Latest / Aspergers & Autism Podcast [The Aspie World] AuDHD / Asperger & WW2 (In-depth Truth)
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- 0:00You have arrived. Welcome to the Aspy world.
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- 0:11spectrum, your autism ambassador, Daniel Morgan Jones.
- 0:19OK, so what's hands Asperger and RT?
- 0:22Can we still say Asperger syndrome?
- 0:24What is going on? What's the truth behind
- 0:26everything? And and I'm here to unravel the
- 0:28whole things, so don't go anywhere.
- 0:30Hey guys, it's just a note before we get started with this
- 0:32video. This is all on our Hansas budget
- 0:35and the potential of his collusion with the Nazi era
- 0:39Germany in Vienna. And I just want to say that I do
- 0:42talk about certain things that are in the document that may be
- 0:44sensitive to some of you. So if you are not comfortable
- 0:46watching an understanding to spot Second World War and stuff
- 0:49like that, please turn away, turn this off right now.
- 0:52And I mean, you know, how about this video?
- 0:54It's literally just an analysis of a report.
- 0:56So let's get into it, OK? Hey guys, welcome back to the
- 0:59Aspy world. If anybody knows me, they're an
- 1:01awesome advocate. I have autism and ADHD myself.
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- 1:10OK? So before I get into this, I
- 1:12want to be completely clear. I am in no way shape or form
- 1:16advocating for any racial hatred or anything like that that's all
- 1:19to do with Asperger or anything like that.
- 1:21I'm just literally talking about the documents and stuff that
- 1:24came out about it, and I'll get into why that is or potentially
- 1:27an issue right now. So back in the 1980s, a woman
- 1:30called Lorna Wing, who was an autism researcher, coined the
- 1:33term Asperger syndrome to characterize certain autistic
- 1:37individuals who had more lower support needs, right?
- 1:40Or used to be called high functioning.
- 1:42They kind of don't use those labels anymore because people
- 1:43felt quite offended by those things.
- 1:45And people generally just want to make people feel good and
- 1:48happy about themselves. So they didn't carry on using
- 1:49those terms. So be it.
- 1:50Asperger syndrome was the term. Now this was named after
- 1:54research in papers that had been published by a guy called Hans
- 1:57Asperger. Now Hans Asperger was a guy who
- 2:00was from Vienna. And so he lived in Austria for
- 2:05many, many years, obviously born and raised there, but he worked
- 2:07in Austria during the Nazi takeover or the Nazi era
- 2:11takeover of Austria during the Second World War.
- 2:14So this is kind of he's, he's a clinical psychologist or a
- 2:18doctor of clinical psychology working in this field.
- 2:21And he was, you know, doing a lot of stuff with the, you know,
- 2:24autism research. He actually was one of the
- 2:26founding people to really put research in a lot of research
- 2:30into autism and that kind of stuff.
- 2:31And we know this because it's documented in people's books,
- 2:34like Steve Silverman, who documents Hans Asperger's
- 2:37research. And it was, you know, key to
- 2:39understanding autism and, and and the the idea of clinical
- 2:43psychology related to autism. Now, how's Asperger have a lot
- 2:46of haters. They had loads of people who
- 2:48were not massive fans of him anyway.
- 2:51But Needless to say, this is where the name Asperger syndrome
- 2:54came from. Now in 2013, the DSM and then
- 2:58again until 19, the IDC, which is these two ways of clinically
- 3:02diagnosing neurological disorders, mental health
- 3:04disorders. They took the term Asperger
- 3:07syndrome out of this system of diagnosis for autism because
- 3:11they felt like people who were diagnosed with Asperger syndrome
- 3:14sometimes, especially in America, weren't legally seen as
- 3:17being autistic. You know, to the point of saying
- 3:20the term autistic on their diagnostic paper.
- 3:22Because that would then also give them a bad time trying to
- 3:26access support and help for autism.
- 3:28Even though Asperger's syndrome was part of the autism spectrum
- 3:30result. They were kept out of that
- 3:33because the term wasn't completely just autism.
- 3:37So they said, well, why don't we just put all the terms together
- 3:39and say autism spectrum disorder.
- 3:41So it became from Aspergers, the the diagnosis nomenclature
- 3:45became ASD. Now this, you know, doesn't wipe
- 3:48out the fact that you have hundreds and thousands of people
- 3:50who are diagnosed with Aspergers, including myself.
- 3:52I was diagnosed with Aspergers syndrome in 2013, just before
- 3:55the DSM change. Now because of that, people
- 3:59stopped using the term Asperger syndrome.
- 4:01Literally that's all it was. That's the only reason people
- 4:04stopped using the term Asperger syndrome.
- 4:06Now in 2018 came AI think it was like a four year or eight-year
- 4:10study. We're studying texts and
- 4:12journals from the archives of and Asperger and the kind of
- 4:17occupation of Vienna from the Nazi era when the Nazis kind of
- 4:20took over Vienna. Because what happened is
- 4:22obviously Austria border in Germany and its share of common
- 4:24heritage, Germany kind of just kind of obtained Austria because
- 4:28I don't think Austria have in the army at the time.
- 4:29So they just kind of walked in there.
- 4:30Now this is back in wartime. So it's a very difficult
- 4:33situation to be in. It all starts with this report.
- 4:36Now I have this article, this report, this paper, whatever you
- 4:39want to call that's published. I have it linked down below so
- 4:41you can check out for yourself. But I just want to go through
- 4:42some of the stuff I'm going to pop on screen here, the bits I'm
- 4:45reading out. So it says This is why the
- 4:47question came around. Limits of education,
- 4:50educability, Asperger and the Spear learned euthanasia
- 4:56facility. Now this is quite interesting to
- 4:58know in his wartime publications, Aswajit appears as
- 5:01someone who declares his willingness to cooperate with
- 5:04the Nazi state propagated, albeit less enthusiastically
- 5:08than others, elements of Nazi race hygiene and Try to argue
- 5:13that his discipline has an appropriate role.
- 5:18His discipline had an important role to play within the new
- 5:21political order. His main argument was the
- 5:23ability of Hel Paddock Gogic. I can't say those words.
- 5:29I'm dyslexic to turn troubled, difficult or abnormal children
- 5:33into useful numbers of society right.
- 5:35So this is really this is what gets really interesting.
- 5:37This paper, when it states this point, it's saying that Haandas
- 5:41Berger was able to go along with the status quo within Nazi
- 5:48occupied Vienna, meaning he told the lion or he'd be killed
- 5:52basically because anyone who opposed the national regime, we
- 5:55know what happened to them. But it also says here that he
- 5:57was opposed to it. He was not kind of for anything
- 6:00he actually said here. And this is what this article
- 6:02part says. It says that he argued that his
- 6:05discipline, you know, his degree in his doctor gave him the
- 6:09ability to say, Hey, you know, we can't euthanize, which is
- 6:11basically, you know, kill innocent people.
- 6:14We can't euthanise these kids. We can actually, you know,
- 6:17rehabilitate them into society using kind of different
- 6:20techniques and, and actually supporting them, right, which is
- 6:23really interesting. So First off the bat, the reason
- 6:25I'm bringing this up is because there are many people on the
- 6:28Internet who say Ham's Artpedule was a Nazi.
- 6:30That's it, right? I'm like, well, well, there's
- 6:33no, there's no real evidence that Ham's Vasi was an was a
- 6:36Nazi. And one of the things that we
- 6:37can we can pick out from this just straight off the bat was
- 6:41Hans Asperger was never part of the Nazi party.
- 6:43He never signed to the Nazi party.
- 6:45He was part of socialism groups or socialist groups within Nazi
- 6:51occupied Vienna. None of them were actual Nazis.
- 6:54And you can remember, you know, in 1940s, nineteen 30s, when the
- 6:58Nazis were occupying Germany, everybody was a socialist in
- 7:01some way in terms of because the Nazis weren't really socialists.
- 7:04Even the Nazis were kind of totalitarian.
- 7:06But in the terms of socialism, Nazi means Socialist Party of
- 7:10Jimmy, Nazi party of Jimmy. But everybody was because you
- 7:13had this Great Depression that we were recovering from.
- 7:16And so Hans Asperger was for a lot of the social policies kind
- 7:20of like, you know, we have National Health Service here in
- 7:22the UK. We have, you know, army and
- 7:25police force and public libraries and public schools.
- 7:27They're all socialist ideologies.
- 7:29So to be part of socialism was not a bad thing, and it never
- 7:33really has been a bad thing. It's just when Nazis overrode
- 7:36the idea of being a socialist and turn into totalitarianism,
- 7:40then it became a problem of fascism as it was later kind of
- 7:43coined in Germany at the time. So there's another article
- 7:46that's really interesting. Marina Asperger Felder published
- 7:49a nuanced portrait of her father Sanchez of a Felder not shying
- 7:53away from his possible involvement in National
- 7:55Socialism. However, adding significant new
- 7:58fact citing Shriver. Daniel Conzila in the 2009's
- 8:03paper on 13 neurological eponyms associated associated with the
- 8:09Nazi era included Asperger along with the physicians with
- 8:13unbelievable roles because he had been accused on uncertain
- 8:18grounds of harbouring sympathy for Nazi politics, while he had
- 8:21also cautiously defended mentally disabled children.
- 8:25Now this is interesting. What they're saying there is
- 8:27that Hamdaspurger was saying that he sympathised with
- 8:30sympathised, a very interesting word to use.
- 8:31He was tone the line. He, he wasn't opposing the Nazi
- 8:35takeover of his hospital and all that kind of stuff.
- 8:37There's not much he could do anyway.
- 8:38But then they say, oh, he also did defend mentally disabled
- 8:41children. Now, what Hamdaspurger was noted
- 8:43for, and Steve Steubman says in his book Neurotripes,
- 8:45Hamdaspurger was actually a humanitarian and he was the guy.
- 8:49He was saying that, you know, these disabled children
- 8:52shouldn't be euthanized. I mean, this guy was advocating
- 8:54against it. But there's only one case where
- 8:58Asperger's name appears on any document to do with euthanasia
- 9:01and that bizarre hospital that I can't pronounce where there was
- 9:05a little girl in case, a little girl who was profoundly
- 9:08disabled. Global learning delay and all
- 9:09kinds of stuff. And this young girl was only, I
- 9:13don't know, maybe two or three years old was sent to this
- 9:15euthanasia clinic because of this racial cleansing or just
- 9:19ethnic cleansing which we were doing in Germany at the time,
- 9:21which is horrible, right? Hamsasperger worked in this
- 9:23clinic where patients came in to 1st and then the Nazis would
- 9:28take them to different places, concentration camps or
- 9:30euthanasia clinics or whatever. So Hamsasperger clinic was just
- 9:33a normal clinic, right? Just where people would go to be
- 9:35assessed. And he never once said, I want
- 9:40this person to go here. He just worked in the clinic.
- 9:42So the paper with his name on it is just literally because that's
- 9:46his clinic. He really had no say in who went
- 9:49to a gas chamber and who didn't. What he did have a say in,
- 9:52though, is his human right to say, hey, this is wrong.
- 9:55This is wrong. And actually it's recorded on
- 9:57several occasions that Hamza Berger was actually arrested by
- 10:00the Gestapo. Another Gestapo are the Secret
- 10:02Service police of the Nazis. And he was taken away on on
- 10:05several occasions because he opposed the Nazi regime.
- 10:08Now, there are two things, you know, you can oppose a Nazi
- 10:10regime until a certain point, you know, where your life gets
- 10:13threatened. And this is something to bear in
- 10:15mind. You know, everybody in Nazi
- 10:17Vienna was like, Oh my God, like, what do we do?
- 10:19You know, we have to toe the line somewhat to, to get on.
- 10:22So that's, that's worth noting. OK, here we go.
- 10:24The author qualified the affirmative references of to
- 10:27Nazi ideology and some of Asperger's papers as a
- 10:30deliberate tactic to deceive the Nazis about his true intentions,
- 10:34namely protect his patients. So Hans's budget, this is saying
- 10:37that, and this is from the article, everything I'm talking
- 10:39about was taken from this this study.
- 10:40Hans's budget actually was protecting his patients.
- 10:43He was pretending to go along with what the Nazis said in
- 10:47terms of like, you know, sign this paper, be a part of that
- 10:49kind of policy, sign this license.
- 10:51But All in all, Hans's budget was always protecting his
- 10:54patients. Who put his patients 1st every
- 10:55single time. And that's clearly documented
- 10:57and clearly stated in everything above all else.
- 11:00Another screenshot, Steve Silverman's 2015 book
- 11:02Neurotripes, written for a general audience, also pushed
- 11:06the narrative of Asperger as an Oscar shrew Shingler like
- 11:11protector of children with autism. 1 of Asperger's alleged
- 11:14alleged strategies was that he initially highlighted his most
- 11:19promising case to deflect the wrath of the Nazis.
- 11:22Which basically means that Halasperger was doing everything
- 11:25he could to stop children going to euthanasia clinics or any
- 11:29other kind of like ethnic horrible stuff going on in Nazi
- 11:32Vienna. George Frankel, a close
- 11:35collaborator of Hansas Burger, left Vienna for the United
- 11:37States in 1937, going on to work with Leo Kenner, and all is
- 11:40really interesting. Leo Kenner published works the
- 11:44same time 1942, the same time as Asperger published his work on
- 11:48on autism. Leo Kenner also published work
- 11:50on autism right in 1942. Now Leo Kenner also coined terms
- 11:55like refrigerator mothers and it was mother's fault the kids were
- 11:57autistic. But he also came it was they
- 11:59called it Kenner infantile autism and then he changed it to
- 12:01just infantile autism and then it came just autism, right.
- 12:04So Kenner was a big player in in autism and research.
- 12:08However, this article here, if we go back to the article, it
- 12:11states especially 167 to 8 to 180.
- 12:17This information reviewed earlier suspicions that Kenner
- 12:19had known about Asperger's work before his own publications on
- 12:23the topic, based on the fact that Asperger had already
- 12:26mentioned autistic psychopathy in a 1938 publication years
- 12:30before his more widely known postdoctoral thesis.
- 12:34And that the Austrian born Kenner had access to German
- 12:38language medical publications. Basically stating that Leo
- 12:41Kenner and George Frankel actually obtained information
- 12:45from Hans Berger to kind of publish it as their own.
- 12:48And if you think about this, if someone's going to try and
- 12:51publish work that's yours and then you can't say, hey, that's
- 12:53my work and you know, you are the first person to think of it,
- 12:56the best thing to do would be to smear their name.
- 12:58But just bear that in mind. We'll read and rest this.
- 13:00And I'm not defending anybody here.
- 13:01I'm just giving the true state facts and adding my opinion it
- 13:03as I go. This is a screenshot from a
- 13:07Basically it's a questionnaire from 1940.
- 13:11Asperger reportedly reported several memberships
- 13:14organisations affiliated with Nazi parties.
- 13:16He refrained, however, from joining the Nazi party itself.
- 13:20So he joined certain different kind of organisations within
- 13:23within German occupied Vienna at the time, which is notable
- 13:27because obviously it's what's going on.
- 13:29You can have to toe the line, so I'm giving you all the state and
- 13:32all the facts. Despite these associations,
- 13:34there is no indication that Asperger actively sympathized
- 13:37with the Nazi movement prior to 1938, unlike many of his
- 13:41colleagues. Rather, the evidence points to
- 13:43an umbil villain attitude potential obstacle to his
- 13:47supporting National Socialism, where his religious convictions,
- 13:51his humanist background, and his elitist cultivated habits.
- 13:55Furthermore, following the ban of the Austrian Nazi Party in
- 13:591933, the movement remained attractive only to a core of
- 14:03ideological hard supporters, whereas for mere sympathisers or
- 14:07petulists the risk of adherence for outweighing potential
- 14:11advantages. Nevertheless, Asperger recorded
- 14:14Asperger's record of organizational affiliation over
- 14:17the years prior to 1938 suggested that there was more
- 14:19common ideological ground than has previously been
- 14:22acknowledged. Asperger's political
- 14:24socialization in Newland likely blinded him to National
- 14:29Socialism's destructive character due to the affinity
- 14:32with Co ideological movements. In 1974, Ashbeji himself put in
- 14:37put it in this way. The National Socialist time
- 14:39arrived, whereupon it was clear from my previous life that one
- 14:43could well go along with many, let's say, quote UN quote
- 14:46national things, but not with the inhumane world, which is
- 14:51exactly what I'm saying. When you look at socialism, the
- 14:53Hazas Verger was part of things like, you know, wanting to feed
- 14:56people. You know, the Nazis fed 5
- 14:57million German people who were out of work during the Great
- 15:00Depression. So you can see how people would
- 15:01be attracted to helping other people, especially if you're a
- 15:03humanist, right. So this is kind of saying that,
- 15:05you know, not saying that he was directly in with all the Nazi
- 15:08stuff. Of course he wasn't.
- 15:09You know, that's what it's saying.
- 15:11So this the strongest claim to the effect that Asperger was an
- 15:15attractive opponent of the Nazis and that he had risked his life
- 15:18defending the children in his cares.
- 15:19Based on an episode reported in Adam Feinstein's book on The
- 15:23Pioneers of autism research. Allegedly, the Gestapo twice
- 15:26came to the clinic to arrest Asperger either because of his
- 15:291938 talk or because he had refused to hand over patients to
- 15:33the officials. The only no source of this claim
- 15:35comes from Asperger himself who mentioned the incidents in 1962
- 15:40and is in inauguration as the Vienna Chair of Pediatricians
- 15:44and in the above cited 1974 interview.
- 15:48It is totally inhumane as we saw with dreadful consequence when
- 15:51people accepted the concept of worthless life.
- 15:54This is Aspergers himself say this.
- 15:57He knew my attitude but protected me with his whole
- 16:00being and for that I have great respect.
- 16:02So this is the only recorded instance that anyone could find
- 16:06anywhere which Asperger publicly mentioned the Nazi euthanasia,
- 16:09despite the fact that this was such an incisive event for his
- 16:13field and its patients. According to this account, the
- 16:16Gestapo was after Asperger because he refused to report
- 16:19patients with certain deficiencies to the Vienna
- 16:22Public Health Office. So again, more evidence say that
- 16:24hams are protecting these people right now.
- 16:26There's this national document here that I'm showing you right
- 16:31on the screen now. So despite Asperges Catholic
- 16:34orientation, the Nazi Party authorities considered as would
- 16:36to be a political irreproachable and as someone who was in
- 16:40conformity with the National Socialist racial and
- 16:43sterilisation laws. Now this is really interesting.
- 16:46He had to sign this document, which is the national Socialist
- 16:49racial and sterilisation laws, which basically means that the
- 16:51Nazis are trying to sterilize people from having offspring.
- 16:54If you were like, you know, disabled or if you were a
- 16:56certain race, which is completely awful.
- 16:58But how does what he was have to sign this to practice medicine
- 17:01or practices like actually within that hospital?
- 17:03How could he protect other people if he hadn't signed this
- 17:05state? And I guess that's what they
- 17:07say. Like he, he signed this thing
- 17:08and you know, that's, that's what it was.
- 17:11OK. Next, did Asperger belong to a
- 17:15circle of supporters? Bustins does not mention
- 17:20Asperger. And interestingly, Asperger did
- 17:22not mention the episode even in instances where he was trying to
- 17:26establish his anti Nazi credentials.
- 17:28Now, this is referring to other people who talk about Nazi
- 17:32groups, Nazi social circles, all that kind of stuff.
- 17:34Asperger was never part of those things.
- 17:35And they're saying he actively opposed those things publicly in
- 17:38the statement maybe people's books, which is really
- 17:40interesting. He also mentioned that he had
- 17:43committed himself to working for the Hitler Youth.
- 17:46Now, Hitler Youth was started way before the Nazis became this
- 17:51horrible kind of thing, right? And the Hitler Youth was part of
- 17:53this natural socialism thing. So I'm not entirely sure where
- 17:57that comes in. But it, it could mean that he's
- 17:59nasty, I don't know, giving us the facts here, but that's
- 18:01something that he did do. Most likely.
- 18:02Asperger took the decision in order to protect and further his
- 18:05career by forgoing the Nazi Party membership.
- 18:09He chose a middle path between keeping his distance from the
- 18:11regime and outright alignment. So he tried to, you know, be
- 18:16involved so it looked like he was towing the light until he
- 18:18wouldn't get killed. He could still protect all the
- 18:19people, but he was just doing what he could to protect his his
- 18:22patients. And Asperger's case file also
- 18:25demonstrates how he tried to prove his loyalty.
- 18:27Beginning in 1938, he took to signing his diagnostic report
- 18:31with Heil Hitler, which is an awful symbolic thing of Hitler.
- 18:34He mainly symbolic but revealing gesture.
- 18:36Now this is really sticky. I don't know where I stand on
- 18:39that handouts burger. Signing things with Heil Hitler
- 18:41is downright ludicrous unless this is the only thing that
- 18:45could happen is that he was put under pressure.
- 18:48You know, you could be signing your documents.
- 18:50You're a Nazi VLA if you didn't write Hal Hitler on something.
- 18:52I don't know. I'm just I'm just printing
- 18:54speculation. I both through your comments and
- 18:55so please comment on as we go. At the time the Nazis takeover
- 18:59Austria, 213 year old Jewish boys, Alfred S and Walter
- 19:03Buckner were patients of the ward.
- 19:06Alfred's file contains no evidence that he was treated in
- 19:08any different way from the other children.
- 19:10And this is within Asperger's clinic, which is really
- 19:12interesting. He had no issues with with race
- 19:14or Jews or anything like that. And I want to make a big
- 19:17statement here. People again, especially about
- 19:19arguments with people saying that, you know, to, to use the
- 19:22term Asperger's syndrome is insensitive to Romany gypsies
- 19:25or, you know, Romany Gypsy descent or Romany descent and
- 19:28Jewish people. Well, I am Romany descent.
- 19:30My grandmother was Romany. So and I used the term
- 19:33Arspudges. And I'm not offended by it
- 19:36because I, I, it's just a name. Even if Hanspudges did all these
- 19:39horrible Nazi things, I don't think that that name is for him.
- 19:44I think that name is for us as a community.
- 19:45But that's just my personal opinion on it.
- 19:46Let's let's keep moving on here. We've got a few more screenshots
- 19:48to go. OK, as far as the written record
- 19:51is concerned, there is no indication that Asperger was
- 19:53guided by personal animosity towards Jews.
- 19:57There you go. Asperger repeated this motive of
- 20:00responsible cooperation with the Nazi race hygiene in later
- 20:04writings. We will see shortly that the.
- 20:06These tasks entailed and how he handled them in the context of
- 20:11his own work. In his lectures he went on to
- 20:13specify how the sterilization law should be implemented with
- 20:17regards to the children who had features opposed.
- 20:21Features opposed in nearly every way to the high functioning
- 20:25autistic type described for the first time in the paper.
- 20:27Now, this is basically saying that Handoutsperger was saying
- 20:29these people should be sterilized or killed.
- 20:31In terms of the idea of the the the race hygiene.
- 20:35Race hygiene does not mean deceased, right?
- 20:37Doesn't mean killing people. It actually means sterilizing
- 20:40people. Now, there is something similar
- 20:43that happens if people are pregnant.
- 20:46You can do a test to see if the baby has Down syndrome, right?
- 20:49And if the baby has Down syndrome, you can have the
- 20:51option to terminate that baby, which is basically along the
- 20:55lines of this type of hygiene idea.
- 20:57And then there's another kind of very controversial idea where
- 21:02you have somebody who's profoundly disabled, right,
- 21:05especially females who are profoundly disabled and they,
- 21:09their carers or parents or guardians will have them
- 21:11sterilised. Because, you know, you may be in
- 21:13a country where, you know, rape and sexual abuse is something
- 21:16that's rampant. And you can have, you know, a
- 21:18pregnant, a heavily disabled person, which is a bad situation
- 21:21to be in. So you can see how this relating
- 21:25to anything that's to do is horrible because that's doing it
- 21:26for awful things. But Hans Berger may have been
- 21:29trying to tell the light. I don't know.
- 21:30I'm literally just putting out there.
- 21:31I'm showing parallels here. And this again is in the 1940s,
- 21:35right? So interesting to note.
- 21:37These children are intellectually below average,
- 21:39including to the degree of feeble mindless, whereby with
- 21:43intelligence we mean abstract intelligence where particular
- 21:47reason. In short, everything that has to
- 21:50do with instinct, including the practical, useless and the value
- 21:54of character, are much better developed in relevant tips.
- 21:58The these cases are important, or at least they will be as soon
- 22:01as the law for the prevention of hereditary disease offspring
- 22:05comes into force here. If the physician has to take a
- 22:09decision in such a case, we will not be allowed to do so based
- 22:13solely on a question sorry, questionnaire or the
- 22:15intelligence culture. Rather, he will base it
- 22:19primarily on his own knowledge of the child's personal
- 22:22personality, taking into account all of the children's skills in
- 22:26addition to abstract intelligence.
- 22:29So basically this. This passage has been quoted as
- 22:32evidence that housewares have tried to publicly protect
- 22:33patients from the forced sterilisation.
- 22:36So you can see how you know it's conflicting.
- 22:38You can't, there's no straight answer here, right?
- 22:40So you can't say one way or another he was, he was, you
- 22:43know, sympathising Nazis or doing all this horrible stuff
- 22:45because there's no evidence of actually doing it.
- 22:47It's just him toeing the line basically in terms of political
- 22:50kind of conformity. In his 1944 paper on autism,
- 22:55Asperger reiterated his belief that an individual's
- 22:57possibilities of mental development were primarily
- 23:00determined by the genetic makeup.
- 23:02And people saying thus Helbedangoggook, which is that
- 23:06horrible euthanasia hospital, but that's not it.
- 23:08By saying that someone's pertained by the genetic makeup
- 23:10is basically saying that like, well, we know that autism is
- 23:13hereditary, right? It comes from the genes.
- 23:16I don't know. Asperger's statement continued
- 23:18to be published in journals controlled by the Nazi
- 23:20loyalists. This is really interesting to
- 23:22know. Everything that Asperger had out
- 23:23publicly was controlled by Nazis.
- 23:25Which means that it could have been ducted, edited by Nazis.
- 23:29It was controlled by Nazi lawyers.
- 23:30Do you show you don't know what publicly about from Asperger was
- 23:33actually from his mouth last, Badger put the spotlight on
- 23:37children at what is often called the high functioning end of the
- 23:40spectrum, interpreting this as a tactic to protect all children
- 23:43with autistic traits from race hygiene measures.
- 23:45And there you go. And Dallas Badger tried his best
- 23:47to make sure that not just, you know, high functioning autistic
- 23:51people, but every person on the autistic spectrum in his care
- 23:55would be protected from race hygiene.
- 23:57Now guys, I don't know what to make up from this.
- 23:59To me it seems that it was a difficult time in Vienna.
- 24:02Nazi occupied Hans Asperger had no previous history of being
- 24:06horrible or anything towards children, Jews or anybody.
- 24:09He tried his best in his in his publication where it's actually
- 24:11stated to protect the children. He was arrested by the Gestapo.
- 24:15He was doing everything he can to defend in you know, the Heim
- 24:19Hitler thing. Again, if your documents are
- 24:21controlled by Nazi loyalists, it's hard to to understand.
- 24:24In conclusion, I don't think we should be telling people that
- 24:27they should or shouldn't use the same Asperger syndrome because
- 24:29if you're diagnosed with it prior to 2013 and you still use
- 24:32that, then that's your choice. We have a a day and age where we
- 24:35identify people as they and them and we should expect that and
- 24:38respect that. And the same with if someone
- 24:41wants to identify as Asperger's syndrome, should expect that to
- 24:44be, you know, respected. And my stance is if, if you want
- 24:51to use the term Asperger, use it, it doesn't mean that you're
- 24:53a Nazi sporter. And even if the hands Asperger
- 24:55is an evil, horrible person, it doesn't mean that we have to do
- 24:57anything in relation to his work.
- 25:00Now, Asperger was a key role, as Steve Silverman said in the
- 25:03autism research. Leo Caddo potentially may have,
- 25:07you know, taken some of the stuff.
- 25:08And I'd rather say that in this article that you can read down
- 25:11below. The people who were opposed to
- 25:13hands Asperger were the people who started this eight-year
- 25:16study or it came from their their state, which is really
- 25:19interesting because if you're in a an opposition to someone, you
- 25:22could potentially want to smear it.
- 25:25You could potentially want to smear their name.
- 25:27But that's just my intellectual version of my opinion on it.
- 25:31I don't throw your opinion on it.
- 25:32I don't want this to be a horrible negative video session.
- 25:35I wanted it to be something that is completely out in the open
- 25:37and open discussion. Up until this point, we've seen
- 25:40people just saying that Hans Rash was a naughty, He was in,
- 25:43he was into, you know, euthanasia and race hygiene
- 25:46cleansing. And the evidence shows that he
- 25:49really wasn't, you know, it, it, it's, it's weird how like it's
- 25:53spread like wildfire, even though the people who were on
- 25:57that paper said the opposite about Hans Aspergers.
- 25:59So we really need to get the fact right.
- 26:01There's been many Youtubers, many Youtubers, some that I used
- 26:04to be friends with who changed their name from, you know,
- 26:06something aspy or something, you know, Aspergers to other things
- 26:10because of this whole ridiculous notion of being scared of using
- 26:13the same Asperger syndrome. And I don't think we should take
- 26:15that away from anybody. Feel free to do what they want.
- 26:18But you need to get your facts right.
- 26:19Don't change it because you think Hazas Werger was a Nazi
- 26:21who who killed kids. Because there's no evidence of
- 26:23this clearly in this paper. This is the paper that everyone
- 26:25refers to. But if you've read it, you would
- 26:27realise that this is not the case.
- 26:30And so I ask you to think about it and discuss and allow people
- 26:33to be free to use what they want.
- 26:36OK guys, sorry for the long video.
- 26:38See you in the next one. Peace.
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