Latest / Brian Thomas / Citizen Watchdog - The Rising 15 - Motions, Reparations, and Their Implications
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Things that you have never seen. Hear it from the
- 0:02Speaker 1: voices you've never seen before. You can always trust never
- 0:05Speaker 1: On fifty five krs the talk station hit A six
- 0:11Speaker 1: ififty five kerr ce DE talk Station. Brian Thomas pleased
- 0:14Speaker 1: as I can be to look across the board here
- 0:17Speaker 1: and see Citizen Watchdog Todd Zenzer in studio and while
- 0:21Speaker 1: what an eye opening discussion we're gonna have Todd Zenzer's
- 0:24Speaker 1: in studio. His new podcast, Citizen Watchdog is the name
- 0:26Speaker 1: of it. Find it. You're gonna love hearing about it.
- 0:28Speaker 1: Talks about the subject better we're gonna be talking about
- 0:30Speaker 1: this morning. Uh So, thanks Joe Strekker for producing it,
- 0:33Speaker 1: and thank you Todd Zenzer lending your experience as a
- 0:36Speaker 1: former US Inspector General. As a I joked about it
- 0:40Speaker 1: going into the break at the top of there is
- 0:42Speaker 1: kind of like a hobby during retirement. Man, you are
- 0:44Speaker 1: closely analyzing the expenditures of the City of Cincinnati, and
- 0:49Speaker 1: the timing of you being here could not be better.
- 0:51Speaker 1: Christopher Smithman was on this morning venting his spleen in
- 0:55Speaker 1: a special Spleen Done edition for this because the city
- 0:58Speaker 1: of Cincinnati is talking about a five percent across the
- 1:00Speaker 1: board cut, including cuts to public safety after infusing five
- 1:05Speaker 1: million plus dollars last year. Because we have a public
- 1:07Speaker 1: safety problem, they want to cut police and fire, claiming
- 1:10Speaker 1: we got a budget problem. They want to increase taxes
- 1:13Speaker 1: as well. Todd Zinzer, they have a hole to fill.
- 1:15Speaker 1: But whoa, whoa, whoa, Todd Zenzer. You told me before
- 1:19Speaker 1: we started talking on air this morning that we don't
- 1:21Speaker 1: have a budget problem in the city. Good to have
- 1:23Speaker 1: you back in, my friend.
- 1:24Speaker 2: Thank you, Brian.
- 1:25Speaker 1: No, there isn't a budget problem.
- 1:27Speaker 2: No, I don't think there's a budget problem. They they
- 1:29Speaker 2: really have spent a lot of money just recently, for example,
- 1:34Speaker 2: on things that are not really towards public safety for example,
- 1:39Speaker 2: or any any of them must do type of things
- 1:41Speaker 2: that the city.
- 1:42Speaker 1: Has, road bridges, infrastructure, public safety, the core functions of government.
- 1:46Speaker 2: Yes, they just spent three point eight million dollars last week, folks,
- 1:52Speaker 2: on a dozen different purposes. Three of them, for example,
- 1:57Speaker 2: almost six hundred thousand dollars I think, on efforts to
- 2:02Speaker 2: help illegal immigrants who need representation against the government.
- 2:08Speaker 1: Oh well, of course that's a core function of cities
- 2:10Speaker 1: since a government.
- 2:11Speaker 2: Right, So there are things like that just a corp
- 2:13Speaker 2: of weeks ago they approved twelve million dollars for a
- 2:18Speaker 2: new solar array.
- 2:19Speaker 1: Oh you ah man, you you came in here to
- 2:22Speaker 1: piss me off.
- 2:24Speaker 2: And just I think part of this three point eight
- 2:27Speaker 2: this past week or this week, I think it was
- 2:29Speaker 2: this week actually four hundred and fifty thousand dollars to
- 2:33Speaker 2: help green to promote the Green workforce, which I don't
- 2:38Speaker 2: really know what that is, but those are the kind
- 2:40Speaker 2: of things that they spend money on that they.
- 2:44Speaker 1: Really don't need to the green workforce. Yeah, well, I
- 2:49Speaker 1: suppose that's an opportunity for party loyalists to get a
- 2:52Speaker 1: salary and probably do nothing but maybe wear t shirts
- 2:55Speaker 1: promoting the environment or something.
- 2:57Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so much. There's so much of that, Brian,
- 3:00Speaker 2: And I think what they're trying to do with this
- 3:02Speaker 2: reparations issue is in the Green New Deal or the
- 3:06Speaker 2: Green New Green Cincinnati Plan, they put the plan in place,
- 3:12Speaker 2: and then throughout the year they spend money, and the
- 3:15Speaker 2: justification is it to implement the Green Cincinnati Plan. So
- 3:19Speaker 2: the cost of that particular program doesn't need to need
- 3:24Speaker 2: to be justified on its own, it's justified by the
- 3:27Speaker 2: Green Cincinnati Plan. They're going to do the same thing
- 3:30Speaker 2: with this reparations plan, is they're going to They're going
- 3:32Speaker 2: to set it up and then as they spend money
- 3:34Speaker 2: throughout the year on things that tangentially fit that, they'll
- 3:39Speaker 2: call it reparations.
- 3:41Speaker 1: So they will hire non government organizations out there and
- 3:47Speaker 1: separately pay them to implement manager otherwise deal with the
- 3:53Speaker 1: separate the overarching five million dollar reparations program.
- 3:56Speaker 2: That's what I think is going to happen, and the
- 3:59Speaker 2: reparations ish you. At least my involvement with it goes
- 4:02Speaker 2: back to the railroad campaign. Two weeks before the election
- 4:07Speaker 2: or the referendum, the city council, the vice mayor in particular,
- 4:14Speaker 2: entered a motion for the Rising fifteen railway fund they
- 4:21Speaker 2: wanted to take. They wanted to establish a Rising fifteen
- 4:25Speaker 2: railway fund and take ten percent of whatever the city
- 4:29Speaker 2: gets in a distribution and put it in that fund.
- 4:33Speaker 2: And they did that two weeks before the election. And
- 4:38Speaker 2: when I saw that it was well, they were just
- 4:40Speaker 2: trying to get support from the black community which was
- 4:43Speaker 2: wishy washy on the sale of the railroad. And then
- 4:47Speaker 2: after the election where they actually won, the motions went away,
- 4:54Speaker 2: oh really, and it came back in January of twenty five.
- 5:00Speaker 2: That's when they introduced the reparations, the Rising fifteen Railway Fund,
- 5:07Speaker 2: the Rising fifteen Economic Development Fund, and I went down
- 5:12Speaker 2: and objected just based on the socioeconomic data that they
- 5:16Speaker 2: said supported the motion. It consisted of three columns, the
- 5:22Speaker 2: fifteen neighborhoods, the median income of those neighborhoods, and the
- 5:28Speaker 2: racial makeup of those neighborhoods.
- 5:31Speaker 1: That was it.
- 5:32Speaker 2: That was it, And so I did. I went down
- 5:35Speaker 2: to city council and I told them I didn't think
- 5:37Speaker 2: was appropriate to make government funding decisions based on race,
- 5:41Speaker 2: which this absolutely was. So I don't know if that
- 5:45Speaker 2: had an impact, but they did not vote on that motion.
- 5:49Speaker 2: And so the next thing you had, also in January
- 5:53Speaker 2: of twenty five for the Rising fifteen is they wanted
- 5:56Speaker 2: to take the railway money and apply it to sidewalk
- 6:00Speaker 2: a sidewalk repair program where if you're delinquent in fixing
- 6:03Speaker 2: your sidewalk and you've been penalized, they wanted to use
- 6:08Speaker 2: railway money to fix those sidewalks and relieve the property
- 6:11Speaker 2: owner of that penalty.
- 6:13Speaker 1: Well, that's not property, that is the responsibility of this city.
- 6:16Speaker 1: In the first place. I know, so this is another
- 6:18Speaker 1: social welfare program in disguise.
- 6:20Speaker 2: Yes, So, I think the thing about the reparations motion
- 6:25Speaker 2: is that there's no question that Cincinnati has a segregation problem.
- 6:30Speaker 2: There's no question about that.
- 6:33Speaker 1: And the.
- 6:36Speaker 2: Reparations is really just a label. It's a charged or
- 6:41Speaker 2: a loaded word that people see it and they think
- 6:44Speaker 2: that means that we're going to go and pay payments
- 6:49Speaker 2: to people whose ancestors were enslaved. That's not what this
- 6:53Speaker 2: reparations program is. This is really just a housing program
- 6:57Speaker 2: that they've labeled reparations.
- 7:00Speaker 1: Well, and the predicate is there used to be a
- 7:04Speaker 1: discrimination in the real estate market. Agents were told do
- 7:07Speaker 1: not show these particular properties to black people, those zoning issues.
- 7:13Speaker 1: All of that was eradicated over the years and deemed unlawful,
- 7:16Speaker 1: which exactly was. But you said, we do have a
- 7:19Speaker 1: segregation problem in the city of Cincinnati.
- 7:21Speaker 2: Oh yeah. The poverty, for example, is totally concentrated in
- 7:26Speaker 2: the West End and neighborhoods like Avondale. It's just concentrated
- 7:33Speaker 2: there because of these zoning and property of policies that
- 7:39Speaker 2: existed so many years ago.
- 7:42Speaker 1: Which continued to this day.
- 7:44Speaker 2: I get the impression to a certain extent. Yeah, the
- 7:47Speaker 2: big issue was, the big boiling point was the Kenyan
- 7:52Speaker 2: Bar neighborhood if you've never heard of that. That was
- 7:55Speaker 2: like the Queensgate area and the west part of downtown.
- 8:00Speaker 2: It was the largest neighborhood in the city back in
- 8:03Speaker 2: the day. This was in the sixties, I guess. And
- 8:08Speaker 2: that's when they took I seventy five and took it
- 8:12Speaker 2: right through Kenyon Bar. They displaced all the residents there
- 8:16Speaker 2: and those residents had to move and it concentrated in
- 8:20Speaker 2: the West End and then into these other areas. And
- 8:23Speaker 2: that's what that's what the city's dealing with in terms
- 8:26Speaker 2: of the concentration of poverty.
- 8:28Speaker 1: Okay, so they feel they have a moral high ground
- 8:31Speaker 1: to allocate this money, yes, all right. Now, let me
- 8:35Speaker 1: just ask a very practical question. Even if it's the
- 8:37Speaker 1: greatest idea since sliced bread, five million dollars, when you're
- 8:42Speaker 1: dealing with a housing issue, I can't see that going
- 8:45Speaker 1: a long way. Todd, That's right, that's exactly right. Symbolic.
- 8:49Speaker 2: Yes, it's very symbolic, and it's very consistent with what
- 8:53Speaker 2: this city council does. You've got the financial freedom blueprint.
- 8:58Speaker 2: You've got the Act for Sincy that spreads out all
- 9:02Speaker 2: this money. It's called it's called spreading the peanut butter.
- 9:06Speaker 2: And they keep spreading the peanut butter and it gets
- 9:08Speaker 2: thinner and thinner and thinner. Yeah, because they're trying to
- 9:12Speaker 2: accommodate all of these social services and social justice purposes.
- 9:18Speaker 1: Well, I think I made a comment to you on
- 9:21Speaker 1: the heels of a different way of putting it. You know,
- 9:24Speaker 1: you can be a bleeding heart and think you need
- 9:26Speaker 1: to help and fund and you know every worthy cause
- 9:30Speaker 1: or maybe even not worthy cause that comes down the road,
- 9:32Speaker 1: but you're eventually going to bleed to death. That's right,
- 9:36Speaker 1: And that's where we find ourselves. So it's not that
- 9:39Speaker 1: it's not that we we actually have a budget problem,
- 9:41Speaker 1: but it's brought about by that reality. You don't need
- 9:44Speaker 1: to spend all this money. It's ultimately a pointless gesture,
- 9:47Speaker 1: virtue signaling. It allows you to hire all of these
- 9:50Speaker 1: weal or these political loyalists who basically can go out
- 9:53Speaker 1: in the world, use up those funds and accomplish nothing.
- 9:56Speaker 2: That's right.
- 9:57Speaker 1: Okay, that's it boiled down in a nutshell. We're gonna
- 9:59Speaker 1: pause right now. We'll bring Todd zzerbeca waits you here
- 10:01Speaker 1: where some of these this money goes? He say, A
- 10:03Speaker 1: bar a nineteen. If you have Karos de talk station.
- 10:07Speaker 1: Citizen Watchdog is the podcast. Citizen Watchdog is the man
- 10:11Speaker 1: who is Todd Zinzer in studio and Tom, I'm to
- 10:13Speaker 1: give you props because you're exposing the nefarious reality where
- 10:17Speaker 1: our money, our City of Cincinnati taxpayer dollars being spent
- 10:20Speaker 1: by this runaway council and mayor. You remind me of
- 10:23Speaker 1: the citizen journalists who expose well, they think they knew
- 10:26Speaker 1: about it, it had been reported on a lot, but actually
- 10:28Speaker 1: blew up the whole Minneapolis Leering Center thing. Yes, he
- 10:31Speaker 1: walked around, he saw what was going on, he reported it,
- 10:34Speaker 1: and boom, that's you. With regard to the expenses, the
- 10:38Speaker 1: City of Cincinnati is engaging out of the projects they're
- 10:40Speaker 1: engaging in, so they claim they got a financial crisis.
- 10:43Speaker 1: They want to raise the taxes. They're talking about a
- 10:44Speaker 1: five percent across the board cut, including fire and safety,
- 10:49Speaker 1: and you're pointing out that they spend gobs and gobs
- 10:52Speaker 1: of money basically virtue signaling with no hope of actual
- 10:55Speaker 1: real something realistic coming from these endeavors by spending it
- 10:59Speaker 1: on some of the programs you mentioned before. Tell everybody
- 11:03Speaker 1: about the bar, Well, this has.
- 11:05Speaker 2: Been on the agenda for a long time. I think
- 11:08Speaker 2: it's been in the works for a long time. But
- 11:10Speaker 2: they've been appropriating money to something called the West End
- 11:13Speaker 2: Sports Bar and Grill, and my sense is that it's
- 11:17Speaker 2: a minority owned business that's been you know, they're trying
- 11:20Speaker 2: to revitalize in the West End and so every once
- 11:24Speaker 2: in a while they'll they'll put money into it. And
- 11:27Speaker 2: that's not uncommon for this council to do that.
- 11:30Speaker 1: But how is it, I mean, here again pointing out
- 11:34Speaker 1: that you're the one that's exposing this, there is I
- 11:36Speaker 1: don't know that there is any local media outlets five
- 11:40Speaker 1: nine twelve, Fox nineteen. They have reporters since they acquire
- 11:43Speaker 1: Scott Wartman should be on the job, don't we Is
- 11:45Speaker 1: there no one who else in the world who's paying
- 11:47Speaker 1: attention to this? I mean, these are really really it
- 11:53Speaker 1: just sounds like you're revealing a level of corruption that
- 11:55Speaker 1: my brain can't quite comprehend this morning, toodd.
- 11:57Speaker 2: Well, I think everybody's gotten used to the council spending
- 12:01Speaker 2: money like this these for example, this three point eight
- 12:04Speaker 2: million that they approved this week. Those motions are sprinkled
- 12:10Speaker 2: throughout the agenda. So what I do and I get
- 12:12Speaker 2: an agenda for the city Council, I put it through
- 12:15Speaker 2: AI and say simplify this for me and outline it.
- 12:18Speaker 2: And it takes all this legal mumbo jumbo and language
- 12:22Speaker 2: in the agenda takes all that out and just lists
- 12:25Speaker 2: what's happening. And so I take that and then I
- 12:28Speaker 2: post it on my Facebook.
- 12:29Speaker 1: And that's why you need to follow Todd Zenzer on
- 12:31Speaker 1: Facebook and also listen to his citizen Watchdalk podcast. Well
- 12:35Speaker 1: what else is revealing here? I know there's an opportunity
- 12:38Speaker 1: for City of Cincinnati to chime in on this. And
- 12:40Speaker 1: I want to remind listeners in the city March eleventh,
- 12:44Speaker 1: North Avondale Rec Center at five point thirty you can
- 12:47Speaker 1: talk to them about the budget and the potential cuts
- 12:50Speaker 1: coming your way. Maybe bring Todd Zenzer's list of things
- 12:52Speaker 1: they actually spent money on and say why the hell
- 12:55Speaker 1: did you do this and didn't pave my street? How
- 12:58Speaker 1: many road models we have outstands, Todd that have been
- 13:00Speaker 1: building up over the years. I don't know, it's insane though,
- 13:03Speaker 1: I mean it's a lot. Okay, that's that's infrastructure falling apart.
- 13:07Speaker 1: That is a screaming, waving red flag. That's a broken
- 13:10Speaker 1: window that needs to be fixed to bring in more
- 13:12Speaker 1: business and industry. Right Todd, That's right, damn straight. March sixteenth,
- 13:16Speaker 1: five point thirty pm, Sailor Park Rec Center to chime
- 13:19Speaker 1: in on these budget suggestions in the across the board cuts,
- 13:23Speaker 1: what else do you have on your list?
- 13:24Speaker 2: Well, last last year, since since we just kicked off
- 13:27Speaker 2: the budget process last year, I went to one of
- 13:29Speaker 2: these public hearings and I suggested to them that they
- 13:34Speaker 2: should have the solicitor's office tell them what does the
- 13:38Speaker 2: city do that we must do by law, by contract,
- 13:44Speaker 2: by grant assurances? What are we union agreements? What are
- 13:49Speaker 2: we legally obligated to pay? And then anything left over
- 13:54Speaker 2: is all discretionary and you should figure that out so
- 13:58Speaker 2: that you know how much discretionary money you really have
- 14:01Speaker 2: versus what mandatory requirements are. So I'm going to go
- 14:05Speaker 2: back and make that suggestion again. And then the other
- 14:08Speaker 2: thing we're going to suggest or request is that when
- 14:12Speaker 2: at some point during the process, the members of council
- 14:15Speaker 2: come in with a list of organizations that they want
- 14:19Speaker 2: to give money to, and it can total over over
- 14:22Speaker 2: a million dollars for any particular member of council. I've
- 14:27Speaker 2: asked them to when they send these memos in to
- 14:30Speaker 2: the city manager, they need to sign an attestation that
- 14:35Speaker 2: they do not have any conflicts of interests to those organizations.
- 14:39Speaker 2: So we're going to go back and make that recommendation
- 14:42Speaker 2: as well, and if we need to, I think I
- 14:46Speaker 2: said this online or my podcast, we're going to organize
- 14:51Speaker 2: people to start sending in letters requesting that those city councils.
- 14:55Speaker 1: I was just going to ask you, if there's a
- 14:56Speaker 1: call to action, I would think calling up any of
- 14:59Speaker 1: the men as a council or all of them and
- 15:02Speaker 1: basically say quit funding these non government organizations and these
- 15:05Speaker 1: pet projects until you get your damn budget in line
- 15:07Speaker 1: and pave my street. But I love that, you know why,
- 15:11Speaker 1: because the minute someone tries to resist that, you got
- 15:13Speaker 1: to look at them and say, what are you trying
- 15:15Speaker 1: to hide? You don't want to disclose a direct financial
- 15:19Speaker 1: connection to the money that you're spending the taxpayer dollars on.
- 15:22Speaker 2: Now here's the thing.
- 15:23Speaker 1: Demand accountability.
- 15:25Speaker 2: If I think I said I think it must have
- 15:27Speaker 2: been online. But if they were to do that, if
- 15:30Speaker 2: they were to put that in, then Mayor would not
- 15:32Speaker 2: be able to sign that memo because two of the
- 15:35Speaker 2: people on his list are going to be people or
- 15:39Speaker 2: organizations where he sits on the board.
- 15:43Speaker 1: You see why we are lucky to have Todd Zenzer
- 15:45Speaker 1: citizen watchdog. I wish there were more reporters out there
- 15:51Speaker 1: looking into this like Todd Zenzer does in his spare
- 15:54Speaker 1: time and at no cost. I think you should put
- 15:57Speaker 1: a request in to be a non government organization. You
- 15:59Speaker 1: get money from the City of Cincinnati since you're doing
- 16:02Speaker 1: the laboring or the work that they should be doing
- 16:04Speaker 1: every day. Todd's Inzert. Let me thank you from the
- 16:06Speaker 1: bottom of my heart for the work that you're doing
- 16:07Speaker 1: and for coming to the studio and bringing this to
- 16:09Speaker 1: everyone's attention. And let's keep pounding away. And yes there's
- 16:13Speaker 1: a call to action. Demand accountability, Demand them to disclose
- 16:16Speaker 1: any financial interest they have in a single dollar that
- 16:19Speaker 1: goes out. Todd, keep up the great work, my friend.
- 16:22Speaker 1: All right, thank you very much. Folks, don't go away.
- 16:25Speaker 1: It's time to have a little bit of fun with
- 16:26Speaker 1: Jay Ratliff. We've got a lot of aviation topics to
- 16:28Speaker 1: talk about with Jay