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Love, Loss & Listener Stories: Diving Into Busted’s ‘Losing You’ Ep 8 · Galaxy Crashers: The Busted and McFly Podcast

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Hello, you're listening to Galaxy Crashes, the Busted and
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McFly podcast. The only podcast where the 2
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worlds of McFly and Busted come together where we discuss all
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things naughties and pop rock mayhem.
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I'm Shan. And I'm Tay.
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And in this week's episode, we're back into the world of
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Busted with the 4th song on a studio album, Losing you.
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Yes, it's a more emotional episode today.
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We're going to be diving deep into the song lyrics and
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meanings, as well as sharing some of our own personal stories
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and sharing some of yours that you've sent in too.
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We figured that all our episodes so far have been pretty upbeat
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and reflecting of the song of the week, so we wanted to stay
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true to that and make sure we're being vulnerable with you guys
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too. So before we get all emotional
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and probably cry in front of all our listeners, how was your week
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been? I feel like every time you ask
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me this question I say the same thing.
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I've not been up to much, I've just done a lot of work and a
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lot of parenting. Yeah, it's the build up to
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Christmas. So this weekend we went to my
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mum came over and we went to a Christmas carnival, thank you,
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which was lovely. And then the next day we went
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out with all of my family to like, we went to this Christmas
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panto thing. It was like Jack Frost stole
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Christmas or like stole the Christmas party or something.
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Yeah. And and then Santa was invited
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to the Christmas party. It was very good actually.
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They got to, like, make their own, like, Jack Frost stole some
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Christmas decorations, and then the kids in the audience got to
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make Christmas decorations. So it's really interactive.
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Yeah. They loved it.
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Yeah. And then they got to go on stage
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and meet Santa after, which was lovely.
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And then it was Sunday. So yeah, then we went out for
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lunch. And if you know me, you know how
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much I love the F1. And one of my favourite, one of
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my favourite drivers, LOD, one world champion.
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So it's just a great weekend all in one day.
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We had panto Santa, really, really, really lovely food out,
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which we never do. Literally, me and Bradley on the
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way home, we're like thinking back to when we last had, well,
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to be honest, when we last had time to ourselves, just the two
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of us. We're just.
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It's it's on the back burner when you're a parent doesn't.
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It. Yeah.
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Yeah. Time for a couple.
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Yeah. We figured out it was, like,
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over two years ago that we actually went out for dinner.
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Just two of us. Yeah.
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And then Lando won the F1, and then it was the Army celeb
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finale. And it was just a really good,
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like, wholesome family weekend. That sounds.
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Amazing. Yeah, it was really nice.
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How about you? Yes, it's, it's been OK.
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It's been a bit of a weird week to be completely honest.
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I was really getting into the swing of being back at school.
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So I've been like working back now for like 3 weeks on supply
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and I worked in a really beautiful little nursery which
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was so much fun, but I was only there for one day and then I got
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smacked in the face with a disgusting cold and had to call
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in sick for two days after that. So that wasn't fun.
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I pretty much have done nothing but moan about how well I've
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been for over a week now. So yeah, it's been grim because
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as you know, when you have a child, you get ill, then they
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get ill, or they get ill and then you get ill.
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You get ill, Yeah. You're going to catch what
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they've got or they're going to catch what you've got.
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So by the time I was feeling better, Molly was feeling awful.
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So we were just trying to, yeah, power through.
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But we did manage to drag ourselves off the sofa for a
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little trip to Devon for The Polar Express, which was so much
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fun. Although I was feeling like
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death warmed up seeing Molly and her cousin together, like on the
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train with elves and Santa and like music and lights and snow
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and we had hot chocolate and cookies and it just made me feel
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so much better. And it just made my mum.
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It was so, so good. It was a really nice, actually
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similar to what you said, a very wholesome family weekend.
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So yeah, we absolutely loved it. And it was Marley's like, first
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time properly meeting Santa, I suppose, like because she saw
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him last year at this really God awful event that we went to,
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which was promised to be the most magical thing in the world.
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And it was pretty. Much.
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We had one of those last year. Big boards of PDF put up in a
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barn with some paper on it. It was unbelievable.
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Yeah. And, and the Santa was just an
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actual large man with a polyester beard with gloves that
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had holes in because they obviously didn't fit his very
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large hands. And he was really grumpy.
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So going to The Polar Express and seeing like a proper, proper
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Santa, he's like full, you know, real beard, like proper old man.
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It was so, so lovely. And I think that Molly just
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absolutely enjoyed, like loved every minute of it.
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And we were laughing all the way home and she was absolutely
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shattered. And it was just wonderful.
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So yeah, that was a really wonderful experience.
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Other than feeling poorly, it's been, it's been a nice week.
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Yeah, definitely. And busy because there's always
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something going on. Isn't it?
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That's one of the things I love most about Christmas.
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It stresses me out. But I just love that like,
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there's always you. You're never like, oh, what
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should we do today? What should we do?
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Yeah, exactly. In my brain, I'm like mentally
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trying to plan when I'm going to see all the different Christmas
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lights as well. I in our local town we have like
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ones through the main town, which obviously, obviously we
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see a fair amount driving through and stuff, but there's a
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little village called Angarek which has beautiful lights every
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year and you can walk through the whole village because it's
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not like a main road or. Anything.
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Literally. Like so quiet and they shut it
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all off and they have lights all the way down.
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It must be like over a mile walk where you can walk and it's just
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beautiful lights. And then we have Mauso, which is
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like right down the other end of of Penzance, you know, really at
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the very bottom of the country. And it's this tiny little
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harbour village and they have all the beautiful lights up in
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the heart. Oh nice.
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They have people selling like hot chocolates and mulled wine
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and little chestnuts and it's so much and I haven't done it for
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years. So I really, last year, the
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weather was so God awful the whole of winter, we just didn't
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get chance to go because every time we planned on going, it was
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paying it down or it was really windy.
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So I'm hoping that we get to go and do all of that very, very
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soon. But yeah, it's been fun.
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I mean, my, my child is hopped up on sugar because she's got an
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advent calendar now and she's old enough to actually have an
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advent calendar now. So I did.
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We've got a. Fret at the moment we've got if
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you're not, if you don't, behave at school.
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You're not having your advent. I'm having the advent calendar,
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don't you? It's not that you're not.
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You have to watch me eat it. Yeah.
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So we started off. We started off the beginning of
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the month where they were having it in the morning and now it's
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an after school treat because I can eat it.
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If you love that, that's such a good idea.
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I love that. I mean, I did buy Marley at one
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of those book ones, you know, like that.
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A book collection calendars. And she has enjoyed doing those,
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actually. They're really like little tiny
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books, but they're lovely and they're really good because they
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fit in the little drawer with all her toys in, rather than
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having to have like 24 new books.
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But equally, when she knows that it's time for the actual advent
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calendar, she's going. Chocolate, chocolate, just do
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chocolate takes after a mummy. I know she's me all over, but
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yes, they're very wholesome. Wholesome, wholesome week,
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definitely. As we mentioned in last week's
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episode, you guys have loved the this or that game on our
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socials. So every week we are going to
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start with a this or that for each other.
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Don't forget you can play along with these on our Instagram
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stories. All templates are in our
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highlights and make sure you tag us because we really love seeing
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and sharing your answers. Yeah, so I was debating what to
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do to you today for your. Make it hard.
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Make it fun. Make it.
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But you know what? You gave me such a hard time for
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my answer to a question on one of our Instagram ones, so I
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thought I'd throw the question back at you.
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And yeah, so I want to know some wise busted 90s or busted on
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what you're on. Honestly, this is the easiest,
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easiest answer in the world because I love them both.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not being horrible, but guys, I
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genuinely questioned whether Shannon was my best friend when
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she told me that she was going to choose on what you're on over
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90s. I'd swear down what is wrong
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with you. OK, I'm a nostalgic girl through
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and through this. Is why I was just.
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I was so. Shocked it's in my blood, but on
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what you're on, you say that sentence and that song is now
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going to be stuck in my head until we record the next
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podcast. Like it's an ear, it's.
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So catchy, yeah. I get that it's an earworm.
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I get it. But it's very, it's almost like
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a bit too poppy for me. OK, I see.
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It I feel like I could be like dancing in a in a club and like
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having fun, whereas like 90s is me speaking along the a 30
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screaming at the top of my nose like over and over again because
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it reminds me of everything from when I was a kid like.
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Yeah, do. You know what I mean?
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Like it? I do get it, it's a good song.
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Well, it's just the. They're so clever, like the way
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that they, I don't know, they're just so clever.
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I know it's. Like Jamesy boy.
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Jamesy boy, such a good boy. I think it's the, it was the, it
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was the I missed the days of ditching school to watch the
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Goonies. That was like that coming up.
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I was just like, what an amazing lyric.
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And then he says when cigarettes would cost you less than the
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movies. And I can remember when we were
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younger, like, I hung out with all the cool girls at school and
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they were all like dirty smokers.
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And we used to go to the garage and like buy fags and they were
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like £3 or something for a pack of 20.
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And now it's like 15 times the prize.
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But it's, it's just, it's very nostalgic.
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I just find it very. It is.
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And it's almost like it's sad nostalgia, like, it's not like.
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Yeah. I don't know, it's, it's very
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much like them talking about how how sad they are that, you know,
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the 90s is over and how life has changed so drastically since
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then and how they'd love to go back.
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And I think it is quite like, oh, it does hit me like in the
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heartstrings a little bit because although it's a really
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fun song, it is really. And you know, they in the second
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verse they talk about, I think it's like a where they had like,
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was it a big, big shopping centre or somewhere that they
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talk about something that used to go and and play games and
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things in and now it's a just a big parking lot because it's all
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been knocked down and there's nothing there anymore.
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So true though, isn't it? So true Like where I'm, so I
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talk about, I don't live there anymore, but I'm from Torquay
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and if I talk about it to anybody where I live now,
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they're like Torquay. The way I remember Torquay is
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like beaches and the pavilion and you know the.
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Just beautiful beach huts, the little beach.
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Yeah, yeah. And palm trees and the.
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It's the Riviera of, you know, and I talk about it so highly,
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but people I meet now are like, oh, you're friends, you're gay.
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Do you take drugs? But I'm like, I look at it with
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like these rose tinted glasses from when I was like, I used to
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walk from like basically not Torquay to the middle of Torquay
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on my own. I would, I would be.
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It was in Barton where I lived, and I'd walk right into the
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centre of Torquay on my own on a weekend, meet my friends with a
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fiver, still come back with change and I'd be allowed to do
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that. Because it was so.
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Safe. Yeah, Yeah, it was so safe and
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so lovely and like, I, like my parents would allow it, but now
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as an adult, I wouldn't do that. Ever want to do that as an
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adult? I don't even want to walk 20
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minutes down the. Road.
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Yeah, I completely agree. It's, yeah, it's it's a shame,
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isn't it? Life has changed so much.
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And some ways in the, you know, some ways for the better.
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But also, like we, I think we've mentioned this before in the
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podcast, like we were kids at a time where we could still be
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kids and have fun and be outside and not have the pressures of
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society and social media and all these expectations that kids
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have nowadays. And all these labels and having
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to, you know, be so young and talk about things like sexuality
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and gender and stereotypes and racism and all this stuff that,
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that they're learning in primary school now because it's so
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important, you know? And, but like, we didn't, none
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of that mattered back then for us because we, it's not that it
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didn't matter, but like, it just wasn't a thing, you know, I
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don't remember ever being, being in a situation where I had to
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talk about those things at school.
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I was more interested in what I was going to do and what games I
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was going to play at playtime. Do you know what I mean?
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And like what? We were.
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I was more interested in MSN. Yeah, getting home and and
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sending someone my love for the evening.
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Asking someone to be my other half.
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Yeah, exactly. And then being really sad when
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they refused. I think that's what did it for
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me. When you chose on what you're
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on, it took all of that away. And I was just like, you've just
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stolen this from me. I tell you, if I'm going to be
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completely honest now, I know first half of this like podcast,
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there's this whole like last 8 episodes.
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I'm a bit of a negative Nancy when it comes to the
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songwriters, but these two songs are nowhere near my top 30 for
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Busted. Like they are bottom but
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comparing the two on what you're on made me feel something when
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it came out. Yeah.
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Because we hadn't heard from the band for so long.
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For so long, I think I completely disagree about 90.
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So again, we're going to get there eventually.
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I would say it's in my top 10. Really.
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Yeah. Oh my God, the.
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Entire it just makes me feel. For everyone is I know 10.
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Yeah, to be fair, I might I when I get there, I might be like, Oh
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no, hang on. Now I'm I'm sat here looking at
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the setlist from from the tour that I got from the busted
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drummer on my wall and I'm thinking, well, maybe not.
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It might not be top done. The entire present.
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Present. Meet you there.
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You said no. Dawson Skeet.
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Britney Nerdy. Why lose a kid?
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Who's David? Sleeping with the light on
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everything I knew Thunderbirds. What I go to school for.
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Oh, maybe she. Wants to be me, she wants to be
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me. Falling for you?
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Oh my goodness, too right, That's OK.
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OK, I'm going to give you all this or that now I've gone for
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something more like a scenario than like a song.
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So I've changed it up a little bit.
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I just thought it was a good idea and I'm interested to know
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what you would prefer. So this or that.
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Would you rather crash the wedding or be the one who gets
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crashed on their wedding day? So this is really hard for me in
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two different aspects. I have severe anxiety.
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That's why I think I'm gonna crash someone.
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You think I'm gonna crash someones wedding?
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I can't even tell somebody. If they got my name wrong.
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This is what I mean. I think most people would choose
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to crash the wedding, but I know you probably wouldn't because
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you're. I'd walk in and I'd be like,
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excuse me? You'd be like, oh.
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No, sorry, wrong room. You'd be like Taylor Swift in
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her video. What's the song where she's at
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the wedding and she's singing to him?
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Oh, speak now. Speak now.
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Yeah. She's like sit there and she's
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like looking around at other people.
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That would be me. I'd be like, OK, yeah, I I could
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not. However, I don't want my wedding
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day to get. Actually, it depends who it is
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and. Who you're marrying if you're
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who's crashing? Don't listen, Bradley.
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I don't know if it's bloody Joe Keery, then crush my wedding
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man. If it's like if it's like an old
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absolutely don't do not come near it.
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But if it's like, I don't know, do a leaper for Bradley,
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absolutely not. But.
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In his dreams. Yeah, well, I'm talking about
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Joe Kiri. True.
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This is what I mean. Jack celebrity crosses Rihanna,
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so I've got no chance. No, but this is what I mean.
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I want to say crash the wedding but I can't.
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So I guess my wedding day is being crashed.
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I'm not even. I'm not even engaged and I'm
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depressed about this. It's time for Quote Corner.
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This section is pretty self-explanatory.
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We find quotes we like from the band members and talk about
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them. So my quote is I was listening
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to a really odd podcast. Charlie Simpson went on a
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podcast with Jamie Lang and Jamie Lang, another guy, another
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guy from Made in Chelsea made. In Chelsea, Jamie Lang.
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Yeah, he, he was doing this. It was like 2 years ago he was
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doing his podcast with, I can't remember what the guy's called.
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I know he dated Binky because I'm that kind of men, just a
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gal. But yeah, Anyway, so he was on
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this podcast and Jamie Lang said so Jamie Lang said to Charlie
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Simpson, I always say naivety is our biggest weapon when we're
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younger because you don't understand about rejection or
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the consequences of failure. So that's why we just do the
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things we do because you're blind to it all.
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And then Charlie Simpson says, that's so interesting because
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you're right because as you get older, a lot of what damages you
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is your fear of failure. And that can play into, you
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know, mental health and the expectation to fail or not.
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And you're right. When you're younger, it's like,
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OK, here we go. I didn't have any premonition of
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what would have happened or not. I just went out.
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And if they'd have said no, I'd have come home and just said,
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oh, well, I'm glad I did it. And I was so young.
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I was literally a child. I guess naivety was my strength
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at that point. And that was about him going for
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the Busted audition. Yeah, because he was 16 and it
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was just in half term. And he just said to his mum and
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dad, do you know what I'm going to go to for this?
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And there was no record label or anything.
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And he just was like, do you know what?
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I'm going to do it. And he wasn't scared.
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And then he got it. And then like he was like, guys,
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I'm not coming back to school, bearing in mind it's half term
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so it's like a week, two weeks. He just said to his mates not
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come back to school. I'm moving to London all on a
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premonition. Well, I think so cool, isn't it?
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So crazy to me about it is how young they were, that they were
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so, so young and actually. Like he says, I was so long I
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was literally a child and I'm thinking about that now.
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I'm like, Oh my God, we saw you at like 17 or whatever, so you
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would have been even younger. Yeah, insane, I think.
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I think Jamie's quote is really that really when when he first
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read that bit, I thought, wow, that's actually quite heart
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hitting because when we're younger we don't understand
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about rejection or the consequences of failure.
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So we just do things because we were blind to it.
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It's so true because that's what he's saying.
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Then naivety was my strength. He didn't think about what was
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going to happen if he failed. He didn't care.
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He just thought, I'll bugger it, I'll just go and have a go and
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see what. And now we're adults.
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We're like, I bet if that happened to him now, he'd have
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been like, yeah, well, I can't really do that because XY and Z.
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Yeah, it'd have been a massive deal.
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Like a huge thing. That's crazy.
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I think while we're on this topic of your quote actually
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ties in quite nicely with what I wanted to say about Busted last
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week, but I didn't because I knew this podcast, but this
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episode is coming up and that was I was listening to on the
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Men podcast with Matt Willis. And he has a whole episode where
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it's about tour and about Busted.
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And it was really, really good episode.
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If you guys haven't listened to On The Mend, go and listen to it
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because Matt Willis is just, it's just so cool.
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I just love him. I don't understand why he's so.
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He is actually the coolest person in the world.
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But he was talking about a few things about how Busted came
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together and how about how him and James were, you know, the
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beginning. They started the band together
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because they both went to Sylvia Youngs acting school and they
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met there. They were trying and trying and
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trying to get, you know, record company to sign them and they
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couldn't get it. And they were told that they
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needed a front man. So they did these auditions.
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They saw Charlie and immediately they were like, wow, this guy
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can sing. He's got that front man energy.
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Like he brings a lot to our look as well because he looked really
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cool and he was a little bit younger than them as well.
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So it was just a massive like yes from them and and as soon as
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they had Charlie, they got signed like straight away.
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Like it was just tick, tick, ticks all over.
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Yeah, in that thing he literally said in that thing, he was like,
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it took four months. Yeah, insane.
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Insane, like. And they were global superstars.
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Mad. And then Matt goes on to talk
21:20
about how, you know, they started writing when they
21:24
started writing together. And the songs that they would
21:26
write at the beginning were very like Blink 182 inspired.
21:30
And they were very like, you know, that sort of quirky, more
21:34
like Rocky style pop rock kind of energy, like American Y, you
21:38
know, and that that was the music that Charlie really loved.
21:43
And that's how he wanted to make music with them.
21:46
That was what they had as their idea of Busted.
21:49
But because Busted got so big so quickly, they were like created
21:54
as this more like of a pop band and because it was like the age
21:58
of boy bands with with Westlife and Boy Zone and all of these
22:03
other bands coming out that were like boy.
22:05
Blues. Blue exactly.
22:08
It was they were being branded as like pop bands, like Sweet 16
22:13
girls love them pop bands, you know, like what I go to school
22:17
for and like, you know, and that made Charlie miserable.
22:21
And that is literally what he said.
22:22
He said Charlie was miserable. He was making music that he
22:25
didn't sign up for. He signed up to make music with
22:29
the, you know, the whole blink 182 vibe.
22:31
That was the music that he loved.
22:33
That was the music he and he was young, he wanted, he wanted to
22:36
do what he he wanted, not what other people wanted.
22:39
And that's why he became so miserable.
22:42
And that's why it ended so quickly, because they just got
22:45
bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger.
22:46
And he realised that he's now stuck in this place where he has
22:49
to keep doing what he doesn't want to do.
22:53
So his only thing to do was to leave.
22:55
And and they it did say like, although that it was Charlie
22:59
that was miserable, they could see that Charlie wasn't happy
23:03
and it was actually a mutual decision in the end.
23:07
Yeah, it probably had a long standing effect on the band
23:10
itself. 100 percent, 100%. And then they were all signed to
23:15
their own labels. They all got their recording.
23:17
And Matt said he remembers leaving in this is in the On the
23:21
Men podcast episode. He remembers leaving the meeting
23:24
where they told everybody that they were breaking up, and they
23:27
all got into individual cars and just drove away.
23:31
And I think that's like, that really hit me.
23:33
I was like, Oh my God, that's like.
23:35
That's really sad. That's really, really sad
23:38
because like, it genuinely like imagine spending all of your
23:41
time with these people and being with them and then being like
23:43
everything because your whole life is now blowing up and it's
23:46
about the three of you. And then one day it was just
23:49
over and you just got into cars and went your separate ways and
23:52
that was the end of it. And he said, you know, then he
23:55
went back to his hotel and he and he didn't leave his hotel
23:58
room for X amount of time and he just sat in there in the dark
24:01
and, you know, was drinking and abusing and and that's why he.
24:05
Well, I guess when you see, when you have a vision of your, what
24:09
your future is going to look like, to have it all taken away
24:13
from you, especially when there's the vision is of
24:16
success, it must be so hard because like to modernise it a
24:22
little bit. I guess that's how like the One
24:25
Direction boys felt as well. Yeah.
24:27
Do you know what I mean? They were global, they break up
24:31
and then it's like, what the fuck do I do now?
24:35
I think it's, it is sad and you know, but it's nice to hear Matt
24:39
talk about it. And I really did enjoy that
24:41
episode. And there are lots of other
24:42
episodes where he does mention, you know, Busted and he talks
24:45
about McFly and there's an episode that he did backstage
24:49
with Dougie and Harry, which is really cool actually.
24:51
And it's something worth for listening to.
24:54
So those of you that haven't had to listen to On the Mend,
24:56
definitely get yourself over to their Spotify page and have a
24:59
listen. My quote is from the wonderful
25:02
Matt Willis. And I've picked a really sloppy
25:04
one this week. So prepare yourselves.
25:08
I don't know why I chose this when I read it.
25:09
And I was just like, Oh my God, I can't even.
25:11
I was just felt it in my heart. Matt said Maybe because I got
25:17
married this year, that might be what it is.
25:20
Matt said that a wedding is the ultimate declaration of love.
25:24
It's like, I choose you forever, he said.
25:26
There's nothing really out there that does that.
25:28
It's a massive thing. It's like I choose you above
25:31
everyone else forever. That's a pretty big thing.
25:34
So where are you, Joe Kiri? Come on.
25:38
Come on. I'm waiting.
25:41
I'm wishing. I just thought, I think I was
25:45
looking for lots of different quotes from that.
25:47
And this is obviously surrounding the love is blind
25:50
sort of thing. And they were talking about how
25:54
for some people, you know, it really is a, a real thing.
25:57
Like people are genuinely there to get married.
25:59
And then there's others where they're just there for the fame.
26:02
But it is like getting married is an ultimate declaration of
26:07
love. And some people don't believe in
26:09
marriage and some people aren't bothered about marriage.
26:11
And, you know, it's especially in an age now where I think that
26:14
people aren't bothered about getting married at all.
26:17
And like, I know for example, my husband would have literally
26:23
signed a piece of paper, the registry office and not had a
26:25
wedding and not have been bothered about any of that and
26:28
just done the legal bit to be like, yeah, I choose you.
26:30
That's it. And and I get that.
26:32
I would have I, you know, I understand the, the, the, the
26:36
fact that you, you care about someone so much that the rest of
26:39
it doesn't matter. But I think for me, a wedding is
26:44
doing that in front of everyone that you love.
26:47
And I think that's what it is for me.
26:49
I think it is a big thing and it is standing in front of the
26:51
people that care about you more than anyone in the world and
26:54
your family and your friends and everyone that has made an impact
26:57
on your life. And standing there in front of
27:00
them and actually saying this is the person that I choose over
27:04
anyone and I will put this person first forever.
27:07
And I think that's what I completely agreed with Matt when
27:10
I read that. I just thought that was really
27:11
sweet. It's time for Song of the Week.
27:16
This week, make sure you've got your tissues because we are
27:19
jumping in the DeLorean and heading back to the early
27:21
noughties where we faced difficulties of young love,
27:24
heartbreak and navigating that transition to adulthood with
27:28
Busted Song losing you. Losing You was released on their
27:45
2002 debut album and was track 4.
27:48
The lyrics describe the desperation and regret of a
27:51
failing relationship, with the singer pleading for a way to
27:54
save it and reflecting on past mistakes.
27:57
It's a ballad about heartbreak and the struggle to hold on to a
28:01
love that is just simply slipping away.
28:04
So before we talk about this song, can I just say I'm an
28:06
absolute sucker for a sad song? It's like unbelievably so, to
28:11
the point where I genuinely sometimes just want to sit in my
28:16
car and cry and scream at the top of my lungs but no one can
28:20
see or hear me. It's like actual therapy.
28:22
Like, who needs a therapist? Do you?
28:24
Know what I mean? I completely agree.
28:27
I love a sad song. Think that's why I like Taylor
28:29
Swift so much. She's so depressing.
28:31
Percent. She really is.
28:32
And you know what? When I speak to my friends about
28:34
Taylor Swift, that's why they don't like her, because she's so
28:36
depressing. I'm like, I'm depressing.
28:40
Why are you friends? People are like, people are
28:42
like, oh, you like shake it off. No, I like the deep cuts that
28:45
make me want to cry at 2:00 in the morning.
28:47
I like tolerate it because I love people who don't love me
28:54
back. I like.
28:56
You're losing me. Yeah, I like to hear her
28:59
heartbeat in the background. Oh dear.
29:03
But I am. I really, really am a sucker for
29:06
a sad song. I will more than happily sit and
29:09
listen to really sad music and just cry because I genuinely
29:12
feel like sometimes that's all I need to pick me up again.
29:16
Yeah, Oh dear. Just to feel it.
29:21
Exactly just to. Feel your emotion.
29:23
It's nice to, it's nice to know that's not just me and that you
29:26
also feel that way. And there's probably a few
29:29
listeners out there as well. But also like to have a bit of a
29:32
cry and a scream in the car or in the shower.
29:35
Or if you live on your own, you're very lucky that you can
29:38
do that without anybody else judging you, because we don't
29:41
have, we don't have that luxury. No, we don't.
29:43
Do you have a rating for this song?
29:46
I do. I love this song.
29:48
I think that in general, it's, it's a good song.
29:52
It's very easy to listen to. I love singing it.
29:56
I love, you know, like I said, crying in the car to it.
29:59
However, in terms of what I like about Busted, I don't like
30:05
Busted because they sing sad ballads.
30:07
I like Taylor Swift because she sings sad ballads.
30:10
And I think that it's not the style that I love them doing.
30:15
I think it's the style that I can appreciate, but it's
30:19
definitely not up there for me. So I'm going to, I'm going to be
30:22
pretty brutal here because. Oh my goodness.
30:26
Again, I'm looking at the set list and thinking of all the
30:28
wonderful songs I've got to come.
30:31
I'm going to give Losing You a four.
30:34
Oh my goodness. I know it's really.
30:37
Bad. I actually like, I know that
30:39
sounded like I've rehearsed that.
30:40
That was a genuine reaction. Yeah, we haven't yet.
30:43
We don't share our rating. Disgusting.
30:46
Most disgusting rating of the series.
30:48
It's worse than my skippable 5 pillars.
30:53
I love it. I feel like I've been let off
30:55
now that rating has given me pass.
30:58
I really love it. I'm not saying that I don't love
31:00
it, but I am thinking ahead and I'm thinking about the fact that
31:03
I've got so many songs that I would rank above this and I've
31:07
got like, I would rate. There's one that I would rate
31:09
above this, and then there's five more that I would rate
31:11
above that. So it's like I have to put it
31:14
down there. Yeah, but Matt Willis is verse
31:17
in this where he's. Like.
31:20
Oh, I love it where it's like a roar in.
31:23
Like I just love it. He is, yeah.
31:29
I mean, this is one of those songs where you can very clearly
31:32
hear Matt as well. And I love that they give him
31:37
his own dedicated verse because I do feel like, you know, and
31:40
I've said this before and I'll say it again, I feel like it
31:43
there is very James and Charlie Heavy, like the same that it's
31:46
very Tom and Danny heavy and Dougie sort of, you know, the
31:48
background singer. But I think Matt has an
31:51
incredible voice and the newer stuff has definitely got a bit
31:55
more of him in it. And I do appreciate that
31:56
definitely. But this one is 1 that, you
31:58
know, is, is a Matt song. Do you know what I mean?
32:01
Like, you know, that it he it's coming up that he's going to
32:03
sing and that's not why I've ranked it low.
32:06
I've ranked it low because it is soppy and sad and that's just
32:10
not busted for me. I do have a quote from Matt that
32:13
we'll share a little bit later on.
32:15
And I think he probably feels the same way that I do.
32:17
So I feel like me and Matt are on the same wavelength, babe.
32:20
So, you know, it's all good. So this song is very, very sad.
32:26
And for those of you that haven't heard this song, it's
32:30
pretty much about heartbreak. And you know, I think one of the
32:34
things I love about Busted is they know how to write.
32:36
They knew how to write because obviously a lot of their songs
32:39
were written a long time ago. They knew how to write for their
32:42
target audience because their target audience with this young
32:47
was sad little 15 year old Bee who'd just been broken up within
32:51
the cafeteria at school. You know what I mean?
32:54
Like these were the people that like they were writing for the
32:58
people that were going through the same sort of things.
33:01
The majority of us have been through some sort of teenage
33:05
heartbreak. Not everyone, but the majority
33:08
of us. And for those of us that us that
33:10
have and want to occasionally reflect on it because I think it
33:16
makes you, it's growth. You know, it's growth.
33:19
I think that songs like this generous.
33:21
Yeah, it is. I think songs like this make you
33:23
think back and make you think about those times and think
33:26
about how you weren't the only one going through that sort of
33:29
pain. You know, I think we've also had
33:32
a lot of people writing in and we're going to share some of
33:35
your stories a little bit later on.
33:37
But I think that, like we said at the beginning of this
33:40
episode, we wanted to be a little bit more vulnerable with
33:42
you all because we are a very upbeat, uplifting podcaster.
33:46
We like to think we are. We probably just moan about work
33:48
and being parents most of the time.
33:52
But there's there's a line specifically that does hit me
33:56
every time you it's the Matt Willis first wonder.
33:59
If it's the same one because I have a line.
34:01
Oh, do you? OK, well, mine's mine's the Matt
34:05
Willis 1st and hit. It's the bit where he says you
34:09
don't have to say a word. It's in your eyes.
34:11
What can I do to convince you? We need more time?
34:13
And it gets me every time I hear it because it takes me back,
34:16
like to a specific moment in my life where I can hear myself
34:22
saying that in my head. Do you get what I mean?
34:26
I was 17. I was in my first year at
34:31
college. I, I had just sort of started to
34:34
be really comfortable with who I was as a person.
34:37
I'd left school, I'd left bullying and horrible people
34:40
behind me and I had what I thought was the man of my dreams
34:46
at the time. Obviously I was 17 and very,
34:49
very naive, but we'd been together for like 2 years.
34:52
We were at school, we were, everybody was rooting for us.
34:55
We were very much like, that's the school couple that people
34:58
thought were really going to make it and then we just didn't.
35:02
And I think that like that bit, there I go.
35:05
I go back to sitting in the cafeteria and having that
35:08
conversation and and that was it.
35:10
I remember looking at him thinking, you're breaking up
35:12
with me and I did not know what to say.
35:16
Like I was just like, and and it was almost like I think was
35:21
specifically with those words. What can I do to convince you
35:24
that we need more time? I I was I did kept say it and I
35:27
remember I can remember specifically saying let's just
35:30
wait a bit. Let's try and work on it.
35:32
Let's let's work together. We just need to communicate
35:34
like, you know, it doesn't need to be over.
35:38
But that that was that was his decision had been made before he
35:41
walked into that room that day. And I, I and also you.
35:46
You shouldn't have to convince someone to love you.
35:48
And I think now. I wish I could tell.
35:51
I wish I could tell. I was just going to say the same
35:54
thing because. Yeah, this song, reading through
35:59
the lyrics, it, it actually describes my first major breakup
36:04
genuinely if like. So tell me why I'm swimming
36:08
against the tide. I'm praying for a lifeline
36:11
because I'm losing you. So tell me why you don't care
36:13
enough to try. Are you giving up this fight?
36:16
Because I can't stand why it stand as you and I genuinely
36:19
think. Goosebumps.
36:20
You reading those lyrics? I'm like.
36:22
Yeah, it's if you like singing it, it's like, oh, it's cheesy,
36:26
it's cute, it's sad, it's soppy, whatever.
36:28
But when you read them, it's poetry like, and it's exactly
36:33
how I wish I could tell younger me what happens now, because I
36:41
wish younger me didn't have to feel those things.
36:43
Oh my gosh, 100%. If I could go back and and say
36:46
to my 17 year old self do not sit there and beg him to love
36:50
you because that's what I did. That's what I did.
36:54
I was trying to convince him to to love me.
36:57
What the fuck? No, no, no, no.
37:00
I. Was embarrassing, Yeah.
37:02
Yeah, it's disgusting. I was so embarrassing.
37:04
I remember thinking back on it now I'm like, why the why did
37:10
you? Why did I say to him, I know?
37:14
Does this mean you won't be at my funeral if I die?
37:20
Oh no, I was so brutal. Honestly, I was like only you
37:27
could. Be that morbid in that moment,
37:29
but it was like. Young me was like, yeah, no,
37:36
seriously though, I was like, like, I wish I could go back and
37:39
be like, girl, stand up. Do not beg.
37:43
Yeah, yeah, I I completely agree.
37:46
I feel like as well now, I think we all have.
37:49
Hindsight is a good thing, isn't it?
37:50
Hindsight is marvellous. We know that.
37:52
Everybody looks back on things that they've done in their life
37:54
and think, Oh my God, why did I do that?
37:57
Why did I say that? But in that moment it is hard,
38:00
it is heartbreak and it is like that.
38:02
You don't care enough to try like you don't like.
38:05
That's how it feels in that moment.
38:06
You don't even want to try, you don't want to make this.
38:08
You want to try to make this any better.
38:09
Because for some of us, it's the first.
38:11
We're not there. Like and I know your situation
38:15
was very similar to mine in that not a clue.
38:17
It came out of the blue one day and I remember I can remember it
38:22
was March. I can remember it was literally
38:25
just over a month after my birthday and he bought me a
38:28
brand new iPod for my birthday, iPod nano in green.
38:32
I remember I remember saying to my mum he just spent £150 on an
38:35
iPod for me and then broke up with me.
38:37
What the fuck is that about? Well, I will like heighten that
38:42
with New Year's Eve asking for your Christmas presents back.
38:46
Oh God oh Lord above. I mean he didn't ask for the
38:52
nano back. I did ask him if he wanted it
38:54
and he said no. He said thank fuck he did
38:57
because I sold it for £150. So at least I made something out
39:00
of that breakup. Or be the reason I sold it is
39:02
because I didn't have a computer that had, I can't even remember
39:07
was it a utorrent or whatever it was that we were using to
39:09
download fake like, you know, illegal music and my iPad, my
39:14
iPod, my iPod was his music. Every single song in there was
39:19
stuff that he'd he thought that I would like and stuff that we
39:23
listened to together. So every time I went to put my
39:26
iPod in I was like oh for fuck's.
39:28
Sake don't want to. Listen to this shit.
39:31
I just sold it. I thought, fuck this.
39:33
I'm not listening to this and crying every time.
39:35
I get you want to put my headphones in.
39:38
But you know, it is hard. And, and we all go through this
39:41
sort of stuff. And I think, you know, again,
39:43
they knew who their target audience was.
39:46
A lot of us young teenage girls going through heartbreak,
39:49
especially like that had already been through it And we we would
39:54
have been 17 ish, you know, like, but I can remember being
39:57
that young teenager who was heartbroken about their breakup.
40:02
And this song can mean so many things.
40:04
And I think especially when we share our listener stories
40:06
later, we had, we had two stories that were that actually
40:11
made me feel really quite emotional and that were about
40:14
loss rather than, and like grief rather than about like
40:17
heartbreak, if that makes sense. And.
40:20
I That's really interesting. I don't think I ever looked at
40:23
this song as like in that way, because I've never lost anybody
40:28
close to me. I don't think I ever have had to
40:31
listen to a song and feel it that way.
40:33
But these ladies telling me their, their stories about, you
40:37
know, what it means to them and, and the stories that they had
40:40
from, from the losses that they'd had in their life.
40:42
And I thought, Oh my God, that's, that's really sad
40:45
because it does link and it does mean things to different people.
40:49
Yeah. People hear songs in different
40:51
ways. Well, it's.
40:52
Like when we talk about like, sorry to bring her up, but like
40:55
when you talk about. I know what you're going to say
40:59
the way, the way. The Taylor Swift things tolerate
41:02
it, Yeah. It's that, though, isn't it?
41:05
That song is literally about an emotionally abusive, you could
41:09
say, relationship between a man and a woman.
41:12
Exactly. Yeah.
41:13
And I, I don't see it. I can.
41:15
I see. It in a different line.
41:16
Completely differently in and it's not like I see it in a
41:19
different light. I hear it in the way that she
41:21
sang it. But one day it just clicked and
41:24
I think I just had a really bad day with that specific person
41:28
and it clicked in my head and I was like, this song is about you
41:31
for me. It's not about a partner or a
41:34
lover. It's about you.
41:35
And this is how I feel about you.
41:37
And she put the words together so well that it can mean so many
41:43
different things on so many different levels.
41:45
And I think, you know, that's exactly what Busted have done
41:47
with losing you. And on that note, I also have a
41:50
bone to pick with Mr Matt Willis because I'm bringing this up now
41:54
before we get too sad, dear emotional.
41:57
Whilst I was looking around online for interviews and things
42:00
about this song, I found an interview with all three of the
42:04
boys from Busted from an interview, an interview with
42:08
Digital Spy in 2018. And Busted said, well, Matt from
42:13
Busted specifically said there's one song that we've never
42:17
played. It's called Losing You.
42:19
We've never played that song. And for a very good reason.
42:22
We don't like it. It's not very good.
42:25
It's quite embarrassing. We will never play that song,
42:29
ever. And they all agreed and laughed.
42:32
That's infuriated me because I didn't actually say my rating
42:36
earlier. My rating is.
42:37
Seven, I didn't ask you. I would.
42:40
I would fully, I would love to hear this song live.
42:44
I think it's poetry and I know he says it's embarrassing or
42:46
whatever, but if you read the lyrics, they don't seem
42:49
embarrassing to me. They just seem really raw.
42:52
I think it's because they're a boy band and because they were
42:55
young and because they're supposed to be these cool, like,
42:58
you know, little bit rebellious type boy band boys.
43:03
But it was a bit soppy for them and it was the only song, you
43:07
know, obviously we've got Sleeping with the Light on and
43:09
that again, we'll get to. But I think when you think, I
43:12
think that's. Cheesier than this.
43:15
Do you? Oh yeah, I suppose that.
43:17
Yes. But I think.
43:18
Because I think the the melody for Losing You is a bit cheese.
43:22
It's the melody is, but I think the lyrics aren't.
43:24
Yeah, I think this is a bit beggy, like without being
43:29
horrible. I'm thinking again back to 17
43:32
year old me who was crying on her knees and begging him not to
43:35
go. Like, it is a bit beggy, isn't
43:37
it? It's like it's, it's all about
43:40
him saying them saying, you know, don't leave me, I'm losing
43:43
you, but don't leave me. I'm still here.
43:45
And why am I, you know, so upset about this?
43:47
And I, I just want you to come back.
43:49
And that's pretty much what it is.
43:50
And I think that's where they're coming from on the whole, we
43:52
don't like it. We think it's embarrassing.
43:54
Yeah, I think sleeping with the light on is still more beggy and
43:59
more. Like it definitely like it
44:01
definitely is. I think it's more, it's
44:03
definitely more well known. People know Sleeping with the
44:05
Lion way more than they know this song.
44:08
Some people that that haven't heard this at all, people that
44:10
I've spoken to haven't even heard this song.
44:12
So again, it's one of those songs that people skip because
44:16
it is soppy and sad and people like Busted for, you know, you
44:20
stupid lying bitch. Who's David?
44:22
She wants to be me. Yeah, she wants.
44:24
To Be Me and Falling for You and you know, all of those songs
44:27
that are a bit more OTT and like exciting and funny and like they
44:32
are very Blink 182. This is not Blink 182.
44:35
Any word? I will say I'm like, I'm
44:39
preaching this song like nobody's business right now as
44:43
if it's my favourite Busted song ever.
44:45
It's not. I much prefer cheesy, poppy,
44:49
funny Busted. I just think this song is
44:52
underrated. Completely agree.
44:57
This week we're going to share some of the stories that you
44:59
guys have sent in. We asked in our stories for you
45:01
guys to send in anything that you felt like you wanted to
45:03
share relating to how this song makes you feel or what it makes
45:06
you think of. We were so humbled by some of
45:09
the stories sent in, and with permission we want to share some
45:12
of them with you, if that's OK. These will all be kept obviously
45:15
completely anonymous. So one of the first messages I
45:19
received was from a lovely young lady who has faced a lot of
45:22
hardship in her life. And this was her message in
45:24
response to the song. My story of heartbreak is losing
45:28
my Big Brother 10 years ago at the age of 30, and I'm only 34
45:32
now. Also, I was bullied all the way
45:34
through school, so I lack a lot of confidence.
45:37
I've. I found this really, this was
45:40
like a, like I said when we were talking about the song, the
45:42
first message that I'd received that made me feel a different
45:45
way about losing you because in my head, it was heartbreaking
45:49
love. And actually this message made
45:51
me think about it in a form of, you know, way of grief.
45:55
Yeah. And what a horrible thing to
45:57
have to go through. But the fact that, you know, I
46:00
know that this lady lives and breathes McFly and Busted.
46:03
And I know that the the bands have brought her a lot of
46:06
happiness over the years from what I can see from the things
46:09
that we've spoken about online and, and her page and things
46:13
like that. So I'm really glad that she has
46:16
has busted and McFly to sort of help her through, but you're not
46:19
on your own. Just know that me and Shannon
46:22
most definitely also also bullied all the way through
46:24
school and confidence for quite a long time.
46:28
And, you know, you're very strong, and thank you so much
46:31
for sharing your story with us. Yeah, 100%.
46:35
Another message that we got through said I can remember
46:39
listening to the song years and years ago when it first came
46:42
out. I was absolutely besotted with
46:44
this girl. And I really thought that the
46:46
feeling was mutual. But in the end, she cut me out
46:49
and ended up dating one of my friends.
46:52
Oh, brutal. That's brutal.
46:54
I'm so sorry that happened to you because that is like, you
46:58
wouldn't wish that upon your worst.
47:01
No. So not something that I've, I
47:03
mean I've I've definitely been besotted with someone and it not
47:06
been mutual, but I don't think I've ever had anybody go for one
47:09
of the friends. That is no very difficult
47:13
situation. Thank you for sharing another
47:15
one from another lady who has looked at this song from a
47:19
grooving point of view. I lost my brother to terminal
47:21
cancer in May. He was only diagnosed in January
47:24
and had just turned to 33. He was a huge McFly and Busted
47:27
fan too. And I played some of their songs
47:29
at the wake. I really liked this came in two
47:32
separate messages. She she sort of told me about
47:33
the loss of her brother, first of all, and then and then after
47:36
I responded, explained, you know, how much he loved Busted
47:39
and McFly as well. And and the fact that she played
47:42
the songs and I just thought it was a really lovely.
47:45
It had gone from, you know, sharing the heartbreak and then
47:48
it immediately she went on to how they connected through this
47:52
music. And I thought that was a really.
47:53
Lovely. Yeah, and, you know, it wasn't
47:56
just all, you know, the sad side of of and this lady also went
48:00
into, to more and discussions about, you know, the other
48:04
things that she'd been through that have also been very
48:06
difficult. But love that she she related to
48:10
McFly and Busted and how her and her brother had that connection.
48:13
So thank you for sharing. I I yeah, I really appreciated
48:18
reading that one. Another one says This is a
48:22
different way of looking at I suppose.
48:23
The other one says this song reminds me of losing my best
48:27
friend. We were kids and people drift
48:29
apart. But now when I listen back to
48:32
this song, I just think of her and our friendship and what
48:35
could have been. I think that we probably could
48:39
both relate to that one, don't you think?
48:42
Yeah, deeply, I'd say. Yeah, 100%.
48:46
I think a lot of people have probably drifted apart from
48:48
friends along the way, but. Yeah, and I love, I like, I like
48:54
how she's, she's completely at peace with it, though.
48:56
It's like we people drift apart like that's how it was.
48:59
And it's no one's fault, kind of, but it's just like the
49:02
reminiscing when they listen back, it's.
49:05
Yeah, we've all and you know what I was going to say,
49:08
sometimes it's not even the song like losing you that, that, that
49:11
the lyrics really take you back and make you think about those
49:13
people. But sometimes it's a song that
49:15
that reminds you of that person. I've got a friend that I, I used
49:21
to spend my living waking day all day, all night with.
49:24
We used to, you know, every weekend we were together, we
49:27
would always go out together. It was somebody that I was with
49:30
all the time. And then things changed quite a
49:32
bit. And now whenever I hear it
49:35
sounds really funny, but I hear Ke$ha.
49:40
With you there. Reminds me of being very drunk
49:44
in a club and you know, just being in my I was with.
49:47
Her I literally, I was just thinking of a specific person
49:51
and a song that maybe isn't soppy and sad because there are
49:56
soppy and sad ones that remind me of them as well.
49:58
But Jason Derülo want you to want me.
50:02
I can't listen to that song without thinking of that person.
50:06
And that's so random, isn't it? Because it's such a bop.
50:10
Yeah, 100% is a really weird and like when it comes on and you're
50:13
like, you get a bit sad about it and then you're like, why am I
50:15
sad? It's Ke$ha in the morning
50:21
feeling like, no, we're not going to say the name, don't
50:23
worry, Block that bit out. Yeah, I completely get that.
50:29
I completely get that. We've I think a lot of people
50:31
will relate to that one. And the last one, this song
50:33
relates to an almost relationship for me.
50:36
We weren't quite together, but when I listened to it, it speaks
50:38
to how I felt at the time. I wish he cared enough to try
50:41
again. That last line is just so
50:44
relatable to the song, isn't it? It's exactly what they're saying
50:46
in the song. So a very, very relatable, a
50:50
couple of relatable stories. Thank you so much to all of you
50:53
that sent your stories in. We will probably keep asking for
50:57
things like this over the next, well, probably all of the
51:01
episodes that are to come. God knows how long this podcast
51:03
is going to go on for. We're going to be here till
51:04
we're old and grey because there's a lot of bloody songs to
51:07
get through, so please feel free to send them in.
51:10
They're always kept anonymous. We don't share any on the
51:12
socials, they only come onto the podcast and we don't share any
51:15
names. So yeah, if you feel like you
51:16
want to write in, please do. This week's In the Wild section.
51:21
We have two very important things to talk about.
51:24
Firstly, for those of you watching, I'm A Celebrity, you
51:26
will have noticed that our wonderful King of the Jungle
51:28
2024, Mr Danny Jones headed back over to Ounces to crown the new
51:32
King slash queen of the jungle. No spoilers for those of you who
51:36
haven't caught up yet, I've added this sentence in because I
51:39
haven't watched the final, even though it's very obvious who
51:43
wins because it's all over social media.
51:45
But I haven't watched it and I would like to watch it, so I
51:47
thought I'd keep the spoilers just in case.
51:50
Obviously Danny became King of the jungle last year and I am
51:53
living for all of the clips that being shared about his win at
51:57
the moment. Because it's taking me back
51:59
because I loved his season. I watched that religiously and I
52:02
think obviously it's because he was in it.
52:05
And I think it's, it's nice to be reminded of all the things
52:10
that we love about Danny and like to see him in his normal
52:13
everyday self. Do you know what I mean?
52:15
Without being which like front man Danny, I, I found a clip and
52:23
we talked about this a little bit before, before we started, I
52:28
found a clip of Danny on like the I'm A Celebrity X or
52:31
whatever it's called. It's not called that.
52:33
But you know, the extra, extra thing that where he talks to
52:36
Joel and there's a lady on there as well.
52:38
I can't remember her name. And they were talking about why
52:43
Danny wanted to get to the final And she says to him, did you
52:47
want to get to the fine? Like did you want to get to the
52:50
final just so you could do cyclone something along those
52:53
lines. And he said, no, I just really
52:55
wanted to wear the hot pants. And Joel says, well, that's what
53:01
the viewers wanted to see. And Danny says and the boys.
53:04
And then there was this very, very strange exchange about how
53:09
Harry wants to watch Danny in hot pants and how because he's
53:15
the drummer, it's he's the drummer because he just wants to
53:18
see Danny from behind. And I just thought.
53:21
I relate to you, Harry. I relate to you.
53:25
Never related to a drummer more and I wonder.
53:29
If you don't know, play the drums.
53:30
Yeah, exactly. I wonder if you remember you
53:33
100% do the snake down the trousers Palava from.
53:37
After this, yes. Yeah, there was AI Think there
53:40
was a bit of a meme going. Round funny.
53:42
Of like a full on Python coming out of his trousers.
53:47
So funny, I love it was great. I just.
53:49
Remember, and you know what I remember about that scene?
53:52
It's just his laugh. His laugh was so funny.
53:55
He was just going. It's infectious, this is.
53:58
The name, he's just laughing and I was laughing because he was
54:01
laughing and it was just so funny.
54:03
I just love how down to earth he is and he's just like, yes, he's
54:05
just getting on with it, but dude's got a bloody snake down
54:08
his trousers of. Course he does.
54:11
He's Danny Jones. Also also take us back because
54:14
that was probably the first time I've ever seen Danny Jones's
54:17
pants. True.
54:20
I still sneak peek of his boxer area.
54:24
OK, let's stop before we get out of hand.
54:28
Secondly, we have to mention our wonderful Mr Tom Fletcher and
54:33
his absolutely incredible performance on Strictly Come
54:36
Down SIM. How could we not?
54:38
I watched it and then I watched it again and my mum was staying
54:41
over so I made her watch. I was like, there's a person in
54:46
that costume, Mum. Oh my God, look at the costume.
54:49
Can we just take a moment to appreciate that obviously Tom
54:53
Fletcher is the most talented little bean in the whole world.
54:56
I just love his energy. And he's very musical theatre,
55:01
even though he isn't, he is. Do you know what I mean?
55:03
Like as as Mt girlies. And for those of you out there,
55:07
I know that some of you are musical theatre girlies because
55:09
you've all messaged me and said, oh, I'm 30 and I like musical
55:12
theatre. Do we love you?
55:14
Thank you so much for being here.
55:16
Give me life. I think you can just tell when
55:19
somebody's got that, like in their body.
55:21
Do you know what I mean? And like the way he.
55:23
Stood. It was very John Valjean.
55:26
You think it was very John Valjean.
55:29
It was very tall and broad and the way he was standing with his
55:33
chin and like, it was just very like that.
55:35
I'm just picturing Jean Valjean singing it like his his big
55:39
ballads and. When my mum watched it with me,
55:42
she said to me, oh, you can hardly recognise his voice.
55:45
I was like, it's because he's pronouncing all his letters.
55:48
He's speaking. Very clear.
55:49
He's not trying to be boy band Tom.
55:53
This is a theatre. Yeah.
55:56
He's clearly changed his whole everything.
55:59
Like if you're a Tom fan or like a McFly fan or whatever, you
56:03
know who it is because you, you know his voice.
56:05
But the fact that my mum was like, oh, it doesn't really
56:09
sound like him because he knows how to just turn outside to pin
56:13
his vocal cords. Yeah, exactly.
56:16
And can we just have a moment to appreciate the performers that
56:19
both play Paddington? Oh, madness.
56:22
So how cool is it that it's played by two people like, and I
56:26
genuinely when it when the the videos and and things were
56:30
released of of the performers and them talking about, you
56:33
know, the fact that somebody's in the suit and somebody's doing
56:36
the voice. I genuinely did not know how
56:39
they control the face. Because we all know that the
56:42
most amazing performer, Artie Shah is the on stage Paddington.
56:47
She is in the bear suit. She plays the bear.
56:50
Do you want to share that that what you said to me earlier
56:52
about the the quote that? Oh yeah.
56:54
So I watched a little video about her.
56:57
Well, about the bear in general, I think it was Richard someone
57:04
he was talking about. He was he he has his own
57:07
podcast. It's it's like comedian man.
57:09
And he was basically talking about this clip and he was
57:13
saying about the bear and he was saying about her and how she how
57:18
she got into role, how she how she got ready to be Paddington
57:24
was she sat in a sauna fully clothed every day for a month.
57:29
We've all been in costumes and especially like when we've been
57:32
in theatre shows and stuff, they get uncomfortable and they get
57:35
very sweaty and gross and minging.
57:38
To think about how hot she is in that film in costume.
57:41
I once dressed up as Pudsey Bear for about 20 minutes in my
57:44
college and I was like Nah, this is too hot, never imagine being
57:48
like that for hours under lights.
57:52
Yeah, exactly. And I was looking at, I used to
57:55
watch a programme when I was younger called Bear and the Big
57:58
Blue House, and I now watch it all night.
58:01
So I genuinely have sat, sat at my TV staring at this bear as an
58:08
adult trying to work out how the hell somebody does that costume
58:13
because obviously there's somebody in it doing the arms
58:17
because, but how can you do the arms and move the eyes and the
58:21
mouth at the same time? It does not work.
58:23
So I've worked I've I just say I worked out.
58:25
I found the video. So Aarti Shah is the on stage
58:28
performer. She's in the suit.
58:30
She works the the arms and the legs.
58:32
And obviously she has her head in the head of Paddington.
58:35
However, it's James Hameed who is the voice of Paddington.
58:40
He sings and speaks, but he also controls the facial expressions
58:44
and they're controlled by a hand control where he like, opens and
58:49
closes his hand for the bear's mouth to speak and then moves it
58:52
for the head to the like eyes to open and close.
58:56
It's insane. Having to do all of that and
58:59
sing like perform at the same time is very Avenue Q, let's put
59:04
it that way. It is very Ave.
59:06
Qi just thought it was absolutely incredible.
59:09
Doesn't it make you respect Artishara a little bit more as
59:12
well though, because she's got to walk around not knowing
59:15
really what's going on with she's got no control.
59:18
She can't even really see because she's got this Big Bear
59:21
head on. Apparently there's like a small
59:24
area, the bottom of Paddington's head where she looks through
59:28
like a, like a, like a sheer kind of.
59:31
Yeah, but it's not clear because obviously if it was cleared,
59:34
we'd see her face. It's covered in fur, so.
59:37
But it's the fact that she's got no control apart from her move,
59:40
her movement. Exactly, exactly.
59:44
I also I'd like to share a, I'd like to share a quote from
59:48
artist jar that I found. And it wasn't a video.
59:51
It was like it was a video of a quote, if that makes sense.
59:55
So don't don't quote me and tell me that I'm wrong on this,
59:57
because there are people out there who have already messaged
1:00:00
us to tell us that we're wrong about certain things.
1:00:03
None of our things are facts. We talk about things that we
1:00:06
have heard and that we have seen.
1:00:07
We are not reporters. We are not, you know, people
1:00:11
that give yourself true fact as it is.
1:00:14
However, the quote that I saw from Aunty Shar was about how
1:00:17
that when she was younger, she was bullied so badly for being
1:00:21
small that she genuinely considered having leg
1:00:25
lengthening surgery, which I didn't know until last year was
1:00:28
a real thing. Because there's a guy online, I
1:00:29
don't know if you've seen who's had his legs lengthened.
1:00:32
It's a very awfully hard and long and painful procedure and
1:00:37
healing process. But the thought that that the
1:00:39
fact that she actually thought about doing that and she said
1:00:42
that how glad she is that she didn't do that because now she's
1:00:45
got to play the role of a lifetime because she would never
1:00:49
have been cast for her West End debut as Paddington if she had
1:00:53
had that surgery. And that goes to show, like for
1:00:56
a lot of us, that went through hardship as as kids.
1:00:59
And unfortunately, our children are also growing up in in an age
1:01:03
where they're going to have to go through that as well.
1:01:05
And the thought of my little girl coming home in tears after
1:01:08
being bullied at school. She's 2.
1:01:09
And I already think about that because I know that that's
1:01:11
something that I experienced so much when I was younger.
1:01:15
The fact that, like, you can't look to the future and see, you
1:01:18
know, what you're like when you're older.
1:01:20
And I'm so lucky to have everything that I have.
1:01:22
I couldn't care less about what those boys said to me when I was
1:01:25
at school now, but it did shape who I was as a human being.
1:01:28
And I think that the quote that I found from Artie was very
1:01:32
relatable. And I think that it's a lot of
1:01:34
us that feel the same way. And how lovely is that as a role
1:01:37
model to show that you know, you can stand up and, and be what
1:01:42
you want to be, no matter how big or small or fat or thin or
1:01:46
whatever colour your hair is or your skin or you know, your
1:01:48
sexuality or whatever, it doesn't matter.
1:01:51
It doesn't matter anymore. And all those things that we are
1:01:54
ripped apart for when we're younger, they become who we are
1:01:56
and they become like the hilarious are being.
1:01:59
Because if you, if you think about it in a literal aspect, I
1:02:04
was bullied because of the colour of my hair.
1:02:06
Yeah. So I was bleaching it from the
1:02:09
age of, I don't know, 1314. And then and now I don't know my
1:02:16
natural colour because when my roots grow out, it's not that
1:02:19
colour anymore. I actually dye my hair the
1:02:22
colour I was trying to avoid. Yeah.
1:02:25
Back to the the gingery orange that we all love you.
1:02:27
In. Yeah, exactly.
1:02:30
So completely. Agree.
1:02:32
At least that's one thing that like obviously isn't life
1:02:34
changing like surgery, but it's just like even small things like
1:02:37
that you think are going to change your whole.
1:02:40
Like I thought dyeing my hair was going to change my entire
1:02:43
life but now I actually just die back.
1:02:46
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Coming up next week, we've moved back over to the McFly side of
1:03:30
things where we are talking about the fifth song on Room on
1:03:32
the 3rd Floor, Hypnotised. There are more McFly versus
1:03:36
Busted quizzes on the way and TuneIn to hear what we would
1:03:39
have chosen for this year's tour set list.
1:03:42
As always, keep your playlist loud.
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And happiness in your hearts. Bye bye.
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Bye.