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10-19-26 Hour 2 - Ryan Harris/NFL Weekend Takeaways/Oh, By the Way... · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 5: Exactly right. It's also Rally House Football Monday. Rally House,
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  Speaker 5: shop every team in town. So, Ryan, let's go back
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  Speaker 5: to Thursday. I do want to get your thoughts on
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  Speaker 5: the wild college football weekend and the NFL in general, but.
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  Speaker 5: What do you think about, look, the Broncos win again.
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  Speaker 5: The storyline becomes the offense and Bo Nix and Ryan
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  Speaker 5: Fitzpatrick saying disrespectful to the position. What was your read
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  Speaker 5: on all of that?
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  Speaker 4: They won the game. That's the goal. The goal is
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  Speaker 4: to win the game. They scored back-to-back weeks now the
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  Speaker 4: most points in the first half that they had scored
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  Speaker 4: all season.
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  Speaker 2: What do you want? What do you want?
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  Speaker 4: Would you rather have it in the beginning and not
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  Speaker 4: the end? Would you rather have it in the end,
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  Speaker 4: not the beginning? Because so far, everybody's upset the way
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  Speaker 4: they win. They're 4-2. They don't look like the Chiefs, sure.
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  Speaker 4: They don't look like the 49ers, sure. They don't look
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  Speaker 4: like the Arizona Cardinals. Okay, fine, I get it. But
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  Speaker 4: they're winning games, and they're doing it as well as
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  Speaker 4: they can. And at the end of the day, you're
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  Speaker 4: a couple plays away from dominating in the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: You know, in hindsight, Ryan, I agree with you on
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  Speaker 3: many matters, and I think we were a little heavy-handed
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  Speaker 3: on this. I thought, you know, after the game, we
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  Speaker 3: came off a little too strongly and should have savored
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  Speaker 3: the win more than we did. I really believe that,
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  Speaker 3: as I reflect upon it. However, I do want to
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  Speaker 3: ask you this. Why are so many ex-quarterbacks that are
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  Speaker 3: now analysts or working in intelligence, why are they still
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  Speaker 3: so heavy-handed about Bo Nix?
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 4: One, they wish they had their talent. You know, Ryan
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  Speaker 4: Fitzpatrick wished that he had the height, the blonde hair,
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  Speaker 4: all the things that Joe, that Bo Nix has. Right.
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  Speaker 4: And they want to get viral. Look, you've got Kirk Herbstreet,
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  Speaker 4: who has not played a snap in the NFL, who
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  Speaker 4: has the top position as a broadcaster in the NFL. Right.
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  Speaker 4: And then you've got other guys like Orlovsky, who I
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  Speaker 4: like personally. I think he's a great guy. He's always
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  Speaker 4: nice in person. He's got to make some splashes. You know,
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  Speaker 4: Vince Young, who's the other quarterback from the 49ers who
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  Speaker 4: was on TV talking about the Irish this morning? Brigham Young.
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  Speaker 3: He played in San Francisco. Steve Young? Steve Young.
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  Speaker 4: I apologize.
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  Speaker 3: Hall of Famer.
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  Speaker 4: I should have remembered his name. You know, he's got
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  Speaker 4: to make his way, too. But they do see the
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  Speaker 4: game differently. They like to think that they're more competitive.
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  Speaker 4: It's like getting a guard in the NBA talking about
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  Speaker 4: shooting as if they all made every shot. It's a
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  Speaker 4: tough game, and I think Aqib Talib kind of put
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  Speaker 4: Fitzpatrick in his place. This is a guy who hasn't
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  Speaker 4: won many games, period, so what would he know what
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  Speaker 4: he's talking about?
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  Speaker 5: But you're going to get this. He played 17 years
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  Speaker 5: in the league, and I think that he's... Look, there
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  Speaker 5: is plenty of things about Bo Nix's game right now
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  Speaker 5: that need to be better. Now, they are winning football games,
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  Speaker 5: you're right. At the end of the day, they're getting
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  Speaker 5: the dubs, and that's a responsibility of the quarterback. But
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  Speaker 5: I think the point is, the Broncos could go from
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  Speaker 5: a great team to like an unbelievable team if they
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  Speaker 5: got more production consistently out of that position.
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  Speaker 4: No question. I think Bo Nix is saying the same thing, right?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the play to me that was strange, I
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  Speaker 4: don't even care about not competing on that run play.
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  Speaker 4: I care about the play that should have been called
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  Speaker 4: a fumble that was luckily called an incomplete pass. when
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  Speaker 4: the ball inexplicably dribbled out of his hands. What is happening?
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  Speaker 4: And then you get, my other thing too, you get
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  Speaker 4: the ball with a minute 47 to go in regulation,
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  Speaker 4: at home, and you can't put it away, that's the
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  Speaker 4: part that's concerning. But you've got to be okay with it.
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  Speaker 4: You've got to be okay with the growth. I don't
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  Speaker 4: care that people want 25 points and four touchdowns every
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  Speaker 4: single game, make it 28 now. I mean, come on now.
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  Speaker 4: You're going to play in the NFL. None of you
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  Speaker 4: have a work week like that where you show up
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  Speaker 4: every week and it all goes smoothly. It doesn't happen.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't happen here for the Broncos.
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  Speaker 6: I like to consider myself an amateur horticologist, horticulturist. Whatever
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  Speaker 6: the hell it is. You made a mistake.
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  Speaker 4: You're not perfect, Mos.
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  Speaker 3: Come on.
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  Speaker 6: I like to plant flowers and stuff, and then you
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  Speaker 6: watch them grow, and they get about that tall, and
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  Speaker 6: then they start to wilt and die.
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  Speaker 3: Enough about your weekend plans.
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  Speaker 6: We don't need to hear it. I'm like, what am
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  Speaker 6: I doing? I'm killing this poor little plant. Ryan, help
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  Speaker 6: me like I'm a five-year-old, please. On their two killer
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  Speaker 6: drives in the second quarter, 153 total yards.
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  Speaker 3: Badass. Outside of those two drives, Ryan, they had 15
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  Speaker 3: total yards the entire rest of the contest. First quarter,
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  Speaker 3: third quarter, fourth quarter, OT. I mean, 15 total yards, man.
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  Speaker 3: You can't tell me that's sustainable. You can't.
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  Speaker 4: Not sustainable. The defense is awesome. How about the defense?
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  Speaker 4: That's sustainable, Vance Joseph. Let's take every opportunity to talk
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  Speaker 4: about the offense and talk about the defense, who was
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  Speaker 4: down Riley Moss. Except for Riley Moss kind of got
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  Speaker 4: in there a little bit. That was strange.
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  Speaker 3: I would fire my coach and hire Vance today. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I mean, pets are tan and you still
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  Speaker 4: shut down. Look, okay, the five-year-old, it has to be
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  Speaker 4: more competitive. The Broncos offense gets comfortable. I thought Mike
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  Speaker 4: McGlinchey had his best game this season as a Bronco.
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  Speaker 4: He was really firing around. Quinn Miners, you see what
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  Speaker 4: he did.
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  Speaker 3: He's blowing up fools, dude.
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  Speaker 4: Look out, man. I mean, you see him at King
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  Speaker 4: Soopers get out the way. He might throw you out, okay?
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  Speaker 4: But you had some penalties, and you just don't have
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  Speaker 4: the focus to compete for four quarters. And I know
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  Speaker 4: it's easy to think, guys, that it's– They should be
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  Speaker 4: focused because it's a game. I went to the Avs
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  Speaker 4: game on Friday night. They were getting their tail whooped
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  Speaker 4: by the Penguins in the first period. It wasn't even close.
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  Speaker 4: You had a Geno Melkin and then a Crosby assist.
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  Speaker 4: In one minute, they were down to nothing. What happened?
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  Speaker 4: It's hard to put that focus together because they came
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  Speaker 4: back and won the game. So this is a young
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  Speaker 4: Broncos team who, by its quarterback, is not being led
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  Speaker 4: to win. Bo has to grow as a veteran, as
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  Speaker 4: a leader. And start making some gutsy plays.
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  Speaker 3: You know what? You just said something. And I think
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  Speaker 3: this is what was most disconcerting to the average Bronco fan.
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  Speaker 3: We have seen Bo in recent years not only rally
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  Speaker 3: the team, but do it in dramatic fashion. So last
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  Speaker 3: week was inverse. It was a good start and no rally.
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  Speaker 3: And that's, I think, what that puzzled and flummoxed so
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  Speaker 3: many people. And it sort of got you going, what
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  Speaker 3: is going on here? Because it was the inverse practice
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  Speaker 3: of what we're used to seeing out of Bo Nix.
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  Speaker 4: Well, Vic, you and I are both golfers. As soon
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  Speaker 4: as your driver starts working, does your putter work?
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  Speaker 3: Not always, no.
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  Speaker 4: So Bo Nix is still growing into this quarterback position.
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  Speaker 4: He really is. And you've got to give him the
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  Speaker 4: time to do that. You also haven't seen Bo Nix
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  Speaker 4: struggle in football as a parent. He just had his
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  Speaker 4: first child this offseason. And for all of us who
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  Speaker 4: return to work, It's not the same after you have
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  Speaker 4: your first kid. So I think Bo is still figuring
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  Speaker 4: out the process. I think he's figuring out how to
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  Speaker 4: communicate with Sean Payton. I think he's still trying to
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  Speaker 4: figure out who's talking to him while he's playing the game.
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  Speaker 3: Do you buy this report by Jay Glazer that Jay
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  Speaker 3: Glazer reports over the weekend? Part of the confusion is
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  Speaker 3: when Davis Webb came in, he instituted a different language
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  Speaker 3: for the play calls, and now they went back to
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  Speaker 3: Sean Payton's language. Do you buy that?
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: No, I do. I know for a fact that there
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  Speaker 4: are concepts in the NFL now, and one of them,
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  Speaker 4: you're seeing it play out in Chicago, is instead of
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  Speaker 4: showing you how smart I am as a coach, zero
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  Speaker 4: out fat to fit 5Y, Kane or 62, 5 Dover,
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  Speaker 4: 2-2 on one, ready, break. You say, hey, smoke right, Mosier,
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  Speaker 4: let's go. That's all you do. And, oh, by the way, everybody, look,
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  Speaker 4: Mosher's ready to go right now, right? You know, so, yes,
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  Speaker 4: I haven't talked to the coaches, but I do know
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  Speaker 4: that there is a huge effort, and I think Gary
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  Speaker 4: Kubiak actually started 10 years ago, to get those stupid
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  Speaker 4: play calls down to two to three words that guys
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  Speaker 4: can hear and get out of the huddle.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, let's talk about this defense. Because they are absolutely brilliant.
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  Speaker 6: And I do the thing where I go, all right, Sam,
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  Speaker 6: we got the game tied after you threw the pick.
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  Speaker 6: Whatever you do in overtime because they can't move the ball,
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  Speaker 6: don't throw another interception.
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  Speaker 3: All right, cool.
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  Speaker 6: Seahawks on three. That being said, Ryan, the defense was
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  Speaker 6: on the field for 82 plays. And I'm thinking if
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  Speaker 6: they're on the field for, let's say, this is usually
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  Speaker 6: 20 more than average, but let's say they're out there
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  Speaker 6: for 15 more than average. over the course of 13 weeks.
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  Speaker 6: That's a lot more plays on a human body. Is
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  Speaker 6: that sustainable, or does that offense have to do its
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  Speaker 6: part more so that you don't have guys breaking down
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  Speaker 6: as the season wears on because they're just on the
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  Speaker 6: field so damn much.
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  Speaker 4: They this is unsustainable and to the point I was
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  Speaker 4: shocked that in overtime the Broncos chose to kick the
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  Speaker 4: ball I mean I would have been like hey let's
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  Speaker 4: give our defense a rest they've been out here the
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  Speaker 4: whole fourth quarter you know what I mean but look
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  Speaker 4: Let's start with the names that aren't starters, because I
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  Speaker 4: think that's always the biggest thing. You had Jaquan McMillan.
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  Speaker 4: What does he have to do to stay on this
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  Speaker 4: team to be a starter, right?
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  Speaker 3: Total starter.
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  Speaker 4: You had Jadé Barron show up, actually looking like the
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  Speaker 4: first-round pick. I mean, congrats to him for growing into
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  Speaker 4: the position.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And then you've got JL Skinner, Justin Cernat. Those guys,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I know Cernat's a starter, but those guys
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  Speaker 4: played their tail off. Alex Singleton was a one-man wrecking crew, okay?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Leading the team in tackles. So the defense was phenomenal.
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  Speaker 3: Nick Benito showed up.
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  Speaker 6: Ryan, they pick up Taylor Rapp off sort of a
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  Speaker 6: scrap heap at the end of the summer, and this
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  Speaker 6: guy comes in, and he's playing good for them.
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  Speaker 4: We were in the booth, and one of us had
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  Speaker 4: to get, hey, what's that number? What's the last name?
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  Speaker 4: Where did he come from? So Vance Joseph's doing an
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  Speaker 4: amazing job. And the biggest thing about a defense, guys,
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  Speaker 4: they got to want– to be the anchor, and this
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  Speaker 4: defense does. They don't care what the offense scores. They
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  Speaker 4: know they have the chance to do something special. Guys,
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  Speaker 4: this team can win a Super Bowl with this defense,
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  Speaker 4: with the offense as it is.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it can, Ryan. That's how good they are. Honestly,
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  Speaker 3: at some point, you have to be a threat offensively.
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  Speaker 3: You can't just get into a shell if you take
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  Speaker 3: a lead. That's where you and I will disagree. I
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  Speaker 3: don't think you can run through a playoff without being
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  Speaker 3: able to counterpunch at some point. And, you know, we
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  Speaker 3: were just discussing yesterday. We were watching some of the
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  Speaker 3: quarterbacks make throws. Is Bo Nix not inclined to attempt
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  Speaker 3: those throws because his coach is telling him or his
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  Speaker 3: head is telling him? What do you think it is?
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  Speaker 4: It sounds like– it looks like to me that he
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  Speaker 4: has a coach telling him not to do something. Don't
• 12:01
  Speaker 4: think of the color blue. Don't think of the color blue.
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  Speaker 4: Don't think of the color blue. Mosher's done. He's been
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  Speaker 4: thinking about it since the first time, right?
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  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 4: And so when you go out there and when you
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  Speaker 4: coach players with fear, you play with fear. This is
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  Speaker 4: what Josh McDaniels did when he was a head coach
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  Speaker 4: here at the Denver Broncos. Conversely, Gary Kubiak said, hey, boys,
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  Speaker 4: you go out there. There are no mistakes on that field.
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  Speaker 4: If you go out there and make a mistake, that's
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  Speaker 4: on us as players, us as coaches to fix it
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  Speaker 4: on Monday. And we'll do that. You keep playing. And
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  Speaker 4: that's what Bo Nix has to do. He has to know.
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  Speaker 4: that he can make a mistake. Bo Nix can throw
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  Speaker 4: an interception and still win the game. He has to
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  Speaker 4: take those shots. I mean, the second to last play,
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  Speaker 4: Marvin Mims wide open. Throw it. Give him a chance.
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  Speaker 4: Take that risk. Try and fail. That's where he needs
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  Speaker 4: to get to.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, Ryan.
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  Speaker 5: Appreciate it.
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  Speaker 4: See you, boys.
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  Speaker 5: as we talk about the weekend that was in football
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  Speaker 5: back after this. It's a Rally House Football Monday. Some
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  Speaker 5: breaking news in the NFL. Jalen Hurts is going to
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  Speaker 5: be out for the year, according to Adam Schefter, with
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  Speaker 5: blood clots. They said they found multiple blood clots in
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  Speaker 5: his lungs.
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  Speaker 3: Who?
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  Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, it's not just in his legs, then, huh? I
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  Speaker 3: thought it was in his calf. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So they said multiple blood clots in his lungs, so
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  Speaker 5: he's going to be on blood thinners and out for
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  Speaker 5: the rest of the year.
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  Speaker 6: That's just life. That's life scary, Brett. That's not football scary.
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  Speaker 6: That is, you feel for the guy, because that's really concerning,
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  Speaker 6: and that's really, really serious.
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  Speaker 3: I can't believe he played with that, too.
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  Speaker 5: How do you know if you have a blood clot?
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  Speaker 5: What happens? I'm sure there are symptoms. Well, I think,
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  Speaker 5: maybe I have this wrong, I thought they found it
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  Speaker 5: because they played in London and then he had to
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  Speaker 5: do some sort of test or something. I don't know
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  Speaker 5: what it was. Anyway, that's scary. Very scary.
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  Speaker 3: That's human scary, yes. It was originally believed to be
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  Speaker 3: a superficial blood clot, which means it's outside, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you can see it outside the skin. It's in the
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  Speaker 3: outside part of the body. And then revealed Saturday to
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  Speaker 3: be several blood clots in the lungs. So, when it
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  Speaker 3: runs along the interior, man, that's a That could lead
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  Speaker 3: to serious disaster.
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  Speaker 5: Now, the Eagles, they had a host of issues to
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  Speaker 5: start with. This only exacerbates their problems because they are
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  Speaker 5: 2-4 right now after losing last week. But, yeah, Jalen
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  Speaker 5: Hurts out for the year.
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  Speaker 3: Now, I'm in Philly, bro.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, they're probably feeling it.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I saw a couple of folks last night. I
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  Speaker 6: guess they were done with the game. They were feeling
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  Speaker 6: pretty low. Pretty bummed out. Is Philly an.
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  Speaker 3: Eagles town, a Sixers town, a Flyers town, a Phillies town?
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  Speaker 3: What is it? Yes. No, but, I mean, what is
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  Speaker 3: the sport? What is the most prominent sport? I think
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  Speaker 3: the Eagles are one. The Eagles are one. Yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: Eagles are on everything.
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  Speaker 5: Gilberts.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Then what? Then it's got to be Sixers with
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  Speaker 3: LeBron's arrival, right?
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  Speaker 6: We drove by the link yesterday because all the stadiums
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  Speaker 6: are located in one area, and the basketball and hockey
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  Speaker 6: arena was covered in Eagles stuff.
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  Speaker 3: So, I mean, the Eagles are one.
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  Speaker 6: They're on all the advertisements on the street, the bus stop, shelters,
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  Speaker 6: and all that.
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  Speaker 3: It's all, go Eagles, go Eagles, you know, all this
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: kind of crap. Yeah, well, it's also hockey season and
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: soon to be hoop season.
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: You guys want to hear on this Rally House Football
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: Monday one of the craziest stats you'll see.
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: J.J.
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: McCarthy came in for a Jameis Winston who was benched
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: in the Giants game. McCarthy came in and damn near
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: completed a 24-point comeback.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: He looked good.
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: Well, his first pass after benching Jameis Winston for throwing interceptions,
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: McCarthy's first pass was picked off.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: But then after that, he looked good. No, he did.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: He really did.
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: Here's what's crazy.
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: J.J.
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: McCarthy in the fourth quarter against the Saints yesterday threw
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: for 243 yards. Justin Herbert's season high is 226.
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: That's an insane stat. You know, that quarter is double
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: what Bo had the last game. Well, I mean, go
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: look at the Broncos against the Giants last year, right?
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: You know, almost the opposite because the Giants were the opponent. And,
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: I mean, you know, all the numbers they put up
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: and the craziness, it's pretty insane. But Justin Herbert is
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: a broken dude. That team is a broken football team.
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: We didn't ask Ryan about that because we talk mostly Broncos, right?
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: But what a nightmare. What an absolute nightmare.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: To win games, you have to win the game.
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: Not lose the game.
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: Thank you, Mike.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: Pretty much, yeah. Okay, so let me ask you guys
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: this question regarding the NFL. What is the most surprising?
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Here we are six games in. What's the most surprising
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: team of the NFL season so far? In a good
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: way or a bad way or whatever. Surprise. The word surprise.
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: I mean, the Rams being 2-4 is shocking. The Chargers
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: being 0-6 is shocking. The Chargers.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: I think it's the Cleveland Browns being 4-2. The Cleveland
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: Browns being 4-2 is shocking. To me, that one trumps
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: all of them because nobody. I mean, they beat the Ravens,
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: and I know they didn't. But they beat the Ravens,
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: and they did it in comeback fashion. They're 4-2. Yeah,
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: I ain't laying nothing down ever again. I can promise
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: you that. They're 4-2, and they've been outscored. Nothing is
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: getting laid down. This team is four and two and
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: you're not going to believe this. They've got the worst
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: point differential in their division and they lead the division.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying, dude. Like they won last night
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: or yesterday. Sean Watson couldn't do anything. He was sacked
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: five times. He couldn't. They couldn't get a drive going,
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: but a missed field goal and a fumble in the
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: first two possessions of the fourth quarter for the Ravens
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: gifted them the only touchdown Cleveland scored.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: I don't know. That sounds familiar.
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: Well, I know. I'm just, I'm not buying Cleveland is
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: what I'm saying.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: Okay. It's fun.
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: If the Browns are 4-2 and they've got a minus
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: 16 point differential and the Broncos are 4-2 and they've
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: got a minus 11 point differential, which one's real, which
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: one's fake?
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: That's weird, isn't it?
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: Because those are both... If you say the Browns shouldn't
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: be happening, then you have to say the Broncos shouldn't
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: be happening.
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: True, but I said that for 17 games last year
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: and they won 14 of them. And the Broncos have
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: one thing that is for certain. They have a defense
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: that can stymie anybody. And just look at the opponents
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: they've played. That's why the Broncos are more believable. The
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: Broncos have done that against the league's best. The Browns,
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: they've played what? A Bucs team with, I think Baker
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: was still playing at that time, that plays against Tyler Huntley.
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: You know what I mean? It's different. The Broncos are
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: much more elite.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: The Broncos did a lot of that last year. They
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: did a lot of that last year.
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: Not this year, Moshe. I mean, look who they played
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: this year.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: You're right.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: You're right.
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: I'm just trying to, I guess the reason I'm sort
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: of spitballing out loud here is I'm trying to figure
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: out what the hell's going on in life.
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: I'll tell you.
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: I'm trying to figure out how does, how is this happening?
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: How is it happening?
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: A huge surprise for me is, and I don't know
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: if this is sustainable either. They've had, I think, the
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: second easiest schedule to start the season so far. so
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: we'll see. Do you guys buy the Vikings? That they're
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: just going to win with defense like that?
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Well, not all defenses are created equal. The difference between
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: the Denver defense this year and the Denver defense last year,
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: yards per game and all that business, Denver's defense is
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: not that great. It's not that great. If you look
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: at it, yeah, you're exactly right. Denver's defense is near
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: the bottom of the pack. It's in the third third
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: of the defenses in the NFL. The final third. That's
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: where they stand giving up yards. The difference this year
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: is they're getting the ball.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: They're getting the ball. Number one defense in the NFL, Seattle.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: 237 per game. Number two, Minnesota. 259. The Broncos are
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: up at, I mean, that's 100 yards more. They're at 348.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: Don't care.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: I know. I'm just telling you the difference.
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: In Brett Kane's stat book, the Broncos' defense is the
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: best in the world because they get zero help from
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: their offense for the whole entire game.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Well, it's not like Minnesota gets help.
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: Look, Minnesota has a rushing game. Aaron Jones is pretty good.
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: They can rely on him. The Broncos don't have that.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: They're also plus. What is Minnesota? Let me look it
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: up here.
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: They are plus 45 in point differential. The Broncos are
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: minus 11. The Broncos' defense, thank God they're forcing turnovers
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: because there might be a serious issue there. But it
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: just doesn't make any sense to me. I would say
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: to you, Brett, talk to me at Week 12, and
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: we'll reconnect on these issues. But it's going to be
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: the same thing week after week.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: I'm convinced of that. Statistically speaking, let me give you
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: another one that may surprise you. It's got to surprise you.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: Where do you think the Denver Broncos defense ranks rushing
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: yards allowed per game? Well, Vic, they were.
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: That Kansas City game is going to skew a lot
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: of stuff.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it will. But I think they're probably somewhere around 21.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: Is that right? Something like that. Second to last. The
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Cowboys have the worst. The Broncos have the second worst
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: running defense in the National Football League.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: Well, that does surprise me.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Getting up 140 yards a game.
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: That does surprise me.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: That's very shocking to hear. Considering how this defense has
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: rescued this team on so many occasions.
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: It doesn't feel that way at all.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Because stats are stats.
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: Science is a liar sometimes.
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: They tell a story, okay? Typically, they should at least
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: tell a portion of the story, right?
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: They should.
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: With the Denver Broncos, some of these stats tell no story.
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: In fact, they're contrary to what the story should be.
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: Do you see what I'm saying? They're completely contrary to
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: what we know about football and what we know about
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: the history of the game.
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: Let me ask you guys a question. Who the hell
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: wins the NFC East? Jalen Hurts is out for the year,
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: if you guys just missed it. He has blood clots
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: in his lungs. He is out for the year. The
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: Philadelphia Eagles are 2-4. The current leader of that division
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: is the Giants at 3-2-1, who just decided, we need
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: to go to J.J. McCarthy because our quarterback play isn't
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: good enough.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: Who the hell is winning that? And the Cowboys just stink.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: Who's winning that? I have no idea. Maybe Washington gets
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: hot again.
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: Jaden Daniels finds something. But Washington's roster outside of if
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: Jaden Daniels returns to like what he was a couple
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: years ago is terrible.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Do you think the Rams at two and four can rebound? Man,
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: that's tough.
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: Well, they play on the road at the Raiders this week,
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: and the Raiders actually play pretty tough.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Don't laugh at the Raiders, bro. The Raiders gave Buffalo
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: all they could handle yesterday.
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: Raiders are tough, dude.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: The Raiders are a good team. The Raiders are a
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: good team. I'm telling you, do not sniff at the Raiders.
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: You know what's crazy about the NFC? This is why
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: I think they got a shot. Did you know outside
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: of the division leaders, there's not a single team in
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: the NFC that has an above 500 record except for
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: the entire NFC North? The entire NFC North is all
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: above 500. But if you eliminate division leaders, there's not
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: another team in the NFC that's above 500.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: That is insane. That's absolutely insane.
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: The Rams are last in the NFC West.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: They're last.
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: The hell's going on here? You know, again, if you
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: guys want a really nerdy number, the Broncos, as far
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: as percentage chance to make the playoffs, they were the
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: biggest riser after last week. They increased by 12%, which,
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: I mean, you ask the question all the time, Moj.
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: Who's dropping out of the playoffs in the AFC? Who's
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: jumping back in? The Broncos right now at 4-2 after
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: that record, they're sixth in the AFC. So they're in
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: a playoff spot right now. But they're sharing a 4-2
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: record with the Jags, the Browns, the Patriots, the Steelers,
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: the Ravens. Cincinnati's 3-2, but they had a bye week.
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: So they might be four and two as well. Like,
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: you're still kind of stacked up with a whole bunch
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: of teams fighting for a certain amount of spots. One
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: thing's for sure. Who's the team that's dropping out? The Chargers. Now,
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: the Texans could be another one of those teams, but
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: they've played the last couple of weeks.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: Like, you know what's.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: Weird about Houston?
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: They do. Well, they were 0-4. Now they're 2-4. That
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: was an impressive win in London. That was impressive.
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: What has Houston been over the last couple of years?
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: A defensive team.
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: A defensive team with not a lot of offensive help
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: that turns the ball over, but the defense bails them out.
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: They are giving up a ton of points. A ton
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: of points this year. But C.J. Stroud is having maybe
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: his best year as a pro in their 2-4. By
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: the way, in that game, what a game for Travis Hauner.
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: Not only catching a touchdown pass, he had four catches
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: for 60 yards. He had that awesome pick towards the
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: end of the game that gave him the chance to
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: tie things up. Travis Hunter was awesome, and they finally
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: utilized him on both sides of the football. They really
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: haven't done that all year. But I think they're like,
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: we need some sort of spark. And man, is he
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: fun to watch.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: Well, we know that the Colts stink.
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: We know that the Titans coming off a win, they
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: still are a really bad team.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: And Houston's going to have to, they needed that. If
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: they're going to even think about it, they needed that
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: win yesterday against the Jacksonville Jaguars, and they'll get them again.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: So they'll get another opportunity, and they'll look for a
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: little help.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: So you asked the question, Vic, who's the most surprising?
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, I think seeing Cleveland at the top
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: of the standings after six weeks is pretty nuts.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: I think that's correct. To beat the Ravens the way
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: they did in comeback fashion? Very impressive.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: Who's the best team in football?
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: The Niners. It's the Niners. San Francisco. Yeah, San Francisco.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: San Francisco is the best team in football. And even
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: though Kansas City– I can say that with authority. Even
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: though Kansas.
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: City– I was going to say, is Casey up there?
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: Is 5-0 with their bye week– sorry, their bye week
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: coming up.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Or they already had it, sorry.
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: Even though they're 5-0, I feel like they still have
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: something to prove to me. Buffalo is pretty damn good, dude.
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: Buffalo is pretty good. And I know that the Raiders
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: gave them all they wanted, but they go, they beat
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: the Rams.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't think Buffalo's as good as
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: you think. I think it's KC or San Francisco, those
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: two teams. Buffalo still has its issues. You know, you
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: mentioned the bow throws and what he's not doing. There
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: was a play, and I get it. It's Josh Allen,
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: all right? It's a former rookie. I get it.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: He made a play last night. The pocket is there.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: He took one step up in the pocket but did
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: it sort of sideways. Stepped up and made a throw
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: over the middle of the field. That was an easy throw,
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: but it's that stepping up in the pocket that allowed it.
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: And it hit me as I'm watching that. Would Bo
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: step up in the pocket there, or would he run
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: to his right or left? And that's where the trouble
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: is right now. It's still that.
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: That's why I brought up, there was a touchdown. Drake
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: May had three of them yesterday. But one of the
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: touchdowns he had, it wasn't a super impressive throw. It's
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: not like, oh man, he put that in a three-inch
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: window or something. It was him just staying in a
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: clean pocket for an insane amount of time because he
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: saw that the pocket was clean. And I think just
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: the timer that goes off in Bo's head is even
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: if a pocket is clean, I need to bail because
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: my clock's up. It's like, just look at what's in
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: front of you. Like, all Drake May did, you know
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: how Tom Brady did that thing where he would take
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: a snap and literally stand flat-footed in the pocket because
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: it was clean? He wouldn't even tap his feet. He
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: wouldn't do that.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: He'd stand. He would just stand flat. Right, correct.
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: And then he'd wait for a guy to get open
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: and make a throw. And I just think Bo was
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: a little too panicky in moments like that. Now, you
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: brought up that throw from Josh Allen. I thought you
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: were talking about his backhanded flip from, like, 15 yards
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: out of the end zone in between defenders. How do
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: you do that? He did a shovel pass 15 yards
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: away with a guy in front of him.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: He reminds me more of Elway than any quarterback in
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: the league because Elway would do some stuff and go, wait,
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: what did we just see? He did stuff nobody did.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: And that's what we're seeing. You know, oh, by the way,
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: by the way.
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: Oh, by the way, is the next segment, not this one.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: I know, but here's a precursor to, oh, by the way.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: If I have another person send me comparable stats between
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: the first three years of Elway and Bo Nix and
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: try to compare the two as... You know, it's just
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: like Elway. Don't insult me. Don't insult Bo.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Don't do that.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: To the kid. Don't try to compare Bo Nix, first three,
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: to a Hall of Famer, the greatest athlete in Denver.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Don't do that. I don't care what the numbers say.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: Use your eyes. Understand the moment. Understand the situation. Understand
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: the teams they played for. Understand the games, the differences.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Don't do that. Because it's the dumbest comp I've ever seen.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: So you're here to tell me that you think Bo
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: Nix is exactly like John Elway? Is that what you're
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: trying to say to me?
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: I just don't get how people don't understand how it
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: was a different sport in the 1980s.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: It was a freaking gladiator. It was a different team.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: John never had a defense like this defense.
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: I'll tell you what. Moj, can you give me gas
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: prices today as opposed to 1980, and let's do some
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: compare and contrast on that?
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, sure. Is that accurate?
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: Is that something we should do?
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: Of course not.
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: A carton of eggs now is $ 7. It used to
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: be 14 cents in 1967.
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: You know, quarterbacks were great because they had to play
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: for survival back in the day. You had to survive
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: the game as well as play the game. Nowadays, you
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: don't have to survive the game the way you had
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: to survive the game 40 years ago. I don't think
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: that the young people of today realize that the stuff
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: that defenders can do to quarterbacks, it would blow your mind. Medieval.
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: Game of Thrones stuff, right? The mountain has a sword.
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: He's going to cut your leg off.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Yes. One more text. 5927. Talk about why Elway didn't
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: want Josh Allen, Vic. He didn't want him because he'd
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: ruin Elway's legacy. That is not true. Let me just...
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you why. Let me stand up here. Let
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: me stand up here right here. That is the dumbest
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: text I've ever read on this air. That might be
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: the dumbest thing I've ever read in radio history. Right there. Congratulations.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: No offense, with all due respect. John, look.
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: I know that it's always like revisionist history, and I
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: watched Josh Allen as a freshman. He walked into Lincoln, Nebraska.
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: He was doing the postgame show. Moshi threw five picks
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: in that game, and the first thing I said on
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: the postgame show was, that's a pro quarterback because he
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: made some throws. I was like, they're insane. Now, Josh
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: Allen turned the ball over.
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  Speaker 3: There's one reason and one reason only.
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: He turned the ball over, and his completion percentage was
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: like 54% in college. That is a red flag.
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  Speaker 1: It is.
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  Speaker 6: There's one reason and one reason only that Josh Allen
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: is not a Denver Bronco. and that is because the
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: Broncos whiffed on Paxton Lynch. And John Elway, and I
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: don't blame him, I think was, I know, hesitant to
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: draft him because what you're talking about, Brett, because you're
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: betting on the come with Josh Allen, because if you
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: whiff on two first-round quarterbacks in the span of three years,
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: you're dead.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: You couldn't afford to do that. And they signed Case
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: Keenum in the offseason as the starting quarterback. That is correct.
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: And so they went that route, the safe route, instead
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: of the, future hall of fame route hindsight is 2020
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: but that's the sole reason same reason they didn't draft
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: justin herbert they didn't want to they didn't want to
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: they couldn't afford to whiff on first round quarterbacks in
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: in those spans.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: Of years one final text paxton paxton's paxton one.
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: Final text on altitude television vick looks like he's sitting
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: on the toilet while he's on air yeah.
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: You've got a you've got a weird geometry thing going
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  Speaker 6: on right now.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: Okay i'm going to change it up right here It
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: looks like the room is slanted. What about that?
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: No.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: What about... Okay, what if I go to video effects?
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: Let's get to Oh, By The Way. Oh, By The
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: Way is next. What the.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Oh! Absolutely nothing to do with all that. By... Anime,
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Star Wars, Star Trek. The.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: The toilet suddenly shattered and collapsed beneath him.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Way.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: Are you still driving that Honda?
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, with Mosher Lombardi and Kane. Pay
• 33:48
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• 33:50
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  Speaker 2: Altitude Sports Radio 92.5.
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  Speaker 3: Ha ha ha ha!
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  Speaker 5: It's a Rally House Football Monday. Rally House shop every
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: team in town. And this is Oh, By the Way.
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: Go ahead, Moshe.
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: Brett, how would you like to get your butt kicked,
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: repeatedly kicked in the junk, yet somebody pays you.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: $ 500, 000?
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: What does repeatedly mean?
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: Well, Tennessee.
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: I'm not having any more kids. You tell me. Well....
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: You want me to help you with that? I'll do
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: it for you.
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: You got 500 Gs?
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: The Tennessee Volunteers beat the snot out of Alabama 26-10
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: on Saturday, right?
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: And so you have the AD get on the jumbotron and.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: Go, please don't storm the field. We're going to get fined.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: Don't do it. And they did it.
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: So the $ 500, 000 that the SEC in that fine imposes
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: on Tennessee goes directly to the Alabama Crimson Tide.
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: Can I ask a question? Not a single person in
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: the stands cares about the $ 500, 000 that Tennessee has to pay.
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: How can you punish somebody for a horde of people
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: just deciding we are going to... There's no amount of
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: security guards you can have that will stop 5,000 people
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: from running on the field. So what are they supposed
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: to do?
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: I don't know what you're supposed to do, but here's
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: what you are... capable of if you're.
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: Those students wait until Alabama's off the field then you
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: can do whatever you want but they wouldn't wait until
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: the Crimson Tide were in the locker room before they
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: stormed the field and all it takes is a couple
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: of zany knuckleheads and then everybody else follows but either
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: way yeah there's not enough cops there's not enough National
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: Guard you can't stop it so you just eat the
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: 500 grand and send it pay to the order of
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: University of Alabama 500,000 and no oh.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: By the way.
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: I'm tired of not talking about this. I'm watching the
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: end of the Florida State-Miami game.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: And it needs to be discussed as they cut back
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: and forth to different things before these final plays. And
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: it looked to me as if.
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: If Florida State completed the Hail Mary and went on
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: to beat Miami.
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: Why did it look like Michael Irvin's family would be
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: executed at the 50-yard line at half?
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: Dude.
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: Why does Michael Irvin look as if his family will
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: be publicly executed if Miami does not win the football game?
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: I'm going to Notre Dame Miami on November 7th, and
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: I'm sure he's going to be there. And I'm glad, actually.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: They didn't deserve to win given that call, but whatever.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: I'm glad Miami's number one. I am so happy Miami's
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: number one. It is actually the motivation needed. I cannot
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: wait until November 7th. Can't wait. The sight of Michael
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: Irvin at these games makes me vomit. I seriously want
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: to vomit.
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: It's so over the top. Nobody loves their team that much.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: Nobody.
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: Nobody does. I don't care. By the way, oh, by
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: the way, I'm looking at ESPN right now, a report
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: from Pete Thamel. They're discussing this on First Take. Texas
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: is going to give Quarterback K.J. Lacey Jr., more first-team
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: reps in practice.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: Ooh, baby. Ooh, baby. The rumors in Austin is that
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: Steve Sarkeesian's lot, his job is on the line right now.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: Two losses and his job is on the line.
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: Well, does he think that Arch Manning is responsible? And
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: I will say this, Arch Manning needs to stop. fumbling
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: the football at the end of games. He, it can't happen.
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: It's happened in both of their losses. He's had miserable
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: turnovers when they need to come up with a drive.
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: Like again, I feel bad because the hype that surrounded him,
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: it was going to be almost impossible to live up
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: to it. You know, there's few people in like sports
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: history that can, I would say LeBron is one of
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: the people that was crowned this next huge thing. And
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: he actually did it. And that's a credit to him.
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: But I kind of feel bad for Arch. There's just like,
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: he's a good quarterback. And I think that's kind of
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: where it stops.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: At least as of right now. And he's not 18 anymore, dude.
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: Isn't this his fourth year? Been there a while.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Been there a little bit.
• 38:34
  Speaker 6: Hey, oh, by the way, we had something happen last
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: night at the National Hockey League. It's the first time
• 38:40
  Speaker 6: it's ever happened in the history of the league.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: What do you think that is? All right, hold on.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: First time it's ever happened in the history of the league.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: Zamboni driver scores the game-winning goal. Yeah.
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: That did not happen, but the Florida Panthers saw Carter
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: Verhege with a natural hat trick. You know what that is, right?
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: A natural hat trick is when a guy scores three
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: straight goals without any teammates or anybody from the other
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: team scoring goals. Well, it's happened now in three consecutive
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: games because Brady Kachuk did it in back-to-back games. and
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: wins over Columbus and Vancouver on Tuesday and Thursday. Carter
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: Verhege did it in a win over Seattle last night.
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: First time in history. Now, there have been two teams
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: that have had hat tricks in three or more games.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: In fact, it was four games. It was the 92
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: Flames and the.
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: 82 Oilers, but no team has had that.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Three natural hat tricks in a row ever.
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: Damn.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: That happened last night. Yep.
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: Well, Kachuk, he did it over the week.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: Was it? No.
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: Maybe Thursday?
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: Tuesday and Thursday.
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: His one on Thursday, I think they were down two
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: to nothing in the third period, and he did it
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: all then, right?
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: Yep. That's pretty sick. Pretty sick.
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: Oh, by the way, You guys want to hear the
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: past six number one high school quarterbacks as far as
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: recruiting goes?
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: Past six? Okay, is Juju one of them? No, I
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: think he was number three.
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: He was not.
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: Mensa?
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: This last year, it was Faison Brandon. He's benched.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: Okay. The Michigan quarterbacks.
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: 2025, Bryce Underwood. He's benched.
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: 2024 is DJ Lagway. He transferred. 2023 is Arch, who
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: looks like he might get benched here sometime soon. 2022
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: was Drew Aller, if you remember, from Penn State. And
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: 2021 was Quinn Ewers.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: So what do we learn from high school rankings and
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: ratings and stars and all that? What have we learned?
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: I think it's just tough. It's tough if you're a
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: freshman quarterback because before this era, you were given a
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: little bit of grace to grow. There's no growth anymore.
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: It's like you've got to perform.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: Not only is there no growth, there's no patience. There's no, hey,
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: let's take some time to develop. everybody wants to develop
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: quickly because there's money on the line. There's money. But
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: two of those, two of those guys are in the league.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: Two of those guys.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: True.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: True.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: He's a backup in Pittsburgh.
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: And of course, Quinn is the backup to Trevor Lawrence
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: and Jackson, but, but the opposite is more true though.
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: You will get guys who are three star guys who
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: are four star guys who are on, on that radar
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: necessarily who become better quarterbacks.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: But, but you're right, Vic, but at the same time,
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: I mean, there's a lot more of them than overall
• 41:14
  Speaker 6: number one, you know, recruits.
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: Oh, by the way, did you guys see Jim Nance
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: break his wrist?
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: You know, I was going to text him. I'm going
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: to ask him right now. What happened? What happened?
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: So he's doing the game with J.J.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: Watt.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: J.J.
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: Watt's got a football in his hand. He was talking
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: about the peanut punch that everybody's learned to do now.
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: Punching the ball out, right? And he said, Jim, why
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: don't you give it a shot?
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: You lock everything in, Jim.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Go ahead.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Give that a good punch.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Hard as you got, brother. You serious? I'm serious. I
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: did not think you were going to go that hard. Okay.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: That was so much harder than I thought you were
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: going to go. But the ball stayed.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it did.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: My wrist is broken.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: Like, I'm going to knock it out of your hands.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, but anyways, you have to get that three points.
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: Obviously, credit to CBS. I was during the Bills and
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: Raiders broadcast. But here's the thing. My wrist is broken.
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: I saw a picture with his hand wrapped afterwards. That
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: was fake, right? I'm not getting got on that. That
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: was fake. I'm sure it did hurt. He had a
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: reaction of like, okay, I went a little too hard there.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: My bad.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: He may have strained it, sprained it, but break it?
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: I don't think so.
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: I would really hope not. Nelly, you got one out
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: the door?
• 42:33
  Speaker 7: Oh, by the way, Connor Hellebuck is still refusing to
• 42:37
  Speaker 7: play hockey for the Winnipeg Hockey Jets because remember he
• 42:40
  Speaker 7: requested a trade, has not been traded yet. And there
• 42:43
  Speaker 7: are some rumblings that he's going to end his holdout
• 42:46
  Speaker 7: on Friday and return to the team, but that has
• 42:48
  Speaker 7: not been confirmed. Well, in the meantime, somebody built a
• 42:52
  Speaker 7: website here called hellabucks.com that is tracking in real time
• 42:56
  Speaker 7: how much money he's forfeited while he sits out. So
• 42:58
  Speaker 7: as of now, he has forfeited almost $ 800, 000. I'm assuming
• 42:59
  Speaker 7: this is Canadian dollars. I opened this webpage when I
• 43:06
  Speaker 7: started talking. Since I started this story, he has lost $ 9.
• 43:10
  Speaker 7: He loses 45 cents every second, $ 38, 660 every day. That's crazy. Yeah,
• 43:15
  Speaker 7: our crew's been following that.
• 43:17
  Speaker 6: He's likely going to say, I'm coming back. But the
• 43:28
  Speaker 6: Jets probably will then suspend him, but then they've got
• 43:30
  Speaker 6: to pay him, and then they've got to find a deal.
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: So this is going to come to a head sooner
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: rather than later because Adam Lowry, their captain, Vic, the
• 43:41
  Speaker 6: guy that got in your face that one night.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: Remember when he got in your face, Adam Lowry? Mock me.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: He did mock you.
• 43:48
  Speaker 6: That guy says, well, if he does come back, we
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: are going to have to have some major discussions.
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: Garage door making some crazy noise. Don't ignore your garage door.
• 43:56
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• 43:59
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