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He Was Told He Might Not Walk—Then He Chose to Rebuild His Life | Jose Segurado (Ep 67) · Glovisor Podcast

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Speaker 1: A multiple sclerosis diagnosis forces anyone to rethink life, career,
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Speaker 1: and future. Welcome to the Glowvisor Podcast, where we explore
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Speaker 1: business growth, communication, and personal development through real conversations with
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Speaker 1: people that make an impact. Our guest is a health
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Speaker 1: and life coach, author of I Choose Life, a former
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Speaker 1: banking professional based in Barcelona who After a multiple sclerosis
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Speaker 1: diagnosis in 2014, he rebuilt his health and career. Clinically
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Speaker 1: stable without new relapses, he now helps people navigate health challenges, burnout, uncertainty,
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Speaker 1: and major life transitions. Glowvisor welcomes Jose Segurado.
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Speaker 2: Hi, thank you very much. Thank you very much for
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Speaker 2: having me. It's a real pleasure to be here with you.
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Speaker 1: Likewise. Jose, so let's begin. Please share with us a
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Speaker 1: little bit more about what you do.
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Speaker 2: Well, you have described very well my life, my experience,
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Speaker 2: what I have been through. I am a former bar
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Speaker 2: banking worker during eight years before. And in 2014, I
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Speaker 2: was feeling bad for several months. And then I went
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Speaker 2: to a doctor and I had a very difficult time. diagnosis,
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Speaker 2: multiple sclerosis with more than 30 lesions on my brain
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Speaker 2: and more than 30 lesions on my spinal cord. And
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Speaker 2: doctors told me that in six months or between six
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Speaker 2: months and one year, I wouldn't be able to walk properly.
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Speaker 2: So can you imagine what that was in my life
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Speaker 2: was horrible. And I had a really bad situation for
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Speaker 2: a time and trying to reveal myself. But then I
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Speaker 2: started thinking about my life, about rebuilding my life, because
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Speaker 2: there were things that were not working very well in
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Speaker 2: my life. And I had the feeling that something inside
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Speaker 2: of me could be working better. And if I go
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Speaker 2: through this intuition, I could rebuild a little bit my life.
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Speaker 2: And this is what happened. I changed many, many things,
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Speaker 2: and I'm going to talk about it I did many things.
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Speaker 2: I changed so many things in my life. And then
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Speaker 2: I felt much better. My situation improved dramatically. And I
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Speaker 2: had not more clinical relapses since then. And now I
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Speaker 2: help other people to deal with autoimmune diagnosis or other
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Speaker 2: challenges in their lives or major life circumstances. This is
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Speaker 2: my life right now. I completely changed my life.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's go back because, I mean, I can't
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Speaker 1: even imagine. Here you are, you're a young guy, prime
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Speaker 1: time of your life, and you go to the doctor,
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Speaker 1: and this is what you hear. You hear something that's
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Speaker 1: going to be limiting your life in about six months.
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Speaker 1: What was your initial thought, like, as soon as you
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Speaker 1: walked out of the doctor's office?
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Speaker 2: What were you thinking? Well, you know, we all have internet,
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Speaker 2: and I was Googling everything. all my symptoms. And I
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Speaker 2: had that idea in my mind that maybe they say
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Speaker 2: that it's multiple sclerosis. All the symptoms were like multiple sclerosis.
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Speaker 2: So I had this idea in my mind. But when
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Speaker 2: I went to the doctor and I did everything, the MRI,
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Speaker 2: and it showed more of 30 lesions and 30 lesions here.
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Speaker 2: And then they did the another test and they said,
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Speaker 2: you have multiple sclerosis. Wow, it was like the final
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Speaker 2: sentence that I didn't want to listen, but I had
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Speaker 2: that in my mind and I was terrified. It was
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Speaker 2: a lot of noise in my head, in my mind saying, okay,
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Speaker 2: all of your life, everything that you were dreaming about,
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Speaker 2: all your dreams, everything that you had imagined for you
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Speaker 2: in your life, everything is done. You don't have this.
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Speaker 2: this in your mind and it was horrible. And I
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Speaker 2: went back to my house and I started crying and
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Speaker 2: I had three really bad days crying and crying and
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Speaker 2: being super afraid of going to sleep because maybe next
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Speaker 2: morning I wouldn't be able to walk or maybe I
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Speaker 2: could have more symptoms or something else could happen to me.
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Speaker 2: But at the same time, when I was with a
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Speaker 2: doctor at the office, I had a little noise, a
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Speaker 2: little voice, sorry, in my head. Very, very small, very
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Speaker 2: little saying, this is not that true as he's saying you.
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Speaker 2: Because there are a lot of things in your life
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Speaker 2: that are not going good in your life. So you
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Speaker 2: need to change many things in your life. And maybe,
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Speaker 2: just maybe, if you change the things and if you
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Speaker 2: improve your life, maybe you could improve. I had these
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Speaker 2: two voices in my head. This is something very, was
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Speaker 2: something really strange at that very moment because the big voice,
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Speaker 2: the noise was very clear. Everything's going to end. But
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Speaker 2: there was that subtle voice saying, okay, maybe there is
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Speaker 2: something else that you can go through this. You can
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Speaker 2: explore this and maybe you can change something in your life.
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Speaker 2: Not everything, but maybe something. And it was a very
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Speaker 2: difficult situation during these three days because it was like
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Speaker 2: a battle in my head. But after the three days,
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Speaker 2: I said, no, no, stop crying, stop crying, or keep
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Speaker 2: on crying, but stop for a while and go through
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Speaker 2: the internet where you find that maybe you have multiple
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Speaker 2: sclerosis and maybe you find something else. And this is
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Speaker 2: what I did. I started looking in the internet on
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Speaker 2: Google multiple sclerosis, or in Spanish, sclerosis multipla. And everything
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Speaker 2: that I found was horrible. Disease, disability, not being able
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Speaker 2: to walk, not being able to have the life that
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Speaker 2: you want for you. But then I said to myself, okay,
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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that not for all the illnesses, but
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Speaker 2: for almost all the illnesses in the world, there is
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Speaker 2: someone who has improved dramatically And maybe go for it.
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Speaker 2: And then I changed the search that I did on
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Speaker 2: Google and I wrote multiple sclerosis recovery or cure. And
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Speaker 2: then not in the first pages, this is what I
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Speaker 2: needed to go deeply, not in the first pages, but
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Speaker 2: in the page 30 or 40, I started seeing cases
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Speaker 2: of people with different situations with different processes in their lives.
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Speaker 2: And I started reading a lot, all the stories of
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Speaker 2: these people. And wow, it was amazing because all of
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Speaker 2: them were so different, but at the same time, they
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Speaker 2: were really close in a way, in the way they
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Speaker 2: were thinking about their lives, their way of behaving. They
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Speaker 2: were having a relationship with their work, with their families.
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Speaker 2: a psychology and now there's something people or it said
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Speaker 2: that is something about the auto moon psychology the same
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Speaker 2: way of thinking of doing things in your life and
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Speaker 2: i was saying to myself this is interesting and i
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Speaker 2: i feel i feel myself in this in these stories
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Speaker 2: so i started reading and reading and reading and everything
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Speaker 2: was different but everything was very similar and there were
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Speaker 2: common points the diet the diet, the supplementation, the exercise,
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Speaker 2: the work. We can go step by step if you
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Speaker 2: want to walk through, to keep on talking about these
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Speaker 2: things if you want. Because there were so many things,
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Speaker 2: but at the same time, it's simple, but it's difficult
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Speaker 2: at the same time.
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Speaker 1: First of all, let's go back to three days. I
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Speaker 1: can't believe that that's all it took for you to
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Speaker 1: get over this and go to the next level was
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Speaker 1: only three days.
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Speaker 2: Three horrible days. Three horrible days, but three days, yeah.
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Speaker 1: But you don't think about it, though, because even you
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Speaker 1: did the shift. You must have some predisposition to the
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Speaker 1: positiveness anyways, because even in your search, you change your
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Speaker 1: words to be a positive outlook versus, am I no
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Speaker 1: longer a patient of this, but how do I take
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Speaker 1: control of this? And you made that shift. Now, once
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Speaker 1: you made that shift and you start to see those commonalities,
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Speaker 1: Did you start to just jot it all down? Did
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Speaker 1: you ever meet with anyone else and get their perspective?
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Speaker 2: Well, everything was so it has it was like a
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Speaker 2: kind of common sense because everything sounds so real. And
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Speaker 2: I feel so it was like a mirror. So I
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Speaker 2: was reading their stories and I was thinking, OK, this
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Speaker 2: is like my story. They have this problem with their life,
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Speaker 2: with their job, a job that they don't like, the
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Speaker 2: same way of having relationships with different people and with themselves.
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Speaker 2: We are very similar. And they did more easy or
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Speaker 2: simple things like changing the diet, changing the supplementation. And
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Speaker 2: I started taking notes of everything. And I had a
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Speaker 2: big picture of everything that I had to do from
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Speaker 2: that very moment, from the From these three days on,
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Speaker 2: I had the picture of what my way should be,
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Speaker 2: changing the diet, changing the supplementation, changing the exercise, changing
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Speaker 2: the relationships with myself and with the world, changing several addictions,
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Speaker 2: changing my work. So I had everything in my head,
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Speaker 2: but I had to do it step by step. And
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Speaker 2: that was not easy to do, but I said to myself, okay,
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Speaker 2: start from the easiest part. And the easiest part for
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Speaker 2: me was changing the diet. because it is difficult, but
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Speaker 2: it's not that difficult. It's going to a different store,
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Speaker 2: buying different things and eating different things. It's difficult because
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Speaker 2: it is, because everything that we are eating and in
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Speaker 2: the States, you can tell me that it's very difficult
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Speaker 2: to eat properly, to eat clean, to eat organic, things
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Speaker 2: like that. So if you go outside, the majority of
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Speaker 2: the things that you can eat are not healthy. But
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Speaker 2: If you want, if you do the effort, you can
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Speaker 2: do it. You can pick up different things and start
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Speaker 2: having a really different diet and change the supplementation as well,
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Speaker 2: including new things in your life like vitamin D, like omegas,
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Speaker 2: things like that. So I started doing it and in
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Speaker 2: a week, in two weeks, I started feeling differently. I said, okay,
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Speaker 2: I feel much better. And some of the symptoms that
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Speaker 2: I had started getting softer or milder. And I was
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Speaker 2: feeling much better. I said to myself, okay, if I'm
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Speaker 2: improving it, I'm going to keep on doing changes and
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Speaker 2: changes and changes. And if I improve, okay, better. And
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Speaker 2: if I don't improve, let's see what I'm going to do.
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Speaker 2: I didn't want to be in a wheelchair, but... I
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Speaker 2: didn't know. So let's go for it. Go for it.
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Speaker 2: Follow this path. And you're starting seeing results, small results,
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Speaker 2: but go for it. Go for it. And I did
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Speaker 2: it one step at a time. And I achieved great things.
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Speaker 1: So now, I mean, you have the beauty now of hindsight.
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Speaker 1: You can look back and you know all the different
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Speaker 1: steps and you know the process of all this. If
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Speaker 1: someone found out today, they went to their doctor's office,
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Speaker 1: they had the same conversation you had with your doctor,
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Speaker 1: and they walked out, what is the first thing they
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Speaker 1: should be doing?
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Speaker 2: Well, the first thing for me is to embrace the
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Speaker 2: pain as well because a lot of people are super
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Speaker 2: hard on themselves and they say, okay, I'm not going
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Speaker 2: to cry. I'm going to fight and things like that.
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Speaker 2: I don't like this fighting language about illnesses or diagnosis. No,
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Speaker 2: the first thing is to take care of yourself. Try
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Speaker 2: to let you be a little bit vulnerable with this
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Speaker 2: situations because because it's not easy at all you need
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Speaker 2: to cry you need you have to you have to
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Speaker 2: express yourself and and be sad for for a while
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Speaker 2: for one day three days a week whatever but don't
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Speaker 2: don't live after that in the in this situation in
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Speaker 2: the sadness from that sadness you need to make to
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Speaker 2: take some steps and the first step is to for
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Speaker 2: me is to change the diet to change the diet
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Speaker 2: and And to look for solutions, to look for a
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Speaker 2: team who can support you and look for solutions. My
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Speaker 2: solution is not the only solution. You need to find
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Speaker 2: solutions and to have certainty and hope. And this is
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Speaker 2: the most difficult part for me because many times, not
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Speaker 2: all of the doctors, but sometimes... the medical care system
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Speaker 2: or the doctors doesn't give you a lot of hope
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Speaker 2: or doesn't give you a lot of certainty. And I
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Speaker 2: think it's important to have something to believe in or
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Speaker 2: something to embrace when you are living this situation. It's
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Speaker 2: a very difficult time in your life.
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Speaker 1: Of course, yeah, it definitely is. Now, so now that
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Speaker 1: you went ahead and took that first step, food, which obviously,
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Speaker 1: you know, exercise, healthy eating, these are all key points.
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Speaker 1: And it pretty much carries over to just about every
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Speaker 1: illness or even everyday life, right? To improve your life.
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Speaker 1: So now you had mentioned work. What are the steps
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Speaker 1: you had to take for work?
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Speaker 2: Well, work is important because it's something that you do
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Speaker 2: on a daily basis every day. And if you don't
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Speaker 2: like it, or even if you hate it, it's not
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Speaker 2: going to be good for you, for your life, for
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Speaker 2: your soul, for your health. So there's a lot of
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Speaker 2: people doing the same thing every day, every day just
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Speaker 2: for money and you don't like it and you hate
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Speaker 2: it and it's going to have consequences in your life.
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Speaker 2: And when I was talking about the autoimmune psychology, many
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Speaker 2: times it is a little bit about that. It's doing
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Speaker 2: something because you have to do it because it's something
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Speaker 2: that the society or your family thing that you must
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Speaker 2: do or it's a good thing for you to do.
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Speaker 2: I was working in banking and it was a perfect job.
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Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that working in banking is a
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Speaker 2: bad thing. Not at all. My job was amazing. I
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Speaker 2: had the best everything. My mate, my teams, they were amazing.
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Speaker 2: But the only thing that was not good was that
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Speaker 2: I didn't like it at all. But I was doing
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Speaker 2: again and again for eight years. And I had to
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Speaker 2: look at myself, look inside of me and say the
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Speaker 2: truth to me. You don't like it. You don't want
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Speaker 2: to keep on working on something that you hate or
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Speaker 2: you don't like every day of your life. And this
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Speaker 2: is not something, this is not easy at all. And
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Speaker 2: you cannot do it. Maybe you cannot do it in
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Speaker 2: just one day or one month. I couldn't do it
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Speaker 2: in one month. I did it in one year time.
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Speaker 2: But I did it finally. And And if you find
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Speaker 2: the solutions, if you find all the things that you
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Speaker 2: like better for your life, you need to go for it.
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Speaker 2: And if you listen to yourself, to your intuition, your intuition, God,
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Speaker 2: the universe, whatever, guides you in that direction. And then
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Speaker 2: things happen and you find solutions.
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Speaker 1: Many different people have different beliefs of how they hear
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Speaker 1: that voice of how you said it. The universe, how
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Speaker 1: God speaks to us, how we should make that decision.
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Speaker 1: So to you, how was that where you said, oh, wait,
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Speaker 1: there's a little voice that's telling me. How did that
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Speaker 1: come through for you?
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Speaker 2: Well, I knew that, but I was not able to
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Speaker 2: make the step to do it. And I didn't do it.
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Speaker 2: It was a friend of mine that she was super
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Speaker 2: upset with me explaining the same story again and again.
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Speaker 2: And she sent the message to my boss. But it
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Speaker 2: was a different situation in my case. But I knew that.
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Speaker 2: I knew what I wanted to do. And I could
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Speaker 2: listen to that voice, you know. You can listen from
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Speaker 2: me that I have voices many times. This is not
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Speaker 2: that I'm crazy, but it's my intuition. And I think
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Speaker 2: I know that we all have our intuition and we
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Speaker 2: can or we must listen to this intuition. But we
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Speaker 2: have too much noise in our life. We have a
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Speaker 2: lot of noise, like social media, TV, films, whatever. It's
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Speaker 2: every day, it's constant, constant, constant. And I think, I
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Speaker 2: think it's, I believe, I know it's really important to
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Speaker 2: make time for ourselves, to spend time for ourselves without
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Speaker 2: listening to anything or anyone, just to be with ourselves,
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Speaker 2: to listening to the messages that we receive or maybe
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Speaker 2: going to sleep and from our sleeping, we receive messages
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Speaker 2: and if we listen to something, we can write down
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Speaker 2: and pay attention. to these messages. And maybe you find
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Speaker 2: answers there.
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Speaker 1: Now, how about on the family side? As soon as
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Speaker 1: you heard this, did you run to your family and embrace?
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Speaker 1: Because now you're thinking that your time is so limited.
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Speaker 1: And how did that relationship change?
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Speaker 2: Well, in my case, it was difficult for me because
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Speaker 2: I saw my parents. They were super sad. They were
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Speaker 2: crying and crying and crying. And I didn't want them
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Speaker 2: to feel bad. So... I took a little bit of
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Speaker 2: distance and I put a face of strength, you know,
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Speaker 2: saying everything is okay. This is not something good that
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Speaker 2: you have to do because this is very common with
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Speaker 2: people with multiple sclerosis and autoimmune conditions that we are
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Speaker 2: faking every time to be super strong and that everything
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Speaker 2: is perfect always. And it's not like that. This is
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Speaker 2: what I did, but it's not the proper thing to do.
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Speaker 2: I think so. I spend time just with myself and
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Speaker 2: with friends trying to try to be a little bit happy,
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Speaker 2: trying to do funny things, fun things like watching movies
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Speaker 2: and going to drink something to part a little bit,
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Speaker 2: just to don't think that much about my situation while
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Speaker 2: I was looking for, for answers, for solutions. But, you know,
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Speaker 2: I saw my family, uh, suffering that much that I
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Speaker 2: didn't want them to suffer.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a normal thing for family members to
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Speaker 1: feel that way, especially because they feel so powerless, right? Like,
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Speaker 1: what can they do?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course. What can they do? They cannot do anything. Exactly. Now,
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Speaker 2: so here you.
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Speaker 1: Are, you change your work, you change the way you live.
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Speaker 1: And what did you do after that?
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Speaker 2: Wow. So I asked for something that I don't know
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Speaker 2: if you have that in the States. It's a period
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Speaker 2: of time where you stop working. and you don't receive
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Speaker 2: the salary from your work, but you can go back
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Speaker 2: to your work if you want in a period of time,
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Speaker 2: six months, one year. I asked for three years. So
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Speaker 2: I had no job. I had no money. At that
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Speaker 2: very moment, I said, okay, what am I going to
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Speaker 2: do with my life? But at that very moment, a
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Speaker 2: friend of mine called me with an opportunity to to
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Speaker 2: work a little bit just with a little money in
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Speaker 2: a theater play and I like I do theater I'm
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Speaker 2: an actor as well sometimes like sometimes in small roles
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Speaker 2: and things like that and I was working with him
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Speaker 2: in that in that theater play and it was amazing
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Speaker 2: because I was I had plenty of free time for
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Speaker 2: myself just doing the theater thing receiving just a little
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Speaker 2: bit of money but I had time to think about myself,
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Speaker 2: about what I wanted to do in my life and
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Speaker 2: from that moment on I started doing things like researching
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Speaker 2: more and more ways to improve my health and better
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Speaker 2: my health and after that I said to myself I
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Speaker 2: want to write a book I want to express I
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Speaker 2: want to explain my story to the world just in
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Speaker 2: case someone can find a situation like their situation and
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Speaker 2: find solutions because for me it was really difficult to
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Speaker 2: find solutions it was not that difficult because I just
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Speaker 2: had to wait for three days and then started working
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Speaker 2: looking for solutions but It was difficult because you cannot
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Speaker 2: find the solutions like this. You need to go deep.
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Speaker 2: I had to go to the page 30 or 40
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Speaker 2: in Google to find something interesting. And not everybody has
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Speaker 2: the strength to go that deep to find solutions. So
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Speaker 2: I wanted to show people that another way of doing
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Speaker 2: things is possible. I don't have all the solutions, but
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Speaker 2: I have certain solutions or my solutions or my ways.
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Speaker 2: And if you find someone to give you hope, because
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Speaker 2: I know, I feel that hope is something very important
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Speaker 2: that you don't have at that specific time when you
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Speaker 2: receive the diagnosis. I think it's very important that someone
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Speaker 2: can give you this hope. And this is what it is.
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Speaker 2: Start writing. Start writing as a way for me to
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Speaker 2: express everything and express to express all of my demons
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Speaker 2: and express all of my story. And from that, I
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Speaker 2: wrote a small book explaining my recovery process. And when
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Speaker 2: I had it, I said to myself, maybe I want
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Speaker 2: to work helping other people to improve their situations. And
23:03
Speaker 2: I started checking on the internet and I found health coaching.
23:07
Speaker 2: And I said, maybe this is good for me. And
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Speaker 2: I went through this path.
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Speaker 1: So the book, I Choose Life, is mostly, or it
23:18
Speaker 1: includes all of the steps that you utilize in order
23:21
Speaker 1: to get to where you are today?
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Speaker 2: This small book is very important for me because it's
23:25
Speaker 2: my experience of, it's like my diary of where I
23:30
Speaker 2: was and how I was able to recover. And it's
23:35
Speaker 2: like a diary. And I write everything, express everything, my fears.
23:42
Speaker 2: The diet, the supplementation, the exercise, everything that I did
23:45
Speaker 2: step by step in order to recover from my situation.
23:51
Speaker 1: You've worked with different individuals.
23:54
Speaker 2: Many of them.
23:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've shared your story. Now, do you think that
23:58
Speaker 1: a lot of these steps and these instructions that you've
24:02
Speaker 1: put together in this book, can they apply to other
24:04
Speaker 1: illnesses as well?
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Speaker 2: Yeah. It's not that one diet works for everyone. We
24:12
Speaker 2: are all different and we all need to find our ways,
24:15
Speaker 2: our solutions. It's not one solution fits all. But there
24:20
Speaker 2: are general rules, general things that are important for everybody.
24:24
Speaker 2: For example, diet. Maybe you are vegan or you are
24:27
Speaker 2: vegetarian or you eat everything, meat and everything. It's different
24:32
Speaker 2: for everyone and everybody can adapt their lifestyle to the
24:37
Speaker 2: diet and find the diet for them. But we know
24:42
Speaker 2: that we cannot eat junk food every day. And if
24:46
Speaker 2: you eat junk food every day, that a lot of
24:49
Speaker 2: people do, our health is not going to be okay.
24:54
Speaker 2: So there are certain rules like eating mostly vegetables and
24:58
Speaker 2: then good quality protein, vegetable or from meat or from fish, legumes.
25:05
Speaker 2: So there are general rules. Real food, basically, not pre-cooked food.
25:12
Speaker 2: There are general rules that apply to everybody. And then
25:16
Speaker 2: we need to look at everybody very personally because we
25:21
Speaker 2: are all different and it's not the same thing for everybody.
25:25
Speaker 1: Now, you've worked with a lot of different people. So
25:27
Speaker 1: do you have a success story that you're able to
25:29
Speaker 1: share with us?
25:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yesterday or two days ago, I put
25:34
Speaker 2: a post on my Instagram account. of a woman from Venezuela.
25:40
Speaker 2: I was working with her for six months and she was,
25:44
Speaker 2: first of all, in a wheelchair. Then after the wheelchair,
25:49
Speaker 2: she was with the walker and from the walker, she's
25:54
Speaker 2: using the sticks. So for me, this is amazing. And
25:58
Speaker 2: I have this video of her walking with the sticks
26:02
Speaker 2: and I can see her face, her smile. This is
26:05
Speaker 2: an amazing story. It's an amazing story. Yeah, and I
26:08
Speaker 2: have many, many, many, many stories, many testimonials of people
26:14
Speaker 2: with different levels of recovery because we are all different.
26:18
Speaker 2: And if you are in a very bad situation, it's
26:21
Speaker 2: more difficult to improve your life, of course. And if
26:24
Speaker 2: you are in a better situation, it's better. easy to
26:28
Speaker 2: improve your situation. And everyone is different. But we all
26:34
Speaker 2: can improve certain things in our lives, certain areas in
26:37
Speaker 2: our lives. So let's jump. For me, it's very important
26:44
Speaker 2: to have the power, strength to jump into the process
26:49
Speaker 2: of making changes in our lives. It's not easy, but
26:52
Speaker 2: it's not impossible. It's not that difficult. I think it's
26:55
Speaker 2: more difficult to stay... in a bad place, in a
26:59
Speaker 2: bad situation.
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Speaker 1: If one of our listeners wanted to work with you,
27:03
Speaker 1: can you explain to us what that journey looks like?
27:05
Speaker 2: I have different ways of working with me, but the
27:11
Speaker 2: most common is the six months program. I work with
27:15
Speaker 2: them during six months and we have a session like
27:20
Speaker 2: every two weeks. So a total of 12 sessions. And
27:24
Speaker 2: in each session, we end the session with, like different
27:30
Speaker 2: tips to do to improve the different things that you
27:34
Speaker 2: have to better in your life, like the diet, the supplementation,
27:38
Speaker 2: the relationship, different things. But this is just one thing,
27:42
Speaker 2: the session and the homework that you have in the sessions.
27:47
Speaker 2: In between the sessions where the real life happens, we
27:50
Speaker 2: are in contact. If you put something into action and
27:55
Speaker 2: you find it okay and you find solutions, better. We
28:01
Speaker 2: can celebrate it together. If you have a problem or
28:04
Speaker 2: if it's difficult to put into practice, we go through
28:07
Speaker 2: it together and we try to work through that. And yeah,
28:12
Speaker 2: it's a very strong process, very heavy process. And I
28:16
Speaker 2: don't know what we are going to do exactly. I
28:19
Speaker 2: know for sure that we are going to go through
28:23
Speaker 2: supplementation diet emotions relationships exercise life work spirituality we're gonna
28:30
Speaker 2: go through everything but it's different from for everyone and
28:35
Speaker 2: it's like a surprise for both of us it's like
28:38
Speaker 2: okay let's go for it and let's gonna see what
28:41
Speaker 2: what happens and we can see patterns things that we
28:45
Speaker 2: are doing this way and it's working for us or
28:49
Speaker 2: things that we are doing in another way and it's
28:52
Speaker 2: not working for us. So it's a process. It's working
28:55
Speaker 2: hand by hand together and discovering our health and rebuilding
29:02
Speaker 2: ourselves in a way.
29:03
Speaker 1: It's a process and everyone's different, as you just mentioned.
29:07
Speaker 1: But what is like one common thing that you keep
29:10
Speaker 1: seeing that is the biggest challenge for most people?
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Speaker 2: Well, the most common situation that I see in people
29:18
Speaker 2: with a diagnosis before thinking what is going on in
29:23
Speaker 2: my life, what I can change in my life, the
29:26
Speaker 2: situation that I can see in them is that they
29:29
Speaker 2: do a lot of things that they don't want to do.
29:31
Speaker 2: They put a lot of emphasis in other people, in
29:34
Speaker 2: taking care of other people, and not taking care of themselves.
29:40
Speaker 2: a lot. Maybe it can seem to the world that
29:43
Speaker 2: they are taking care of themselves, but deeply, they are
29:47
Speaker 2: not taking care of their emotions, their needs. And this
29:50
Speaker 2: is very important. This is something that we repeat again, again,
29:54
Speaker 2: and again, And it's like when you go in a
29:58
Speaker 2: plane and they say to you, okay, if there is
30:01
Speaker 2: a problem with the flight, the oxygen masks are going
30:08
Speaker 2: to appear and you don't have to put the oxygen
30:13
Speaker 2: mask in the other person before. No, you need to
30:16
Speaker 2: put the oxygen mask on you before because you need
30:19
Speaker 2: to take care of yourself first because if not, you
30:22
Speaker 2: cannot help other people. This is very important. And we
30:28
Speaker 2: don't do it. We don't do it. And a lot
30:29
Speaker 2: of people with autoimmune conditions, they help other people. They take,
30:34
Speaker 2: they look at the priorities or the needs of other
30:37
Speaker 2: people before they're on.
30:40
Speaker 1: If listeners remember only one thing from today's conversation, what
30:44
Speaker 1: do you hope that message is?
30:46
Speaker 2: Hope. The message is there is hope that maybe we
30:51
Speaker 2: don't have all the solutions. And I'm not saying that
30:53
Speaker 2: I have all the solutions for everything. for everything, for everyone,
30:57
Speaker 2: for the illnesses in the world. But I don't have it,
31:01
Speaker 2: you know, but we can have hope. We can take
31:08
Speaker 2: the reins of our life back. We can make changes.
31:11
Speaker 2: And if we make a change, we create a change,
31:15
Speaker 2: we create a shift in our life in one direction
31:18
Speaker 2: or the other direction, we can start seeing improvements in
31:22
Speaker 2: our lives and we the next improvement, we want to
31:25
Speaker 2: go for the next improvement. And if we find light
31:29
Speaker 2: in our, there is light in our life. There is
31:34
Speaker 2: a teaching from the, I don't know which scriptures, but
31:39
Speaker 2: there is a teaching saying that the health is before
31:43
Speaker 2: the illness. And this is very, very deep. for me
31:48
Speaker 2: because when we face a diagnosis and illnesses, we want
31:53
Speaker 2: to find a cure. But maybe we don't have to
31:57
Speaker 2: find necessarily the cure. Of course, we have to go
32:01
Speaker 2: with a doctor. It's perfect. But it's not going for
32:07
Speaker 2: the cure. It's going back to the state of health
32:12
Speaker 2: that we all have inside of us. So we have
32:15
Speaker 2: the health inside of us. We need to reconnect with
32:20
Speaker 2: our health. It's not something so difficult that we need
32:24
Speaker 2: to cure or find a cure or find the most
32:28
Speaker 2: difficult drug and the most expensive drug in the world.
32:33
Speaker 2: Maybe we need to do it, but just maybe we
32:37
Speaker 2: just need to reconnect with our health that we all
32:40
Speaker 2: have inside of us. And it's not that difficult sometimes.
32:43
Speaker 1: It's a nice big reset back to your healthy state.
32:47
Speaker 2: Makes sense. Mm-hmm.
32:48
Speaker 1: Now, where can our audience connect with you? Find out
32:51
Speaker 1: more about what you're doing and continue this conversation.
32:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, the most practical and easy way to find me
32:58
Speaker 2: is through my Instagram. My Instagram is at elijovida, which
33:05
Speaker 2: is the name of my book in Spanish. You can
33:08
Speaker 2: also find the book in English in Amazon. I choose
33:11
Speaker 2: life in Spanish, elijovida. And this is the easiest way
33:16
Speaker 2: to find me. You can find cases of recovery, a
33:22
Speaker 2: lot of people explaining their situations, their life success stories,
33:27
Speaker 2: things like that. And you can connect with me and
33:29
Speaker 2: we can have a little chat about your situation and
33:32
Speaker 2: see the ways how I can help you to better
33:36
Speaker 2: your situation.
33:38
Speaker 1: We'll have this information in the description.
33:40
Speaker 2: Great.
33:41
Speaker 1: Well, Jose, thank you so much for joining us. We
33:44
Speaker 1: really appreciate your time and the value you shared.
33:47
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. It has been a real pleasure
33:49
Speaker 2: to be with you. Well, it's my pleasure to try
33:54
Speaker 2: to send this message of hope, of light to people
33:57
Speaker 2: because there are many, many things that we can do
33:59
Speaker 2: to improve just a little bit better. Absolutely. Thank you
34:04
Speaker 2: very much.
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