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Happy Hour #224: Pride, 2026 Edition · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Smitha. I'm welcome Stuff I
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Speaker 1: Ever told you production of iHeart Radio, and welcome to
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Speaker 1: another edition of Happy Hour. As always, if you choose
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Speaker 1: to drink, what do you choose to do? Please do
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Speaker 1: so responsibly. Samantha, are you sitting on anything?
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Speaker 2: I got my bubbly water sitting and drinking.
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Speaker 1: This is very Southern of you. That sounded.
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Speaker 2: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: The Southern accent really came out there.
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Speaker 2: It comes out.
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Speaker 1: What about you? Yes, well, I have my go to
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Speaker 1: red wine for today. It's gonna be a fun episode.
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Speaker 1: I hope you never know. These Happy Hours can kind
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Speaker 1: of take some twists and turns. But we are talking
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Speaker 1: about Pride Month and some stuff around that. But before
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Speaker 1: we get into that, we do have to shout out
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Speaker 1: enjoying everything. And it's still told me. So, Yes, Samantha
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Speaker 1: you there. Okay, So, as I said, yes, this is
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Speaker 1: Pride Month here in the US, and every year that
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Speaker 1: means I have some kind of update, and I have
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Speaker 1: to say, I like a lot of stuff right now.
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Speaker 1: I feel that Pride is strange this year. I think
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of conflicting things that are happening and
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Speaker 1: conflicting emotions. So first of all, it is very joyous
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Speaker 1: and I've been happy to see some of the festivals
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Speaker 1: that have already happened some of the parades that have
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Speaker 1: already happened, and they look so happy. And then you
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Speaker 1: have the news of government's legislators trying to get rid
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Speaker 1: of Pride months in uh it's usually pretty local, but
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Speaker 1: they're trying to replace it with like things like Nuclear
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Speaker 1: Family Month. Yeah, no, it's bad, and I don't suspect
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Speaker 1: it's going to get any traction. It's just kind of
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Speaker 1: disheartening that it's it's in multiple places. They're trying to
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Speaker 1: reframe it as a like traditional white American values month,
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Speaker 1: and queer people are not involved in that. They could
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Speaker 1: never be a traditional family what. So you've got that aspect,
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Speaker 1: And then you have a really interesting conversation that's happening
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Speaker 1: right now about a lot of companies are not supporting
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Speaker 1: Pride and they're pulling up funding and so some of
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Speaker 1: some Pride festivals are not even sure they can happen.
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Speaker 1: But at the same time, we've had conversations about how
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Speaker 1: these companies are not your allies. Like when Pride first started,
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Speaker 1: companies weren't part of it, and so there's like that
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Speaker 1: kind of complication. Two, I feel personally that I've been
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Speaker 1: confronted more frequently with the fact that I'm in a
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Speaker 1: bubble with my friends who we go to drag shows
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Speaker 1: a lot, like it's just accepted and I don't think
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Speaker 1: about it. But I've had to start thinking about it
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Speaker 1: more just because I've everything's been fine, but there's been
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Speaker 1: some instances where I just realized, like, oh, this, I
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Speaker 1: don't know if this person is a cool person right
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Speaker 1: to know about this or to share this with. So
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Speaker 1: there's been that, and I did read support is still
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Speaker 1: pretty high in the US for the queer community. I'm
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Speaker 1: kind of I think because of the way news works,
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Speaker 1: I never know if I had to trust these things
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Speaker 1: or not. I don't know, I think. And also because
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Speaker 1: the way the news works, you hear the loudest are
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Speaker 1: the conservatives who don't support it, so I'm not sure.
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Speaker 1: So there's also that kind of uncertainty. So there's just
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Speaker 1: a lot of you know, back and forth going on
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Speaker 1: in my brain. But something else I wanted to talk
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Speaker 1: about today. I've just been reflecting a lot on coming
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Speaker 1: out in my own experience coming out. So you can
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Speaker 1: see our past episode on coming Out Day. I think
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Speaker 1: that will actually be really useful for this one. But
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Speaker 1: I just sometimes I have I have a good friend
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Speaker 1: who she's been on the show Katie, and she'll ask
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Speaker 1: me questions about my experience and it's very open because
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Speaker 1: I'll ask her too, and I we had a conversation
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Speaker 1: recently that just made me really certain I am not
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Speaker 1: experiencing the world is the way you are. I'm like, conceptually,
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Speaker 1: I understand this being attracted thing. Sometimes I feel it
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Speaker 1: for fictional characters if I liked the fictional character, which
6:48
Speaker 1: is some kind of form of demisexuality with fiction that
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Speaker 1: I don't know has been explored. But anyway, she was
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Speaker 1: just talking about her experience, and I thought, that is
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Speaker 1: I don't it makes no sense to me other than
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Speaker 1: I can kind of vaguely grasp the world works this
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Speaker 1: way for her. So I was thinking about that, and
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Speaker 1: then that got me to thinking about my coming out experience,
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Speaker 1: which I don't know I've talked about this before. I'm
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Speaker 1: pretty sure I never actually came out to anybody in person.
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Speaker 1: I don't think I ever like sat someone down and said, hey,
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Speaker 1: I'm actually gay and this is how I identify. I
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Speaker 1: did it on this podcast. I'm I think that was
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Speaker 1: the first time.
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Speaker 2: Did you not come out to me before? Because I
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Speaker 2: feel like I knew before you said it.
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Speaker 1: I don't think. I think I was going through it
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Speaker 1: on the podcast, and I remember, and I actually was
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Speaker 1: gonna mention this. I looked through the past episodes we've
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Speaker 1: done about asexuality just to point out how much the
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Speaker 1: conversation has changed. Kristen and Mollie talked about asexuality in
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Speaker 1: twenty I had been twenty ten because Molly was not
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Speaker 1: at the host for very long, and just by reading
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Speaker 1: the description you can tell the conversation has really changed
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Speaker 1: since then. But then I had somebody named a doa
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Speaker 1: Denzo show who was Ace and she was talking about it,
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Speaker 1: and afterwards she came she approached me and said, if
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Speaker 1: you ever have any questions, because she could tell I
8:54
Speaker 1: was like that bikes so much sense to me that
8:56
Speaker 1: that's interesting.
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Speaker 2: Why do I have it in my head that I
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Speaker 2: we brought her own because you were Ace.
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Speaker 1: I definitely wasn't none at that time. Nope.
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Speaker 2: I remember that time thinking, yeah, this is okay, and
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Speaker 2: he's very interested in this.
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Speaker 1: Obviously I thought I was in the episode. I was like,
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure, but I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Huh. In my head, yeah, you were clearly her.
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Speaker 1: No, I think it came I think it came off
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Speaker 1: as I was like looking for.
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Speaker 2: The last piece of confirmation.
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Speaker 1: Makes sense, Okay, that's why it is.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Because like I'm just remembering our whole conversation. I'm like,
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Speaker 2: I feel like none of this came as a surprise,
9:41
Speaker 2: because I feel like you were telling me how little
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Speaker 2: you liked we talked about it. Oh yeah, when we
9:47
Speaker 2: were talking about and want like having an episode about
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Speaker 2: sex and sexuality and women in sexuality in general, and
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Speaker 2: how they were very se and you were like no,
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Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, obvious, Okay, that makes sense. So
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Speaker 2: in my head, I think I had already my bad
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Speaker 2: assume slash labeled these were the things, so for me,
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Speaker 2: you would already come out, even though I guess maybe
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Speaker 2: you didn't tell me outside of that, but in my
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Speaker 2: head I felt like you did. I guess I made
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Speaker 2: that a conversation up in my head.
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Speaker 1: Well, so here's the thing. I've never sat somebody down
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Speaker 1: to come out. Yeah yeah.
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Speaker 2: Uh.
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Speaker 1: After we did that episode, that's when I started thinking, yeah,
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Speaker 1: for sure, this is probably right. And then we did
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Speaker 1: some more episodes after that, and then then I was like, yes,
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Speaker 1: this correct. So there was kind of a conversation happening
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Speaker 1: between you and me and the audience.
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Speaker 2: As you were carrying it out.
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Speaker 1: Yes, but also I might have and I probably did
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Speaker 1: say it in a conversation, but I didn't like, like say, hey, Samantha, right,
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Speaker 1: I've never ever done that in person with anybody. But
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Speaker 1: I might have said, like in passing, you know, probably
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Speaker 1: a sexual like that way I did it with my mom,
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Speaker 1: because I never came out to my mom. She knows
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Speaker 1: it because she read it in a book. But I'll
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Speaker 1: just say it now. But I've never saddered down and
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Speaker 1: said had that kind of conversation. But one of the
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Speaker 1: reasons I wanted to bring this up is because I
11:17
Speaker 1: was thinking about, you know, technically I did have this
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Speaker 1: conversation with you. It was just on the podcast and
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Speaker 1: there was a lot of people listening, and so I
11:26
Speaker 1: was just curious how the coming out conversation has changed,
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Speaker 1: because maybe now maybe now people don't necessarily do that
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Speaker 1: kind of I'm going to sit you down and have
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Speaker 1: this moment and tell you. And so I looked it up,
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Speaker 1: and you know, to no surprise, the internet has changed things.
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Speaker 1: I was at first a little surprised though that it was.
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Speaker 1: Most of the articles I was reading were positive about it,
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Speaker 1: because I thought there's gonna be a lot more maybe
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Speaker 1: don't do this in such a public space.
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Speaker 2: But.
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Speaker 1: It was. It was positive. It was like, you know,
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Speaker 1: you can find community, you can see other people's stories
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Speaker 1: and all of that. And I do think that's important,
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Speaker 1: as we've been talking about with the organization's queer organizations
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Speaker 1: across the country. You know, seeing that and hearing that
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Speaker 1: and having that community is really important. And I've told
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Speaker 1: that story many times on here, but I didn't know
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Speaker 1: a sexuality was even a thing until I was out
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Speaker 1: of college, so and it was because of this show.
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Speaker 1: So having those things that the internet provides, especially if
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Speaker 1: you come from a small town like I did, are
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Speaker 1: really important. There's also a lot of something I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: have to catch up on, just a lot of terms
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Speaker 1: and like fast moving ideas on the internet in the
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Speaker 1: queer community. So I was telling Samantha, I don't know
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Speaker 1: what this means. And sometimes when you're on a show
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Speaker 1: like this and you have a friend like Katie who's
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Speaker 1: asking you these questions. We've talked about this, we're not
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Speaker 1: you know, nobody is the like go to for any
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Speaker 1: one identity like nobody. I don't know. I know my experience,
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Speaker 1: the knowledge I've gained from researching.
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Speaker 2: But and even when there are new ones, there's always
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Speaker 2: a debate about whether or not is more advantageous and
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Speaker 2: actually does a better job and explanation, or whether it's like,
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Speaker 2: actually it takes us back and we need to reclaim,
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Speaker 2: Like there's this, Yeah, it's an ever changing flow and
13:50
Speaker 2: you never exactly know how to do it. You just
13:53
Speaker 2: got to be willing to say this is what they're saying.
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Speaker 2: Now we're going to follow with if the majority agrees
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Speaker 2: with this, especially when you're not a part of that community.
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Speaker 2: So I don't identify as a part of the queer community.
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Speaker 2: There are experiences and there are moments where I say
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Speaker 2: things that people are like, girl, but like I'm like,
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Speaker 2: but I can't attest to that. And that's not because
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Speaker 2: I'm afraid to or any of that's more because of like,
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Speaker 2: I'm more afraid to claim something just for the sake
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Speaker 2: of claiming something. You know, especially in our field, to
14:20
Speaker 2: have more marginalized titles, seems like you can speak out
14:25
Speaker 2: more sometimes. And I say this in like, just because
14:28
Speaker 2: you are doesn't mean you can't like this is just
14:30
Speaker 2: it could be like these levels of like you need
14:32
Speaker 2: to be careful and you need to be courteous to
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Speaker 2: those who have identified in these spaces, and like feeling like, okay,
14:39
Speaker 2: am I doing this just because it feels easier, so
14:42
Speaker 2: I can say I can talk about this type of
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Speaker 2: conversation as of someone who's never identified in that way,
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Speaker 2: but at the same time understanding, Yeah, sexuality is fluid.
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying any of these things. I'm not saying
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Speaker 2: things can't change, but right now, as I have never
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Speaker 2: identified it that way, I've never been attracted to these
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Speaker 2: swallowing things, so therefore I do not identify there. But
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Speaker 2: like having to be more like having to be in
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Speaker 2: this space and trying to do it correctly and doing
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Speaker 2: it in the most ally way. It feels like a
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Speaker 2: really dangerous field sometimes it does. Going around the titles
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Speaker 2: and new labels.
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Speaker 1: It does. And if you haven't read our book, which
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Speaker 1: if you should, the whole like intro is us basically
15:28
Speaker 1: saying we did our best in the year. This could
15:34
Speaker 1: be this terminology. Yeah, like maybe we don't use it,
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Speaker 1: maybe it's offensive, like well, who knows. But even as
15:44
Speaker 1: difficult as it is. I don't think being afraid of
15:49
Speaker 1: language should stop us. I'm talking about those things, but
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Speaker 1: it is scary. You don't want to mess it up.
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Speaker 2: You don't want to claim as like especially to claim
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Speaker 2: an expert in anything. Yeah one, because we say that
16:05
Speaker 2: we know a lot about it, a lot, but we're
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Speaker 2: not an expert, no necessarily in any of these things.
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Speaker 2: We do base it on our experience as a social worker.
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Speaker 2: I still say that because I'm like, you know, our
16:15
Speaker 2: whole talk was by being a jack of all trades.
16:17
Speaker 2: I can give you what I know then, but things
16:19
Speaker 2: have changed since I've been in school and since I've
16:21
Speaker 2: been in practice, so I have to backtrack and be like,
16:24
Speaker 2: this is what I know. Because, like, even the mental
16:26
Speaker 2: health space continues to grow, but in like the queer space,
16:30
Speaker 2: especially today, is like you have bad players. Yeah, so
16:35
Speaker 2: you don't know all that, but to make sure you
16:38
Speaker 2: get trusted sources.
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And that conversation is really messy too, because
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Speaker 1: you don't want to if somebody identifies that way and
16:48
Speaker 1: you'd say that, oh, you're clearly not that's not you're
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Speaker 1: not who's this is very damaging. But if they are
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Speaker 1: using it just to get in with to be able
17:02
Speaker 1: to talk about it or to I don't know, get
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Speaker 1: more queer people to listen to their music or watch
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Speaker 1: this X y Z. Then that's level. Yeah, but it's hard.
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Speaker 1: It's hard to know because you don't want to somebody
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Speaker 1: does identify that way. Oh it's just a mess. But yeah, yeah,
17:28
Speaker 1: I feel like we've gotten way off. When I was
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Speaker 1: just sorry, no, it's okay, I was talking about coming
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Speaker 1: out has changed. I'm really curious for listeners of all
17:40
Speaker 1: ages to write in about that because and we have
17:46
Speaker 1: discussed this before, but I think it's a mistake. I
17:49
Speaker 1: do probably younger queer listeners will have more experiences with this,
17:54
Speaker 1: but I think it's a mistake to say that people
17:56
Speaker 1: are coming out older and older now. So I would
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Speaker 1: be interested to hear all of those ticks.
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Speaker 2: So in your research, did you see, because what I've
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Speaker 2: new witnessed on social media is a lot of times
18:19
Speaker 2: coming out is similar to you. They're actually working it
18:22
Speaker 2: out yeah online and then coming to a point of
18:27
Speaker 2: be like oh maybe I always have been yeah, and
18:30
Speaker 2: then you have the awful comments being like maybe I
18:32
Speaker 2: need to tell you something, oh honey, Like these type
18:35
Speaker 2: of things are like come on now, let them let
18:37
Speaker 2: them handle it. But like some people are like, maybe
18:41
Speaker 2: you need to go read this, Yeah, you need to
18:44
Speaker 2: go reach this, or this is being like, oh, it's
18:47
Speaker 2: a candid experience, like.
18:48
Speaker 1: That's also.
18:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, is that one of the biggest things.
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Speaker 1: Yes, And this is one of my another instance of
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Speaker 1: something I'm like kind of conflicted about because I do
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Speaker 1: think having the Internet and having that community is important.
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Speaker 1: Clearly it helped me, but at the same time, I
19:14
Speaker 1: worry about people, especially and when you're trying to figure
19:18
Speaker 1: that stuff out, you can be in kind of a
19:21
Speaker 1: fragile emotional state, right, and the last thing you need
19:26
Speaker 1: are Internet trolls kind of delegitimizing you or attacking you.
19:35
Speaker 1: I hope that a lot of people's experiences are that
19:37
Speaker 1: the trolls are much less and it's much more supportive people.
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Speaker 1: But we know what the Internet can look like. And
19:45
Speaker 1: so this is another part of when I was thinking
19:48
Speaker 1: about how this conversation has changed, is the Internet has
19:53
Speaker 1: changed even from when I was on it, when I
19:56
Speaker 1: was having this learning about all of this, and so
20:01
Speaker 1: I worry with all of the bots we have, the AI,
20:07
Speaker 1: all of this stuff with you know, taking out queer
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Speaker 1: books from libraries and like losing that information. Having Google
20:18
Speaker 1: prioritize misinformation or disinformation because it having that information available
20:25
Speaker 1: is so important. But then if if all of it
20:29
Speaker 1: is misinformation disinformation, I'm just really a part of me
20:32
Speaker 1: that's actually scared that that's going to impact a lot
20:39
Speaker 1: of the progress we've made, especially with younger people. But
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Speaker 1: I do see people working it out online and having
20:51
Speaker 1: support or somebody say like, hey, maybe you should read this,
20:54
Speaker 1: And I guess the thing is, I hope that it
20:56
Speaker 1: goes well. I hope that it's not an unsafe experience
21:04
Speaker 1: for them, and that can that can really help. Clearly
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Speaker 1: it helped with me. And sometimes you are working it
21:13
Speaker 1: out and maybe it doesn't turn out how you thought
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Speaker 1: it would. So it's just a complicated subject a lot.
21:26
Speaker 1: I have a lot of thoughts about it. Yeah, And
21:31
Speaker 1: I also, Samantha knows that I've been going through this
21:37
Speaker 1: internalized homophobia. I've been reading a lot about internalized homophobia lately,
21:41
Speaker 1: and I didn't realize how much, Like it's what upsets
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Speaker 1: me so much about it is how much I see it.
21:48
Speaker 1: I saw it myself like oh, I was like, oh yeah,
21:51
Speaker 1: I remember having that thought, I remember thinking that, or
21:54
Speaker 1: I remember feeling that way, and it's when you're young
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Speaker 1: and to have those kinds of thoughts, being that age
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Speaker 1: is already there's already a lot going on, and how
22:11
Speaker 1: that impacts just how you behave in the world and
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Speaker 1: how you see yourself. And I'm curious if that has
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Speaker 1: changed too, but I think it has. I'm not sure.
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Speaker 1: I'm not as sure as I would like to be,
22:29
Speaker 1: but I think that it has.
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Speaker 2: You hope that it has. It seems sometimes maybe.
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Speaker 1: It seems, sometimes maybe not. And that's also like I
22:41
Speaker 1: was thinking about and getting ready to pick my fictional
22:44
Speaker 1: Woman of the Month, and I was just thinking about
22:47
Speaker 1: representation and how so much of it feels like we've come.
22:53
Speaker 1: We reached this point and then we were going backwards.
22:57
Speaker 1: So it's like only this much, so it feels like
23:01
Speaker 1: a lot of things are going backwards. I know people
23:04
Speaker 1: are still fighting, and I think a lot of we
23:08
Speaker 1: still have moved forward a lot. And the renaps that
23:15
Speaker 1: we did on gay games, it just got me really
23:18
Speaker 1: grateful for all the people that came before me and
23:21
Speaker 1: who were facing different problems and paved the way, and
23:27
Speaker 1: all the people who wrote the books and may like
23:31
Speaker 1: made that before the Internet, just to find that community
23:36
Speaker 1: and connection. And so yeah, it's just a lot of
23:40
Speaker 1: mixed feelings. But I overall people are fighting. I think
23:46
Speaker 1: it's moving forward, and right now we are experiencing a
23:49
Speaker 1: little a pushback, just like pretty much every every issue
23:54
Speaker 1: in the United States. But yeah, I think we're still
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Speaker 1: moving forward. It's just who we got to keep it
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