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Iowa Day on BTN reaction, Cyclone football thoughts, Bill Bender on College Football & The Voice of the Chiefs Mitch Holthus joins · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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All right, good afternoon. Welcome to Miller and Condon.
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On a Tuesday, the Iowa Sports Radio Network headquartered out
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of Des Moines sports station One O 6.3, KX and all.
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But wherever you are listening in the state of Iowa, we are
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grateful that you're doing so. Here's what's coming up on our
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program today, along with Trent Condon and myself, we will start
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talking college football. Buckle up, we're going to talk a
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lot of college football in the next 5 months.
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Isn't that priceless? It really is Bill Bender
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Sporting News will kick things off coming up here at about
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12:25. Mitch Holtis in his daily spot
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Chief Daily Chiefs training camp reports that brought to us by
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Papa John's throughout the state of Iowa but headquarters here in
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Johnston with the Donaldsons. Mitch Holtis will join us at
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12:45-ish. Starting off our number 2.
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Someone we've never spoken to before and I don't think someone
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we've ever kind of put the spotlight on a team wise
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anyways. And that's those never to be
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using again. Milwaukee Brewers, we found a
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guy from the lockdown network, Chuck Fryland, I believe is how
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we pronounce his name, but he's going to join us coming up at
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1:00. We are a week away from what, at
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least on the surface, last week promised to be a pretty good
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Series 5 game in between the Brewers and the Cubs and the
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ramifications, etcetera. They may not mean too much, but
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we'll talk to Chuck Fryland about those brew crews.
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They went again last night dispatching of the Pirates and
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then we are going. I went to catch up with Bill
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Seals. He was busy yesterday, unable to
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join Trent due to media availabilities with a couple of
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the assistant coaches. So Iowa State conversation
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coming up here with Bill Seals at about 1:30.
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Trent will make some plays of the day before we move on over
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for off the bench. Trent's plays of the day, Circus
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sports sponsor those and that'll be about 1:50 or so.
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Good to see you. How are you?
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How was the weekend? A lot of Iowa football
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conversation, at least on X with the kids, practice Saturday,
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media day on Friday, and of course the Big 10 Network was in
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town. Jake Butt etcetera was in town
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on and yesterday and Big 10 Network put it all together,
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packaged it all up and put it on the air last night at 7:00.
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It was a lot. You go back to media day,
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everything you get out of there, and then it becomes old news
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because then you have your one glimpse you.
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Get to see them in person. Right.
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And then you get to last night and you take those little
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glimpses that you had and you kind of take it further.
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But you also know that it's kind of cut up and you know it's it's
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delayed from what, 10 hours beforehand when they're actually
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practicing to before you get to see it and they kind of slice it
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and dice it. So it's a ton of information,
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but that's a good thing. We get a ton of information
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because our neighbors to the north.
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Give us absolutely nothing. Is speculative now.
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Some assistant coaches have been available.
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You know what? Let me tap the brakes.
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Fairpoint. Right Fairpoint.
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They've been giving us that which is.
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Good because not good enough, but good we're.
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Walking through the desert looking for any kind of drink.
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Can we get a little bit? But at this point, what would
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opening up a practice, even not an open kids day practice like
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Iowa does? But you know, Lucas mentioned
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this yesterday. Just allow for an hour, media
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members to come in and take some notes and get a glimpse.
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Mm hmm. Now as we're getting closer to
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the beginning of their season, obviously it's too tight, but
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right, He could have done that a week ago.
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Yes, they could have is the answer.
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They could have, yeah. What is the reason that you?
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Don't, though. He's paranoid.
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He thinks it's an edge. It has to be.
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I I can't figure it out. There's no other reason.
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Mm. Hmm.
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Other than the fact that he believes that this gives his
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team an edge. That that has to be.
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It drives me nuts. Yeah, As we've been saying it
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for years, since he got there, he's not going to change his.
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What do they change? What's the expression, spots,
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stripes, whatever it is, that's the way he's going to do
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business. I'm, I'm telling you, I'm
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halfway convinced myself there when, if there ever comes a time
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when the Big 12 has to put out an availability report.
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He'll quit. I don't think he'll quit.
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He'll wake up. He'll wake.
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Up in the middle of the night in a deep sweat.
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Oh goodness, we're going to let them know who's injured, right?
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No, what's injured just I mean this is how he is look and how
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can he knock the. Success oh absolutely right
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winning his coaching program history it's not even close no
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it's it brings me back to and both Hawkeye fans and cyclone
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fans neither side wants to admit it but it's absolutely true Kirk
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Ference and Matt cable they're the same guy they're just have a
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25 year age difference this they're the.
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Same back, yes. This was Kirk Ference 25.
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Do you remember when the spring game started to go away?
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Yes, and it turned into to just a practice that people freaked
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out. They lost their how could you do
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this right? And that's what Kirk was 25
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years ago and he's a got older also solidified a little bit
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more. And those contracts keep coming
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year after year after year. I'm sure it's easier to open
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things up when you hit that level of success.
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And maybe in another 10 years. We're talking about Matt
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Campbell in a different way, I hope, as he.
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Gets you will be, but I hope, I hope you're able to do that.
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Deeper into his career that it is different, but Hawkeye fans,
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Cyclone fans, they're the same guy.
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They are, in a lot of ways they're the same guy and it's
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not lost on, at least it's not lost on me.
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What could happen, By the way, on September the 6th, Iowa State
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will be on September the 6th, they'll be playing their third.
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Game of the Year dumb. What's the rush, right, let's
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say I mean, I know that ultimately we're going to get to
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know Thanksgiving and they're they're all going to play the
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same, but no man. So and it it kind of struck me
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watching the Big 10 network special last night that Iowa
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wins week one. Got to believe they're going to
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he'll be tied with Woody Ace and Iowa and Week 2.
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Their opponent just happens to be those Iowa State Cyclones
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where Kirk Ference could set the record for the most all time
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wins as a coach of a Big 10 school.
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Phenomenal. Just the way that it may or may
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not turn out. But we're going to see and
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obviously as we're getting closer and closer and closer.
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So I don't know what school you want to talk about first.
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Obviously, I, I guess probably I would because they're state of
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and you know, just one other thing about that, about the, the
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media coverage. This is why I go out of my way
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to thank TJ Alsenberger on the air.
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And I don't know if it gets back to him or not.
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I want to believe that somebody, you know, whispers in his ear
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just how grateful that all the media is for him doing this in
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the summer months and because he's made a steam available,
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freshman or not, that's another thing that you'll never see
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happen with the football program.
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But anyways, again, how can you knock the success that they've
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had? We'll see what happens this year
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with both schools, but I'm 100% in agreement with you.
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They're the same guy in a lot of ways.
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It it's just true and we'll see how things work now.
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I don't think her parents will be talking.
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I'll be coaching in in 10 years probably though, right?
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He looks good. He absolutely does.
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You know, moving around, couple of hip surgeries.
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We found that out in Vegas that he's something that was under
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the radar that we didn't know. But yeah, he's getting around.
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He's still hollering and you hear many of the same things
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that are still coming out of him and going back to last night and
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the show from BTN. Now we know there's going to be
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a certain they're not going to go in to a Big 10 program, say
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this team is awful. Sure it's not going to happen,
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right? It is going to be looking at
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the. Positive, you know what?
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And if you want to see how they do that, how they put lipstick
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on that pig, watch the special on the brass.
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I mean, Wisconsin tonight because how they're going to
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paint a a rosy picture about these Badgers that I want to
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see. Well, I think they're going to
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be much better than they were a year ago.
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It's just not going to show up because the schedule is that
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difficult. Take a look at the Maryland one.
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Try to find that one or take a look at Purdue or Northwestern.
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Those are the ones that you really are digging because I
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think. Wisconsin's scene is one of
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those upper, especially when you have the two divisions right.
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Anyways, look, my take away, Trent, and it's been my take
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away since going back to Friday. Every time I hear or read
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something, that's that the media is writing about or the coaches
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are talking about this Nathan McNeil, this freshman running
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backs going to play, isn't he? I think he is, but then you get
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back into where do the carries come from now, The new rules of
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the rester. Said by committee.
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By committee, but even with by committee.
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This is a big committee. How many?
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Carries is your 4th running back going to get?
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Or is he 4? Is he 4?
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So Bolton's hurt. He's got a hamstring injury.
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And and what's the prognosis there?
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Is there any kind of Intel around that?
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There is not. It is wild speculation all over
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the place. The belief is though, remember
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Kamara Milton was the. Starter here, I do remember.
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He averaged 5 1/2 yards of carry last year.
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This guy is a very talented running back and the guy they
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thought was going to be Caleb Johnson was a season to go.
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You know, that's one thing Ferren said, too.
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There's always one of those guys.
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There's always one of those Caleb Johnson.
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We're not expecting that. And they need that story, and
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that's how we put it yesterday on the program.
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So you go next to Jessamne Patterson's the guy that I just,
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I wonder about. He's fine.
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He's a nice solid veteran backup.
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But I think we see what he is. He doesn't have certainly the
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ceiling that I think McNeil has. He doesn't have the speed that
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Dahl has. He doesn't have the size that
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Xavier Williams has. When we're talking about those
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young running backs, I don't think that if an injury hits, if
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Bolton's not able to go, that they're going to rely on Jazzy
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on Patterson for 25 carries a game.
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You know the first couple of times out he is what he is.
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You get to TJ Washington. And is he nicked up a little bit
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too? He also is, but they love him.
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Speaking of guys that they love, I mean, this is a guy last year
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they moved him over to the slot wide receiver kind of position.
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They moved him back over running back.
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But they have tried to find different ways to get him
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involved and they really like him.
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So I just come back to in a season, unless injuries hit and
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they've already hit in a certain way.
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Does it make more sense with Nathan McNeill?
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Try to keep him at that four-game minimum.
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And then then playing the bowl game.
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But then here's the other part. In today's environment, does
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that even make sense to do anymore?
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He might. Go anywhere.
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He might go somewhere. He's from the South, too, and he
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goes out there and he's a kid, right?
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Yeah. You play four games and.
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Your tapes out there. He's averaging 5 1/2 of the
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carry employee. I think we all miss, however,
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we're Auburn, we're going to drop a bag.
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We're all miss and we need to run whoever it is and kind of
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goes both ways. So either all in or all how?
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No, you know what? You have to change the way you
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do business trade because the of college football.
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You never mentioned your buddy, your buddy's son, Brevin Dahl.
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Dahl's got speed. Does he?
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Oh yeah. And how's he doing?
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He's healthy, back healthy. He's up 12 lbs.
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The speed is definitely still. There, I was disappointed when
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Lester was listing off some of his running backs and he had to
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fail to mention Mr. Dahl. Yeah, what's?
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Going on here, he got six of them.
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I know that's what you got, yeah.
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And I'm sure it was just a brain cramp but I was waiting to hear
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his name. But.
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It's down the pecking order and that's the reality that they're
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going through here. So yeah, you're right though,
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McNeil, he keeps coming up. He came up three straight days
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and he did. The other thing, it seems like
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Jackson Stratton's nowhere near the the the Hunt and Heklinski
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and Hank Brown are getting a lot of chatter as far as who's going
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to win that job. And they mentioned that Hank
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Brown was the only one of the quarterbacks that was there.
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Well, where was Stratton? He would have been there in the
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spring. Was he hurt?
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I think he was well. Because because Lester said the
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only quarterback we had this spring that's on the rosters,
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Hank Brown. Well, hang on a second.
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Jackson Stratton was there. Now Stratton was late getting
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back in, so I don't know if it was an injury from spring, OK,
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Because I heard he's playing a little bit of catch up himself
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and he hasn't been available. But Haklinski and Brown are
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clearly the two that are going to battle for that number two
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spot. And they both have upside I.
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Was going to say they both throw a really pretty ball.
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Hecklinski got that Drew Tate in him.
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He's little mocks. He's my guy.
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Yes, And then Hank Brown. Well, here's a problem.
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Hank Browns got that ball that whizzes through the air.
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You can hear it. Now I'm confused.
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Now, you like them both? Yeah.
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And I think they like them both. I think Tim Lester likes them.
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Both. Do they like them well enough
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that they will? This will not be an area of
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concern once Mr. Gronowski runs out of eligibility.
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I believe that's the way that this is.
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Good that that's a positive. And the way that I was spends in
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the portal, look, they spend a ton.
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I'm Mark Gronowski. They spent probably over their
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skis of what maybe they were hoping to have to do, but that's
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what they had to do. Well, you look at next season
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and all of a sudden, if you don't have to worry about
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quarterback in the portal, what can you do financially in order
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to augment that roster going into next year?
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They believe in both of those guys.
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Hecklinski I think was a huge surprise to just how close he
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is, but I know Tim Lester loves Hank Brown.
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You could tell that I know that both Kirk Ference, as we switch
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to the defensive side of the ball, and Phil Parker and I'm
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going to have to work on his name because it's a tricky 1.
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Sharar, Sharar Shire Shire Shire Shire.
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Carson Shire. Carson Shire, who's waited his
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turn like they all have, he's seemingly his turn is now and
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he's taking full advantage of that because the I keep hearing
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as much as I keep hearing about the freshman running back, I
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keep hearing about the red shirt, senior linebacker Shire.
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Now, Carson Shire is a guy that's been around for five
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years. We've heard about him since he
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was a freshman, and he's always hurt.
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Yep. And so that's always the
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lingering thing. And I threw this out yesterday
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and I know it. It's a little bit hyperbolic
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because he's not this guy, but there were some memories with
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the size he has and yet the speed.
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I mean, he's a. Big dude is he?
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Playing that outside spot, I mean he's he's 63225.
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He looks the part at the outside.
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He's a lot bigger than Nick Jackson was.
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You know, you look at some of the some of the recent guys, he
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reminds me of Greenway and I get it.
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He's not Chad Greenway. He's not going to be a first
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round pick yes. That's not he's not going to be
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a Pro Bowl. That's not what I'm saying it
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just with the size that he has and the sideline to sideline
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that we're able to see on Saturday.
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It's just called Greenway Junior.
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I'm not saying he's Chad Greenway.
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Don't don't take it that way. But when you're looking for a
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cop, it's just that was the first name that popped into my
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mind when I saw him just flying all over Bacon place.
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That'll work. You'll take that even if it's a
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a slipped a different version of that if he's close.
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Yeah, you're pretty. Good.
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What did you make of Dinardo and Butt and refs and what they had
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to say about the team? You know the one interesting
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part is now it's Jake Button. He's a tight end, right?
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So. But Friday, not a whole lot on
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tight ends for media day. Saturday didn't see the tight
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ends, even in a day that it felt like they were kind of work on
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the passing game. Estranga's name was all over the
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show last. Night and then last night we get
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to last night and it's Addison Estranga and they're talking
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about Wortworth and they're we've heard about some of these
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young guys that are maybe starting to pop.
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What I want to see, maybe the most intriguing part that I
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don't feel like I have a solid answer.
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Last year, Luke Lachey had 29 catches.
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We also know Luke Lachey coming off that injury, he was not the
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same guy. He was a diminished Luke Lachey
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a season ago. This is the Packers offense.
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That's what Tim Luster brought with him.
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And it is the Lafleur offense, the Shanahan offshoot to
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Lafleur, and they don't use the tight ends much.
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Is this the new reality, this new offense that the Titans are
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of course going to be a part of it and they're still going to do
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2 tight end step sets. But and the chances even in a
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more pass happy offense that a tight end catches 4550 balls, Is
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that off the table or was that just what we saw a year ago?
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And because of Lachey being diminished and quarterback play
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that that was the reason? That's what I I don't feel like
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I have a solid answer of what tight end.
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Do you think the tight end catches were elevated just
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because the receiver room was so well?
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I think that was a part of an. Adequate.
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Yeah, I, I think for a long time in this Iowa program, I mean
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many. Pieces said as much yesterday.
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Of the 26 years previous to this one, how many years was the wide
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receiver room better than the tight end room?
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234 maybe? Yeah, if that's.
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Been a long time. The chances that.
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Well, they've had some dudes at that position where you couldn't
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help but throw them with. Well they did for some reason
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didn't utilize Kittle. He had injury problems itself
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too, and it was kind of a knucklehead early in his career
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though, was he? Yeah, Oh yeah.
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And he said as much. He knew that he had to re
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evaluate his love of football if he was actually going to get on
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the field and instead of being a knucklehead off of it. #46
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right, yes. Yeah, Wild him.
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Jake Doozy. Jake Doozy was the better the
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players. Well, at the time, yeah, at the
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time. Doozy before that injury he that
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run he had against Ohio State putting ketchup in Columbus when
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they came out in the three tight end set.
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Up there, I remember that. Hanging around against the
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Buckeyes where they should have been hanging around against that
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Ohio State team. No, yeah, but mention how tough
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it is to play it. Kennick when he came in is with
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the number 2 ranked team. So we'll see.
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Obviously it's great to believe that we're talking about that,
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but hard, not hard to ignore right when they're in the
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spotlight on Friday, Friday, Saturday and then again on on on
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Monday. So if you started to broaden
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your horizon when it comes to any Big 10 or Big 12 schools
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that you're thinking to yourself, you know, maybe this
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is the best team or maybe this team is going to win this
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conference. When it comes to the top spot,
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not quite. I like I like Utah and a bounce
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back here. I do too.
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I think Utah and the Big 12 is going to have a bounce back.
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You know, I struggle and it pops into my mind because of our
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conversation with Mike Palm last Friday from Circa.
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He mentioned we were talking about the K State, Iowa State
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game, that they continue to get steam on Kansas State, not just
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in that game, but overall to win the Big 12.
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You know me in offensive lines. Yeah.
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Yeah. And they they spent on their
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offensive line. One of their dudes is hurt.
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That there was another component where I saw and I, I think it
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was, I want to say it was one of their tackles, but I just saw a
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little piece, a little clip on. He was like the 168th ranked
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tackle from PFFA year ago. So yeah, you went out and you
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spent, but it wasn't very good last year.
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And this game early in the season, I wonder about Kansas
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State where they're going to be with an offensive line play.
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And, and I keep coming back to that.
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Now Iowa State has their own questions on the other side of
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the on their defensive front and outside of Dominic Orange, what
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they're going to look like there.
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But when I keep coming back to that, I wonder and I also kind
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of wonder, is this going to be an under game?
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You know, is this going to be 16/13/2017?
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Is something like that, that it's going to look like
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preseason football in the NFL? It's going to look ugly early.
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On well, I'm actually see what it's going to look like in the
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stands because we're hearing 12 to 13,000 Cyclone fans making
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their way over to that game. K State schedule Iowa State to
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start tough games. They'll host Texas Tech on the
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1st of November. They'll go to Utah on the 22nd
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of November. So there's maybe the two
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toughest games, 3 toughest games when you factor in the close.
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Anyways, we're going to talk to Bill Bender next.
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We can do some college football broadening horizons other than
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Big 10 and Big 12, but we'll do that with Bill Bender.
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Mitch Holtis Daily Chiefs training camp report coming up
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at 12:45. It's sponsored by Papa John's
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here in central Iowa. Look forward to doing that,
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going to talk some Brewers and some baseball to kick off the
19:37
second hour of the program. And then Bill Seals who had a
19:42
media available availability yesterday, but he'll be with us
19:46
today at about 1:30 to catch this up on Iowa State 1220.
19:51
Miller and Condon underway on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
20:00
Approaching 12/30 on a Tuesday, Still to come this hour, Mitch
20:03
Holtz is the voice of the Kansas City Chiefs.
20:06
The Daily Chiefs training camp report about 12:45-ish or so,
20:10
but we can talk college football prior to that.
20:12
Bill Bender, he covers it for The Sporting News and he is with
20:16
Trent and I Bill Trenton. Ken, good to speak with you as
20:19
we enter our way to week #0. I want to start with you.
20:22
First of all, welcome to the program.
20:24
Thank you for the heavy lift. When you kind of broke down the
20:27
accuracy and what the AP polls have meant over the years, just
20:31
how accurate they are or how many times they miss.
20:34
Who's the biggest miss usually? How heavy of a lift was that
20:38
bill? And what did you glean from
20:39
your, from your own, from your own research?
20:43
So so I'm late to the party on Ted Lasso.
20:45
I started watching that a couple weeks ago and the be curious
20:50
thing has really stuck with me and I was curious how it looked
20:53
the last five years. You know, what about as close to
20:59
what we rank them to what actually happened as any school
21:03
on that list that we looked at. And you know, the finding
21:06
basically was about 52% of the teams that are ranked now will
21:11
be ranked at in the end of the season according to the last
21:14
five years. But they they hit about 58 to
21:17
60% of the top ten teams. And I've always thought that
21:20
right, and that we you get the top ten teams right, It's that
21:24
16 to 25 can be dicey. Yeah, put them in a hat.
21:28
Yes. And certainly you understand
21:30
that part of it. Well, that's kind of that group
21:32
of teams that I'm wondering about, that teams that made the
21:35
big jump forward a year ago kind of out of nowhere, Illinois,
21:39
South Carolina, Arizona State, Indiana.
21:42
Is there a team out of that group that you really like that
21:44
you believe is going to take what they did a year ago and
21:46
it's not that they have to be better, but at least can
21:48
maintain what they built a season ago?
21:51
Well, well, Trent, I think it's hard to stack up 4 through 9 in
21:54
the Big 10 right now. And we know the top 3 is going
21:57
to be Ohio State, Penn State, Oregon.
21:59
But when you look at Tier 2, where I'm like, is it Illinois,
22:04
Michigan, USC, Nebraska, Indiana or Iowa, I think that's your,
22:10
that's hard to sort out because any one of those six teams to
22:13
me, you could make the case could be that fourth team in the
22:16
Big 10. Rather it's Michigan with Bryce
22:18
Underwood seeing a lot of clips now ski out there, you know, the
22:22
last couple days and does he get that Iowa pass going?
22:25
It snuck up on me today. I'm doing a 1 to 136 ranking
22:29
that maybe we can talk about next week.
22:31
OK. Nebraska plays at Cincinnati
22:35
Thursday. You know how how's that going to
22:38
be? That should be a lot of fun.
22:39
Well, that game's in Kansas City.
22:40
It's a neutral site, but yes, your points, right, they're
22:43
going to face each other. It's going to be fascinating.
22:45
So I want to go back to the poll.
22:47
The Big 12 has what they get, 3 teams, I think Iowa State, Texas
22:51
Tech and K State, and then right on the outside of it, others
22:54
receiving votes. The next three teams are all Big
22:56
12 schools, BYU, Utah and Baylor.
23:00
Who's your choice, Bill, to win the Big 12?
23:02
Have you settled build on a conference pick in your mind
23:05
when it comes to the Big 12? Well, I mean Arizona State's the
23:09
easy choice, but man, we had them picked last last year.
23:13
So it gives me a lot of pause. I do think that Kansas State,
23:17
Iowa State games are real tone better.
23:19
You know, the team that wins that game, huge springboard.
23:22
If you can win that ranked match up, start the season.
23:25
And I do know that one's in Dublin, Ireland.
23:28
You know, I think I did get that right.
23:31
You know, and I think the rest of these Big 12 teams, like you
23:34
mentioned, Baylor's really interesting sleeper.
23:36
We've talked about them a little bit on here with Sawyer Roberts
23:38
and how they closed. Auburn better be careful there
23:41
because I I, I think that's a game that Baylor absolutely can
23:44
win. Oklahoma checks in at 18 now you
23:48
look at what they did recently, you look at their move to the
23:51
SEC, you look at questions all over the field and a guy on a
23:55
hot seat. If there anybody else out there
23:57
in Oklahoma, I don't know if this be the 18th ranked team of
23:59
the country, but name brand does help out when it comes to these
24:02
preseasons season rankings. Where are you in the Sooners and
24:04
your number two in the SEC? Well, I mean the the the latest
24:09
story on John material. Yeah, that's not regulate.
24:12
We'll. We'll see where that goes.
24:14
Oklahoma's obviously looking into it with the Venmo
24:17
transactions and the allegations.
24:19
And there's even, I mean, that story's getting bizarre with
24:22
who's reporting it. So I'm going to just trust
24:25
Oklahoma to look into it. So Michigan coming down there
24:32
and Michigan what a non conference game that will be.
24:36
And I think we'll learn then. But John Mateer on the surface,
24:39
I mean, he's the guy that has to get this Venable era going.
24:42
And I think there's a ton of pressure on Oklahoma to not just
24:46
be good at home. I think you got to look at that
24:48
in the SCC. We're not just anybody can win
24:50
at home in that conference. They have really tough home
24:52
environments. Playing who can get it done on
24:54
the road in Oklahoma hasn't been doing that.
24:57
Are you convinced, or maybe I'll phrase it this way, is Arch
25:02
Manning going to come out after this year?
25:04
He seemingly with the number one overall pick.
25:07
The Saints are going to be brutal following grandpa's
25:08
footsteps dot dot dot. But Peyton went back to
25:11
Tennessee for his senior year and this was before NIL, at
25:14
least legal. NIL played the SEC after all.
25:18
Is is Arch Manning one and done in your mind or do you expect
25:21
him to have a very difficult back and forth decision and
25:24
maybe stay for another year? Are you suggesting that FCC
25:28
players money before the NILI don't know.
25:34
I don't wink wink right the but Peyton Manning and Eli I think
25:42
when Archie said Texas or Archie is going to stay at Texas for
25:47
the next two years. I didn't blink because I think
25:49
that's what he's going to do I do I think you get the whole
25:54
college experience and I'll does help and Peyton and Eli Peyton
25:58
stayed four years. Eli stayed popped.
26:00
So I think with that, history suggests he's going to be there.
26:04
And I think when this step out can every quarterback drafted
26:09
number one since 1998, since Peyton Manning, only two played
26:15
one year as a starter and that was Cam Newton and Kyler Murray.
26:18
So to me, that just tells me right there, you might get the
26:21
best of Arch Manning next year. And I don't know that he can
26:25
live up to that hype this year, because it's impossible.
26:28
Speaking of hype, there's always hype.
26:30
Down in Alabama, though, the hype train has slowed down a
26:32
little bit. And Caitlin De Boer's second
26:34
year, Ty Simpson, has been named the quarterback.
26:37
A gold soldier, right? Stuck around, could have gone
26:40
other places and been a starter. He sticks her out and waits his
26:42
turn, and now he's going to get it.
26:44
Are we sleeping a little bit on Alabama, or is it more than
26:48
anything, we got to see what Ty Simpson can actually do?
26:51
No, I'm picturing I'm going through all my scenarios for
26:53
Week 1 and you know, Trent, one that keeps popping up in my head
26:57
is and what if Florida State beats Alabama?
27:00
What am I going to be doing Monday morning?
27:02
You know, there is so much pressure on killing the Bora
27:05
this year. I should have said as one of
27:07
those guys, though, that another thing I could be writing is, and
27:11
this guy waited his turn because we saw that with Garrett
27:14
Nussmeyer last year, a guy that waited his turn did very well
27:17
and I'm still a proponent for that.
27:19
It's OK in 2025 to develop a little bit and wait your turn.
27:24
And I think Ty Simpson could be that guy.
27:27
A lot of pressure there, though at Alabama, especially against
27:30
Florida State, who I think they're going to be better.
27:33
I don't think they're going to be two and 10 again.
27:35
No, it better not be. Speaking of the SEC, have you
27:39
had time to watch any Given Saturday, the Netflix special?
27:43
Have you seen any of it, Bill? Well I I have it in the queue.
27:47
I I've heard seen some of the clips and heard the reviews.
27:50
I do want to watch it. Like I said I was finishing up
27:53
Ted Lasso so I'm only like 7 years late on that.
27:57
But no I I will definitely check it out.
28:00
I've heard good reviews though. It's phenomenal.
28:02
It's great. It really is.
28:03
Yeah. If you like college football,
28:05
that should be right in your wheelhouse.
28:07
So give me a a team that maybe not top of mind now, like like a
28:13
Penn State or Ohio State or, you know, a Georgia.
28:16
Give me a playoff, a dark horse. A dark horse playoff team in
28:19
your mind, Bill is who Georgia Tech?
28:23
OK, that's a good one. Yep, that's.
28:25
Does that work? Yes.
28:26
Interesting opener against Colorado and our own Bill Tricia
28:32
is working on a piece about man, it's a history lesson.
28:35
But remember they they split the national title in 1990.
28:39
They did. So Bill's working on a really
28:41
fascinating piece on that. And then, you know, just the
28:44
toughness around Brent key. They got Kyle Efford back, they
28:47
got Hanes King back, they got Hanes back.
28:49
They their schedules a little bit easier.
28:51
But I'm wondering and you guys, Purdue has that rap in the big
28:54
10. Can you be more than like a
28:56
giant filler? And I think that's what we're
28:59
going to find out would detect this year.
29:02
I posed this question yesterday to Scott Dr. Man 2 freshman
29:06
quarterbacks that we believe is going to get a lot of time this
29:08
year, CJ Cart, Notre Dame and Bryce Underwood at Michigan.
29:12
This is only for this year. It's not about the future, it's
29:15
not about NFL prospects. Nothing like that.
29:17
For this year only. Who has a better freshman year
29:20
Cart, Notre Dame or Underwood at Michigan?
29:23
CJ Carr, I think well, one, he has to win both these guys got
29:27
to win the job and I think they will.
29:29
I just think CJ has more skill position receivers around him,
29:33
you know, and then you have Jeremiah Love.
29:35
Michigan's running game is going to be good around Justice Haynes
29:38
and Jordan Marshall. But I just I worry about who's
29:41
catching the football there. One of these stats I always put
29:43
out and we did our greatest Michigan players last week.
29:46
We updated that list. Michigan has not had a first
29:49
round pick at receiver since Braylon Edwards.
29:53
Think about that. That's 20 years.
29:54
Yeah. So I and I do think Notre Dame
29:58
has them improved. They have a young group of
30:00
receivers, but I think if CJ wins that job, he's got more
30:04
around them. And of course, the Michigan tie
30:05
there being the grandson of Lloyd Carr.
30:08
I don't know the Michigan pencil like that.
30:09
No, let me ask you this, Bill, my final thing for you were on
30:12
assignment last week. You went to West Virginia to see
30:15
the Mountaineers. Least that's what I came away
30:18
with from your ex account. What was up there, buddy?
30:22
Yeah, I got a story coming Monday and, you know, obviously
30:24
we know what that story is. It's Rich Rodriguez, ACT, West
30:28
Virginia. What a cool place, though, man,
30:30
I love college. Oh, it is.
30:32
And I'm a, you know, I'm a Southeast Ohio kid, but I got to
30:35
talk to Pat White and some others around that program and,
30:39
you know, the thing that makes college football special.
30:41
And I've been to Ames, I've been to Iowa City, you know, they're
30:45
not NFL market, right? And everything revolves around
30:49
Morgantown and West Virginia football and Rich Ross, big
30:53
piece of that. And he's back.
30:55
And it was fun. And, you know, I'm looking
30:57
forward to writing that store. I'm going to sit down and do it
30:59
as soon as I get this one to 136 done.
31:02
Looking forward to both of them. Bill Bender from the Sporting
31:05
News. Bill, we'll talk to you next
31:06
week about 1 to 136. Look forward to that.
31:09
Thanks for what you do for us, Bill.
31:10
Have a great week. Thank you.
31:11
Oh. It's here guys.
31:12
Thanks so much for having me take.
31:13
Care Good to talk to you Bill Bender from The Sporting News
31:16
sportingnews.com does a great job chronicling college
31:19
football. West Virginia on your bucket
31:22
list. Do you get to?
31:23
It's pretty far down right. The likelihood is not high.
31:28
Is there a Big 12 outpost you'd like to get to?
31:32
Of yes, BYU. You want to get there.
31:35
Yes, BYU, I think over Utah, but one of the two.
31:39
Not Folsom Field and Boulder. Pretty special, no?
31:43
Not really. OK, All right.
31:47
Texas Tech? No.
31:48
No. Baylor No.
31:50
Nope. K State No, no.
31:53
Kansas. No, not a whole lot.
31:56
I've been to Norman. They're no longer a Big 12,
31:59
right? That was kind of the top of the
32:02
bucket list for me, but there's not a whole lot there.
32:06
Been to Arizona State? Yeah, and didn't go very well.
32:08
Did you go to Arizona too? Did you go to Tucson too?
32:10
I thought you did. And to both of them, yeah, and
32:12
both of them did not go very well for Iowa.
32:15
No, how about, I mean, if you we know you won't leave Ankity, but
32:18
if I've. Been to Wilson Field, that was
32:20
really nice. I I had a ball there.
32:22
I'm going to guess the mountains for you.
32:24
Yeah, you know what, Probably one of the Utah schools.
32:26
Yeah, one of the one of the Utah stops.
32:28
All right, we're going to take the time out.
32:29
We come back, we're going to be joined by the way, this show.
32:32
Hey, Otani is just hanging with the wrong people.
32:35
Is there something here? I mean, should we should we
32:38
reopen the the whole bookie thing?
32:41
The The investigation needs to reopen.
32:44
It's just, it's just that's back-to-back gears.
32:46
And what Bill was talking about the material, the quarterback
32:49
for Oklahoma, he apparently sent a Venmo to his, I don't know, is
32:54
it a bookie? When he was in school, No, no,
32:55
it was a teammate. A teammate.
32:57
Allegedly, yeah. And in the, what do they call
33:01
it? The the where, where you put
33:03
what the check is for? Yeah.
33:05
What's that called? There's a, There's a.
33:07
The you just marked the transaction.
33:09
What is right? What is for the memo, The memo
33:11
part of it? Yeah.
33:12
He actually spelled out sports wagering.
33:14
Yeah. Sports gambling, Sports
33:16
gambling. He can't be that dumb.
33:17
He can't be that dumb. That's exactly what popped into
33:20
my head. What if he is?
33:22
Then he's not playing for Oklahoma at the beginning of the
33:24
seasons. Take a time out.
33:26
Hold this next Miller and Condon underway in a Tuesday.
33:29
Thanks for being with us, Iowa Sports Radio Network.
33:39
I'm Millary Condon, welcome back Iowa Sports Radio network.
33:42
Trent Condon, Ken Miller take you until 2.
33:44
Let's get right to the voice of the Kansas City Chiefs.
33:47
He is Mitch Holt of Papa John's daily Chiefs training camp
33:50
report Papa John's throughout the state of Iowa sponsor these
33:53
Mitch Trenton. Ken, look forward to today's
33:55
report. Hearing from Isaiah Pachek
33:57
before we get into that is it. I don't think this happens every
34:01
year, but back-to-back West Coast road trips to start pre
34:05
season. That doesn't happen, right?
34:08
Does not happen. I have no idea why, why it
34:11
happened, how it happened, but no.
34:13
And so this, these three days, I call them nitty gritty days,
34:18
especially this day, it's really one of the hardest days of all
34:21
camp because we're in pads 2 hours and 25 minutes.
34:24
And I just, the young guys are the new guys like the guys we
34:27
pick up as free agents when we get back from Arizona at 5:00 in
34:31
the morning. They're going, we're going back
34:32
to camp. Yep.
34:33
Going back to camp and it's like, whoa, that's like, and
34:36
then you got to practice and today was a hard practice.
34:39
So yes, it's very peculiar and not exactly the best thing in
34:44
the world because now we got to go out to Seattle 9:00 start
34:48
time and come rolling back in at 6:00.
34:50
So it affects the next week. I don't know.
34:53
Yeah, it's very peculiar. I don't remember it happening in
34:56
my 32 years prior to this one. Mitch, I remember our reports
34:59
when Pacheco a couple years ago was a rookie and they get this
35:02
guy late in the draft and here it go again.
35:04
And and you're talking about him like, well, I remember Matt
35:06
Rutgers. Is he is he going to be this
35:08
kind of back in the NFL? And yes, he is this kind of back
35:11
in the NFL. It goes to scouting, it goes to
35:13
development and it and it just shows you the way they put this
35:16
team together. They always have a plan for
35:18
everybody, even a 7th rounder. And I told you he could have
35:21
moved, transferred, and they came early days of NIL like.
35:25
And he stayed, He had two siblings that were murdered 18
35:28
months apart. And he stayed.
35:30
His family needed him. He stayed.
35:32
He was going to gut it out, be at Rutgers, do what he can and
35:35
make his money on the other end. Well, it's what he's doing.
35:37
But he had $2100 purpose yards in 22 and 23.
35:41
And then the fractured fibula last year took him out of 10
35:44
games. It's really remarkable.
35:45
He came back and he was kind of a shell of his former self.
35:49
But that shell now is back. And I shouldn't say that the
35:52
former self is back. And I asked him, you guys, guys,
35:55
about this camp in particular and where he's at, and he's
36:01
raring to go. It's phenomenal.
36:03
You know, the guys are rolling, excited to us come the season.
36:07
Most importantly, the fans here, they bring the energy out of us
36:10
and you get to see a lot of new faces.
36:12
When you went into this offseason, what were your
36:15
priorities personally? Training hard, making sure I
36:18
came back physically prepared and.
36:21
Not only that, and just mentally, physically and
36:25
emotionally prepare for what's to come this year.
36:29
Yeah, it wasn't the hard work. Physically it was.
36:32
But to do that without him, like recalibrating mentally and
36:35
emotionally would be something short of what he needed to do.
36:39
Well, he's on track. He's back, looks like his former
36:42
self. And so the teachers need to help
36:44
him out. They just can't, you know, give
36:45
him the ball like Saquon Barkley style.
36:48
They got to get some other guys to help Isaiah Pacheco.
36:51
Kareem would be that guy. Do you think, Mitch, at this
36:53
point? Yeah, he's fine.
36:56
Last year, Ken, the stat was the Chiefs were number one in the
36:59
NFL in second down and four or less, they had 13 more than the
37:03
next closest team. It's because Hunt's getting 5
37:05
yards now. He's not getting 50 yards.
37:08
And I think that's where the next gear of the running
37:10
backroom has to happen. Is that Brashard Smith.
37:13
Hopefully, Elijah Mitchell, the former 49er, would regain his
37:16
rookie form before his knee injury.
37:18
So the room is still in a a little bit of a state of flux.
37:23
So but they need some more speed.
37:26
There's going to be some pop power and no pun intended is
37:28
what we call Pacheco. There's going to be some more
37:30
power or pop in this offense from the running back position,
37:34
either on runs or on passes. Just bigger place.
37:37
They'll just grind it out, but get a 25 yard play and even on a
37:40
check down throw. So that's a that's a big part of
37:43
this season for the Chiefs if they're going to get back to
37:45
where they want to be. Speaking of that backfield,
37:47
where does Carson Steele kind of fit in in his role in this
37:50
offense? Man, you've got that's that's
37:52
guy right there. He is right at the line.
37:55
If you flip blue chalk line, he's right there.
37:58
And last year, you know, kind of the camp darling came out of
38:01
UCLA one year video game numbers of Ball State.
38:04
Yeah. And but right now he's on the
38:07
outside looking in. He's fighting to try to play his
38:10
way back in same with Joshua Williams on defense.
38:13
But, and I love Carson Steele, but he's not going to give you
38:16
the 50 yard run. He's almost a replication of
38:19
Kareem Hunt. Plow gets you 5-6, run hard.
38:22
He's not going to run away from the second or third level.
38:25
And what the Chiefs are hoping to get this year again, is some
38:28
bigger plays on plays that aren't designed to be big plays,
38:31
and those come from your running backs most of the time.
38:34
It's yesterday I had to be away. I had an appointment that I
38:37
couldn't change, I said to my. Doctor, you're at the State
38:39
Fair. I know you were.
38:40
You were. Explaining the hook?
38:41
No, I said to the doctor. He said, look at Holtis is gonna
38:44
let us know about a new special this week.
38:46
Is there any way we can push this appointment back?
38:48
So I'm 24 hours late. I mean, I'm losing sleep.
38:51
What is it I've been dying to know?
38:52
I'm losing sleep. It's in Johnston right now.
38:55
Oh, it's being developed. Yeah, it's just coming out of
38:57
R&D. They covered it up, you know,
39:00
it's like when they used to. Like Taylor Swift's album?
39:03
Yes, yes. Yes, and wait till she's got
39:07
another album coming out about the Donaldsons and Kelsey.
39:11
Yeah and she jumps on new heights and little crash every
39:13
server. In the world like.
39:15
OK, so anyway, waiting on it still got the 1299, you know,
39:19
we're, we got that, we got that cheeseburger pizza 1299, but
39:23
we're waiting on the new one to come out of the clouds.
39:26
Dropped by a drone from the Intergalactic lab in Johnston,
39:30
IA. Good stuff.
39:31
We will talk to you tomorrow, my friend.
39:32
Thanks for doing this, Mitch buddy.
39:34
See you. Yep.
39:35
Yes, Sir. Told us the voice of the Kansas
39:38
City Chiefs. That is going to set.
39:39
It's going to break the Internet.
39:41
It, it absolutely is. My my wife was getting a little
39:44
testy last night because the little wait.
39:47
Well, no, the little clip came out and she hadn't seen the clip
39:50
yet. And I said, well, here it comes.
39:52
That is all speculation, rumors. I said, sit down here.
39:55
I got you something HUD. And she's excited for Wednesday.
40:00
And she is not alone. No, no, that's for sure.
40:04
We'll take a time out, come back, switch gears, a little
40:06
baseball to kick it off with those red hot Brewers and then
40:09
Iowa State, Miller and Condon with you.
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