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4 Things We Learned From Ohio State's 38-14 Win Over Penn State · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: coming up in the month of November. Number one, check
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  Speaker 1: it off the list.
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  Speaker 2: To do list it was. This was not a particularly difficult.
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  Speaker 1: One to cross off of the to do list either
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  Speaker 1: in a way that would have been shocking. Before the
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  Speaker 1: seasonal House State handles Penn State thirty eight to fourteen.
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  Speaker 1: I'm joined by Kevin noonpucke Huddle dot com.
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  Speaker 2: Kevin.
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  Speaker 1: This was a game where Old House State was really
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  Speaker 1: in control for basically fifty eight minutes or so. You
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  Speaker 1: had a couple of minutes where things got a little
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  Speaker 1: wonky right before halftime, and all of a sudden, Ohio
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  Speaker 1: State's going to the halftime with a three point lead
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  Speaker 1: instead of a much bigger lead.
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  Speaker 2: But it also felt.
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  Speaker 1: Like a game where you never once.
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  Speaker 2: Thought, oh boy, they might be in trouble here.
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  Speaker 3: No, but I did hear the voice of some of
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  Speaker 3: our subscribers over at Buckeye Huddle, it's Penn State. Weird
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  Speaker 3: things happen. Yes, there was a stretch of where Ohio
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  Speaker 3: State had to erase double digit leads and came back
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  Speaker 3: in won games by what point in each of them.
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  Speaker 3: You go back a couple of years prior to the
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  Speaker 3: game at Penn State where Ohio State had a field
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  Speaker 3: goal blocked. I mean, strange things happen, But the reality
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  Speaker 3: is is that this Penn State team is not a
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  Speaker 3: typical Penn State team. This Ohio State defense is pretty special.
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  Speaker 3: But I did hear the voices saying, see, see, this
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  Speaker 3: is the kind of stuff that happens when you have
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  Speaker 3: a fumble in your own deep in your own end,
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  Speaker 3: and what happens there. But yeah, even at seventeen fourteen,
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  Speaker 3: I at no point did I say, well, maybe I
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  Speaker 3: should start working on a can you believe what I
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  Speaker 3: just saw? Piece? That was never that was never in
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  Speaker 3: the equation.
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  Speaker 1: And one of the reasons was that Penn State really
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  Speaker 1: struggled to get anything going on offense, they ended up
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  Speaker 1: averaging three point three yards per play, which I will
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  Speaker 1: do the math for you. You can run three plays
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  Speaker 1: and average three point three yards per play and you
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  Speaker 1: don't get a first down. Even if you do that
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  Speaker 1: three times. It's it's just a little bit short. You
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  Speaker 1: have to have to bring out the sticks.
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  Speaker 2: But it was they couldn't, you know.
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  Speaker 1: They had a twenty six yard run on the first
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  Speaker 1: play of the game. They got the ball across midfield
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  Speaker 1: on the first snap of the game, and it was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: that's a little unexpected. And then that drive bog down
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  Speaker 1: and they punted in plus territory, which is a whole
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  Speaker 1: separate conversation, But then it just they never really got
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  Speaker 1: anything else moving on offense. Almost the entire game it
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  Speaker 1: was four plays thirty three yards punt, three plays seven
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  Speaker 1: yards punt.
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  Speaker 2: They had one touchdown.
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  Speaker 1: Drive fifteen plays seventy five yards, and then other than that,
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  Speaker 1: six place twelve yards punt. Then then the touchdown right
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  Speaker 1: after the turnover, where they it's a thirteen play, a
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  Speaker 1: thirteen yard drive, seven plays, sixteen yards punt, six plays
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  Speaker 1: two yards punt, three plays negative eleven yards punt, and
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  Speaker 1: then the last driver. They ended up with an interception,
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  Speaker 1: but at that point the game's functionally so it was
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  Speaker 1: you know, at that point it was a twenty four
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  Speaker 1: point game, and Ohio State is playing Zombie Nation, which
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  Speaker 1: is that is the official you know, the old Red
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  Speaker 1: hour Bach victory cigar. When Ohio State is playing your
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  Speaker 1: celebration song because you are getting dragged across the.
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  Speaker 2: Field, that is the Red hour Bac victory cigar. At
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  Speaker 2: this point, this was.
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  Speaker 1: Another really solid day for the Ohio State defense. But man,
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  Speaker 1: oh man, you had some real standouts here. Twelve tackles
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  Speaker 1: for our Valvares, eight tackles for Kate McDonald. This is
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  Speaker 1: just once again, you just look at this defense and
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  Speaker 1: you go, don't I don't know who deserves the credit
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  Speaker 1: because it feels like you could just kind of go, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: everyone's phenomenal.
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  Speaker 3: But I think people will gravitate toward the couple of plays,
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  Speaker 3: certainly the first play. There were a couple of plays
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  Speaker 3: at Penn State did have have that people will be like, see,
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  Speaker 3: not everything is you know, is perfect in Mudville, but
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  Speaker 3: uh yeah, twelve twelve tackles from Marvel where he's Kate
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  Speaker 3: McDonald with his eight I mean he nearly picked. He
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  Speaker 3: tried to pick up a ball that was on the ground,
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  Speaker 3: wasn't able. He should have fallen on it. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: maybe Ohio State would have been able to punch even
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  Speaker 3: one more in at this point. But betters were happy
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  Speaker 3: with the game. I don't I don't know where it
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  Speaker 3: was in terms of the total, but betters were happy
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  Speaker 3: with the outcome of the game. But yeah, again just
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  Speaker 3: the stark contrasts that everybody wanted to make this Matt
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  Speaker 3: Patricia versus Jim Knowles and what was there. But Matt
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  Speaker 3: Patricia was dealing with a deck that had a lot
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  Speaker 3: of aces in it, and Jim Knowles, you know, he
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  Speaker 3: had a lot of he had a lot of face
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  Speaker 3: cards in his deck, but not you know, not enough aces.
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  Speaker 3: And he busted.
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  Speaker 1: Out, Yeah, you're they're they're playing war, and it's like, well,
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  Speaker 1: one side has four aces and it's pretty hard to
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  Speaker 1: win if the other side.
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  Speaker 2: Has four aces.
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State four sacks on the game, seven tackles for loss.
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  Speaker 2: They really really controlled things up.
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  Speaker 1: Front and Penn State just never got anything going offensively.
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  Speaker 1: Really one point eight yards per carry. Now that is
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  Speaker 1: includes sacks, so that but the two running backs three
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  Speaker 1: point six yards per carry and three yards of carry,
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  Speaker 1: and outside of that first play, it was really about
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  Speaker 1: two point five yards per carry and three yards of carry.
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  Speaker 1: And the leading receiver had five receptions and twenty six yards.
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  Speaker 1: Unless you want to go with the guy that had
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  Speaker 1: fewer receptions but more yards, he had three receptions for
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  Speaker 1: twenty eight yards.
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  Speaker 2: So just there.
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  Speaker 1: It was really just sort of nothing there for Penn
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  Speaker 1: State throughout the game. And that's not surprising that you
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  Speaker 1: knew they were coming in sort of facing an uphill
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  Speaker 1: climb with a richert freshman quarterback and Ethan Grunckmeier, who
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  Speaker 1: was in there because Dureller had that season ending injury,
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  Speaker 1: but who stated to Penn State exactly what you should
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  Speaker 1: do to a team in that position.
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  Speaker 3: It was the bow constrictor, and they just started constricting
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  Speaker 3: and constricting and constricting. And the reality is is I
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  Speaker 3: do not know who to hold responsible at Penn State
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  Speaker 3: for their lack of wide receivers because they just and
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  Speaker 3: they go to the portal every year and this is
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  Speaker 3: going to be the guy well that did work, this
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  Speaker 3: is going to be the guy. Well this year, you know,
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  Speaker 3: they went and they got some guys that had you know,
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  Speaker 3: some pedigree at smaller stops and it just did not
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  Speaker 3: translate to Penn State. And again you lose Drew Allar
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  Speaker 3: and that's a problem. But Andy Colet and Nicky the
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  Speaker 3: offensive coordinator, I mean, he's probably feeling a lot of
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  Speaker 3: heat because this offense has been pretty mediocre to mediocre
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  Speaker 3: minus this season. Yes, congratulations, you put up twenty four
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  Speaker 3: as a team against Iowa last week in a twenty
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  Speaker 3: five to twenty four lost to the Hawkeyes. But you know,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think that Penn State knew that they knew
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  Speaker 3: they were going to come in here and if they
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  Speaker 3: gave up thirty eight to Ohio State that they were
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  Speaker 3: going to score thirty nine or more. That just wasn't
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  Speaker 3: going to be the case.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they were not going to win a shootout for sure.
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  Speaker 1: And one of the reasons is it's pretty hard to
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  Speaker 1: keep up with Ohio State. You know, Yeah, the Penn
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  Speaker 1: State offense wasn't going to be able to keep up
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  Speaker 1: with Ohio State. But it's hard for anyone to keep
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  Speaker 1: up with Ohio State because you know, we can we'll
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  Speaker 1: talk about the we will end with the bad vibes
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  Speaker 1: on the running game, but first let's hit the passing game,
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  Speaker 1: because Holy Moses, eighty seven percent completion for Julian sand
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  Speaker 1: twenty five twenty three, three hundred and sixteen yards, four touchdowns.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how many times you have a guy
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  Speaker 1: who throws more than twenty passes and throws more touchdowns
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  Speaker 1: than incompletions, but I'm going to guess, however many times
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  Speaker 1: it's happened in college football history, you probably win most
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  Speaker 1: of those games.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's a pretty positive thing. I mean, Ohio
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  Speaker 3: State runs, unless my math is wrong, fifty five plays
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  Speaker 3: on offense, fifty five plays we talked about, sixty sixty
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  Speaker 3: two whatever. I mean, they come in below that. But
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  Speaker 3: Julian saying eighty seven percent completion percentage, four touchdowns, three incompletions.
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  Speaker 3: I probably have an easier time going over the three
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  Speaker 3: incompletions than I do the four touchdowns, just based on
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  Speaker 3: what you remember, because I think you're more shocked when
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  Speaker 3: there is an incomplete pass and whether or not it's
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  Speaker 3: a throwaway or if it's just something that didn't you
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  Speaker 3: know you're going back shoulder and it just doesn't work
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  Speaker 3: or whatever. But Julian saying needs to be a serious
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  Speaker 3: heisman candidate at this point. And you know, I know
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  Speaker 3: that there are people that think that the university should
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  Speaker 3: have freezer magnets and should have bobbleheads and everything else,
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  Speaker 3: and that's just generated.
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  Speaker 2: It's still nineteen ninety six.
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  Speaker 3: Well that was That's what I was just about to say,
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  Speaker 3: that's not how things work. Now I have an awesome
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  Speaker 3: bobblehead of Ed Oliver that the University of Houston sent out,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm not winner at all. Well exactly, And I'm
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  Speaker 3: not even a Heisman voter. I do vote on several
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  Speaker 3: other votes, but I don't. I don't have a Heisman vote.
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  Speaker 3: I'm still salty about that one, but it is what
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  Speaker 3: it is. But Julian Saying needs to be considered a
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  Speaker 3: Heisman candidate. I mean not only a candidate, but I
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  Speaker 3: think that he needs to be in that that top
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  Speaker 3: cut of candidates.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know you mentioned the three incompletions. I
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  Speaker 1: think at least one or two of those were kind
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  Speaker 1: of throwaways based on you know, hey, there's no one open,
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  Speaker 1: so that's something is you're looking in the film room.
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  Speaker 2: It's not just it's an incompletion, it's that.
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  Speaker 1: Was probably the right decision on this play and you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe his worst throw of the day was a touchdown,
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  Speaker 1: and that was a touchdown to Jeremiah Smith where it
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  Speaker 1: was kind of I think it was behind him Jeremiah
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  Speaker 1: a little bit and the you know, very well could
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  Speaker 1: have been a safety. Jeremiah actually talked about that in
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  Speaker 1: the postgame interview that he saved saved Julian Sands Bacon
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  Speaker 1: a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: And it is guys back because if you throw, if
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  Speaker 3: you throw a pick, you can't be grated out as
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  Speaker 3: a champion. So he wanted to make sure that his
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  Speaker 3: guy was okay. So he you know, whatever, whatever, whatever
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  Speaker 3: more than one hundred percent effort from Jeremiah Smith is
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  Speaker 3: I think I think we could heat the world with
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  Speaker 3: whatever one hundred percent of you know, one hundred and
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  Speaker 3: ten percent of his reactor is. But he did what
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  Speaker 3: he needed to do.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like going back one handed, kind of reaching behind
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  Speaker 1: himself almost it was a It was even by the
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  Speaker 1: standards of Jeremiah Smith. It was a notable catch certainly.
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  Speaker 1: So the passing offense is what the passing offense is.
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  Speaker 1: They just kind of keep rolling and it is you know, again,
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  Speaker 1: eighty seven percent completions four three hundred and sixteen yards,
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  Speaker 1: four touchdowns, no picks, no further questions, your honor.
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  Speaker 2: As far as the rushing game, it.
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  Speaker 1: Was okay, this is a Penn State team that really
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  Speaker 1: struggled to stop the run against Iowa. Iowa, I think
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  Speaker 1: was maybe a little more consistent with the running game
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  Speaker 1: than Ohio State was, where yeah, Bo Jackson finishes at
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  Speaker 1: eight point one yards per carry, skewed a little bit
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  Speaker 1: by the fifty one yard or but Ohio State really
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  Speaker 1: continues outside of that, continues to not really be able
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  Speaker 1: to hit the explosives. They were just kind of consistent.
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  Speaker 1: It was, you know, four point eight yards per carry
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  Speaker 1: for James People's two point four for CJ. Donaldson, but
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  Speaker 1: he was in there in a lot of short yardage stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Isaiah West four carries for thirteen yards. But it was
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  Speaker 1: just it was just kind of steady but unspectacular for
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  Speaker 1: the most part.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean that is that good enough.
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  Speaker 3: Iowa ran the ball well, because Iowa has to run
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  Speaker 3: the ball or it has nothing. I mean, obviously Ohio
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  Speaker 3: State has its passing offense, but Ohio State is going
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  Speaker 3: to need to be able to run the ball. We
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  Speaker 3: are in November, it was it was sub forty as
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  Speaker 3: I was walking from my car to the stadium. But
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  Speaker 3: when I was down on the field in the fourth quarter,
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  Speaker 3: I had left my jacket in the in the media
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  Speaker 3: room because I didn't need it. But you're going to
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  Speaker 3: have to figure some of these things out. You know.
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  Speaker 3: We see times where maybe the blocking scheme isn't there.
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  Speaker 3: We see times where the running backs just run to contact.
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  Speaker 3: I think we just see times of where teams just
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  Speaker 3: make plays against Ohio State for whatever reason. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: I've I've had people's like, well, the line just isn't
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  Speaker 3: as good as it was last year. Well, let's let's
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  Speaker 3: not forget first and foremost, the line last year was
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  Speaker 3: pretty special. Second, you know, secondly, you had two guys
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  Speaker 3: that are like NFL backs now with quin Shawn Jutkins
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  Speaker 3: and Trevion Henderson running the ball.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not.
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  Speaker 3: Taking anything away from any of the backs that that
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  Speaker 3: are in the rotation for Ohio State right now, but
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  Speaker 3: it's just it's just not working at this point. And
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  Speaker 3: you got a couple of weeks left in the laboratory
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  Speaker 3: because the next three games are not necessarily going to
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  Speaker 3: be what I would consider air quotes high leverage, So
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  Speaker 3: you got to you gotta get figured out before you
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  Speaker 3: go to Ann Arbor.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't.
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  Speaker 1: Right, You're not gonna hear Ryan Day talking about Purdue
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  Speaker 1: or Ucla or Rutgers as matchup games the way he
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  Speaker 1: did about Penn State. Ohio State very clearly could have
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  Speaker 1: taken Penn State lightly and looked at a four.
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  Speaker 2: Game losing streak and gone, ah, come on.
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  Speaker 1: They very clearly took Penn State seriously, handled their business.
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  Speaker 1: And now you've got at Purdue, home for Ucla, home
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  Speaker 1: for Rutgers, and then the team up north. As they say,
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  Speaker 1: twenty seven days away. Can't believe it less than less
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  Speaker 1: than a month, and that game's gonna be happening.
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  Speaker 2: So and after that, well we'll see.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a boy, oh boy. Could be a fascinating,
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  Speaker 1: fascinating end of the season for Ohio State because there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of opportunities on the table
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  Speaker 1: for this team if they can continue to handle their business.
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  Speaker 1: They definitely did on Saturday in the Horseshoe thirty eight
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  Speaker 1: fourteen over Penn State to improve.
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  Speaker 2: To eight and oh on the year.
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  Speaker 1: We will have plenty more to talk about from this
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  Speaker 1: game in the next couple days we'll have a full
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  Speaker 1: breakdown of that, and then next week head on the
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  Speaker 2: That will do it for today. Thank you guys all
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  Speaker 2: for joining us. Have a great day. We'll talk to
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