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Mathis Does Divorce Court · Yo Gavel Gavel! - Court TV Commentary

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  Speaker 1: This is a Bramble Jam podcast.
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  Speaker 2: This week on your gavel Gavel. If your wife won't
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  Speaker 2: divorce you can you sewer for seven hundred dollars. Judge Matthew,
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  Speaker 1: If you sell your roommates prize, Mickey Mantle baton Glove.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Brendan Faust Brandan Faust or f a U s
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  Speaker 1: T Faust, it's a faust one assuing Peter Kowaski for
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  Speaker 1: fourteen one thousand dollars. Fourteen thousands. I think it's the
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  Speaker 1: most I've ever seen in the second case in a
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  Speaker 1: RASS episode. I know, all right, shocking. Uh, here's what
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  Speaker 1: Brendan says. I'm here today because my ex roommate sold
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  Speaker 1: my prized possession without telling me, a signed Mickey Mantle
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  Speaker 1: bat and glove value that's seventeen thousand dollars and he
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  Speaker 1: and he submits an appraisal. God, I if I, if
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  Speaker 1: anyone ever, if I had that, anyone did it, I
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  Speaker 1: would be what okay? So let me so, let me
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  Speaker 1: ask you. Obviously, this is a this is close to
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  Speaker 1: You're near your heart here. Yes, what would need to
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  Speaker 1: happen for you to take the side of the friends
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  Speaker 1: that sold the Mickey Mantle bat and glove, because right now,
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  Speaker 1: right out of the gate, it seems like you're on
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  Speaker 1: your on Brendan's side here, the one who had his
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  Speaker 1: stuff sold. The only thing that makes sense is retribution
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  Speaker 1: for and I don't I still don't agree with it.
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  Speaker 1: But retribution for like a.
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  Speaker 2: Murder or like maybe maybe Faust, maybe Kowowski. Uh No,
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  Speaker 2: Faust slept with Kowowski's Why for something like that would.
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  Speaker 1: Be the level. I can't imagine anything else. Well, I'll
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  Speaker 1: just I'll protect no murder or adultter got it, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: got it? Just some money. Oh, so Brendan no loves baseball.
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  Speaker 1: He was in the minors in facts and uh, he
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  Speaker 1: was in the miners for about a year and then
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  Speaker 1: he tore his U c L. Yeah that's the Tommy
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  Speaker 1: John joint, and so he had a bit of a
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  Speaker 1: road there and unfortunately he didn't ensure his body like
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  Speaker 1: other baseball players do, and so he was in a
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  Speaker 1: tough spot here. He wanted to try to recover and
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  Speaker 1: try to live out that dream. But it was going
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  Speaker 1: to be a bit of a road and was going
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  Speaker 1: to cost some money. And so his roommate, Peter uh
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  Speaker 1: you know, well fell for him, and so uh Peter
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  Speaker 1: offered to pay his rent for six months wow, while
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  Speaker 1: he you know, went through the recovery process and hopefully
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  Speaker 1: got back on his feet and was able to begin
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  Speaker 1: paying again and paying him back. Okay, Brendan uh at
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  Speaker 1: at Once the six months come up, Brendan feels bad,
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  Speaker 1: He's not quite there yet, and so John surgery takes
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  Speaker 1: over a year to heal well. I guess he didn't
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  Speaker 1: know that at the time, And so six months are
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  Speaker 1: approaching and he feels bad that he doesn't have the
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  Speaker 1: money to pay him back yet, and so he puts
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  Speaker 1: up his Mickey mantle glove and bat up as collateral,
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  Speaker 1: telling him that he's going to pay him back. What
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  Speaker 1: does that mean? It was his idea. Here's the text.
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  Speaker 1: We do get a text which is sent in from
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  Speaker 1: Brendan as proof. Here's the text from Brendan. Hey, bro,
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  Speaker 1: I know that you want the rent, and I am
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  Speaker 1: this close to getting it to you. I can offer
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  Speaker 1: you my mantle Baden glove to hold onto while I
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  Speaker 1: finish physical training. Collateral is what I think they call it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: what what's the other guy's name? Peter says, I mean sure?
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  Speaker 1: Brenden texts back, great, I promise I'll pay you back
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  Speaker 1: as soon as I start working. I hope you know
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  Speaker 1: how serious I am about this. You know these are
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  Speaker 1: important to me. That's the text. Three before he could
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  Speaker 1: give him the money, Peter sells the Baden glove can't
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  Speaker 1: do it. Drudge Ross asks, how long after you gave
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  Speaker 1: him the bad and glove is collateral do you think
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  Speaker 1: is fair before he can sell it? Brendan says, I
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  Speaker 1: would say about a year. Peter says, If I waited
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  Speaker 1: a year, I would have been on the street. Was
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  Speaker 1: there no agreement? No, not that we see in writing.
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  Speaker 1: At least he just says, I'm going to pay you back. Oh.
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  Speaker 1: There was the initial six months right that he owes him, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: then the collateral conversation, and then after two months of
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  Speaker 1: no payment he sells it. Okay, okay, eight months of
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  Speaker 1: Rentsworth what probably the three thousand that makes it go
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  Speaker 1: from seventeen to fourteen, that would be my guess. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so yeah, that makes sense. Peter sells it for sixty
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  Speaker 1: six hundred dollars. What in the world, ah uh, you're
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  Speaker 1: so mad. Peter claims that he tried to call to
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  Speaker 1: warn Brennan that he was going to sell it because
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  Speaker 1: he needs the money, but he said he couldn't get
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  Speaker 1: a hold of him. Brennan said, I did, indeed, I
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  Speaker 1: had to change my number, and I guess I forgot
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  Speaker 1: to give it to him. Ros says, but he has
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  Speaker 1: your prized possessions. How would you not give him your
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  Speaker 1: number to get in contact? And he says, I guess
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  Speaker 1: it just slipped my mind. That dross very rule. Dude.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just telling you right now, that's not how collateral works.
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  Speaker 2: You cannot just sell someone's things. And the problem here
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  Speaker 2: is is that the reason this is a bit of
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  Speaker 2: a sticky wicked is because he only sold it for
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  Speaker 2: sixty six hundred and it was a praise at seventeen K.
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  Speaker 2: How do you this guy's suing for what fourteen K
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  Speaker 2: fourteen K, which is seventeen K less the rent is
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  Speaker 2: that basically what he's.
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  Speaker 1: Sold it for sixty six hundred. My guess is what
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  Speaker 1: you said, like you probably owed him three thousand or
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  Speaker 1: you know, maybe thirty six hundred and then the other
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  Speaker 1: three thousand. He just took it off to seventeen, so
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. So here's what I'm gonna Here's what
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  Speaker 1: should happen. And Ross is probably not gonna be with me,
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  Speaker 1: But here's what should happen. He cannot sue him for
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  Speaker 1: money he doesn't have nor did he earn from the collateral.
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  Speaker 1: But you can better believe he can sue him for
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  Speaker 1: the money of the pro the actual product he sold,
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  Speaker 1: which is sixty six hundred. The problem is is he
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  Speaker 1: does owe him rent, So Ross is gonna give him
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  Speaker 1: the sixty six hundred. Well, I don't have any information
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  Speaker 1: about what that rent is. He I would worry about.
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  Speaker 2: The sixty six hundred less the rent he owed, even
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  Speaker 2: though what this dude did was absolute bs uh.
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  Speaker 1: He says you gave him collateral and didn't give him
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  Speaker 1: a term as far as when you would pay him back.
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  Speaker 1: Is nine months enough time for you to figure out
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  Speaker 1: how to make some money and pay him back? Hell? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it is. Matter is dismissed justice not a foreign calm.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't overstand or understand that. Yea.
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  Speaker 2: I will say this dude is stupid for I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we can guess at six months the rent. He's real
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  Speaker 2: stupid for putting putting that up for collateral, like real dumb,
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  Speaker 2: real dumb, but without terms, he just steal it.
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  Speaker 1: H Yeah, his body paid his rent form for.
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  Speaker 2: Six months Dan, but the thing is worth what appears
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  Speaker 2: to be years of rent.
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  Speaker 1: He tries to get in contact with him to tell
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  Speaker 1: him that, hey, I'm about to sell this if I
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  Speaker 1: don't get my money back. He doesn't get in a
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  Speaker 1: return because he his number and didn't tell him. I
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  Speaker 1: get it. I understand, I understand where that this is.
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  Speaker 1: He probably didn't have the right to sell it yet,
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  Speaker 1: but he tried to forget.
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  Speaker 2: Take Mickey Mantle out of it. Make this a ten
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  Speaker 2: a fifteen thousand dollars Honda a court right, make it up,
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  Speaker 2: make it something that I don't want nor need. Right
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  Speaker 2: without a contract in place, you can't sell the collateral.
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  Speaker 2: I don't believe unless you take them to court first.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. Very tried to contact him.
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  Speaker 1: I would like it more in full than that. I
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  Speaker 1: guess that's all that we get. It's all that we
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  Speaker 1: get no money for. He's out a Mantle glove and
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  Speaker 1: bat and all the money. That's insane. That's tough, insane. Well,
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  Speaker 1: what can you do. Let's hit over to Matthis, shall we? Oh? Please? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Sean Shephard is suing his wife for seven hundred and
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  Speaker 2: forty bucks.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, he's suing his wife and he's taking it
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  Speaker 1: to Mathis. I'm gonna go out on a lemon, say,
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  Speaker 1: Matthew is going to rule in favor of the man
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  Speaker 1: in this case. Wow, Okay, he's suing Jill Shepherd, his wife.
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  Speaker 1: Sean says, the only reason we're here today is that
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  Speaker 1: I filed for divorce and my wife will not grant it.
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  Speaker 1: Matthis says, is that true? Man why?
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  Speaker 2: Jill says, yes, I believe marriage is a strong union
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  Speaker 2: and we should try to work it out.
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  Speaker 1: And we haven't worked on it. Mathe.
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  Speaker 2: He just seemed to be the courtroom for this case.
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  Speaker 2: Matthis says, you didn't ask why why he wanted a divorce,
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  Speaker 2: and she says I have asked why, and he's not
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  Speaker 2: given me any answers. Oh, Sean says, that's not true.
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  Speaker 2: I filed for divorce two weeks before our first anniversary,
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  Speaker 2: and there's a lot of reasons for this. Matthews says,
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  Speaker 2: tell her now, because she clearly doesn't know. Sean says,
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  Speaker 2: in two thousand and five, we met through a mutual friend.
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  Speaker 2: Everything seemed to be perfect with us a lot in common,
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  Speaker 2: similar backgrounds. We both had just come out of abuse
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  Speaker 2: of relationships. She ended up getting pregnant with twins. Mathis goes,
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  Speaker 2: with somebody else's twins. He goes, No, our twins. He goes,
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  Speaker 2: why didn't you just say you know you got Like
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  Speaker 2: that's weird, he said, But we had twins. We planned
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  Speaker 2: our future together, and after she had the kids, she
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  Speaker 2: started to become really really abusive, like yelling, screaming, throwing things. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: Matthis says postpartum depression. Sean says, yes, and I asked
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  Speaker 2: her to see KELP and she refused. Jill says, your honor,
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  Speaker 2: may I interrupt? Matthews says, yes, you may. Jill says,
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't aware that I had an issue. The only
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  Speaker 2: time he wanted to address it is when I was angry,
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  Speaker 2: so I was just I couldn't hear anything he was saying.
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  Speaker 2: Matthis says, what do you think there was the reason
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  Speaker 2: for your anger?
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  Speaker 1: Then?
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  Speaker 2: Jill says, I was the primary caregiver for our six children.
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  Speaker 2: Sean had two kids before the marriage.
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  Speaker 1: I had two kids before the marriage, and we had
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  Speaker 1: twins together, and twins.
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  Speaker 2: Sean wasn't working, Sean did have a driver's license. I
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  Speaker 2: did everything, the bills, everything we did, the laundry, the dishes.
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  Speaker 2: It became overwhelming, especially watching Sean sit around and just
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  Speaker 2: be on his computer and talk to no one. He
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  Speaker 2: could even take a nap if he wanted.
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  Speaker 1: Can I ask you this one? Yeah? Why does she
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  Speaker 1: marry him? I listen, This case is so effing weird.
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  Speaker 1: I don't pull for either of these people, but there
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  Speaker 1: are times in the case where both of them I'm like, man,
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  Speaker 1: you married the worst human being? Can he Do you
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  Speaker 1: have a timeline? Like? Did they have the twins before
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  Speaker 1: they were made? I believe so they're only they're not
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  Speaker 1: even married a year before he yes, so it could
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  Speaker 1: be like correct, you know, we got because every time
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  Speaker 1: someone says something it sounds like the worst thing in
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  Speaker 1: a poker game of bad things, and then the next
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  Speaker 1: person comes in and goes and gives some their side
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  Speaker 1: to it, and it sounds a lot more reasonable. So
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  Speaker 1: it's just one of these things where it's like, like,
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  Speaker 1: what does he say about the doing nothing and being
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  Speaker 1: on the computer.
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  Speaker 2: The one thing I will say consistently throughout this case,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, please get divorced, Like, why does this
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  Speaker 2: woman want this guy around so badly? I don't understand
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  Speaker 2: why does she? Why is she like? And then why like,
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  Speaker 2: just get divorced? And that was where I did agree
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  Speaker 2: with Sean. It's like, at least he knows he shouldn't
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  Speaker 2: be in this like she's she doesn't all right? So, uh,
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  Speaker 2: Mathis goes, Uh he was, he'd have a job.
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  Speaker 1: She says. No.
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  Speaker 2: Sean says, that's not entirely true. Mathis says, even if
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  Speaker 2: it's half true. Even if it's half true, even if
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  Speaker 2: there was some times when you didn't have a job,
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  Speaker 2: for you to not do any laundry, and he's taking
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  Speaker 2: care of your kids, any help around the house, any
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  Speaker 2: nothing to support her, you ought to be ashamed of yourself.
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  Speaker 1: Jill says, you're on her. To be fair, he was
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  Speaker 1: was working occasionally, She sticks up for Oh wow.
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  Speaker 2: Mathis says, well, where where he wasn't working, would he
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  Speaker 2: share in some of the responsibilities. Jill says no, and
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  Speaker 2: Mathis goes, and you sure you don't want to divorce him,
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  Speaker 2: and then she says he's on the right track. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I've been in counseling since he left. There are some
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  Speaker 2: issues and that are my issues, and I'm working on them.
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  Speaker 2: And Matthis goes, do you think that's why he left?
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  Speaker 2: She goes, yes, that's definitely why he left. But there
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  Speaker 2: are two people in this relationship, and I think both
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  Speaker 2: of us working makes the most sense and working on
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  Speaker 2: it together. Matthis says, sir, why don't you think this
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  Speaker 2: deserves a second chance? She seems to be doing the work.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think that that deserves a second chance. Sean
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  Speaker 2: says it does, however, and then Matthis cuts him off
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  Speaker 2: and says, why don't you go to counseling with her?
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: He says, I don't think it's prudent at this juncture.
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  Speaker 2: I've seen no proof that she's changed, nor do I
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  Speaker 2: think it will change. Mathis then pushes further, why not
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  Speaker 2: go to counseling and get some insight? And finally Sean
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  Speaker 2: just looks at me and he goes, you're hon her.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to, okay, Mathis says, I think she
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  Speaker 1: deserves to know why you want the divorce what are
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  Speaker 1: you doing right now?
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  Speaker 2: Sean says, I have a duplex. My two daughters live
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  Speaker 2: with me. I opened up a retail shop for computer repairs.
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  Speaker 2: She knew for months before that I was doing this
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  Speaker 2: and working on this, and that when I left, I
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  Speaker 2: told her months ahead of time I was going to
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  Speaker 2: leave her. I told her I needed to see changes
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  Speaker 2: where I was gonna leave, And for three straight months
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  Speaker 2: nothing happened, and so I left. Jill says, your honor,
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  Speaker 2: I did try to make changes. The first counselor I
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  Speaker 2: saw wasn't a good fit, so I had to change counselors.
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  Speaker 2: It was a longer process than I intended it to be,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm really sorry about that.
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  Speaker 1: It's wild. It is so wild. At least it's not Joe.
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  Speaker 1: It's not Joe Brown. Joe Brown would.
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  Speaker 2: Have been like, why aren't you in the kitchen cooking
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  Speaker 2: in his favorite It would have been unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: Now in my day, crock pot macaroni, and she all
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  Speaker 1: four of my It's ridiculous, all right.
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  Speaker 2: So Sean Math's is like, let's get to the lawsuit.
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  Speaker 2: Let me maybe get some clarity there. Sean says, So
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  Speaker 2: I've been working with a company, and I quit for
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  Speaker 2: ethical reasons which I don't really want to get into
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  Speaker 2: right now.
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  Speaker 1: Matthew says, fine.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, we did have no course, Nott the place to
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  Speaker 2: get We had no money coming in. I did go
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  Speaker 2: into depression. I didn't want to be bothered with anything,
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  Speaker 2: even my own kids, and that was terrible. Sure, and
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  Speaker 2: Maths goes, and you're talking about her moods. Did you
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  Speaker 2: get help? He said, yeah, I did, and depression. My
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  Speaker 2: depression put a lot of stress on my wife. I
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  Speaker 2: understand that. But after I saw help, I decided to
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: get my computer business back up and running. I was
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: spending a lot of time working from home. I was
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: promoting myself. I got clients, I got a phone number,
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: I got a cell phone for my business. I did
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: everything I needed to do to make my business work,
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: and I was about to open up a shop. I
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: filed for divorce in February, and in March she goes
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: down to the phone company and she shuts my business
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: phone off without telling me. I lost access to all
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: of my clients, which made all my promotional materials I
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: just purchased pretty useless. And I had to start from scratch. Oh,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Sean says, so those are the business expenses that no.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Mathis says, So those are the business expenses and lost
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: wages and from the phone being cut off. That's what
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: we're suing for seven or four dollars, he says.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Jill says, well, I can explain. He said he was
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: filing for divorce. He did, and Marchie said, I won
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: off the phone bill. I went and took his name
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: off the cell bill. That's what happened. Oh, matthis says,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: is that true? Sean says, I told her I wanted
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: off the phone bill, but that I wanted to transfer
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: my number to my own account. I told her this.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: She still went down and shut the phone down the
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: day before I was supposed to swish it switch it
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: phone down, so she so I lost the phone number altogether.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Jill said, your honor, he does all the things for
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: his two kids now that he never did for our six.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: He pays the rent, he cooks, he cleans, he takes
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: them to school. None of these things he could do
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: while he was with me. Matthis says, sir, what do
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: you have to say to that? And Sean says, I
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: have no response. Mathis is ready to rule.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Oh this is why what I am. There's a lot
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: of mucking myres this case about divorce and who is
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: getting help and why the divorce is happening. At the
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: base of it, this is a case about somebody turning
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: off somebody else's phone number that he used for his business. Right,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: that is what the money is about. That's what the
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: money is about. And so it does seem to me
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: like there was communication. I would have loved to see
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: some sort of written communication like Hey, I'm going to
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: take care of this. That would have made this a
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: lot easier. But we don't have that. We have a
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: I told her that I was going to do it myself.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: She still went down there. I believe that the person
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: who wants to stay with her husband is probably not
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: the person who would vindictively go in and turn off
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: the phone line, even though I.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Think everybody in this case is exactly who they say
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: they are. I think she won would, But I also
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: think he did nothing for his family for however long.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: I think they're both terrible in their own way, and
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: they're all working through some stuff and they are getting help.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: So just for for clarification there, so this is what
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say. She owes him the money. Okay, he
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: also has twins with her? Yeah right, Yes, I think
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: it's just gonna be a wash. I think it's gonna
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: be a wash. I think it's gonna be a hey,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: everybody do better. She owes you money for the business stuff.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: You also have twins that you need to support with
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: her burt by birth, by birth, by birth. You have
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: these children, correct, you need to be supporting them. And
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: so I'm gonna I'm just gonna so it's a wash.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: So this is a little bit of a rug pulled
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: out situation. Ah, mathis I the marriage stuff matters?
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Because matthis says something that I didn't know but makes sense,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: which is he says it's difficult to give a ruling
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: in this case because in maryle marital property, we're talking
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: about joint assets, and a husband and wife cannot sue
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: each other over property unless there are a few exceptions,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: like if you personally inherited property outside of the marriage,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: then you can sue if she or he tries to
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: take that or they try to take that from you.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: But aside from a few extreme issues, a husband and
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: wife can't sue each other over property if they're still married.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: And not divorced. You guys have to go to divorce
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: court to figure this out. The case is dismissed, he
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: gets no money. That's tough. It was wild because I
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: didn't like either one of them.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: I fundamentally didn't like either one of them, aside from
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: the fact that they both.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Because if you're like, if you really want to get
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: back at somebody, if yours, that's exactly yes, and then
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: there's still feel.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Their car and don't sign the divorce papers and you're
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: in the clear. Basically, That's what I learned today. Yeah,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: you did it, man, how about that? Of course, well
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: we did it. We certainly did.
• 21:57
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