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  Speaker 1: We've got to talk through these games, maybe even some
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  Speaker 1: of the Week 1 games, Bone, like Clemson-LSU, involving ACC
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: teams as well.
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  Speaker 2: That Louisville-Omiss one is enticing. Very much so. Let's talk about.
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  Speaker 1: The early season for the ACC with Wes Durham, ACC Network, ESPN.
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  Speaker 1: Joining us on the Mac and Bone Show, Wes, what's
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  Speaker 1: going on, man?
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  Speaker 2: How you doing?
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  Speaker 3: Can't get worried about those joint practices, fellas.
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  Speaker 2: We're not worried at all, Wes.
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  Speaker 4: Wes, we're keeping it measured now because if they played well,
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  Speaker 4: we wouldn't be too excited.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? It's just a joint session.
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  Speaker 5: I just heard him say the Panthers got banged around
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  Speaker 5: in a joint practice.
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  Speaker 3: Come on. Joint practice? Did they have pads on? Did
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  Speaker 3: we double-check that?
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  Speaker 2: They did. They didn't use them. Our offensive tackles did
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  Speaker 2: not use them.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, Wes.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, let's do this, though.
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  Speaker 1: To your point, Wes, let's talk about Real Ball, baby,
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  Speaker 1: because it starts this week in Week 0. We were
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  Speaker 1: talking about this earlier with Carolina. They still feel like
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  Speaker 1: a team where it's so hard to know what to expect.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, 40-plus new freshmen, tons of new transfers, too.
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  Speaker 2: What are you expecting?
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  Speaker 1: Is there anything we can say we know what to
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  Speaker 1: expect from Carolina on Saturday against TCU?
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  Speaker 5: Um, that's a really good question. And it's well, because
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  Speaker 5: you say, well, they got 40 odd new players. And
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  Speaker 5: if you had the 70 some from a year ago,
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  Speaker 5: it's basically, it's almost 120 guys in two years.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: So look at it broad scope wise, you got a
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  Speaker 5: little boy or man, should I be really concerned that,
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  Speaker 5: you know, it's going to be another four and eight.
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  Speaker 5: I know one thing, Bobby Petrino has been a lot
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  Speaker 5: of things to a lot of people in his career,
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  Speaker 5: but The one thing Bobby Petrino can do is scheme
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  Speaker 5: offensive plays. And Bobby Petrino knows how to run the
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  Speaker 5: football in a variety of ways. And I think with
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  Speaker 5: Ben Hall and Demond June and an offensive line, Christo Kelly,
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  Speaker 5: obviously the anchor at center, Billy Edwards has got some
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  Speaker 5: experience behind him. I mean, legitimate experience behind him. Um,
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  Speaker 5: I think that Carolina is going to try and run
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  Speaker 5: the ball. I think that'll be job one for them
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  Speaker 5: in Ireland against TCU. And it should be because quite frankly,
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  Speaker 5: what you want to do against somebody like Sonny Dykes,
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  Speaker 5: who wants to swing it like he did last year
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  Speaker 5: in Chapel Hill, when he get, when he got the
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  Speaker 5: window is you want to keep the ball away from them.
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  Speaker 5: So in essence, I think Carolina is going to be a,
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  Speaker 5: I don't want to say a dominant run team, but
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  Speaker 5: in terms of percentage of usage, I would say you're
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  Speaker 5: probably looking at a very dominant run team. Um, I
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  Speaker 5: think defensively, Elkhart, Abjadeh, the defensive end, Elkhart, is terrific.
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  Speaker 5: I think they've got a couple pieces elsewise on the defense.
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  Speaker 5: In some respect, I'm kind of more concerned about what
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  Speaker 5: they might be defensively just based on their growth a
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  Speaker 5: year ago and now some of the guys that are gone.
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  Speaker 4: That weather out there also is supposed to be open championship. Like,
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  Speaker 4: I know you're a golf guy, Wes, and it's, Mag,
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  Speaker 4: it's supposed to be like, what's the, I'm going to
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  Speaker 4: try to name a court, Royal, Royal Julie Andrews, Mag,
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  Speaker 4: what's the case out there?
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  Speaker 5: Royal County Down is the court in Northern Ireland.
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  Speaker 2: There you go.
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  Speaker 5: Listen to, listen to T-Bone get after the golf here.
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  Speaker 5: Let me, okay, first of all, Port Marnick, the Island Club,
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  Speaker 5: and some of those courses are a little bit closer
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  Speaker 5: to Dublin than Royal County Down. And, But boy, am
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  Speaker 5: I impressed with you going with the Sky Sports report there.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I did call it Royal Julie Andrews, and that's
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  Speaker 2: obviously not the name of the course.
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  Speaker 5: Royal Julie Andrews, that is lovely.
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  Speaker 2: There might be a course out there named after her.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure on your next trip to Scotland, where St.
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  Speaker 5: Andrews is, not Ireland, where Carolina's playing, they will welcome
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  Speaker 5: you with open arms.
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  Speaker 4: I get you somewhere near the course, not fully there
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  Speaker 4: to the front door. For UNC, before we get to
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  Speaker 4: your game, the pack in Virginia, last year, obviously an embarrassment.
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  Speaker 4: Then they have the drama, and they have more drama
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  Speaker 4: this offseason. But what do you think would be deemed
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  Speaker 4: a successful year this year for the Heels based off expectations?
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  Speaker 5: Oh, look, guys, I think they can be a better
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  Speaker 5: football team. I don't know that the record will be
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  Speaker 5: better because the schedule's harder.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I do.
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  Speaker 5: I think the schedule is marginally harder. But I think
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  Speaker 5: they could win. I mean, look, you could always have
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  Speaker 5: the Kurt Cignetti lightning strike, okay? The idea of them
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  Speaker 5: going to a bowl game would be a terrific season,
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  Speaker 5: in my opinion, for Carolina.
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  Speaker 3: They go 6-6 or 7-5.
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  Speaker 5: That would be, yeah, I think that would be incredible.
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  Speaker 5: I just don't know that all of this can happen
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  Speaker 5: that quickly. Maybe it can.
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  Speaker 3: Remember, you just said.
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  Speaker 5: It yourself, 40-some-odd new players, 120 over two years, coaching changes,
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  Speaker 5: all those things. But kids are kids, and Carolina has
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  Speaker 5: compensated some kids, and they've brought some success. Guys they
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  Speaker 5: think can play football in, and it'll be interesting to
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  Speaker 5: see what happens nonetheless.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be fascinating to see what happens Saturday. Now,
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  Speaker 1: after that one, you've got NC State, Virginia. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: what a way to start things off. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 1: a big one for both these teams. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what to think. I love C.J.
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  Speaker 2: Bailey.
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  Speaker 1: I really like this state team. I like their schedule.
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  Speaker 1: But Virginia's got experience. I know the quarterback changes, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm wondering about that.
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  Speaker 2: But they got a lot of experience back. What do
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  Speaker 2: you make of this matchup?
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  Speaker 5: I think it's a terrific game. We're fortunate to be here,
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  Speaker 5: excited to be here. It's going to be a headline
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  Speaker 5: game in Week 0 nationally. If you go big picture,
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  Speaker 5: you can argue this game could be really important to
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  Speaker 5: who ends up playing in Charlotte in December. That's a
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  Speaker 5: long way away, but you can make that argument because
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  Speaker 5: I think these are two of the teams that can
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  Speaker 5: challenge the top three with Miami, obviously, Louisville, SMU, and
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  Speaker 5: then I think NC State, Virginia, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Pitt.
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  Speaker 5: I'm only somebody out here and it's going to kill me.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you've got all these other teams that can
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  Speaker 5: clearly contend just based on what they've done recently. If
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  Speaker 5: things go their way, I'm excited to see what Dave's
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  Speaker 5: team is about.
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  Speaker 3: I think Bailey is terrific.
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  Speaker 5: I think he's done a terrific job bringing some of
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  Speaker 5: his buddies with him. Davion Goss is unbelievable. JoJo Trader's
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  Speaker 5: had a terrific training camp for them at wide receiver. Defensively,
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  Speaker 5: I think Harvey Dyson III, the defensive entry transfer from Tulane,
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  Speaker 5: is a prospect that can help them. They've just got
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  Speaker 5: the right– it feels like they've got the right culture,
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  Speaker 5: the right mix, the right blend in today's college football
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  Speaker 5: to be successful. Your point about Bo Pribula– The two
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  Speaker 5: years ago at Penn State, last year at Missouri, this
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  Speaker 5: is more of a runner than a thrower historically. But
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  Speaker 5: I also think Des Kitchens, who used to work for
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  Speaker 5: David NC State and now has been with Tony Elliott
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  Speaker 5: the full way here, is probably going to scheme up
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  Speaker 5: some stuff for Pribula to throw the football because everybody
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  Speaker 5: knows what Pribula can do. I think defensively is the
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  Speaker 5: question I have about Virginia.
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  Speaker 3: Where are they?
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  Speaker 5: Last year they got high production from the front seven.
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  Speaker 5: They were efficient in the back. I think that's why
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  Speaker 5: the game is the game tomorrow, or rather Saturday at 3.30.
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  Speaker 4: Wes, is Virginia's offensive line an indictment of college athletics
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  Speaker 4: right now? I think some of these guys went to
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  Speaker 4: school with Dan Bonner. They have two six-year guys, two
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  Speaker 4: seven-year guys, a fifth-year guy, and a fifth-year tight end.
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  Speaker 4: Has Virginia kind of flown under the radar a little
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  Speaker 4: bit for a team that had one of their best
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  Speaker 4: years ever last year?
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  Speaker 5: All right, first of all, let me tell you this.
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  Speaker 5: The fact that you said you think some of those
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  Speaker 5: kids went to school with Dan Bonner. All right, the
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  Speaker 5: left tackle is Mikael Boley, okay? His dad is Michael Boley,
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  Speaker 5: who played in the NFL. He was a draft pick
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  Speaker 5: of the Atlanta Falcons.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Wait a second.
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  Speaker 5: The left guard is Noah Josie, whose dad was Brian Josie,
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  Speaker 5: who played guard at Vanderbilt in the early 90s. Do
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  Speaker 5: you know who did both of their dads' games on radio?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, no.
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  Speaker 2: That would be you, Wes.
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  Speaker 5: So if they went to school with Dan Bonner, what
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  Speaker 5: the hell does that make me?
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  Speaker 2: I know, man. Oh, my God. I had a choice
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  Speaker 2: to make, Wes. I could have went you or Dan,
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  Speaker 2: and I went Dan.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: But it still stings, Wes. All right.
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  Speaker 5: So here's the reality of this. That is the secret sauce.
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  Speaker 5: They found a couple of guys who were committed to
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  Speaker 5: the program. Metcalf, the kid at center, is very good.
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  Speaker 5: Monroe Mills is back healthy. They were excited about him
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  Speaker 5: a year ago. He never got on the field. He's
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  Speaker 5: going to play right tackle. It comes back to they
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  Speaker 5: lost a lot at running back, but they did get
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  Speaker 5: Peyton Lewis, who's a Southwest Virginia kid who started his
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  Speaker 5: career at Tennessee. Middlebrook is the kid from Middle Tennessee
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  Speaker 5: who's going to start at running back. I think Tony
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  Speaker 5: Elliott and Virginia are seeing the the success of having
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  Speaker 5: some patience, guys.
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  Speaker 3: I really do.
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  Speaker 5: And I think Virginia and NC State, that's why I
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  Speaker 5: think it's a heck of a game. I think they
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  Speaker 5: both can really do some things, to be honest with you.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Wes, I mentioned we got a big one
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  Speaker 1: in week one next weekend between LSU and Clemson. And
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  Speaker 1: there was an interesting story out of Clemson this week
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  Speaker 1: written by Larry Williams, who's covered the Tigers for a while,
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  Speaker 1: saying that we all felt by now Christian Vazina, the veteran,
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  Speaker 1: would be the starter, but that... Last week or so,
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  Speaker 1: Tate Reynolds is surging and Vazina has not been great.
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  Speaker 2: Have you heard any of that talk?
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  Speaker 1: I just find it so hard to believe Dabo would
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  Speaker 1: send the freshman out there to Death Valley to start
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  Speaker 1: on the road.
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  Speaker 5: There's been a lot about Clemson's preseason that's been interesting
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  Speaker 5: to me. Dabo saying, you know, a bunch of nobodies,
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  Speaker 5: one of our worst practices.
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  Speaker 3: Things of that nature. I find it all.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not saying Dabo is poor mouthing. OK, because he
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  Speaker 5: doesn't do that. But I do think it's interesting that
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  Speaker 5: Clemson is coming away on a year where a lot
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  Speaker 5: of people aren't real sure what Clemson's going to be,
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  Speaker 5: especially as you guys know the quarterback, that they're having
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  Speaker 5: these kind of commentaries. I'm not going to be terribly surprised, A,
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  Speaker 5: if they play really, really well next Saturday night. But, B,
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  Speaker 5: the other part, I'm not going to be also surprised
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  Speaker 5: if Tate Reynolds runs out there, guys.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just not.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, Dabo and the way Chad Morris wants to
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  Speaker 5: run the offense, they need somebody who can go who's
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  Speaker 5: got legs at quarterback. Tate Reynolds is a much better
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  Speaker 5: prospect at quarterback in that discipline than Chris Fazzina is.
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  Speaker 5: So we'll see.
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  Speaker 3: I do know this. They've got a.
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  Speaker 5: Terrific talent at wide receiver in Wesco. They've got some
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  Speaker 5: really good players on defense, including Will Health at defensive
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  Speaker 5: end and Sammy Brown at linebacker. that's going to have
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  Speaker 5: to carry them a little bit for sure next Saturday
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  Speaker 5: night in that environment.
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  Speaker 3: Now, here's the other thing, too. We really don't know
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  Speaker 3: what Lane's got.
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  Speaker 5: Lane's got a lot of guys they paid money to
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  Speaker 5: who come with good reputations whose coach has consistently.
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  Speaker 3: Been in the news.
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  Speaker 5: How's LSU coming together? Are they just coming together because
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  Speaker 5: it's Lane and LSU and a lot of money? Because
• 11:32
  Speaker 5: as we've seen, fellas, from time to time, that doesn't
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  Speaker 5: necessarily work in today's college football.
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  Speaker 2: Lane might have half the Cleveland Browns camp, you know?
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  Speaker 2: Which might not be a good thing.
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  Speaker 3: That's another visit for another show. Can we just say this?
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  Speaker 5: Aren't we glad we have avoided that crossing of the
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  Speaker 5: Rubicon right now? I mean, do we really need guys
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  Speaker 5: getting cut by Dave Canales and Dan Morgan on Sunday?
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  Speaker 5: showing up on a college campus on Wednesday because, hey,
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  Speaker 5: I want my year back. Heck no, we don't. Heck no,
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  Speaker 5: we don't. I mean, it's just something we don't want.
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  Speaker 5: And Ghostbusters, we don't want to cross those wires.
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  Speaker 4: Wes, cool announcement yesterday. The ACC Today, your SiriusXM show
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  Speaker 4: on the ACC radio channel, will now be on TV
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  Speaker 4: starting today, right? So Mondays and Thursdays, 10 a.m. to noon,
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  Speaker 4: ACC Network. We can now watch you guys. I know
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  Speaker 4: we will hear. That is awesome stuff, man.
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  Speaker 3: Well, thanks. We're excited.
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  Speaker 5: Now, we're getting ready to start the show here in
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  Speaker 5: about 20 minutes, and I'm in a hotel room in Charlottesville,
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  Speaker 5: and Roddy's in the comforts of his own home, so
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  Speaker 5: it'll be an enlightening two hours at 10 o'clock on.
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  Speaker 3: ACC Network this morning.
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  Speaker 5: But that's kind of the way the show has worked
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  Speaker 5: with the folks at SiriusXM. No, we're grateful for the
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  Speaker 5: partnership of both ACC Network and and Sirius XM. And
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  Speaker 5: we're excited to talk football. We'll have a couple of
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  Speaker 5: folks on today, uh, including, uh, Kevin Richardson, the new
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  Speaker 5: voice of the Stanford. Remember Stanford plays Hawaii. Yeah, that
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  Speaker 5: is Hawaii, uh, this weekend. So, uh, we're looking forward
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  Speaker 5: to talking to Kevin, finding out what to do to
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  Speaker 5: Pritchard's first teams like, and, uh, And we're going to
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  Speaker 5: talk to Mike Barber about the state of Virginia football. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: we're excited. And I appreciate the plug on that and
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  Speaker 5: hope folks enjoy it twice a week on TV on
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  Speaker 5: ACC Network.
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  Speaker 2: Stanford, Hawaii played a heck of a game last year.
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  Speaker 3: It was.
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  Speaker 2: I remember I lost money on that game. You lost
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  Speaker 2: money on it? I bet on that game, yeah. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not proud of myself.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Wes, be good, man. Enjoy the start of
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: the season. Thanks for coming on, as always.
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to hop on the internet here real quick
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  Speaker 5: and see if I can get me a Royal Julie
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  Speaker 5: Andrews t-shirt.
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  Speaker 2: Big course designer she was. Take care, boys.
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  Speaker 1: Be well.