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Phil Robertson And Jersey Joe How One Moment Has Changed Millions Of Lives · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 1: This is Arrow Collins. How are you doing today?
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Arrow.
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  Speaker 3: How are you?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm very excited to share a conversation with you
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  Speaker 1: because I love your transparency. I also love the way
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  Speaker 1: that you can take something from the past and make
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  Speaker 1: it about the present. Oh, wait a second. The preachers
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  Speaker 1: do that every Sunday and we love them for it.
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  Speaker 1: And there's just a story here that you've got that
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  Speaker 1: is going to change people's lives, dude.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Don't you think that's because we live in this generation
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  Speaker 1: where we think that our friendships are everything right now
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  Speaker 1: and we totally forget that something's going to be happening
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  Speaker 1: over the next two decades, five decades. And it's almost like,
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  Speaker 1: why can't we put focus on that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's absolutely true. I mean, absolutely true. And this
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  Speaker 2: story tells that from really deep in its heart.
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  Speaker 3: It's telling the.
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  Speaker 2: Story about two individuals that actually intertwined their lives together,
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  Speaker 2: which in reality, when you think about it, they would
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  Speaker 2: have never met otherwise if it wasn't for the fact
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  Speaker 2: that Jesus stepped in here. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm a firm believer in that.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 1: There are many times, and I'll bring that up. And boy,
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  Speaker 1: if you only knew how many times here in the
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  Speaker 1: South I'm chastised because of that. And I look at
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  Speaker 1: him and go, hmm, okay. I'll meet you there on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: You'll see where I'm coming from.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: What have you learned along this journey? Because there's always
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  Speaker 1: those little, what I call Easter egg niblets that God
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  Speaker 1: puts on our path. And we go, oh, this is
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  Speaker 1: going to be a lesson that I need to stuff
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  Speaker 1: away and teach later.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you look at the whole story itself.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the crux of the story is basically here's
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  Speaker 2: a firefighter in New Jersey who is really just at
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  Speaker 2: the– on the outside, he looks like he's this perfect person, right?
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  Speaker 3: Everybody's respected him.
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  Speaker 2: He's successful in life. He's made money. He's raised his family.
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  Speaker 3: He's doing well.
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  Speaker 2: But on the inside, he's dying. He is an alcoholic.
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  Speaker 2: He is stressed out of his mind. He is having
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  Speaker 2: anxiety attacks, panic attacks. And he's addicted to pornographic material online.
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  Speaker 2: And one day he's sitting in front of his computer, right,
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  Speaker 2: being me, sitting in front of my computer with three
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  Speaker 2: fingers of whiskey.
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  Speaker 3: To my right.
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  Speaker 2: And my algorithm on YouTube, instead of showing the normal
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  Speaker 2: suggestions for pornographic material, it shows a bearded guy in
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  Speaker 2: the woods.
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  Speaker 3: Preaching the gospel, something that I've never heard before.
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  Speaker 2: And I decided to take the shot and click on
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  Speaker 2: him and actually listen to what he was saying. That
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  Speaker 2: one click changed the entire trajectory of my life. And
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  Speaker 2: it put Jesus into my head. I started thinking about it.
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  Speaker 2: I started watching more and more podcasts. And the next
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  Speaker 2: thing you know, I'm going down to West Monroe to
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  Speaker 2: visit the people down in West Monroe. And then literally
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  Speaker 2: days after that, my house gets listed on the market,
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  Speaker 2: sells within 24 hours. I pack up my family, move
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  Speaker 2: down to West Monroe, and that's when the story begins.
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  Speaker 2: I end up developing a relationship with a bearded duck
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  Speaker 2: hunter who.
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  Speaker 3: Carried a Bible in one hand and a shotgun in
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  Speaker 3: the other.
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  Speaker 1: I have been with his grandchildren. I have been with
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  Speaker 1: his children. His energy is still so present today. And
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  Speaker 1: then to hear you have that story, I get the
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  Speaker 1: same exact shivers as I do with the Robertson family.
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  Speaker 1: It's just I love their energy.
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  Speaker 2: They're amazing people, and the best thing about Phil Robertson is.
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  Speaker 3: What you see is what you get with him.
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  Speaker 2: And behind the scenes, behind the camera, what a loving, caring,
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  Speaker 2: nurturing man. He took me under his wing, and we
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  Speaker 2: totally developed a Timothy and Paul type of story where
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  Speaker 2: he became my spiritual father.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, now when you start bringing up Paul and stuff,
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  Speaker 1: so would you be the one that was in prison
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  Speaker 1: then and you became free and you were able to
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  Speaker 1: build upon that platform?
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  Speaker 3: Basically, yes.
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  Speaker 2: I was imprisoned in sin and not believing. Basically, so
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  Speaker 2: some background, I was raised in a Catholic household, right?
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  Speaker 2: So my grandmother was a very staunch Catholic and believed
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  Speaker 2: that she wanted her grandchildren to become strong in.
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  Speaker 3: The faith as well.
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  Speaker 2: But I was just totally turned off by Catholicism because
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  Speaker 2: I didn't like what was going on in the church.
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  Speaker 2: And quite frankly, my father and mother, they got divorced
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  Speaker 2: when I was very young. I had multiple stepfathers in
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  Speaker 2: my life who abused me and didn't want me around.
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  Speaker 2: So I was just really, religion was the last thing
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  Speaker 2: I was thinking about. And I never knew what Jesus
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  Speaker 2: did for me on the cross. I had no idea
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  Speaker 2: when Phil sat me down and looked me dead in
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  Speaker 2: the eye and said to me, how are you going
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  Speaker 2: to get that body out of the ground when you die?
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  Speaker 3: Because we all died.
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  Speaker 2: And I looked at him and I said, is that
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  Speaker 2: a true question? And he said, absolutely not.
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  Speaker 3: We all die, don't we? And I said, yes.
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  Speaker 2: He says, this life is temporary. You need to accept
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  Speaker 2: Jesus for what he did for you on the cross.
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  Speaker 2: And when I actually read, you know, the gospel itself, Matthew, Mark, Luke,
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  Speaker 2: and John, and truly understood who Jesus was, what he
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  Speaker 2: came to do. He's the son of God. He died
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  Speaker 2: on the cross for my sins. And all I need
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  Speaker 2: to do is accept him for what he did and
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  Speaker 2: believe in him that not only would my life change,
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  Speaker 2: but I had the promise of eternal life. And to me,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't want to miss out on this.
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  Speaker 2: I need to do what I need to do here.
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  Speaker 2: So now I dedicate, I dedicate, I said to Phil
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  Speaker 2: on his deathbed. I read him 2 Timothy, and I
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  Speaker 2: said to him, Phil, I love you, and I am
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  Speaker 2: going to now pick up the torch and carry it
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  Speaker 2: and continue your ministry, continue what you started, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to work to bring the gospel to the world
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  Speaker 2: in any small way that I can. So this book
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  Speaker 2: tells the story of someone who was beat up, broke
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  Speaker 2: down at the bottom of his life, and totally, you know,
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  Speaker 2: everybody talks about, you know, Al said that Al and
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  Speaker 2: I were doing a show the other day and I
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  Speaker 2: was talking and he said, you know what? He says,
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  Speaker 2: one day I'm going to do, I'm going to, I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to preach on, can one click change your life?
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  Speaker 3: And absolutely one click can change your life.
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  Speaker 2: And that one click back in 2018, 2017, when I
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  Speaker 2: was looking at that computer screen and that algorithm popped up,
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  Speaker 2: Phil Robertson and I clicked it, it totally set the
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  Speaker 2: rest of my life. To where I am now. So
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  Speaker 2: this book that I wrote is dedicated to Phil Robertson
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  Speaker 2: and what he did in my life and how he changes,
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  Speaker 2: you know, how he basically he didn't change me. He
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  Speaker 2: showed me Jesus who changed me.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what it's all about. And that's really the
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  Speaker 3: heart of the story.
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  Speaker 1: You took me right to Stephen Furtick's message this past Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: I had to go get my church notes immediately because
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  Speaker 1: Stephen said, God is constantly calling you. He really is
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  Speaker 1: interested in your mistakes. How many people run from God
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  Speaker 1: because they don't think that God will sit down and
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  Speaker 1: listen to them? Oh my God, they're making one big
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  Speaker 1: problem right there.
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  Speaker 2: You're absolutely right. I mean, Jesus set out to find
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  Speaker 2: the broken. Jesus wants the broken. He wants the hurt.
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  Speaker 2: He wants to help and change you. And he's always there.
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  Speaker 2: He's always been with you. You know, all my life
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  Speaker 2: as a firefighter, I was in so many deadly situations
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  Speaker 2: where I could have been killed. Brothers and sisters that
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  Speaker 2: were alongside of me could have been killed. But we
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  Speaker 2: all had Jesus there watching over us, even though we
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  Speaker 2: didn't know who he was. We didn't know anything about him,
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  Speaker 2: but he was always there and he always will be.
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  Speaker 2: And he's always trying to reach every single soul in
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  Speaker 2: this world. You just got, that's why you got two ears.
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  Speaker 3: And two eyes.
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  Speaker 2: So you can look and listen twice as much as
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  Speaker 2: you speak.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm telling you, he's out there. The signs are
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  Speaker 3: always there, always there.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I, I preach on, I tell this story
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  Speaker 2: where this boy, he wanted a red sports car so
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  Speaker 2: badly and he prayed and prayed and prayed and he
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  Speaker 2: never got.
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  Speaker 3: This red sports car.
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  Speaker 2: And he was just like so upset with God because
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  Speaker 2: he said, you know, I, I did everything you told
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  Speaker 2: me to do.
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  Speaker 3: I pray and pray and pray.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't get what I want. And, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you got to remember, the Bible tells us that the
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  Speaker 2: Lord will provide. Right. Jesus will give us what we need,
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  Speaker 2: not necessarily what we want. So this boy who didn't
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  Speaker 2: get this sports car, some other boy got it. And
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  Speaker 2: one night that other boy was racing it down the
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  Speaker 2: road and it was raining and he.
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  Speaker 3: Wrapped it around a telephone pole and died.
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  Speaker 2: And then the boy who wanted the car sat back
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  Speaker 2: and he thought to himself, my goodness, that could have
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  Speaker 2: been me if I would have gotten that car. So
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  Speaker 2: it was all part of God's plan. And that's what
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  Speaker 2: we got to understand as human beings. We want everything
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  Speaker 2: in the now. We want it like we got to
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  Speaker 2: have it today. But we don't understand that we have
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  Speaker 2: to wait on Jesus's timeline.
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  Speaker 3: Because there's a reason why he does what he does.
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  Speaker 2: And when you sit back and look at the big
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  Speaker 2: picture of your past, you will see that if you
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  Speaker 2: would have gotten things that you prayed for back then,
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  Speaker 2: you would be in a completely different situation now. So
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  Speaker 2: you just don't know what you want. Only he does.
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  Speaker 2: And people have to understand that.
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  Speaker 1: A little bit too heavy? Uh-uh. Never too heavy. Just
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  Speaker 1: hang out with us a little bit longer. You're actually
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  Speaker 1: going to pick up on something, okay? And it's really
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  Speaker 1: going to change you. We'll be back with Jersey Joe
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  Speaker 1: coming up next. The name of the book, Phil Robertson
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  Speaker 1: and Jersey Joe. We're talking with Jersey Joe right now.
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  Speaker 1: I just if I got to tell you, I know
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  Speaker 1: that you talked about Timothy and Paul, but I'm telling you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm feeling Peter coming from you because Peter is the
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  Speaker 1: one who turned to his fellow man to help them up.
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  Speaker 1: And that's exactly what you're doing here. You have slipped
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  Speaker 1: on a pair of Peter's shoes.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm just trying to continue what Phil started. And
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  Speaker 2: the only way I could possibly pay back Phil Robertson
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  Speaker 2: and the Robertson family for what they've done for me
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  Speaker 2: is to continue to spread the word and share it
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  Speaker 2: with others and bring others to the Lord.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what I want this book to do. I
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  Speaker 3: want this book to go to the people. And I
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  Speaker 3: pray for it.
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  Speaker 2: I pray for it every day that this book reaches
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  Speaker 2: the hands of someone who who is down on their luck,
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  Speaker 2: someone who is just so depressed, and they see it,
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  Speaker 2: they read it, and those words jump out at them
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  Speaker 2: and grab them and grab their heart and say, you
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  Speaker 2: know what? God is the answer. You just need to
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  Speaker 2: let him in. He is pounding on your front door, people.
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  Speaker 2: All you got to do is open it up and
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  Speaker 2: invite him in.
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  Speaker 1: You know, one of the things that I keep feeling
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  Speaker 1: from your heart at this point in time is that
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  Speaker 1: and I seem to be seeing it a lot in
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  Speaker 1: TV shows these days. Where are you, God? Where are you, God?
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  Speaker 1: And I'll bet you you've got the same kind of
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  Speaker 1: stories I'm going to have here. And what happened was
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  Speaker 1: in my daily writing, I swear to you that the
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  Speaker 1: writing instrument said, I'm here. Where are you? And that
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  Speaker 1: was my eye opener. When was your eye opener where
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  Speaker 1: you realize, holy moly, God is right here with me.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have to ask, where is God anymore?
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  Speaker 2: The day that I came, it was probably two weeks
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  Speaker 2: of living in West Monroe. And I was baptized by
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  Speaker 2: Phil Robertson when I came up out of that water.
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  Speaker 2: And when I wiped the water from my eyes and
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  Speaker 2: I stood there in that baptism pool with Phil Robertson
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  Speaker 2: to my left and I just took this deep breath
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  Speaker 2: and I felt the Holy Spirit just rush over top
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  Speaker 2: of me. And I realized that he was there all along.
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  Speaker 2: I just needed to accept him. And this day in
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  Speaker 2: West Monroe, in this hot August heat, while I am
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  Speaker 2: in this baptism pool, this is where I was meant
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  Speaker 2: to be. And this is where he called me to be,
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  Speaker 2: standing alongside of Phil Robertson and accepting Jesus and now
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  Speaker 2: starting to walk forward with the Lord.
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  Speaker 1: How did you deal with the people on the outside
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  Speaker 1: that called themselves friend and family and they saw the
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  Speaker 1: changing inside Joseph? It couldn't have been an easy journey.
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  Speaker 1: How did you stay faithful to it and keep your focus?
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  Speaker 2: It's interesting because I do a lot of speaking now.
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  Speaker 2: I do a lot of podcasts. A lot of these
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  Speaker 2: podcasts that you do, you get these comments on there
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  Speaker 2: from certain people. I swear I see some real rude,
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  Speaker 2: nasty comments sometimes when I'm.
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  Speaker 3: Looking at those. I'm thinking, these are people that know me.
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  Speaker 3: These are people that were in my previous life.
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  Speaker 2: I have I still have friends in my life that
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  Speaker 2: I've had since I was a child.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And then there are other people that were part of
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  Speaker 2: my life that now have moved on. I was telling
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  Speaker 2: a story the other day where I heard from some
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  Speaker 2: friends in New Jersey after I had left.
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  Speaker 3: They said, you know, there's something wrong with him.
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  Speaker 2: He's running from something that nobody packs up their family
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  Speaker 2: and leaves. And my response was, yes, I'm running, but
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  Speaker 2: I'm running to something, not from something, and I'm running
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  Speaker 2: to Jesus.
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  Speaker 3: And Jesus changed my life.
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  Speaker 2: So when I look back on those people that had
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  Speaker 2: the negative comments and negative things to say about me
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  Speaker 2: and say that I was running for something, I'm saying
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  Speaker 2: to them simply, you need to open your mind and
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  Speaker 2: your heart and listen to what I'm trying to tell you,
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  Speaker 2: because the answer is Jesus. And he called on me
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  Speaker 2: and I answered it. And a lot of us he
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  Speaker 2: calls on and some people just don't answer it. But remember,
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  Speaker 2: remember these people, everyone deserves Jesus in their life. Jesus
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  Speaker 2: is here for everyone. God created all of us equal.
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  Speaker 2: We're all brothers and sisters. No matter what you've done,
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  Speaker 2: no matter how bad your life is, no matter how
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  Speaker 2: bad you've had it, Jesus will save you no matter
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  Speaker 2: what you did.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we go to prisons and we talk to inmates.
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  Speaker 2: And the last prison I went to, I stood up
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  Speaker 2: there and I said to the audience, a very large audience,
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  Speaker 2: I looked out at them and.
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  Speaker 3: I said, you know something?
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  Speaker 2: The only difference between you and me is the simple
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  Speaker 2: fact that you got caught.
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  Speaker 3: And I didn't.
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  Speaker 2: That's why you're here. We are all sinners. Every single
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  Speaker 2: one of us are sinners. You just happened to get caught.
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  Speaker 3: But guess what? But guess what, folks?
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  Speaker 2: I'm here to give you the good news and let
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  Speaker 2: you know that it doesn't matter what you did. God
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  Speaker 2: doesn't care what you did because he knows what you did.
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  Speaker 2: You need to confess your sins to him and accept Jesus,
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  Speaker 2: and he will change your life and set you on
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  Speaker 2: the right path. Phil always told us, just because you're
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  Speaker 2: behind lock and key does not mean that you cannot
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  Speaker 2: be set free. Ah!
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  Speaker 1: I know that story all too well. So I did
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  Speaker 1: a big story on iHeartRadio today, and I'm anxious to
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  Speaker 1: find out what your feelings are. My question was, has
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  Speaker 1: sin changed? And what I learned was, no, sin has not.
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  Speaker 1: Only the human has of what we accept today. Where
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  Speaker 1: in the past, we didn't accept the addiction. We didn't
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  Speaker 1: accept the human errors as deep as they can go. Today,
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  Speaker 1: it's like, eh, they'll get over it. It's like, whoa, whoa.
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  Speaker 1: So it's not that sin has changed. Society has changed.
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  Speaker 1: And a book like this gives me refocus.
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  Speaker 3: It absolutely does. Remember, the gospel isn't advice. It's power.
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  Speaker 3: You can read that in Romans 1.16, right? Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 2: America today, they're confused about their identity. They're confused about
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  Speaker 2: whether they're a man or a woman. They're confused about politics.
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  Speaker 2: They're confused about everything that's going. We got a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of people that are scared to death of a continued
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  Speaker 2: war in Iran with Israel and the U.S.
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  Speaker 3: Going there.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, America is confused right now, but Jesus can restore that.
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  Speaker 2: Just simply look at Galatians 2.20, right? You know, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: sacrifice remains, you know, Sacrifice.
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  Speaker 3: Is what love is, right?
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  Speaker 2: You know, Jesus, Jesus sacrificed his life for each and
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  Speaker 2: every one of us for all of our mistakes. He
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  Speaker 2: is he is just the true power that we need
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  Speaker 2: to accept. And when we can accept him and we
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  Speaker 2: can accept our neighbor who is for our neighbor and
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  Speaker 2: who they are and love them for who they are.
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  Speaker 3: You know, our lives will get better. Truly, our lives
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  Speaker 3: can get better here. And Jesus is the answer.
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  Speaker 2: And he's trying harder than ever to get into everyone's
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  Speaker 2: life and affect everyone. But there are just sometimes it's
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  Speaker 2: hard because there are just some people that are very
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  Speaker 2: thick headed.
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  Speaker 3: And you don't see it even when it's right in
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  Speaker 3: front of their faces. Right.
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  Speaker 1: So true. Where can people go to find out more
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  Speaker 1: about you, Joseph? Because 15 minutes with you is not
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  Speaker 1: enough time. I want them to have their personal time
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  Speaker 1: because it's a personal relationship. So therefore, I want them
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  Speaker 1: to be able to study what you're doing and grow
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  Speaker 1: on the inside out.
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  Speaker 3: So I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 2: So you can go for the book. You can go
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  Speaker 2: to Jersey Joe book dot com and you can read
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  Speaker 2: all about the book. It tells the story of, you know,
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  Speaker 2: what what's written on those pages and what they mean
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  Speaker 2: to me and how it can help them in their
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  Speaker 2: everyday lives. So that's Jersey Joe book dot com. So
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  Speaker 2: you can also go to Jersey Joe L.A. dot com
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  Speaker 2: and link to all of my social media accounts. We
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  Speaker 2: put out a weekly podcast and it drops every Sunday
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  Speaker 2: at 9 a.m. Central Time where we basically.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Talk about the week's news.
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  Speaker 2: And we have a raffle going on right now for
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: basically we take listener questions and we address them on
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: the air. So anyone that calls in or writes in
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: gets entered into a monthly drawing where you can get
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  Speaker 2: something from our online store sent to you for free.
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  Speaker 3: It may be an autographed copy of the book. It
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: may be a T-shirt, a hat, whatever. We just want
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  Speaker 3: folks to be engaged.
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  Speaker 2: We want folks to follow us on Facebook and follow
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  Speaker 2: us on YouTube and just, you know, help spread the
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  Speaker 2: word and the brothership there.
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  Speaker 3: That Phil and I started.
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  Speaker 2: And, you know, the goal here is to bring the
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  Speaker 2: gospel to the world.
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  Speaker 1: I am just so glad that God presented this to
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  Speaker 1: us today. And we both said yes. This has just
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  Speaker 1: been so special. And you got to come back to
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  Speaker 1: this show anytime in the future. The door is always
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  Speaker 1: going to be open for you, sir.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate you. Have a great day. God bless
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  Speaker 2: you and your listeners. And just remember, keep the faith.
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  Speaker 2: No matter what happens, this is just a trial run
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  Speaker 2: for eternity.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my God, I love your heart. I love your
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: heart so much. You be brilliant today, okay, sir?
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  Speaker 3: Thank you. Have a great day.