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- 0:02Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Stride Time with Ashlyn Sulliver, tell John Oshanan,
- 0:08Speaker 1: Brian Sexton Jack Stride Time, and he starts right now,
- 0:16Speaker 1: let's gonna stop ring up, ring up, ring ring up?
- 0:18Speaker 1: Right U rd of a fill y'all boss, Let's get
- 0:20Speaker 1: working all out the top tip you gotta slow down,
- 0:23Speaker 1: slowing down your professional I keep saying that, say things
- 0:27Speaker 1: three nont When you'd rather have Mike Depp at training
- 0:33Speaker 1: camp practice than new cornerback Shaquille Griffin. Coach Meyer told
- 0:38Speaker 1: us that he has this entering brit and is this
- 0:41Speaker 1: energetic every single great day. I could use that energy
- 0:44Speaker 1: every single day. I use that energy one day. Yeah,
- 0:47Speaker 1: I think how much we would accomplish. Yeah, he's he's special.
- 0:51Speaker 1: He is. He's a neat guy and thank the cool thing.
- 0:55Speaker 1: How urban he's talked about how he didn't know those
- 0:57Speaker 1: guys before and had it fit right in and it's
- 1:00Speaker 1: it's not overplaying. You know. Sometimes the media we get
- 1:03Speaker 1: ahold of a story and we beat it to death. Um.
- 1:06Speaker 1: But the relationship that he has with ray Seon Jenkins,
- 1:09Speaker 1: the connectivity, it's real. He just walked by when the
- 1:14Speaker 1: other has been at the podium. The way they come
- 1:16Speaker 1: on and off the field. Um, they're not brothers, blood brothers,
- 1:20Speaker 1: you know. I mean Jack's got one of those, but
- 1:23Speaker 1: they're pretty close. Yes they are, so you can check
- 1:25Speaker 1: out that miked up on Jaguars dot com. Shortly we
- 1:28Speaker 1: have more of those during training camp. Max Hawkman just
- 1:31Speaker 1: a lovely job with those. And it is the player's
- 1:34Speaker 1: day off today after a long weekend of training camp practice,
- 1:37Speaker 1: but no off days for us. We have been on
- 1:42Speaker 1: This is our first time back in ten days. So
- 1:45Speaker 1: let's go busy. We've been on the field. We're not
- 1:48Speaker 1: just sitting around. I'll bring all the energy you guys
- 1:50Speaker 1: need today. I got it. Not excited to be here, John,
- 1:53Speaker 1: you can go home now. All right, let's get into
- 1:56Speaker 1: big things. Big thing one is evidence. We talked about
- 2:00Speaker 1: it for months on end. You guys heard us. How
- 2:02Speaker 1: is this going to work? What is this going to
- 2:04Speaker 1: look like? How will coach Meyer run this training camp?
- 2:08Speaker 1: And he said that this week they're bringing up the
- 2:10Speaker 1: competitive nature as much as possible. And this is evidence
- 2:13Speaker 1: that this franchise is working in the right direction. We
- 2:18Speaker 1: have some winter loser opportunities. You know, we're gonna have
- 2:21Speaker 1: to make a decision a big roster is going to
- 2:24Speaker 1: go over to a smaller roster, and I just I
- 2:26Speaker 1: think to be fair to players, you know, I just
- 2:29Speaker 1: we all have so much respect for that. This is
- 2:31Speaker 1: a way guys make a living. And I don't believe
- 2:33Speaker 1: in subjectivity. I believe in what's your record. Big thing
- 2:38Speaker 1: too is quarterback. Biggest question is how does Trevor Lawrence
- 2:42Speaker 1: look out there at training camp. Well, he started off
- 2:45Speaker 1: with five great days in a row, some jaw dropping
- 2:48Speaker 1: throws that we came up the practice field and couldn't
- 2:51Speaker 1: stop talking about. And then the pads went on in
- 2:53Speaker 1: the defense press and it was a little more challenging
- 2:55Speaker 1: for him. He's still trying to figure it out, but
- 2:58Speaker 1: offensive coordinator Darryl Bevil said he's got time. Today was
- 3:03Speaker 1: the sixth install that we've been through. I kind of
- 3:06Speaker 1: thought of piled up on him a little bit today. Um,
- 3:09Speaker 1: the first five days, I thought there was some really
- 3:11Speaker 1: good recall. Today I could see some you know, misalignments
- 3:14Speaker 1: and those kind of things which you would expect at
- 3:16Speaker 1: this point for Trevor. Um, it's just every day is
- 3:20Speaker 1: a learning process, and you know, there's a lot of
- 3:23Speaker 1: stuff on him right now. And there's gonna another one tonight,
- 3:26Speaker 1: another one the next day, and then once we once
- 3:28Speaker 1: we end them, it'll start to slow down. We'll go
- 3:30Speaker 1: back review, we'll clean some things up. But each and
- 3:33Speaker 1: every day he's in there working hard, watching the tape
- 3:36Speaker 1: um and trying to improve as he comes back out
- 3:38Speaker 1: for the next day. And big thing three, which is
- 3:41Speaker 1: the biggest question on defense, and I think we all
- 3:44Speaker 1: still have this. Did the Jaguars do enough to ensure
- 3:48Speaker 1: that they can and stop the run this season? We
- 3:50Speaker 1: spoke to want some yesterday. He said those free agents
- 3:53Speaker 1: that they brought in it was for reasons. He thinks
- 3:56Speaker 1: they will stop the run, and he might have a
- 3:58Speaker 1: big part in that. I've done that my whole career,
- 4:01Speaker 1: just playing inside, outside, doing whatever I need to do
- 4:04Speaker 1: to be at a healthy seem win. So I mean,
- 4:06Speaker 1: now I'm like dropping away and I'm going to be
- 4:08Speaker 1: on the outside more and then I still have to
- 4:10Speaker 1: go on the inside as well. So I mean it's
- 4:12Speaker 1: just a plus that just gonna help me really just
- 4:15Speaker 1: center my game all the way all the long. They
- 4:18Speaker 1: have it to wance. He talking about that run defense,
- 4:21Speaker 1: and we will go all the way back up to
- 4:22Speaker 1: big thing one coach Meyer warned us that the acclamation
- 4:26Speaker 1: period was going to be totally different than when the
- 4:28Speaker 1: pads came on. And I will say the first day
- 4:31Speaker 1: of PAD that was almost expecting a little more, a
- 4:33Speaker 1: little more juice, but he warned us that it was
- 4:35Speaker 1: going to be a process getting into it. And I
- 4:37Speaker 1: think yesterday, the second day of pads, it was truly
- 4:40Speaker 1: the most competitive day we've seen so far. Well, he
- 4:43Speaker 1: made expected a little more juice the first day too,
- 4:44Speaker 1: because he made the comment I think it was yesterday
- 4:48Speaker 1: that the first day was so so in terms of intensity,
- 4:51Speaker 1: and then he liked a lot better Wednesday. I guess
- 4:54Speaker 1: it was the day that they had the winner loser Brian,
- 4:58Speaker 1: I had never seen the winner user practice and what
- 5:02Speaker 1: no and you like because I'm I'm the first guy
- 5:05Speaker 1: to say, well, the NFL is the NFL, and colleges
- 5:07Speaker 1: college it. I don't know if win or loser was college.
- 5:09Speaker 1: I don't know what that was. But I don't know, frankly,
- 5:13Speaker 1: if I have ever been to an NFL practice that
- 5:17Speaker 1: I've enjoyed more in terms of you know, the energy
- 5:20Speaker 1: was there. From a lazy media guys standpoint, it made
- 5:23Speaker 1: it really easy to know who was winning and losing
- 5:25Speaker 1: because the coach was telling you, Um, tomorrow, I will
- 5:28Speaker 1: have my recliner with a couple of live streams, and
- 5:31Speaker 1: I'm hoping I can get Urban just kind of sit
- 5:33Speaker 1: there and take me through it. Well, he might just
- 5:34Speaker 1: turn over and go right. I mean, you're not question.
- 5:37Speaker 1: You know. The funny thing is is that if if
- 5:38Speaker 1: if if Joe over there was to declare one of
- 5:41Speaker 1: us the winner after every statement, wouldn't you work harder
- 5:44Speaker 1: to have the best? Most people would, but I would. OK.
- 5:49Speaker 1: So that's what I liked about it. Not to tell
- 5:51Speaker 1: you yesterday was as much fun as I've had on
- 5:53Speaker 1: the practice field because of the past protection drill. I
- 5:57Speaker 1: have never seen, not even del Rio, who loved that drill,
- 6:00Speaker 1: who would get involved in it. But just with his
- 6:04Speaker 1: his voice, I mean, Urban was down in the trenches.
- 6:06Speaker 1: It was you know, here's the offense, here's the defense,
- 6:08Speaker 1: and here's him blowing the whistle, starting the drill. And
- 6:11Speaker 1: then you know, with Gusto, he's pointing in the direction
- 6:15Speaker 1: of the winner or the loser, you know, I mean,
- 6:17Speaker 1: he was. It was theatrical almost. I don't think he
- 6:20Speaker 1: intended to be theatrical. I think he was that intense
- 6:23Speaker 1: in it. I loved it. It was so much fun,
- 6:26Speaker 1: and so did the players. Well, he knows the players
- 6:28Speaker 1: feed off of him, so if he wants an energetic practice,
- 6:32Speaker 1: they're going on to respond to that. But I do
- 6:35Speaker 1: think and if he said it in the sound bite,
- 6:37Speaker 1: but the fact he's never been through cuts before, and
- 6:43Speaker 1: I do think there's a lot of sincerity when he says,
- 6:47Speaker 1: you know, at some point in late August, he's going
- 6:49Speaker 1: to have to sit in an office and look across
- 6:51Speaker 1: at a guy who he knows has given him everything
- 6:55Speaker 1: and say, you know what, you're everything wasn't enough, And
- 6:59Speaker 1: he'll he'll phrase it a different way, but that will
- 7:01Speaker 1: be the reality. So I do think he wants to
- 7:04Speaker 1: see face to face and have some sort of you know,
- 7:08Speaker 1: standard for this is why I'm doing this, and to
- 7:13Speaker 1: do it fairly. And I think that was a sincere
- 7:15Speaker 1: statement from him. You know, I didn't know him before
- 7:18Speaker 1: they hired him. I don't know that you or you
- 7:20Speaker 1: did even in your a Gator I guess you were too, though, um, yeah,
- 7:24Speaker 1: go for it. He is incredibly consistent with his concern
- 7:28Speaker 1: for players, whether you're talking about how they are treated
- 7:32Speaker 1: coming off the field, or how he'll treat them when
- 7:34Speaker 1: it's time to reduce the roster. He talks all the time.
- 7:37Speaker 1: I asked him a question yesterday that I've probably asked
- 7:39Speaker 1: every head coach here. You know, what do you see
- 7:41Speaker 1: from the run defense? Because when you get into pads,
- 7:43Speaker 1: it's one of the first things the coaching generally goes
- 7:46Speaker 1: to is do we look like we're able to stop
- 7:48Speaker 1: the run? He said, I'm not even focused on that.
- 7:49Speaker 1: I'm focusing on individuals, right, I focused on you, asked
- 7:53Speaker 1: Joe Colin, if he sees the entire picture, I'm looking
- 7:56Speaker 1: at Malcolm Brown or Roy Robertson Harris, I'm looking those guys.
- 8:01Speaker 1: He is. Um, he's very authentic in the way that
- 8:04Speaker 1: he cares about players. It's it is refreshing, it is
- 8:08Speaker 1: and I thought it was interesting. You were asking about
- 8:10Speaker 1: the competitive nature and okay, well, how do you weigh
- 8:13Speaker 1: a practice? And he basically said that every player has
- 8:16Speaker 1: what basically is a report card, or they'll go and
- 8:19Speaker 1: grade them a scale of one to ten, and that's
- 8:21Speaker 1: something they'll use when you decide who makes this team.
- 8:24Speaker 1: Is they have a report card for every practice and
- 8:27Speaker 1: I thought the money quote in there as he said,
- 8:30Speaker 1: you're talking about winning and losing, and he got in
- 8:32Speaker 1: some of his history with players and he said, if
- 8:34Speaker 1: if you have a lot of potential and you lose
- 8:36Speaker 1: a lot, that's not a good thing. You know. I
- 8:40Speaker 1: think that speaks to um how he'll treat the roster
- 8:45Speaker 1: at the end of AUGUSTA. Yeah, And I don't know.
- 8:48Speaker 1: We talked so much about the quarterback and I talk
- 8:50Speaker 1: about the run defence real quick, Okay, you know, in
- 8:53Speaker 1: looking at the numbers last year, it was worse than
- 8:56Speaker 1: I thought. I mean, since Morsel Darius was injured in Cincinnati,
- 9:01Speaker 1: this team has just been poorous against the run. Last
- 9:04Speaker 1: year four point seven yards per carry d fifty three
- 9:07Speaker 1: yards a game and four times the franchise record. They
- 9:10Speaker 1: allowed two hundred yards. It's a big story. Can they
- 9:12Speaker 1: stop the run. If they can stop the run, then
- 9:15Speaker 1: the quarterback will be a whole lot better. Right. If
- 9:18Speaker 1: they can't stop the run, the quarterback is gonna be
- 9:20Speaker 1: thrown because he's coming from behind. That's stopping the run.
- 9:23Speaker 1: I think is a critical story as we start into
- 9:25Speaker 1: the preseason next week, and just you know, it's the preseason,
- 9:29Speaker 1: but you are going to see traces of the improvement
- 9:33Speaker 1: that they hoped to make when they signed Roy Robertson Harris,
- 9:36Speaker 1: when they brought in um Malcolm Brown. You know when
- 9:40Speaker 1: they they have got to be better against the run.
- 9:42Speaker 1: We have focused on that. It was terrible last year.
- 9:45Speaker 1: It's got to be at least better this year. Well,
- 9:52Speaker 1: like people watching this say, Bryan, it's a passing lead
- 9:56Speaker 1: who cares about run defense? And the NFL coach will
- 9:58Speaker 1: tell you the reality is, I think the biggest problem
- 10:02Speaker 1: beyond quarter right, beyond anything else that Jaguars had the
- 10:05Speaker 1: last two years, and they have not been able to
- 10:06Speaker 1: stop the run. Because if you don't stop it, no
- 10:09Speaker 1: team is going to go throw the ball thirty what's
- 10:11Speaker 1: the easiest way to move the ball? You're gonna run.
- 10:13Speaker 1: No team will will pass against you until you show
- 10:17Speaker 1: you can stop the run. So they haven't been able
- 10:19Speaker 1: to do that. So I don't know that they've done
- 10:21Speaker 1: enough that The Colts just took this team apart at
- 10:24Speaker 1: the end of last year with Jacobe Brissette, but they
- 10:26Speaker 1: didn't do with Brissette. They did it with a young
- 10:28Speaker 1: running back and they just ran it down their throat.
- 10:30Speaker 1: Why not you have to stop the run to give
- 10:34Speaker 1: your offense and the quarterback a level playing field from
- 10:37Speaker 1: which to go out and attack. You can't do it
- 10:40Speaker 1: if you're always playing from behind. And the more I
- 10:42Speaker 1: watched the nine on seven drills, I like what I
- 10:44Speaker 1: see from Roy robertson Harris. I like what I see
- 10:46Speaker 1: from Alcolm Brown, which is why I asked the question,
- 10:49Speaker 1: you know, where do you think they are? We'll ask
- 10:51Speaker 1: Joe when we get a chance to talk to him.
- 10:52Speaker 1: But that's a major story for this football team. Did
- 10:55Speaker 1: they accomplish what they hoped to bringing in Colin, changing
- 10:58Speaker 1: the scheme and signing those players? I agree, right, I
- 11:00Speaker 1: like the pieces, like the guys you mentioned what concerns you?
- 11:04Speaker 1: Is there enough? That's the major storyline as we go
- 11:08Speaker 1: for you go to with three four it's a linebacker
- 11:10Speaker 1: focused defense. You need lots of linebackers, So guys like
- 11:12Speaker 1: Quincy Wilson Quincy wasn't Quincy Williams Damian Wilson. We're watching
- 11:17Speaker 1: these guys to see if they can step into those
- 11:18Speaker 1: roles and help this team. Yeah, you feel good about
- 11:20Speaker 1: the starters. My biggest question was, Okay, what about the
- 11:22Speaker 1: depth and what happens if there's one key injury like
- 11:25Speaker 1: there was with Marcel Darius, it fell apart because there
- 11:28Speaker 1: was no one behind him to pick that up. So
- 11:30Speaker 1: that's something we're going to figure out as time goes on. Yeah,
- 11:32Speaker 1: it's tough to get what you're talking about in one offseason,
- 11:36Speaker 1: right because you have to draft deaf, you have to
- 11:38Speaker 1: have a couple of free agents, you have to develop it.
- 11:40Speaker 1: But you can be there good frontline. Yeah, you can
- 11:42Speaker 1: be much better in one year. I mean you can
- 11:44Speaker 1: make dramatic improvement with scheme and with a few different
- 11:48Speaker 1: things here. We'll see if they do. We will when
- 11:50Speaker 1: we come back. He will, he won't. He might for
- 11:53Speaker 1: training camp. But addition coming up right here on Jaguars
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- 14:14Speaker 1: movers dot com. I think it's just the preparation. UM.
- 14:19Speaker 1: You know. I I have a formula that I do UM.
- 14:22Speaker 1: You know every off season in UM, every camp and
- 14:26Speaker 1: during the season that that works. UM. And it's UM.
- 14:29Speaker 1: And I still feel like I still feel like year
- 14:31Speaker 1: one when I do that, you know what I'm saying.
- 14:33Speaker 1: If not, it takes me a little while to warm up.
- 14:36Speaker 1: Wide receiver Marvin Jones going into his tenth NFL season,
- 14:41Speaker 1: and he always wears this blue bands. It's almost like
- 14:44Speaker 1: a workout bands. And I always wondered why does he
- 14:46Speaker 1: wear it is he wears it almost the entire practice
- 14:48Speaker 1: and he says he has to wear that for his
- 14:51Speaker 1: hips to be right. And when that band comes off,
- 14:54Speaker 1: it means trouble for defensive backs. You know, um two
- 14:59Speaker 1: nine nine they signed Tory Holt, the Jaguars did. If
- 15:02Speaker 1: you remember Tory hold from St. Louis and he came
- 15:05Speaker 1: in about the same point in his career and you
- 15:07Speaker 1: you looked at him and you said, he's got nothing left.
- 15:09Speaker 1: I mean you, he's just here to you know, collect
- 15:12Speaker 1: a check and you know, maybe lead a little bit.
- 15:14Speaker 1: When you look at Marvin Jones is an entirely different player,
- 15:17Speaker 1: and you could tell the guy is in incredible shape
- 15:21Speaker 1: and still capable of being a playmaker because he does
- 15:23Speaker 1: it throughout practice. Entirely different. It's refreshing to see a
- 15:28Speaker 1: veteran with something in the tank who can come in
- 15:30Speaker 1: here and give you everything that you might possibly need.
- 15:33Speaker 1: We won't blow it too much, because that is John's
- 15:35Speaker 1: he will He won't. He might. Right, Well, it's okay,
- 15:40Speaker 1: so I got to uh we'll go. I'll go with
- 15:42Speaker 1: Walker Little who I have watched the young left tackle
- 15:45Speaker 1: get better practice after practice and until the pads went on,
- 15:48Speaker 1: you're watching your hands and your feet. Uh, yesterday he dominated,
- 15:53Speaker 1: which is why he's here right now. Uh. So I'll
- 15:55Speaker 1: go with Um, he will start this year. Okay, Um,
- 16:01Speaker 1: he won't necessarily start at left tackle if a student
- 16:05Speaker 1: football fans were called. Jonathan Ogden Hall of Fame left
- 16:08Speaker 1: tackle for the Baltimore Ravens was drafted in and he
- 16:11Speaker 1: started that season for the Baltimore Ravens, but he started
- 16:14Speaker 1: it left guard because the Ravens had a veteran player
- 16:17Speaker 1: on a one year contract named Tony Jones, and then
- 16:20Speaker 1: Tony went on to play in Denver and it was
- 16:22Speaker 1: a very good player. So Walker Little might start at
- 16:26Speaker 1: a different position. Um, but he's he's eventually going to
- 16:30Speaker 1: be the left tackle here and he might be the
- 16:33Speaker 1: guy they've been looking for since Faseli left. You know,
- 16:35Speaker 1: they drafted a bunch of them, from Mike Pearson to
- 16:39Speaker 1: Collie Barnes to Eugene Monroe and lu Joker. I mean
- 16:43Speaker 1: they've been trying to find the answer at left tackle,
- 16:47Speaker 1: even Cam Robinson. Um then they drafted him, and I
- 16:51Speaker 1: mean he just looks like a dominant left tackle. Yesterday
- 16:55Speaker 1: he was sensational. And I'll say this, I don't know
- 16:58Speaker 1: how you keep them off the field. Well, and don't
- 17:01Speaker 1: forget we all know the story. A bit of Bears
- 17:03Speaker 1: repeating because we have new people listening. He was going
- 17:07Speaker 1: to be a top ten pick coming out, and then
- 17:10Speaker 1: he heard his knee as junior year or his sophomore year,
- 17:13Speaker 1: forget the timeline, but was coming back. And then COVID
- 17:18Speaker 1: hit and for some reason, the scouts are in the
- 17:22Speaker 1: NFL knocked people down out of the Pac ten this
- 17:25Speaker 1: year for skipping because of COVID. Uh, there was no
- 17:29Speaker 1: reason this guy was in a first round pick. Credit
- 17:32Speaker 1: to the Jaguars for not getting too caught up in
- 17:35Speaker 1: the well, we haven't seen him in two years. Well,
- 17:37Speaker 1: if you turn on the tape. From what I'm told,
- 17:40Speaker 1: David Shaw at Stanford told me, look, John, this kid
- 17:42Speaker 1: is a top fifteen pick. The Jaguars watched the tape,
- 17:47Speaker 1: they saw it, but remember people might forget. Also, the
- 17:49Speaker 1: Pac ten said we're not playing football right, So he
- 17:52Speaker 1: went and turned his attention to getting ready for the
- 17:54Speaker 1: NFL draft. And then they came back and go, hey,
- 17:55Speaker 1: you know what, we're gonna play football? Well, he was
- 17:57Speaker 1: already down the road. All they got I penalized for
- 18:01Speaker 1: that was really weird. I mean I had never seen
- 18:02Speaker 1: him play because I don't watch the West. I don't
- 18:04Speaker 1: watch Stanford that much. Um, But I had read and
- 18:07Speaker 1: I understood that he was a very highly thought of player.
- 18:11Speaker 1: And there was almost a cheshire cat grin on the
- 18:15Speaker 1: coach in the general manager's face when they were talking
- 18:16Speaker 1: about him after the draft. Now you see why, Yeah,
- 18:19Speaker 1: they knew he was a steel coach Meyer said that
- 18:21Speaker 1: I knew he was good, but he is better than
- 18:23Speaker 1: I even expected coming in a train. And that's about
- 18:26Speaker 1: as telling a quote is going to get from him
- 18:30Speaker 1: on a rookie. Right now. They think this kid's really good,
- 18:34Speaker 1: and I think and he may be right, yea. We
- 18:35Speaker 1: will see what happens, right John Uh, I think Martin Jones,
- 18:39Speaker 1: and I guess I'll just defer to Brian because I
- 18:42Speaker 1: was telling a story. You weren't hereing O nine. You
- 18:44Speaker 1: were with the Colts, So I I was telling a story.
- 18:47Speaker 1: He will be absolutely critical and not producing this offense.
- 18:51Speaker 1: I don't know if he's going to be the one
- 18:53Speaker 1: or all that stuff, but you can tell as as
- 18:56Speaker 1: Brian said, alrighty that he has gas from the tank. Um,
- 19:01Speaker 1: he won't necessarily get a thousand yards receiving. And I
- 19:06Speaker 1: say that because I'm not sure any of these three
- 19:08Speaker 1: guys to get a thousand yards. I think they all
- 19:10Speaker 1: might get nine hundred. I think this might be one
- 19:12Speaker 1: of those receiving corps that maybe at the end of
- 19:15Speaker 1: the season their accolades don't come because people don't notice.
- 19:18Speaker 1: Could do one of the numbers. But if we think
- 19:20Speaker 1: about that, if they all get nine hundred twenty seven yards,
- 19:23Speaker 1: hundred yards receiving, yeah, I think you know. I watched
- 19:28Speaker 1: what was that show when we were kids? A Multiplatient
- 19:30Speaker 1: rock Funding on ABC UM Saturday morning. They it feels
- 19:36Speaker 1: like it's going to be a consistent, productive group rather
- 19:41Speaker 1: than having a one. But Marvin Jones might get double
- 19:44Speaker 1: with the two touchdowns, and I mean hesitant to say
- 19:47Speaker 1: that because he got nine in three of his last
- 19:49Speaker 1: four seasons, so you know, he knows how to find
- 19:52Speaker 1: the end zone. Uh. It feels like he's gonna be
- 19:56Speaker 1: Trevor's bailout. It feels like Devil really trust him. Uh.
- 20:01Speaker 1: Wouldn't be surprising if he was one of those touchdown
- 20:04Speaker 1: guys as as opposed to yardage guys. Is here and
- 20:07Speaker 1: I think Marvin Jones would take that. I would take
- 20:10Speaker 1: a good deal. And I think djh R is going
- 20:12Speaker 1: to get enough attention and and Chenault looks terrific through
- 20:15Speaker 1: the first week of camp. Marvin Jones just is gonna
- 20:17Speaker 1: be the guy who understands where to get his absolutely
- 20:21Speaker 1: and you you pick, Okay, well, Trevor's gonna have a guy,
- 20:23Speaker 1: and he's gonna find someone he's really comfortable with. But
- 20:25Speaker 1: to me, it almost seems like that changes every single day,
- 20:29Speaker 1: like that connection is growing with every single one of
- 20:30Speaker 1: those receivers. You can't pick a guy right now, all right,
- 20:33Speaker 1: So we're going to defense for he will, he won't,
- 20:36Speaker 1: he might. I'm going Damian Wilson, and I will say
- 20:38Speaker 1: this is the guy I've barely talked about. I will
- 20:40Speaker 1: be honest that he's kind of sort of falling through
- 20:42Speaker 1: the cracks with me. And then he had that press
- 20:44Speaker 1: conference and I was like, oh, yeah, this is a
- 20:45Speaker 1: crucial part the team. He will be all over the field.
- 20:49Speaker 1: He's played every linebacker position and we'll be rotating through
- 20:52Speaker 1: all those spots. Charlie Strong told us that this guy
- 20:55Speaker 1: is a Super Bowl champion from the Chiefs who started
- 20:58Speaker 1: in that Super Bowl game. From what we've seen at practice,
- 21:01Speaker 1: he's running everywhere sideline a sideline, blitzing, dropping back into coverage,
- 21:06Speaker 1: you name it, and he knows how to win and
- 21:08Speaker 1: that is crucial to this team. He won't start right away,
- 21:11Speaker 1: and that's because those spots have already been taken by
- 21:13Speaker 1: Miles Jack and Joe Shobert are ahead of him. But
- 21:16Speaker 1: don't be surprised when you see a heavy rotation that
- 21:19Speaker 1: involves this guy. He's going to get involved in linebacker depth,
- 21:23Speaker 1: especially with the switch this three four. It's crucial and
- 21:26Speaker 1: you're looking right at it. He might have had one
- 21:29Speaker 1: of the best hits of PAD so far. It was
- 21:31Speaker 1: almost a welcome to the NFL hit Travesy Tim went
- 21:35Speaker 1: for a run and he hit him in the defense exploded.
- 21:38Speaker 1: Joe Colin was going nuts, and that says a lot
- 21:39Speaker 1: because he goes nuts on everything. He was yelling, screaming.
- 21:43Speaker 1: It was one of the best hits of practice. And
- 21:45Speaker 1: this is the guy that is crucial to the defense
- 21:47Speaker 1: and we don't talk enough about him all out of
- 21:49Speaker 1: He might he might want to dial back that hit
- 21:51Speaker 1: on the young rookie and so voy because you want
- 21:53Speaker 1: to get these guys hurt. But thirty five years ago
- 21:56Speaker 1: that would have been the coach would have loved it.
- 21:58Speaker 1: I think yesterday they were like, Uh, I like it,
- 22:01Speaker 1: but I don't like it that much. Yeah, I think
- 22:05Speaker 1: he might wind up before the season is over with
- 22:08Speaker 1: uh having a really crucial I don't know if he's
- 22:11Speaker 1: gonna start over show it or not, but this is
- 22:13Speaker 1: a guy who clearly, to me, it's critical. There's been
- 22:20Speaker 1: too many cases here in the past where if they
- 22:23Speaker 1: got a start or hurt, then all of a sudden
- 22:25Speaker 1: they were deficient at a spot. And I think when
- 22:28Speaker 1: they signed Wilson, a lot of people asked, well, what
- 22:31Speaker 1: does that mean for Show? What does it mean for Jack?
- 22:34Speaker 1: Why is it not okay for them to have more
- 22:36Speaker 1: good players? Well, and a guy who won a Super
- 22:38Speaker 1: Bowl ring and then played in another with Kansas City,
- 22:40Speaker 1: So he brings that element to the locker room of
- 22:42Speaker 1: understanding how to play at a championship level. So when
- 22:46Speaker 1: he stands out with the podium and says it's championship
- 22:48Speaker 1: or failure, he's got some credibility behind him. That matters,
- 22:52Speaker 1: especially when you got a guy like Miles Jack in there,
- 22:54Speaker 1: who is as good a linebacker as you could ask for,
- 22:56Speaker 1: but doesn't have that He doesn't understand that part of
- 22:59Speaker 1: it because he's never played for one so I mean
- 23:02Speaker 1: ANFC championship game. Notwithstanding yeah, exactly, Joe Schulberg, same thing. Cleveland.
- 23:08Speaker 1: Jacksonville hasn't gotten there, so it brings some value there.
- 23:10Speaker 1: I like him. And again, in a three four scheme,
- 23:15Speaker 1: you are linebacker intensive. You need more of these guys
- 23:18Speaker 1: who can run in the head, and he's one of them.
- 23:20Speaker 1: It sounds like I had a good pick. Then maybe
- 23:23Speaker 1: good pick. Thanks all right. So when we come back
- 23:25Speaker 1: on Jaguars Drive Time, hot off the press, there is
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- 25:40Speaker 1: time for hot off the press. We're going to the newspaper.
- 25:44Speaker 1: And John used to be a newpaper writers. He told
- 25:45Speaker 1: us all about this and how we do. It's sign
- 25:48Speaker 1: a newspaper back in the day. If you go out
- 25:51Speaker 1: on your on your porch in the morning, I bring
- 25:54Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal and in the mornings and show
- 25:55Speaker 1: to Wow, that's fascinating. It's pretty much the reaction I get.
- 26:02Speaker 1: There is a scrimmage inside the stadium on Sunday that
- 26:06Speaker 1: you can come to by registering on Jaguars dot com
- 26:08Speaker 1: slash Training Camp. There will be all kinds of headlines
- 26:11Speaker 1: from that scrimmage. Coach Meyer said he wishes he could
- 26:14Speaker 1: scrimmage every single day because it tells a lot about
- 26:16Speaker 1: your team. So, Brian, what is the headline going to
- 26:18Speaker 1: be Monday morning? Here's a little for you. Competitive camp
- 26:23Speaker 1: creates plenty of opportunities for young Jaguars. Right, we just
- 26:26Speaker 1: talked about Walker little Uh, expect these guys to, you know,
- 26:30Speaker 1: kind of be amped up for this opportunity. Who was
- 26:33Speaker 1: it that said no one likes to get clowned in?
- 26:36Speaker 1: Said that the other day. So these guys play, um
- 26:39Speaker 1: Luke Ferrell the young tight end in a in a
- 26:41Speaker 1: room where no one seems head and shoulders above everyone else.
- 26:44Speaker 1: He's made a couple of catches the last few days
- 26:46Speaker 1: that have brought my attention. Andre Cisco, if you haven't
- 26:48Speaker 1: seen him, is a He's big. I mean he's a
- 26:51Speaker 1: good sized guy who roams in the the middle of the
- 26:53Speaker 1: field very well. Uh. And here's another one that I've watched,
- 26:56Speaker 1: especially with C. J. Henderson's absence. I know he's back
- 26:59Speaker 1: but not practicing yet. Tyson Campbell. I've noticed him on
- 27:02Speaker 1: the practice field. So I think some young guys on
- 27:05Speaker 1: Monday are going to have the attention of Jaguars fans
- 27:08Speaker 1: for their potential. I like it. I went with Kwan Treadwell,
- 27:15Speaker 1: Uh may make the team. And this is a little
- 27:18Speaker 1: bit maybe not a headline. Maybe it's like what we
- 27:21Speaker 1: used to call a sidebar, but you didn't use on
- 27:24Speaker 1: him on a pilla. What's that? Uh? Treadwell is a
- 27:31Speaker 1: guy he signed in the off season with his team.
- 27:35Speaker 1: Uh he was a first round pick of the Vikings.
- 27:37Speaker 1: He had a devastating injury in college, which I guess
- 27:41Speaker 1: knocked off his speed a lot. Uh So the first
- 27:45Speaker 1: thing you know about him when you read about him online,
- 27:48Speaker 1: he's not overly fast. But every time you look out
- 27:52Speaker 1: there in practice, he's making a play. And he's got
- 27:55Speaker 1: NFL experience. He's never had a great NFL seas and
- 27:58Speaker 1: think it's high as like two or fifty yards. Um.
- 28:00Speaker 1: I keep going back to the quote that Urban said
- 28:04Speaker 1: yesterday when he first started speaking about sometimes guys just
- 28:08Speaker 1: win in practice and they're not necessarily fast, and Urban
- 28:11Speaker 1: loves speed, But I can't help think that he's going
- 28:14Speaker 1: to sit there and watch practice. This guy has has
- 28:17Speaker 1: NFL routes, he continues to get open. He's reliable. Um,
- 28:23Speaker 1: he's not gonna be one of the top three, But
- 28:25Speaker 1: I just wonder if it's not going to be the
- 28:26Speaker 1: top three. We've talked about Philip Dorset and the quantre
- 28:30Speaker 1: readwell by the time it's all over. He's a big body.
- 28:32Speaker 1: I mean, he's got a big time NFL body. If
- 28:34Speaker 1: he can't run fast, he can certainly go to the
- 28:36Speaker 1: middle of the field. And there is no fear when
- 28:37Speaker 1: he goes over there, and Dorsets looked really good. By
- 28:40Speaker 1: the way, I think people overlooked him. Uh they knew
- 28:43Speaker 1: what they were doing, they knew they needed speed. I
- 28:46Speaker 1: can't imagine the Torsets out on this day. Yeah, and
- 28:49Speaker 1: then you wonder, then who are you cutting? Because you
- 28:51Speaker 1: still have Colin Johnson, you still have Jalen Camp, you
- 28:54Speaker 1: have a ton of wide receiver options. And every day
- 28:56Speaker 1: it's like you make a case, Oh, hey, well he's
- 28:58Speaker 1: gonna make the team. Well you got a couple of
- 28:59Speaker 1: guys that you can start at the practice squad. You're
- 29:01Speaker 1: gonna need him, Yes you will. Alright, My headline is
- 29:03Speaker 1: going to be quarterback competition no more. Urban Meyer announces
- 29:08Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is the starter come Monday morning. And I
- 29:11Speaker 1: know there's no rush for this, but I'm looking into it.
- 29:14Speaker 1: In the past two days, Trevor Lawrence has taken snaps
- 29:16Speaker 1: with the first team. There was a rotation, and I
- 29:20Speaker 1: don't think with priests and games, you necessarily you don't
- 29:22Speaker 1: need to see Trevor Lawrence. You know what Gardner Minshew is.
- 29:25Speaker 1: So there's no rush for this, but we all know
- 29:28Speaker 1: this headline is coming and I feel like Sunday in
- 29:31Speaker 1: front of the fans, Trevor Lawrence has a great day.
- 29:34Speaker 1: Maybe there's some pressure that you do announce it. I
- 29:36Speaker 1: don't know, what do you think. I'm not sure what
- 29:40Speaker 1: Urban's thinking is gonna be because that's so much of
- 29:42Speaker 1: a head coach. You know his pattern from before. There's
- 29:46Speaker 1: no pattern from before in this. I'm not sure what
- 29:47Speaker 1: he's gonna do. Um, I do think he'll play every
- 29:51Speaker 1: preseason again. I think you do want to see Trevor
- 29:53Speaker 1: Lawrence in that. Uh. I kind of think he'll wait
- 29:56Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. I thought it was interesting when
- 29:57Speaker 1: he said that he hired veteran coach in Brian Schottenheimer
- 30:01Speaker 1: and Darryl Bevil and he was going to let them
- 30:03Speaker 1: tell him when it was time to do it again.
- 30:05Speaker 1: A very revealing comment about his mindset going into camp.
- 30:10Speaker 1: Um also thank he really hadn't care when announced that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 30:18Speaker 1: Maybe I don't think he's tossing and turning at night trying,
- 30:21Speaker 1: but I think he's focused on it at all, right exactly,
- 30:23Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I just don't think it matters
- 30:25Speaker 1: to him. Is is everyone knows he's going to be
- 30:28Speaker 1: the starter. When do we say it? Whenever? Yeah, when
- 30:32Speaker 1: do we play for real Houston, We'll say that. Yeah. Okay, fine,
- 30:36Speaker 1: So my headline is not true. It's what you're saying.
- 30:38Speaker 1: It wasn't as good as you're a pick of Damien
- 30:40Speaker 1: Wilson was. Well, that was a pretty good fine headline
- 30:42Speaker 1: because it promoted discussion. Just fine, Thank you a newspaper
- 30:46Speaker 1: writer and them making when we come back, we're back
- 30:49Speaker 1: on Jaguars Drive. I'm talking all about that screaming that
- 30:51Speaker 1: you can come to right here on Sunday on Jaguars Drive.
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- 32:40Speaker 1: I love I love saying it, you know, and and
- 32:43Speaker 1: the energy it brought it brings even more innessy he
- 32:46Speaker 1: already had the energy now he got even more so
- 32:48Speaker 1: I love it. Um. You know, he's just he's doing
- 32:51Speaker 1: those those little things the right way and he and
- 32:54Speaker 1: he's taking advantage of those being stronger and faster. He's
- 32:57Speaker 1: already fast, but being stronger and fascinating thing by the
- 33:02Speaker 1: Leiska chalts on his teammate wide receiver d J Chark,
- 33:06Speaker 1: And we always say that, Okay, Lewis had an insane offseason.
- 33:10Speaker 1: He looks so much bigger, he looks so much faster,
- 33:12Speaker 1: but d J Chark is right there with him. These
- 33:14Speaker 1: both with these guys have made huge strides and it
- 33:17Speaker 1: looks like they're both going to have big years. Significant.
- 33:19Speaker 1: DJ was a little quiet the first few day of
- 33:21Speaker 1: the camp. I did noticing that much. On Win or
- 33:24Speaker 1: Loser Day, his name was all you hurt? Yeah he
- 33:28Speaker 1: won everything. So he's had a nice conversation with him
- 33:33Speaker 1: on the media day, you know when when they were
- 33:35Speaker 1: doing the things before camp open and the calm steady
- 33:40Speaker 1: d J HRC is the same guy, which I really
- 33:42Speaker 1: like going into a contract here because he didn't go, yeah, yeah,
- 33:44Speaker 1: this is the year I get paid. He said, no,
- 33:46Speaker 1: this is an important year for me, and I just
- 33:48Speaker 1: it was it kind of told you gets an insight
- 33:50Speaker 1: into the calmness in his life with a new baby
- 33:53Speaker 1: and what he's trying to get done and Morvin Jones's influence. Um, yeah,
- 33:59Speaker 1: he's gonna be fun to watch this year. He had
- 34:00Speaker 1: a quote on that at his first media availability to
- 34:03Speaker 1: somebody asked HI about his contract, and I forget exactly
- 34:05Speaker 1: what he said. That the end he said, you know,
- 34:07Speaker 1: talked about life changing money and he said, I'm all
- 34:09Speaker 1: you're doing pretty was like he put it into perspective.
- 34:12Speaker 1: He gets it. He's a good kid. And he also
- 34:15Speaker 1: said that day, I know I'm going to be taken
- 34:19Speaker 1: care of. Someone's going to pay him. He's going to
- 34:22Speaker 1: be fine. He's just focused on going and being the
- 34:24Speaker 1: best player he can and the money will come, which
- 34:27Speaker 1: is a great, by the way way for young players
- 34:29Speaker 1: to approach it. He knows it. Right now is not
- 34:31Speaker 1: the time to worry about it. But I did love
- 34:33Speaker 1: when we talked to Marvin Jones and the press conference
- 34:35Speaker 1: and he was asked, Okay, well, do you in DJ
- 34:37Speaker 1: have those conversations about money, and he's like, yeah, daily.
- 34:41Speaker 1: One of the reasons you be so calm about is
- 34:44Speaker 1: he's going to get paid. Very confident. You can be
- 34:47Speaker 1: calm when you know you're gonna get paid. Marvin Jones said,
- 34:49Speaker 1: just follow me and it'll be okay for you in March.
- 34:52Speaker 1: It's pro football. It's about the money. Yes, it is
- 34:55Speaker 1: all right. Your chance to see all those guys we
- 34:57Speaker 1: just talked about on Sunday. Here t i a a
- 35:01Speaker 1: bank field. Your last chance to see the Jags in person?
- 35:04Speaker 1: Four free is this Sunday August eight scrimmage inside the stadium.
- 35:09Speaker 1: Coach Meyer told us he wishes every practice was a
- 35:11Speaker 1: scrimmage because you find out so much about your team.
- 35:14Speaker 1: This is where you find out the most. You have
- 35:16Speaker 1: to register before coming to the stadium. So go to
- 35:18Speaker 1: Jaguars dot com slash training Camp and this scrimmage is
- 35:22Speaker 1: brought to you by Florida Blue. Looking forward to this,
- 35:26Speaker 1: I'm on television with Bucky Brooks for an hour on
- 35:29Speaker 1: Sunday morning. I'm looking forward to absolutely. I'm looking forward
- 35:32Speaker 1: to it as well, John, what are you looking forward
- 35:35Speaker 1: forward to it? I'll be out there and stands taking notes,
- 35:38Speaker 1: writing it up, lounging. Wait. I'll be indoors in the
- 35:42Speaker 1: air conditioning, and you'll be outdoors in the elements. This
- 35:45Speaker 1: is a reversal of recent years. I'm kind of that.
- 35:49Speaker 1: I'm kind of looking forward to that. I might point
- 35:51Speaker 1: that out to you. If there's an indoors, I'll find
- 35:53Speaker 1: it next week. I might next week, I might say
- 35:55Speaker 1: when we're on the air, might say, you know, Johnny,
- 35:57Speaker 1: I don't know what that's about, because it was the
- 35:58Speaker 1: air conditioning was so cool. If there's an indoors, John
- 36:02Speaker 1: will be there, all right. And that is Jaguars Drive Time.
- 36:05Speaker 1: Thank you for tuning in. We will be back with
- 36:07Speaker 1: you next week and stay with us on Jaguars dot
- 36:09Speaker 1: com for all of your training camp coverage. H