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Speaker 1: He's the bold perform it.
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Speaker 2: Tonight the man meltdown of the media left after Donald
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Speaker 2: Trump's shock win, plus terrible details of just how quickly
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Speaker 2: the Albanezi government gave a tourist visa to a Palestinian
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Speaker 2: with links to two terrorist groups. You won't believe this
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Speaker 2: or is it tonight I'll talk to a man who
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Speaker 2: worked for two years for Donald Trump. Is he really
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Speaker 2: a dictator? And how Elon Musk just made himself another
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Speaker 2: fortune after helping Trump win. Plenty more, including Barnaby Joyce.
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Speaker 2: But first, many on the left are sure having trouble
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Speaker 2: coping with Donald Trump becoming president again. I'm sorry, no, no, no.
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Speaker 1: No, why why why.
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Speaker 3: Don't really have that?
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Speaker 2: If you think I'm about to gloat, well you're right,
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Speaker 2: But it is gloating for a good cause, because we
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Speaker 2: have to shame the liars and the hysterics who claim
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Speaker 2: too close. Came far too close to getting the empty
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Speaker 2: head of Kamala Harris elected on a great lie that
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump would be a hitler loving dictator.
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Speaker 4: Donald Trump is someone who I quote certainly falls into
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Speaker 4: the general definition of fascists, who in fact vowed to
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Speaker 4: be a dictator on day one it is deeply troubling
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Speaker 4: and incredibly dangerous that Donald Trump would invoke Adolf Hitler.
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Speaker 2: Harris even had Oprah Winfrey addresser rally the day before
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Speaker 2: the election to warn that this could be the very
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Speaker 2: last chance anyone had to vote at all.
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Speaker 5: If Trump won.
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Speaker 6: We don't get to set this one out. If we
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Speaker 6: don't show up to it is entirely possible that we
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Speaker 6: will not have the opportunity to ever cast a ballot again.
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Speaker 2: When Harris today finally ranged Trump to concede and congratulat
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Speaker 2: him on his win, I thought, how does that work?
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Speaker 2: She's congratulating a man she just the day before claimed
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Speaker 2: was a dictator.
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Speaker 5: That would kind of make you look like you'd been lying.
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Speaker 2: Harris must have wondered about that too, So when she
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Speaker 2: later addressed the whole country, her tone had changed, and
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Speaker 2: for the worse. She preached resistance as if Americans had
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Speaker 2: not just rejected a message as false, and she suggested
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Speaker 2: a fellow Americans had just voted for disaster.
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Speaker 4: I know many people feel like we are entering a
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Speaker 4: dark time, but for the benefit of us all, I
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Speaker 4: hope that is not the case. But here's the thing, America,
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Speaker 4: If it is let us fill the sky with the
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Speaker 4: light of a brilliant, brilliant billion of stars, the light
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Speaker 4: the light of optimism, of faith, of truth and service.
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Speaker 2: In fact, Harris and the media that repeated it lies,
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Speaker 2: they're about to be proved so wrong. I mean, Trump,
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Speaker 2: of course won't be a dictator. But it's not just
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Speaker 2: Harris and the media. They must now live with the
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Speaker 2: consequences of their hysterics about Donald Trump. Kevin Rudd is
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Speaker 2: now panicky, our former prime minister. You see a cheap
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Speaker 2: laughs from maybe see audiences. By trashing Trump as a madman.
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Speaker 7: The general consensus amongst anyone concerned with the public policy process,
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Speaker 7: domestic or international, thinks he's nuts.
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Speaker 2: And Rudd, now our ambassador to America, actually kept on
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Speaker 2: his web so even nastier criticisms of Trump. That is
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Speaker 2: the most destructive president in history. A drags America and
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Speaker 2: democracy through the mared thrives and fermenting division, abuses Christianity
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Speaker 2: to justify violence. A run must assumed, must have assumed
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Speaker 2: that Trump would lose. But how out of touch with
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Speaker 2: America is our ambassador Because only now that Trump's elected
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Speaker 2: that he finally deletes that post of nasty nasty abuse.
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Speaker 2: He's also explained that in his previous role as ahead
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Speaker 2: of a think tank, he was a regular commentator on
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Speaker 2: American politics, and out of respect for the office of
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Speaker 2: President of the United States following the election of President Trump,
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Speaker 2: he has now removed these past commentaries from his personal
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Speaker 2: website and social media channel. This, he says, is to
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Speaker 2: eliminate the possibility of these comments being misconstrued as reflecting
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Speaker 2: his positions as ambassador and by extension, the views of
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Speaker 2: the Australian government. Stephen run himself note admits his a
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Speaker 2: use could be interpreted as also the opinion of the
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Speaker 2: Albanzi government, and in fact it probably is, since both
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Speaker 2: our Foreign Minister and Prime Minister I have said much
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Speaker 2: the same about Trump three years ago. Penny Wong also
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Speaker 2: savage Trump, saying we've seen somebody a leader in recent
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Speaker 2: times who was prepared to trash alliances and partnerships for
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Speaker 2: personal political interests, and his name was Donald Trump. And
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Speaker 2: this is what our Prime minister said about Trump seven
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Speaker 2: years ago.
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Speaker 1: How do you deal with Trump like with trepidation.
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Speaker 8: We're going to deal with him, but that doesn't mean
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Speaker 8: that you're uncritical about it.
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Speaker 5: He scarce out of me now.
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Speaker 2: Albanezi today again said no, it's not going to get
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Speaker 2: rid of Rudd, even though Trump's daughter in law, the
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Speaker 2: head of the Republicans suggested that we should, and even
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Speaker 2: Trump himself earlier this year warned that Rudd might just
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Speaker 2: have to go.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I don't know. He won't be there long
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Speaker 9: if that's the case. I don't know much about him.
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Speaker 9: I heard he was a little bit nasty. I hear
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Speaker 9: he's not the Bright's bulb. But I don't know much
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Speaker 9: about him. But if he's at all hostile, he will.
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Speaker 5: Not be there long.
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Speaker 2: Circumstance suggests that Rudd isn't now our best salesman in Washington.
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Speaker 2: Trump might not feel inclined to give him the time
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Speaker 2: of day or Australia a favor, knowing Rudder is a
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Speaker 2: Trump hater appointed by a Trump hater, But Albany is
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Speaker 2: he in fact might need Trump to like him enough
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Speaker 2: to do him that favor. Because what Albany is he
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Speaker 2: sent in Parliament today and supposedly welcoming Trump's win, is false.
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Speaker 8: The election of a new administration is a new opportunity
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Speaker 8: to emphasize once again all that Australia brings to the
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Speaker 8: table as an ally, as an economic partner, as a
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Speaker 8: stable democracy, as a leader in the region, and a
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Speaker 8: power in our own right.
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Speaker 5: We're a power in our own right.
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Speaker 2: In fact, we've now got just one submarine left that's
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Speaker 2: fit to defend us. We've got a shortage of soldiers.
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Speaker 2: Albanies has just abolished the program to build secure satellites
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Speaker 2: military communications.
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Speaker 5: We're under armed, and we actually spend less than the
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Speaker 5: NATO minimum of two percent of our GDP on defense.
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Speaker 2: And this is important because when Trump was the last president,
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Speaker 2: he wore NATO, the alliance with Europe, that the US
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Speaker 2: would not defend countries that couldn't be bothered defending themselves.
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Speaker 2: So what do you think is going to say, looking
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Speaker 2: at Australia's pitiful effort? What would he say looking at
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Speaker 2: rude mister Rudd. Let's say, with Kamalo Harris's deluded response
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Speaker 2: today to Trump's victory and the ridiculous claims by his
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Speaker 2: supporters that we now face a dictatorship.
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Speaker 10: I can't help but wonder if the American people have
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Speaker 10: given up on democracy or.
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Speaker 2: The media left is having a meltdown. Isn't it wait
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Speaker 2: till later when I show you will be Goldberg and others.
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Speaker 2: But joining me is a top lawyer who worked with
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump as his attorney general and wrote about it
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Speaker 2: and the terrific memoirs which are there. It is one
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Speaker 2: damn thing after another. Is William Barr, and he joined
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Speaker 2: me earlier.
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Speaker 5: William Barr, thank you so much for your time.
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Speaker 2: We've seen Kavala Harris worn before the election that Donald
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Speaker 2: Trump will be a dictator. Today in conceding, she said,
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Speaker 2: it seems so many Americans that they're now entering a
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Speaker 2: dark time. Oprah Winfrey at the last Harris campaign actually
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Speaker 2: has said, well, this might be the last chance that
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Speaker 2: anyone gets to vote in their lives. It's quite extraordinary.
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Speaker 2: What do you expect now to happen? What did you
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Speaker 2: make of that rhetoric? Well, I think it's preposterous. I
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Speaker 2: worked with him. I've had disagreements with him, but he's
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Speaker 2: not a fascist as they say. He's been president for
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Speaker 2: four years. I was attorney general for two of those years.
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Speaker 2: He acted within the law. He didn't go after people
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Speaker 2: or abuse the law to go after people. So it's preposterous.
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Speaker 11: And I think the reason we've heard so much about
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Speaker 11: it is because otherwise they have nothing to talk about.
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Speaker 11: They have a terrible record that they can't defend, people
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Speaker 11: don't like, and they have no specific ideas of how
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Speaker 11: to move forward. As I've repeatedly said, I think the
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Speaker 11: real threat to freedom and democracy is not from conservatism,
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Speaker 11: is from the progressive left that uses coercive power and
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Speaker 11: to press people to act the way they want him
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Speaker 11: to act and conform to what they think people should do.
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Speaker 2: It's a very damage campaign that the Democrats have launched,
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Speaker 2: not just to get a Kamla Harris's elected, but in
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Speaker 2: fact it damage America.
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Speaker 11: Well, yes, but it has poetic justice at the end,
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Speaker 11: because I think I think the big picture here is
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Speaker 11: that the decisive factor in American politics for the last
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Speaker 11: twenty or thirty years has been the sharpshifts of the
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Speaker 11: Democratic Party to the left and the ascendancy of progressivism
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Speaker 11: in the Democratic Party, and there has finally been a
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Speaker 11: strong reaction against it. They've been crushed in an election,
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Speaker 11: and the two institutions that are going to suffer from
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Speaker 11: this are the progressive Democrats and the corrupt mainstream media
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Speaker 11: that are essentially political actors and have lost all credibility
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Speaker 11: as an Institution on.
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Speaker 2: The corruption of institutions. It seems to me, you know,
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Speaker 2: it's incredible that Donald Trump won after so many attempts
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Speaker 2: to destroying We've had the two assassination attempts, of course,
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Speaker 2: but there are also those four attempts by Democrat prosecutors
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Speaker 2: to get him jailed or disqualified or at least laughtock
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Speaker 2: convicted as a criminal so he would look like, you know,
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Speaker 2: it look terrible to vote for such a man and
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Speaker 2: all for you know, like trying to steal the last
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Speaker 2: selection for bookkeeping errors. I ask you for keeping classified
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Speaker 2: documents at home. I mean, they seen highly political prosecutions.
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Speaker 2: What should happen now to those four cases?
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Speaker 11: Under our law, you can't have these kinds of cases
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Speaker 11: brought against a sitting president or maintained against a sitting
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Speaker 11: president while as in office, because it interferes with his
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Speaker 11: ability to conduct the public business. These cases, the state cases,
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Speaker 11: I think, are completely insubstantial and as you said, political.
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Speaker 11: The federal cases have fallen apart. There have been a
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Speaker 11: series of court rulings that have essentially shredded them like
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Speaker 11: pieces of Swiss cheese. The chances of them prevailing in
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Speaker 11: these cases are minimal. And they're no longer really serious cases,
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Speaker 11: so what's the point of maintaining them. And I think
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Speaker 11: the Department of Justice will just drop the federal cases.
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Speaker 11: We'll see how the state prosecutors treat theirs, but at
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Speaker 11: the end of the day, they're not going to be
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Speaker 11: able to hurt Trump with these cases.
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Speaker 2: When Donald Trump first became president, he made a whole
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Speaker 2: lot of bad picture his first team. It was a
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Speaker 2: really disaster, particularly Chief of Staff officer. For a start.
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Speaker 2: It took him ages to get to good performers like
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Speaker 2: may I say, like you like Mike Pompeio.
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Speaker 5: I'm already worried.
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Speaker 2: I've got to be honest that he's saying that Robert
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Speaker 2: Kennedy Junior is going to get a job this time.
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Speaker 5: He seems a bit of a coup to me.
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Speaker 2: But what do you think his cabinet will look like?
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Speaker 2: Will it be an improvement on what he started with last.
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Speaker 11: I actually think he'll be able to attract some good people.
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Speaker 11: The names I'm you know, I'm hearing bandied about are
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Speaker 11: substantial people with good experience, and there are people interested
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Speaker 11: in going into most of the positions. The real thing
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Speaker 11: isn't so much who's holding those jobs, but the people
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Speaker 11: who he's listening to, and whether there are a lot
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Speaker 11: of sort of people in the peanut gallery, you know,
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Speaker 11: who talk in his ear and you know, the last
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Speaker 11: people to speak to him and maneuvering and so forth,
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Speaker 11: but they don't have any real knowledge or responsibility. And
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Speaker 11: you know that is more the phenomenon that people have
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Speaker 11: to keep their eye out for. I'm hoping that now
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Speaker 11: that he's vindicated himself in this election that and you know,
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Speaker 11: should go down in history as a major figure, he
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Speaker 11: will buckle.
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Speaker 1: Down and.
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Speaker 11: You don't run a serious administration.
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Speaker 2: I hope that includes getting Tucker Kawsen kicking him out
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Speaker 2: to the inner circle, because that guy is completely nuts
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Speaker 2: believing that he America is being punished with hurricanes for
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Speaker 2: abortion for instance. I mean, that guy is a menace.
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Speaker 2: You had battles with Donald Trump as his attorney general.
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Speaker 2: You quit when refuse to believe you when you said
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Speaker 2: to him he was wasn't beaten.
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Speaker 5: By electoral fraud last time.
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Speaker 2: What's your advice with people of thinking of serving his
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Speaker 2: administration this time around?
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Speaker 11: Look, don't go and take a job in government if
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Speaker 11: you if you need, if you basically need to make
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Speaker 11: a living afterwards, and you're really looking ahead to say,
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Speaker 11: you know, how is this job going to help me
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Speaker 11: in the future. You have to you have to be
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Speaker 11: willing to go into retirement after your job, essentially, because
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Speaker 11: otherwise you'll make decisions based on you know that self
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Speaker 11: interest and to protect yourself or to you know, please
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Speaker 11: the boss or.
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Speaker 5: What have you.
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Speaker 11: And you just have to on matters of principle, be
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Speaker 11: willing to stay on your ground and take the hit
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Speaker 11: if the president, if you think he's making a mistake
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Speaker 11: in the policy terms, he's entitled to make mistakes. He's
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Speaker 11: entitled to set policy, even policies as people don't agree with.
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Speaker 11: And you know, you have to be used to working
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Speaker 11: for and most in government, this happens frequently. Some mean
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Speaker 11: you don't necessarily agree with on the substance of the policy.
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Speaker 11: I actually agreed with most of his policies. What you
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Speaker 11: have to watch for is whether you're asked to do
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Speaker 11: cut corners and do things that are improper. And I
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Speaker 11: didn't see that problem until I won't even say until
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Speaker 11: the problem was after the election. I didn't think that
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Speaker 11: had been stolen by fraud, and I wasn't going to
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Speaker 11: go down that track and he didn't fire me. Ultimately,
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Speaker 11: I left because I thought the game was over and
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Speaker 11: that was that he lost the election, and I left
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Speaker 11: before January sixth. But you know this idea that you
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Speaker 11: know he's constantly trying to ask people to do things
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Speaker 11: that are improper. I didn't see that.
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Speaker 3: Well.
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Speaker 2: I must say your book on all that, particularly on
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Speaker 2: your last days of Trump, fascinating reading. But in fact,
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Speaker 2: the whole memoir, one damn thing after another, I highly recommend.
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Speaker 2: I've recommended before. William Barth, thank you so much, indeed
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Speaker 2: for coming on the show.
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Speaker 5: I appreciate it.
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Speaker 11: Thank you, Andrew.
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Speaker 2: You've probably noticed the world's richest man, Elon Musk, campaigning
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Speaker 2: for Trump and in fact getting a long shout out
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Speaker 2: from Trump last night at the victory celebration, and both
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Speaker 2: were very happy. No wonder joining me from New York,
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Speaker 2: where has been covering the election, is going to his
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Speaker 2: business editor, Greenwood Ross. The two men didn't just win
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Speaker 2: an election last night, They just won a fortune.
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Speaker 5: Explain that.
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Speaker 12: They won, both of them an absolute fortune because as
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Speaker 12: a result of Donald Trump becoming the next president of
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Speaker 12: the United States, the stock market here boomed, but in
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Speaker 12: particular The biggest winner of all of those was Tesla
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Speaker 12: because quite clearly, people think that as America goes to
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Speaker 12: more electric vehicles in the future, as Donald Trump brings
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Speaker 12: more manufacturing back to America, that really that those types
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Speaker 12: of companies will boom. So the shares in Elon Musk's Tesla,
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Speaker 12: he's the biggest shareholder, basically went through the roof up
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Speaker 12: by fourteen and a half percent, and as a result,
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Speaker 12: his wealth went up by fifteen point four billion dollars in.
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Speaker 3: One single dart.
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Speaker 12: Think about that, fifteen point four billion in one single day.
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Speaker 12: Now he's the richest man in the world, there's no doubt.
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Speaker 12: But it wasn't just him. It was Donald Trump as well.
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Speaker 12: Donald Trump, as people will know, created his own when
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Speaker 12: he got banned from Twitter before Elon Musk again arrives,
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Speaker 12: I went and bought it for forty billion dollars and
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Speaker 12: reinstated Donald Trump. Well, Donald Trump went out and created
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Speaker 12: his own social media site called truth Social Now that
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Speaker 12: lives in a company which is listed on the New
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Speaker 12: York Stock exchangel NASDAK, which is called Trump Media and Technology.
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Speaker 6: Well.
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Speaker 12: Shares NAT went up today rather significantly, which increased Donald
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Speaker 12: Trump's wealth by well fairly megha compared with Elon Musk,
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Speaker 12: but it was up by around one hundred and eighty
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Speaker 12: million dollars. Today Donald Trump worth about six billion dollars,
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Speaker 12: and a big wedge of that is in this truth
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Speaker 12: rather in this truth Social website.
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Speaker 3: I've got a feeling here, you know, because.
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Speaker 12: There's been suggestions that maybe Elon Musk wants to refloat
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Speaker 12: Twitter as it was or x as it is now
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Speaker 12: back onto the Stock Exchange. My goot feel is it
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Speaker 12: would be a fairly neat fit if you put truth
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Speaker 12: Social from Trump back into that they refloated them both
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Speaker 12: on the Stock Exchange.
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Speaker 3: At the same time.
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Speaker 12: Who knew that actually being the president could make you
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Speaker 12: a whole bunch of money at the same time.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm a bit dirty on you. Rush Skype
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Speaker 2: has you good money to give business tips, and he
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Speaker 2: didn't tell me about this one.
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Speaker 5: I could have made a mosa.
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Speaker 13: My goodness me So you Andrew, seriously, I must I
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Speaker 13: must ross I played earlier Kamala Harris's strange concession concession
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Speaker 13: speech Today, she seemed in complete denial of how completely
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Speaker 13: her party had failed and how completely her message had flopped.
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Speaker 5: His a little bit more of it.
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Speaker 4: While I conceive this election, I do not concede the
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Speaker 4: fate that fueled this campaign.
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Speaker 5: What did you make of a speech? Ross?
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Speaker 12: Yeah, look, I must admit that it gotten to me
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Speaker 12: that it just showed how far Kamala Harris was out
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Speaker 12: of touch. She might have been in touch with the
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Speaker 12: elite of the Democrat Party. You know that really in
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Speaker 12: many ways our pandering too. But as we've been speaking
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Speaker 12: to people leaving here in New York, those people were
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Speaker 12: very conscious of the cost of living.
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Speaker 3: They're very conscious also.
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Speaker 12: To be honest, because they're Americans for goodness sakes, as
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Speaker 12: Australians are aspirational. Trump was preaching something which was aspirational
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Speaker 12: to them. In other words, get out there and work,
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Speaker 12: Get out there.
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Speaker 3: And set up businesses and I will back you.
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Speaker 12: That's what you want to hear from your government, not
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Speaker 12: we will give you a handout from our morsels that
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Speaker 12: we have got.
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Speaker 3: And really this is again a.
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Speaker 12: Lesson for politicians in Australia that they've got to recognize
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Speaker 12: it rather than trying to pretend that the taxpayers money
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Speaker 12: is the government's money, your money that you're able to
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Speaker 12: doll out and hand out.
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Speaker 3: Look, how good we are.
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Speaker 12: It's actually a situation and give people the opportunity to
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Speaker 12: make more money themselves.
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Speaker 3: And that's where Australia gets a bit stuck as.
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Speaker 12: Compared with the United States, because if Donald Trump is
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Speaker 12: able to bring down personal tax rates, is able to
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Speaker 12: bring down corporate tax rates, and Australia is still sitting
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Speaker 12: with a very high taxing country, well then really Australia
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Speaker 12: loses competitiveness and he loses investment.
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Speaker 3: Over the laws long term.
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Speaker 12: And that really is a wake up call to all
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Speaker 12: political parties in Australia.
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Speaker 3: The change has got to happen. I think.
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Speaker 2: Well said rough Screen would thank you so much for
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Speaker 2: your coverage this week after the break shocking details about
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Speaker 2: a palestinin the terrorist links. We've got a tourist visa
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Speaker 2: to come here in just four days after asking for
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Speaker 2: one and without a check. You won't believe how quickly
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Speaker 2: the Albanezi government gave a tourist visa to a palestin
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Speaker 2: in with terrorist links. Between the High Court and this government,
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Speaker 2: you'd wonder who's keeping us safe. The High Court last
21:38
Speaker 2: year told the government to free illegal immigrants that it couldn't.
21:41
Speaker 5: Send back home. Yesterday it said.
21:43
Speaker 2: And what's more, you don't have the power to make
21:45
Speaker 2: them wear ankle bracelets and observe a curfew.
21:48
Speaker 5: So stop it.
21:50
Speaker 2: We're talking about people, including murderers and rapists, about a
21:54
Speaker 2: group that includes sixty five people who have since being
21:57
Speaker 2: released have allegedly committed more crimes. So the governments now
22:01
Speaker 2: at least rushed through a fix to this latest mess.
22:04
Speaker 2: But it all proves our best safety depends on not
22:07
Speaker 2: letting insecurity risks in the first place.
22:11
Speaker 5: So let me tell you something astonishing. As we've reported before,
22:16
Speaker 5: this government last.
22:17
Speaker 2: Year gave nearly three thousand tourists visas to Palaestins from Gaza,
22:20
Speaker 2: which has been run by the hamas Terist group. Half
22:23
Speaker 2: of them are ready here now. The Federal Court has
22:25
Speaker 2: now published documents showing how fast and slap dash that
22:29
Speaker 2: process could be. These documents about one of the lucky
22:33
Speaker 2: people who got a tourist visa just a month after
22:36
Speaker 2: hamas terists slaughtered twelve hundred Jews. I mentioned this guy before,
22:40
Speaker 2: has the Imad, His wife and daughter also got visas
22:43
Speaker 2: already in Sydney. Hosy himself stayed back in Egypt for
22:47
Speaker 2: some reason, but was then told your visa has now
22:50
Speaker 2: been canceled.
22:50
Speaker 5: Can't come.
22:52
Speaker 2: ASIO has found you have links to both Hamas and
22:55
Speaker 2: the Palestine Islamic Jihad terrorist groups. Is now found in
22:59
Speaker 2: this band. But check this timetable revealed by the Federal Court.
23:05
Speaker 2: Hosny Immad, now linked to two terrorist groups, applied for
23:09
Speaker 2: a visa on November nin last year. Just four days
23:13
Speaker 2: later November thirteen. He got it four days when he's
23:17
Speaker 2: in a terrorist territory run by terrorists. What's more, as
23:20
Speaker 2: the court says, his application was not referred to ASIO
23:24
Speaker 2: for assessment. Aje says Imad only came to his attention
23:28
Speaker 2: a month later, but he wasn't referred to it for
23:30
Speaker 2: a complex assessment for another two months. That was in February,
23:35
Speaker 2: and that's when they realized it was a security risk
23:37
Speaker 2: likely to promote or facilitate acts of politically motivated violence. Here,
23:43
Speaker 2: what if it comes straight away? And how we now
23:46
Speaker 2: supposed to throw out his wife and daughters? Joining me
23:51
Speaker 2: is National's front bench of Barnaby Joyce, the former Deputy
23:54
Speaker 2: Prime Minister. Barnaby Joyce, good to see you. What does
23:58
Speaker 2: this case tell you? Give a tourist visa in four
24:02
Speaker 2: days to a Palestinian and war torn gaza run by terrorists,
24:07
Speaker 2: a guy that we're now told that links to two
24:10
Speaker 2: terrorist groups and was likely to promote or facilitate acts
24:13
Speaker 2: of politically motivated violence.
24:17
Speaker 14: Well, boat boy, do we all feel safe to you?
24:20
Speaker 14: They've got control of the show, isn't it.
24:22
Speaker 15: There's nothing to worry about here or the wing monkeys
24:24
Speaker 15: fed Everything under control. Quite obviously, there's been a sort
24:30
Speaker 15: of dissembly of the proper process that is there to
24:35
Speaker 15: keep the Australian people safe and all the affirmations we
24:40
Speaker 15: get in the chamber, it's all under control. Nothing to
24:42
Speaker 15: worry about, you know, there's proper protections on the Australian
24:46
Speaker 15: people from the vagaras, vagaries of violent people coming into
24:51
Speaker 15: our nation from terrorist visas.
24:53
Speaker 14: It admitted power and swindle factories.
24:55
Speaker 15: Work, inflation has beaten, you know, it's become a a mythical.
25:00
Speaker 14: Palace of rubbish.
25:02
Speaker 15: It's just like, you know, this rubbish misinformation bill, the
25:05
Speaker 15: biggest misinformation is happening in the chamber.
25:10
Speaker 5: Honestly, I just don't get it.
25:12
Speaker 2: It's like we'll sort it out later, we'll sort the
25:14
Speaker 2: details out later. We'll just scatter three thousand visas and
25:18
Speaker 2: then you know, we'll pick them up sooner or later.
25:21
Speaker 5: I don't know. It's just honestly, I'm flabbergast him. Kevin Rudd.
25:27
Speaker 5: Kevin Rudd. Look, it was always a risk appointing him.
25:31
Speaker 2: He had these savage, the anti Trump things on social media,
25:37
Speaker 2: it said before he was an ambassador. I know that,
25:39
Speaker 2: but he kept them on his website is social media
25:42
Speaker 2: until a couple of days ago, which suggested to me
25:46
Speaker 2: two things.
25:47
Speaker 5: One he had no clue.
25:49
Speaker 2: That Donald Trump would actually win the election, or he
25:51
Speaker 2: didn't care, but one way or the other. I mean
25:54
Speaker 2: that seems to me not something that you would want
25:58
Speaker 2: or expect from an ambassador going to be asking Donald
26:01
Speaker 2: Trump for favors.
26:04
Speaker 14: It's amazing, is it, Andrew?
26:05
Speaker 15: Like the one job of the ambassador is to have
26:08
Speaker 15: the heartbeat of the nation they're in.
26:09
Speaker 5: You know, what's going on?
26:11
Speaker 3: What's going on?
26:13
Speaker 14: Come on, she's got it, She's got in the bag.
26:16
Speaker 14: Then all of a sudden, like maybe.
26:18
Speaker 3: Not then then go oh but open this? Oh no,
26:27
Speaker 3: oh what did I write? What I write?
26:30
Speaker 5: Yeah?
26:30
Speaker 14: I mean, if you can't if you can't pick.
26:34
Speaker 15: Who the next president is going to be, if you
26:35
Speaker 15: don't have a rough idea to maybe do some vetting
26:39
Speaker 15: on what you might have said.
26:40
Speaker 14: I'm kind of losing confidence.
26:42
Speaker 15: But putting all that aside, the issue really now comes
26:45
Speaker 15: down to do you have the capacity, the ernest capacity
26:49
Speaker 15: to do a self evaluation and say, do I think
26:54
Speaker 15: this job is going to.
26:54
Speaker 14: Work on behalf of Australia.
26:56
Speaker 15: If the person who is the absolute pinnacle of the
27:01
Speaker 15: contact doesn't like me, now look if he believes that
27:08
Speaker 15: it just is untenable, then as a former prime minister,
27:12
Speaker 15: and I hope a patriot to our nation, which I'm
27:14
Speaker 15: sure he is, then he should do the right thing
27:16
Speaker 15: and say, look, just quietly, I think I'll think I'll pop.
27:19
Speaker 14: Back home to Australia and if you can get me over.
27:21
Speaker 15: To France because I think Macron, now there's a guy
27:24
Speaker 15: I like Macron, I'll slip me in there. Let me
27:27
Speaker 15: deal deal with Macron. But you know, Trump's had a
27:32
Speaker 15: bit to say about mister Rudden. Ed doesn't sound good?
27:37
Speaker 5: Does it look?
27:39
Speaker 2: And I like you saying, oh, look, I've to live
27:42
Speaker 2: them now in case people think mistake my views for
27:44
Speaker 2: that of the Albanizer government. Anthony albanezis slagged offer Donald
27:49
Speaker 2: Trump Penny Wilder, I've done the same of me. Who
27:53
Speaker 2: in that government doesn't hasn't a savage Donald Trump, I
27:56
Speaker 2: think he does only too well represent their views of that.
28:00
Speaker 15: You have the problem, Andrew, You know the problem is
28:02
Speaker 15: the problem is apparently Donald Trump and seventy million other people.
28:07
Speaker 14: From the United States of America.
28:08
Speaker 15: You know, seventy million rates Apparently seventy million big it's
28:12
Speaker 15: seventy million crazy people.
28:13
Speaker 14: Because he won.
28:14
Speaker 15: He's not only won the Congress, he's won the Senate,
28:17
Speaker 15: he's won the presidency, he's won the primary votes. He
28:22
Speaker 15: absolutely blits the field. And these didn't happen by accident.
28:28
Speaker 15: It happened because they wanted him. It's a democracy. They
28:30
Speaker 15: voted him in. And you know, all these people, you
28:34
Speaker 15: think they'll be subtle enough or wise enough to realize
28:38
Speaker 15: that the things they said in the past will be
28:41
Speaker 15: used against them in the future, especially against our major
28:44
Speaker 15: defense ally, and something that underpins the capacity for us
28:50
Speaker 15: to defend our own nation, for us to have the
28:52
Speaker 15: liberty and freedoms we do, is very much tied to
28:55
Speaker 15: the United States of America. Where the people like to
28:57
Speaker 15: accept that or not. Because we've done a very poor
29:01
Speaker 15: job of becoming as powerful as possible, as quickly as possible,
29:04
Speaker 15: so that we can look after ourselves.
29:05
Speaker 14: We've been very we have not done a good job
29:08
Speaker 14: of that.
29:09
Speaker 15: So you better get along with mister Trump, and you
29:11
Speaker 15: better get along with their Congress and their and their
29:14
Speaker 15: Senate and the American people in general.
29:17
Speaker 14: Don't slag them off. That would be a very start.
29:20
Speaker 2: Well, I think there's actually two issues here, isn't The
29:23
Speaker 2: one is not just the stupidity of expressing such intemperate
29:28
Speaker 2: views when you're about a partner that you will need.
29:31
Speaker 2: But the other is that holding those views in the
29:33
Speaker 2: first place. I mean, it's a fundamental misreading of Trump.
29:36
Speaker 2: And I think they're just going with the you know,
29:38
Speaker 2: the smug, liftish vibe that's just going to smack in
29:41
Speaker 2: the face by the results. Listen, what difference do you
29:44
Speaker 2: think that Donald Trump's win will make to Australia. Now,
29:49
Speaker 2: for instance, he has said he's pulling out of the
29:51
Speaker 2: Paris Agreement, I'm climate change, to cut emissions. But from
29:55
Speaker 2: Penny one issue was today again saying well that changes
29:59
Speaker 2: not thing, you know, because we A we've got a
30:02
Speaker 2: subclaimate change, and B we've got to join in with
30:05
Speaker 2: major economies in adjusting to a net zero economy issues earlier.
30:10
Speaker 16: Now there's two imperatives. There's climent and trying to make
30:14
Speaker 16: sure we lessen the consequences of climate change now which
30:19
Speaker 16: were already seeing, but also for our children and our grandchildren.
30:22
Speaker 16: But there's also an economic imperative. We know that we
30:25
Speaker 16: want an economy that can thrive not just in this
30:28
Speaker 16: this world, but in a world which is moving to
30:31
Speaker 16: net zero. And so many major economies are doing that.
30:37
Speaker 2: You know, so many major ectomy leading world's three biggest
30:41
Speaker 2: economies are China, India, and America in terms of emissions.
30:46
Speaker 2: They're the three biggest in terms of emissions, China far
30:49
Speaker 2: and away the biggest. China has actually got license to
30:53
Speaker 2: increases emissions, so does India because it's supposedly developing countries.
30:58
Speaker 2: America is walking away. Which economies are we supposed to
31:01
Speaker 2: be encouraging or joining?
31:06
Speaker 5: Or New Zealand in New Zealand, New Zealand.
31:09
Speaker 15: The thing is, and see, you know that if we
31:14
Speaker 15: got on board with nuclear now, we just might catch
31:16
Speaker 15: up to Ghana and Bangladesh.
31:18
Speaker 14: And that's not a joke, that's serious. We have Kenya, Kanda, South.
31:23
Speaker 15: Africa's already got nuclear power, Egypt, United Emirates, Ghana. I mean,
31:28
Speaker 15: all these countries are going into nuclear power in Africa,
31:32
Speaker 15: in the like throughout Southeast Asia, Indonesia, Singapore, Laos, Vietnam,
31:38
Speaker 15: Me Andmhi and of course India, China, Korea, Japan already
31:44
Speaker 15: have it. And here's Penny Wong saying, because he also
31:48
Speaker 15: didn't get the other part that in her path, we're
31:52
Speaker 15: apparently going to do it with intermittent power, with swindle
31:55
Speaker 15: factories and with solar panels. And even though nowhere else
31:59
Speaker 15: in the world has done this, even when we're completely
32:01
Speaker 15: in cloud cuckoo land here, I mean, this is really
32:04
Speaker 15: feeding the wing monkeys, putting on the green goggles and
32:07
Speaker 15: just diving.
32:08
Speaker 5: Into the swamp.
32:09
Speaker 15: This is an amazing statement of ignorance by the people
32:14
Speaker 15: who are trying to lead our nation. And what they're
32:17
Speaker 15: actually going to do when they're so sort of oblivious
32:21
Speaker 15: that the world is changing, is they will drive our
32:24
Speaker 15: economy into the ground and you will be poorer if
32:28
Speaker 15: their plan work. Ladies and gentlemen, Seamen's crops, Panasonic, Boeing,
32:34
Speaker 15: Mitsubishi Hyu and die Skoda, Rolls Royce that would be
32:39
Speaker 15: all coming to Australia to reside in the benevolent glow
32:43
Speaker 15: of Chris Bowen's magnificence, his magnificent power policy. But no
32:48
Speaker 15: one is coming here, no one. They're all leaving, bye
32:51
Speaker 15: bye bye, bye bye bye. Manufacturing is all going. And
32:55
Speaker 15: then we have Penny Wong who goes through and earnestly,
32:58
Speaker 15: with that earnest look and of face, says no, we're
33:01
Speaker 15: going to continue on this suicide path because we won't
33:05
Speaker 15: stop till every light is unaffordable and every manufacturer has gone.
33:13
Speaker 2: And there's America saying under an incoming you president saying
33:17
Speaker 2: it's all going to cost too much. I'm scrapping the
33:19
Speaker 2: whole lot. But we're saying what, No, No, the world
33:22
Speaker 2: doesn't changed, We keep going.
33:23
Speaker 5: I don't get it. Bunnaby Joyce, thank you so much
33:25
Speaker 5: for your.
33:25
Speaker 14: Time, boys a pleasure and coping.
33:29
Speaker 2: With Trump's win has turned to abusing voters in an
33:33
Speaker 2: epic meltdown. America's media left is having a tantrum painted
33:42
Speaker 2: Trump is a racist, fascist threat to democracy.
33:46
Speaker 5: American voters still made him president again.
33:48
Speaker 2: You think the media might then admit it miss read
33:51
Speaker 2: Trump and his voters promised to do better. Oh and
33:55
Speaker 2: you know, the voice left his hang out did start
33:57
Speaker 2: promisingly today with some countries.
34:01
Speaker 10: Tens of millions of Americans, our friends, our neighbors, our
34:05
Speaker 10: family members voted for Donald Trump.
34:07
Speaker 3: We disagree with him, I know we all do. At
34:09
Speaker 3: this table.
34:09
Speaker 10: We need to bring down the temperature, the name calling,
34:12
Speaker 10: the demonizing.
34:15
Speaker 2: And then it lasted barely a minute before they were again,
34:17
Speaker 2: how are you to Trump and the supposedly uneducated people
34:21
Speaker 2: who voted for him.
34:23
Speaker 14: People didn't come out. I don't know why. And it
34:25
Speaker 14: doesn't even matter. He's now the president. I'm still not
34:29
Speaker 14: going to say his name.
34:30
Speaker 10: It had nothing to do with policy. I think this
34:32
Speaker 10: was a referendum of cultural resentment in this country. What
34:37
Speaker 10: we did not have is white women, who voted about
34:40
Speaker 10: fifty two percent right for Donald Trump. Uneducated white women,
34:44
Speaker 10: is my understanding.
34:45
Speaker 2: ELSPEC come Titus slid whole races of voters. Just after
34:50
Speaker 2: accusing Trump of racism, the hypocrites.
34:54
Speaker 1: There were appeals to racism in this camp.
34:57
Speaker 5: We've got to be honest.
34:58
Speaker 1: Among Hispanic men, black men, there's a lot of misogyny.
35:02
Speaker 17: There's misogyny, but it's not just misogyny from white men.
35:07
Speaker 17: It's misogyny from Hispanic men. Right, it's misogyny from black men.
35:13
Speaker 17: Might be race issues with Hispanics. They don't want a
35:17
Speaker 17: black woman as president.
35:19
Speaker 2: Isaac John is John Henderrekert, president of the Center for
35:22
Speaker 2: American Progress and righted with the power Line blog. John Henderecher,
35:27
Speaker 2: Great to see you again. Look, this result has had
35:31
Speaker 2: so many really interesting subtakes, and one is that idea
35:38
Speaker 2: that the media actually controlled the result of an election.
35:42
Speaker 5: That is gone.
35:45
Speaker 18: It is completely gone. Andrew, and as you know, my
35:49
Speaker 18: colleagues and I had power Line played a role in
35:51
Speaker 18: this twenty years ago when we helped to expose the
35:55
Speaker 18: CBS news fraud, the huax they were trying to perpetrate
35:59
Speaker 18: against President George W.
36:01
Speaker 3: Bush.
36:02
Speaker 18: That was one of the early blows that were struck
36:05
Speaker 18: against the credibility of what was then called the mainstream media.
36:09
Speaker 18: There have been many blows since then, and basically that
36:13
Speaker 18: credibility has gone, and so outlooks like the New York Times,
36:17
Speaker 18: the Washington Post, CNN, and so forth. They play a
36:21
Speaker 18: role because they keep the Democratic Party's base riled up
36:26
Speaker 18: and motivated and so forth, but they don't convince anyone.
36:30
Speaker 18: Nobody thinks they have credibility or authority, and so their
36:35
Speaker 18: power to really influence any election, I think is at
36:39
Speaker 18: an end.
36:42
Speaker 5: It's interesting the reaction so far.
36:44
Speaker 2: I would have thought that when you had the media
36:48
Speaker 2: so cool, iss wrong, exert so much influence or try
36:53
Speaker 2: to and get a totally wrong result, that you would
36:57
Speaker 2: be reflecting being in prospective, thinking we've got to be
37:01
Speaker 2: back in the truth business. We've got to grow the
37:03
Speaker 2: world as it is. Instead, what I'm seeing in the
37:06
Speaker 2: angry reactions so far, not by everyone, but in certain
37:10
Speaker 2: sectors of the media is not that they're lashing out
37:14
Speaker 2: that the American people as being racist or sexist or stupid,
37:21
Speaker 2: rather than thinking we have to do better.
37:27
Speaker 18: Yeah, I think you're right, Andrew. I mean, I think
37:30
Speaker 18: that a lot of these media organizations burned those bridges
37:34
Speaker 18: a long time ago. They signed on to be organs
37:37
Speaker 18: of the left, organs of the Democratic Party, and frankly,
37:41
Speaker 18: it's pretty hard for them now to be introspective and
37:44
Speaker 18: to say, gosh, we went down the wrong path. We
37:47
Speaker 18: should start thinking about objectivity and fairness again. I just
37:52
Speaker 18: don't think they have it in them to even try.
37:54
Speaker 5: To do that.
37:57
Speaker 2: It's so interesting too, that the Democrats got this so wrong.
38:02
Speaker 2: I mean, I thought Trump really should have won. Ever More,
38:04
Speaker 2: I thought he didn't run a good campaign. The Democrats, though,
38:08
Speaker 2: ran a shocker of a campaign. How did they end
38:11
Speaker 2: up with a candidate like Kamala Harris who, in her
38:16
Speaker 2: first bid to become the presidential nominee for the Democrats
38:20
Speaker 2: didn't get a single vote, And she didn't even get
38:23
Speaker 2: a single vote this time that some party grandees managed
38:27
Speaker 2: to say, no, she's the one, and she ended up
38:31
Speaker 2: it was plainly incompetent, plainly unable to connect with the people,
38:36
Speaker 2: plainly without charm, plainly without any ideas apart from the
38:41
Speaker 2: ones she was running away from of the California left
38:45
Speaker 2: that she'd grown up with.
38:46
Speaker 5: I mean, how did that happen?
38:48
Speaker 2: And what are the Democrats now going to conclude about
38:52
Speaker 2: the process that led to that.
38:55
Speaker 18: Well, there's a story behind it, Andrew. It goes back
38:58
Speaker 18: to twenty twenty, the Prime Mary season. Joe Biden lost
39:03
Speaker 18: in New Hampshire. It looked like his candidacy was on
39:07
Speaker 18: life support. The next primary coming up with South Carolina
39:11
Speaker 18: and the most powerful Democrat in South Carolina as Congressman
39:15
Speaker 18: Jim Clyburn, who's a black representative, and he told Joe
39:20
Speaker 18: Biden that he would support Biden, but only if Biden
39:23
Speaker 18: promised to select a black woman as his vice presidential nominee.
39:29
Speaker 18: And they made that deal, and Clyburn did support Joe Biden.
39:34
Speaker 18: Joe Biden did win the South Carolina primary, and he
39:37
Speaker 18: went on to get the nomination and he had to
39:40
Speaker 18: fulfill his promise to Jim Clyburn. And the most plausible
39:44
Speaker 18: black woman he could find to put on the ticket
39:47
Speaker 18: was Kamala Harris. So even though she bombed out of
39:51
Speaker 18: the primaries and was gone before the Iowa caucuses, nevertheless
39:56
Speaker 18: she wound up as the vice presidential nominee. And then,
39:59
Speaker 18: of course Joe Biden was was utterly senile. We all
40:03
Speaker 18: knew it, we all saw it. The Democrats decided to
40:06
Speaker 18: try to just risk it, you know, to run Joe
40:08
Speaker 18: Biden out there again and hope he could get through
40:11
Speaker 18: the campaign. After the first debate, or the only debate
40:15
Speaker 18: with Donald Trump, it was obvious to everybody that there's
40:18
Speaker 18: no way in the world this guy could conduct a
40:20
Speaker 18: presidential campaign, and so the Democrats had to replace him.
40:24
Speaker 18: We still don't know how they did it, you know,
40:26
Speaker 18: Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, some group went to Joe Biden
40:30
Speaker 18: and said, Joe, you've got to stand down, and he
40:34
Speaker 18: agreed to do that. But they really didn't have any choice.
40:37
Speaker 18: This is like what three weeks or something before their convention,
40:41
Speaker 18: they're nominating convention. There was no time to have any
40:44
Speaker 18: kind of a process, and they pretty quickly realized that
40:47
Speaker 18: they didn't have any choice but to go with the
40:50
Speaker 18: vice president Kamala Harris. And you know, the rest is history.
40:57
Speaker 2: But isn't this again one of the big stories out
41:00
Speaker 2: of this campaign is this could be that should be
41:06
Speaker 2: never underestimate the ability of people to be stupid and
41:10
Speaker 2: not learn from mistakes. But this should be the death
41:14
Speaker 2: of the diversity inequity movement because Pa Kamla Harris, as
41:17
Speaker 2: you just said, was the affirmative action at a candidate
41:22
Speaker 2: for vice president with Joe Biden, and they couldn't even
41:27
Speaker 2: replace her even if they wanted to, even if they
41:29
Speaker 2: had time in the end, because it would look terrible
41:33
Speaker 2: getting rid of the vice president, shunning her as a
41:36
Speaker 2: black woman and picking someone else above her. And now
41:41
Speaker 2: look at the result, a total bomb. And in fact,
41:44
Speaker 2: you've had black voters increasing number of black voters walking
41:48
Speaker 2: away from her, and a heck of a lot of
41:50
Speaker 2: Latino voters walking away from her. It didn't work. The
41:54
Speaker 2: whole diversity thing didn't work. Will the Democrats learn that lesson?
42:00
Speaker 3: I don't know.
42:00
Speaker 18: Andrew Dei is very unpopular with the American people. You know,
42:04
Speaker 18: we've had affirmative action here for fifty years now. It
42:08
Speaker 18: has never been popular. Americans don't like race discrimination, they
42:13
Speaker 18: like people being judged based on merit. And it's kind
42:18
Speaker 18: of amazing to me that to this day the Democrats
42:21
Speaker 18: are so committed to this Dei agenda, and as you say,
42:26
Speaker 18: they drove that agenda right into the ditch in this election,
42:31
Speaker 18: and I honestly don't know whether they're going to be
42:33
Speaker 18: able to reevaluate and say, let's walk away from that,
42:37
Speaker 18: because it obviously didn't work, and it particularly didn't work
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Speaker 18: with minorities. Donald Trump's vote totals actually declined among white
42:46
Speaker 18: people compared to twenty twenty, but he did much better
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Speaker 18: with blacks, he did very well with Latinos, he did
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Speaker 18: well with Jews, he did better with Asians, and this
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Speaker 18: whole identity politics that the Democrats have committed themselves too.
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Speaker 18: Now for quite a few years, has really proved to
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Speaker 18: be a failure.
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Speaker 2: Johnhanderrec it is such a fascinating electure with so many
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Speaker 2: amazing and positive lessons to draw from it.
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Speaker 5: Thank you so much, indeed for your time. Great to
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Speaker 5: be with you, Andrew after the break. Yet another cultural
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Speaker 5: ban on climbing.
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Speaker 2: It's like the left is asking for a Trump star
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Speaker 2: revolt here as well. Maybe doesn't want to be wiped
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Speaker 2: out by a Trump star revolt here. It must take
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Speaker 2: seriously the anger at the new apartheit now. Earlier this
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Speaker 2: week we talked about the new South Wales Surf Life
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Speaker 2: Saving Club that had to pay four times for welcome
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Speaker 2: to country ceremonies five hundred dollars a pop before traditional
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Speaker 2: notement that use the beach for events. Now a new
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Speaker 2: insult in Victoria, where popular rock climbing sites are supposedly
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Speaker 2: being banned to rock art, we're told Mount Rapids, although
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Speaker 2: how much is there up there? Joinman's geologist Mark Hendricks,
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Speaker 2: who has been campaigning for the right to climb other
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Speaker 2: mountains banned for Aboriginal cultural reasons.
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Speaker 5: Mark, Great to see you. Now.
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Speaker 2: It's Mount Arapolis. The climbs there that are threatened should they.
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Speaker 1: Be Andrew absolutely not. Look, this is ridiculous.
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Speaker 7: The beating heart the rapides represent the beating heart of
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Speaker 7: rock climbing in Victoria, you know, combined with the closures
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Speaker 7: that have happened in the Grampians, is absolutely devastating for
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Speaker 7: the climbing community in Victoria, in Australia and internationally.
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Speaker 1: You know what Parks Victoria have.
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Speaker 7: Done now is basically every climber in the world will
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Speaker 7: just be crossing off Victoria as a climbing destination. They'll
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Speaker 7: be looking at other places in Australia and saying, well,
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Speaker 7: if I go there, I'm going to be made to
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Speaker 7: feel guilty about enjoying the natural world. They're going to
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Speaker 7: go somewhere else. The impacts on the local economy around
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Speaker 7: mounta Rapolis will be devastating. There's a small town there
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Speaker 7: called Nattimuck. A lot of climbers actually living Nadimuk and
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Speaker 7: they enjoy that beautiful climbing.
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Speaker 1: Community in that area.
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Speaker 7: If no one's going there for climbing, that community is
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Speaker 7: economically dead.
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Speaker 5: You know.
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Speaker 7: The park's Victoria's It's hard to say, you know what
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Speaker 7: the reasons are. You mentioned some of the rock art
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Speaker 7: and some of the Aboriginal heritage. The paintings out of
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Speaker 7: rapillies are so faint that you need specialized camera equipment
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Speaker 7: to see them. Parks Victoria talking about changing it into
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Speaker 7: a cultural tourist destination, so they're going to be taking
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Speaker 7: what bus loads of tourists to see rock art. You
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Speaker 7: can't see. The other Aboriginal heritage in the rapolles are
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Speaker 7: rock chips. So certain rocks at the base of some
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Speaker 7: of the climbing routes were used by Aboriginal people as
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Speaker 7: a source of stone, so these are quarry sites. So
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Speaker 7: all that's there are evidence of rock scatters, some rock chips.
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Speaker 7: It's probably the least impressive bit of a cultural heritage
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Speaker 7: we've got in the country. It's not nothing like what
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Speaker 7: we've got a kakadu or it airs rock. It's completely ridiculous.
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Speaker 7: It doesn't make any sense. Park's Victoria Andrew have not
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Speaker 7: even bothered to consult the main stakeholders. Have said nothing
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Speaker 7: and done absolutely nothing in terms of speaking with the
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Speaker 7: rock climbing community about the impacts of these bands.
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Speaker 1: It's crazy.
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Speaker 2: Understand, if you care about that rock painting, then stick
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Speaker 2: a frame around it. If you care about the chips,
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Speaker 2: pick him up, put him in a museum. Otherwise let
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Speaker 2: it go. I mean, how many places are we now
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Speaker 2: banned from climbing?
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Speaker 7: Well, We've we started with Airs Rock, We've got Mount Gillen,
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Speaker 7: We've got Mount Warning, We've got the Glasshouse mountains in
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Speaker 7: Southeast Queensland under threat. We've got the devastating climbing bands
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Speaker 7: in the Grampians and the Rapolis. It's just growing and
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Speaker 7: growing this list of places where people can't go. The
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Speaker 7: other strange thing in New South Wales, which is occurring recently,
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Speaker 7: is that this new apartheid is spreading to campgrounds. So
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Speaker 7: there are campgrounds in New South Wales now where parts
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Speaker 7: of those campgrounds were reserved for particularly absittal grows groups,
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Speaker 7: so they're segregating the community. It's it's an incredibly bad
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Speaker 7: policy and it's going to have devastating impacts to Australian
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Speaker 7: society if we keep going down.
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Speaker 1: This horrible route.
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Speaker 7: You know, we're going to want the new South Africa. Now,
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Speaker 7: this is this is just insane. Elon Musk you know
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Speaker 7: you've part of this.
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Speaker 2: Gingin falls in Kakadu. You've forgotten lake Are. There's a
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Speaker 2: move to ban human you know tourism on the lake
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Speaker 2: and sating and all that. It's quite extraordinary. It seems
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Speaker 2: to me that this is actually divisive. Not sure it
47:34
Speaker 2: helps many people.
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Speaker 1: It's incredibly divisive. Andrew.
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Speaker 7: You we came out of a very divisive twenty twenty
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Speaker 7: three when the government tried to push this voice down
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Speaker 7: our throats and the community said a firm no to that.
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Speaker 7: And if this was put to a referendum, you know,
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Speaker 7: these climbing bands, this this, you know that our access
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Speaker 7: to or in wonder in Australia will be based on
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Speaker 7: race Australia would.
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Speaker 1: Be a resounding no as well.
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Speaker 7: So I would love to say, see some of these
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Speaker 7: things actually decided by the people, rather than having woke
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Speaker 7: politicians and work public servants make these decisions for us.
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Speaker 1: Elon Musk was given the task. Hopefully we'll be given.
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Speaker 7: The task by Donald Trump to clean the swamp out
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Speaker 7: in Washington when he's finished there. Andrew, I hope he
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Speaker 7: comes down here and starts cleaning up the swamps that
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Speaker 7: are in Macquarie Street and Spring Street because we need
48:21
Speaker 7: to refresh.
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Speaker 1: Ourselves and get Thanks.
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Speaker 2: Andrew, I think you're spot on. A bit of democracy
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Speaker 2: would be great. Thank you so much for your time.
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Speaker 2: That's it from me, Sherry Maxon up next good night,