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EP 60: Winners & Losers of the 2026 NFL Draft! · 3 Guys, 6 Balls NFL Podcast

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3 lifelong friends, 6 trusty balls and endless NFL takes.
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Welcome to three guys 6 Balls NFL podcast.
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Welcome to episode 60 of Three guys 6 balls NFL Podcast.
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I'm your host Joel and I'm here with my two Co host Will and
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Avery. The 2026 NFL draft is officially
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over and so today we're going to share our thoughts on who the
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NFL draft winners and losers were.
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But before we do that, we have to wish Avery a happy birthday.
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His birthday is this week and so for a whole 8 days he will be
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the old man of the group. How does it feel to be turning
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33, Avery? Feels good and it feels good to
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be doing this podcast with my two kids, my two sons, my two
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baby boys. Are you ready to sing?
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It's harder to. Wake up.
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I certainly could. All right, go for it.
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Just you. Don't.
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The two quality podcast concert right there.
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All right, happy birthday to you in post.
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Oh, yeah, Yeah. All right, well, let's get into
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some of our thoughts from the NFL draft before we do the
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winners and losers. Do either of you guys have any
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thoughts just about the draft in general, whether it's something
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that surprised you, something that you thought would happen
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that did happen? It could be anything.
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Everything I thought was going to happen, happened.
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Not everything, everything, obviously, but like I, I took a
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victory lap. Just Germont McCoy didn't go
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until day three. Wow, weird.
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Weird how the guy who hasn't played football in a year and a
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half didn't get drafted high, who has actively chosen not to
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perform at full speed. He didn't do things that his pro
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day, but it wasn't that full speed nor did it work very
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clean. And then he got, I want to say
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punished for that, but he treated appropriately for that.
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But around 4 pick one, I think he's the first guy off the board
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in day three. Congratulations for him.
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What else did we do? I think was going to happen.
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That happened. It was the Rams.
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How about that one? So as I said right here on this
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show, I just sit in the pocket, keep pick 13 pick Ty Simpson
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draft for the future. And guess what happened exactly
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that. Now I know we you guys had some
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absolute, absolute winners of like this is what should happen.
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And then it happened. We had we had some good takes on
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this show after the fact, looking back at our draft recap,
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stir our draft projection stuff, feel like we did a good job.
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Turns out we do know Ball after all.
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Avery, do you have any thoughts? No, I thought it was.
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I mean, I didn't think there were many surprises at all.
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Honestly. I don't know if that's just a
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testament to how thoroughly we went over the draft prospects
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and potential outcomes, but I was just in my mind thinking it
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would there would be a lot more trades or just wild picks, but
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there weren't. I mean, I guess part of that is
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usually when that stuff happens, there's some polarizing
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quarterback candidate, you know, some Johnny Menzel, Shudor
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Sanders type stuff going on. But we didn't have that this
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year. So maybe that's kind of the
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catalyst that a draft needs to have some wild stuff happen.
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I just don't think that I can ever really trust anything that
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these like professional reporters ever say again,
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because, and I think I texted this to you guys like the draft
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didn't go like that at all. Like they say they talk to all
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these teams and these teams are going to draft this guy and that
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team's going to draft that guy. But it didn't go like that at
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all. Like you've got everybody
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thought the Giants were going to draft Sonny Styles and then they
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end up drafting Arvel Reese instead.
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And then just everything from there, like who thought Kenyan
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Sadiq was going to The Jets? Not one person, not one person.
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So like everything these guys say, like they're informed, but
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then they're not really informed because what they say doesn't
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actually happen, so. Well, I have a feeling that, and
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again, I'm not in any of these rooms, but I have a feeling that
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there is a lot less. I don't, I don't want to say
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intentionality with these picks. I think there's a lot of teams
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that have owners or up or higher, just basically up the
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food chain, people that are making picks on a whim or gut
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call. You know, I'm just imagining
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some sort of Jerry Jones kind of thing.
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At least with him, he would kind of know who he wants the whole
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time. But you know, maybe a coach
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wanting a certain player and then the last minute the owner
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being like, Nah, I'm making an executive decision.
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We're taking this guy and then there's just some, you know that
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it is what it is. It's not like these are all
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just, you know, analytics. You got AWS drafting these, you
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know, these players, you know, these are humans, ego driven
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humans. So I think, you know, I, I, I do
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think the experts can have a pretty good read on like what a
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team should do, but there is also just that element of like,
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you know, luck. You don't know how these players
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are going to turn out. And so, you know, there is, you
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know, you are rolling the dice regardless.
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But yeah, there's, there's some, there's, there's people, and
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people aren't always smart or rational, so.
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True. All right, so now what I want to
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do is I want to talk about our team specifically to get things
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started here. And for this I thought it would
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be good to see what thoughts myself and Avery have about the
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Rams draft and then see how that compares to Will's thoughts.
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And then get Will's thoughts on the Buccaneers draft and then
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see how that compares to some of the thoughts that Avery and I
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have. So Will why don't you go first
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on this one? From a non Buccaneers fan, what
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do you think about the Buccaneers draft?
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I think they got good value for the people they got when they
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got them. I know this show also, I
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probably should say I've had no voice since Thursday, so it it
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comes and go. So just bear with me here.
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I know this show specifically has not been very high on Ruben
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Bain beginning the guy who at one point in this draft process
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was the was like the number. He was like, oh, this guy's
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number one pick hit Francis or Francis Francisco.
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If now I can't think he was actually named Fernando Mendoza.
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If he was not there, Ruben Bay would be #1 by far, no question.
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And as the process went on there, well, he's kind of got
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baby arms. Well, he's kind of got this well
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that. But still, he was regularly
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projected in the top 10 or to to Miami at 11 when they had 11
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still. And so for him to fall all the
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way to 15, I feel like that's really good value if nothing
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else for the Buccaneers, because that's kind of a spot where
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you're damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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I think that's all. Sorry, Dwayne, but I don't
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really that's the same. He knows what I mean.
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And so it's one of those you can't really trade out of it.
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You could have, but like where? What are you expecting to get
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out of it? It's a mid first round pick.
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Those are significantly less value than even like a big 10.
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And so drafting the best value guy, I like that a lot less
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needs they they had only now I was actually expecting them to
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go tight ends still with Sadiq still on the board there at 15.
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I I did actually think Sadiq was going there, but with Bain
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sitting there too, it's like, well, this guy, he was he's
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quite proven in college. He just doesn't have the NFL
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physical traits. So we'll see what we can do.
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So I don't I don't hate that. I kind of wish that he got tight
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end a bit sooner because it is one of their high needs.
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But you know, the Rams got off the tight ends, all of them.
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They just drafted every single time and it was unlatable.
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So I don't know that much about the the way that the players
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that were lost anything like that.
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No Mike Evans, but still, you had a good crew of wide
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receivers anyway. You also drafted the Georgia
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State receiver in the third round.
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So it's not like you didn't backfill needs.
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It's just a wait and see now. You did the best you could and
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put you had in the position you were in.
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Avery, do you want to go first or you want me to go first?
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I'll talk about what I thought about the Rams.
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No, no, no, no, no. What?
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What do you think about the Buccaneers draft?
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No, I want to talk about the No, I I thought it was good,
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honestly. I mean, there's other picks that
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I would have made, but also that was coming from a very, very
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biased, you know, point of view. Honestly.
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I do think that Ruben Bane, as much as we kind of harped on
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him, I think we were also talking from a position of, you
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know, him being, you know, like a top five pick.
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I think it kind of the same thing.
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I kind of see him the same way as kind of David Bailey where
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it's I just I I see them as very similar as far as just how if I
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would want them and I wouldn't really.
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But at that pick at 15, honestly I'm fine with it and it is
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probably what they need more than Kenyan Sidique anyways.
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I really like Josiah Trotter, Kiante Scott, Ted Hurst, I think
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those are all great picks. Honestly.
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There were other guys that I thought they could have gone
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with, but I don't think they messed up any of these picks.
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I think they could all work out really well.
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So overall I'm pretty happy. Yeah, I thought the Buccaneers
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had a really, really, really good draft.
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I admittedly wasn't the biggest fan of Ruben Bane throughout the
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draft process, but it's mostly because of the short arms thing.
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And I'm a statistical guy and so statistics like that, I just
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tend to believe that stuff because that's just the way that
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my mind works. But I actually think that Ruben
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Bayne is the perfect player for the Buccaneers.
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They got him with the 15th overall pick and getting the guy
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who many people had as the number one player in the draft
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of the 15th pick is incredible value on top of the value.
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They got a player out of position that was their biggest
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need heading into the draft. And then on top of addressing
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their biggest need, he fit what the Buccaneers said they wanted
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to do going into this draft, which was being more physical
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and violent on defense. And the physicality for Ruben
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Bayne was never the question. The Bucks wanted to change the
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attitude of their defense and drafting Ruben Bayne was the
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perfect way to start doing that and to make the pick even
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better. I didn't realize that Ruben
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Bayne had the perfect name to be a Tampa Bayne Buccaneer.
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It's destiny that he ended up with the Bucks.
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It's destiny. Man, that is the fastest homers
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flop I've ever heard. I hate this guy.
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You can't hug. Oh, he's on my team.
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We drafted. I love this guy.
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I loved him from the start. He's my boy.
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That's. What?
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That's what people do. What you're.
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Supposed to do, yeah. I disagree with you though.
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Anyways, just to to go back to their plan to be more physical
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and violent on defense and to go through some of the rest of
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these guys. They didn't just do it with
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Ruben Bayne, they did it with every defensive player that they
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drafted. So every single defensive player
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the Buccaneers drafted fit exactly what they said they
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wanted to do going into this draft.
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So they got Ruben Bayne. They got Josiah Trotter, who is
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an old school physical downhill run stopping linebacker who
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plays with a violent attitude that they were looking for.
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Then Kiante Scott who is team mates with Ruben Bayne at Miami.
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They paired them together and I think that's going to be really,
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really good for this defense. There were times where Miami
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would put Ruben Bayne on one side of the defensive line by
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himself with Kiante Scott at corner, and they dared teams to
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run at that side. They said go ahead, run over
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here. And when teams did it, it didn't
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go well for those teams because both Ruben Bayne and Kiante
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Scott are very, very good run defenders.
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The Buccaneers looked at that film and they said we didn't
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have anyone who could do that last year, so let's draft these
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guys together because they were the 2 best guys doing it
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together in college football last season.
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And then they drafted defensive tackle Demonte Capehart in the
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fifth round, which I think is going to be a great addition for
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the defensive line. His numbers don't jump off the
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page, but anyone who's judging that pick simply based off of
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his stats, I would highly encourage you to go back and
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watch the film of this guy. K Bart is a big physical
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interior defensive lineman with really good athletic profile and
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putting him in a rotation with Vida via a Sean Robinson, Kalija
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Kancy, plus having guys like Ruben Bain, Josiah Trotter, Alex
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and Zaloni, Alcudin Mohammed and Yaya Daabi.
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This front 7 is going to be a lot different than it was last
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year. It's going to bring a much
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different attitude than this defense had last year, which is
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really good because last year this defense was really bad.
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And so just all these changes that they made, the attitude is
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different, the physicality is different, They're more violent
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on defense. It's going to look a lot
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different than it did last year. And so to me, what they did
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specifically defensively in this draft, I think was an A+.
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Love it. Well, let's move over to the
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Rams. Avery, do you want to start on
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this one? Give us some thoughts on the
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Rams draft? Yeah, I.
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Maybe this is misplaced trust, but I am buying into that online
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narrative that McVeigh did not want Ty Simpson.
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And he did not at all. And I was, I was on the fence
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about it. But what really solidified my
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belief that he did not want Ty Simpson was the following press
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conference where he tried to walk it back or just say like,
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no, do you think I'm mad? Like, no, we're good buddies.
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We're. This is all great.
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This is just my demeanor, like, OK, yeah, He he did not want,
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no. Did you know he also, he also
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went on with Peter Schrager and I don't remember who else was on
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there during day three of the draft.
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And they were talking to Sean McVay at some point during day
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three. And he they basically asked him
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the same question. Like you were visibly upset when
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that happened and they were asking about it like what was
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going through your mind? What was going on?
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And he basically said the exact same thing in a nicer way.
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Yeah, I. He he didn't want Ty Simpson at
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all. The thing is, is I.
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Phone call is is that where where are we touching on?
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Is a phone. Call when.
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Les Schneed handed him the phone.
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No, that's, I mean, I guess that's part of it, but that's
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not the actual reason. It's the actual press conference
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where he's just, I mean, you could see him visibly
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uncomfortable and frustrated. And the and The thing is, it
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would be one thing if it was like, oh, I'm just trying to
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read his body language. But it's like, OK, like I'm
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getting a little ahead of myself here.
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But I have them. I have the Rams as one of my
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losers of the draft for this one pick for this reason.
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And the second one, you're tied in your 6th tight end.
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I just feel like, OK, I thought the Rams were in win it now mode
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like K, Matt Stafford just won the MVP.
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You really do realistically have at least another two years with
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Stafford unless he just wants to hang it up and be a family man.
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But you are in win it now mode and for your first pick, 13
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picks in, you go with a backup quarterback.
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I just, I feel like, K, are we it, it feels like we're trying
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to have our cake cake and eat it too.
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Like are we trying to rebuild for the future?
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We trying to win it now. Like what is it?
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And it feels like the front office and the coaches aren't on
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the same page. It feels like there is just
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some, some stretching, some pulling going on there.
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Just different, I don't know, different intentions, different
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motivations, different directions.
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It just, I don't, I, I thought that was such a waste of a peg,
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even though we'll called it and he saw it coming.
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I just feel like, dude, a backup quarterback right now.
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Right now. We went with a backup
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quarterback talking about practice.
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I didn't like it at all. Joel, go ahead.
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So I agree with Avery, but I also disagree with Avery.
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I think the Rams are both winners and losers of the NFL
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draft. I think they're losers because
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they had this luxury pick where they could have selected whoever
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they felt like was the best available player and add them to
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a roster that is built to compete right now for the Super
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Bowl. But instead they drafted Ty
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Simpson, who best case scenario doesn't play one single snap for
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the Rams this year. Before the draft, you had Rams
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fans talking about Mackay, Lemon, Jordan, Tyson, Kenyon,
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Sadiq, adding those guys to a stacked offense and imagining
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all the possibilities that came with that.
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And it just came out to be a quarterback who's going to sit
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and do nothing for at least a year.
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Sean McVay was visibly upset, obviously upset with the pic
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because he wanted more firepower.
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He's focused on winning the Super Bowl this year.
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Right now. He doesn't care about next year.
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He cares about winning right now.
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And Ty Simpson doesn't help him do that.
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So throw that in with them adding their 37th tied end to
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the roster, and it just doesn't make sense for winning right
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now. However, I think the Rams also
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are winners because they made moves that help them in the
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future. Drafting Ty Simpson doesn't help
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you now, but it will help you down the road when you don't
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have Matthew Stafford anymore. Drafting Max Claire may not make
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sense now, but it does make sense for the future because the
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Rams have a couple of tight end contracts that expire after this
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season and the tight end position in Mcveigh's offense is
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not easy to learn. Just look at how long it took
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Terrence Ferguson to get on the field last year.
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So drafting Claire allows them to let him sit and learn and
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then come in next year when he knows how to play in that
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offense. And then drafting a 25 year old
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offensive tackle may not look good to some people because he's
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25. But the Rams have several
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offensive line contracts that are up at the end of this
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season, and now they have a guy who can step in and be a starter
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for them right away when a spot opens for him.
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So based off how you look at it, I think the Rams can be seen as
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both winners and losers of the draft.
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Just losers will go ahead. It's.
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My turn now. It's my turn now.
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I understand both sides of that argument.
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It would have would have been nice to have say Makai Lemon.
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Sure. If Makai Lemon or any other
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starting receiver or first round receiver you get, the best case
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scenario is you get your #3 receiver on your team, right?
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That's best case scenario because you still have new cool
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and you still have Devonte Adams.
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So you are either drafting a #3 receiver who maybe they will,
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maybe they won't pan out or you're drafting a backup
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quarterback to learn under the current best quarterback in NFL,
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right? And William VP in that position
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maybe the best in that position, it's arguable.
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Changes every year. It does change every year,
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right? I don't disagree with that.
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So you draft the guy to come in and sit behind and learn.
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Do you hit it right in the head with the fact that they've got
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2? I think we're going to my depth
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chart here. I think it is Parkinson and
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Higbee both their contracts are up at the end of this year and
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they're I don't think they re sign them.
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They just let him walk. And so you still have Ferguson
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and you and then you bring in Max Claire to learn the system.
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And now you've got you got your Higbee and Parkinson next year
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as Claire and Ferguson. So you've got your pieces and
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this roster they had last year, now that not every piece of that
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roster they had last year came back.
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Obviously that's not the way. That's not the way that works in
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professional sports. The drafts they had last year
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was a few plays away from making the Super Bowl.
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And I think whoever, whatever NFC team goes to that Super Bowl
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ends up winning it. And So what they did is instead
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of having to to fill those needs in the draft, they went in a
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free agency and then fill them there with Jenna Watson and
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Trent Mcduffie. And so they were able to say,
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hey, let's actually draft for the future.
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We have the team, they got us a few plays away last year.
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Let's make moves so we don't just get back next year because
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we're already going to do that. Let's make moves to make sure we
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can get back in three years. Let's make sure we make can make
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moves so we can get back in five years.
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And so they haven't seemed to win right now.
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They already had that before they walked into the draft
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making the trades. They only made what, 5 picks, 6
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picks, 12345. They made 5 picks.
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And with that, they got the quarterback in the future.
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They got their Next up tight end.
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They got the highest graded offensive tackle in all of
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college about last year. He's just 25.
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So we slipped all the way to the third round.
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They got a receiver who made Carson Beckman look good.
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So let's just go ahead and remember that.
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And then they got Tim Keenan in the seventh round and that was a
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good thing. That is a good thing.
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He's just he himself is a bit undersized and so we'll see what
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happens. He's not a.
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He's not a numbers guy. He's a do The Dirty work kind of
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guy. And in the seventh round, that's
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exactly the guy you want. You and the guy who's going to
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come out there and challenge your starting squad every single
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day in practice and make them better.
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I love what the Rams did the same way as you loves what the
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Bucks did. I love it so much.
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Yeah, I know. I'm high on life right now,
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right. Every team should be doing this.
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Every single team should be doing this.
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I would imagine Minnesota Vikings fans are jumping on
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couches Tom Cruise style. Overcame the banks right now.
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We got to go. I we got him.
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This is so great. Well, maybe not all of them, but
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some of them are for sure doing that.
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We'll get his foot fixed. It could be the best defensive
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tackle there is. I would expect everyone to be
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doing that. Joel's over here.
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Short arms. Who cares?
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Who cares about his short arms? He plays physical, whatever,
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doesn't matter. So I don't know.
20:51
I'm, I'm real positive about it. I'm really happy about it.
20:54
All right, well, let's talk about some teams who aren't our
20:56
teams that we feel won and lost the NFL draft.
20:59
And so we'll start with the winners who would like to go
21:02
first. I'll.
21:03
Go first, let's see which one. I didn't rank them.
21:08
I'm talking about there are two teams that I picked that I did
21:12
not want to pick for my winners. But then I saw who they picked
21:16
and I'm like, OK is. One of them the Eagles.
21:20
Is what isn't The Jets? OK, why don't you guys stop
21:23
trying to get spoilers here? Is that really who they are?
21:28
No, Philadelphia. Philadelphia would.
21:31
They would have been my 4th winner.
21:34
I really liked what they did. Yes, one of them is The Jets.
21:38
I have them on my list as. Well I also I also have them on
21:41
my it makes. Me so mad because it's The Jets
21:44
and they're just going to fumble it the entire time.
21:47
OK, then I'll pick a different team right now.
21:49
One of you guys talk about them. This is this is a wild 1.
21:51
I don't think any of you have it.
21:53
Who is it? The Tennessee Titans.
21:57
Oh. I really liked their picks.
22:02
I thought Carnell Tate, even though he was the second option
22:05
on his college team, went off the board 4th.
22:09
But so was Jackson Smith and Jigpa.
22:12
It was also the second option. Carnell Tate.
22:15
I like that they gave Cam Ward another option.
22:18
I've always liked Keldrick Falk. I thought that was pretty sweet
22:23
that he they were able to get him at the bottom of the first
22:26
round. That was great.
22:27
Anthony Hill, Junior still around got him.
22:32
I don't they got some great pieces there.
22:33
They got another guard out of Arkansas.
22:36
Basically every every time I saw them pick, I thought it was
22:38
great. We will see how these picks pan
22:40
out. I guess that Carnell Tate, I
22:43
mean, he'll really need to really show out to show if that
22:48
was actually good value or not because the 4th pick is a is
22:52
mighty high. But I really liked, I really
22:56
liked what they did. Yeah, I like Carnell Tate a lot,
22:59
but I didn't think he was good enough to be the 4th overall
23:02
pick in the draft. That's my only thing.
23:03
I like him, but I don't think it was good value to pick him at #4
23:08
because there was still a lot of really good defensive players on
23:10
the board at that point. So I don't know if it was the
23:13
right pick. I get they need a receiver, but
23:15
I don't know if let's just say that's not the way that I would
23:18
have gone if it was me. I also I realized like hey if
23:21
Carnell take goes at 4 does that mean that Jeremiah Smith is a
23:24
lock top three pick? He has to be right.
23:27
Oh, he's locked. Number he's locked #2 pick in my
23:30
opinion. Like top two who I mean or are
23:33
you saying I'm sure or do you know who someone who'd be 1A
23:36
quarterback? I'm some.
23:37
Quarterback, I'm sure somebody's going to draft Dante Moore #2
23:41
and make a stupid decision. But yeah, if it was me, I don't
23:45
think I'm taking a quarterback. Just looking at which
23:48
quarterbacks are in the 2027 draft.
23:50
I don't think I'm. Taking a quarterback at #2 like
23:53
the number one pick is going to be a quarterback, but if I'm at
23:56
#2 I'm not taking the quarterback.
23:59
No, Yeah, yeah. And.
24:00
Maybe that could change based off of how the quarterbacks play
24:02
this next season, but just as of right now at #2 I would not take
24:06
a quarterback, I would take Jeremiah Smith.
24:08
Yeah. Basically though.
24:10
Going back to Tennessee, I thought I felt like Keldrick
24:12
Falk and Anthony Hill Junior were both should have been first
24:16
round guys. So the fact that they were able
24:18
to get both of them essentially after the first round, I mean, I
24:22
know the, you know, 31st peg, I mean, that's basically the end
24:25
of the first round anyways. But I really like both those
24:28
guys. I was surprised they got them.
24:30
Good for them, good for them. All right, Will, who do you have
24:34
as an NFL draft winner? I will take The Jets.
24:37
The only thing I would do differently about The Jets draft
24:39
is more secondary because they had 0 interceptions last year as
24:43
a whole team. Zero.
24:44
And that's really bad. And you just traded away Sauce
24:46
Gardner and your defense didn't get better, your team didn't get
24:49
better. I like what they did overall.
24:51
David Bailey bringing in are going to be the best edge rusher
24:53
in the draft into your team, getting him in there to make a
24:57
difference and hopefully that way your secondary doesn't have
25:00
to cover as long. Getting Siddiq in the first
25:02
round, bringing back in the Omar Cooper in the first round and
25:05
then not that deep into the second round.
25:07
You're looking at the end of their pawns.
25:09
I really like that they went out and they addressed heavy needs
25:12
and that Aaron Glenn is his name is that's the coach I can I can
25:17
remember things. Aaron Lynn went out there and
25:19
said, hey, look, I may have been sleeping during the combine, but
25:22
my opinion didn't matter anyway. I was like waiting for my scouts
25:24
anyway. And so they drafted all these
25:27
guys and Aaron Clinton's always had a good defense.
25:29
And so they went out there a bunch of offensive guys with
25:31
their with their second pick, their third pick and their
25:35
second fourth round pick have some offensive line help as well
25:38
in the end there. But they didn't leave the
25:39
defense alone. The hey, let's keep making this
25:41
better as well. I think they drafted really well
25:44
for their team needs and then the showcase.
25:47
Truly, I think the best part to me is then making moves to get
25:51
back into the first round. Hey, let's go get another guy.
25:54
Let's get another guy. He's get 3 picks in the first
25:56
round and should do our thing and and get all of the picks.
26:00
I thought that was great for them.
26:01
It really should be a large amount of hope for the future of
26:06
their team. There's like, hey, we're trying.
26:09
We're actually trying to be better.
26:11
Yeah, it just feels weird to say that The Jets were winners of
26:14
the draft. But I think The Jets were
26:16
winners of the draft because I felt like The Jets did a really
26:18
good job of building their team so that next year when they most
26:22
likely select a quarterback, they might actually have a team
26:25
that can support a rookie quarterback.
26:27
And on top of that, they've already set themselves up to
26:30
have a really good 2027 draft because they already have 3
26:33
first round picks. The trajectory of The Jets has
26:35
been going down for like 15 years, but I think it's finally
26:39
starting to go back up. It just seems a little bit
26:42
different than what we've seen from The Jets teams in the past.
26:46
And you know, maybe when they get out on the field, it's still
26:49
the same. Maybe it's still the same as it
26:51
has been because you've got Geno Smith's quarterback, but it just
26:54
feels like The Jets made moves that can actually put them in a
26:58
position in the future to win once they get the right
27:01
quarterback. They're not going to put a
27:02
quarterback in a situation now with a just a absolutely garbage
27:07
team. It feels like this team could
27:09
actually support a rookie quarterback, especially after
27:12
they draft 1 and have two additional picks in next year's
27:15
draft. So I really, really like what
27:17
The Jets did. With all that being said, if
27:19
you're a Jets fan, expect another five win season, 4 win
27:23
season. Yeah, you should still expect
27:26
it. You're.
27:27
Bringing Geno Smith this year. Geno Smith is fine, but the
27:32
Raiders finished with the number one pick this year.
27:34
Let's not discount that. So don't think that this draft
27:39
is going to change the immediate trajectory of your future.
27:43
Your team is still going to be bad.
27:45
Yes, I agree. But I like, I like where they're
27:48
headed though. I like where they're headed.
27:50
All right, so for my winner of the draft, I'm going to go with
27:53
an individual player as a winner of the draft.
27:56
My biggest individual, No, not TA Simpson.
28:00
My biggest individual winner of the draft is Kaden McDonald.
28:04
He was invited to be in the green room, but then he didn't
28:07
get picked in the first round. Well, the commissioner invited
28:09
him back to the green room for Day 2 and instead of getting
28:12
upset that he wasn't a first round pick, he handled it like a
28:15
true professional and he came back to the green room to hear
28:18
his name called on Day 2 when the Texans selected him.
28:21
You could just tell how grateful he was to be a part of the NFL.
28:25
He's crying in the green room. He's crying walking down the
28:27
tunnel. He's crying while he hugs the
28:29
commissioner. And you know, a lot of players
28:31
do that. But then after that, he went
28:33
down where the Texans fans were in the crowd and he started
28:36
celebrating with them. They were cheering.
28:38
They were jumping up and down. And it was just a cool moment to
28:41
see. The Texans fans already love
28:43
this guy, and when they see what he's going to do for their
28:45
defense, they're going to love him even more.
28:47
The Texans added a great player, and I think he's also a great
28:50
person. I already thought Kate McDonald
28:52
was great when I watched him on film, and then I thought he was
28:55
even better when he commented on our Instagram post.
28:57
And now I think he's one of my favorite players in the entire
28:59
league. And he hasn't even played a snap
29:00
yet. So I think Kate McDonald is the
29:04
best individual winner of the 2026 NFL Draft.
29:08
Well, for any NFL player who's watching, if it's not abundantly
29:13
clear what you have to do to your biggest fan.
29:21
I just comment on the post. That's all you got to do.
29:24
And literally this is all it was.
29:25
It was just this. All you have to do is just post
29:27
an emoji. Just comment to an emoji and
29:29
I'll love you. I was shocked when Kayla Banks
29:31
was drafted by the by the Vikings and Kate McDonald was
29:35
still on the board. And then Peter Woods went to the
29:38
Chiefs and Kate McDonald was still on the board.
29:40
I was like, what are we doing? Why are we not taking the best
29:42
available guy? Why do we draft the other
29:44
people? I mean, what what is going on
29:46
here? Caleb Banks isn't even going to
29:47
be able to play this year and he broke his foot during the
29:50
combine. Like what, What is happening?
29:53
What are we doing? But yeah, I think it was great.
29:55
Him, him falling to day 2 was a travesty.
29:57
But I, I love the positive outlook of it.
30:00
Now, historically, I do want my defensive tackles to be a bit
30:05
more gritty, be a bit more rugged.
30:08
But you know what? The, the immediate excitement
30:11
and the ready to work attitude there.
30:13
I, I, I agree with you. I loved it a lot.
30:15
You also. Want your defensive tackles to
30:17
get 60 plus tackles in a season? So there's that.
30:22
All right, Avery, take us through another winner.
30:24
I got the Browns. For the second year in a row.
30:27
Did I give them last time too? Oh, yeah, we had them.
30:31
Now that I'm thinking about who they had, yeah.
30:34
I mean, hey, you can keep, you can be back-to-back winners in
30:37
the draft and just never win anything in the regular season.
30:42
You couldn't. You can.
30:42
It's always allowed. No, I thought, I thought getting
30:46
Spencer Fano, Fano was favorite guy.
30:51
Yeah, I thought it was a solid pick, but I thought being able
30:55
to grab KC and Denzel, that's going to be a fun duo to watch
31:00
with whoever they got at quarterback.
31:02
But I thought having 10 picks in general was a lot of fun.
31:06
I'd I feel like in general, it's just fun to watch a team draft
31:09
any time I play franchise mode or well, really just franchise
31:13
mode, I guess. I always love having a lot of
31:15
picks and they got some fun players.
31:18
I think the Browns are doing Browns things, picking up some
31:21
exciting players and it will translate to, you know, Real
31:26
Housewives of Cleveland in the fall.
31:28
So I'm very excited. They also drafted Justin
31:32
Jefferson, so there's that. It's a big win.
31:35
They did. Yeah.
31:36
I saw that. Justin Jefferson now in
31:38
Cleveland. Brown.
31:39
Love that. No, like you can switch teams in
31:41
the draft but you have to switch positions.
31:44
Malayoka. All right, well, take us through
31:46
another winner of the NFL draft. Oh, sure.
31:49
I was going to talk about the Browns more, but hey, that's we,
31:52
we don't need to do that, OK? Talk about the Browns more.
31:56
Well, I was just going to agree with Avery and and I'm really
31:58
excited. In fact, they got Emmanuel
32:00
Warren in the second round there.
32:02
I feel like that's they got some good value and they it's very
32:05
possible that they actually made the right picks this year.
32:07
Not big on Fano, Fano. I've also heard Fano I.
32:14
Man. The amount of ways I've heard
32:16
this four letter name said is crazy.
32:19
Not a friend of him, but hey, you know what, I could be wrong,
32:23
right? That happens.
32:25
So yeah, that like what they had going on.
32:26
I'm going to go with, and you guys might disagree with us.
32:29
I'm going to go with the Dallas Cowboys as winners this year.
32:34
I don't. Disagree with that?
32:36
Actually, a lot of people are confused, I guess they, they
32:41
don't understand why you would move up from 12 to 11.
32:44
Like like what you're giving up to move up just one single spot
32:48
is going to be more more than you should be because you want
32:51
to get your player right now. But the fact that Caleb Downs
32:54
was still there, First off, it legitimately pisses me off that
32:58
he was still on the board at 11. But the fact that they Dallas
33:02
made the did the anti Jerry thing and acted quickly on
33:07
anything and said, hey, you know what, let's get that guy.
33:10
That guy is one of the best players in this entire draft.
33:12
I think he was #1 in our board. And and so excuse me, was this
33:16
styles first? Styles Yeah, Caleb Downs was
33:19
originally 1st and then we moved Styles up.
33:21
So they got like a cornerstone piece of like their entire team
33:26
that they they can have back there.
33:28
Dallas has perpetually needed secondary help, much like most
33:31
teams. But like it has been the, it has
33:33
been a long time coming for Dallas, their secondary.
33:36
And if they they made the right move in the first round to do it
33:39
and then they got do they drafted 3 different edge rushers
33:43
in this draft throughout the entire thing felt like they made
33:45
a lot of moves that made a lot of sense for Dallas right now.
33:48
They and they were able to keep George Pickens.
33:51
There's a lot of speculation that they were, they were sure a
33:55
lot of speculation they would have to get rid of him to do
33:58
anything to to move around to do this, to do that.
34:01
They didn't have to do that. So they're keeping their offense
34:03
together for the most part, and they're building a good defense.
34:06
I feel like Dallas are going to be a lot better this year coming
34:08
up than they were last year. Yeah, I agree and I want to
34:11
stay. While we're talking about the
34:13
Caleb Downs thing, I want to stay on this topic.
34:15
This is actually a loser of the draft that I have, but we'll I
34:19
have another winner, but we'll come back to that later.
34:21
The Miami Dolphins lost the NFL Draft and it's not because of
34:24
who they picked, but because of who they didn't pick.
34:27
They had Caleb Downs fall into their lap and instead of picking
34:31
who many thought was the number one player in the draft, they
34:33
traded the pick and instead selected Kaden Proctor at pick
34:36
12. I like Kaden Proctor, but
34:39
picking him at 12 was a reach and it just looks really bad
34:42
because you had Caleb Downs. Had the Dolphins pick Downs at
34:45
11, they could have ended up with a defensive haul of Caleb
34:48
Downs, Chris Johnson, Jacob Rodriguez, Kyle Lewis, and more.
34:52
I just don't understand why they would pass on Caleb Downs.
34:55
Overall, I really like the players they got, but but that
34:58
one move to not pick downs will be the move that they look back
35:00
on in a few years and regret. It just wasn't a smart move and
35:04
it was surprising because Jeff Hathaway is a defensive head
35:06
coach. A defensive head coach passes on
35:08
possibly the best defensive player in the draft.
35:10
I just don't get it. I don't know what the Dolphins
35:13
are doing. Why would you give up Caleb
35:14
Downs when he falls right into your lap so you can pick up two
35:18
extra fifth round picks? I don't get it.
35:20
I don't understand what they're doing.
35:22
The Dolphins lost to me the big time.
35:24
I agree, I thought it was. Ridiculous.
35:28
I also am confused at who Malik was supposed to throw the
35:30
football too. I always expect we're on the
35:33
Dolphins now. I had them as a loser too, so
35:34
let's just RIP them apart. Same I had I don't.
35:39
They got Caleb Douglas out of Texas Tech in the third round,
35:42
they are Chris Bell unbelievable in the third round.
35:46
They got Kevin Coleman junior out of Missouri in the fifth
35:48
round. They drafted 2 Titans as well in
35:51
there, but that's, I mean great. I just who?
35:56
You brought in Malik Willis to run your team, who's he throwing
36:00
the ball to at what? What do you have offensively
36:04
that is going to work? You drafted Kaden Proctor,
36:06
that's great. But on the board still at that
36:09
point in history, I mean, Sadiq was still there.
36:12
Mccalemon was still Reuben. Bain.
36:15
Reuben Bain doesn't solve the problem they.
36:18
Doesn't solve the receiver problem, but it helps.
36:20
You want they just need talent anywhere.
36:23
You're right. That's why.
36:25
That's why I hate them giving up on Caleb Downs.
36:28
Why would you do that? Yeah, it doesn't make any sense
36:31
to me. Probably did hate him, probably
36:33
decided that he was not what he reads like that can't do it.
36:36
I just they're they're drafted so many picks and I just don't I
36:40
don't really like what they did with their picks available
36:44
overall. Chris Johnson.
36:46
Reached to me, if they would have picked Downs, I probably
36:49
would have them as a winner because you get Downs, Chris
36:51
Johnson and Jacob Rodriguez. And I think those three pieces
36:54
on defense would have been great for you moving forward.
36:56
And I like Chris Johnson. We like him a lot more than Will
36:58
does. And I love Jacob Rodriguez
37:00
probably more than Will does. But just if you had Caleb Downs,
37:04
Chris Johnson and Jacob Rodriguez on your defense, that
37:08
would be awesome for you in the future, like 2-3 years down the
37:11
road. That would be awesome for your
37:13
defense. I just don't get what the
37:15
Dolphins are doing. Yeah.
37:17
Anyways, let's go back to the winners.
37:19
Avery, I think you have one more, right?
37:22
Nope. Tennessee Jets.
37:24
Browns. Oh, OK, will do.
37:27
You have and. Then I guess Philadelphia I I
37:28
like what Philadelphia did. They weren't one of my 3.
37:30
But we don't. We don't need to talk about
37:32
them. Agreed.
37:34
I just had the 2. OK, well I have one more winner.
37:37
I think the Colts were winners of the draft because of what
37:40
they did with no first round pick.
37:42
The first pick they had was at 53rd overall and their second
37:45
pick was 78th overall. And with those two picks, they
37:48
got CJ Allen and AJ Halsey, who I both think were steals for
37:52
where they were drafted. We had CJ Allen ranked as a 23rd
37:55
overall player on our big board, and the Colts picked him at 53.
37:59
And we didn't talk about AJ Halsey on the show, but I ended
38:02
up sliding him into the top 50 without talking to you guys
38:05
because when I watched AJ Halsey's tape, I put him in the
38:08
top 50 because I thought he was too good to not be on that list.
38:11
And the Colts got him at pick 78.
38:13
CJ Allen and AJ Halsey are far more talented than where they
38:16
were drafted and the Colts got some absolute steals with these
38:19
guys. And then we can't forget to talk
38:21
about Bryce Becher here because I think the Colts got a really
38:23
good player with him as well. I'm willing to bet that Bryce
38:26
Becher will be a starter within two years for the Colts.
38:29
He'll start on special teams and he'll quickly work his way up
38:31
the depth chart because he just gives you everything he has on
38:35
every single play. So what the Colts you're able to
38:37
do without a first round pick was really impressive to me.
38:39
And so I think they were big winners coming out of the draft.
38:42
Avery, did you want to talk about Bryce Becher?
38:44
Part of the Caucasian collision unit.
38:47
I wish. I wish we would have seen him
38:49
end up on the same team, I really do.
38:50
Yeah, it's too bad none of the Oregon players ended up on the
38:54
same team. I also think it's ironic that
38:57
Malik Benson, who got beat by Mendoza twice last year, is now
39:04
going to be catching passes from him, assuming he, you know,
39:07
breaks through the depth chart. But but yeah, I think Batcher, I
39:11
think it's exciting. I think he'll do great.
39:13
So good for him. All right, let's move on to the
39:16
losers. Will, who do you have as one of
39:18
your NFL draft losers? I mean, let's just start with
39:21
the Vikings. Let's just start with them, OK?
39:24
Drafting Caleb Banks at 18 is the reason why, like the
39:27
predominant reason I have them as a loser.
39:30
This guy broke his foot last year, projected to have surgery,
39:33
and he re broke it again at the combine.
39:35
And this is the same reason, the literal same reason, that
39:40
Drummond McCoy fell to the fourth round.
39:44
This guy is injury prone. The difference is, is that Caleb
39:48
Banks was trying to play through it and trying to make an effort
39:50
through it where drama McCoy has visually not.
39:54
I don't hate anyone drafting Caleb Banks.
39:57
I do hate it in the first round. Still on the board in order of
40:00
rankings via a third party websites.
40:04
Kate McDonald, Peter Woods, Lee Hunter, Dante Corleone,
40:09
Dominique Horn, Darrell Jackson, Demonte Capehart.
40:11
I could keep going. Chris McAllen, Skyler.
40:14
Girl, you could have just all these guys.
40:15
You could have just all these guys.
40:17
All of you guys ranked higher. Still on the board when this
40:23
even has Tim Keenan ranked higher than Caleb Banks
40:26
specifically because Caleb Banks is hurt and he is will be hurt
40:30
for a long time and he's not going to be back this year.
40:34
He had Kendall Banks is a big man at pause for me, 6 foot 6
40:42
foot 6 foot six, 330 lbs. That's not just going to heal
40:46
quickly, especially if it goes non weight bearing.
40:49
It's as soon as you start to put weight back on it.
40:52
The amount of weight is immense. It's it's incredible.
40:55
It's huge. Your body, especially the part
40:59
you stand down on your body it it requires time to heal and I
41:03
just drafting that guy in the first round, you must have seen
41:07
something everybody else did not.
41:08
I could not tell you anything about the rest of their picks,
41:11
but they did also draft Dominique Orange in the third
41:14
round. They said they saw checks out.
41:19
They saw that they're going to have to they're if they need a
41:22
defensive time to play this year.
41:24
We can't rely on our first round picks.
41:25
Let's draft another one. So I just don't understand it.
41:30
There was other weapons on the board.
41:31
They had needs they didn't fill. I mean, they had, they were wide
41:34
receivers still on the board at that point.
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All of them were still, all of them, but still good wide
41:39
receivers on the board at that point.
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There was still so much talent available and ready, like how
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limits hadn't come off the board yet.
41:46
There was just so much there they could have done with that
41:48
pick and then didn't. I'm just disappointed with the
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Vikings. You've got short stuff and can't
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throw a football, but you didn't bring in any actual help.
41:57
And yes, you've got Justin Jefferson, but if you think he's
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going to be the same guy with those two back there as he is,
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even with all I can do is case came and that's not the guy who
42:06
was there before JJ McCarthy. Sam Darnold.
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Yes, Darnold, thank you. Yeah, if you think he's the same
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guy as Donald, it's just not going to be good.
42:15
Justin Jefferson Minnesota not have just drafted man my
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thoughts are going doesn't matter.
42:24
I just think that there there was so much more they could have
42:27
done to actually help the team. I think this is a worse pick on
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individual grade basis. This is a worse based in the
42:34
Rams taking Kai Simpson because either way that your best case
42:39
scenario is your first round pick does not play this year and
42:42
you could have done something better with to help your team
42:44
win right now overall. Like if you look at the picks
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after Caleb Banks, I think it's a decent draft, but just
42:50
drafting Caleb Banks that high was just a reach, right?
42:53
Avery, who do you have as one of your NFL draft losers?
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I have an individual and therefore a team.
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The team is the New England Patriots and the man is Mike
43:05
Frabel. Does this have to do with this
43:07
scandal? Yes, yes, that is yes.
43:10
That is entirely the reason. I think it's wild that it's
43:12
going on right now. I don't even know how involved
43:15
he was in the draft. I think it creates a massive
43:18
distraction. It's clearly not going away.
43:20
It's only building momentum and I feel bad for every single
43:22
rookie that got drafted there because they are just being born
43:27
into that. It's like, it's like being born
43:29
and seeing your parents, like already arguing and getting a
43:32
divorce. It's like, Yikes, like this is
43:35
what I get born into. I think it's a rough situation.
43:39
I think it's going to be very, very, very detrimental to that
43:42
team. And honestly, it's very little.
43:45
I'm not a big fan of Caleb Lomu, but the rest of them are
43:49
probably fine gentlemen. I just feel like this is really,
43:53
really bad. I think it's interesting that
43:55
this whatever New York Post article has done more damage to
43:58
the Patriots than The Jets or Giants they'd ever do to them.
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They're one of my losers. All right, for one of my losers
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at the NFL draft, I'm going with the Arizona Cardinals.
44:10
I just don't understand what the Cardinals are doing.
44:12
They took Jeremiah Love with the number three overall pick, which
44:15
makes no sense for where this team is right now.
44:17
This is going to be like a Saquon Barkley situation.
44:20
You take the shiny new toy because it's shiny, but because
44:22
the rest of the team is terrible, it's not going to
44:24
amount to anything. And what's crazy about this
44:27
move, too, is that the Cardinals will have over $60 million tied
44:30
up in their running backroom. That's just not a recipe for
44:33
success. But what's worse than that is
44:35
taking Carson Beck with the first pick in the third round.
44:38
The guy that they actually wanted was gone.
44:40
So they reach for a different quarterback who's either going
44:42
to sit and do nothing or play and do nothing because the team
44:45
is terrible. I understand that they need a
44:47
quarterback, but there were much better players on the board they
44:50
could have picked to build the overall roster instead of
44:53
picking a quarterback who's not going to do anything.
44:56
I will say that the Chase Basantis pick in the second
44:58
round was a really good pick to boost their offensive line, but
45:01
overall I just don't get what the Cardinals are doing.
45:04
I agree completely. I think what happened was, is
45:07
that no one wanted to trade up to #3 I think that they, the
45:13
Cardinals, tried to trade out of it.
45:15
There was too many stories for them not to be trying to trade
45:18
out of that pick. Too many times it came up that
45:21
they were trying to and so nobody wanted it because they're
45:24
like, well, I mean, I know I could probably get the same guy
45:27
would pick eight that I want there.
45:29
So I'm not going to do that. And so they just went, you know
45:32
what, we'll take the best athlete in the draft.
45:34
I guess we need offensive help, let you out.
45:37
Although if we're being fair, they need a defensive help more
45:40
in my opinion, because they can put up 35 points.
45:43
Your team was putting up 40. And so it's like, well, this is
45:48
the issue. The pick feels bad.
45:50
I think them picking Jeremiah Love was the exact reason why
45:54
the Titans pick Cardinal Tate. They will.
45:56
Our guy is gone. I guess we'll just take the next
45:58
best offensive weapon on the board.
46:00
I don't know. I don't like it.
46:00
I don't like anything they did. There's Kubiak.
46:03
Clint Kubiak, down there for his first year, is not set up, no.
46:06
That's the. Good first year.
46:08
That's the best Raiders. Nope, it's a Lambsgar, but yeah.
46:12
Michael Floor, Matt. Matt Lafleur, Mike.
46:16
Matt, this is going to be a Haba situation for me all over again.
46:23
Wherever the floor, brother. Mike, that's Mike.
46:26
Mike yeah, it's like the first time he's just not set up for a
46:29
successful first year. And the lease says the leash is
46:32
so short with his first year head coaches, he's not put
46:36
himself in a good winning spot. Right.
46:38
Do you guys have any other winners or losers of the NFL
46:41
draft you want to talk about? I think the 49ers, Davis muted.
46:44
I think the. The 90 Niners.
46:46
That's funny. The Niners, I was saying.
46:48
Oh great. Yeah, My problem is, you know
46:51
what a reality you go first to the Niners.
46:52
Here, No, no, no, I just, no. I just think they suck and
46:56
they're the worst team and I just can.
46:59
I thought Stribling was a wild pick there and I didn't think
47:03
anything else really stood out. I feel like they just didn't
47:06
show out and they're the Niners and they suck and no matter what
47:11
they do, they won't have enough depth.
47:12
Everyone will get hurt and they'll be in the same position
47:15
next year. We'll go ahead.
47:18
Wait, wait. Before we goes, did you guys see
47:20
the video of Kyle Shanahan when they drafted their third round
47:22
pick, Caitlin Black, the running back from Indiana?
47:25
So they show the video of the war room and everybody's
47:28
celebrating and Kyle Shanahan is just sitting in his chair just
47:30
like staring off in the blank space, like, what are we doing?
47:34
He hated that thing. He hated it, just like Sean
47:37
McVay hated the Tie Simpson thing.
47:39
My biggest problem is not just here is that they made no splash
47:45
moves. I guess there's no like notable,
47:48
like really notable names that they drafted, which is going to
47:52
happen when your first pick isn't until early in the second
47:55
round, But you traded out of it, trade out of the first round
47:57
into the second round and then you draft the Stripling and then
48:01
you just kind of went well, I guess we'll just kind of take
48:05
good enough players, I guess. And it just feels very
48:08
lackluster. This team that is has been in
48:12
win Right Now mode for like the last five years.
48:15
It feels like, if not more, making it to the NFC
48:18
Championship game, if not the Super Bowl multiple times in the
48:20
last eight years just feels like they've been right on the cusp
48:24
every single year. And now they're in 3rd place in
48:28
the NFC West and it's drafted Nothing to help that.
48:32
I just I'm just, I just don't get this one.
48:35
I don't get it at all. All right.
48:36
Well, if you guys don't have anything else, I just have one
48:39
more thing that I wanted to share before we close out the
48:41
episode here. So we just hit over 300
48:44
subscribers on YouTube this last week.
48:46
And I know that's really not that many, but the reason I
48:48
bring that up is because we started doing draft content the
48:51
week after the Super Bowl, so almost three months ago.
48:53
And when we started doing that, we had 150 subscribers on
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YouTube. So we doubled the amount of
48:58
subscribers we had in three months of draft content.
49:01
This year. We got more subscribers from
49:03
this draft content than we had in the entire previous year of
49:06
content that we had. So I just wanted to say thank
49:08
you to everyone who watched and subscribed to our YouTube
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49:15
forget to keep your balls played with.
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We'll see you next time. There you go.
49:19
Oh, my throat is terrible. Also, Mark Davidson's haircut
49:22
still sucks.