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Trump's Use of Insurrection and the Left's Use of Peaceful Protests · The Wes Carroll Morning Show

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Speaker 1: The news, opinions, commentary, and interviews you need to start
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Speaker 1: your day. You're listening to The West Carrol Morning Show.
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Speaker 2: Wednesday morning, eleventh day of June. I'm Wes, thanks for
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Speaker 2: joining me. Powering on through this week. A lot going
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Speaker 2: on in the world. I know we've just gone through
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Speaker 2: all of the Trump and Elon stuff. We're dealing with
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Speaker 2: another what feels like potential for another long summer of
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Speaker 2: folks protesting and burning things down and fighting with authorities.
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Speaker 2: We've been down this road before. We've gone down this
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Speaker 2: path a number of times. It is sad and unfortunate.
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Speaker 2: We know what has happened now in California. We know
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Speaker 2: that the President has gotten involved. We know that once
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Speaker 2: the National Guard gets involved, that's when all of a sudden,
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Speaker 2: the police there in LA and some of the other
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Speaker 2: cities around California, they're able to actually do their jobs,
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Speaker 2: ice able to do their jobs, i SA able to
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Speaker 2: be there and get some sort of order in place
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Speaker 2: in that city. And we now see that this and
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Speaker 2: the verbiage that goes with it. Gavin Newsom, we talked
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Speaker 2: about this already this week, is someone who is trying
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Speaker 2: hard to make himself relevant for a presidential run soon,
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Speaker 2: and he is doing everything he can to try to
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Speaker 2: establish that. He has basically dared Trump to arrest him.
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Speaker 2: He wants that. I don't think there's any he wants
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Speaker 2: to seem tough or actually, you know, get arrested. I
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Speaker 2: don't think that any of the Republicans should even remotely
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Speaker 2: discuss it, consider it or anything. But that's what's happening.
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Speaker 2: We have a mayor in LA, we have a governor
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Speaker 2: in California that have shown repeated incompetence when it comes
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Speaker 2: to major things. Guys, we have significant sporting events, including
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Speaker 2: the Olympics coming soon. This is not a time for
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Speaker 2: any major city in America, especially not La, World Cup
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Speaker 2: and other things. They don't have time for this. In
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Speaker 2: case you forgot, they're still trying to rebuild and recover
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Speaker 2: from fires that took place because water was being redirected
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Speaker 2: to other parts of the state and not to where
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Speaker 2: the folks in LA would have access to them to
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Speaker 2: fight those fires. Horrible tragedy that was all already something
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Speaker 2: that the people there were trying to recover from. So
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Speaker 2: then ICE goes out trying to do their jobs in California,
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Speaker 2: and you say, well, you know, we're a sanctuary city,
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Speaker 2: we're a sanctuary state, We're a sanctuary whatever we have,
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Speaker 2: the rules don't apply to us. We don't have the
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Speaker 2: same rules as the rest of the country. That's an
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Speaker 2: interesting take that the first time a Democrat decided that
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Speaker 2: their state was not part of the rest of the country.
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Speaker 2: But I mean, it's not that he's saying it's not
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Speaker 2: part of it. He's just saying, we have our own rules.
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Speaker 2: I'm all about you know, states having you know, their
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Speaker 2: own governments. But when you have people American citizens that
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Speaker 2: are in a state and not being allowed to have
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Speaker 2: law enforcement do their jobs in that state, at some point, yes,
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Speaker 2: you're going to attract the attention of the federal government.
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Speaker 2: And that's what has taken place. So California Los Angeles
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Speaker 2: too good for the rest of the country because they're
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Speaker 2: not going to let anybody come in. Ice is not
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Speaker 2: going to be able to do their jobs, and even
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Speaker 2: at threat of violence, even at actual violence. And so
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Speaker 2: a few things have taken place here. And I'm not
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Speaker 2: going to directly compare this to January sixth, although it's
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Speaker 2: interesting that the president has started throwing words around like insurrection,
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Speaker 2: he's basically saying, look, it's an insurrection if the people
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Speaker 2: there are not allowing the law enforcement to do their jobs,
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Speaker 2: if they're not allowing federal law enforcement to do their jobs.
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Speaker 2: And when you start talking about ice, you start talking
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Speaker 2: about bringing in the National Guard, California National Guard, which
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Speaker 2: of course the governor's saying, but this is my job
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Speaker 2: to have them. Yeah, but you're not using them. And
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Speaker 2: we're hearing this conversation about well, most of them are
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Speaker 2: peaceful demonstrators. I can't tell you what the stats are.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I've seen images of peaceful people, but
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Speaker 2: I've also seen horrific images of people burning things, spending
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Speaker 2: their time just enjoying the burning of a car, as
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Speaker 2: someone put it, so apparently that's now an American right.
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Speaker 2: It's sad. It's sad that, you know, people around the
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Speaker 2: world might look at America and say, wow, this is
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Speaker 2: a country where people just enjoy watching a car burn
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Speaker 2: in the street. I don't know what country we've become
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Speaker 2: if that's a thing. I mean, typically that's reserved for
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Speaker 2: you know, like the Eagles winning a Super Bowl. That's
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Speaker 2: the kind of thing that you know, certain places do
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Speaker 2: that they go oh my gosh, the Lakers win a championship,
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Speaker 2: let's go set couches on fire. So I honestly, that's
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Speaker 2: reason enough to want those two teams to win. But
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Speaker 2: I digress. That's another thing all together. So I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I don't know how many people are peacefully protesting. I
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Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know how many are actually I
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Speaker 2: know that they're rioters. I know that they are looters.
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Speaker 2: I know that we have people setting cars on fire
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Speaker 2: and throwing things at authority. That's what's been happening, and
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Speaker 2: that's the reason that you have to step in. But
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Speaker 2: let's play this little game. Let's play this narrative, and
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Speaker 2: let's say, well, most of them are peaceful demonstrators. Most
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Speaker 2: of them have no ill will towards the federal government.
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Speaker 2: Most of them are just there trying to stand up
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Speaker 2: for either their specific rights or the rights that they
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Speaker 2: say that non citizens have or should have, even if
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Speaker 2: they're dangerous criminals. And sure, some of the people that
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Speaker 2: have been deported are not dangerous criminals, but they're illegals
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Speaker 2: in that they were in the process of being deported. Anyway,
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Speaker 2: We've heard this over and over again. So okay, let's
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Speaker 2: go back to January sixth. For a minute, and again
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Speaker 2: I'm not making a direct comparison. I just want to
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Speaker 2: talk about the fact that there were people who went
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Speaker 2: into the Capitol that were in fact peaceful demonstrators. They
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Speaker 2: did nothing other than walk around the capitol. There were
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Speaker 2: actual security personnel inviting them in, come on in, please
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Speaker 2: don't break anything. One guy who sat at the desk
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Speaker 2: of Nancy Pelosi and put his feet on the desk
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Speaker 2: and wanted a photo, a security offer to take the
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Speaker 2: photo for him if he would then leave the office.
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Speaker 2: I'll take the photo for you if you'll just step out,
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Speaker 2: don't break anything. So it wasn't a you know, you
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Speaker 2: got to get out, get out of here, We're going
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Speaker 2: to push you out the door, We're going to fight you,
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Speaker 2: or whatever. It was just come on in, just come
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Speaker 2: on in. You guys are being peaceful. And there were conversations,
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Speaker 2: videos of conversations of peaceful protesters and a very small
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Speaker 2: group of people, a very small group of people that
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Speaker 2: you could even kind of say these people are here
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Speaker 2: for some sort of an insurrection if you want to
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Speaker 2: make that case, and you want to say that Donald
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Speaker 2: Trump didn't say enough to tell them not to do
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Speaker 2: it to make him part of the quote unquote insurrection. Right,
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Speaker 2: So if you got people setting things on fire in California,
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Speaker 2: in La a city that, let's be honest, doesn't need
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Speaker 2: any more fire, doesn't need any more strife. They're still
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Speaker 2: trying to recover. This is a thing that Democrats are
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Speaker 2: really good at. You come out of COVID and you say,
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Speaker 2: we just need help. We're all struggling. People lost their jobs.
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Speaker 2: People need help. There were things that were done intentionally
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Speaker 2: to squash economies around the country so that you could
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Speaker 2: say that Trump wasn't doing a good job. People were
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Speaker 2: losing their jobs, businesses were closed. They weren't doing enough,
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Speaker 2: he says, keep certain people from certain countries out. He's
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Speaker 2: being racist. So which is it? Is he not doing
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Speaker 2: enough or is he doing too much? Is it just racist?
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Speaker 2: By the way, he was right about where it came from. Anyway,
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Speaker 2: So we've played this game of we're not gonna help
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Speaker 2: things get better before Biden becomes president and they say, well,
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Speaker 2: we're gonna do things that are gonna make inflation happen,
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Speaker 2: and we're gonna blame the businesses for it. When people
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Speaker 2: have to pay more for gas because we're not drilling
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Speaker 2: as much. Then we're gonna say the gas companies are greedy,
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Speaker 2: those greedy gas companies, and they're like, we're still trying
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Speaker 2: to recover from COVID and now you're making us put
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Speaker 2: the prices up. What are we supposed to do, which,
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Speaker 2: of course leads to the price of everything going up
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Speaker 2: because almost everything ends up in a truck or some
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Speaker 2: sort of transport and it's taken from one part of
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Speaker 2: the country to the other, and that expense went up,
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Speaker 2: so logistics companies have to pay more. So yes, ultimately
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Speaker 2: that hits you right in the wallet, and it hits
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Speaker 2: the middle class the hardest. And they say, well, we
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Speaker 2: didn't raise taxes, you raise the cost of things. It
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Speaker 2: was an indirect way of that. And then you say, well,
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Speaker 2: we're going to do this Inflation Reduction Act bill, which
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Speaker 2: ultimately also contributed to inflation. So this is something that
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Speaker 2: we do. We don't make things better for people. California
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Speaker 2: is a great example of that. Are they doing things
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Speaker 2: to make things better in California right now? Do they
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Speaker 2: need to go through all of this again or can
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Speaker 2: they just have some law and order for crying out loud?
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Speaker 2: Is that too much to ask for some sort of
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Speaker 2: justice in California. I don't think it's absurd. I don't
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Speaker 2: think it's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of,
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Speaker 2: is to give the people of California some law and order,
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Speaker 2: give them an opportunity to you know, get back on
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Speaker 2: their feet. But instead we're going to play this. Well,
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Speaker 2: most of them are peaceful, some of them aren't, and
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Speaker 2: the ones that aren't, or setting cars on fire just
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Speaker 2: to watch things burn. It's the anarchist game. And many
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Speaker 2: of them are the typical same old people who like
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Speaker 2: to say, hey, we're against fascism, we're against government, we're
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Speaker 2: we're just protesting and peacefully and then you know, hey,
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Speaker 2: like this, I'm gonna throw it. And they're playing that game.
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Speaker 2: So if we're going to say that a very small
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Speaker 2: group of people went into the Capitol with ill intentions,
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Speaker 2: and we're going to say that because Donald Trump didn't
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Speaker 2: do enough, in their mind to try to stop it,
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Speaker 2: that made him part of the insurrection. So if we
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Speaker 2: have a small group of people just giving them the
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Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt, I think it's a much larger percentage.
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Speaker 2: But again I don't have the stats. But if you're
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Speaker 2: going to say that just a small percentage of them
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Speaker 2: are setting things on fire, and Gavin Newsom isn't doing
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Speaker 2: enough to stop it. Is he an insurrectionist? Is he
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Speaker 2: encourage that? Let's also play this game. Remember January sixth,
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Speaker 2: Nancy Pelosi refused, didn't want any extra assistance. They knew
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Speaker 2: that there was a possible threat to the Capitol, and
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Speaker 2: they did not want any help. They didn't want the
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Speaker 2: National Guard, they didn't want Trump to send anybody over there.
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Speaker 2: They didn't want any help. We don't want this, which,
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Speaker 2: of course, to me, says they were hoping that things
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Speaker 2: would burn. I mean that had to be the intention.
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Speaker 2: They wanted this insurrection story. They were already cooking that
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Speaker 2: sucker up. To me, to my opinion, that's what I
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Speaker 2: think they were doing. So now with an opportunity, and
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Speaker 2: then afterwards, of course, she says, I probably should have
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Speaker 2: done that. I'm the one who didn't take the help.
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Speaker 2: Maybe I should have taken the help. Maybe I should
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Speaker 2: have allowed some sort of assistance to come along and
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Speaker 2: help out. And she didn't do that. She refused it
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Speaker 2: and made things way worse, didn't it. So here's a
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Speaker 2: situation we go to back to California. You get back
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Speaker 2: to LA and you say, weant opportunity to bring in
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Speaker 2: some help, and you got a governor and a mayor going,
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Speaker 2: we don't need help, we don't want any help. Why not?
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Speaker 2: Why don't you want help? Now? I'm not making a
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Speaker 2: direct comparison here, That's not what I'm doing. But when
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Speaker 2: you hear President Trump throw out a term like insurrection
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Speaker 2: taking place in LA, it's hard not to kind of
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Speaker 2: connect some of these dots, isn't it. I mean, this
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Speaker 2: is what is actually there. This is what we've seen
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Speaker 2: already play out, and now were running this little game
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Speaker 2: in California. Oh and by the way, get ready because
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Speaker 2: these riots are coming soon to a city near all
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Speaker 2: of us. I've already seen posts on social media about
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Speaker 2: Atlanta this weekend, it's coming. I've seen posts other cities.
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Speaker 2: Get ready for Chicago, get ready for New York. I
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Speaker 2: guess New York's probably already had some things. But you
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Speaker 2: get Seattle. I guess Seattle's already had some things. Get
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Speaker 2: ready because this is where we're headed over the next
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Speaker 2: probably throughout the summer, unless the National Guard in each
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Speaker 2: state is going to have to go in and intervene
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Speaker 2: and don't think that it won't. Part of the reason
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Speaker 2: for sending people in and being tough in LA is
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Speaker 2: to make sure that other states, other cities understand this
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Speaker 2: isn't going to float. We're not playing this game again.
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Speaker 2: And you could get back to twenty twenty and you
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Speaker 2: could say, well, why in Trump do all this then?
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Speaker 2: And he's admitted, Hey, when I was president the first time,
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Speaker 2: I had people advising me, here's what you should do,
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Speaker 2: Here's what you shouldn't do. You shouldn't send in national Guard,
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Speaker 2: you shouldn't send in authorities in some of these situations
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Speaker 2: because you don't want the optics of that. He's not
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Speaker 2: playing that game this time. He's saying, Look, I'm the president.
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Speaker 2: I was elected. Immigration was a significant part of what
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Speaker 2: we ran on, and we're not going to let this
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Speaker 2: get out of control again. We're not going to let
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Speaker 2: this happen again. Now. I pray that another incident doesn't
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Speaker 2: come along to make things worse, to blow this up worse.
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Speaker 2: It's not what any of us need. We're still trying
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Speaker 2: to recover from a lot of mistakes made in the
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Speaker 2: last i'll say five years. You can go back to
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Speaker 2: COVID go back to twenty twenty. There were mistakes made. Then.
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Speaker 2: There were a lot of mistakes made by whoever was
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Speaker 2: running the country. For the last four years. We know
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Speaker 2: more and more every day that it wasn't Biden, it
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Speaker 2: was his auto pen. It was someone doing it on
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Speaker 2: his behalf. He's saying, now, no, no, I signed all
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Speaker 2: of those things. Well, then why did you do it
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Speaker 2: with an autopen? Can we get rid of the autopen?
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Speaker 2: What is the significance? I mean, isn't it about time
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Speaker 2: we just get rid of the autopen?
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Speaker 1: I like it.
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Speaker 2: I think the idea of a president sitting there with
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Speaker 2: his pen on TV, taking questions from reporters, signing the documents,
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Speaker 2: holding them up, showing everybody what they are, and then
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Speaker 2: putting them down. That's so much better than doing the
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Speaker 2: stuff under under darkness of night, hiding behind the scenes,
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Speaker 2: signing them while the president is at an event publicly,
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Speaker 2: sitting out watching the event. Somebody's in the back going
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Speaker 2: got to pardon me, gotta pardon you, gotta pardon him.
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Speaker 2: Whatever whatever they were doing, I don't know. I don't
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Speaker 2: know what the you hear the accusations, that's all I'm
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Speaker 2: we have folks looking to possibly do staycations, and wallet
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Speaker 2: Hub says after looking at more than one hundred and
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Speaker 2: eighty cities based on a number of metrics including recreation,
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Speaker 2: and that includes things like number of pools, tennis courts,
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Speaker 2: golf courses, hiking trails, amusement parks, and other things, food
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Speaker 2: and entertainment, cost of dining out, average cocktail price, concert halls,
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Speaker 2: coffee shops, beer gardens, museum zoos, things like that. And
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Speaker 2: then basically the rest of the category falls under relaxation spas,
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Speaker 2: wellness centers, public beaches that are ideal for summer weather.
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Speaker 2: And they have decided that the best city for twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty five to take a staycation to just stay put
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Speaker 2: where you are is Cincinnati, Ohio. All right, I won't
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Speaker 2: dispute that based on whatever their metrics are. I mentioned
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Speaker 2: this because Atlanta, Georgia is number nine on their list,
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Speaker 2: others kind of in the southeast, Orlando, Florida. I'll just
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Speaker 2: run through the top ten Las Vegas, Honolulu, Chicago, Saint Louis, Tampa,
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Speaker 2: Salt Lake City, then the aforementioned number nine Atlanta, and
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Speaker 2: San Diego. Rounding out the top ten. Chattanooga, Tennessee is
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Speaker 2: in there at number thirty. Knoxville is at thirty seven.
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Speaker 2: Trying to see if Alabama is anywhere on the board,
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Speaker 2: there we go. Fifty nine is Birmingham. I thought I
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Speaker 2: had seen that Huntsville is there at sixty two. I
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Speaker 2: can think of some reasons to go to Huntsville for
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Speaker 2: some cool space stuff. Anyway, Augusta, Georgia made the list
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Speaker 2: at number seventy nine, So that's basically kind of a rundown.
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Speaker 2: And here's the big one. Those of you know that
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Speaker 2: we do this show based out of Columbus, Georgia made
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Speaker 2: the list at number one hundred and ten, So that's excellent,
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Speaker 2: that's great. And if you know, we got the National
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Speaker 2: Infantry Museum, of course, we've got the Columbus State University,
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Speaker 2: Coca Cola Space Science Center. We've got Whitewater Rafting. So
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Speaker 2: some of the attractions and things that could draw people
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Speaker 2: to Columbus. But not bad. Number one ten on the list.
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Speaker 2: How much would we pay collectively for just one day
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Speaker 2: of peace and quiet? Well, not collectively, but as a
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Speaker 2: as a pole. New survey says the average American says
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Speaker 2: they would pay twenty five hundred and twenty one dollars
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Speaker 2: for a day of peace and quiet. Parents willing to
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Speaker 2: shell out more for a day at about thirty six
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Speaker 2: hundred dollars. The average parent survey said they would gladly
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Speaker 2: pay three hundred twenty five dollars for just a lazy
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Speaker 2: morning for themselves. The survey found that the average respondent
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Speaker 2: gets just nine and a half hours a month to themselves.
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Speaker 2: The biggest obstacles to achieving this alone time were family obligations,
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Speaker 2: work commitments, and money. Social obligations and guilt were also factors.
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Speaker 2: Now here's my question. If you say that money is
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Speaker 2: one of the things that keeps you from being able
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Speaker 2: to have just some time to yourself, how in the
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Speaker 2: hades are you going to pay thirty six one hundred
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Speaker 2: dollars for a day to Because I would think if
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Speaker 2: money was the problem, yeah, may not have the money
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Speaker 2: to spend on buying it. It's one of those absurd
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Speaker 2: and obviously it's kind of an absurdest question to begin with,
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Speaker 2: but it does seem a bit ridiculous, doesn't it. I mean, work,
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Speaker 2: family obligations, all of those things. I get it, but
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Speaker 2: I would think that if you're saying that you're gonna
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Speaker 2: spend thirty six hundred dollars, it would be to get
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Speaker 2: out of those things, and that money would have to
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Speaker 2: not be the problem. I don't know. That'll do it
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