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- MARK HAYES (00:01.678) All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back. Another exciting edition of Two Men in Black and White, an Honest Conversation. I'm your host, Mark Hayes, along with Brock Ginellis, and we're talking about leadership today. Are our elected leaders actually leaders? Or are they just politicians trying to get their finger on the pulse of what's happening and then go and represent our feelings? Brock and Ellis joins me from the lovely confines of the Upper Hudson River Valley. Brock, what say you? Are they really leaders? I don't see a lot of leadership, especially through January 6th, especially through Trump 2.0. Where's the leadership? Brock Ganeles (00:44.734) Yeah, I don't think they're leaders. I've come to the conclusion, like I get it. They're representatives. And now I'm specifically speaking about House and Senate members who generally get depicted as like political leaders, party leaders and the like. But I don't think they're necessarily thought leaders. They're representatives. They're trying to get reelected first. That's the most important job in their mind. MARK HAYES (01:12.887) Brock Ganeles (01:13.684) their most important job is themselves to get reelected. So they're trying to figure out what waves they need to ride in terms of getting reelected. Where I am getting frustrated, increasingly frustrated is that on the left, which is where I sit is I don't feel like the representatives are even to this point are bringing the amount of fire and energy. MARK HAYES (01:17.272) you Brock Ganeles (01:43.214) of the constituents that they represent. If 86 % of America wants the Epstein files released, then everyone, every representative should be, you know, in that camp and pushing that hard. So if you look at the polling and where America is on policies and where America is in terms of their frustration with what's going on around them, I don't think it's reflected and being properly represented. by our political appointees. And it's the rare case where we actually get someone who's leading and out ahead of where the constituents are and saying, Hey, here's where you guys should want us to take you. Like what Bernie Sanders would do on universal healthcare for 50 years. He's been trying to do it, but he's actually trying to get America to a place that we're not at mentally yet. To me, that's leadership, but that's MARK HAYES (02:39.264) Right. Bye. Brock Ganeles (02:48.285) you and far between. What's your take? I don't feel like I'm being well represented. My representative is Pat Ryan. Nice, calm guy. gave a good speech at the the last no Kings rally. He's a he's he's a serviceman, so he's served overseas, I believe. But is he coming with a fire that I think I want to be represented by? Not even close. What do you think? MARK HAYES (02:53.452) Yeah. MARK HAYES (03:15.05) My leader is Andrew Clyde. He of nutty MAGA fame. Like how can I call that leadership? Right? Like he's leading us right off the cliff with his ridiculous stances. And you know, he's the, I believe he's the one who coined the phrase, you know, January 6th was just a walk in the park. Right? Like, I mean, and this guy's... Like he's on, you can't unseat him. Nobody's trying to unseat him. You know, because we're down here in, you know, the outskirts of Atlanta, it's Ruby Red. You get OTP outside the perimeter and things get really red and really dicey. And, you know, if you're not leading all the people, if you're not representing all the people, then what are you doing? Right? Brock Ganeles (04:06.729) again. MARK HAYES (04:16.46) You're pushing your agenda and that's not leadership in any way, shape, form or fashion. Brock Ganeles (04:22.779) No, it sounds to me like he's like reflective of I guess it's the majority of your of your the populace or the voting populace in your area. So you're stuck with the guy that's representing the extreme right. And yeah, you're you're screwed. MARK HAYES (04:41.334) Right. Screwed. In a word. In a word. You know, I think the last time we saw leadership, President Obama, before that it was W, 9-11. I really appreciated and respected what he did in terms of uniting the country. Is that, because... You know, I think we all pretty much universally believe that's the last time we were one, right? That's the last time black folks were happy. We're getting a break, right? Like all the attention was going to people from the Middle East and, you know, we got a foot off our neck for a year or two. But, you know, I think that was the last time we could say, you know, one for all, all for one in this country. Brock Ganeles (05:33.609) Yeah, and then they blew it and then they blew it and took that capital they had of the support of the whole country and decided to use it to go fight the wrong war. Right. And then they just they just they absolutely butchered the goodwill that had been garnered in that post nine post 9 11 period. MARK HAYES (05:42.508) Make money. MARK HAYES (05:52.426) Yeah. Did we ever get a readout on the numbers of what Halliburton made cleaning up that war? I don't know if there's enough numbers on a calculator. They made so much goddamn money. I mean, it was ridiculous. I took a cruise out of one of those East Texas ports and it goes by the Halliburton property. Brock Ganeles (05:57.706) Absolutely not, but... MARK HAYES (06:20.106) and you are cruising for a while alongside the Halliburton property and it's all you know equipment buildings trucks you name it they own a lot of stuff and if they got all that stuff as property imagine what's in their bank account Brock Ganeles (06:42.333) Yeah. But Mark, think, I think your voting district and your representative Clyde, I think you said his name was, is kind of reflective of where we are nationally, where it's like a extreme, you know, a president or maybe got just enough votes in just enough places to, you know, to win the presidential election, get to get that. MARK HAYES (06:44.269) Hey! MARK HAYES (06:49.603) Yeah. MARK HAYES (06:54.83) Yeah? Brock Ganeles (07:11.335) that role bring in as far right incompetence corrupt you know crew of cronies to fill his administration and take that project 2025 blueprint and absolutely run rough shot and just represent a decreasing sliver of the country. What appears to be now right around one third of the country and we're going in their direction while two thirds of us sit here, know, pressing on the imaginary brake, but we're in the passenger seat and we got no fucking say over, you know. taking these hairpin turns at 120 miles an hour. And we're just hoping we don't go over the cliff, you know, with this drunk driver that we have. MARK HAYES (07:57.379) Yeah. Brock Ganeles (07:57.862) And that's where I get back to the frustration I have with the representatives because I just don't feel like the anger that is boiled up in the American populace is reflected out through the representatives that get the airtime and the microphone and the megaphone and have the opportunity to speak on our behalf. And they're not speaking with the vigor that MARK HAYES (08:12.845) No. Brock Ganeles (08:27.081) that we need. And it's just, it's so frustrating to sit here, me and you, like screaming into the abyss of YouTube, you know, and the internet along with like thousands of other people, you know, with like very few listeners. Um, and, know, inventing our frustrations, but not seeing it on the, in the, on the broader platforms. MARK HAYES (08:37.324) Okay. MARK HAYES (08:43.415) Right? MARK HAYES (08:52.436) Right. And that's the problem, We're not getting our money's worth. Right? And again, Virginia's got the redistricting, but you should see Andrew Clyde's district. Right? I mean, it's here, it's there, down, over. It goes all the way over the Dalton, from Dalton on the west side of the state near Marjorie Taylor Greene's district, all the way back over east into Athens to get the Athens vote. Right? Not the college students, but Athens proper outside the city and then down into Metro Atlanta and back up. I mean, the thing is drawn, it looks a lot like Dan Crenshaw's district in Texas, if you've ever seen that, where he just drew in, he literally went through and said, which one of these are right neighborhoods? Brock Ganeles (09:41.107) Yeah, I've seen that, Brock Ganeles (09:47.325) Yeah, just picking houses so perfectly gerrymandered. MARK HAYES (09:51.006) Yeah Absolutely selected the right neighborhoods to keep himself in office, but you know this Virginia thing All the big guns were out on this. I mean Fox was I mean they were hammering this did you see how many different big so-called big guns from the far-right extremist MAGA Cult were out stumping for this thing and everybody that's your boy Spicer out there what's that kid cain used to be a sports guy and you could tell he was just a car carrying clan Brock Ganeles (10:29.446) Dean Dean came they played Superman, but he was a fool MARK HAYES (10:32.494) No, no, the other one. Guy thinks he's the best looking guy on earth. I can't think of his first name, but he was a sports reporter. And oh my gosh, he came across as such, such a right wing lunatic. And now he's on Fox. They had him out there. I mean, they had all the names out there, the usual players in Virginia to try to rally to get this. redrawn map, right? Mid decade. Why are we even doing this mid decade? Right? That's the issue. That's the bigger issue. You're forcing us to do this. Right? Right. Brock Ganeles (11:14.857) Because we have to, because Texas did it. Because if you don't fight fire, would fire if you bring a knife to a gunfight like you're a dead man. So I like what Virginia did. I mean, they did it in more respectful way. They took it to a statewide vote, not just like a state senate super majority just redrawn whatever fuck they wanted to try to squeeze as many. MARK HAYES (11:23.586) Yep. Yep. MARK HAYES (11:34.796) like Hot Wheels. Brock Ganeles (11:43.402) reps out as they could. It's just, mean, to me, it's kind of sad for America that these games are being played throughout the country, but if we don't play them, we're going to lose democracy. So we're going to have to play the games until we can put new rules in place that carves this shit out of, you know, the American political system. MARK HAYES (11:45.505) Mm-hmm. MARK HAYES (11:50.126) Right. MARK HAYES (11:59.063) Right. MARK HAYES (12:05.802) Right, right, and it's been around. It's not new. I remember back in the 92 election, we were talking about it in Georgia, South Georgia, the way the districts were gerrymandered. Sanford Bishop was in a heck of a battle down there trying to win his seat. And I believe he's still in office with that Southwest Georgia seat going up into Columbus down to Albany below the NAT line there. That's how you get rid of the gnats when they fly around you. When they fly around your face. I learned that when I was there. But that was, yeah, I mean, we've been talking about gerrymandering for, you know, what's that, 35 years now? And, you know, that was the Bill Clinton election, right? You know, Bill got two terms, but we were coming off, you know, Bush 41, which was a tough. Brock Ganeles (12:43.337) important lessons. MARK HAYES (13:03.246) time, 88 to 92, was a tough economic time. And Bill Clinton got folks in homes. But, you know, he also came with the crime bill. And if you look at the numbers, you know, President Biden was a big proponent of the crime bill in 91. And if you look at the incarceration numbers, you know, all this stuff matters, right, because it's all related. Right. It's all related. Brock Ganeles (13:29.061) It all matters. Absolutely all tied together. I mean, gerrymandering is basically has been basically just, you know, racism on electoral paper. Right. It's really just been, we got a bunch of all the black votes into one district. So they only like they only get their one seat where they can influence things. And we'll take the other eight. Right. And you get these states and have like one Democratic congressman and eight Republicans. MARK HAYES (13:39.118) Yes. Brock Ganeles (13:57.658) And so, you know, Virginia now is going to recarve it. So the cities are maybe, you know, not just all as a part of one district, but this all comes down to race. starts with what, what is the, what are the voting groups look like? And then it's going to, you know, then the gaze is going to, after Virginia, it's all the next six months is all going to be about who gets to vote. MARK HAYES (14:22.464) Right, right. Because we know he's going to do everything in his power to steal the election or prevent the elections from happening fairly. He's already said it. His cronies have intimated it. we already know where this thing is headed. So either we get out there in ridiculous numbers to make sure that The numbers are too big to dispute. Yeah? Brock Ganeles (14:52.937) like Hungary did, like Hungary did. Why did Orbán actually concede? He conceded because it was too overwhelming. He didn't have wiggle room. He didn't have a place to, dis anything to dispute with any credibility. Cause if he had, he would have, he never would have conceded. He would have called martial law. He would have, you know, done some sort of recount somehow got it. MARK HAYES (14:59.469) Mm-hmm. MARK HAYES (15:05.527) and all. Brock Ganeles (15:20.807) half the ballots thrown out and would have won. And you know, Trump's already looking at that shit, but they've been playing the gerrymander and the voter registration game. That's the SAVE Act. That's why all these rules are in place. That's why they spend all their time talking about fraudulent voters of which there may be five in the last election, but trying to make it into a huge controversy so they can do a crackdown primarily of minority voters. MARK HAYES (15:40.813) Right. MARK HAYES (15:47.404) Yep. Brock Ganeles (15:47.848) I mean, the games that are played are so obvious and simple. And the fact that we have to applaud when we hear one of these politicians actually tell us the obvious and we have to pretend like they're hitting us over the head with something genius. They should all be out. they're representing us properly, they would be out there all day, every day, counter messaging because they actually have the microphone and the megaphone. to make a difference with the messaging. And I literally most of the time, just don't see it. I don't know what the fuck they're doing. Just a handful of them that make a bunch of noise and the rest of them just, you know, punch the clock. MARK HAYES (16:25.88) Mm-mm. MARK HAYES (16:33.198) Yeah, I mean, it seems like they're just picking up a check. I mean, we know that most of these guys, when they're done, are much richer than when their career began. What the hell is that? You know, like, how are you making extra money during your representative duties? A lot of lobbying. Brock Ganeles (16:55.497) A lot of lobbying going on, a lot of lobbying. MARK HAYES (16:59.022) Right. And now I'm not opposed to you doing speeches and stuff afterwards. But while you're in office, how did Mitch McConnell on $175,000 salary make what? $22 million? Brock Ganeles (17:19.945) How is it that they're allowed to invest in stocks right ahead of legislation that there's still to this day, there's no rules against trading in equities, even individual stocks whose fates are determined by policies that your committee votes on. You know exactly the impact on the business and the company. MARK HAYES (17:24.017) off MARK HAYES (17:27.896) Right. MARK HAYES (17:43.693) Right. Brock Ganeles (17:49.447) before you vote and you can go you can call your broker the day before and actually trade on that information and it's somehow legal. MARK HAYES (17:58.839) Right. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. And so many of them are doing it. Matter of fact, you're dumb if you're not. You know? mean, especially what they get paid and what it costs to live in the nation's capital anymore. Brock Ganeles (18:14.877) Yeah, that it's almost viewed as like a perk of the job. Yeah. Part of how I'm going to make side cash is I'm going to play the markets ahead of all of our decisions because obviously I'm going to know what's coming down the pipe and I'm going to be ahead of any every event. Even the smartest investors, the smartest hedge fund guys, I'm going to have an edge on them because I'm voting on it. Only I know, right? Only the people in a certain room know they're always going to be first to the information. So MARK HAYES (18:33.452) Right. Right. Brock Ganeles (18:45.085) Just yeah, I mean, the system needs such an overhaul and but the people that are in the seats right now, you know, they the fight has to be just the fight has to be so fucking aggressive and. MARK HAYES (19:01.27) Right. And we don't have it. Brock Ganeles (19:04.371) We just don't have it. We're just not, we're just not there with it yet. And it's in, and that the sentiment of the populace at this point is boiling over so much and it's even boiling over to Maga world. They just don't know where to go with their anger because they can't get out of Maga world because it's too much apart embedded with a part of who they are. MARK HAYES (19:19.566) Mm-hmm. Right. MARK HAYES (19:31.959) Right. Brock Ganeles (19:32.234) And they're so tied to the racism and the social capital they think they get from being a part of that group that like runs shit and kicks other people out and decides who is an American and who isn't. So they're just too tied into that, even though it's killing them. They can't afford their bills. They can't afford their health care. They can't afford to eat. They've lost their jobs. Their car's getting repossessed. Yet they still... MARK HAYES (19:51.735) Yeah. Brock Ganeles (20:01.789) you know, third of them still clinging to it because they can't let go because they don't know what they don't know what life is if they let go. Who are they? MARK HAYES (20:09.812) Right. Right. I mean, that is their identity. Right. The MAGA MAGA is the racism. You know, that's why black MAGA makes no sense. Right. Because you're supporting the racism against yourself. Right. Like you're you're OK with the restrictions being placed on you. You're OK with money being sucked out of the HBC use. You're OK with the elimination of D.E.I. You're OK. with every racist comment, every racist move that Stephen Miller makes. Brown people were first. Who do you think is next on the ICE roundups? They're still buying warehouses. They're not buying them for chickens. Who's next? I got news for you, Black MAGA. You're gonna get cuffed too, even if you are in one of the MAGA meetings at the time. So, you know, I just, know, MAGA has no way out. There's no way to reinvent itself. There's no way to give us another iteration. You know, this was the Tea Party, but it's the Tea Party with the racism. And it's the Tea Party who's not fiscally responsible because the leader doesn't care about big government. He doesn't care about, you know, all these entitlement all he cares about is making money or him too Brock Ganeles (21:41.95) Yeah. The fiscal responsibility, the fiscal responsibility angle, the tea party turned out to be a fraud, right? It was really just a racism movement. That's why it's really interesting what Tucker Carlson is doing right now by going on an apology tour for having supported Trump and in his mind, helping Trump get elected for the second time. Carlson saying that, you know, his support help, help that. MARK HAYES (21:47.534) I'm so stoked. MARK HAYES (21:54.315) Mm-hmm. Brock Ganeles (22:10.387) He's embarrassed that he was a part of bringing Trump around again, which is his anti Trumpist statement as anyone on the left makes, right? That's as aggressive as an anti Trump. So he must be looking forward to and looking at the next iteration of the MAGA movement with himself at the helm. It's probably just waiting for Trump to die. He's probably making a life expectancy bet. MARK HAYES (22:20.398) Right. Brock Ganeles (22:38.183) that Trump's going to die or that people are just watching the the approval ratings and watching the YouTube's of MAGA complaining about everything and saying, I can be a MAGA leader that they support. The problem is Tucker Carlson's more racist than Trump. MARK HAYES (22:56.268) Big time. Brock Ganeles (22:56.361) And that's where MAGA goes next. They don't go to the middle. MARK HAYES (22:59.298) Thank you. Yeah, now they're staying way out there on the right, out there on Pluto, Earth 2, or whatever Nicole Wallace calls it. I mean, they're not coming back into normalized, respectful politics. We should not expect to see that anytime, anytime soon. Brock Ganeles (23:24.521) Well, how do they come back into integrated society? They they fucked black America. They took everything away that they could on project 2025. They fucked Latino America, right? They were cheering, you know, while this, you know, mass Gestapo rounded up any Latino they could find. Citizen, non-citizen, they haven't given a shit yet, right? Like you said, who knows exactly who and when they're coming after the next group. So they're not going to peel away from MAGA and like, MARK HAYES (23:27.458) They can't. MARK HAYES (23:31.884) Yep. Yep. MARK HAYES (23:44.782) Right. Brock Ganeles (23:53.587) Are they going to apologize for all that shit and say, we're sorry. No, cause it's what they believe. It's the war. It's the America they want to live in. So they ain't coming back to anything integrated. MARK HAYES (24:04.894) No, no, not this lifetime. And they are who they are. They're the worst of the worst, unfortunately. We gotta call it like we see it. I mean, you those 1500 people that got pardoned from January 6th, I mean, they're supposed to be in prison. They deserve to be in prison. What they did to Michael Fanon and Harry, what's, Harry again. Brock Ganeles (24:29.79) Don, Harry, don. MARK HAYES (24:32.514) You know, the female police officer that was accosted, like. You know, and I have to say it, you know, if those January sixes had been black. Brock Ganeles (24:45.63) They'd be dead, every one of them. MARK HAYES (24:48.047) Mode down. Mode down. You saw it during the George Floyd protest, what they were waiting for with, right? Armed to the T. They were waiting for George Floyd protesters. And. Brock Ganeles (25:03.58) One shot was fired at the Capitol, right? One shot, Ashley Babbitt, one shot. It would have been, the police wouldn't have been told not to use their firearms. Of course they would use their firearms. Like why didn't they? As I was watching them, like I can't believe they're not gunning people down. How are they letting people storm the Capitol? Like they were allowed into the Capitol without, MARK HAYES (25:06.754) Yep. Yep. MARK HAYES (25:14.478) Yep. MARK HAYES (25:24.76) Right? Brock Ganeles (25:29.47) You know, yes, there was a fight, like hand to hand combat, like they... It's... No, it was absurd. MARK HAYES (25:36.31) And you don't know who's in that crowd. Could have been a bunch of MMA fighters in there, and there were. Brock Ganeles (25:42.475) They got off easy and then they got pardoned, but they got off easy in the first place in terms of what they were charged with and the way they were sentenced. I that was treason. mean, if it was the seven, know, 1807, they would have all been hung for treason. There would have been no, like, you're going away for 180 days, you know? MARK HAYES (25:51.436) Yep. Yep. MARK HAYES (25:59.053) They get hung. Brock Ganeles (26:05.802) 92 days with good behavior for putting up a gallows outside the White House and chanting kill that they're gonna kill the vice president. You're fucking surviving that in 1807. MARK HAYES (26:13.942) Hang my pants. Yup. MARK HAYES (26:19.33) Nope, they would have been hung that night, bro. Right, they would have had picnic, right? Throwing the rope over the tree, started hanging folks. January 6th still pisses me off to no end. I mean, it was just a disgusting display of, again, toxic selfishness. I can't have my way, so I'm gonna tear shit up, which is absolutely not how this works. Absolutely not how this works. All right. Brock Ganeles (26:51.05) And then Trump was out of office for four years and they spent all that time writing up their project 2025 and figuring out a way to get his ass back in there. And then when he is, how are we going to, you know, tear down the systems, tear down everything, fuck over all the people of color, take control of this shit and never let it go. And that's where their mindset is at. MARK HAYES (26:56.771) Yep. MARK HAYES (27:11.735) Yep. Yeah. Brock Ganeles (27:15.22) for the next, you know, for the midterms and beyond. So like everything's on the fucking table and to get good, go full circle to where we started, the left is still not aggressive enough and still doesn't understand what they're up against. After all of this time. MARK HAYES (27:32.365) No. Nope, frustrating, frustrating to look at, frustrating to watch. All right, quick hit me, let's get out of here. Brock Ganeles (27:41.896) I was accused yesterday of being quote anti-status quo. you're just anti-status quo. MARK HAYES (27:51.65) I'll just leave it like it is. Brock Ganeles (27:53.587) And I thought about it and I was like, yeah, I am anti status quo, but I wasn't in the room when they established status quo. No one asked me how I felt about how I felt about status quo. I don't feel like I had a say in status quo. So why should I naturally be a supporter of it? Like MARK HAYES (28:04.546) Right. I want it. MARK HAYES (28:11.928) Alright. MARK HAYES (28:16.686) Hey. Brock Ganeles (28:18.642) And I'm a white guy saying that. How you feel about status quo? MARK HAYES (28:21.218) Right. Yeah, status quo. Okay. Yeah, I am definitely fucking anti status quo all day every day. So you can accuse me of it. I'm guilty. Things need to change in this country. Big time. Yeah, Brock, the prevailing sentiment among my friend group, you know, my seven, eight, 10, you know, people that I talk to on a regular basis. They're out of here. They are planning their exit strategy. Panama, Central America, you know, who's got the best healthcare system? Folks are outta here. I heard folks talking about Thailand because of the cost of living and how cheap it is. Brock Ganeles (29:07.838) Wow. But you have, they're going to have energy price problems because of the fucking war that we dropped on their head. But to talk status quo, the interesting race to keep an eye on is the Michigan Senate race, which has a really competitive democratic primary going on right now. Haley Stevens, Congress person, Chuck Schumer's preferred candidate. Mallory McMorrow made a name for herself in the state Senate pretty much MARK HAYES (29:13.089) Right. Brock Ganeles (29:37.789) middle the road centrist, but left of Haley Stevens, who's one of those absolute centrists. And the other guy is, Alpha Sed or something like that. What's his name? Can't remember his exact name, but he's very progressive. He's like the AOC Bernie candidate and it's a three way horse race out there. And we're going to see in the democratic party. MARK HAYES (29:44.639) Mm-hmm. MARK HAYES (29:53.506) Uh-uh. Brock Ganeles (30:05.042) what the party considers to be, whether the party wants to stay with the status quo or whether they're gonna go with the really, really rebellious, shake things up candidate. MARK HAYES (30:17.492) Wow, that's interesting. That'll be interesting. All right, before we get out of here, the John Brennan subpoenas were withdrawn. They were issued and then suddenly, whoop, withdrawn. There is no there there apparently. Apparently he committed no criminal infractions. There's nothing to investigate. So all, yeah, that just broke. Brock Ganeles (30:43.626) Who's a rat? MARK HAYES (30:46.882) Probably a win. Brock Ganeles (30:47.27) the last headline I saw was that it was, quote, heating up. I think that was... So they had nothing yet again. And they had... And they decided not even to bring it. Did a judge even see it or they didn't want to get to that point? MARK HAYES (30:50.604) Yeah. MARK HAYES (30:56.033) Yet again. MARK HAYES (31:02.6) I don't think a judge even saw it. was, you know, officials asking for voluntary interviews instead of testimony before a grand jury. You know, so that handful of subpoenas was withdrawn almost immediately. And the lead prosecutor that was on the case, I believe down in Florida, was reassigned. Brock Ganeles (31:13.428) voluntary interviews. Okay. Wow. Brock Ganeles (31:32.114) I was just going to say that prosecutors now going to get fired or whatever, because Trump's going to be pissed because he's wanting to know why it didn't go forward. Just like the people involved with the Comey and Letitia James and Bolton. They're all getting fired for not being able to like win these. Yeah. To manufacture the evidence and kind of win in a court of law, but they have nothing. But the mad fucking King doesn't care. So he'll just be ranting and raving tonight. MARK HAYES (31:35.256) Yeah. MARK HAYES (31:49.366) Manufacture. Yeah. Brock Ganeles (32:01.192) making sure that person gets fired. That's why some of them resign once they get the assignment, cause it's such a losing assignment. MARK HAYES (32:08.556) Yep, yep. That's all it is, bro. And you know, it's so frustrating that he's, you know, then they'll turn around and accuse the left of weaponizing, you know, government. They've been doing this for 16 months now. Brock Ganeles (32:23.774) That's where the rule of law is broken, right? We don't have rule of law. That's our DOJ. Our DOJ sends out prosecutors to try to drum up shit. When they fail, they fire them. MARK HAYES (32:27.456) No. Right. MARK HAYES (32:35.498) Right, right. What a joke. All right, buddy. That's it for us. We got to keep an eye on those Virginia elections. Polls closing in an hour and 10 minutes. Brock Ganeles (32:47.786) Let's go, Virginia. Don't let us down today. All right, Mark, always a pleasure. Talk to you tomorrow. MARK HAYES (32:53.132) Yes, sir. Peace.