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  Speaker 1: Hi everybody, I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading The
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  Speaker 1: Bengals Booth Podcast, The One Step Closer to Knowing. Addition,
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  Speaker 1: as we take an in depth look at the bengals
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  Speaker 1: second preseason game, a fourteen point win over the Washington Commanders.
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  Speaker 1: Coming up radio replays, locker room comments, and postgame analysis
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  Speaker 1: from Dave Lapham. Then in this week's fun Facts Conversation,
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  Speaker 1: you'll get to know a rookie defensive tackle who is
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  Speaker 1: can see the whole episode, or it's also broken down
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  Speaker 1: into some of the most interesting clips. Now time for
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  Speaker 1: the radio replays from Monday night's game in our nation's capital.
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  Speaker 1: It is week two of the preseason, and for the
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  Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals starters, it is almost certainly their final tune
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  Speaker 1: up before the regular season opener coming up.
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  Speaker 2: In twenty days. At Cleveland.
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  Speaker 1: Tonight, they take on the Washington Commanders on Monday Night Football,
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  Speaker 1: and it is time for the pig skin to fly.
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  Speaker 1: Here at Northwest Stadium, Fourth and goal from the one
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  Speaker 1: Burrow and the shotgun Chase Brown to his left. Three
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  Speaker 1: receivers go out to the wide side right. Burrow waits
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  Speaker 1: for the football, he has it, he hands it off
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  Speaker 1: to Chase Brown and he fights his way into the
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  Speaker 1: undi for a Bengals touchdown.
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  Speaker 3: Nice job up front, Nice job by Chase.
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  Speaker 2: Brown, shotgun snap. Daniels win time.
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  Speaker 1: Now forced to scramble runs to the ten to five
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  Speaker 1: touchdown peg balling his way through traffic for a fourteen
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  Speaker 1: yard touchdown run.
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  Speaker 4: Tell you what he's clever, telling you he's a lot
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  Speaker 4: of the more talented quarterbacks in the National Football League
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  Speaker 4: now have unbelievable threat with their feet as well as
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  Speaker 4: their arm, and they can hurt.
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  Speaker 3: You many ways.
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  Speaker 1: Bengals still have their starting defense on the field. Josh
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  Speaker 1: Johnson catches a high snap. It's a handoff, a lookout
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  Speaker 1: off to the races and on his way into the
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  Speaker 1: end zone is Bill Hosky Barrett twenty seven yards and
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  Speaker 1: the Bengals run defense could not be any worse.
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  Speaker 2: In the first quarter of this game.
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  Speaker 3: Ah'm they've given up about one hundred yards of carry.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it really is crazy.
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  Speaker 1: First and goal from the five for Cincinnati. The Bengals
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  Speaker 1: go empty. Burrow to throw. His passing to the end
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  Speaker 1: zone is caught by Charlie Jones in the back right
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  Speaker 1: corner of the end zone for the touchdown.
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  Speaker 3: Nice job, Charlie.
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  Speaker 2: Clock is running.
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  Speaker 1: With nine twenty two left in the half, fourteen all
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  Speaker 1: the score, Washington has it the Cincinnati thirty. Johnson catches
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  Speaker 1: a shot gun snap, drops straight back to throw, fires
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  Speaker 1: for the end zone, hitter side shy of the goal line,
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  Speaker 1: picked up by Tyson Anderson, and he goes out of
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  Speaker 1: bounds at the two yard line.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that was an ill advised throw.
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  Speaker 1: On first and ten for the thirteen, Browning for the
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  Speaker 1: end zone.
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  Speaker 5: Tinsley with a spectacular catch on a back shoulder throw
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  Speaker 5: from Jake Browning, a thirteen yard touchdown grab by Mitch
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  Speaker 5: Tinsley against his former team.
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  Speaker 3: Tinsley ran a good route.
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  Speaker 4: Browning made an unbelievable throw, like you said, Dan to
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  Speaker 4: the back shoulder, very tight window there.
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  Speaker 3: He put it right where he had.
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  Speaker 4: To, and then Tisley makes a spectacular catch.
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  Speaker 3: Man. A lot of good things happen on that snap.
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  Speaker 2: Hartman in the gun. McNichols to his left.
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  Speaker 1: Twenty eight seconds remaining in the half, Washington has a
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  Speaker 1: couple of timeouts. Hartman throws a little intercept it leant
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  Speaker 1: to get back is Barrett Carter. He's at the twenty
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  Speaker 1: and he gets tackled after intercepting Hartman. With twenty seconds
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  Speaker 1: left in the half, Cincinnati up seven, Browning to throw.
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  Speaker 1: He's gonna fire for the end zone.
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  Speaker 5: Tinsley comes down with a football amazing gout, drowning to
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  Speaker 5: Tinsley for another touchdown twenty one yards.
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  Speaker 1: On back to back offensive snaps, Jake Browning throws a
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  Speaker 1: pair of touchdowns to a former Washington commander, Mitch Tinsley.
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  Speaker 3: How about the tap tap? How about the footwork?
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  Speaker 4: First, let's talk about Browning making an unbelievable throw. Honey,
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  Speaker 4: if you throw that ball one hundred, you can't throw
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  Speaker 4: it any better than that for Chinon to make a
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  Speaker 4: play on it.
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  Speaker 2: Now the fifty four yard try.
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  Speaker 1: The distance not a problem, and the kick is good,
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  Speaker 1: right down the middle from fifty four yards away, and
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  Speaker 1: it's smacked into the net with plenty of distance to spare.
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  Speaker 1: McLaughlin will snap it back to Desmond Ritter. He puts
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  Speaker 1: his right knee on the ground and the coaching staffs
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  Speaker 1: begin to make the march towards the center of the
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  Speaker 1: field as the Bengals will head home with a win
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  Speaker 1: and a fourteen point win tonight over the Washington Commanders,
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  Speaker 1: the final score thirty one to seventeen, Bengals ending a
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  Speaker 1: streak of seven straight preseason games without a win. Joe
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  Speaker 1: Burrow wasn't borderline perfect as he was in the preseason opener,
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  Speaker 1: but he still led the offense to two touchdowns on
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  Speaker 1: three drives, and it's worth noting that Jamar, Chase t Higgins,
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  Speaker 1: and Chase Brown called it a night after the opening possession.
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  Speaker 1: After that Burrow's completions. We're going to guys like Charlie
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  Speaker 1: Jones Andrey Yosi Vash and Taj Brooks.
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  Speaker 6: But I don't think it's any secret that we've we've
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  Speaker 6: had to play games without Team Jamar in the past.
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  Speaker 6: That's football. Guys are going to get inged up, Guys
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  Speaker 6: are going to miss in some games. I've missed games.
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  Speaker 6: That's life in the NFL. And so you need guys
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  Speaker 6: to step up, and I need reps with those guys
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  Speaker 6: at some point. And you know, in practice, we haven't
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  Speaker 6: really had that. You know, we've been healthy and Team
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  Speaker 6: Jamar have been out there and Dre's been out there,
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  Speaker 6: and so that getting reps with with Chalk and Mitch
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  Speaker 6: and Dre out there in different situations, in different positions
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  Speaker 6: and run different routes, that's very valuable.
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  Speaker 1: The starting offense looks ready for Week one, but the
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  Speaker 1: starting defense looks like a week one. The first teamers
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  Speaker 1: didn't force a punt for the second game in a row,
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  Speaker 1: allowing two quick touchdowns. The starters were on the field
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  Speaker 1: for seven and plays and allowed one hundred and eighteen yards.
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  Speaker 1: That's sixteen point nine yards per play, and nearly all
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  Speaker 1: of the damage was on the ground, as the defense
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  Speaker 1: allowed runs of fourteen, nineteen, twenty seven, and forty yards. Yikes.
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  Speaker 1: But Zach Taylor says forget about the preseason. He remains
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  Speaker 1: confident that the defense will be better because of what
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  Speaker 1: he's seeing every day in practice preseason.
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  Speaker 7: So I feel really excited about where our defense is at.
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  Speaker 7: We go and get some every day. It's tough. We'll
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  Speaker 7: continue to fix the things we can fix from the
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  Speaker 7: preseason game. We'll look at the tame NSS where its at.
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  Speaker 7: But again in praxicansm every single day love war defense
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  Speaker 7: is at. There's a lot of things that give the
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  Speaker 7: offense really hard time right now, so we'll just continue
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  Speaker 7: to build off.
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  Speaker 1: That is Zach being overly positive, sure, but there is
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  Speaker 1: some truth to what he's saying. The biggest story of
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  Speaker 1: training camp, in my opinion, is that the defense has
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  Speaker 1: looked much better. Unfortunately, it has not carried over to
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  Speaker 1: the preseason games. I think it's safe to say that
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  Speaker 1: the starting offense won't play in the preseason finale. But
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  Speaker 1: as bad as the defense has been, particularly the starters,
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  Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see if Zach sends them out
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  Speaker 1: there for a series or two. Nobody had a better
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  Speaker 1: night on Monday then wide receiver Mitch Tinsley, who spent
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  Speaker 1: most of the last two years in Washington's practice squad.
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  Speaker 1: He finished with five catches for seventy three yards and
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  Speaker 1: a pair of unbelievable touchdown grabs. I spoke to Mitch
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  Speaker 1: after the game. We're in the locker room with Mitch Tinsley,
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  Speaker 1: who put on quite a show on National TV. Let's
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  Speaker 1: start with the fact that you were one of the
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  Speaker 1: coin Toss captains coming back to Washington where you're on
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  Speaker 1: the team the last couple of years. What did that
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  Speaker 1: mean to you?
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  Speaker 8: Uh, you know, I metting odd that, you know, my coaches,
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  Speaker 8: my teammates felt that I was you know, captain worthy
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  Speaker 8: and that you know, basically leading the team or starting
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  Speaker 8: the you know, game off. So I mean it felt
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  Speaker 8: good to be out there, you know, with Corntall especially.
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  Speaker 8: I've been here for the last two seasons or been
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  Speaker 8: in Washington the last two seasons before this, so you know,
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  Speaker 8: you definitely mentioned a lot.
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  Speaker 1: For sure, Coach Taylor tries to find guys that have
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  Speaker 1: some sort of connection to the team or the city.
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  Speaker 1: Did he let you know before the game or was
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  Speaker 1: that kind of a spur of the moment thing where
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  Speaker 1: you found out shortly before the coin toss.
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  Speaker 8: I found out probably, like, you know, maybe a couple
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  Speaker 8: of hours before the game, So I mean I kind
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  Speaker 8: of knew going in, but you know, yeah, it was.
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  Speaker 9: It was.
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  Speaker 8: It was definitely cool.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Let's talk about the first touchdown catch. Coverage
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  Speaker 1: was great, the throw and the catch were better. Is
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  Speaker 1: that one of the better catches you've made in front of.
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  Speaker 10: Fans on TV?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah?
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  Speaker 8: I feel like I've made some things happen in practice
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  Speaker 8: that I think beat that, But you know, in a game, yeah,
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  Speaker 8: for sure.
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  Speaker 1: How about the second one. So Barrett Carter makes the interception,
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  Speaker 1: and twenty seconds after your first touchdown, you've got an
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  Speaker 1: other one.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, it really just came down to, you know, me
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  Speaker 8: not focusing on I think my whole focus coming into
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  Speaker 8: this season was not focusing on the past play or
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  Speaker 8: the play I had. So you know, I scored a touchdown,
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  Speaker 8: what if I dropped the pass? You know, for me,
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  Speaker 8: it's my current play and you know, Jake them goodball
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  Speaker 8: and I went up and.
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  Speaker 10: Made the play.
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  Speaker 8: So it was just about being as you know, present
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  Speaker 8: as possible. So that's that's how that happened. In that
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  Speaker 8: second part.
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  Speaker 1: I came in expecting you to be giddy, but you're
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  Speaker 1: very matter of fact, like this is what you've been
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  Speaker 1: working toward, and then you don't seem surprised that you
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  Speaker 1: put on that show.
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  Speaker 10: I really, I really don't feel surprised.
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  Speaker 8: I feel like, you know, my over my career, you know,
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  Speaker 8: I've been the guy that's been overlooked, and you know
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  Speaker 8: I'll constantly put the work in when nobody's watching. So
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  Speaker 8: I feel like for me, like I honestly feel like
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  Speaker 8: this is just the beginning for me, Like I have
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  Speaker 8: a lot bigger goals and things set out for myself
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  Speaker 8: that I want to accomplish. And so you know, this
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  Speaker 8: is a step in the right direction. But you know
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  Speaker 8: we're gonna go back tomorrow look at the thing as
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  Speaker 8: I did wrong, you know. I mean there's some things
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  Speaker 8: out there that could do better. You know, go from there.
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  Speaker 1: Joe gave you a shout out at a news conference
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  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. It sounds like he gave
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  Speaker 1: you another one on National TV tonight when he was
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  Speaker 1: interviewed on the sideline. What's it mean that you have
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  Speaker 1: impressed him?
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  Speaker 2: It means a lot.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, he's the leader of our team and you
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  Speaker 8: know him, have him believed in me, especially when I
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  Speaker 8: get in knowing that I'm gonna get open, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 8: run good routes, I'm gonna catch the ball, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 8: make plays, and he can trust me.
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  Speaker 10: I'm lable.
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  Speaker 8: So I feel like, you know, that's definitely, you know,
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  Speaker 8: a big thing, having trust with your quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: Two tds on Monday Night football.
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  Speaker 2: Not bad.
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  Speaker 1: Congratulations, bitch, thank you, I appreciate it. Tinsley has gone
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  Speaker 1: from a training camp long shot to somebody who will
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  Speaker 1: have to get strong consideration for the roster. While the
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  Speaker 1: starting defense had a rocky night, the backups performed well,
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  Speaker 1: not allowing any touchdowns on eight possessions, well coming away
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  Speaker 1: with a pair of interceptions by Tyson Anderson and Barrett Carter.
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  Speaker 1: Carter led the team in tackles with seven, and I
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  Speaker 1: caught up with the rookie linebacker out of Clemson as well, Barrett.
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  Speaker 1: That interception late in the second quarter might have been
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  Speaker 1: the biggest defensive play at the game. The Bengals had
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  Speaker 1: just taken the lead and suddenly it became fourteen after
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  Speaker 1: that pick. Talk about what you saw and jumping that route.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, So I was just just trying to just do
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  Speaker 11: my job, and my job was to hold down the
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  Speaker 11: middle of the field, and you know, I mean I
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  Speaker 11: did that, and I saw the quarterbacks Oyes and he
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  Speaker 11: was looking at the receiver. So I just had to
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  Speaker 11: use my god given ability and just you.
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  Speaker 9: Know, make a play.
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  Speaker 11: And I'm kind of mad I should have scored, but
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  Speaker 11: I'm just glad I could get the ball back to
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  Speaker 11: our offense. You know, that's really been our goal as
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  Speaker 11: a defense, is get the ball back to our offense
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  Speaker 11: and let them do what they do. So I'm happy
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  Speaker 11: that I made the play, but no, I wish I
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  Speaker 11: could have scored, But you know, I'll get that one
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  Speaker 11: back soon.
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  Speaker 1: Did you see Sam Hartman in college?
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  Speaker 11: I did, I think three years, three out of my
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  Speaker 11: four years, so played him twice that way for us
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  Speaker 11: and once when he was at Notre Dame. So super
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  Speaker 11: familiar with him. Have a lot of respect for him.
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  Speaker 11: You know, he's an ultra competitor, silent assassin. So a
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  Speaker 11: lot of respect for Sam and what he's been able
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  Speaker 11: to do. But glad I was able to make the play.
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  Speaker 1: Was that helpful at all? Having faced him before? Does
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  Speaker 1: it help you read that in any way?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I kind of remember playing him in college.
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  Speaker 11: You're like taking notes about him in college and watching
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  Speaker 11: film and you know a lot of the stuff translated.
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  Speaker 11: So like, at the end of the day, I was
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  Speaker 11: just trying to just do my job and thankfully that
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  Speaker 11: ended up me making the play. So but definitely helped
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  Speaker 11: that I played him for three years in college.
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  Speaker 1: A Bengals scout told me they thought you were the
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  Speaker 1: best coverage linebacker in the draft this year, and obviously
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  Speaker 1: you made that play. Do you feel like that that's
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  Speaker 1: something that you can contribute to this team right away
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  Speaker 1: as a rookie.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean that's not up to me to decide.
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  Speaker 11: I'm just trying to come in every day and just
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  Speaker 11: get one percent better. You know whatever, whatever my role
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  Speaker 11: looks like for this team, I can live with the results,
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  Speaker 11: knowing that I pay the price. I worked my tail
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  Speaker 11: off to get here, So, you know, whatever my role
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  Speaker 11: looks like for this team, I can live with the results.
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  Speaker 11: But I just want to help us win games. Whatever
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  Speaker 11: that looks like for me, I'm okay with it.
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  Speaker 1: I think you had the most tackles tonight as well.
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  Speaker 1: How'd you feel about the game and training camp to
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  Speaker 1: this point?
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  Speaker 11: I felt sorry about the game, you know, defense, I
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  Speaker 11: feel like we started off kind of slow, so we
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  Speaker 11: gotta we gotta find a way to start off faster.
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  Speaker 11: But you know, training camp has been very good. No,
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  Speaker 11: definitely no where where we need to be, but you know,
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  Speaker 11: we're getting We're on the incline. We're getting one percent
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  Speaker 11: better every single day, and that's been Zach's message to us,
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  Speaker 11: That's been AG's message to us. Just try to just
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  Speaker 11: stack days and one percent better. So I'm happy with
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  Speaker 11: you know what we've been able to do in camp
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  Speaker 11: so far, but nowhere satisfied.
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  Speaker 9: We got to just keep stacking days.
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  Speaker 1: To save the ball after a preseason.
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  Speaker 11: Pick, absolutely, I just I asked him where it was.
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  Speaker 11: They said, I'll get it tomorrow. So looking forward to,
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  Speaker 11: you know, keeping that in my house forever whenever I
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  Speaker 11: get a house.
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  Speaker 9: But definitely save that ball.
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  Speaker 1: Congrats time the pick and the win.
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  Speaker 9: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be a quick turnaround. As the Bengals
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  Speaker 1: play their final preseason game on Saturday after noon at
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• 16:44
  Speaker 1: fifty three man roster, raft or performance like that, some
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: other NFL teams are going to be temp.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: Oh there's no doubt.
• 16:49
  Speaker 12: I mean, And the one thing you know for sures,
• 16:52
  Speaker 12: NFL scouting departments, management teams, they're watching, they're scouring, you know,
• 16:57
  Speaker 12: being taped, trying to find ways to prove their football team,
• 17:01
  Speaker 12: whether it be by trade, trading for a veteran player
• 17:04
  Speaker 12: picking up somebody, a team, let's go, and yeah, they
• 17:08
  Speaker 12: didn't have to make a decision. I think he's making
• 17:13
  Speaker 12: the decisions easy for him. I mean, I think he's
• 17:15
  Speaker 12: playing at a really high level, doing a lot of
• 17:17
  Speaker 12: really good things for him. So I think he's made
• 17:20
  Speaker 12: the team. That's just a matter of who hasn't.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Those were great catches and great throws by Jake Browning.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Jake was not pleased with his own performance in Philly,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: but he was terrific tonight.
• 17:33
  Speaker 12: He was and getting a little treatment in the locker
• 17:37
  Speaker 12: room and the training after the game. I don't know
• 17:39
  Speaker 12: his shoulder or what they were working on, but I
• 17:41
  Speaker 12: mean he threw the ball I thought exceptionally well. He
• 17:44
  Speaker 12: was very accurate. I had velocity on it, had touch
• 17:48
  Speaker 12: on it. Everything he needed to do to make completions
• 17:51
  Speaker 12: he did. I thought Washington had a decent group of
• 17:55
  Speaker 12: players in the secondary, and I thought he made them
• 17:58
  Speaker 12: look bad at times.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Al Golden is emphasizing getting takeaways. Unfortunately, the first team
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: defense didn't play very well. But once the second teamers
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: were in there, Tyson Anderson and Barrett Carter came up
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: with huge picks.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: They did.
• 18:11
  Speaker 12: They made big plays, and you know, they know that
• 18:14
  Speaker 12: that's what they have to do. They know when they
• 18:16
  Speaker 12: get their opportunity to go out there and then try
• 18:18
  Speaker 12: to get something done that they need to do exactly
• 18:20
  Speaker 12: that they need to show up and they need to
• 18:22
  Speaker 12: show up on the stat sheet. They need to show
• 18:24
  Speaker 12: up on the on the film as coaches and teammates
• 18:27
  Speaker 12: and everybody's watching that and they have to They know
• 18:30
  Speaker 12: that they want to make it a clear Cup decision,
• 18:33
  Speaker 12: not you know, win at the at a photo finish.
• 18:37
  Speaker 12: They want to make sure that they've got a spot
• 18:39
  Speaker 12: on the on the roster.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: We said at the beginning of the broadcast, the defense
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: has practiced pretty well by and large, didn't look very
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: good against Philly. We hoped it would look better in
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: the game tonight, and unfortunately the first team defense really struggled.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: What's the concern level at this point after basically four
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: preseason drives.
• 18:59
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean it's hasn't been productive enough, that's for sure.
• 19:02
  Speaker 12: I mean, you know, you don't necessarily have to have
• 19:07
  Speaker 12: takeaways and stops on every single possession, but you know,
• 19:10
  Speaker 12: at some point show that there's a light at the
• 19:13
  Speaker 12: end of the tunnel that you know you're going to
• 19:16
  Speaker 12: be able to keep people out of the end zone,
• 19:17
  Speaker 12: You're going to be able to keep people from attempting
• 19:19
  Speaker 12: you know, very chip show a makable field goals. I mean,
• 19:22
  Speaker 12: the percentage of the drives against the first team defense
• 19:27
  Speaker 12: and the points scored off of those drives is Astronautal,
• 19:31
  Speaker 12: it's somebody as Haigen yet, so I know, Al Golden's
• 19:34
  Speaker 12: got to be there's going to be some concern there.
• 19:37
  Speaker 12: I don't think there's panic, but I think there's got
• 19:39
  Speaker 12: to be some concern, and they have to get their
• 19:41
  Speaker 12: nose to the grindstone collectively and do something about it
• 19:44
  Speaker 12: remedy it.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: I have not heard why Lucas Patrick exited the game
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: fairly early tonight. Jalen Rivers logged a lot of snaps
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: at right guard. He has been practicing at guard for
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: the last week or so. Dalton Reisner is coming in
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: for a visit tomorrow. This right guard situation is getting
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: very intriguing.
• 20:03
  Speaker 12: It is it is. I mean, I think it's something
• 20:05
  Speaker 12: that from an organizational standpoint and coaching staff standpoint, when
• 20:10
  Speaker 12: they have meetings, that's a topic of discussion. It's probably
• 20:13
  Speaker 12: very high in the list, if not number one on
• 20:15
  Speaker 12: the list. So they're talking about options that they had
• 20:18
  Speaker 12: there currently on the roster or options that might be
• 20:23
  Speaker 12: out there in terms of you know, waver wire for
• 20:27
  Speaker 12: a veteran understrict you know, an unrestricted free agent that's
• 20:32
  Speaker 12: that's let go. It's a way by his football team,
• 20:35
  Speaker 12: or a rookie that was drafted this way by his
• 20:37
  Speaker 12: football team. So in the next few days, it's going
• 20:41
  Speaker 12: to be interesting to see what kind of metamorphosis there is,
• 20:43
  Speaker 12: if any, with the roster based on the ways that
• 20:46
  Speaker 12: they have to you know, obtain players and make decisions
• 20:50
  Speaker 12: and let other ones go. And I don't think they're
• 20:54
  Speaker 12: going to be shy or bashful about trying to make
• 20:56
  Speaker 12: this team is as trong as they possibly can.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: From a depth down time and offensive line depth is
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: becoming a bigger and vigrantycern. Cordell Bowlson dealing with a
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: shoulder issue, Cody Ford has been out for a few days.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: There have been other guys banged up on the old line,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: dult Reisner, nothing else would certainly help the depth.
• 21:13
  Speaker 12: No, no doubt. I think he's going to be a
• 21:15
  Speaker 12: sight for sore eyes when he shows up. I think,
• 21:18
  Speaker 12: you know, they you can always use another offensive lineman
• 21:22
  Speaker 12: that's got the experience that he does and his competed
• 21:26
  Speaker 12: in as many games as he has, you know, with
• 21:28
  Speaker 12: your offensive line no matter what team you are. So
• 21:31
  Speaker 12: I think that st'll it will be greeted with open
• 21:35
  Speaker 12: arms by my coaches and management.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Team hadn't won a preseason game in a couple of years.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: You talked to Zach Taylor after the game. Did you
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: get the sense that a win was meaningful even though
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: it doesn't count the standings?
• 21:47
  Speaker 9: I do. I do.
• 21:48
  Speaker 12: He seemed very happy, almost ecstatic really, And you know,
• 21:51
  Speaker 12: I was having a real good time with the other
• 21:53
  Speaker 12: coaches and the players in the locker room, and he said,
• 21:56
  Speaker 12: you know, it's important to establish an earning habit and
• 22:00
  Speaker 12: hadn't gotten that done for a while in the preseason.
• 22:02
  Speaker 12: He'll carry over. That carries over to the regular season.
• 22:05
  Speaker 12: So hopefully if they finished with two wins at the
• 22:10
  Speaker 12: end of the preseason, will carry over to a fast start,
• 22:12
  Speaker 12: because obviously that's something that's plagued them the last couple
• 22:15
  Speaker 12: of years.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow wanted to play in the preseason. We assume
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: he's not going to play against the Colts, but he
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: was in there for five or four series, three touchdown drives.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Very successful preseason for Joe and for the first team offense.
• 22:28
  Speaker 12: I agree, you know, I think when they decided that
• 22:32
  Speaker 12: what they were going to do and how much they
• 22:33
  Speaker 12: were going to play Joe and what they were going
• 22:34
  Speaker 12: to do with them, I think if they could seeing
• 22:38
  Speaker 12: in their crystal ball what it were going to turn
• 22:40
  Speaker 12: out to be, I think they would be more than happy.
• 22:42
  Speaker 12: Was Hissy be very very pleased. So you know, I
• 22:46
  Speaker 12: think I think it turned out exactly the way they
• 22:47
  Speaker 12: wanted it to. And I think my map was off.
• 22:50
  Speaker 12: Five drives, four touchdowns while Joe, as I am right,
• 22:53
  Speaker 12: that's producing at a high level. That's a high percentage
• 22:55
  Speaker 12: the conversion.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: For sure. That puts a rap on the Washington game. Now,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: time for this tweek's fun fact segment. Prior to the draft,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: there was a lot of speculation that the Bengals would
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: take a defensive player from Notre Dame that had been
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: coached by Al Golden, and they were surely interested in
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: cornerback Benjamin Morrison, who went in the second round, and
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: safety Xavier Watts, who went in the third. As it
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: turned out, the Bengals didn't draft a Notre Dame defender,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: but they did sign one as a college free agent,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: defensive tackle Howard Cross, who was a second team All
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: American each of the last two years for the Fighting Irish.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Now let's get to know the person under the pads.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Time for some fun facts with rookie defensive tackle Howard
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Cross from Paramus, New Jersey, about twenty minutes from MetLife Stadium,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: the home of the New York Giants, the team your
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: dad played for for thirteen years. He's also Howard played
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: in more than two hundred NFL games. What was it
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: like for you to grow up Howard Cross in New Jersey?
• 23:59
  Speaker 10: I mean, I'm not gonna lie to you.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Was I was.
• 24:01
  Speaker 13: I was living every kid's dream, you know. I'm like
• 24:03
  Speaker 13: anytime or anywhere in like elementary school, I'm like, yeah,
• 24:06
  Speaker 13: my dad played for the Giants, and I know all
• 24:08
  Speaker 13: the like I knew Tiki Barber and and I'mnti Tumor
• 24:11
  Speaker 13: and I knew all these guys and like I would
• 24:12
  Speaker 13: like go tell my friends. I'm like, yeah, I'm I
• 24:14
  Speaker 13: know Ticky Barber and you know, uh and like, you know,
• 24:17
  Speaker 13: just being stopped at any point like oh, like how
• 24:20
  Speaker 13: are Cross and the like, yeah, these are my kids,
• 24:21
  Speaker 13: Like all right, cool Howard Cross.
• 24:24
  Speaker 10: But you know, it was it was it was good.
• 24:26
  Speaker 13: You know, it was a it was It was a
• 24:27
  Speaker 13: cool experience being around football most of my life, just
• 24:32
  Speaker 13: just learning uh, the ins and out and it helped
• 24:34
  Speaker 13: me kind of be where I am today. Like I
• 24:35
  Speaker 13: knew the ins and outs of like the NFL and
• 24:37
  Speaker 13: how it worked, like back before I even assumed that
• 24:40
  Speaker 13: I could even make it to this level, Like like
• 24:43
  Speaker 13: I used to watch Hard Knocks with my dad when
• 24:44
  Speaker 13: I was like, I don't know, in middle school, I
• 24:46
  Speaker 13: was really interested in the NFL. But he was like,
• 24:48
  Speaker 13: this is how it works, is this is what's gonna happen.
• 24:51
  Speaker 13: These are this is the process.
• 24:52
  Speaker 10: And I'm like Oh that's that's.
• 24:53
  Speaker 13: Kind of nerve racking and out I'm laughing about it.
• 24:55
  Speaker 13: Now I'm like fifteen years later, I'm here and it's
• 24:58
  Speaker 13: it's just funny to me.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: So he's part of the Giants radio broadcast crew. Now,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: did he bring you around to the stadium quite a
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: bit when you were young?
• 25:05
  Speaker 13: Oh?
• 25:05
  Speaker 10: Yeah, no, I was.
• 25:06
  Speaker 13: I was in there when he's when he's recorded multiple times.
• 25:09
  Speaker 13: I know all the reporters back at the Combi, when
• 25:13
  Speaker 13: the Giants reporters were at the Common.
• 25:15
  Speaker 10: They're like, oh my god, our So it was good
• 25:18
  Speaker 10: to it was good to see all them. But yeah,
• 25:20
  Speaker 10: I was around. I was able to see all these
• 25:21
  Speaker 10: guys who like and again I remember I look at them.
• 25:24
  Speaker 13: They were larger than life, like punintended like they were
• 25:27
  Speaker 13: giants Like I literally, I really thought they were large,
• 25:30
  Speaker 13: larger than life humans. And I can't even imagine, you know,
• 25:34
  Speaker 13: being anywhere near these people.
• 25:35
  Speaker 10: And now then I'm in this position, this is it's
• 25:37
  Speaker 10: crazy to me.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: We're visiting the Bengals. Ricky Howard Cross, I've read that
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: your folks encouraged you to try every sport growing up.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: What did you participate in?
• 25:47
  Speaker 13: Uh, honestly, a little bit of everything. Uh my dad,
• 25:50
  Speaker 13: I remember. So he said, you could do whatever you
• 25:52
  Speaker 13: want as long as it doesn't include so no boxing,
• 25:56
  Speaker 13: no UFC, taekwondo, no no hand to hand comment every anything.
• 26:00
  Speaker 10: Also, you want to be world champion of dance.
• 26:03
  Speaker 13: Go ahead, just as long as it's not hand to
• 26:04
  Speaker 13: hand combat, you could do whatever you want. So growing
• 26:06
  Speaker 13: up I played. My dad got me into golf. Okay, golfer.
• 26:11
  Speaker 13: If I have golf more than twice a year, I
• 26:14
  Speaker 13: played lacrosse.
• 26:16
  Speaker 10: Growing up.
• 26:16
  Speaker 13: I was a really really good baseball player, terrible terrible
• 26:20
  Speaker 13: at basketball, but I was a really really, really surprisingly
• 26:23
  Speaker 13: good tennis player.
• 26:25
  Speaker 10: And I'm not gonna lie.
• 26:26
  Speaker 13: I always tell my friends, or I always tell my
• 26:28
  Speaker 13: friends that if I had never or if I chose
• 26:30
  Speaker 13: to play football, I might have actually been.
• 26:32
  Speaker 10: Really good at It's funny enough.
• 26:34
  Speaker 13: I was really good at baseball too, But again, it
• 26:36
  Speaker 13: was kind of in high school when I was in
• 26:38
  Speaker 13: the middle of baseball and Lacrosseuse lacrosse was big in
• 26:42
  Speaker 13: high school, and they were like, yeah, like I got
• 26:45
  Speaker 13: my first offer, and I was like, all right, I
• 26:46
  Speaker 13: guess it's football.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: So your dad went to Alabama and it's in the
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Alabama Hall of Fame.
• 26:52
  Speaker 9: You chose Notre Dame?
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Why South End.
• 26:55
  Speaker 13: A Yeah, I grew up with a dad who knew
• 26:57
  Speaker 13: the ins and outs of football, and after after football
• 27:00
  Speaker 13: night wasn't leave for thirteen years, and the biggest thing
• 27:03
  Speaker 13: for him was football is great.
• 27:06
  Speaker 10: Football is awesome. But he always used to say, the
• 27:08
  Speaker 10: NFL stands for not for long.
• 27:10
  Speaker 13: You know, there's a very like you could probably count,
• 27:15
  Speaker 13: I want to say, on not really one hand, but
• 27:18
  Speaker 13: I want to say, it's like maybe less than twenty
• 27:20
  Speaker 13: people who are able to play in the past like
• 27:23
  Speaker 13: fifteen years, that haven't been playing more than ten, ten,
• 27:27
  Speaker 13: twelve years, you know what I mean.
• 27:29
  Speaker 10: So I mean what the maverage NFL lifespans what three years?
• 27:32
  Speaker 13: So after that he got a good job, so he
• 27:35
  Speaker 13: you know, he always talked about getting a good job.
• 27:39
  Speaker 13: Justin Tuck, who was a world class dam for the Giants,
• 27:42
  Speaker 13: is the VP of Golden Sacks.
• 27:43
  Speaker 10: Right now with Notre Dame.
• 27:45
  Speaker 13: So obviously they were very big on obviously, yes, football school,
• 27:48
  Speaker 13: but like academics.
• 27:49
  Speaker 10: So I was looking at.
• 27:50
  Speaker 13: Duke Northwestern Stanford and then obviously a Nore Dame called
• 27:54
  Speaker 13: that was like the pinnacle of education. But obviously football,
• 27:57
  Speaker 13: So I jumped to the opportunity to go there.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: You played in sixty six games there, that's second most
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: all time at Notre Dame. And your defensive coordinator for
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: the last three years was Al Golden, So you know
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: him better than any other player in this locker room.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: What do you admire and respect about Al?
• 28:14
  Speaker 13: I mean, I admire that he wants the best out
• 28:16
  Speaker 13: of us. He wants the best to have the defense.
• 28:18
  Speaker 13: You know, you can't be perfect, but you can be
• 28:20
  Speaker 13: damn near close. So that's kind of philosophy that he
• 28:22
  Speaker 13: goes by. And honestly, like, I don't really know anybody
• 28:24
  Speaker 13: that wouldn't like die on the field for him.
• 28:26
  Speaker 10: He's a very big, no I.
• 28:29
  Speaker 13: Want to say, father figure, Like he makes sure everybody's okay,
• 28:32
  Speaker 13: make sure he checks on everybody every once in a while,
• 28:35
  Speaker 13: and he passed them all the way. So I was like,
• 28:36
  Speaker 13: oh you doing just always wondering, like what's what's going
• 28:39
  Speaker 13: on outside of football? Like how's everything going? But again,
• 28:42
  Speaker 13: he just he cares about you as a person. He
• 28:44
  Speaker 13: definitely cares about you's a football player.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: My broadcast partner Dave Lapham played for the Bengals in
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: their first Super Bowl, and he describes when he ran
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: out of the tunnel, he felt like he could lift
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: the stadium. You played in the National Championship Game last
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: year for Notre Dame. What was that feeling like for
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: you to take the field.
• 29:01
  Speaker 10: It was kind of surreal.
• 29:02
  Speaker 13: I'm not gonna lie to you, Like I remember like
• 29:04
  Speaker 13: walking out with the captains and I just laughed. I'm like,
• 29:08
  Speaker 13: this is I this is just crazy, you know, and
• 29:11
  Speaker 13: my entire life, like watching the National Championship game the.
• 29:16
  Speaker 10: Little what is it, the black and silver.
• 29:19
  Speaker 13: Year number, so twenty twenty four twenty I'm like, oh,
• 29:21
  Speaker 13: that's so cool, Like just imagine that on my jersey,
• 29:23
  Speaker 13: and now I have a twenty twenty five jersey, which
• 29:26
  Speaker 13: looks sick by the way, but just but it was
• 29:29
  Speaker 13: just that whole thing. I remember just looking in the
• 29:30
  Speaker 13: mirror and just looking at the symbol like before the
• 29:32
  Speaker 13: game and just being like wow, And just the whole
• 29:35
  Speaker 13: process was crazy.
• 29:36
  Speaker 10: I mean, like the.
• 29:38
  Speaker 13: I can't even describe it like it was. I can't
• 29:40
  Speaker 13: think of a better way to go out of college.
• 29:43
  Speaker 10: I can't. I can't. Like the first what is a
• 29:45
  Speaker 10: twelve man playoff?
• 29:47
  Speaker 13: The first ever playoff game at Notre Dame, which is
• 29:50
  Speaker 13: my last ever game in Notre Dame. But it was
• 29:52
  Speaker 13: a night game, and by far in six years, it
• 29:54
  Speaker 13: was my craziest Notre Dame game playing in New Orleans,
• 29:57
  Speaker 13: being Georgia like it was.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: It was just I saw an old story in the
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: South Bend newspaper that referred to you as fast hands Howard.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: What was the origin of that nickname?
• 30:10
  Speaker 10: Coach Golden?
• 30:11
  Speaker 13: Actually Coach Golden first came to Notre Dame all those
• 30:16
  Speaker 13: years ago, and again, I was just the little guy
• 30:19
  Speaker 13: on the field. And I mean that's everys first reaction
• 30:21
  Speaker 13: when they've seen the Notre Dame film, like exact guy.
• 30:25
  Speaker 10: Uh, but you know I was.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: I was.
• 30:26
  Speaker 13: I'm known for, you know, using my hands quickly and
• 30:29
  Speaker 13: get me fun of a little bit for how large
• 30:31
  Speaker 13: my hand's on which is disproportional in my lot eight,
• 30:35
  Speaker 13: but just being able to use my hands and that
• 30:37
  Speaker 13: that's kind of what that's kind of what he'd even say.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: You were a second team All American each of the
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: last two years at Notre Dame, but you weren't selected
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: this year's NFL draft. The Bengals signed you quickly as
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: a free agent. Were you ticked off and what did
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: NFL teams miss?
• 30:52
  Speaker 10: Obviously, you know I was a little I was a
• 30:53
  Speaker 10: little frustrated. Anybody would be. I was. You know, I
• 30:57
  Speaker 10: was projected to be drafted pretty high. I was drafted.
• 31:00
  Speaker 10: That's how, that's how it goes, you know what I mean.
• 31:03
  Speaker 10: And you know they don't really think they missed anything.
• 31:06
  Speaker 10: You know, I'm not gonna lie. I came.
• 31:07
  Speaker 13: I came back for another year, hoping to raise my
• 31:10
  Speaker 13: draft sock harder than I already was.
• 31:11
  Speaker 10: And but I got hurt.
• 31:13
  Speaker 13: It's just so happened that the most ever d tackles
• 31:16
  Speaker 13: to ever be draftable in the modern era was this
• 31:19
  Speaker 13: past year.
• 31:21
  Speaker 10: Like just everything, you know, just it. It was just
• 31:24
  Speaker 10: a bad bad role, bad hands.
• 31:26
  Speaker 13: You know every time, every once in a while, your
• 31:27
  Speaker 13: delt a bad hand life, and you know you just
• 31:29
  Speaker 13: gotta make them most of it. So you know, yeah,
• 31:31
  Speaker 13: it's I remember like not receiving a phone call and
• 31:34
  Speaker 13: be like, you know what, I knew I was gonna
• 31:36
  Speaker 13: get an opportunity, and I have an opportunity now and
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  Speaker 13: I'm using it.
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  Speaker 1: So it's not how you get here, it's what you
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  Speaker 1: do once you're here. A few wild card topics. Now,
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  Speaker 1: for Howard Cross, you are Howard Cross the third. If
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  Speaker 1: you have a son at some point, will he be
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  Speaker 1: Howard the fourth?
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  Speaker 13: I would believe, so, I'm sure I'll twenty am I
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  Speaker 13: twenty three right now?
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  Speaker 10: Twenty four?
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  Speaker 13: I probably h Yeah, I got a couple of years
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  Speaker 13: before I think about that.
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  Speaker 10: Got a couple of years for that one. But yeah,
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  Speaker 10: probably I would, I would assume. So yeah, I think.
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  Speaker 1: So you have a twin sister, Bella. Do you have
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  Speaker 1: similar likes and dislikes?
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  Speaker 10: We're basically the same person. I'm not gonna lie to you.
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  Speaker 10: If she would hate that, I would say that.
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  Speaker 13: If you're listening to this, well I'm sorry, but yeah,
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  Speaker 13: we're basically the same person. We like the same things,
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  Speaker 13: like I mean again, we grew up like we were
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  Speaker 13: in the same front group growing up, like you know,
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  Speaker 13: like I'm a nerd, like I read com books and
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  Speaker 13: superheroes name all that stuff, and she does the exact
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  Speaker 13: same thing.
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  Speaker 10: So yeah, we're basically the same person.
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  Speaker 1: I have a notre dame hot take for you. Here goes.
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  Speaker 1: Rudy is a terrible movie. He is an annoying whiner.
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  Speaker 1: Did I just defend you? Have you seen Rudy.
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  Speaker 10: I don't know. If I shouldn't answer this question.
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  Speaker 9: Feel free to agree.
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  Speaker 13: I don't. I'm not a fan of the movie, and
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  Speaker 13: I do know the true story of Rudy.
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  Speaker 10: That is all I will say about that. I'm not
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  Speaker 10: a fan of the movie.
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  Speaker 13: You know, I'm sure he was a nice guy and
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  Speaker 13: never really never had the opportunity to meet him.
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  Speaker 10: But I know the truth.
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  Speaker 13: I've heard from other players and coaches who have been
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  Speaker 13: a part of the team that I know the true
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  Speaker 13: story of Rudy, and that that is you know.
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  Speaker 10: That's all say.
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  Speaker 1: The movie is very embellished. We'll leave it at that.
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  Speaker 1: Aside from football, do you have any talents cooking?
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  Speaker 13: Cooking is definitely my my biggest thing. Like, I love cooking.
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  Speaker 13: I always kind of say, this is a real fun fact.
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  Speaker 13: I really think about that if I didn't play football,
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  Speaker 13: and like I I had enough money in the world
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  Speaker 13: where I could choose any job I want to be,
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  Speaker 13: I'll be like a five star culinary chef from like
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  Speaker 13: a crazy Michelin star restaurant.
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  Speaker 10: I just I just think it's really cool, you know.
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  Speaker 13: I like I like I like cooking. I like the
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  Speaker 13: way it smells. I like I like doing stuff in
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  Speaker 13: my hands. I like kind of creating art that way.
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  Speaker 13: And I don't know, I just I think that stuff
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  Speaker 13: is amazing, you know. So yeah, if I never played
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  Speaker 13: football and I was able to have any job in world,
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  Speaker 13: that I would definitely be a culinary chef.
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  Speaker 1: All right, gourmet chef. Howard crossed the third final question.
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  Speaker 1: This one's a little bit deep. If you could meet
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  Speaker 1: anybody in history, living or deceased, who would that person be?
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  Speaker 13: Uh So, I have a family member and ever and
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  Speaker 13: I have a genuine answer.
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  Speaker 10: The genuine answer would be Ali and.
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  Speaker 13: Just I don't know, just watching interviews and just like
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  Speaker 13: I just I just want to be able to meet
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  Speaker 13: somebody like that.
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  Speaker 10: And just like because I.
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  Speaker 13: You know, my entire life, I overthink a lot of things,
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  Speaker 13: you know, but just like somebody who radiates like confidence constantly,
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  Speaker 13: like no matter who he's talking to face with, literally
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  Speaker 13: like being public at one point being public Enemy number
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  Speaker 13: one of the country and really getting on live TV
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  Speaker 13: and doing what he does best. Uh, and it was
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  Speaker 13: it's just it's just all like anytime like I listen
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  Speaker 13: to anything he says, I just think it's amazing. And
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  Speaker 13: then like family wise, so had probably been a great
• 35:00
  Speaker 13: greatgrandfather Archie Cross. So it's that family member where like
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  Speaker 13: you don't like there's not a lot of pictures.
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  Speaker 10: You don't know, but it's just legends. Like apparently he
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  Speaker 10: was like back in.
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  Speaker 13: My great great grandfather said that I was back in
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  Speaker 13: Alabama a long time ago, but like he was the
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  Speaker 13: I think the strongest wrestler in the state or something
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  Speaker 13: like that. He like was legend has it he was
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  Speaker 13: wrestling bears and he was like throwing hay Bill. He's
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  Speaker 13: able to like take on and be three people and
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  Speaker 13: once in wrestling.
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  Speaker 10: Like I just hear.
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  Speaker 13: Legends about this guy, and I think that would be
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  Speaker 13: the coolest thing I were to be able to meet him.
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  Speaker 1: This has been great. Really appreciate your time. You're having
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  Speaker 1: an excellent camp.
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  Speaker 9: Keep it up.
• 35:39
  Speaker 10: Thank you so much. I appreciate it.
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