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Fictional Women Around the World: Kamala Khan · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha, and welcome to Stephane
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  Speaker 1: Never Told You, a production of I Heart Radio. And
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  Speaker 1: welcome to another sub sub sub subsegment of fictional women
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  Speaker 1: around the world. I'm very excited about this one. There
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  Speaker 1: are going to be minor spoilers because as we record this,
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  Speaker 1: the funale of the Disney Plus show Miss Marvel just
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  Speaker 1: happened last night, and I stayed up late to watch it.
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  Speaker 1: I put it off because I was like, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: want it to be over right, But I stayed up
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  Speaker 1: late and I was I can't, I can't put it
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  Speaker 1: off anymore. And this is Miss Marvel is one of
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  Speaker 1: my favorite comics. When I was kind of I had
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  Speaker 1: two waves of being into comics, one when I was
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  Speaker 1: younger and then one when like Marvel the m c
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  Speaker 1: U was really taking off. I got back into comics
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  Speaker 1: and I had a good friend and he just gave
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  Speaker 1: me stacks and stacks of comics that he was like,
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  Speaker 1: I think you will like these particular ones, and he
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  Speaker 1: gave me Miss Marvel and I loved it, Like that
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  Speaker 1: was probably my favorite of the ones he gave me.
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  Speaker 1: And she's my favorite character to play in The Avengers
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  Speaker 1: video game. Yeah, because she's she's very powerful, but she
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  Speaker 1: can also heal and as somebody who's sort of I
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  Speaker 1: just sort of stumbled clumsily into battle a lot of times,
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  Speaker 1: I need that healing a little bit. She also writes
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  Speaker 1: fan fiction under the name sloth Baby. She caused plays.
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  Speaker 1: She basically has a pillow pet. She calls it a
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  Speaker 1: sleeping pillow, but it's a pillow. But it's a big one.
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  Speaker 1: But da, she's just a big fan. She's a big
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  Speaker 1: fan of comic book culture. And she's very, very endearing
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  Speaker 1: and so yeah, the Disney Plus show I love did.
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  Speaker 1: It's very colorful and I think it's got a lot
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  Speaker 1: of interesting visuals. And man Vlani who plays Miss Marvel,
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  Speaker 1: who is Pakistani Canadian, she's fantastic in it. She got
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  Speaker 1: the role over WhatsApp and says she just wanted to
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  Speaker 1: meet Marvel stars. That was like her whole goal. Are amazing,
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  Speaker 1: good job. I know, I love it. She's kind of
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  Speaker 1: embodying the role. Yes, the head directors are a deal
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  Speaker 1: l R. B and Lal Falla um And it got
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  Speaker 1: a lot of praise. It was first female team Muslim
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  Speaker 1: superhero um. It has a lot of pretty great showcases
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  Speaker 1: of like mosque and Pakistani history. Um. However, as we
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  Speaker 1: discussed in our recent episode on Obi Wan Kenobi, this
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  Speaker 1: show also got a lot of review bombing bye toxic fans.
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  Speaker 1: But because that's really color are full and fun and vibrant,
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  Speaker 1: like it's you or fun, you know what? Lauren and
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  Speaker 1: I over on safer here we got a a review
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  Speaker 1: that we laughed too much when we're talking about Bob's Burgers,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, I really hope this person just
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  Speaker 1: sits and watch Bob's Burgers in total silence. The whole
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  Speaker 1: point of Bob's Burgers was a comedy. Yeah, that's funny.
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  Speaker 1: Like I don't watch many cartoons or many animations, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I know that much it was. It
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  Speaker 1: was quite a quite a funny. Reviewers like you're an
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  Speaker 1: interesting character for sure. Um. Okay, So again, I'm really
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  Speaker 1: trying not to spoil this one too much, especially because
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  Speaker 1: Samantha has not and I really want people to watch it.
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  Speaker 1: It's great, so go watch it, but I am gonna
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  Speaker 1: talk about the basics of it. And also, because this
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  Speaker 1: is the Marvel Universe, it's messy. It's messy to corral.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna I'm gonna give it my best in Samantha's
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  Speaker 1: gonna support me from the thank you all right. So
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  Speaker 1: Miss Marvel was fleshed out in and was a creation
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  Speaker 1: by writer G. Willow Wilson, artist Adrian Alfahna, and editor
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  Speaker 1: Sanna Aminats in Miss Marvel number one, though she appeared
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  Speaker 1: in Captain Marvel number fourteen. So Kamala Khan a k A.
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  Speaker 1: Miss Marvel is a Muslim Pakistani teenager from New Jersey,
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  Speaker 1: Jersey City. Specifically, and depending on your cannon, she is
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  Speaker 1: either a latent inhuman exposed to tearrigent mist or a
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  Speaker 1: human hybrid, which I guess is ultimately pretty much the
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  Speaker 1: same thing, but also, and I can't spoil it, maybe
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  Speaker 1: something else so powers wise, this also gets a bit messy,
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  Speaker 1: but essentially she has the power to manipulate cosmic energy,
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  Speaker 1: which she can harness to create solid energy constructs and
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  Speaker 1: or stretch and grow and in big in which I love.
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  Speaker 1: I love that. Basically she can ye get real big
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  Speaker 1: nice Yeah, depending on what you're watching, reading game you're playing,
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  Speaker 1: she also usually has superhuman strength, durability, endurance and speed
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  Speaker 1: and healing, and yeah, she's typically a really big fan
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  Speaker 1: of Captain Marvel specifically Uh and assumes the mantle of
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  Speaker 1: Miss Marvel, so she caused plays as as Captain Marvel.
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  Speaker 1: Her parents are Yusuf Khan and Munipa Khan. She has
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  Speaker 1: a brother named Amir and her best friend is Nakia Bahadir.
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  Speaker 1: She later becomes really close with Bruno and they have
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  Speaker 1: sort of a will they won't them. She's got a
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  Speaker 1: lot of romance going on, like a lot of suitors
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  Speaker 1: potential suitors. Um So, let's break down some of her
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  Speaker 1: different origin stories, starting with the show Uh. In the show,
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  Speaker 1: she is a huge fan of the Avengers and yes
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  Speaker 1: specifically out to Marvel. She cause places her imagines being her,
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  Speaker 1: though she does say quote a brown girl from Jersey
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  Speaker 1: is not meant to be a hero. Um So, she
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  Speaker 1: gets this family heirloom which is his Bengal, and it
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  Speaker 1: gives her powers and through various adventures she earns the
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  Speaker 1: name Nightlight, which is not the name that she wants,
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  Speaker 1: but that's the many people give her Uh. And then
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  Speaker 1: throughout the show she learns more about her family history
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  Speaker 1: and she originally added the Bengal to make her causeplay
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  Speaker 1: more representative of her, to make it more specific about
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  Speaker 1: her and her family. Uh, and it has a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the same things we've been talking about with generational
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  Speaker 1: immigrant families. UM, relationships with the mother and the grandmother,
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  Speaker 1: Kamala feeling like her parents don't understand her, UM, intimidated
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  Speaker 1: by her parents and their expectations of her. She's also
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  Speaker 1: at that point in high school when you're like getting
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  Speaker 1: into university and thinking about your future. What are you
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  Speaker 1: gonna do? Her mother did go on to support her
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  Speaker 1: even in her uh superhero activities. UM, there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: in the show about partition in the nineteen forties, the
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  Speaker 1: splitting of Indian Pakistan, and then you've got at the
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  Speaker 1: Clandestines and pre Islamic Jin's. They've got a lot around that.
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  Speaker 1: You've got racism against Muslims and Pakistani's throughout, especially the
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  Speaker 1: kind of anti superhero force in the show. UM, really
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  Speaker 1: not respecting Muslim culture at all. And yeah, we get
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  Speaker 1: to see Kamala day dreaming, trying to figure out who
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  Speaker 1: she is and like coming into her own, really coming
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  Speaker 1: into her own all right, So that's where we are.
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  Speaker 1: The show definitely left space for season two, and I
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  Speaker 1: believe there is going to be a season two because
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  Speaker 1: it was called a season finale, not a series. Finally,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, these things can change very rare. What
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  Speaker 1: do they do a thing like, you know, making her
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  Speaker 1: a bad guy somehow, I don't know whatever. You could
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  Speaker 1: be talking about something we have an episode coming up
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  Speaker 1: about that. Are sarcastic? Asside their promised So in the comic,
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  Speaker 1: she was exposed to tear gent mist and became a polymorph,
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  Speaker 1: able to stretch her body pretty much however she wanted.
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  Speaker 1: At first, she would literally transform into a younger version
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  Speaker 1: of Captain Marvel slash Carol Danver's, but realized that just
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  Speaker 1: looking like her wasn't enough to actually be a hero,
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  Speaker 1: and one of her first acts as a superhero was
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  Speaker 1: saving a girl who bullied her who was also on
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  Speaker 1: the show. And you can probably guess who I'm talking
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  Speaker 1: about if you haven't read the comics. But I haven't
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  Speaker 1: read the comics neither haven't seen the show yet, but
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  Speaker 1: I will, but out of curiosity, because I have not
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  Speaker 1: heard many mentions of the crystals except outside of Chilled.
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  Speaker 1: So are they trying to bring it? They're not going
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  Speaker 1: to bring it at all at all outside of the
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  Speaker 1: comic um the crystals being the missed. Yeah. So okay,
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  Speaker 1: So in Chilled, the miss is literally formed the crystals.
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  Speaker 1: You break it and it makes it like a thing.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm just wondering because I've never heard it outside
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  Speaker 1: of Hill and now that you're saying that's a part
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  Speaker 1: of the comics, it seems to be excluded everywhere else.
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  Speaker 1: So they did, I I think, And you'll have to
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  Speaker 1: report back. I need to watch Shield. Okay, but you'll
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  Speaker 1: have to report back because I think they do include
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  Speaker 1: that in Miss Marvel and people were like, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 1: what a big deal this is. I believe they do,
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  Speaker 1: or they include something that's it sound approximates it at least. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's what it sounds like to me. But it is
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  Speaker 1: not what gave her her power. I'll tell you that.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting mm hmmm. Okay. So in the comic, Kamala interacted
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  Speaker 1: with Danvers, though they later had a falling out, which
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  Speaker 1: also is a pretty big thing because we talked about
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  Speaker 1: that in our Kate Bishop episode. Yeah, similar, similar thing.
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  Speaker 1: Never meet your heroes, Never meet your heroes. Accepting something
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  Speaker 1: else we're about to talk about when definitely meet your heroes.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm dropping a lot of spoilers for
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  Speaker 1: future episodes. I gotta keep them books somehow, you gotta
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  Speaker 1: keep them coming back, yes, or else they're just annoyed
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  Speaker 1: because like what you're talking about, go away. They loved
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  Speaker 1: this segment, Okay, all love this segment. Come on going? Yes? Perfect. However,
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  Speaker 1: Danvers and Marvel eventually had their their reconciliation, and Danvers
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  Speaker 1: gave Kamala her blessing and they fought aside each other
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  Speaker 1: in a incursion. An incursion which does that sound familiar? Yes?
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  Speaker 1: It does, so hopefully we get to see that in
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  Speaker 1: the future, maybe Kamala and in Damvers. Oh yeah, okay, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I believe so. And that's all I'll say about that.
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  Speaker 1: I tried so hard, so hard, all right, just briefly
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  Speaker 1: in the game, which I have played a lot of,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, uh, she became in human at Avenger
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  Speaker 1: con uh and helped prepare the relationship between the Avengers.
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  Speaker 1: And this is definitely a case I've never meet your heroes,
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  Speaker 1: because everyone was the saddest and was like, kid, ain't
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  Speaker 1: not that ever gonna be fixed again your minds. Even
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  Speaker 1: the Kenobi show where Lea was like we could trust people, right,
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  Speaker 1: Everyone's like no one can you can trust no one?
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  Speaker 1: Everyone sucks. It's like that. So it did seem to
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  Speaker 1: work out for her, and she managed to kind of
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  Speaker 1: patch up the whole Avengers and bring them back together again,
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  Speaker 1: became one of the team UM and throughout the comics
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  Speaker 1: she ran with all kinds of superheroes and villains, from
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  Speaker 1: Spider Man to Wolverine to Loki to the Inventor. She
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  Speaker 1: fought alongside the Avengers, though she did resign in order
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  Speaker 1: to help the quote little People and joined a team
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  Speaker 1: called the Champions. And yeah, I love her. She's funny
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  Speaker 1: and smart and caring and very powerful and endearing. She's
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  Speaker 1: a fan, she's a fan. Yeah, I'm just happy to
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  Speaker 1: see like a more more representation to the diverse representation.
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  Speaker 1: And she's so good, she's so good that I love her. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I've had a lot of great reviews from the people
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  Speaker 1: I know and trust. Yes, yes, Well, I'm very excited
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  Speaker 1: for you to check it out, UM And if you
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  Speaker 1: haven't checked it out, listeners, uh please do so. I
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  Speaker 1: recommend it. And in the meantime, if there's someone you
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