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DIDDY STRIKES BACK: STATE BRACES FOR DEFENSE CLOSING ARGUMENT · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: Diddy strikes back and the state braces for the defense
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Speaker 2: closing arguments. Good evening, I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories.
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Speaker 2: I want to thank you for being with us at
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Speaker 2: the courthouse Vegas. Odds even Shawn Comes will spend no
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Speaker 2: time behind bars, and Shawn Comes will spend life behind bars.
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Speaker 2: It's all down to twelve jurrrs. We are headed into
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Speaker 2: a verdict. Watch here at Crime Stories. Now straight to
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Speaker 2: Crime Stories. Investigative reporter Sidney Sumner, Sydney. The state is
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Speaker 2: braced closing arguments going throughout the day. The state went
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Speaker 2: five hours in closing arguments and they were withering the jury,
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Speaker 2: making notes furiously and leaning forward in their seats. That's
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Speaker 2: always a good sign. But you can't call this in
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Speaker 2: the fifth inning. No, there's a long way to go, Sydney,
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Speaker 2: Summer Today. Defense closing arguments start at the beginning with
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Speaker 2: Seawan Kinmes walking into the courtroom.
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Speaker 1: ALTONA must stay. What happened?
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Speaker 3: Well, Nancy, we have heard reports, but did he has
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Speaker 3: been greeting his lawyers with a yoga studio esque bow.
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Speaker 3: Class's hands together gives them a little nod of respect
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Speaker 3: as he greets them in the morning. Today is all
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Speaker 3: about decent.
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Speaker 4: Just stop right there? What what woll whoa whoa woe?
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Speaker 4: What a yoga zen thing? What are you talking about?
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Speaker 3: Well, Nancy, I don't know if you've ever been to
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Speaker 3: a yoga class. I used to attend pretty often. But
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Speaker 3: you just at the end of class, at the beginning
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Speaker 3: of class, you put your hands together and you do
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Speaker 3: a short little bow to everyone else in the classroom
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Speaker 3: to show your respect for everyone. And that's exactly what
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Speaker 3: Colms has been doing to all eight of his lawyers
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Speaker 3: in the courtroom every morning when he comes to see them.
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Speaker 2: Sidney, you cannot live in New York City, in Manhattan
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Speaker 2: and not be subjected to a yoga class, particularly a
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Speaker 2: hot yoga class the worst.
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Speaker 1: But what you're saying is like a zen. Nama stay
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Speaker 1: oh okay, you know what?
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Speaker 2: Straight out to Lynnshaw joining me, executive director, founder of
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Speaker 2: Lynn's Lawyers, dedicated to ending s exploitation, trafficking of women
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Speaker 2: and girls. You know, Nama, stay my rear end he
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Speaker 2: can nom stay his way all the way to the MDC.
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Speaker 2: He was an all Noma stay in the middle of
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Speaker 2: all these free coughs. You know how big of a
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Speaker 2: stack they had to do, an eight hundred number for
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Speaker 2: all the women calling in claiming that they were victims.
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Speaker 1: Of Sean Comb's freak.
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Speaker 2: Offs, King Knights, Hotel Knights, whatever, whatever ephemism he wants
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Speaker 2: to use, these women claiming they were drugged in their drinks,
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Speaker 2: that they woke up covered in baby oil with their
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Speaker 2: vagina's herding, and he's allnomous day my rear end.
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Speaker 5: What a slap in the face to all victims of
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Speaker 5: any kind of sexual exploitation abuse. I mean, this is horrific.
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Speaker 5: And you know what, I'm putting my money on the
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Speaker 5: jury that everybody can see right through this, this act
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Speaker 5: of contrition, because this is horrific that he's allowed to
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Speaker 5: walk into court an Easy's being all cute and calm,
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Speaker 5: and you know what, yesterday I was saying, I don't
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Speaker 5: want to call him the nicknames. I've called him dirty
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Speaker 5: Diddy and things like that, But today I want to
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Speaker 5: go back to that because I am sick and tired
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Speaker 5: of this. Who is protecting, who is talking to, who
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Speaker 5: is giving advice counsel to these hundreds as far as
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Speaker 5: we know right, you know, victims of his probably thousands
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Speaker 5: over the years. So I'm just hoping that this playbook
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Speaker 5: of his, this dirty diddy playbook. Everybody's onto him, everybody's
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Speaker 5: sick of him. And you know what, we have to
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Speaker 5: turn that focus and hope and hope and hope that victims, survivors.
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Speaker 5: Anybody watching this this he's turning it into a laugh
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Speaker 5: you know, a laugh stockfest here, you know, some kind
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Speaker 5: of festival.
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Speaker 6: This is a court of law.
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Speaker 5: He's supposed to be up for his life right and
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Speaker 5: the family and him and the lawyer singing. It's too much, Nancy,
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Speaker 5: It's just too much.
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Speaker 4: I know.
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Speaker 1: Did you hear that yesterday?
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Speaker 2: Doctor Bethany Marshall, you were with us last night when
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Speaker 2: we learned that Agnifolo, the defense attorney went on the
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Speaker 2: mic and started singing.
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Speaker 1: Her name was Lula.
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Speaker 2: He started singing copa cabana and a sex trafficking trial.
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Speaker 2: And it just threw me over the edge because I
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Speaker 2: have dealt with rape victims. You know, look around, look around.
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Speaker 2: I'm looking around the studio. At least one in four
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Speaker 2: women had been sex assault victims. Think about that. Think
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Speaker 2: about it. People you'd never suspect have been sex assault
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Speaker 2: victims and he's singing copa into the microphone, and now
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Speaker 2: Seawan comes comes in and does.
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Speaker 1: A nama stay.
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Speaker 2: Really, he can chill out behind bars for the rest
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Speaker 2: of his life for all I care.
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Speaker 1: What's the dichotomy? What is this?
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Speaker 5: Well, it's one more male and females do it to
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Speaker 5: minimizing the severity of sex trafficking. Nancy, I don't think
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Speaker 5: our nation or world really understands what sex trafficking is.
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Speaker 5: This whole question that maybe the women consented that means
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Speaker 5: they were in a relationship and not that they were coerced,
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Speaker 5: is so false when you think of the whole psychology
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Speaker 5: of sex trafficking.
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Speaker 2: I just got to tell you he's got a nerve
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Speaker 2: coming into the courtroom at all. Namasteak no stay my
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Speaker 2: rear end okay? Joining us now outside the courthouse, Tisa
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Speaker 2: tells Tisa tailstar off teas Tales on YouTube.
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Speaker 7: Tisa, what happened in court? Start at the beginning today,
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Speaker 7: Mark agnifil. It was like a roller coaster. He started
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Speaker 7: all strong. I was actually very impressed. Very quickly, he
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Speaker 7: took me down the path of disgust.
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Speaker 8: Mark Pagnaffilial started off making a beautiful argument, and then
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Speaker 8: it turned into weird blaming things that Cassie she was
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Speaker 8: no angel. He even accused Cassie of saying she was
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Speaker 8: raped because she was dating her husband or is Mark
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Speaker 8: liked to put it the oldest trick in the book.
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Speaker 6: I think he lost some of the jury.
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Speaker 8: It was very disgusting, very very nineteen sixties coded misogyny.
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Speaker 6: I don't know what happened, but it was weird.
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Speaker 8: The biggest shocker is when Mark Agnofili was making his
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Speaker 8: a defense and.
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Speaker 6: I'm not gonna lie. He was doing very well.
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Speaker 8: The judge letters hot for break and all of a sudden,
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Speaker 8: Marine called me shot up and I knew she met
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Speaker 8: business because she did the call me lean. Every time
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Speaker 8: you see her lean slightly to the left, you know
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Speaker 8: this woman needs business. She bought up three objections and
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Speaker 8: said I was trying to be nice because he was
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Speaker 8: in the middle of giving his closing. But there are
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Speaker 8: three ways where he was grossly improper and across the line.
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Speaker 8: One implying that the jury needs to judge why we
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Speaker 8: bought charges, telling them.
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Speaker 6: What the law is telling them. The assault is only
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Speaker 6: a misdemeanor.
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Speaker 8: This is improper, and what's more, we are demanding a
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Speaker 8: curative instruction right now. It was like a bomb went off.
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Speaker 8: The jury was out the room. Of course, she gave
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Speaker 8: him the respect of that. All the parties were arguing
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Speaker 8: back and forth as to whether there should be some
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Speaker 8: type of curative instruction. In the end, Shapiro was literally
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Speaker 8: going to war with the judge, saying, well, you don't understand.
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Speaker 8: They did this and they did that, and we didn't
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Speaker 8: say anything. And the judge was like, okay, well that's you.
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Speaker 8: You should have And they're like, you know, you're bringing
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Speaker 8: this up. And the judge said, I'm not bringing anything up.
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Speaker 8: The prosecution objected, and I'm now addressing that objection. The
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Speaker 8: final point of the motive is the story, and the
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Speaker 8: moral of the story is he lost complete control of
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Speaker 8: the jury after that, because when we came back from break,
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Speaker 8: the judge gave a curative instruction, telling them that don't
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Speaker 8: listen to market agnofilial about what he told you about
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Speaker 8: the government's motives. That's not your job, and moving forward,
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Speaker 8: when it comes to anything in the law, you don't
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Speaker 8: listen to the lawyers, you listen to me again. It
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Speaker 8: had a very chilling effect on the jury. Some of
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Speaker 8: the jury looked not puzzled. But you can tell after
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Speaker 8: that when Mark came back to do his closing, he
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Speaker 8: had lost a little bit of his mojo, and that's
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Speaker 8: when he got into disgusting.
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Speaker 6: Cassie wanted it. She was in a victim land tasted tails.
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Speaker 2: Explained to me the dynamic in the courtroom during the
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Speaker 2: defense closing arguments.
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Speaker 6: This is a funny thing. In the beginning, he was funny,
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Speaker 6: he was charming.
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Speaker 8: He has an old Harley Golly hometown lawyer in a
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Speaker 8: big city act down pack. But he went too far
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Speaker 8: with the misogyny. When they were making the jokes in
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Speaker 8: the beginning, they were giggling along, they were nodding along.
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Speaker 8: They if one of them even met him with a
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Speaker 8: smile because he was making eye contact. But again when
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Speaker 8: he started going down on massogyny lane and actually saying that.
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Speaker 8: One of the biggest shocking things where I think he
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Speaker 8: lost a lot of the jury is when he literally,
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Speaker 8: against all odds, rerounded the Intercontinental tape and then tried
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Speaker 8: to convince us. He literally started off by saying like,
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Speaker 8: it's unclear what happened in the tape.
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Speaker 6: Could have been Cassie's, could have been Shawn's. Maybe it
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Speaker 6: was sean, I don't know, we need to look into this.
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Speaker 8: And then they walked us to the tape, framed by
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Speaker 8: frame and tried to show us how Cassie wasn't the victim,
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Speaker 8: and they even tried to paint a picture that she
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Speaker 8: was the aggressor and that no violence really happened to
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Speaker 8: quote what he said, that was just something they do,
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Speaker 8: and the way they were in the relationship. It was
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Speaker 8: shocking to see. And at that point some jurors were
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Speaker 8: sitting there. They were looking at him like he was crazy.
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Speaker 8: One person had a look of disbelief. Everybody it stopped
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Speaker 8: taking notes and they were just looking at him. And
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Speaker 8: I think at that moment he realized he went a
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Speaker 8: step too far. He tried to reel it in, but again.
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Speaker 6: He was off. He kind of lost some of the timing.
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Speaker 6: So it was a lot.
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Speaker 1: Tastes of tales.
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Speaker 2: We saw the female victims dragged through the mud and
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Speaker 2: the defense closing statement stating it's quote all about the money.
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Speaker 2: But when Cassie Vanteria took the stand, the money issue
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Speaker 2: was long over. Her civil case was settled before she
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Speaker 2: took the stand, So what was her motivation to testify?
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Speaker 2: How was the jury reacting when Agnifolo referred to this
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Speaker 2: as being all about the money.
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Speaker 8: Okay, where he started off on his road to to
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Speaker 8: peavity is by saying when he talked first, he started.
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Speaker 6: Off talking about Diddy and how he's self made and
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Speaker 6: blah blah blah blah blah.
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Speaker 8: And by the way, there's not many that many black
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Speaker 8: billionaires to me.
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Speaker 6: Okay, Mark, what we just let it slide, Okay.
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Speaker 8: The issue was when he literally started talking about Cassie's
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Speaker 8: and saying, Kathie's a millionaire, Cassie's fine, Caffie's not a victim,
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Speaker 8: almost applying that because she had to fight him too
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Speaker 8: for now, for that money, that we should let this
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Speaker 8: all go away. He even went so far as to say,
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Speaker 8: and Jane, I don't know where she is right now,
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Speaker 8: and I'm sure she wants to be a good mother
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Speaker 8: to her son, but we know that he's sitting there
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Speaker 8: and she's sitting there probably watching this from the house
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Speaker 8: that Sean COLEMs is paying for.
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Speaker 6: They kept putting it back the money.
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Speaker 8: Cassie's not a real victim because she has thirty million dollars.
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Speaker 6: Cassie's not a victim.
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Speaker 8: And then he started painting Cassie into this almost like
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Speaker 8: weird seductress Lolita. It was weird and it was disgusting
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Speaker 8: when he was like, Cassi knew what she was doing,
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Speaker 8: she lord Sean out to Miami and then May loved
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Speaker 8: to him. We are talking about a woman that was like,
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Speaker 8: at the very most, very early twenties and a man
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Speaker 8: that was twenty twenty five years her senior, might have
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Speaker 8: even been double her age. Well, on top of that,
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Speaker 8: he went into how Cassie was playing Cuddy anteon. They
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Speaker 8: kept trying to paint her as this lolita vixen, that
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Speaker 8: all the men's by the nose. And this is when
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Speaker 8: they were even talking about the brutality that happened in
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Speaker 8: the Intercontinental and the hotel room. Again, I think he
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Speaker 8: went too far. I think he lost a lot of people.
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Speaker 8: And it was really disgusting to see Pisa Tails, who
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Speaker 8: was in the courtroom for closing arguments for the defense.
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Speaker 8: His whole family was there. Everybody was there, everybody was eager.
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Speaker 8: The girls yesterday they seem to be tearful today they
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Speaker 8: are trying to hold it together.
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Speaker 6: He is in court with.
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Speaker 8: Everybody there, and they seem to have the rally call
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Speaker 8: with Mark Agnafilial. The only thing is with Mark Agnifilio,
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Speaker 8: I don't think he made the groundways he thought. It's
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Speaker 8: like every time he got a win, he went too
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Speaker 8: far and it would come back. But again, his family
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Speaker 8: was there, they were looking hopeful, tease of tails.
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Speaker 1: What happens now?
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Speaker 8: You know, I usually have so many fun things to
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Speaker 8: say about what's going on the trial. What happens now
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Speaker 8: is we really have to think is this a fight
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Speaker 8: for America's soul? At what point do we look at abuse?
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Speaker 8: What do we think is trafficking? And at what point
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Speaker 8: in twenty twenty five can we not have a defense
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Speaker 8: lawyer sit up there and basically say she wanted it
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Speaker 8: and who cares if she suffered?
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Speaker 6: She got thirty million dollars.
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Speaker 8: The displays and the misogynist narratives that Mark Agnifilial.
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Speaker 6: Was spouting around, because I get it.
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Speaker 8: You will do anything, You will make a pack with
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Speaker 8: the devil right now to get your client off. But
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Speaker 8: I really think he upped the ante and a lot
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Speaker 8: of people are looking at the jury to actually see
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Speaker 8: where are your lines?
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Speaker 6: What do you have to believe? What do you believe?
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Speaker 6: And I think it's going to be very very interesting
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Speaker 6: to see how it plays out. That said, when you look.
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Speaker 8: At the prosecution rebuttal, they definitely have Diddy dead to rights.
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Speaker 8: But it is going to be interesting on how much
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Speaker 8: this whole Cassie wasn't a victim thing actually can play
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Speaker 8: forward and get him out of the sex trafficking charges.
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Speaker 1: Sammy Sumner.
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Speaker 2: After all the Anoma stay went down in the courtroom,
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Speaker 2: what happened.
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Speaker 3: Well, Mark Agnippolo came up to the stand to start
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Speaker 3: giving his closing arguments, and I'm curious to see how
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Speaker 3: short they're going to be. Are they going to be
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Speaker 3: just like the case in chief, only a few minutes,
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Speaker 3: wrapping this up nice and quickly for the defense. But
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Speaker 3: his very first words was, you've heard two different trials.
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Speaker 3: You've heard the evidence trial and you've heard the prosecutor's trial.
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Speaker 3: The words coming out of their mouths and those these
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Speaker 3: words are extremely exaggerated. This is just a swinger's lifestyle.
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Speaker 3: That's what the evidence told you. But prosecutors are telling
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Speaker 3: you this was a crime.
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Speaker 2: Okay, here we go the minimization of what happened. That
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Speaker 2: the women are hysterical? Why is so always women are
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Speaker 2: hysterical and they're exaggerating. And the female prosecutor that gave
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Speaker 2: the closing arguments, which were brilliant, by the way, Christie
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Speaker 2: Slavic exaggeration. You know, Eric Fattus, there are women on
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Speaker 2: that jury, right. Eric Fattus, veteral trial lawyer joining us
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Speaker 2: out of Colorado.
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Speaker 1: He is the founding partner of Varner.
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Speaker 2: Fattest, elite legal and former felony prosecutor. That would be
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Speaker 2: the last thing that I wanted to do if I
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Speaker 2: were Lord help me. A defense attorney is claimed that
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Speaker 2: all the women are hysterical and exaggerating. You know, there's
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Speaker 2: some women sitting on that jury going, I what.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, Nancy, there are sensitive issues in this case, clearly,
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Speaker 9: and as a defense attorney, you've got to make sure
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Speaker 9: you're not offending the sensibilities of the jurors. You can
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Speaker 9: be passionate, you can be a zealous advocate, but you've
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Speaker 9: got to be careful about, you know, playing into some
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Speaker 9: trope that women who have been victimized and who are
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Speaker 9: survivors were just you know, making it up or making
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Speaker 9: a big deal out of nothing, or something like that.
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Speaker 9: And so I think he's got to really be careful
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Speaker 9: because he runs the risk of rubbing them the wrong way,
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Speaker 9: and then you know that impression is left with them
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Speaker 9: back in the deliberation room.
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Speaker 2: Straight back guy to Sidney Sumner, Crime Stories investigative reporter.
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Speaker 2: I understand that Sean Comes had his son, Christian Comes
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Speaker 2: along with what his god uncle Kanye very busy last night.
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Speaker 1: Yes, they have.
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Speaker 3: Released an EP today and one of the songs on
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Speaker 3: that EP is called Biddy Free, and the lyrics say
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Speaker 3: that we aren't going to sleep until we see Diddy Free.
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Speaker 3: And the lyrics actually mention you, Nancy. They don't understand,
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Speaker 3: but they stand me. Tell him gives me grace, even Nancy.
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Speaker 3: So this isn't the first song that he's released speaking
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Speaker 3: about his dad's legal troubles. And honestly, I don't think
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Speaker 3: they're doing any positive things for him. This Bible might
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Speaker 3: come in handy, this rifle might come in handy. I
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Speaker 3: don't think threatening gun violence is really doing much to
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Speaker 3: persuade anyone that your dad is innocent of these crimes.
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Speaker 2: Okay, you know that your ours get to go home
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Speaker 2: every night, they are not sequestered, and they can be
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Speaker 2: exposed to this rap song created by God help him
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Speaker 2: Christian Combs and Kanye. Why you would want your child
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Speaker 2: around Kanye? I do not know, but that's a whole
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Speaker 2: other cans. Let's take a look at the lyrics. Ain't
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Speaker 2: going to sleep till we see Diddy free, Ain't gonna
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Speaker 2: sleep till we see Diddy free. When it gets suss,
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Speaker 2: they try to play the victim, playing the victim. That's
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Speaker 2: an attack on the victims outspoken. I ain't keeping in
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Speaker 2: uh blah blah blah blah. Now you know, I noticed
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Speaker 2: part of it refers to a Plan B, which is
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Speaker 2: an abortion drug which came up during this trial. It
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Speaker 2: says they ain't got to lose. What are they talking about?
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Speaker 2: The victims or the jurors? I ain't one of them.
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Speaker 2: And then it goes on to talk about astro what
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Speaker 2: astro glide? And it says, like, damn, why am I
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Speaker 2: in the tabloids?
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Speaker 1: You know what, that's a really good question.
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Speaker 2: Why comes as children have been dragged in to this?
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Speaker 1: They are being.
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Speaker 2: Used as a pr tool And now you want to
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Speaker 2: tell me this happened without Sean Combs knowing that it
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Speaker 2: would drop just before the defense closing arguments. Further, looking
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Speaker 2: at the lyrics that dropped last night, the Bible might
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Speaker 2: come in handy, like what it's a prop The rifle
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Speaker 2: might come in handy. I don't know if my dad
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Speaker 2: was charged with brandishing weapons, if that came out in
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Speaker 2: evidence that I'm referring to the Sugar Knight attack attempt
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Speaker 2: that the minions described on the stand. I don't know
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Speaker 2: if I would be talking about a rifle. Then of
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Speaker 2: course Christ gets dragged in. It's one night. I want
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Speaker 2: Jesus Christ to answer. Then they want to stop me
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Speaker 2: the kid. They want to stop the kid like a plan.
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Speaker 2: B Okay, we heard the testimony, and we know about
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Speaker 2: whether the jury understands it fully that one woman was
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Speaker 2: forced into an abortion.
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Speaker 1: They don't understand me.
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Speaker 2: Tell them give me grace even Nancy, and it refers
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Speaker 2: to bad Boy throughout.
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Speaker 1: That would be bad Boy records. Okay, let's hear it.
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Speaker 1: They don't understand what they stand me. Tell them give
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Speaker 1: me grace even. Okay. You know some people ask, are
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Speaker 1: you angry? No, I'm not. I'm full of.
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Speaker 2: Remorse for what Seawan Colmes is doing to his children.
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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: I'm Eric fattis joining me veteran try a lawyer. Have
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Speaker 2: you ever prosperedd a case where the children, unless they
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Speaker 2: were the victims, thought their parents did it, because I
21:10
Speaker 2: don't think I've ever had a case where the children
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Speaker 2: thought their dad was guilty. Even adult children, they never
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Speaker 2: believe the parent did it.
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Speaker 9: And I can't think of one really. The family often
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Speaker 9: rallies around the defendant in these cases, you know, provides support.
21:29
Speaker 9: They want to believe, They want to believe their family
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Speaker 9: member is not guilty of these heinous allegations, and that's understandable.
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Speaker 9: But oftentimes, like you mentioned, the family can be brought
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Speaker 9: in sort of as ponds, sometimes in the trial itself,
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Speaker 9: sometimes outside the trial, especially in these highly publicized cases.
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Speaker 9: And I think a lot of folks think that that
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Speaker 9: maybe what was going on with Diddy and his children.
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Speaker 1: Let's take one more Listen to Diddy Free.
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Speaker 2: This is released by possibly the only person in the
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Speaker 2: world that ain't Shawn Combs is innocent, and that would
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Speaker 2: be his son standing by him, God bless him, Christian
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Speaker 2: King comes and of course the illustrious Kanye.
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Speaker 8: They don't understand what they stand me tell him give
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Speaker 8: me grace. Even then, me and you can be mad,
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Speaker 8: I have a spat, we can have whatever.
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Speaker 6: Than I did you better get on your job. That's really,
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Speaker 6: that's all it is.
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Speaker 8: Ain't no threat.
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Speaker 6: I'm just being clear.
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Speaker 1: Get on your job, Get on your job. Get on
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Speaker 1: your job. That says to me, sex trafficking, get in
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Speaker 1: there in the free cough. It makes me so mad.
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Speaker 2: I think you a nail in half A videoed having
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Speaker 2: sex with multiple male sex workers, Shawn Combs, you can
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Speaker 2: kiss my hard working rear in. Throughout the defense closing arguments,
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Speaker 2: Magnifilow has done exactly what we expected, dragging the victims
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Speaker 2: through the mud. He spent the morning pacing back and
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Speaker 2: forth and back and forth in front of the jury rail.
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Speaker 2: I always found that to be a crutch, a crutch
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Speaker 2: where you pause because you don't know what you're going
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Speaker 2: to say next. But that said, he is dragging the
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Speaker 2: State Star witness through the mud as we predicted. Sidney
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Speaker 2: Summer joining US Crime Stories investigative reporter, what happened?
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Speaker 3: Well, Nippolo is making it seem that Cafi was not
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Speaker 3: afraid of Sean Holmes. In the slightest he says, they
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Speaker 3: all know there was domestic violence in that relationship, but
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Speaker 3: this was not about control. Their relationship was about love.
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Speaker 3: And interestingly, Agabillo pointed to Cafie's relationship with Kid Cutty
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Speaker 3: as this huge reception and huge betrayal, and even point
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Speaker 3: called her a gangster for buying a burner phone to
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Speaker 3: communicate with Kid Cutty. So he's painting her to be
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Speaker 3: this cheer, this liar, this betrayer. But I want to
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Speaker 3: point that it wasn't even Kathy's idea to get that
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Speaker 3: burner phone. Capricorn Clark was so terrified of what Combs
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Speaker 3: would do when he learned that Cassy was seeing another man,
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Speaker 3: and this was on a break. They had taken a break,
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Speaker 3: They were not dating at this point when she started
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Speaker 3: to see Kid Cutty, so there really was no overlap
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Speaker 3: here in Casey's mind. The Capricorn Clark, her close friend
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Speaker 3: Comb Staffer warned her that she could not mention Kid
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Speaker 3: Cutty on cell phone that Comb's paid for, so she
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Speaker 3: went out and bought a burner phone to talk to him.
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Speaker 3: So I think it's interesting that agne Phillo was trying
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Speaker 3: to make that seem like, oh, Kathy wasn't scared of him,
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Speaker 3: she got a burner phone, like she had all of
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Speaker 3: this agency, in this power, and she had no reason
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Speaker 3: to be afraid of him, when that wasn't even her
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Speaker 3: idea in the first place.
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Speaker 2: Straight out to doctor beth Andy Marshall announced psycho analyst
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Speaker 2: adjoining out of the Beverly Hills jurisdiction.
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Speaker 1: She's the author of deal Breakers.
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Speaker 2: You can see her now on Peacock and you can
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Speaker 2: find her at doctor Bethanymarshall dot com. Could I see
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Speaker 2: the video please, New York Control Room. Here's all the
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Speaker 2: love Agnifilo is talking about. There's one person that at
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Speaker 2: the get go look the other way. He tried.
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Speaker 1: He tried to get Cassie Ventira to file a police report.
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Speaker 1: She wouldn't.
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Speaker 2: She just wanted to leave. Here's the love. There you go.
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Speaker 2: What about that, Doctor Bethany Marshall. There's all the love
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Speaker 2: Agnifilos talking about enclosing statements.
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Speaker 5: Magnifilo better mind his p's and q's with the jurors,
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Speaker 5: because jurors are real people, just like you and I,
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Speaker 5: and they can feel insulted by these kinds of arguments.
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Speaker 5: By now, we all know a sex trafficking that the
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Speaker 5: initial stage of the trafficker in trapping the victim, is
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Speaker 5: pretending that it's a love relationship. But it quickly deteriorates
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Speaker 5: when they start to share sexual fantasies. The victim of
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Speaker 5: being with other people, the victim initially believes that they're
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Speaker 5: pleasing their boyfriend. Then it escalates to violence, which is
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Speaker 5: what we're talking about right now. Cassie had a burner
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Speaker 5: phone because she was afraid for her life, and for
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Speaker 5: good reason. Allegedly pitt Daddy went and threw a molotov
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Speaker 5: or had one of his staff throw molotov cocktail into
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Speaker 5: Kid Cuttie's car. Of course she had a burner phone.
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Speaker 5: She's not stupid. She wanted to protect them and serve
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Speaker 5: their life.
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Speaker 2: As much as I would love to talk about the
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Speaker 2: Molotov cocktail on k Cutty's car that obviously Sean Combs
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Speaker 2: did with his designer scarf as a wick, I'm talking
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Speaker 2: about love right now, all the love that we're seeing.
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Speaker 2: To Eric Fattis, let me talk to you about all
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Speaker 2: the love that Agnifilo is describing to the jury as
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Speaker 2: if what they should believe him instead of their lyon
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Speaker 2: eyes when they saw that beat down at the Intercontinental.
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Speaker 2: Here's the thing before the so much close circuit TV
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Speaker 2: security cams, doorbell cams, you name it. Right. Very often,
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Speaker 2: the defense could get away with so much because it
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Speaker 2: wasn't on video. And I would have to argue, the
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Speaker 2: jury's what do you want a video? Because there's not
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Speaker 2: a video. These things happen behind closed doors. You have
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Speaker 2: to decide who you believe him or her, right, And
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Speaker 2: I would argue, think about it, who's got skin in
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Speaker 2: the game, Who's got something to lose?
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Speaker 1: He is looking at life.
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Speaker 2: Behind bars, he's got a dog in the fight. So
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Speaker 2: think about that when you weigh credibility. Who is telling
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Speaker 2: the truth? Who to believe? But now we have the video,
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Speaker 2: so Agnifello Wait, so Agnifilo is actually arguing.
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Speaker 1: She loved him and he loved her.
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Speaker 2: So what are they supposed to just erase that video
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Speaker 2: out of their mind because we have the video?
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Speaker 9: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Exactly.
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Speaker 9: I mean here, the defense can't really, you know, sort
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Speaker 9: of fabricate something about a really rosy and nice relationship
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Speaker 9: and rainbows and sunshine and everything else. You look at
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Speaker 9: the video and clearly it's much more complicated than that.
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Speaker 9: That being said, defense has no choice but to go
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Speaker 9: after Cassie's credibility. There have been some inconsistent statements, and
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Speaker 9: that is the defense.
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Speaker 2: See love Story with Ryan O'Neill and Allen McGrath.
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Speaker 1: Did you ever see it?
28:42
Speaker 2: That's a yes, no, simple yes, no fadus No, well,
28:45
Speaker 2: maybe you need to brush up on love story. You
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Speaker 2: can even just listen to the song, Okay, and that
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Speaker 2: really is what Agnifilo's closing argument is. Okay, Lynn, I
28:59
Speaker 2: know you're sitting down, but you may need to lay down.
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Speaker 2: Sidney Soner correct me if I'm wrong, because this morning
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Speaker 2: in a very bold strategy.
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Speaker 1: Let me just say ephemistically.
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Speaker 2: Agnifilo calls the relationship between Combs and Ventura a great
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Speaker 2: modern love story. No, no, I don't know if that's
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Speaker 2: bold or just damn stupid. There's really no other way
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Speaker 2: to put that. He also told the jurors that the
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Speaker 2: couple's text messages, many of them, of course, were sexually graphic,
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Speaker 2: were some of the quote most beautiful things I've ever read. Okay,
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Speaker 2: can we start with a great modern love story?
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Speaker 5: When I'm almost speechless, but I'm going to try to
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Speaker 5: just pull myself up and go through this. First of all,
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Speaker 5: I did see Love Story, actually saw it in a
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Speaker 5: movie theater. I was a kid, but I saw it
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Speaker 5: in the movie theater. Women Love Women love to get beaten,
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Speaker 5: you know, pulled by their ne their hair, they're hoodie.
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Speaker 1: They love to get kicked.
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Speaker 5: When they're down. And you know what, this is the
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Speaker 5: same all playbook. I am such a broken record here
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Speaker 5: that we see every time I'm in court with victims
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Speaker 5: the justice system, they're always blaming them. That's what they
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Speaker 5: do because they have nothing else. The strongest piece of evidence,
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Speaker 5: in my opinion, is this video right here. And you
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Speaker 5: know what, I woke up thinking about something today, Nancy,
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Speaker 5: And I hope you just indulge me for a minute.
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Speaker 5: You know, right now, everybody knows in public spaces and hotels,
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Speaker 5: we have cameras. So this guy isn't concerned at all
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Speaker 5: with kicking her, beating her, dragging her, knowing, knowing, probably
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Speaker 5: knowing there are cameras. You know what he's concerned with.
30:37
Speaker 5: It occurred to me, he's concerned with holding his towel up.
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Speaker 5: Have you noticed he has his hand on it. He
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Speaker 5: tucks it in at one point, not concerned with the beating,
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Speaker 5: holding his towel up, and Nancy, I'm going somewhere I
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Speaker 5: never thought I would go. He's afraid for his towel
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Speaker 5: to fall off off and I think you might have
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Speaker 5: that prop somewhere around you because he doesn't want people
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Speaker 5: to see his body. He doesn't care he's beating a
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Speaker 5: woman and we're all seeing it. We have video evans
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Speaker 5: about keeping that. There you go. I thought I'd never
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Speaker 5: go here, Nancy, but I have to go there because
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Speaker 5: I woke up thinking about it. He's more concerned that
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Speaker 5: we don't see that t R. I don't want to
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Speaker 5: say the whole thing because this is a family program.
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Speaker 4: That's what some.
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Speaker 2: People were all so far to refer to it as
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Speaker 2: a little raisin. But that said, he does I don't
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Speaker 2: know anything about that. Well, he's holding that towel. He's
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Speaker 2: not concerned about beating. But can I can I get
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Speaker 2: your take on uh hey, wait wait for this. I'm
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Speaker 2: just wondering if the women, especially on the jurior, are like, what.
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Speaker 1: Is he saying?
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Speaker 6: Yes?
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Speaker 1: Has he lost his mind?
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Speaker 2: You know that's that's a sign when I have to
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Speaker 2: say has he lost his mind? This many times in
31:42
Speaker 2: one trial, referring to the defense attorney another thing, Agnifolo argued,
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Speaker 2: in addition to the horribly hey, can we show the
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Speaker 2: bruises on Cassie's side? These are just some of the
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Speaker 2: brew uses. This is the loving relationship we're talking about now, Okay.
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Speaker 2: To doctor Bethany Marshall, Agnifilo calls the relationship between Combs
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Speaker 2: and his victim, Casi Ventira a quote great modern love story.
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Speaker 2: He also says that their texts referring to free coughs
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Speaker 2: and graphic sex were a quote, some of the most
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Speaker 2: beautiful things I've ever read.
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Speaker 1: Poor thing.
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Speaker 2: He obviously did not take English literature in college. But also,
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Speaker 2: you're sitting down right, Bethany. Okay, Because Agnifilo argues to
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Speaker 2: the jury, wait for it. Combs and Ventor were, quote
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Speaker 2: their best selves when it came to sex. It was
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Speaker 2: a relationship based on love and intensity.
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Speaker 1: You mean the intensity of his right hook.
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Speaker 6: Best sex.
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Speaker 5: Us of sex worker urinating in her mouth, mouth sores, vomiting.
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Speaker 6: I don't think so.
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Speaker 5: Remember Scott Peterson, the one in the Midwest, the police
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Speaker 5: officer who wrote a Valentine's note to his wife saying
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Speaker 5: nothing says I love you like a glock and then
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Speaker 5: she ended up dead. That's where violence and love get
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Speaker 5: confused as one and the same. Violence and love are
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Speaker 5: not the same thing at all. They're very different. They're
33:31
Speaker 5: different properties, they're different attachment styles. I see no evidence
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Speaker 5: of love in this relationship, none at all. Why would
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Speaker 5: Cassie love somebody who abuses her? In fact, I think
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Speaker 5: it's more of the Stockholm syndrome. These supposed love letters
33:49
Speaker 5: are when the victim is just happy that the perpetrator
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Speaker 5: hasn't killed them. They feel inordinately grateful to still be alive,
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Speaker 5: and then they placate the abuse, sir, so that they
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Speaker 5: will not be abused again. That's not a love letter, Nancy,
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Speaker 5: that's a sex traffic victim trying to keep herself safe.
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 5: P did he was walking on sunshine today, Twinkle Tools
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Speaker 5: just dancing into fair feeling extremely confident going into closing argument,
34:28
Speaker 5: and they're acting like he is going to get away
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Speaker 5: with something here.
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Speaker 6: This is a man that thinks he's going to walk away.
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Speaker 2: Straight back to Crime Stori's investigative reporter on the case
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Speaker 2: from the beginning, Sidney Sumner joining us. Okay, so in
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Speaker 2: closing arguments this morning, a niffelo hit and he hit hard,
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Speaker 2: basically conjuring up the love song of love Story with
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Speaker 2: Ryan O'Neill and Alan McGraw, Right, could you please refresh
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Speaker 2: your recollections on what he actually fixed his mouth to
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Speaker 2: say to the journey.
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Speaker 3: His words exactly were a great modern love story, describes
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Speaker 3: the relationship between Sean Cones and Cassy Ventura, and he
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Speaker 3: said that their text messages were some of the most
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Speaker 3: beautiful things I've ever read.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Doctor Bethany Marshall, Doctor bethany, Where do I begin
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Speaker 2: to tell the story of how great a love can be?
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Speaker 2: The sweet love story that is older than the sea,
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Speaker 2: the simple truth about the love she brings to me?
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Speaker 2: Where do I start?
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Speaker 1: See?
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Speaker 2: That's the problem right there, what Agniffil is doing right there,
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Speaker 2: He is transplanting love onto vicious beatings where the victims
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Speaker 2: would get mouth sores, stomach ailments, STDs that were so
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Speaker 2: strong that antibiotics would work on them anymore. The beatings,
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Speaker 2: the draggings, the slices to the head, and he calls
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Speaker 2: this the greatest love story he's ever sane. Is anybody
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Speaker 2: buying that that's why women continue to be beaten and killed?
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Speaker 5: He's saying it was a great love story. We can
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Speaker 5: all see that there was no love there at all.
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Speaker 5: But you know, Agnifilo is actually engaging in a logic
36:30
Speaker 5: flaw because let's say there was love, which there wasn't,
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Speaker 5: that doesn't matter in terms of the charges. All that
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Speaker 5: has to be proven is that once he used force,
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Speaker 5: fraud or coersion to get somebody to perform sex acts.
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Speaker 5: So why does it matter if there was a great
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Speaker 5: love story, which we know there wasn't. But most of all,
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Speaker 5: this this just serves as a huge disservice to women.
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Speaker 5: And I think it's interesting that a man is making
36:57
Speaker 5: this argument. Doesn't he have daughter's sisters, a mother. Doesn't
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Speaker 5: he know what sex abuse is. I know he's just
37:04
Speaker 5: trying to mount a defense, but I don't know how
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Speaker 5: he could get up there and just lie. It's so
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Speaker 5: so unfortunate. It's like he's manipulating the jury.
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Speaker 2: Another thing that we must keep in mind is the
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Speaker 2: state has the right to a rebuttal argument.
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Speaker 10: Explain very quickly, Eric Faddus. Because the state has the burden.
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Speaker 10: They get essentially two closing arguments, an initial one and
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Speaker 10: then the defense goes and then the state goes again,
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Speaker 10: and it really has to be responsive to the defense's
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Speaker 10: argument and encountering some of the points defense makes during
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Speaker 10: their closing argument.
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Speaker 2: Guys, the world has known what was happening behind closed
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Speaker 2: doors forever. The fans finally acted when Cassie Venturer bought
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Speaker 2: a civil lawsuit and got a settlement of twenty million dollars.
37:53
Speaker 2: The very next day, Seawan comes issuing a pathetic, sad
37:57
Speaker 2: seck apology that win out on his insta. I mean
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Speaker 2: even Eminem rapped about it. Listen, well, I'm like so many.
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Speaker 1: He didn't just fail the word rapper and the avout.
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Speaker 2: Did he. He didn't just say raper, did he? I mean,
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Speaker 2: come on, he is rapping about it. He's waving it
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Speaker 2: right under the Fed's noses. Everybody knew. Okay, uh, what
38:28
Speaker 2: about this on Conan? And this was years before these charges.
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Speaker 1: When you go to a hotel, anytime you go to
38:35
Speaker 1: a hotel, you don't just check in the way everybody
38:37
Speaker 1: else does. You send someone ahead to prepare the hotel
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Speaker 1: room for you. It's called preparing the sexy.
38:44
Speaker 2: Of course, as we learned at trial, the people really
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Speaker 2: preparing the sexy as he refers to it, or the
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Speaker 2: minions translation in legal terms, all of the employees and
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Speaker 2: co defendance, co conspirators that create a c i'minal enterprise.
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Speaker 2: Now that was from our friends at late night with
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Speaker 2: Conan O'Brien.
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Speaker 6: And there's more if we work hard, and I just
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Speaker 6: like I like my room.
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Speaker 1: To be sexy. Sure, you like to prepare the sexy,
39:09
Speaker 1: is what you're saying. You can't just count on the sexy,
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Speaker 1: prepare the sex sy.
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Speaker 8: You have to make sure you go, you go through
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Speaker 8: the proper measures to make sure that you're sexy is there.
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Speaker 6: When you are arrived.
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Speaker 1: Can you say criminal enterprise?
39:20
Speaker 2: All of the employees that had to clean up the
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Speaker 2: free costs one involved two slipping falls. The oil, the
39:29
Speaker 2: baby oil was so deep and thick in the room.
39:33
Speaker 2: Again from our friends at late Night with Conan O'Brien
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Speaker 2: and wait for it comes even goes on National TV
39:42
Speaker 2: and jokes about locking women in the hotel room.
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Speaker 8: If you don't have what they need, they're gonna leave, right,
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Speaker 8: Gotta keep them there, right, need locks on the doors.
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Speaker 1: Okay, this is sounding kind of dangerous. Now that's a
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Speaker 1: little kinky.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, again from our friends at late Night with
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Speaker 2: ConA O'Brien, Doctor bethany Many, a true word is spoken
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Speaker 2: in jest.
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Speaker 1: I mean all of the predictors were there.
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Speaker 5: This is a true confession. And if it had been
40:14
Speaker 5: a female host. Do you think she would jokingly say
40:18
Speaker 5: this sounds dangerous. She would look at him and say
40:21
Speaker 5: this is inappropriate. So I'm really concerned about how men
40:25
Speaker 5: are conspiring in the situation to minimize what is happening.
40:30
Speaker 5: You know that Eminem's song Nancy, he's not minimizing it.
40:33
Speaker 5: He is calling Sean Combs out because Eminem has a
40:38
Speaker 5: daughter he loves, Hayley. Eminem is very protective of women.
40:42
Speaker 5: So here he's outing p Diddy and nobody pays attention.
40:46
Speaker 5: It's like a societal collusion on the fact that women
40:50
Speaker 5: should be oppressed in this way.
40:52
Speaker 2: You know, it brings to mind to Sidney Sumner, Crime
40:55
Speaker 2: Story's investigative reporter, that moment of testimony, and if I
40:59
Speaker 2: were the prosecut in this case, I would be beaten
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Speaker 2: on this with a hammer. If I had a hammerman,
41:04
Speaker 2: I'd be singing out in the courtroom where Cassie Ventura
41:08
Speaker 2: in the middle of a beating, people were just standing
41:10
Speaker 2: around doing nothing. And she looked at them and to me,
41:14
Speaker 2: this is a poignant moment of his trial.
41:16
Speaker 1: And she said, can't you see what he's doing?
41:20
Speaker 2: To me? Why aren't you doing anything? And I would
41:23
Speaker 2: put it to that jury. Are you going to be
41:26
Speaker 2: one of them? Why aren't you doing anything convict him?
41:32
Speaker 2: Do you remember that moment in trial, Sidney Sumner, Absolutely.
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Speaker 3: That was former assistant George Kaplan testifying about one of
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Speaker 3: the violent incidents he witnessed that led to him quitting,
41:47
Speaker 3: leaving this job, saying I can't be a part of this.
41:50
Speaker 3: And that was on a twenty fifteen flight to Las
41:53
Speaker 3: Vegas on Comb's private jets, and Caplan said that he
41:58
Speaker 3: heard the sound of glass shattering, and he turned to
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Speaker 3: look at the couple and he saw Cassy laying with
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Speaker 3: her back on the ground, powering, covering her face with
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Speaker 3: her hands, and Cones was standing over her, holding a
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Speaker 3: whiskey glass over his head, poised to like throw this
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Speaker 3: at Cathy's face. And in this standoff, Cassey screamed out,
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Speaker 3: isn't anybody seeing this? Because there's other security guards Kaplin's
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Speaker 3: on this flight. They were not alone on this plane
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Speaker 3: with Kaplan, and multiple people saw this and did nothing.
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Speaker 1: We are headed to a verdict.
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Speaker 2: Watch here at crime Stories as we wait for justice
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Speaker 2: to unfold in the Monahan Federal Courthouse, we remember an
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Speaker 2: American hero, Sergeant J. D. White, Angleton PD, just fifty one,
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Speaker 2: killed in a line of duty. Served nineteen years.
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Speaker 1: In LA law enforcement.
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Speaker 2: Lie's behind a grieving wife, Amy and children Jonathan, Austin
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Speaker 2: and Rachel American hero J D.
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Speaker 8: White.
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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace signing off goodbye friend,