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Manager Rob Thomson joins The Phillies Show · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Hi, This Rob Thompson and welcome to the Philly Show.
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Speaker 2: It is Friday, January thirty first, twenty twenty five, Eagle
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Speaker 2: super Bowl nine days away, but Phillies pitchers and catchers
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Speaker 2: have their first workout in clear Water in twelve days,
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Speaker 2: first full squad workout seventeen days. Who better to set
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Speaker 2: the scene than Phillies manager Rob Thompson. Rob Thompson joins
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Speaker 2: Here we go, everybody, Rob Thompson. Rob, thanks so much
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Speaker 2: for the Philly Show. How are you doing. How's the
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Speaker 2: off season going? You're in clear Water?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for having me. It's good to be in
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Speaker 1: clear Water. I got here yesterday. I drove down from
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Speaker 1: Canada or yeah, down from Canada. And uh, it was
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Speaker 1: a good drive. Roads were clear, the weather it was
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Speaker 1: beautiful and it's really nice here.
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Speaker 2: That's awesome.
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Speaker 3: What time did you get to the What time did
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Speaker 3: you get to the ballpark today? Rob? I think your
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Speaker 3: record is two thirty six a m.
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Speaker 1: Well, it was around three because I've because of my drive,
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Speaker 1: I like to drive. I'd like to get up early,
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Speaker 1: and if I'm going to drive in the dark, I
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Speaker 1: like to do it early in the morning instead of
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Speaker 1: at night when I'm tired. So I've been out pretty
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Speaker 1: early the last couple of days, and so I got
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Speaker 1: up early today and came in.
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Speaker 2: That's awesome. And then, uh, you know, got to ask
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Speaker 2: your raf the bat, who are you picking for the
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl?
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Speaker 1: Oh? Eagles?
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Speaker 2: Where are you guys going to watch that? Because you
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Speaker 2: all be down there right, I mean, everybody'll be down there.
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Speaker 2: You guys have like a big group thing planned yet
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Speaker 2: already or what?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we do you know we're gonna We're gonna all
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Speaker 1: get together and watch it one of the places here
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Speaker 1: in clear Water and it's gonna be a good time.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll be fun.
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Speaker 1: So you took a little vacation. Tell us about your
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Speaker 1: vacation real quick. Yeah, we went to Ireland. I took
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Speaker 1: my entire family, so my wife Michelle, my daughter Christina,
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Speaker 1: and my daughter Jacqueline and their boyfriends and we went
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Speaker 1: to Ireland for twelve days. The reason we went over
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Speaker 1: in the beginning was Kevin Long's son was married over there,
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Speaker 1: So we spent three days there and then we just
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Speaker 1: Michelle had rented a tour bus. It was our own bus.
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Speaker 1: We had a driver. The driver went with us everywhere
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Speaker 1: and stayed with us, and he was kind of our
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Speaker 1: tour guide. And we went all over the country and
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Speaker 1: it was fantastic. The sites, the scenery, the people there
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Speaker 1: were just wonderful. We had a great time. I had
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Speaker 1: been there before, or no, is it the first ever? Really,
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Speaker 1: the first time I've ever done something that with my
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Speaker 1: something like that with my entire family. So, you know,
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Speaker 1: we got back a couple of days before I came
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Speaker 1: down here to Clearwater. So I'm a little sped up
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Speaker 1: right now. I feel like I'm not. I'm way behind.
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Speaker 1: I got a lot of stuff to catch up on.
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Speaker 2: So have againness that will calm me down right, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: make you feel like kind easy back into it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, my daughter's uh boy, my daughter's boyfriend, Harrison. You
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Speaker 1: want a bunch of chugging contests over there. So we're
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Speaker 1: really proud of him. We call him the Canada Goose.
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Speaker 1: He's a legend in Ireland. That's awesome. So what was
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Speaker 1: the food like? Tell us about the food and where?
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Speaker 4: What was your favorite you know stops as far as
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Speaker 4: and favorite eats.
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Speaker 1: Well, we did a lot of pub food and at
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Speaker 1: night it was my daughter Christina's thirtieth birthday, so we
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Speaker 1: went to a really nice restaurant there. You know, the
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Speaker 1: food was fantastic. Fish was excellent. We did a lot
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Speaker 1: of stuff around them, you know, by the ocean, so
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Speaker 1: we had a lot of fish and chicken was really good.
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Speaker 1: The steak was really good. And I'm not a lamb guy,
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Speaker 1: but the lamb they said was the best they've ever had.
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Speaker 5: Wow.
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Speaker 3: Maybe you should Maybe you could bring your the chugging
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Speaker 3: So you guys, have you know, had some you know
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Speaker 3: three three years in a row you played October, different results,
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Speaker 3: but still a heck of a team, a lot of
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Speaker 3: high expectations. Have you thought about what you're gonna tell
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Speaker 3: the club in a couple of weeks when they come
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Speaker 3: together for day one of spring training, what your kind
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Speaker 3: of traditional opening camp speech might be like?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think the the biggest thing that
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Speaker 1: I want to make sure that they understand that they're
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Speaker 1: really good, because there's a lot of noise around us,
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Speaker 1: you know, and I think and I think it's it's
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Speaker 1: natural that people from on the outside they see the club.
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Speaker 1: You know that in twenty two we go to the
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Speaker 1: World Series. The next year the CS, the next year
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Speaker 1: we get beaten the DS, and it looks like we're
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Speaker 1: going backwards, and in my mind, we're going forward. Every
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Speaker 1: year we've had a better roster. I think at this
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Speaker 1: point this year, I think our roster is better than
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Speaker 1: it was a year ago. We've improved on our regular
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Speaker 1: season wins every year, so I think we're still growing
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Speaker 1: and we're still getting better. And you know, again, the
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Speaker 1: playoff results haven't been there, and it looks like we're
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Speaker 1: going backwards, But in my mind, I think we're going
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Speaker 1: forwards and we've got a really good club.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, people talk about this the windows starting to close.
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Speaker 1: Do you feel that at all?
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Speaker 2: I don't.
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Speaker 5: As just an observer and it's someone who watches every
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Speaker 5: single game, obviously you as well are assessing things. How
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Speaker 5: do you talk about the people who think that this
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Speaker 5: window is closing, that the people, you know, the players
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Speaker 5: are getting older and that sort of thing.
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Speaker 1: Well, they are, they're getting older, but they're gaining some experience,
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Speaker 1: and the young younger guys are gaining experience and playoff
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Speaker 1: experience the Stots and the Bones and the Marshes and
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Speaker 1: the Rowjases of the world. And now we've got this
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Speaker 1: group of prospects coming too. You've got Painter and Chasse,
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Speaker 1: and you've got Miller and Crawford and all these guys,
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Speaker 1: Auto Kemp, all these guys are coming. So, you know,
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Speaker 1: I think there's a really good thing going on right here,
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Speaker 1: right now, because we've got a really good group of
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Speaker 1: experienced guys that are good people, and we've got this
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Speaker 1: group of younger players coming through or coming up, and
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Speaker 1: they're going to learn from the experienced guys, the veterans,
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Speaker 1: and eventually they're going to be veterans as well. And
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Speaker 1: so I think if we can keep this thing rolling
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Speaker 1: and keep you know, keep moving people up and into
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Speaker 1: the picture, we're going to be fine. I don't see
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Speaker 1: the picture this thing closing at all, to tell you
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Speaker 1: the truth, I.
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Speaker 2: Think maybe a big reason for that, at least in
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Speaker 2: my mind, is getting Jesus Lizardo to kind of fill
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Speaker 2: out that rotation. We haven't talked to you since that
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Speaker 2: trade went down. I guess what was your reaction to
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Speaker 2: getting Lizardo? How does he fit into the rotation? I
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Speaker 2: know he fits, but you know, and and and you know,
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Speaker 2: what are your expectations for him this season?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Just we just need to keep him healthy. You know,
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Speaker 1: that's a big arm. And just watching him from from
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Speaker 1: Afar and from across the Diamond, this guy's got big
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Speaker 1: stuff and he's I think he's got to make up
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Speaker 1: to I know he's got the makeup to pitch in Philadelphia,
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Speaker 1: and that's a big deal. I think he's tough, and
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Speaker 1: he's aggressive and he goes after people and he's not afraid. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: he's he was a big pick up. You know that.
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Speaker 1: That really gives us a lot of depth because you know,
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Speaker 1: and I hope Taiwan really benefits from this program. I've
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Speaker 1: talked about a couple of times over the course of
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Speaker 1: the season or of course of the off season, and
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Speaker 1: body feels good, arm feels really good. Caesar Ramos went
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Speaker 1: out to see him and said he since since Caesar
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Speaker 1: has been with him, this is the best the time
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Speaker 1: ones look. So hopefully it translates now. Now we got
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Speaker 1: a lot of depth. Now we got things happening, you know,
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Speaker 1: and then you get hopefully Painter comes sometime this summer.
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Speaker 1: We expect that if he's healthy and he's pitching well. Again,
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Speaker 1: we got Chas Say and we got Tyler Phillip. I mean,
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Speaker 1: we got a lot of depth there. We got a
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Speaker 1: lot of resources to pull from.
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Speaker 4: And speaking of the rotation, I was just kind of curious.
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Speaker 4: You know, some people have talked about, you know, once
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Speaker 4: here would you think about going to a six man rotation?
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Speaker 4: Other teams have been talking about it that have a
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Speaker 4: little bit of starting pitching depth. I know it's a
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Speaker 4: great problem to have to have all those guys healthy.
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Speaker 4: How do you feel about that possibility, maybe not at
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Speaker 4: the outset, but maybe later on during the course of
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Speaker 4: the season.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so, you know, I think that's something
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Speaker 1: you definitely have to look at because you got to
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Speaker 1: protect Andrew and now by the time we get him,
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Speaker 1: we're going to be a good portion through the season
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Speaker 1: and the rest of the guys may need a little
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Speaker 1: bright they may need an extra day. So that's definitely
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Speaker 1: something that you look at. Hopefully you get in length
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Speaker 1: from all those guys because it shortens your bullpen, but
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Speaker 1: once you you know, once you get the September, you
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Speaker 1: can out of pitcher. So yeah, that's certainly something we
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Speaker 1: need to look at.
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Speaker 3: Do you think it'll be a challenge to convince a
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Speaker 3: guy like Zach Wheeler that that might be the best
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Speaker 3: thing for the ball up, especially when you expect to
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Speaker 3: pitch an extra month in October, or could you work
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Speaker 3: around him in his desire to stay on his fifth day.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that that'd be a conversation with Zach and see
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Speaker 1: how it reacts to it. But there's always with off days,
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Speaker 1: there's always ways to work around it. And she said,
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Speaker 1: you know, you might have one of those other guys
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Speaker 1: that just needs a one time through the rotation where
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Speaker 1: you know, you put him at the back so you
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Speaker 1: keep on Zach on the fifth day. So there's there's
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Speaker 1: a lot of ways to be able to kind of
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Speaker 1: play with it, but definitely that's a conversation that we'll
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Speaker 1: have to have with that.
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Speaker 3: What are you here? What are you hearing about Ranger
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Speaker 3: and his off season program? Because you know, he was
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Speaker 3: two different pitchers last year, and you know what, what's
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Speaker 3: he been doing this winter? And how do you expect
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Speaker 3: him to come in there to clear Water in a
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Speaker 3: few days.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I expect him to come in a camp in
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Speaker 1: shape and ready to go. You know, he's doing his
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Speaker 1: throwing program and hopefully he's working hard at and he's healthy,
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Speaker 1: and you know, we get him through a full season
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Speaker 1: because it seems like every year, you know, he gets
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Speaker 1: banged up here and there. But you know, we'll just
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Speaker 1: have to take good care of him and make sure
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Speaker 1: we keep them sharp. You know. The one thing that
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Speaker 1: it's it's difficult because he pitched so well early and
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Speaker 1: so it's really hard to take him out of games
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Speaker 1: when he's he's at six innings and he's got sixty pitches,
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Speaker 1: you know, and all of a sudden he's throwing eight
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Speaker 1: innings with eighty five pitches and now you can take
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Speaker 1: him out, but still the innings just added up on
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Speaker 1: him just because he was pitching so well, and I
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Speaker 1: think it warmed down a little bit.
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Speaker 2: Another guy that you guys acquired, I think after we
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Speaker 2: last spoke at the Winter Means was Max Kepler, And
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Speaker 2: I'm just kind of curious. You know, he's gonna play
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Speaker 2: left field. He's never played left field before. But that
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Speaker 2: doesn't seem to be I don't know, you tell me
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Speaker 2: that doesn't seem to be too big of a deal
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Speaker 2: going from right to left. I got with his defensive capabilities,
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Speaker 2: but I guess, how do you see him fitting into
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Speaker 2: the lineup? Do you think he can hit left handed pitching?
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Speaker 2: You know, what's what's your thoughts on Max Kepler?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he has in the past, as long as we
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Speaker 1: keep him healthy. You know, he's another guy he's had
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Speaker 1: some knee issues in the past. He had kind of
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Speaker 1: some some mid section issues last year, which which kind
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Speaker 1: of hindered him and I think it affected his numbers.
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Speaker 1: We'll see what he does in spring training, but he's
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Speaker 1: healthy right now. Klong's hitting with him right now in
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Speaker 1: Arizona and says he looks great. But you know, this
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Speaker 1: guy's put up some pretty good numbers in Minnesota when
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Speaker 1: he's healthy, so and I trust our training stuff. I
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Speaker 1: think we have the best training stuff in baseball. I
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Speaker 1: really do. Paul Okite and his his group. They do
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Speaker 1: a great job keeping these guys healthy and keeping them
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Speaker 1: on the field. And if we can do that, I
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Speaker 1: think we got a pretty good player on bounce back here.
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Speaker 4: So one are the players I think is one of
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Speaker 4: the biggest keys to the depth of your lineup and
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Speaker 4: for your decision making is Bryson Stott. I know he
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Speaker 4: had sort of a blip in his screen as far
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Speaker 4: as his overall growth.
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Speaker 1: I saw him kind of going this way.
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Speaker 4: I know he had some elbow issues that you talked
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Speaker 4: about earlier in the offseason.
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Speaker 5: What are your expectations of him? I have great expectations
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Speaker 5: of him. I think he's going to be I think
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Speaker 5: he's a really good ballplayer. I think he's got a
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Speaker 5: chance to be a great ballplayer.
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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? I agree with you one hundred percent,
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Speaker 1: and I think he's He's another guy that if he
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Speaker 1: stays healthy, he's going to be a He's going to
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Speaker 1: chew up pitches, get on bass steel base is, you know,
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Speaker 1: just be that little rat you know in the middle
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Speaker 1: towards the end of your lineup. That is going to
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Speaker 1: help turn it over great defender, He's going to use
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Speaker 1: the field, I think. I think the elbow really affects
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Speaker 1: at his swing last year. So I'm expecting a much
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Speaker 1: better year out of him this year, and I'm expecting
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Speaker 1: Marsh to get better as well. You know, Marsh at
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Speaker 1: the the last couple of months was really good and
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Speaker 1: really good against left hand and pitching too. The overall
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Speaker 1: numbers from the over the year didn't look as good,
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Speaker 1: but if you break it down to the last couple
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Speaker 1: of months he was. He was really good using the
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Speaker 1: entire field and staying lo to left and high to right.
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Speaker 1: And when he does that, hees a good player.
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Speaker 2: Do you have any you at the winter meetings. I
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Speaker 2: think after the off season in October you had talked
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Speaker 2: about it you're opening maybe changing the line if you
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Speaker 2: have any clearer picture on that, I'm not asking it
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Speaker 2: to name you're opening day lineup, but had any conversations
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Speaker 2: with any players swore Bury any of those.
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Speaker 1: Guys about a couple of conversations. But I think we'll
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Speaker 1: play with it during spring training and see where it goes,
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Speaker 1: and you know, see what the best fit for us
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Speaker 1: is and and maybe it's a situation where we're facing
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Speaker 1: a lefty we do want thing. We're facing a writy,
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Speaker 1: we do another thing. Maybe it's moving Shob behind Harper
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Speaker 1: to protect Harbor more, which maybe that moves Harper up
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Speaker 1: in the lineup a little bit, not lead off, but
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Speaker 1: maybe two. But those are conversations I've got to have
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Speaker 1: with guys. And you know, we'll do the best thing
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Speaker 1: we can and keep people comfortable, but at the same time,
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Speaker 1: put the best lineup out there to score runs. And
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Speaker 1: I tell people all the time, don't forget now we
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Speaker 1: were top five in almost every major category offensively, so
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Speaker 1: let's let's not try and outthink this thing. Are you so?
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Speaker 2: I've heard a couple managers say this. I know analytics
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Speaker 2: people have said this. I want to get your opinion
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Speaker 2: on it. I've been told that, you know, you guys
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Speaker 2: will run simulations of different lineups over a course of
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Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty two game season, and from one
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Speaker 2: lineup to the next might be a difference of four
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Speaker 2: runs over the course of a year. Do you believe that,
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Speaker 2: I mean in the sense of it really doesn't make
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Speaker 2: this huge seismic difference in between offensive production. What's your
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Speaker 2: take on, you know, a tweak to a line up
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Speaker 2: making a massive, massive difference or is it Are you
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Speaker 2: more in the mindset of this guy's really comfortable here,
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Speaker 2: this guy's really comfortable here, that that that makes maybe
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Speaker 2: makes more of a difference than that three run difference
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Speaker 2: over the course of a season.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I certainly take the heartbeat of the player into account.
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Speaker 1: I do believe in the numbers, I truly do. But
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Speaker 1: but I think you have to keep people comfortable. I
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Speaker 1: think you have to make sure you keep the confidence
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Speaker 1: in players, you know, live with it for a while
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Speaker 1: if they're struggling, because you never know when they're going
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Speaker 1: to come out of it. You know, at the start
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Speaker 1: of the season last year, you know, Nick Castianos was
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Speaker 1: really struggling, and kept running him out there. He played
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Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty and he was one of our
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Speaker 1: biggest bats at the end. So you know, you got
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Speaker 1: to trust those guys, especially those experience guys.
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Speaker 4: Speaking of Nick, are you go as the goal to
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Speaker 4: have one hundred and sixty two out of Nick this
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Speaker 4: year or is he back him off a little?
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Speaker 1: I hope so, you know, I talked to him the
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Speaker 1: other day he's in great shape. He's he's got he's
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Speaker 1: hired a movement guy, and he's he's doing a lot
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Speaker 1: of work down there in Miami and he feels great.
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Speaker 1: So jeez, I hope everybody plays one hundred and sixty two,
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Speaker 1: but as we know it, that's probably not going to happen.
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Speaker 3: Rob. If you were to tinker with leadoff, who would
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Speaker 3: be your candidates to hit there?
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Speaker 1: I think you're probably talking about Trey.
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Speaker 3: Because you mentioned Stott, see him being that guy? Yeah,
18:46
Speaker 3: in fact, so Stott wouldn't be a candidate.
18:48
Speaker 1: Well, the thing is is that you know we're so
18:51
Speaker 1: left handed, and you want Harper and you want Schwarber
18:56
Speaker 1: getting as many at bats as you can, and now
19:00
Speaker 1: put start in the leadoff spot. Now you're really left
19:02
Speaker 1: handed at the top, and it creates they might create
19:07
Speaker 1: a problem even if you're facing the right hand or
19:09
Speaker 1: they start you know, everybody's got three lefties in the pen,
19:13
Speaker 1: it seems anymore, and you know they'll just start matching
19:16
Speaker 1: up on it. How do you feel about that?
19:18
Speaker 4: Because you see that the you know Atlanta and New
19:20
Speaker 4: York they're loading up on the lefties and they know
19:23
Speaker 4: that you know, you're a lot of your strength and
19:25
Speaker 4: power is from the left side.
19:26
Speaker 5: Do you think that's calculated and they're doing that to
19:30
Speaker 5: try to combat you guys, or do you think they're
19:32
Speaker 5: just trying to.
19:32
Speaker 4: Make their teams better because it seems like they're they're
19:35
Speaker 4: targeting the Phillies.
19:36
Speaker 1: Well, I think I think in this division there's a
19:39
Speaker 1: lot of good left handed hitters, you know now, especially
19:43
Speaker 1: with Soto coming into the division. So you know, I
19:45
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's maybe a little bit tired
19:50
Speaker 1: at us, but I think it's you know, division wide,
19:53
Speaker 1: is really why all these teams are loading up on lofties?
19:57
Speaker 2: Kind of another big, big picture question to follow the
20:00
Speaker 2: Dodgers every every week they signed. Yeah, I think just
20:05
Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks have been like Sasaki, Tanner, Scott,
20:09
Speaker 2: you know, Kirby, Ye.
20:10
Speaker 1: You're gonna have a thirty man roster.
20:13
Speaker 2: Okay, that's so rob Like just running into people, friends
20:19
Speaker 2: and whatnot. They ask a lot about the Dodgers, and
20:23
Speaker 2: the question I get is, man, how are the Phillies
20:25
Speaker 2: going to compete with the Dodgers when they're just loading
20:27
Speaker 2: up on all these guys, and as the competitor, you know,
20:31
Speaker 2: what's what's your feeling on what the Dodgers have done
20:34
Speaker 2: this season, and you guys are right there with them
20:36
Speaker 2: regular season wise, what do you think.
20:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, they've done nothing illegal, So how they
20:43
Speaker 1: spend their money is how they spend their money. You
20:45
Speaker 1: can't do anything about it. You can't control that. But
20:48
Speaker 1: all you can control is what you do, and you
20:50
Speaker 1: just go out and compete. This is major League Baseball.
20:54
Speaker 1: They're all big leaguers and we got a really good club.
20:56
Speaker 1: They can only play nine guys, that's all they canna do,
21:00
Speaker 1: and they can only start one pitcher every night. And
21:03
Speaker 1: we've got a really good rotation. We've got a really
21:05
Speaker 1: good lineup, we've got a really good bullpen, so we'll
21:09
Speaker 1: match up finally.
21:10
Speaker 7: Yeah, speaking of the bullpen, are you considering going with
21:14
Speaker 7: just one one closer there at the end at some
21:17
Speaker 7: point and letting somebody emerge or you're gonna got to
21:20
Speaker 7: go with the same sort of formula be gone with
21:22
Speaker 7: the last few years.
21:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like probably the same formula unless somebody
21:26
Speaker 1: really steps up and looks like, okay, you can take
21:28
Speaker 1: down the ninth. We have enough left handed opportunities and
21:34
Speaker 1: right handed options to fill the from the sixth to
21:38
Speaker 1: the eighth and this guy can get both left and
21:41
Speaker 1: right handers out and go with it. But we've had
21:43
Speaker 1: a lot of success with the way we've handled the
21:46
Speaker 1: bullpen in the last couple of years. So to start
21:50
Speaker 1: the season especially, I think we'll go, you know, bullpen
21:55
Speaker 1: by closer by committee, if however you want to call that.
21:58
Speaker 1: Just play the pockets and play the innings accordingly.
22:04
Speaker 3: What's your first conversation, you know, next week or the
22:08
Speaker 3: next few days with Alec bom going to be like
22:11
Speaker 3: or possibly I guess you've been talking to them all along.
22:14
Speaker 1: He's been.
22:16
Speaker 3: In terms of a hard event. It hasn't been an
22:18
Speaker 3: eventful winter, but it has been an eventful winter, if
22:21
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
22:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, when all the rumors started, you know, the trade rumors,
22:25
Speaker 1: I called Alec and I said, you know, because this
22:28
Speaker 1: is really the first time he's gone through this, And
22:31
Speaker 1: I told him, look, you know, we're not looking to
22:34
Speaker 1: move you. The only reason your name keeps coming up
22:37
Speaker 1: is because you're a really good player and other teams
22:39
Speaker 1: have interests. So if people are talking about trades, we
22:44
Speaker 1: have to listen and figure out what we need to do.
22:48
Speaker 1: But this guy's a really good player, he really is.
22:51
Speaker 1: And you know, he gets a little bit emotional at times,
22:54
Speaker 1: and he's got to be able to rain that in
22:57
Speaker 1: at times so that he can stay focused. Because if
23:00
Speaker 1: he does that, I think this guy's got a chance
23:03
Speaker 1: to be a perennial All Star because he can really hit,
23:07
Speaker 1: and he's the type of guy that we're looking for,
23:09
Speaker 1: a guy that is going to be able to use
23:11
Speaker 1: the field and hit right handers, hit left handers, hit velocity,
23:16
Speaker 1: and and his defense has come so far. It's it's
23:21
Speaker 1: it's incredible the amount of development he's made at the
23:25
Speaker 1: major league level, especially defensively. Rob you're a great communicator.
23:29
Speaker 4: I know that it's something that's that that that you've
23:31
Speaker 4: been doing since, you know, starting your your coaching and
23:34
Speaker 4: managing career in the minor leagues. Tell me about how
23:39
Speaker 4: you approach him and how kind of discussions. I don't
23:42
Speaker 4: I don't want you to say anything that's you know
23:45
Speaker 4: that that's private. But how how does those discussions start
23:50
Speaker 4: with him as far as dealing with his overall emotions.
23:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's I think it's trying to stay
23:57
Speaker 1: positive with him in the fact that just what I
24:00
Speaker 1: said if you can really you know, everybody gets a
24:04
Speaker 1: little bit emotional, but it's it's how you handle it,
24:07
Speaker 1: how you show it, how you react from it. Just
24:11
Speaker 1: make sure that he stays focused, because if he stays focused,
24:15
Speaker 1: you're going to be a great player. You're going to
24:17
Speaker 1: be a perennial All Star. You're going to hit three
24:20
Speaker 1: twenty with thirty and one hundred and twenty because you're
24:23
Speaker 1: hitting right in the middle of our lineup. You're going
24:25
Speaker 1: to do that every year. But don't give it bats away,
24:31
Speaker 1: don't give up defensive plays away. And that's for everybody,
24:35
Speaker 1: not just for Alec. I mean we got we got
24:37
Speaker 1: a lot of guys that get emotional, But you know,
24:40
Speaker 1: how do you react from that? How do you get
24:42
Speaker 1: you know, what's the what's the next pitch look like?
24:45
Speaker 1: What does the next play look like? You can't be
24:48
Speaker 1: thinking about what's happening that's gone. You got to think
24:50
Speaker 1: about what's going on right now and keep moving forward.
24:55
Speaker 2: Rob, what are your reports on Johann Rojas or what
24:58
Speaker 2: were they down and on a winter ball? Because I
25:01
Speaker 2: see the numbers really good. You seem really good, I know,
25:05
Speaker 2: and won a gold glove, But what does that mean?
25:07
Speaker 2: Does that mean anything, I mean what you tell me.
25:09
Speaker 1: It does to me. I mean just looking at the tape,
25:11
Speaker 1: because you know you can we get all as at
25:14
Speaker 1: bats and he's really simplified as approach. There's less head movement,
25:19
Speaker 1: there's less movement in his his takeaway or his load
25:23
Speaker 1: or whatever you want to call it. So it's it's
25:26
Speaker 1: keeping him still and keeping him under control so that
25:31
Speaker 1: the swing is more controlled. He's using the field a
25:35
Speaker 1: little bit more, he's bunning, he's doing all the things
25:38
Speaker 1: that we want him to do. So it'll be it'll
25:40
Speaker 1: be interesting to see him come into spring training and
25:43
Speaker 1: and see how it translates, you know, on the major
25:47
Speaker 1: league side. But that's that's pretty good leg he's playing it,
25:49
Speaker 1: so you know, it's it's not like he's playing in
25:53
Speaker 1: some a ball league. This is professional baseball over there,
25:57
Speaker 1: and they take it pretty seriously. So I'm proud of them.
25:59
Speaker 1: I'm I'm happy with the progress he's making. Well.
26:03
Speaker 3: Back in October, you talked about one of the ways
26:07
Speaker 3: to reduce some chase, would you know, stand on the
26:11
Speaker 3: ball longer, use the entire field. I would think, you know,
26:16
Speaker 3: one of those guys might be Tray Turner. I mean,
26:18
Speaker 3: will that be a focus in spring training for him
26:22
Speaker 3: and for for others?
26:24
Speaker 1: I think for everybody. Yeah, you know, we really have
26:27
Speaker 1: to be able to do that because that's how pitchers
26:30
Speaker 1: are attacking us and you get to the guys that
26:34
Speaker 1: the better pitchers in the league, and if they're attacking
26:39
Speaker 1: your chase rates, if you will, it's harder, it's harder
26:44
Speaker 1: to hold up because it's better stuff. So yeah, it'll
26:48
Speaker 1: be a focus for everybody. You know, make sure that
26:51
Speaker 1: you stay on the base, don't try to do too
26:54
Speaker 1: much passive aton. Trust the next guy. If they walk it,
26:58
Speaker 1: they walk it, go to first place. The next guy
27:01
Speaker 1: is gonna gonna pick us up. And if we do that,
27:04
Speaker 1: we're we're going to put up big numbers. Rob.
27:08
Speaker 4: There's a there's always an excitement when when the calendar
27:11
Speaker 4: flips and you get closer and closer to just bring
27:13
Speaker 4: training are there, and I'm sure you're excited about getting
27:16
Speaker 4: the boys together, any players that you have been thinking
27:21
Speaker 4: about like that, you really excited about seeing guys that
27:24
Speaker 4: you really haven't putting your eyes on, and and people
27:27
Speaker 4: that might be dark horses.
27:29
Speaker 1: As far as making the roster, I know.
27:30
Speaker 4: It's pretty fairly set roster is probably a couple of
27:33
Speaker 4: pieces at the end of the bench and the and
27:35
Speaker 4: the bullpen that have to get squared away. But anybody
27:38
Speaker 4: in particular, like matchups or people that you want to
27:41
Speaker 4: see coming.
27:42
Speaker 1: Forward, well, you know, I always think of myself as
27:45
Speaker 1: a development guy because I spent so many years coaching
27:48
Speaker 1: the minor league. So I'm really excited to see our
27:51
Speaker 1: young kids come here, not that they're going to make
27:54
Speaker 1: the club, but just to get this experience. And I
27:57
Speaker 1: want to see them play. I want to see their talents.
28:00
Speaker 1: The Adian Millers and the Crawfords and those types of
28:03
Speaker 1: guys come in here and see what they got because
28:07
Speaker 1: I've heard so many great things about them, you know,
28:09
Speaker 1: watching tape and reading reports. It's just it's just exciting.
28:13
Speaker 1: And I can't wait to see him. I really can't.
28:16
Speaker 1: And plus the new guys that we've acquired that are
28:19
Speaker 1: on our big league club, you know, Jordan Romano and
28:23
Speaker 1: Joe Ross and Kepler and Wizardo. I'm excited to see
28:27
Speaker 1: them and get to know them and see what they're
28:29
Speaker 1: all about. And because I think they're going to really
28:33
Speaker 1: fit here. And if we keep all those guys healthy,
28:35
Speaker 1: I think they're going to really contribute.
28:38
Speaker 3: Have you spoken to j T about possibly trimming back
28:41
Speaker 3: a little bit just to enhance performance you know later on.
28:44
Speaker 1: No, I'm afraid of that conversation. So former wrestler, watch out, Donald.
28:55
Speaker 1: I'm going to talk to him a little bit, you know.
28:57
Speaker 1: And hey, doesn't mean he can't d H and get
29:01
Speaker 1: his at bats and keep him off his feet. And
29:03
Speaker 1: you know that might mean that shore basketba out to
29:06
Speaker 1: the left field every once in a while or however,
29:08
Speaker 1: we you know, work work around that. But he's going
29:12
Speaker 1: to get as a bats and and you know, he's
29:14
Speaker 1: in great shape right now. I haven't seen him yet.
29:17
Speaker 1: He was here yesterday, but I came in after he left.
29:19
Speaker 1: But I'll see him today. And you know, I know
29:23
Speaker 1: it's a contract year for him, so that's a big deal.
29:26
Speaker 1: And and he's a prideful guy. I mean, he wants
29:28
Speaker 1: to play every day, just like a lot of our
29:30
Speaker 1: guys are. And that's what I love about him.
29:33
Speaker 3: It's also a contract year for a contract year for
29:36
Speaker 3: schwar Does that impact how you deploy him in the lineup?
29:43
Speaker 1: Not as far as his bats or as far as
29:47
Speaker 1: where I put him in the lineup where.
29:49
Speaker 3: You put him, because that's I think.
29:53
Speaker 1: I think he'll get as at bats, you know, because
29:55
Speaker 1: he for the most part, he stayed pretty healthy at
29:58
Speaker 1: the hamstring last year, but he came back from a
30:01
Speaker 1: pretty quick but he's going to get us a bat.
30:03
Speaker 1: So I think where you put him in the lineup
30:07
Speaker 1: is based on what's best for the ball club.
30:12
Speaker 2: Rob I've been getting the itched to get down to
30:15
Speaker 2: clear Water, And what really kind of got me going was,
30:18
Speaker 2: I know it's been out for a while, but I
30:19
Speaker 2: watched the Netflix documentary and the four Red Sox, and
30:23
Speaker 2: I know your organization was on the other end of that,
30:25
Speaker 2: so but there there was a part in the documentary
30:29
Speaker 2: where Red Sox weren't playing well or they were losing.
30:32
Speaker 2: There some clubhouse turmoil, and and Terry Francona said, you know,
30:37
Speaker 2: I believe that the players take so many mental cues
30:42
Speaker 2: from how the manager is acting and how the coach
30:44
Speaker 2: is reacting, so we had to kind of stay flat
30:46
Speaker 2: lined and not show panic. And I'm I feel like
30:49
Speaker 2: you're you believe the same thing. And there's one and
30:51
Speaker 2: what's your philosophy on that in terms of how your
30:54
Speaker 2: demeanor can affect a clubhouse, and how do you go
30:57
Speaker 2: about that? So you show or see but you don't
31:00
Speaker 2: show panic And what's the fine line there? And I'm
31:03
Speaker 2: just curious about that. When when Terry Frank Frankcotas said that,
31:06
Speaker 2: immediately wanted to ask you that question.
31:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, I truly believe that you can't let your players
31:12
Speaker 1: see us what you really can't. You've got to keep
31:16
Speaker 1: your chin up and your chest out and keep moving forward.
31:19
Speaker 1: And whatever anxieties you have, and everybody has them, you
31:24
Speaker 1: eat it and you don't show it because it will
31:28
Speaker 1: it will transfer into the group at some point. But
31:33
Speaker 1: you know there's case by case. And you know, people
31:37
Speaker 1: don't think that I talk to the players or that
31:39
Speaker 1: I don't get on the players, but they don't see
31:42
Speaker 1: what goes on behind closed doors, and so there's there's
31:45
Speaker 1: a lot more conversations than people see. But in the moment,
31:49
Speaker 1: I think you have to stay under control players, coaches, manager,
31:55
Speaker 1: You have to stay focused, and you have to understand
31:59
Speaker 1: that you can only control you can control and that's it,
32:03
Speaker 1: and then figure out the the the issue later and
32:09
Speaker 1: and correct it. So I try to stay calm and
32:14
Speaker 1: don't show much emotion at all.
32:16
Speaker 4: Rob you've done a lot, a lot of things in
32:19
Speaker 4: the game. Started off in the minor leagues, ran minor
32:22
Speaker 4: league system, did did a whole bunch of stuff, bench coach.
32:25
Speaker 4: I'm sure during that process you probably thought about at
32:29
Speaker 4: some point being a major league manager. And I'm just curious,
32:34
Speaker 4: how does it feel to be, you know, in this
32:37
Speaker 4: position over the last several years.
32:39
Speaker 1: I mean, you've you've gotten here.
32:40
Speaker 5: You've you know, you've been into the World Series.
32:44
Speaker 1: Do you pinch yourself sometimes?
32:45
Speaker 5: Because I remember doing going through it myself, getting to
32:48
Speaker 5: the to the pinnacle of being a GM.
32:51
Speaker 1: Do you think about that a lot? And do you
32:54
Speaker 1: And how does it make you feel when you put
32:56
Speaker 1: that uniform on? Yes? I do pinch myself every day,
33:00
Speaker 1: I really do. And to think of what's happened in
33:05
Speaker 1: the last three years and leading up to that. It's
33:08
Speaker 1: just in the opportunity that Dave and John and the
33:12
Speaker 1: front office has given me here too, to be able
33:15
Speaker 1: to lead a group of really great players and great people.
33:22
Speaker 1: I just I couldn't be in a better place, and
33:26
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to be anywhere else. I really wouldn't,
33:30
Speaker 1: you know. And I remember walking out of Dave's apartment
33:34
Speaker 1: when we agreed, and I'm walking down the street and
33:37
Speaker 1: there's in downtown Philadelphia and there's hundreds of people walking
33:41
Speaker 1: by me and nobody knows who I am, and I'm
33:45
Speaker 1: and I thought at the moment, I thought, this is
33:49
Speaker 1: this is going to change. It's going to change my life.
33:52
Speaker 1: It's and it has. It really has, and and even
33:55
Speaker 1: more than I ever plought in a good way too,
33:58
Speaker 1: because I get to meet people. Well, Like last night,
34:00
Speaker 1: I went down to one of my favorite chicken wing
34:04
Speaker 1: place places down here in clear Water to get some
34:07
Speaker 1: food and I'm walking out and there's six guys from
34:11
Speaker 1: Philly standing out front. They're here for a hockey tournament
34:15
Speaker 1: with the junior Flyers. They're called oh yeah, big hockey
34:19
Speaker 1: tournament going on here, and I goes Toper and I
34:25
Speaker 1: so I sat and talked to them for time or
34:27
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. They're great guys, you know, they're just there
34:30
Speaker 1: with their kids. And so those are the things that
34:35
Speaker 1: I like. I mean, you know, you take a bunch
34:38
Speaker 1: of stuff when you're losing, and that's all part of it.
34:42
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of really great things about it too,
34:44
Speaker 1: and a lot of great people in Philadelphia that have
34:48
Speaker 1: treated me very well. So yes, I pinched myself every
34:52
Speaker 1: day and I love it.
34:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of quite a lifestyle change to go
34:57
Speaker 2: from relative anonymity like you said too. Now you walk
35:00
Speaker 2: down the street in Philly or you go into a
35:02
Speaker 2: restaurant and it's like Norman Cheers walking in. Probably probably
35:09
Speaker 2: get a.
35:09
Speaker 3: Few beers paid for it too.
35:11
Speaker 1: That's not bad either.
35:12
Speaker 3: You know, anyone recognize you in Ireland?
35:17
Speaker 1: No? In fact, you know I saw it was funny
35:20
Speaker 1: because we went to tour Guinness and that was like
35:26
Speaker 1: the second or third last day we were there, and
35:30
Speaker 1: somebody had a Yankee hat on and it was the
35:32
Speaker 1: first time I'd seen anything from about sports from the
35:37
Speaker 1: United States, whether it's football, basketball, baseball, hockey, everything else
35:42
Speaker 1: was kind of you know, soccer or rugby or hurling
35:46
Speaker 1: related in Ireland. So it was it was fascinating that
35:51
Speaker 1: there was my lights are going out here because there's
35:53
Speaker 1: no movement in the room there, you got your commuter nicely.
36:01
Speaker 1: It was fascinating, you know, there was there was no
36:03
Speaker 1: American sports represented over there, so how was.
36:08
Speaker 2: The Guinness there? Did you drink in us here?
36:10
Speaker 1: And it was actually I do know. Actually it's the
36:14
Speaker 1: first guinness I've ever had. Was there? It was? It
36:17
Speaker 1: was really good, Yeah, it.
36:19
Speaker 4: Was it was it room temperature or was it it
36:23
Speaker 4: was chilled?
36:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I've never had it because it just seems
36:29
Speaker 1: like I'm I'd be drinking a chocolate milkshake, so I
36:35
Speaker 1: stayed away from it. But it was. It was actually
36:37
Speaker 1: very light over there.
36:39
Speaker 2: That's awesome. Well, Rob, we're looking forward to getting down there,
36:43
Speaker 2: you know, man, I mean you were You've been up
36:45
Speaker 2: in Canada for most of the off seasons, so, I mean,
36:48
Speaker 2: it's cold here, it's cloudy here.
36:51
Speaker 1: It's good.
36:52
Speaker 2: We're imagining the sunshine and the warmth.
36:54
Speaker 1: We've got about two and a half feet of snow
36:57
Speaker 1: in Stratford, Ontario, is right. We're right in the lake effect.
37:02
Speaker 1: We got a lot of lake effects now, so we're
37:04
Speaker 1: in the middle of lake here on Erie and and
37:08
Speaker 1: in Ontario. So it doesn't matter which way the wind blows.
37:11
Speaker 1: If it's snowing, we're we're gonna get getting out.
37:16
Speaker 2: You got a snowblower.
37:17
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you got it.
37:19
Speaker 2: Up there, right.
37:20
Speaker 1: You're not sure so you didn't get so you get
37:21
Speaker 1: into the pool. You didn't get into that.
37:23
Speaker 2: Pool at all.
37:23
Speaker 1: No, I couldn't. You can't even tell.
37:25
Speaker 3: We got a pool right now when you drive it,
37:29
Speaker 3: when you drive across the border. Does the do the
37:32
Speaker 3: agents ever engage any baseball talk?
37:36
Speaker 1: Yeah? Sometimes, because every year when I first go to
37:39
Speaker 1: spring training, I have to check in. They I have
37:42
Speaker 1: to pull over and go in the office and renew
37:44
Speaker 1: my work vison and I've been in there so many times,
37:48
Speaker 1: it's been forty years. So I went. I went in
37:50
Speaker 1: the same place. I try to cross the same border,
37:53
Speaker 1: crossing all the time. That way, it's just consistent. And
37:56
Speaker 1: they get to meet the you know, the people, and
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Speaker 1: so they know them now and yeah, you know, but
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Speaker 1: they're Tiger fans. R. You grew up a Tigers fans.
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Speaker 2: You have a lot to talk about. That's awesome. We again, Rob,
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Speaker 2: thanks thanks so much for coming on. We really appreciate it,
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Speaker 2: and we will we will see you a couple of
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Speaker 2: weeks that we're looking forward to the upcoming season.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great down here. I can't tell you how
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Speaker 1: after the hurricane, the work that the people in Clearwater
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Speaker 1: have done here, I mean, it looks almost normal. And
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Speaker 1: I just I was driving down the strip last night
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Speaker 1: and just checking it out, and it was. I know
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that still are having problems,
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Speaker 1: and but the downtown area and clear Waters they've done
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Speaker 1: a great job. Look forward to.
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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for coming on, Rob. That was great.
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