you don't think Reid would just give up play calling, No.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: Bro, he's Andy freaking Reid, He's not. Why would he
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: give up the That's like telling Bill Belichick give up
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: defensive coordinator job, Like give up the defense.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: If he went through a rough year and a half
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: patch and then saying, no, give it to somebody else.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: You're talking about like arguably the greatest offensive coordinator of
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: offensive play caller of all time. Like, hey, you're past
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: You're past the time to give it up.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like they're gonna ride to the Wills fall off. No,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: but all right, not no dispect to the charges, but
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: honestly they don't matter in this certain time period right now.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: So we're gonna move on to the I mean ten
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: and four divisions. Well, I mean, did you say about
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: the Chargers?
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, like I say, week in week out, justin
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: Herbert's best quarterback rolling to the left as a righty,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: like he's absolutely balling out.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: Okay, is this is this the last time we see Kelsey?
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: I should should have been last year, but I think
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: it has to be this.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: Who's who's the tight end? Oh my gosh, because you
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: guys are set up to draft him? Is that is that?
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: Who does Jared Wiley?
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 4: Wait at breaking, I don't know who he's. I don't
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 4: know who he's, like lose the.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: Tight end in this draft class that's supposed to go
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: like top.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: Ten, the organ guy. He's a monster, bro.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: If you guys land him and he's just a pug.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: And put that guy to take the load off of
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: freaking Patrick Mahomes in the backfield.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: Bro, stop you go to church.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: Oh you want love? You want love?
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: You want love?
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: I get, I get, I would I would like to
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: pick for love as well.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: Like he freaking dude, we need someone that's that's gonna
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: be able to get twenty twenty plus.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: Carries how to take that load. He's been carrying a
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: pretty big load for like the last like two or
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: three years, you know, with the Chiefs, and I mean
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: we've seen today with that with that or yesterday with
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: that A cl injury. You know, carrying a load can
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: really do do a lot to a man.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: You know, I do think you're wasting the best player.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: You're you're wasting a year of his career.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, he just got injured, and then basically you're
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: wasting two years because he's not gonna come back until.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: Like, no, he'll be week eight, No, he'll be I.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: Think it was one of these things where you can
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: see over time it just like slowly coming like back down,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: like where the team is becoming more stagnant. It has
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: to be finally, I mean, look at the Patriots, they
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: hit like two or three different dynasties, two different dynasties,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: And like I'm saying that Chiefs need to find new
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: guys who are hungry, because I don't think this is
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: a real excuse. But to me, I view as like
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: in the NFL, these guys are professional athletes. These guys
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: are getting paid to play this game. Once they have
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: won a certain amount of times, some guys just are
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: just satisfied, you know, like they why would I want
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: to continue working if I've been to the mountaintop and
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: one multiple times in a row, and you're talking about
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: the same draft class who has won two Super Bowls.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: On the defensive side, you could tell Trim McDuffie plays
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: ass off. You can take tell George Carl Laughters tries
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: playing his ass off. But where has Drew Trank will
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: been this year? Where has Leo Chanell been this year?
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: Where has some of these guys been that have been there?
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: They are not making the same big plays they used
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: to make, Like and Jalen watching Joshua Williams. You're relying
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: upon seventh round cornerbacks each and every single year on
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: drafted cornerbacks to continue making things happen like the and
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: they've already won, like they got their keepsake. They're not
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: getting a big contract in the NFL, like they're like, bro,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: like what more do I gotta do?
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: So I think new faces have to come through for
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: this team to rejuvenate this team.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: Are you looking forward to the draft?
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: No, because I feel like we're gonna do something stupid
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: and not draft the tied end from Oregon or Jeremiah
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: Love or even like let's say, from.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: Texan L s U.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: I think you are going to draft the corner from
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: L s U. I can't think of his name.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: Zion Alexander am. I that this.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: Corner class isn't isn't great, like I think last.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: The challenges in this class.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: But he's a safety. He's like a Kyle Will know,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: he's everything.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's kind of everything. I think he's debatable player
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: in this draft. I mean is another day, but no, No,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: for sure, Reese is.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: Nice, Bain's nice, Jeremiah loves nice.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: Jeremiah loves damn good.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: But I think a bunch of.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: I think David Bailey liked.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: Bailey's so good he is who's the number nine for
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: A and M he's a dog, he's the edge.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, gosh, what's his name?
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 4: Ribbon Rain from Miami.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: Bain but.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, Ruben Baine, my.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 4: Badgers, dude.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: I was thinking that. I was like, bro, he's gonna
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: have the toughest like edits if he like turns out
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: to be super good in the end.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: All right, just keep yeah, there's nothing until them.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: Now. But all right, let's move into this game right here,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: New England Patriots versus Buffalo Bills. And what's the Patriots?
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: They had a big lead in this one, up twenty
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: one to zero. The Bills come back and win thirty
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: five to thirty one and keep the AFC East still
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: wide open the last three remaining games of the season.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: So what are y'alls takeaways from this one?
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: I don't I don't have a takeaway right now, but
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: I have a question. Okay, no Lamar, no Joe Burrow,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: no Patrick Mahomes. In his playoffs, one man's ending alone,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: who's been to the stop, who's constantly been to the brink,
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: who's constantly been to the brink each and every single
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: year of finally getting to the dance. If this year
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: he doesn't get to the Super Bowl, it's wide open
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: this year, Like it's wide open for him alone to
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: get to the super Bowl and win or not win.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: Just get there, like, just get there? Please? What does
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: this say about Josh Allen if he doesn't make the
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl this year?
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: I thought you were gonna say, James Cook, I really did. Man,
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: He's put the He's put this damn team on his back.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: He's put this damn team on his back. I'm just
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: fucking with you, Josh, But I I agree with you, man,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: Like this is like, this is his super Bowl to lose.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: Granted you we all know the Bills are one of the.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: Most he doesn't have the best team though, Like let's
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: say this is his best team he's played with, like
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: probly the worst he's had.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: Mahomes wasn't he wasn't favored against Philly, or he wasn't
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: favored against Sam fr.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: Almost one super Bowl from the wild card round he
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: wasn't he was on the top seed. How great of
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: a player are you? Like?
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: Hell out of? Like the AFC is week in general,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: like the teams that are in are all like either
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: really young and it will be their first time in
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: the playoffs or just like.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: Josh Allen right now, I don't think they want to
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: go to Buffalo and see Josh Allen.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: Hun they want to see they want to see anybody.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: I think the Texans, the Texans are different.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: But if they go play in the cold, do you
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: think they're gonna be able to Josh. We just talked
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: about Josh Allen and the cold and in the snow
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: a couple like two weeks ago, like.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: Last right now, he doesn't have a home stage as
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: of As of right now, they're not leaving vision with
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: the Texans. Are the Texans? Oh no, they're They're behind
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: the Jags. They're behind the Jags. They would have to
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: see each other way later on down the road. But
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: in this game, James Cook carried like he he does
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: every week. Josh, you're gonna you didn't watch the game.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen had under seventy yards passing until four minutes
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: left in the fourth quarter.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: Are you seeing, dude? Sounds like he clutched up. I
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: I agree, Josh Allen's town like he showed up.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: And Josh Allen did run quite a bit. He was
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: scrambling like he could. He was doing what he could
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: with what he had. I will say Keon Coleman.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 4: Did carry when he scored six touchdowns.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: In one game.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: James Cook. James Cook put the team on his back
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: this week, Bro, I don't think you understand. They looked
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: like a fish out of water. I texted the group
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: chat that the peoples were putting.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: His one other weapon in the offense shows up. Reckon
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: like what do you want him to do? Throw it
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: to Khalil sha Cure seventeen times a game or Dawson
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: Knox Like what do you want him to do?
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: I mean I was I was looking at the stat
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: James every time he rushed for one hundred yards seven
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: and one this year, seven won this year?
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: Every time James Brian Robinson twelve plus James, how much
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: carries hold up? How much carries that Brian Robinson have
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: this week?
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: You know what?
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: Let me see? No, he had definitely more than five carries.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: Did they win? They won four in a row, right, I.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: Mean we figured out I'm trying to see, I'm trying
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: to see if there was any drops.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: On the on the game, ye had nine carries. We
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: figured out if last week breaking five carries for Brian Robinson.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: They're now nine and one on the year.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 4: They've only lost to the Rams.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my gosh, Brian Robinson.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: And look at the Commanders as soon as he him up,
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 4: fire him up and fantasy.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: No, that's not how it works, that's not how this
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: The thing is, Brian Robinson contributes to winning football.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: He does.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: He's just saying.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: He's saying, James fuck doesn't.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: No, not as the same way year in the playoffs.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 4: Last year in the playoffs the Commanders won, and he
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 4: had twelve plus carries in the next week and they lost.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: Didn't win, they didn't win.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: They didn't win. No.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: But okay, as far as with this game right here,
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: I think this shows the New England Patriots. Yes, they
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: they have the potential to make the AFC Championship, but
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: this they also show their struggles as far as them
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: being a young team and not being able to close
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: the door on a veteran team. So this is where
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: the Broncos and the Bills they have the advantage here
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: where or even the Texans they have the advantage over
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: the Patriots where they just need to learn how to
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: close these games. And yes, Trayvon, he popped off, but
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: in all honesty, it was those two big runs. Granted,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: They were great runs right there, but other than that,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: they really weren't able to get the run. I mean,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: I love to see I love to see Trayvon doing great,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: but it's just against an experienced team like this, you
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: need to close the door. And in playoff games, there's
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: not gonna be a blowout nine times out of ten.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: So this is where the Patriots. Hill was their first
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: big test as far as can they win these close
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: games whenever the other team is fighting for their playoff lives,
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: And they didn't pass this test right here. But I
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: still think they'll win the AFCAS. They have Baltimore next week,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: so it should wrap it up. Yeah, they'd be two
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: with two left.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm like the Patriots, I feel like you're
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: hitting the nail on the head with the hammer, if
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But the Patriots, the difference
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: was just a veteran team compared to a young team.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: I feel like the rosters aren't that dramatically different. Like
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: I feel like Drake May and Josh Allen's supporting cast is,
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: you know, pretty similar for the most part, and we've
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: seen that today with both of them having amazing running
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: backs and putting the team on their back. Trayveon went
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: absolutely nuclear and then even Ray Davis like it's not
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: gonna be really talked about. But like his returns, I
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: felt like every single one of his returns, they were
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: getting to the fifty, like like they were getting so
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: many yards on those returns, and it was like, like,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. The beginning of this game, I
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: texted Patriots Belt to ask because you yeah, like to
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: start the game, the Bills weren't doing anything at all.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: They looked stagnant. They looked like, I said, a fish
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: out of water. They looked like they didn't belong with
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: the Patriots. And then they bawled out and proved me
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: it wrong and made me shut up. And like Josh
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: was saying, this is Allen's season to lose, like screw
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: the MVP. You could tell he's not really going for
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: stats this season or anything like that. He just wants
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: to win. And I can respect that. And you know,
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: with the baby news, I think maybe that had the
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: factor in a little bit. With the win and the
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: X Factory, you know, going off and dude, I'm not
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: gonna lie. I would love to see him make the
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl. I don't think he wins it, but I
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: would love to see him make it.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would definitely love to see Josh Allen make
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I feel like an all time great quarterback, like,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: especially at the caliber of Josh Allen, they at least
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: have one playoff run where all the odds are against
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: him and they just go nuclear. Besides Eli Manning, I mean,
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't put him up there with the all time greats,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: but like there's always that historic quarterback. They just have
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: this one moment. But yeah, like like you were saying, Patriots,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: they showed they belong. They just need to show can
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: they close the door. That's the biggest thing right there.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: And I think for sure I would love to see
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: the Patriots be aggressive in the draft, maybe draft to
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: Carnell Tait or I don't think Jordan Tyson they could
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: trade up for him, or Malachai Lemon. That would be
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: nice right there.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: But I think this receiver class just in general is
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: really solid. Like I feel like the top five guys
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: are all really good.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, but Josh anything or not.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: Dude, imagine imagine a Mala High Lemons on the Patriots.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: Dude, Dude, that would be insane. That would be insane.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 4: They're gonna go offensive line.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's no.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: I can see that. I gotta see that.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: Stick with the best player available. Don't go back, don't
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: go back.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 3: It's just the most Patriots thing to do.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: You have hope, Defense, have hope, Josh have home.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: What if they get Jacob? What if they get fair?
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: What if they get Jacob Rodriguez?
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, that would be Wait is he declaring.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 4: He's go go like to the Lions?
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: Bro? I think he has to do. Isn't this his last year, his.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 4: Senior year, he's like twenty five.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: He's like twenty five.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: Bro, because he was he was a quarterback at Virginia.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: Was it was it Virginia. I don't remember.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: Virginia one year left. I was tripping.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: No, he's coming now, Bro. I think I think it's
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: his peak value that he's gonna hit. I think he's
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: been like third round, was giving first place votes, bro.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: And didn't get invited. Didn't get invited, Bro, he got.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: More votes than Julian's saying, are you all happy that
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: Pavia didn't win?
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: Dude, he's his drafts.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: He's so insufferable, he's so insufferable. Statistically, he looks good
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: like I would have get it if he won, and
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: just don't like that.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 3: He's not becoming his own person, like like he's trying
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: to copy Johnny Manziel so hard, Like there's only one
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 3: Johnny Menzel. Meanwhile, Baker Mayfield, there's only one like you know, like.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: Me to while Riola is about to go to Tech
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: next year and you're gonna be like the next Mahomes
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: the next.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 4: Stories be from Cincinnati. Kind of want Brandon stores.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: I do really think, like just to complete the trilogy
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: for for Riola. I think he does go to Tech,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: and I think he's gonna be the best player in
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: this in this transfer port.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: No Dylan, I think he's dynamic, bro, Like he's so
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: damn player, so like I wouldn't I would love it,
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: but I feel like, realistically it's gonna be sords b
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: from Cincinnati.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: No, dude, I would love to see Riola go to Tech.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: I can't wait. I can't wait, right Hell yeah, bro,
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: hell yeah you would.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: And it would be fifteen, bro would fifty you know,
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: it would be number five, It would be number five.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it would be five.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's disgusting. He's gonna start rocking the
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: single like like quarter sleeve.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: I mean he already does the whole thing that Mahomes does.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, even like the pre the pregame jumps
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: and everything and everything.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah no, but all right, well we're gonna talk about Cleveland.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: I was about to bring that up. As far as
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: Shader Sanders and Baby Goat right there, the matchup the
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: Caleb and the Goat Bears won thirty one to three.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: So obviously those are schadur rant last week? What about
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: this week?
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: Anything? This week?
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: I need to start this because I looked into this
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: game pre look into it. I thought I thought that
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: this could have been potential upset.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: Right let the league team in rushing again too.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: Okay, going into the game, how cool is it? I
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: looked ten degrees outside? It is fucking freezing. What do
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: you do? You have your quarterback drop back forty two times,
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: your rookie quarterback in his third start or fourth start,
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: You have him dropped back forty two times against a
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: damn good defense, like like a top ten defense, and
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: a really good defense against the pass, not as great
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: against the run, right, and.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 3: What do you what do you do a little bit.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: But the Bears defense, they're good against the pass.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: They're like like, okay, my point is they are really
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: good against the pass. They're not as good against the run. Like,
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: if you're gonna beat the Bears, you're gonna run on them, right, Like,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: we've seen this, And what do they do? They they
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: give Judkins nine carries until the game's over, and then
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: they give him three more and he breaks two of
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: them off for six yards and then one of them
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: off for like eleven and he got basically all of
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: his yards at the very end of the game, right,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: Shador Sanders. One of the picks was horrible. I'm not
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: gonna lie. It looks so bad. He just got absolutely baited.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: One of the picks on Jerry Judy. I'm gonna go
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: into it again. This fucking jag every single week threw
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: an absolute dime on the one yard line into the
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: bread basket and the dude grabbed it and relayed it
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: to the defender and said, I don't want this. Here's
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: a pick for you. Go crazy today, drop fucking thirty
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: plus on our head.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: Didn't show the need to investigate him. Do you think
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: they need to investigate him?
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: Breaking No, I don't think he's betting. I think he's
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: just that fucking ship. I think that's what it comes
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: down to. He's just that dog ship. I think he's
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: I don't even think I don't even think it's his capabilities.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: I think mentally he's fucking ship. I think at the
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: end of the day, that's what it comes down to.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: I think mentally he is dog. I watch him, and
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: I'm like, Darius Tony may have been better.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 4: Hey, that's a super Bowl champion.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: And that's a super Bowl champion.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: Joker, that's the that's the longest punt return in NFL history,
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl history.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: Like not good? Like Darius Tony was his mental game right,
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: Like we've seen it with him taking.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 3: Away off dog with the ball in his hands, Like
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 3: that's not good. Yeah, the ball in his hands, Like
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, come on, but the thing he's getting the
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 3: ball into his hand was the hard part, you know.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Jerry Judy, you may be able to get
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: the ball into his hands, but he may hand it
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: to the defense. You don't know, Like week in week out,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: he just disappoints him.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: Dude, I just I just hate Kadarius Tony took like
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 3: one of the greatest highlights off of Travis kelce off
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: of his Hall of Fame when he jumped offside when
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: he was lined up side, Travis Kelcey pitches it back
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: to him for a touchdown. Oh my gosh, took it
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 3: off the highlight reel. Took it off the Hall of
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 3: Fame highlight reel. But sorry, but I do agree. I
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 3: do think that look at the Door didn't.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: Have a good game. Still, Door did not have a
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: good game.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 3: But look at the other side. Look at what Munong
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: Guy and DeAndre Swift got. Freaking what twenty nine carries
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: combined between the two. Dude, Ken william is gonna feast
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: when his running. And look what they did to this defense,
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 3: to the Cleveland Browns defense. They were able to dominate
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 3: this team, the Chicago Bears. They're confident right now. I
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 3: will say they they probably feel like.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: Hey, all all, I just saw his baby baby goat things.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: That's that's all I saw.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: I really have to do too much of this game, bro.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: He was sitting back and then especially that throw to
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: DJ more worry through it on the line, man baby
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: goat a step.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: Luther Burden surprised me. He was I will say I
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: was fading Luther Burden in the draft. He did, yeah,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: he did, like like I was fading him in the
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: draft because like people were saying that he should have
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: been a first rounder. I didn't agree with that. And dude,
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: he's talents looked electric like he's looked talented.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, no, and so much better than a full
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: Arsenal back. They don't even have Rome. I think he's
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: gonna come back in two weeks or at the start
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: of the playoffs, whenever it starts, one of the two.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: And I'm I'm just saying right now, like like you
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: are saying, they're playing confidence football, and Kleb is only
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: getting better as the weeks that are going on. He's
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: limiting all those negative plays that are happening. I mean,
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: Miles Garrett's gonna do Miles Garrett things, and he's gonna
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: break the sack record next week. But it's just this
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: team is only getting better right now, and this is
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: only a sliver of their potential right here. And Caleb
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: Williams a thousand passing attempts and has only thrown twelve interceptions.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: That's one of the fewest in NFL history. So not
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: only does he have the positive the amazing plays, but
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: he's also limiting his turnovers. So that just shows how again,
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: Caleb hadd Rough, you're last year that this is coming
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: from a number one Caleb Fan right here, But he's
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: only getting better. And I'm just saying this is kind
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: of like I would put this in a situation, kind
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: of like the Packers, where the entire team is better.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: I think Caleb's eventually is going to be better than
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: Jordan Love, but it's necessarily can the quarterback go over
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: the top?
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: Coming from Caleb Fan, No, I'm not going to say
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: he's better than Jordan Love yet.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 2: I think he's already better from.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 4: From a from a a former Jordan Love guy.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 3: I think I'm taking Caleb Williams.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: I would take Caleb Williams. I mean he's a better runner,
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: like better, he's just better all around. In my opinion,
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: he doesn't Maybe you Caleb Williams doesn't make a mental mistake.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: You know who's gonna do it, or you're going to
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 3: take a double guy that is not a double agent.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 3: But sometimes why are you getting into this corner? Bro?
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: Like I'm saying Bo Nicks and.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: Caleb Williams doesn't throw at least.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: When Caleb Williams throws in an interception, not using Yeah
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 3: he looks against me.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like he he broke like four tackles and then
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 4: he threw.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: I know he's out.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: That's why I call it at least william a quarter.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 3: Oh serious, No, I'm not having that comment because let's
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 3: hear let's hear it. I'm not here.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: He's better than Yes, he's better than Mahomes yes.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 4: To kissed me off.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 3: I don't want to have the conversation.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, come on, bro, what do you mean broach the door?
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, I was gonna bring up Door's leading receiver for
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: the last three weeks has been a tight end and
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: he don't got trade.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 3: Hard fans him. Bro.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: I like Harold fan I love Harold.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 3: Fann has been probably the best tight end in the class.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: Like I love Harold, I love Harold Fanning.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 3: But the Cardinals number one receiver over his all entirety,
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: was a tight end.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: Like you just got to ride off, bro Tyreek Hill.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill Kelsey was.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 4: I think they both worked hand in hand.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 3: They both were work hand in hand together.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill was so good.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 3: But I'm not, dude, what do you mean?
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: I said?
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 3: T was like, who what?
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, you're not. I was joking.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: My point is Harold Fannin has been his leading receiver
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: for the last three weeks. He's a rookie tight end
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: out of Bowling Green.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 3: Sam reporter doesn't exist, like wasn't the one?
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: Was the one?
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 4: It's his gear.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: But I'm I'm saying, you gotta you gotta surround him
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: with more weapons.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 4: Sucker craft on the Packers.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, four, I would take I would take the wide receiver.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 4: For he was on the Cowboys.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: Zach Ertz, Cole Beasley, Coleby bro and Ryan Switzer, Kolby Parkinson.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 3: This game you could have said Dez. But whatever.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: I was, I was being salty.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 4: But is better than Michael Thomas.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: Thomas not better than Michael Thomas statistically, just factually.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: Cooler brackets Actually factually.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: You know who looks cooler talking into.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 3: The cooler does look more touchdowns than Michael Thomas?
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: Who has more yards?
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: It don't matter.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 3: We won six point six. You want six six on
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 3: the board.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: A k.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 3: He rushing yards does he have? Though?
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: Why does it matter? How can you? How can your
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: argument be des Bryant has more touchdowns, and then I
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: go a K and you go, he doesn't have yards.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: You're so hypercritical, you're so hypocritically. You literally just.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 3: Made our point.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: Michael Thomas is better. Michael Thomas better, and it's not
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: even close.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 4: We were to take away stats and just put on highlights.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 2: Michael Thomas, Michael Thomas, Michael Thomas, Michael Thomas, Michael Thomas,
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 2: Michael Thomas, Michael Thomas, Michael Thomas, Michael Thomas, Michael Thomas,
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: Michael Thomas, Michael Thomas, Michael Thomas. One Michael Thomas. His shoulder,
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: he literally has, He literally has.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 4: One time he went over the top on a guy.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 4: He did not get double team off the line, Bro,
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 4: he did not get do.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: Give me, Michael Thomas, Give me, Michael Thomas. Yes, we're
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: fucking smart. Give me Michael Thomas. Go ahead, look up
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: des bryant highlights, and then go ahead and show me
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: his highlights against the best corners in the NFL. Show
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: me his highlights against a Richard Sherman. What does he
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: do fucking nothing?
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: All right, buddy, what.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: Does Michael Thomas do against the best corners of the
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: NFL against a Jalen Ramsey.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: All right, buddy, you see all of these right here.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: That's all the times Des Bryan's been double covered. You
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: see all You see all that, buddy, you you see this?
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: You see that one right there? You see that one
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: right there? Has Michael Thomas ever done that?
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: Right there?
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 3: You know how bad Michael?
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: You see that right They gets cooler.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 3: Michael sign gets Bro to push their team over the top.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 3: They had to go side to push their team over the.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: Top on Michael. Okay, can can you show something to
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: the pot for me? Can you look up who was
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: the twenty nineteen Offensive Player of the Year. Can you
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: look Can you look that up for me?
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. It's irrelevant.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 3: H You remember eighty eight.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: My arguments are irrelevant. Your arguments are all valid. Okay,
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: I understand, Yeah exactly.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you're starting to catch on to this.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, I understand, I understand. Go go show me the
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: reception leaders, Go show me you know.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: Reception loo, Bro, who looks cooler?
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 3: Bro?
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: You know you know you always have this.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: You know who looks cooler? You know who looks cooler?
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: The guy in the blackout accepting the Offensive Player of
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: the Year award over Derreck Henry whenever he ran for
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: two thousand yards?
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: Should that one?
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 3: Still give me?
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 4: Bran?
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 3: Still give me?
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: Always the Russell Westbrook pros who looks cooler compared to
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: Kevin Durant. But now it's football, and now it's Oh
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: look at all the stats and everything. Yeah, yeah, you
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: changed your mind.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: Now keep no, I'm not, no, I'm not. The argument
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: for russ is that ages a triple double for four
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 2: seasons seasons.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: Triple double, that's all you say.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: He also looked doing it. He looked cool as fuck
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: doing it. Michael Thomas put up the fucking stats and
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: ran slants. Oh okay, that's all he did. Stop it,
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: stop it. That's what I say.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: That's what I and we did.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: We fucking double team though we did. No, he didn't score.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 3: Who won that game? Go look at it?
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know Cowboys.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, I just gotta take your word because it's
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: fucking gospel apparently, get the fuck out of here. Let's
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: get to them less.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 3: Michael Thomas didn't even better than Terrence Williams.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: Bro Dude, I'm actually kind of certain to sweat guys.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: We need to get to the next fucking topic, bro, Jets.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 4: They were topics with the Jaguars still.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, no, this is quickly because Bright I
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: wouldn't talk about it. Forty eight points for the Jaguars
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: in this one. Trevor Lawns six touchdowns the most the
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: guy that, I mean, just this team that Josh just
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: hated on on the pod.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 3: He said, the.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: Guy. I had to let y'all know, I have t
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: law in dynasty.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 3: And whenever we were praising a win over the Jets
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 3: and Brady Cook and Brady Cook his first career start
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 3: it was the third streak behind Tyrod Taylor and Justin
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 3: Fields were celebrating a win.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: Whenever you hang up six touchdowns, everybody, they're still an NFL.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 3: And Quentin Williams were George celebrating that Jets get out
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 3: of here, dude, set out of here.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: Six tutters for Trevor Lawrence. I mean, they look really
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: good right now. I'm not saying they're a threat, but
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: they're looking really good.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 4: I'll be it against the number one and number two receivers.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 3: Just got traded from the Indianapolis Colts, and he was
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 3: like their sixth receiver and a cancer patient, Like, we're
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 3: we're going we're going crazy for a team that just
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 3: beat that team.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 2: They whooped the ship out of the Chargers, who just
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 2: beat and swept the Chiefs.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 3: Brady Cook rushing yards swept rushing yards than breeze swept.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 3: Brady Cook had more rushing Chargers.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: Sweep the Chiefs defending Super Bowl? And what did the
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: Jags do? Whooped the ship out of the Chargers, whooped
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: the ship out of the Cardinals, whoop the ship out
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: of the Titans, whooped the ship out of the Colts,
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: whooped the ship out of the Jets.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 3: So a team without oh oh what else?
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: What other team did they beat? What other team did
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: they beat? Their Chiefs?
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 4: Well, we're out of the playoffs, so it's not that impressive.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 2: What other team did they beat? The forty nine ers?
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: They did beat the Niners?
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: The Texans that did beat.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 3: The Tech good one Texans were asked at the time.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, we're raised maading breaking right now. We're rage made
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: them too much?
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 3: Okay, but he just named he just named like seven
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 3: or eight teams are out of the playoffs.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what are.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: You know what? I think it's just time to get
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: to our game. This last game that we're gonna do. So, yeah,
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: they're still frauds. They're still frauds.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: They're still they're not froud the the Jacoby Myers edition
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 2: has completely unlocked t Low. Jacoby Myers guys gone down.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 3: From the Patriots and to the and to the Raiders
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 3: and got traded to the Jaguars. Okay, so I'm gonna you, guys,
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 3: been on three teams and four years, watch.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: Years watch the Jags.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 3: You haven't watched the jacket paper?
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: Do you tell you to go watch the fucking game.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you to go. Just look his stats. Go
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 2: look at his stats. Go look at his stats. At
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: least Joshua, he's gone for fucking insane with cha Kobe Meyers.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 3: Go to Christian Kirk. Am I supposed to be like
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 3: raising the roof for that or something like like what
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 3: do you want me to do? Re cann't fall for it?
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: Like he's ten and four.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: He's ten and four. Your team's out of the fucking playoffs.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 3: They made the playoffs with Christian Kirk that year too,
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 3: and they got bouncing. They blew the second divisional round.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: They even get bounced round one. They turned back down
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 2: thirty one.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Chargers suck and they fired their coach after
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 3: that season, So what do you what do you want
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 3: them to do?
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: Like Brea cann't fall for it? Stay called.
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 2: My point, you cannot discredit a win.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 3: Like multiple times breaking like, what do you want me
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 3: to do?
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: Who the fuck has the Chiefs beat?
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 3: Uh? It don't matter.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 4: They won three Super Bowls the last five years.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you guys right level?
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 2: Have they ever been? I don't think they've ever been.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: No, they haven't been.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 2: My My point is t Law did good. You cannot
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: discredit an amazing game from a quarterback. I don't care.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 2: They're an NFL team at the end of the day.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Three players on the Jets defense without looking
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 3: at the look, without looking at the roster.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 2: Williams.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 3: What's his first name? What's his first name?
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 2: Okay McDonald?
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's his first name.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 2: Couldn't tell you, Yeah, exactly.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 3: Play for Iowa State. His first name is Will McDonald.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 3: Are right?
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 2: Will McDonald? They have a corner that I like.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 3: Who They traded him and the other to sign with
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 3: the Lions in the offseason. So who else?
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: Hexay?
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: No one from last week? Because I had a draft
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: him for Can I help him out? I'll give him one.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 4: Hey, name me three receivers for the Jets. Save me
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 4: three receivers.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: John Mitchie, Adam and Mitchell Mason Taylor.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: That's a title.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: He receives the ball, doesn't he?
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 3: Nope?
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 4: You know what I meant?
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 2: So a wide receiver, yeah, Corley.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: Nope, he's not even on their teams on the Browns.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 3: Fuck yeah, Okay, so I just dis credited the Jaguars
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 3: freaking win. You can't even name six players on two
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 3: prominent positions. Name I gave you the whole defense. I
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 3: give you the whole defense. You could have named three
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 3: players like they're.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 2: Like one of the worst teams in the NFL.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Recket, Like thank you? Like, what what do
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 3: you want me to do?
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: Recket? You fell for it?
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: All right? I'm I'm I'm saying, okay, cool, he hung
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 2: up points on a bad team. He's still he still
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: did it. It's an NFL team.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 3: Sounds a lot like a Saints fan of me. You know,
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 3: it's just celebrating mediocre wins.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 4: So it's okay.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know why you're talking. Yeah, look at the
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 2: fucking Chiefs. You would you would be, you would be
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: glazing the fuck out of the Chiefs as if they
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 2: beat the Jets.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would, But that's it's not about me right now.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 3: It's about you and the Jaguars. Like, I don't know
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 3: what you're I don't.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: Know how you can discredit and win. In the NFL,
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: it's a win. They locked they locked up a playoff spot.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 4: And Jets are one step closer to a top three pick.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: So yep, the Chiefs are one step closer to a
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 2: top five pick.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 3: I hope, so, I hope so break and I hope
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 3: we lose the argument.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: You're not gonna win this argument. Let's just let's just
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: start this game right here.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: So all right, that's the dumbest fucking argument you've ever made, Joshua,
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 2: dumbest fucking argument. Last year took the Chiefs to the
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 2: overtime the last fucking second. You guys almost lost to
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 2: the dog shit Panthers last year and made.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 7: The fucking Super Bowl. And what was your argument, Joshua,
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 7: what was your argument? Weekend week out, weekend week out,
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 7: any given Sunday. We all know what this is. This
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 7: is a precious league. This isn't the NBA, This isn't
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 7: fucking This isn't baseball. When said you can't drop a game,
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 7: you cannot drop a game in the NFL. If you
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 7: drop a single fucking game, you're the Chiefs. You're not eliminated.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 7: Have you have a single game? Look at you, You're
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 7: the Cowboys.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 2: You need the fucking forty nine ers from San Andreas
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: fault line to get active for them to make the
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: fucking playoffs this year. All right, you drop a single
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: fucking game to anybody. Look at the Saints. We don't
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 2: drop games, Bro, you don't drop the game.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 3: I've been dropping a lot for the last couple of seasons.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 3: You've been dropping, dropping the ball in a lot of
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 3: like flies.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: Josh, we're in the exact same boat right now, Dude.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 3: No, I don't think so.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 3: I don't think we are.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. My quarterback has both his acls right now.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 2: I got two quarterbacks with both acls. I have four
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: acls right now that are way better than your one.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 4: All the Chiefs leftovers, breckon, you're riding on all the
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 4: Chiefs leftovers.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we needed to sign some dogshit players to get
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 2: a top five pick.
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 4: Well, all your Super Bowl champions are all from our team,
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 4: so be grateful.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: I do not here about how many super Bowl champions
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 2: that my guy has. I want him to do good
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 2: on my team. I don't give a fuck what he
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 2: did on another team.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 3: Well, they haven't done that, have they.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: Fonzo, Why the fuck are you laughing? Huh, dude, you
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: gotta for the last fifty It's not even rage me.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 2: It's just idiot. He's just a fucking like. It's such
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 2: a players on the defense, Breckon, you name three. I
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 2: didn't have to name the Chiefs starting line right now.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 3: She's starting O line like right now, right now, all right,
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 3: sl poll at the at the left tackle. We have
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 3: Matt Caliendo and freaking Jalen Moore. That's five players, Breckon,
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 3: that's all my offensive line. What do you want me
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 3: to do? I know two of those the lineman we
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 3: have on our team. You want me to do that too?
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's such a dumb arguing. It's such a dumb argle.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 3: You actually started his first game this season in his
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 3: NFL career after being brought up from the practice squad
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 3: last week. I made his NFL debut, So thank you
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 3: very much. Breckon questioned me about my team. Worry about
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 3: your team, buddy.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, Michael Thomas still isn't better. But all right,
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: as far as the NFL quarterback, so the six may
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: traits for a quarterback is IQ, accuracy, pocket presence, arm, talent, leadership,
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: and mobility, according to chat GBT, so we are going
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: to build an.
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 3: NFL mediocre wins and put Trevor Lawrence as my pick.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 2: Shut them, dude, Oh my god.
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, So we could do spin the wheel. It
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: could be any quarterback from the team if you know
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: their roster, Brecon, So it could be anybody. So say,
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: for instance, let's just say mobility, and it's just a
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: backup for let's just say the Colts. You wouldn't want
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: Philip Rivers. You could have Anthony Richardson's mobility or something
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: like that. So it could be backups or it could
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: be starting quarterback, just as long as you know without
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: looking it up. So I'm gonna just keep it in
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: this order, Josh, you go first, then break, and then
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: I'll go. And it doesn't matter which order it goes in.
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: So we're gonna go and start it off right here,
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: all right, is.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 3: It Jacksonville, Detroit.
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, Detroit, those.
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 3: Do Jared goffs?
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: Can I assume this.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 4: In Jared Goff's accuracy?
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Breckon, you are next. I hope it's
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: I hope it's Jaguars.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 3: Oh thank god he didn't get the bills of Arizona Cardinals.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 2: Give me Kyler Murray's leadership.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: What the's gonna take? I don't I don't even know
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: if that's tic spell his name.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 3: Height on there. You should have put a height at
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 3: the category.
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: All right, let's see what is next? Oh, we can't
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: reuse the same players?
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 3: Your choice? Why do you always get your choice?
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 2: Hey?
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: Hey, hey, mm, which one am I gonna take of
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: my homes? Because I mean leadership that includes like clutch
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: and tangibles. But I feel like that'd be using pocket presence.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: Would I rather use pocket presence? Or no? You know what?
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: Give me give me arm talent of Josh Allen. Give
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: me arm talent of Josh Allen.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 3: Dang. I would have went Lamar's mobility.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot of mobile quarterbacks out there.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: They don't have to be You get the New Orleans Saints, Josh,
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: you want.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 3: Chucker Rattler, give me.
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 4: Ship, dude.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you want mobility, leadership, arm talent, pocket
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: presents are IQ.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 4: Cure?
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 8: Okay, uh give me Tyler Shuck's.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 4: Mobility s h o u g h h.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 3: O u g h okay, all right, hopefully everything else
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 3: makes up for it.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: All right? You are getting? Is that Philly? That is Philly?
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 4: The backup hurts.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: Accuracy hurts accuracy, not mobility.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 3: I think he's building the worst quarterback he possibly can.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 3: I think so.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: I think we rage.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just building.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 2: Trevor so fucking stupid. Can you admit that your arguments
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 2: just fucking retarded, Joshua? No, your argument makes no fucking sense.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 2: Your argument makes no sense. During the Dynasty, during the
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 2: Dynasty Draft, it was between the was justin Herbert available
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 2: Law and me and josh had back to back picks
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 2: and it was literally, hey, whoever you take, I'll take
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 2: the other guy. And I took te Law and he
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 2: took Hurts and he was like, I'm cool. I don't
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 2: know where all this hurts, where all this tee law
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 2: heat comes from.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 4: No, it was just really for that segment, like why
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 4: I wanted to.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's fucking stupid because before the pot I
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 3: said that I think they're they're better than they were
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 3: at the beginning of the season.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 4: He just wanted, I just really want it.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 2: It's it's so idiotic, bro, like, like you you have
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 2: so many football takes that you stand so proudly on
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 2: and so high on, and then whenever it doesn't pan out,
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 2: you're like, it was just I was just kidding. I
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: don't fully agree with that. I don't. George Pickens actually
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 2: is pretty good. I'm sorry, like, like, she's good, what
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 2: do you mean? Yeah?
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 7: But then but then I was over here, I was
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 7: saying George Dickens was top ten two years ago.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 3: He was arguing he wasn't two years ago.
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 2: But he was arguing that he was amazing, and you
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 2: were shitting on him. He was shitting on him. And
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 2: then okay, yes, you I'm saying that you can take
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 2: back what you can take. You can say you were wrong.
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 2: I said I was wrong about Rome. I said that
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 2: I was wrong about Luther Burden. Say you're wrong about
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 2: t Law.
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 4: I'm not, though, Like he played the Jets reckon, what
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 4: do you want me to do?
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 2: Dude? He statistically had a fucking insane game, an absolutely
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 2: insane game. When's the last time we seen a quarterback
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 2: do that?
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 3: Josh Anna had six touchdowns like a couple of weeks ago.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 2: Cool, the fucking reigning MVP in the NFL. I mean,
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 2: the guy that you say, the guy that he says
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 2: top to, the guy that you say is top two.
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 2: So you're saying that he's doing the same thing as
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 2: a top three guy. You're saying that he's doing the
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 2: same thing.
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 4: It's not had trouble lorn fifth and at one point.
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 2: So he did the same thing that a guy that
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 2: is hands down top three in the NFL. He did
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 2: the exact same thing, and you're just discrediting it, saying, oh,
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 2: that's whatever it was against the Jets. It's a fucking
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 2: NFL team.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, when do you go for like eight against
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 3: Alabama or something like that, Like, what do you want
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 3: me to do?
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 2: Dude? It's it's such a fucking stupid argument, such a
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 2: fucking stupid argument. And I know you're laughing.
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 4: That word never came out of my mouth. That's only
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 4: from you and Fonso.
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 2: So you you will die on that fucking hill. You
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 2: will die on the hill that that te Law is
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 2: apparently dogship and all these stats that he put up
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 2: our fucking empty calories.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 4: No, I think he's like the ninth best quarterback in
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 4: the NFL.
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 2: He's doing better than my Homes right now.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 3: Well, who's gonna be in the Hall of Fame? So
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 3: I'm wondering, So don't matter to me.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 2: I bet t Law gets in. I bet my fucking
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 2: house on that.
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 3: Well, Mahomes retires today and he's in the Hall of Fame.
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 3: Two retires today. He's forgotten about.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 2: So give him two more years.
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 3: Let's give him two more years. Let's see, let's give
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 3: him two more years.
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 2: Give him two more years. All right.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 4: I don't understand where the gave me Drake may arm talent.
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 3: Okay, I don't hate Drake Tea Law. I just like
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 3: it's not that impressive.
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: Bro breaking gets Jacksonville.
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 2: I'm hoping you'd have had fucking five hundred yards, not.
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: That Seattle Seahawks for you breaking, Yeah, three hundred seahawks.
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 4: Hey, Sam Darnold's a goat. You can't go no wrong
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 4: with this.
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: Better than.
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, who's the back of uh mobility? Would be nice?
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 3: Fuck?
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 2: Give me mil Row, I Q. Now, why do you
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 2: say that because I think he's smarter than my homes. Josh,
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 2: he's got a better record. He's got a better record.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: Right now, I got the Jacksonville Jaguars. Who's the backup
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: for the Jaguars? Okay, pocket press?
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 4: The backup for the Jaguars?
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: Like who is the genuinely, I don't know the backup
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: for the Jaguars.
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 3: You'll never need to put him record.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: What do you think would be best for Trevor Lawrence
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: right here? Mobility, leadership, pocket presence or act?
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 4: All of them doesn't mobility? Mobile doesn't matter.
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, I'll take t Law's mobility. It's not it's
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 1: not great, but it's not bad either. All right, Josh,
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: you got that's Seattle Seahawks one away from the Homes
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: and Jayalen Mi taken.
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 3: I know I was looking at them. I was like
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 3: gonna say, put him at mobility, But I got the
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 3: mother shucker give me Sam Donald's leadership.
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: I wonder how Donald's leadership is.
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 4: I feel like it's amazing. Just look at him, it's great.
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: Look at Jason. All right, you got the Denver Broncos brecon.
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 2: Can I say, bow Knick's feet he doesn't know how
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 2: to fucking.
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 3: I mean there's pocket presents.
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 2: Pocket present was pocket persons is bad. He knows how
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 2: to escape, he just doesn't know how to set his
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 2: feet when he throws. I mean, I guess I'll take
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 2: arm talent. He hasn't shown anything amazing.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 3: Dude, how did you get Aaron Rodgers?
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 4: I Q?
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 1: I got the Steelers?
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 4: Dude, your teams are your quarterbacks aready better?
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 1: Bro, Let's see what is my next one?
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 3: No?
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 1: No, no, I wanted dak Oh do I want Baker leadership?
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 1: Wherek just like talk shit?
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 3: Don't get Baker's coming out of college.
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 1: I know, I mean lately, according to Break, in the
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 1: past six weeks, it's been terrible. You know what, Give
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 1: me Baker leadership. I want some spark. I want some
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 1: spark from my quarterback. I want I want some fire.
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 4: No way, no way, bro, yes.
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 3: Hell yes no oh yeah, Donald's.
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 1: You're just building to Donald.
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 3: Is Sam Darnold smart? Like there's a lot of interceptions.
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 3: Give me his pocket presence.
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 1: All right, let's see breaking your second to last pick
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 1: is no way, no way? Please stay ah Okay, the
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 1: commanders so Daniel's health, Jad and Daniels for Mariota. I
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 1: mean both aren't really bad. In all honesty, Give.
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 2: Me Logan Thomas pocket presence. I'm just kidding, give me
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 2: Mariota my pocket presence.
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, mobility would have been good for Mariota to be honest.
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 1: Or even JD. Yeah, let's see, is that Colts.
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 4: And you're gonna get his You're gonna get pocket Philip Rivers.
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's Philip Philip Rivers kind of like accurate,
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 1: but oh bro, she should have took Baker for accuracy.
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 4: Are you getting Philip Rivers? Now we're in the prime and.
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 2: Right now, I would take his pocket presence.
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, both aren't bad, but like Daniel Jones's pocket presence,
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 3: you wouldn't go Daniel Jones pocket presence.
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 2: He's injured. Like, are we allowed to take injured guys?
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 1: I mean you took Kyler Murray.
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, a good point, and Fonso took t Law
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 3: So I mean.
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 1: You know what, Just give me Philip Rivers pocket presence.
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 1: He's been around long.
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 2: Josh, I I got you a sign my homes poster
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 2: for Christmas. I'm not giving it to you. Bro getting Cleveland, I.
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 3: Got you, I got you two Spencer ral r Pas.
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 3: But I'm not giving to you no more now, so whatever, Okay,
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 3: that's cool.
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 1: Side lock card, but he's gonna just throw it away now.
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, what.
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 3: Did I get?
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 1: The Cleveland Browns?
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 2: Way? Bro, my quarterback might be better.
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean there's the wait wait wait no,
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say the show I no, no, no, no,
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 1: wait actually.
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 3: Actually, don't crap.
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel deer iq.
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 3: Bro, give me your deer iq.
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 1: Al right, who is breaking gonna get for mobility?
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 3: Let's see, dude, it was like Jared goff me too.
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 2: I can't take her, Yeah, you can't. Already taken for accuracy.
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 1: I took Donald twice, took Arnold twice.
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 2: The fuck.
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 1: So Jalen Hurts?
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 2: It is?
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 4: Who is the Eagles backup?
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 2: It's not picket anymore.
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 1: Who's gonna be my accuracy?
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 3: Sam how it's Sam Howe?
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah it is Sammy Sosa is my accuracy?
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 3: Take Sam How accuracy?
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 2: Bro?
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 3: Oh, it hurts. You're gonna bet howl over hurts accuracy.
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 1: Out of spite. No, I'm not gonna do it. I
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 1: guess I'll take Jalen Hurts.
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 1: This is the full. This is the full thing building
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 1: a quarterback. So Josh IQ is here. Accuracy, golf, pocket presence,
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 1: Donald Arm, Telling Drake, leadership, Sam Donald, mobility, Tyler Schuck,
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 1: Breckans quarterback, Iq mill Roll accuracy hurts your presidence, Mariota
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 1: arm talent, Bow Knicks leadership, Kyler Urry, mobility, jailing hurts
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 1: then for mine, Iq a Rod accuracy hurts pocket presence,
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, arm talent, Josh Allen leadership, Baker and mobility
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 1: t Law right there, All right, before we get out
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 1: of here, let's do our so called a VP's of
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 1: the week.
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 3: One guy.
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 1: We think we stood out to that throughout the entire week. Breckon,
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 1: who's your so called AVP?
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 2: Nah? I want to hear Josh's. I want to hear
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 2: Josh's first.
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 3: All right, Josh, I want to hear Fonzo's first.
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 1: You know what give you? Mister Puki Nakua nine for
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty one. Just an amazing day. But
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 1: also I know somebody was gonna pick him. Just shout
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 1: out to Kyle Pitts man, Just shout out to Kyle Pitts.
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 1: But all right, all right, Josh, who's yours got a
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 1: cup on the screen right here.
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 3: Mine's gonna be a Trevor Lawrence for throwing three hundred
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 3: and thirty yards in five touchdowns versus the New York
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 3: Jets to win, to just absolutely obliterate them, have one
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 3: of the best games all year. You just I love it.
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 1: I love it, Judge, who's your so called VP?
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 2: I think my so called m VP is actually gonna
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 2: be a whole entire team this week. It's gonna be
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 2: the Chargers for taking out Patrick Mahomes and tearing his
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 2: A C L and L c L or whatever the
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 2: fuck it is. He's gonna get reconstruction surgery. It's gonna
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 2: get infected. It's not gonna recover correctly.
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 3: Alex Smith, now he's Alex Smith.
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 2: They might have to amputate it. I don't know. Dylan
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 2: Ryola is not gonna go to Tech.
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 4: I don't I don't care if Dylan ryl It goes
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 4: to Tech or not.
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 2: Gosh fucking Josh, I just spite you to spite.
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 1: Me twist his quid TikTok it'scramma YouTube under t s
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 1: SA with a so called sports analyst wh listen to
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 1: this nipe for another day. We appreciate it. Make you
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 1: sure there's anybody that likes sports.
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 3: We talk to you soon.
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 1: You guys, take care, Oh my guys.