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Full Show Podcast: 18 December 2024 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: The issue, the interviews, US listens and the Insight. Andrew
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Speaker 1: Dickens on the early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's
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Speaker 1: furniture beds and apply at store, US.
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Speaker 2: Talks it'd be welcome boy to you. Are we a
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Speaker 2: week away from Christmas Day? As it next Wednesday? We're
0:22
Speaker 2: a week away from Christmas Day, but we're still working
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Speaker 2: in this hour. Early childhood education has been reviewed and
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Speaker 2: it's complexities highlighted. So what's going to happen next in
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Speaker 2: the sector. We'll talk about that in about five minutes time.
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Speaker 2: The government makes it easier to hire migrants. Will this
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Speaker 2: revive the hospitality sector or will we have a whole
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Speaker 2: lot of low value, crappy little migrants coming in? More
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Speaker 2: on that in ten minutes. The incoming Archbishop of Canterbury
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Speaker 2: admits that the church's rules for safeguarding against sex abuse
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Speaker 2: are not fit for purpose. So Gavid Gray from the
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Speaker 2: UK after five point thirty and you have to do
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Speaker 2: it for the sake of balance, we let Labors Finance
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Speaker 2: spokesperson loose to have a crack on the numbers revealed yesterday.
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Speaker 2: We've got this in correspondence from right around New Zealand
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Speaker 2: and US as the brakes, and you can text for
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Speaker 2: a small charge to say whatever you want about the
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Speaker 2: program and the issues covered. The number is ninety two
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Speaker 2: ninety two it BZB. It is seven after five.
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Speaker 1: The agenda.
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Speaker 2: It's Wednesday, the eighteenth of December. So a Russian general
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Speaker 2: in charge of its nuclear, biological and chemical defense program
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Speaker 2: has been killed in an explosion in Moscow.
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Speaker 1: This is a signal that Ukrainian, the Ukraine leadership, the Ukrainian.
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Speaker 2: Secret services are sending two top Russians.
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Speaker 1: No one is saved. Those who do something against Ukraine
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Speaker 1: are in our crosscairs.
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Speaker 3: And of course this is a powerful message.
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Speaker 2: So the bloke who got blown up was yesterday charge
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Speaker 2: in Kiev for using banned chemical weapons during the war.
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Speaker 2: Ukraine has said, yep, they're behind them the attack. And
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Speaker 2: just so you know, the bomb was hidden in an
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Speaker 2: East scooter outside an apartment block. So as you wonder
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Speaker 2: around the streets looking at spare East scooters, realize that
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Speaker 2: they do have some use if you're in a war.
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Speaker 2: Search efforts are continuing in Vanua to following the seven
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Speaker 2: point three magnitude earthquake that struck yesterday afternoon. That's a
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Speaker 2: big quake. The Red Cross Sea's government officials are reporting
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Speaker 2: fourteen confirmed fatalities. Australia's Foreign Minister says immediate assistance will
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Speaker 2: be deployed today. We've got forty five YEW cylinders up there.
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Speaker 2: They're registered as being in Vanowa two. According to m
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Speaker 2: fat Now Donald Trump, mister Trump issuing Iowa polster and
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Speaker 2: Seltzer along with her polling firm and the Des Moines
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Speaker 2: Register for a poll and that came out before the
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Speaker 2: election that had Kamala Harris ahead of him. Just a
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Speaker 2: week out, the pole had Harris up by three percent
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Speaker 2: in Iowa, within the margin of era. However, reality Trump
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Speaker 2: went on to win the state by thirteen point three percent,
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Speaker 2: and Seltzer spoke about the pole just days ago.
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Speaker 4: If you're a whole that I had landed on exactly
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Speaker 4: why things went wrong, I have not. We've explored everything
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Speaker 4: that the Wine Register, in an unprecedented move for transparency,
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Speaker 4: has put online. Our cross tabs are waiting system and
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Speaker 4: my analysis.
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Speaker 2: Which was really wrong, really really really wrong. And finally,
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Speaker 2: Israeli's Defense minister says a ceasefire in the Gaza Strip
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Speaker 2: with Hamas is as close as it's ever been Benjamin Yette.
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Speaker 2: Now you I believe is there. US officials say Hamas
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Speaker 2: have agreed that Israeli forces can temporarily stay in Gaza
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Speaker 2: after the ceasefire, and they will provide a list of hostages,
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Speaker 2: US citizens and Palestinian prisoners to be released as all
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Speaker 2: part of the deal. It is ten out for five.
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Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines. Andrew dickens on early edition
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Speaker 1: with Slicity New Zealand's furniture bids and Appliant store youth talks.
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Speaker 2: It'd be so. The numbers were out yesterday and the
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Speaker 2: numbers are not good. A Morribon's economy means less revenue
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Speaker 2: for the government, and that means more borrowing. Just to
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Speaker 2: stand still, if not fall back the forecast of worse
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Speaker 2: than expected. The only quick answer for a government is
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Speaker 2: to adjust their fiscal policies. And Ryan asked that of
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Speaker 2: Nicola Willis last night on the Drive Show, and Nicola
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Speaker 2: Willis said, well, yeah, sure, she could cut spending more,
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Speaker 2: and she could raise taxes more to balance the books
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Speaker 2: and to start paying back the debt that is building
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Speaker 2: up right now. But she said her government has focused
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Speaker 2: on a medium term and that is not the sort
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Speaker 2: of pain that anyone really wants right now. Okay, the
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Speaker 2: austerity and reserve bank measures we've already been through have
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Speaker 2: been hard enough imagine even more. But that's the position
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Speaker 2: we're in right about now. I do wonder sometimes briefly,
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Speaker 2: where the national regrets doing the tax cuts, because that
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Speaker 2: means they've got less gas in the tank. Tax Cuts
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Speaker 2: are the sort of thing you can afford, but only
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Speaker 2: when things are good. When national inherited things they were
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Speaker 2: not good. We know that they've said that. We all
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Speaker 2: knew it. The tax cuts have actually contributed to making
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Speaker 2: it worse. Government has less revenue, and therefore it has
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Speaker 2: to borrow more. Therefore the debt goes up. Therefore we
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Speaker 2: have to pay more interests.
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Speaker 5: Now.
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Speaker 2: Look, don't get me wrong, I totally support tax cuts,
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Speaker 2: but the artistry of tax cuts is always in the timing.
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Speaker 2: I've also spent the last half year asking people what
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Speaker 2: have you done with your tax cuts? And most say,
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Speaker 2: we haven't noticed a tax cut. Do we get a
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Speaker 2: tax cut? I never saw it because it has been
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Speaker 2: accompanied by inflation. It's also been in companied by an
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Speaker 2: increase in government user pays. You know, they stopped subsidizing
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Speaker 2: public transport, So you know that's swallowed up the minimal gains.
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Speaker 2: Everyone got a little. When you add it all up,
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Speaker 2: it's a lot. The government is a lot down. But
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Speaker 2: the numbers are the numbers, and this is where we are.
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Speaker 2: This government does not have enough money to afford the services.
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Speaker 2: Have already spent a year reducing that's not a good look.
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Speaker 2: Talk backstory of the day. Despite this scrinchy government, the
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Speaker 2: minimum wage will go up again. Yesterday Minister Brook van
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Speaker 2: Velden announced it will increase from twenty three dollars fifteen
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Speaker 2: an hour to twenty three dollars fifty an hour. Did
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Speaker 2: you hear that, producer leo twenty three fifty wow. At
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Speaker 2: a time of course, when the defense forces and NB
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Speaker 2: staff are striking because they were offered by the government
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Speaker 2: as zero percent pay increase, the minimum wage goes up
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Speaker 2: twenty three fifteen to twenty three fifty. That's about one
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Speaker 2: point five percent. The whole thing is well interesting. The
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Speaker 2: CTU says it's effectively a pay cut. Opposition parties say
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Speaker 2: it won't stop the brain train. But you know, you
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Speaker 2: get twenty three to fifty an hour. You work a
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Speaker 2: forty hour week for fifty two weeks. That makes the
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Speaker 2: minimum pay wait for this, forty eight, eight hundred and
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Speaker 2: eighty dollars. So if you in less than that, you're
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Speaker 2: earning less the minimum pay, and you probably have a
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Speaker 2: grumble about it anyway. But to others that sounds like
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Speaker 2: quite a bit of money, because I know what my
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Speaker 2: sons get paid, and it's not much more than that,
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Speaker 2: and they've got degrees and skills. So how does that
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Speaker 2: make you feel? Ninety two ninety two There is a
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Speaker 2: small charge. The minimum wage is now twenty three fifty
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Speaker 2: forty and eighty dollars. Good or bad? Ninety two ninety two.
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Speaker 2: Now next, there's been a review into our early childhood
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Speaker 2: care and the regulations around it are ob twos. So
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Speaker 2: we'll talk about this and whether this review will make
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Speaker 2: a difference.
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Speaker 6: Next.
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Speaker 2: Here on news Sort Zibbie News and.
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Speaker 1: Views you trust has done. Your Day is early edition
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Speaker 1: with Andrew Dickens and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture Bids
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Speaker 1: and a flying store You've talked Zibby.
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Speaker 2: Yes, it is now sixteen minutes after five. The long
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Speaker 2: were waited regulatory review into our early childhood education sector
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Speaker 2: has now been released. This is just the regulatory review. Right,
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Speaker 2: it's about all the reg relations that cover the sector.
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Speaker 2: It found the Ministry for Education does not have a
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Speaker 2: compliance monitoring system and the Education Review Office doesn't have
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Speaker 2: enforcement powers when non compliance is identified. So it's made
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Speaker 2: fifteen recommendations which will be put together into a report
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Speaker 2: and then taken to Cabinet in the new year. Now
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Speaker 2: the review has been met all the way through with
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Speaker 2: criticism from both the sector and the opposition, concerns that
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Speaker 2: would impact the quality of education received by KIWI kids.
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Speaker 2: Kathy Wolf though is this is Kathy Wolf is the
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Speaker 2: Early Childhood New Zealand Chief Executive and joints. We now
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Speaker 2: thank you for waking up early.
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Speaker 6: Kathy Morten Andrew, no problem.
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Speaker 2: You've welcomed the review. What do you make of it?
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Speaker 6: Well, we really please that the Ministry of Regulation you
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Speaker 6: have listened to over the two thousand submissions that were made.
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Speaker 6: They did a great job in terms of engaging with
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Speaker 6: the sector. But as you just mentioned, it's now about
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Speaker 6: how the recommendations in the land because at the end
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Speaker 6: of the day, the priority is children's right to education
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Speaker 6: and making sure that the quality remains.
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Speaker 2: That's right, Well, there's fifteen recommendations. It's regulatory changes and
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Speaker 2: that range across licensing and workforce and compliance and regulation,
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Speaker 2: not curriculum as such, but you know, just those all
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Speaker 2: that sort of structures of putting together, say an early
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Speaker 2: childhood care center. The Minister reckons this will promote innovation,
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Speaker 2: quality and growth, but the critics reckon that this means
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Speaker 2: that shonky operators will be able to slip through. What
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Speaker 2: do you reckon?
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Speaker 6: Well, there is a danger of that. So for us,
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Speaker 6: it's about making sure that we work with the Minister
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Speaker 6: to make you know, to these recommendations that their land
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Speaker 6: in the right places and that are fit for purposes.
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Speaker 6: Is at the end of the day, we are focused
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Speaker 6: on quality education. So in all those areas that you
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Speaker 6: just mentioned, we need to make sure that it does
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Speaker 6: make it efficient for services to run and make good
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Speaker 6: use of public investments. So we also need to make
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Speaker 6: sure that every child is a education free access.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Now the report does say it will enable
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Speaker 2: more providers into what is a thrive market. You could
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Speaker 2: say it's a market short of centers. You know, their
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Speaker 2: appearance and there as kids and they want an EC
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Speaker 2: near them as soon as they can. Is that what
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Speaker 2: is needed, more providers in a thriving.
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Speaker 6: Market, providers on neededge. There's definitely areas and regions around
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Speaker 6: New Zealand that don't have access to each older education
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Speaker 6: and that needs to be rectified. But unfortunately that was
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Speaker 6: what the network planning was meant to do and that
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Speaker 6: was abolished, which is probably the one part of the
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Speaker 6: system that actually needed to stay, but it just needed some.
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Speaker 2: Tweaks to it all right, So you'll be watching closer
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Speaker 2: to see where what the government does with this. It
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Speaker 2: does seem like an awfully long process, doesn't it. Kathy Wolf,
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Speaker 2: the Early Childhood New Zealand TV executor, thank you so
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Speaker 2: much for your time. Here's the thing, the multi agency
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Speaker 2: confusion that we have in our system right now was highlighted.
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Speaker 2: Here's an example the height of door handles with incentive
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Speaker 2: based ECE services. As a per example, both fire and
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Speaker 2: Emergency New Zealand and MB have differing requirements then overseen
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Speaker 2: by the Ministry of Education who have their own differing requirement,
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Speaker 2: resulting in both confusion and costs. It means that door
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Speaker 2: handles move up and down depending on whose rules you
11:17
Speaker 2: listen to. Isn't that crazy? Five nineteen Andrew Dickens on
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Speaker 2: early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture bids and
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Speaker 2: applying store news talks. It be all right. There's been
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Speaker 2: changes to the accredited Employment visa. This is for people
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Speaker 2: who are coming into this country to do jobs that
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Speaker 2: we don't want to do or that we don't have
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Speaker 2: people to do. And the government has announced it's removing
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Speaker 2: the minimum experience requirement and the median wage threshold of
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Speaker 2: just under thirty dollars an hour for lower skilled migrants.
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Speaker 2: This has been welcomed by the hospitality sector. The big
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Speaker 2: change of note is removing the median wage requirement. Remember
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Speaker 2: when that came in and they said, we don't want
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Speaker 2: low quality migrants, do we. So let's make sure that
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Speaker 2: the jobs are going for aren't the lowest paid jobs,
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Speaker 2: so that we're not just importing, you know, hands that
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Speaker 2: can do it. You know, we want a higher quality
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Speaker 2: of migrant, said the government of the time. And that
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Speaker 2: meant they also put in what they put in the
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Speaker 2: medium wage, but they also put in minimum levels of experience.
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Speaker 2: Well that meant that we weren't getting what the hospitality
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Speaker 2: industry needed, which was like a fry cook who didn't
12:28
Speaker 2: necessarily have to have a qualification, might have had some experience,
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Speaker 2: it might not be paid thirty bucks an hour, So
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Speaker 2: that has gone. The Hospitality in New Zealand chief executive
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Speaker 2: has said they long advocated for the removal of the
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Speaker 2: median wage requirements. It was an arbitrary benchmark equating pay
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Speaker 2: rates with skills that are needed. But here's the thing.
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Speaker 2: You can't sit there one moment saying oh, look we're
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Speaker 2: in a whole lot of bad people and then actually
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Speaker 2: find out that what we really need in our workforce
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Speaker 2: is a whole lot of bad people, a whole lot
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Speaker 2: of people, and they're not bad people. They're people who
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Speaker 2: don't get paid as much as some people in government
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Speaker 2: hope that people should get paid. But there's also it's
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Speaker 2: like a Ponzi scheme, is it not, and that we
13:14
Speaker 2: are built on a base of very low paid people
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Speaker 2: and we have become dependent on them over years. You know,
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Speaker 2: go into your hospitals, go into your rest homes, go
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Speaker 2: and find all the people in age care who are
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Speaker 2: dealing with the older people and the nappies and all
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Speaker 2: that sort of thing, and see how much they're getting paid,
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Speaker 2: and see what sort of worked that doing and a
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Speaker 2: lot of New Zealanders just don't want to do that.
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Speaker 2: But we have managed to get through because we imported
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Speaker 2: people who were prepared to do that for money that
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Speaker 2: maybe you and I might not accept. That's what the
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Speaker 2: previous government was trying to stop. This government has brought
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Speaker 2: it back in again. We will probably welcome it because
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Speaker 2: this is the crack that we're addicted to. We need
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Speaker 2: these people to keep going. We built an economy on it.
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Speaker 2: It's five twenty four.
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Speaker 2: Newsoks Ivy and thank you Jeremy for who texta B
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Speaker 2: ninety two to ninety two and says this change will
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Speaker 2: soup businesses who can't pay high wages due to massive
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Speaker 2: commercial rents in many cases, and that's true. I was
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Speaker 2: talking to a restaurant a friend of mine the other day.
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Speaker 2: Her restaurant's about to close it. It's a big name
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Speaker 2: in Auckland, it's right on the edge. But she says
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Speaker 2: what's killing us is not just the people not coming
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Speaker 2: to eat, but also the rents. And she's been killed
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Speaker 2: in two different buildings with rents and landlords wanting a lot.
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Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of factors goes into the
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Speaker 2: cash flow of everything. Now, let's talk about cash. News
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Speaker 2: that Wilson Parking and Fort Street Auckland is the most
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Speaker 2: expensive parking in New Zealand says a lot more than
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Speaker 2: just about the company that is absolutely creaming it. And
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Speaker 2: you know it. If you turn up first thing at
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Speaker 2: this Wilson car park and you use the on site
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Speaker 2: machine and you want to park for a day, this
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Speaker 2: will cost you, wait for it, seventy four dollars a day. Now,
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Speaker 2: who pays seventy four bucks for a day's park? If
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Speaker 2: you go there and you park casually, it will cost
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Speaker 2: you twenty two dollars an hour. Now, hold on, what
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Speaker 2: was what was the minimum wage? What did I say?
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Speaker 2: The minimum wage was? Oh, it's just under the minimum wage,
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Speaker 2: but anyway, it's pretty close. So obviously minimum wage people
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Speaker 2: aren't going to be parking at this Wilson's car park.
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Speaker 2: I'm picking that if you park in this park, you
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Speaker 2: are not working in hospital, you're earning enough to blow
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Speaker 2: money like this. You don't feel like you have an alternative,
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Speaker 2: and you love your car and you want to park
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Speaker 2: near work, so you pay seventy four bucks let's break
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Speaker 2: that down average wage and all seventy two thousand a
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Speaker 2: year after tax, that's nine hundred dollars a week. The
15:34
Speaker 2: medium rent is seven hundred dollars a week. You need
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Speaker 2: one hundred dollars a week for power, phone, internet and
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Speaker 2: gas and oh, by the way, you need to eat.
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Speaker 2: So where's the spare money for that park? At seventy
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Speaker 2: four dollars for a day, the only people paying that
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Speaker 2: are paid way more than seventy two grand i having
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Speaker 2: no alternatives, well we don't have any. Fifty percent of
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Speaker 2: the workers in AUCONCBDD take public transport into work. That's
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Speaker 2: because they don't get a park from their employer, and
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Speaker 2: they don't eard enough to face the parking charges. After all,
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Speaker 2: seventy four dollars a day twenty two bucks an hour.
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Speaker 2: It's not their choice to take the public transport. Each
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Speaker 2: an economic necessity. That's why public transport is critical to
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Speaker 2: our productivity. Fifty percent of the workers in the CBD
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Speaker 2: need it. Remember that the next time you complain about
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Speaker 2: a bus lane. And finally, we love our cars because
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Speaker 2: actually there are plenty of cars. Sorry, there are plenty
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Speaker 2: of parks. They don't cost seventy four bucks an hour
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Speaker 2: in the CBD, like the city owned downtown car Park,
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Speaker 2: a car park which on most days is half empty,
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Speaker 2: which is why the council has now sold the car
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Speaker 2: park to developers to become a skyscraper because it's half empty.
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Speaker 2: Part there you may have to walk, so many don't,
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Speaker 2: and so they go and pay a fortune on waste
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Speaker 2: of productivity.
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Speaker 6: There.
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Speaker 2: Here's the thing. The fact that so many Orcants are
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Speaker 2: prepared to pay so much to park a car in
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Speaker 2: the CBD makes me believe that the idea of congestion
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Speaker 2: and charges reducing traffic will fail because we're prepared to
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Speaker 2: pay this rubbish. We're just going to pay to stay
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Speaker 2: stuck in the same traffic cues.
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Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens, all.
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Speaker 2: Right, still to come. I've got birthday news. Yes there's
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Speaker 2: a new baby. New baby. Only took a minute to deliver.
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Speaker 2: What Yeah, I'll tell you the story in just a
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Speaker 2: few moments time. And still to come Barbara Edmonds to
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Speaker 2: talk about the numbers. She's the labor spokesperson. I wonder
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Speaker 2: if she'll take any responsibility. That's still to come. Good
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Speaker 2: morning to you.
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Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth
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Speaker 1: analysis Early edition with Andrew Dickens and Smith City, New
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Speaker 1: Zealand's furniture bids and applying store news talks.
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Speaker 2: It'd be ain't let that can make this? Can I
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Speaker 2: son by myself?
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Speaker 5: You've help me myself?
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Speaker 1: Baby?
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Speaker 7: Every week?
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Speaker 4: Care if you can't.
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Speaker 8: Tell, they said, by.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to your Wednesday. I'm Andrew Dickens, and we are
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Speaker 2: one week away from Yeah, the big guy coming down
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Speaker 2: the chimney and all that sort of carry on and
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Speaker 2: your families all getting together and the commemoration of what
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Speaker 2: happened on this day on that day two thousand years ago.
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Speaker 2: So it's all so close. It's so close. I can
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Speaker 2: smell the plum pudding. Hey, I watched seven sharp last night.
18:25
Speaker 2: I don't normally watch seven sharp. It's sort of you know,
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Speaker 2: it's a bit one sever lightly for me, and I
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Speaker 2: sometimes wonder how many of the interviews have been bought?
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Speaker 2: Did I say that out loud? I did deny anyway,
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Speaker 2: But there was great TV last night on seven sharp.
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Speaker 2: One was Andrew Fagan, the popstar, the lead singer of
18:38
Speaker 2: the Mockers, and he was talking about his incredible little
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Speaker 2: boat Swirly World that he decided to sail around the
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Speaker 2: world because he's just crazy like that. And then off
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Speaker 2: the coast of Chile, he lost his rudder and then
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Speaker 2: he was saved by a container ship. And he's got
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Speaker 2: film of this. He videoed it all and it was dramatic.
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Speaker 2: And I know Andrew. I've known Andrew for a very
18:57
Speaker 2: long time, and he's a character. I worked with him
18:59
Speaker 2: for a while on another radio station. I saw him
19:02
Speaker 2: try to have a fight with Willie Jackson with fists. Anyway,
19:06
Speaker 2: I thought that was a great story. But the other
19:08
Speaker 2: great story was about Orkan Zoo's senior primate keeper, Christine Tittinger,
19:13
Speaker 2: who is retiring today. She's been at the zoo for
19:16
Speaker 2: forty four years. She began in nineteen seventy nine as
19:19
Speaker 2: a very excited twenty one year old. She's just turned
19:23
Speaker 2: sixty five. Her passion for animals was so obvious. She
19:26
Speaker 2: cried twice in this interview. She started working with the giraffes,
19:30
Speaker 2: but it was a primate she worked with, including one
19:33
Speaker 2: odding utang or Orangutang. Worked with that animal for over
19:37
Speaker 2: three decades. Yeah, got a feel for the monkeys who
19:39
Speaker 2: wake up and go where's Christine, where's Christine? Because you
19:42
Speaker 2: know that bonded over a very long time, made me
19:45
Speaker 2: want to go to the zoo. By the way. I meanwhile,
19:47
Speaker 2: here's the news. Here's the baby news that you wanted
19:49
Speaker 2: to know. There is a new baby Rhinoceris at the
19:52
Speaker 2: Orkan Zoo. Jamila was pregnant for nearly seventeen months, that
19:59
Speaker 2: is five hundred and fifteen long days. Heather. A few
20:05
Speaker 2: days ago she gave birth to a seventy kilo calf,
20:09
Speaker 2: seventy kilogram calf. The birth lasted three minutes. That's quick.
20:17
Speaker 2: That's seventy kg and three minutes. This is a new record.
20:20
Speaker 2: Her last baby took just under an hour. There is
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Speaker 2: a new baby rhino at the zoo. We must go.
20:24
Speaker 2: It's twenty one to six to Deneed and we go.
20:28
Speaker 2: Jbie Cunningham, Hello.
20:30
Speaker 7: Good morning.
20:31
Speaker 2: A group who blocked a coltrane has been in the court.
20:34
Speaker 5: What happened, Well, yeah, there's relief from some DNED and
20:37
Speaker 5: climate protesters after walking away with community service sentences three
20:42
Speaker 5: years after shutting down darneed and railway station. So these
20:45
Speaker 5: six activists who were arrested for blocking a coal train
20:49
Speaker 5: were convicted and sentenced yesterday to between forty and eighty
20:52
Speaker 5: hours of community service. Spokesperson Rosemary ping Warden says, be
20:57
Speaker 5: glad it's over and feel the judge listened to the argument.
21:00
Speaker 5: She says he understood they acted in good faith for
21:03
Speaker 5: the community, but felt the need to continue with the conviction.
21:06
Speaker 5: Ping Warden says they will keep going with the activism.
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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Jammie, how's the weather for the Riviera of
21:12
Speaker 2: the South.
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Speaker 5: Well, it's fine today with a bit of morning cloud
21:15
Speaker 5: in northeasterlies, but a high of eighteen.
21:18
Speaker 2: Very good, Thank you so much. Claire Silwood joins me
21:20
Speaker 2: from Canterbury. Hell is Alli, Claire, good morning. So I've
21:23
Speaker 2: just been talking about animals. Let's talk about aarun A
21:26
Speaker 2: wildlife park because the reviews have have all come out.
21:30
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's right, Andrew. These are the reviews that came
21:32
Speaker 9: about after some allegations this year in relation to animal
21:35
Speaker 9: deaths and an unsafe workplace. The two reviews won by
21:39
Speaker 9: the Zoo and Aquarium Association. The other one was in
21:41
Speaker 9: relation to workplace culture at Aarana Park. Both of them
21:45
Speaker 9: found the zoo lacked a clear and compelling core purpose
21:48
Speaker 9: and vision. Now the good news is there were no
21:51
Speaker 9: immediate animal welfare issues identified, but there is some work
21:54
Speaker 9: to be done around governance systems, processes and policies. BARD
21:59
Speaker 9: co chair Professor Ken Huey says will undertake various initiatives
22:03
Speaker 9: in order to restore its reputation and public goodwill. He
22:06
Speaker 9: says they'll develop a strategy and work with professionals in
22:09
Speaker 9: that space in order to grow visitor numbers again. The
22:12
Speaker 9: Christich City Council is also going to lead a governance
22:14
Speaker 9: review early next year.
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Speaker 2: Very good stuff and how's your weather?
22:18
Speaker 9: Mostly find today aside from some areas of cloud this
22:21
Speaker 9: morning and again by this evening northeasterlyes easing later. The
22:25
Speaker 9: high should be seventeen.
22:27
Speaker 2: Max Chell from Wellington, good morning to you, sir.
22:29
Speaker 8: Good morning.
22:30
Speaker 2: So the Mayor's got a business advisory group which is
22:32
Speaker 2: falling apart.
22:34
Speaker 8: Well essentially, yes, the biggest I would say, the biggest
22:36
Speaker 8: criticism of the mayor and her council's tenure has been
22:39
Speaker 8: that it doesn't listen, particularly when it comes to business
22:42
Speaker 8: owners who are losing their livelihoods and all their hearing
22:44
Speaker 8: is stick it out, You'll be okay, But when the
22:47
Speaker 8: end isn't insight to the road works, and there's no
22:50
Speaker 8: tangible supports. Anger and frustration grows in response to this.
22:55
Speaker 8: In May, Yes, the mayor Torrifinos set up an advisory
22:58
Speaker 8: group with a few high profile business he names attached
23:02
Speaker 8: some very legit like Willis Bonds, Mark McGinnis and some
23:05
Speaker 8: other young fresh faces. And what you've got now is
23:08
Speaker 8: two people quitting, a saying the group is what many suspected,
23:11
Speaker 8: a futile effort to provide arbitrary lip service to have
23:15
Speaker 8: a very real problem. McGinnis is among the two. He's quit,
23:19
Speaker 8: so has Courtney placed Barron and Justin McKenzie at the
23:22
Speaker 8: latter telling us that the survival of businesses is more
23:25
Speaker 8: important to him than sitting around a table having a
23:28
Speaker 8: cup of tea in a cheeseboard. Mackenzie, this is the
23:31
Speaker 8: brother of Flight of the Concord's Bread, says the council
23:34
Speaker 8: isn't listening.
23:36
Speaker 2: Well, okay, now how's your real her party?
23:39
Speaker 8: Cloudy sixteen the High Central, and.
23:42
Speaker 2: We welcome Wendy Pittri into the studio from Auckland. Just
23:46
Speaker 2: hello to talk about a story I just talked about.
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Speaker 7: I know, well you it sounds like you broke the story.
23:50
Speaker 2: Well, I came in and I asked them, I said,
23:52
Speaker 2: how do you pronounce this white rhino's name? Is it
23:54
Speaker 2: Jamila or Jemela? I mean, you know? And they went,
23:57
Speaker 2: what white rhino? I said, the one that's just given
23:59
Speaker 2: birth at Awkam's When they said what white rhino does
24:01
Speaker 2: this given birth at Orkan Zoo, And I says, two
24:03
Speaker 2: days ago, seventy kg baby.
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Speaker 7: You could become the zoo correspondent at this race with
24:08
Speaker 7: this exclusive.
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Speaker 2: So have you got any extra details? I don't know
24:11
Speaker 2: the name of the baby yet.
24:12
Speaker 7: The g as yet unnamed. I can tell you there
24:15
Speaker 7: was a seventeen month gestation, which I thought was quite
24:19
Speaker 7: a long time.
24:20
Speaker 8: Or a woman.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, big unit, a rhino, big.
24:24
Speaker 7: Unit, and the baby is seventy kilograms of it ouch.
24:28
Speaker 7: So the pair are living in the rhino barn. I
24:30
Speaker 7: heard you saying, I hope you can see it soon.
24:32
Speaker 7: I think they're talking about perhaps earlier in the new year.
24:35
Speaker 7: They might get the couple back out into the enclosure
24:38
Speaker 7: so zoo visitors can enjoy this. And of course it's
24:41
Speaker 7: a third rhino, as you mentioned, a valuable addition to
24:43
Speaker 7: the region.
24:44
Speaker 2: When was the last time you went to the zoo?
24:46
Speaker 7: Well, I was trying to think about that. I think
24:48
Speaker 7: maybe two or three years ago with my son's fourteen,
24:52
Speaker 7: so I think we're possible.
24:53
Speaker 2: The problem, isn't it the kids get older, then they
24:55
Speaker 2: don't want to go to the zoo. Sucks mum, you know,
24:58
Speaker 2: And they don't want to go to the zoo. And
24:59
Speaker 2: then you don't go to the zoo, and the next thing,
25:01
Speaker 2: you go to the zoo and you say, where's the
25:02
Speaker 2: hippos and they went, Oh, the hippos left ages ago.
25:04
Speaker 7: That's right. I hate to think. But when I grew up,
25:07
Speaker 7: I remember seeing the polar bears.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, which was pretty oh yea, yea, yeah yeah,
25:11
Speaker 2: the polar bear walking back and forth, the crazy polar
25:13
Speaker 2: bear absolutely, and the tea drinking chimpanzees. Yeah, I know,
25:16
Speaker 2: I know.
25:16
Speaker 7: Things have changed.
25:17
Speaker 2: How's Walker's weather?
25:18
Speaker 7: Well, on look, it's a fine day, another fine day.
25:21
Speaker 7: There is possibly a shower in the afternoon. We've got southerlys.
25:24
Speaker 7: Oh there are bit fresh this afternoon too, and a
25:26
Speaker 7: twenty three degree high.
25:27
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Wendy. It is a sixteen to six.
25:29
Speaker 2: We're off to Gavin Grand the UK, the Archbishop of Canterbury.
25:33
Speaker 2: The incoming one, the temporary one admits that all we
25:36
Speaker 2: don't really safeguard against sexual abuse. We'll talk about that
25:38
Speaker 2: at a moment. And already online and waiting to be
25:41
Speaker 2: talked to is Barbara Edmonds, who is the finance spokesperson
25:44
Speaker 2: for the Labor Party, to talk about the numbers yesterday. Actually, Barbara,
25:47
Speaker 2: you can if you're listening right now and you're sitting
25:50
Speaker 2: there on hold. Hugh just sent me a text and said,
25:52
Speaker 2: could you ask the Labor spokesperson if they feel any
25:54
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Speaker 2: Gavin Gray from the UK. Good morning to you, Gavin Gray.
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Speaker 2: Are you there? Gavin? You have a technical problem here? Okay,
27:34
Speaker 2: we will go to Barbara. It appears will do, which
27:37
Speaker 2: is good news. Barbara Emmons, who is labor As Finance spokesperson,
27:41
Speaker 2: joins us right now, hallo, Barbara.
27:43
Speaker 3: Good morning inter How are you.
27:44
Speaker 2: I'm very good at your phone. You use works, Unfortunately
27:47
Speaker 2: Gavin's does not. Okay, Well, look, we had some grim
27:50
Speaker 2: readings for the Treasury's half year Economic and Fiscal update.
27:53
Speaker 2: The books will stay in the red until at least
27:55
Speaker 2: twenty twenty nine, a year later than previously predicted, and
27:58
Speaker 2: Finance Minister Nichola Willis is blaming you, saying, in the
28:02
Speaker 2: past five years, labor added more than one hundred billion
28:04
Speaker 2: dollars to our debt. So you have the chance to
28:08
Speaker 2: rejoin to that. What do you reckon?
28:11
Speaker 3: Yes, I heard the question posed by one of your
28:14
Speaker 3: listeners earlier. So do you look at government financial statements
28:17
Speaker 3: going all the way back to say nineteen ninety nine,
28:21
Speaker 3: meaning obviously sorry to donate, where the change in government
28:25
Speaker 3: A debt had tracked from around twenty billion dollars had
28:28
Speaker 3: gone up over sixty billion dollars. That was to cover
28:31
Speaker 3: the GFC and to cover christ Church rebuilt. We clearly
28:35
Speaker 3: had a pandemic and that increased debt to just over
28:40
Speaker 3: our hundred billion dollars. What we saw is that as
28:43
Speaker 3: a percentage of debt GDP, that started to come down
28:47
Speaker 3: in the same way that most government starts to pay
28:49
Speaker 3: down that debt as certain as that sort of crisis
28:52
Speaker 3: is over, what has happened so far is that Nichol
28:55
Speaker 3: Willis is borrowing more, has more debts, a larger deficit.
29:00
Speaker 3: And that's because we're not sure why she's boring more.
29:03
Speaker 3: Except for obviously tax cuts, which really said are unaffordable.
29:07
Speaker 3: She chose bringing back interested auctibility for landworks and then
29:11
Speaker 3: tobacco company obviously with their tax break. So for me,
29:15
Speaker 3: it is her reputation that intestinesn't pay out.
29:19
Speaker 2: Well, my text is that you heard me read the
29:21
Speaker 2: text out from you. He actually did a two parts
29:23
Speaker 2: and one whether you felt any embarrassment for the position
29:25
Speaker 2: you put in New Zealand in while you were in
29:27
Speaker 2: charge of the benches. He also went on to say,
29:30
Speaker 2: while you can argue the Coalition hasn't got their recovery right,
29:33
Speaker 2: if the Labor Party of the labor governments hadn't been
29:36
Speaker 2: so profligate with the money during the pandemic and over
29:39
Speaker 2: that period of time, we wouldn't need the recovery in
29:41
Speaker 2: the first place. So do you take any part responsibility
29:44
Speaker 2: for the situation this country finds itself in today?
29:48
Speaker 3: So I take responsibility for the funding that we gave
29:51
Speaker 3: out as part of COVID to help people with the
29:53
Speaker 3: Wave Subsody, to help businesses with the Wave Subjedy, so
29:56
Speaker 3: that employees employees could stay connected. The COVID Residents Support
30:00
Speaker 3: scheme is obviously people needed them money as they were
30:03
Speaker 3: losing jobs because of COVID and also because of the
30:05
Speaker 3: Small Business Cash Alan scheme. The issue was this of
30:09
Speaker 3: their borrowing more and it was the tax cuts which
30:11
Speaker 3: were unaffordable. The plan that they came up with the
30:14
Speaker 3: budget this year, those figures have been revised and they're
30:18
Speaker 3: worse than what they were. So we're not seeing any
30:21
Speaker 3: plan countries from this government and the plan is clearly
30:25
Speaker 3: not working.
30:26
Speaker 2: Okay, isn't it just rich as well?
30:27
Speaker 3: Though?
30:28
Speaker 2: You know, you blame or you say that they can't
30:30
Speaker 2: blame you, but you when you're talking about what you did,
30:34
Speaker 2: always blame COVID. But there was an awful lot of
30:37
Speaker 2: other funding and spending decisions that were made that were
30:40
Speaker 2: not because of the pandemic but because of your ideological stance,
30:43
Speaker 2: whether it was you know, increasing the minimum wage or
30:45
Speaker 2: worrying about the conditions of workers and et cetera. You know,
30:49
Speaker 2: there was a lot of that spending that was also
30:51
Speaker 2: could be considered considering the books and considering the economic
30:54
Speaker 2: situation to be profligate that you did for ideological reasons.
30:59
Speaker 3: So those two examples that you've used are examples of
31:03
Speaker 3: where the cost is on the employer in order to
31:06
Speaker 3: pay a bit more though that they had the minimum wage.
31:09
Speaker 3: So again, when you look at the debt trajectory for
31:13
Speaker 3: New Zealand since the mid two thousand, there have been
31:16
Speaker 3: three major crisis which governments have borrowed for. So we
31:21
Speaker 3: again going back to the deficit. Nickel wative deficit is
31:25
Speaker 3: worse than what Brent Robinson in Iran except at the
31:29
Speaker 3: height of cope. I apologize you'd carry on the current.
31:33
Speaker 2: You don't apologize for them.
31:35
Speaker 3: I don't apologize for the wedge subsidies that was absolutely
31:38
Speaker 3: needed at the time.
31:39
Speaker 2: Okay, So had you stayed on in power, would the
31:44
Speaker 2: financial situation of this country be better now than it is?
31:48
Speaker 2: In your opinion?
31:50
Speaker 3: Well, based on the economic fiscal forecast that we left
31:53
Speaker 3: when we were in government, for the books, both in budget,
31:57
Speaker 3: both in prefood so in twenty three they were stronger
32:01
Speaker 3: than the numbers that were given here and part of
32:03
Speaker 3: the reason why he's stronger is you look at the numbers.
32:06
Speaker 3: You look at the spending that happened, that was happening
32:08
Speaker 3: in an infrastructure, which for school builds, housing builds, hospital builds,
32:12
Speaker 3: for example. That's all money that gets recycled back into
32:16
Speaker 3: the economy through jobs. So the construction sector you've seen
32:19
Speaker 3: since the gunment has come and there are twelve thousand
32:21
Speaker 3: fewer construction roles. All right, but sort of stimulus is needed, Barbara,
32:26
Speaker 3: we got to go.
32:27
Speaker 2: But guess what because we had a failure of a
32:29
Speaker 2: phone unit with our UK correspondent. You've got a good
32:31
Speaker 2: old crack to get to go back at what happened
32:33
Speaker 2: over the course of yesterday. And I thank you for
32:34
Speaker 2: your timing for waking up.
32:36
Speaker 3: Thank you so much.
32:37
Speaker 6: Jjents.
32:39
Speaker 2: What do you reckon? It is now six? Minister six.
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Speaker 2: Yes, the old texts are going off. The morning Android
32:56
Speaker 2: called bs from Barbara Emans commentary and her lack of
32:58
Speaker 2: accountability for the part that they government played with respect
33:01
Speaker 2: to the current financial fiasco. That's exactly right. What I
33:03
Speaker 2: just asked her was you're part of the problem, aren't it.
33:06
Speaker 2: You can't complain about their solution when you were actually
33:08
Speaker 2: part of the problem.
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Speaker 7: So glad you're talking about this, Because I read Labour's
33:11
Speaker 7: press release on this, I was going to mention it
33:12
Speaker 7: on the show on a May. Still, it's like they
33:14
Speaker 7: live in an alternative universe. Like her reputation, Nichola Willison's reputation.
33:19
Speaker 2: Shot tatus isn't tatus.
33:20
Speaker 7: She has ruined the economy with absolutely no awareness of
33:24
Speaker 7: the fact that we're in this position because of them.
33:26
Speaker 2: Judy says, how many extra public service employees did labor
33:29
Speaker 2: employ Why there we go? Because I was asked, I
33:31
Speaker 2: was saying, you did a whole She was playing it
33:33
Speaker 2: all on COVID and the pandemic, and all I said,
33:35
Speaker 2: you did an awful lot of ideological stuff that meant
33:37
Speaker 2: an awful lot of government spending. So you're responsible. John says,
33:41
Speaker 2: good grief. What's up with these labor people complaining about
33:43
Speaker 2: national boring? And yet Chrishipkins came out and said, as
33:46
Speaker 2: soon as it gets in power, he's going to borrow
33:48
Speaker 2: even more. These guys cannot see their own hypocrasy.
33:52
Speaker 7: Do you know what the problem is? Too many of us,
33:54
Speaker 7: like we're still alive.
33:55
Speaker 2: Hey, we were there during COVID.
33:57
Speaker 7: We haven't forgotten what happened.
33:58
Speaker 2: Barb's yeah, yeah.
34:00
Speaker 7: Anyway, we're going to talk to the cler wiless about
34:01
Speaker 7: it after.
34:02
Speaker 2: And I wanted to talk to you about hippos, but
34:04
Speaker 2: that's another thing. Maybe I'll say that for tomorrow.
34:06
Speaker 7: Let's talk about hippos tomorrow.
34:08
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