Transcript

Sharri | 23 July · Sharri

0:01
Speaker 1: Live on Sky News. This is Sharry.
0:07
Speaker 2: Good evening. It's great to be back with you tonight.
0:10
Speaker 3: A big thank you to Caleb, Denika and Steve Price.
0:13
Speaker 2: For filling in over the past few weeks.
0:15
Speaker 3: Well, let's start tonight with a massive deception on voters
0:19
Speaker 3: over the pivotal issue of President Joe Biden's mental acuity.
0:24
Speaker 3: White House advisors, journalists, and members of Congress are now
0:28
Speaker 3: in the spotlight for the protection racket over Biden's cognitive decline.
0:34
Speaker 3: The detail that's now emerging about Biden's incompetence during his
0:39
Speaker 3: time as leader of the free world is utterly breathtaking.
0:44
Speaker 3: It's a matter of utmost public interest. What could be
0:47
Speaker 3: more important than the ability to think and function of
0:51
Speaker 3: the man who has the power to launch nuclear weapons. Yet,
0:56
Speaker 3: as more evidence emerges about his serious decline, the protection
1:00
Speaker 3: racket around him is being exposed. In October twenty twenty one,
1:06
Speaker 3: Biden was reportedly incoherent and rambling during an address to
1:11
Speaker 3: Congressional Democrats. In fact, he was so inarticulate that he
1:16
Speaker 3: never met with the House Democratic Caucus again, according to
1:19
Speaker 3: The Wall Street Journal.
1:20
Speaker 2: That was less than a year into his presidency.
1:24
Speaker 3: Then in twenty twenty two, Biden lost his train of
1:28
Speaker 3: thought and began mumbling during a call about Ukraine with
1:32
Speaker 3: G seven world leaders.
1:34
Speaker 2: The Wall Street Journal reports that.
1:36
Speaker 3: He nearly hung up without giving Emmanuel Macron his say.
1:40
Speaker 3: Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau had to step in.
1:45
Speaker 2: Now.
1:46
Speaker 3: These world leaders all knew there was a problem with Biden,
1:49
Speaker 3: yet apparently kept its secret that the leader of the
1:53
Speaker 3: Free world was struggling now. This report also reveals that
1:58
Speaker 3: some cabinet secretaries only saw the president on a monthly basis.
2:04
Speaker 3: Some officials describe Biden as unusually removed from the rest
2:08
Speaker 3: of administration, or, as former administration official put it, not
2:14
Speaker 3: engaged in the hands on business of governing. Well, what
2:19
Speaker 3: seems to be emerging is that it was Biden's team
2:22
Speaker 3: running the United States, not necessarily the president that voters elected,
2:29
Speaker 3: and Massachusetts Congressman as Seth Moulton said that Biden didn't
2:32
Speaker 3: recognize him at an event in June, despite their long friendship.
2:38
Speaker 3: Even Special Counsel Robert Hurr back in February described Biden
2:43
Speaker 3: as an elderly man with a poor memory. And there
2:46
Speaker 3: are so many more examples, all emerging in outlets like
2:50
Speaker 3: the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, and the
2:53
Speaker 3: Washington Post.
2:55
Speaker 2: But where were.
2:56
Speaker 3: These investigative journalists a week ago, a month ago, or
3:00
Speaker 3: over the past three years, especially when it was obvious
3:04
Speaker 3: to any casual observer that Biden was in a state
3:08
Speaker 3: of sad decline thanks to clips like these that went viral.
3:14
Speaker 4: I don't want to I don't want to well, I mean,
3:19
Speaker 4: choose my worries. I was just thinking, Uh, anyway, I
3:26
Speaker 4: just look, I mean Putin's Club Tarcher.
3:36
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was in February February January, after I reading
3:42
Speaker 5: elected for late early February.
3:48
Speaker 3: Yet the White House claimed that reports of his mental
3:51
Speaker 3: degradation were all fake.
3:53
Speaker 6: News, instead of talking about the president's performance in office,
3:59
Speaker 6: and what I mean by that is his legislative wins,
4:01
Speaker 6: what he's been able to do for the American people
4:03
Speaker 6: across the country. We're seeing these deep figs, these manipulated videos.
4:10
Speaker 3: And they got away with this blatant lie thanks to
4:12
Speaker 3: their allies in the media, who pretended there was no
4:16
Speaker 3: issue at all. They said Biden was sharp as attack
4:20
Speaker 3: and would run again.
4:22
Speaker 5: President Biden, who I've been around numerous times just in
4:25
Speaker 5: this last year, is sharp.
4:27
Speaker 7: He's focused, He's bright.
4:29
Speaker 1: He is sharp, intensely probing and detail oriented and focused.
4:34
Speaker 8: This is a man who is sharp, who is on
4:36
Speaker 8: top of his game, who knows what's going on.
4:38
Speaker 7: He's smart, he's on his game.
4:41
Speaker 3: For years, the political and media elite lied to the
4:45
Speaker 3: public about a matter of no less importance than the
4:49
Speaker 3: president's cognitive ability. This is an incredibly grave offense. And
4:56
Speaker 3: even as Biden was about to step down, his confidants
4:59
Speaker 3: were insisting he'd stay in the race.
5:03
Speaker 9: This version of Biden, intellectually, analytically is the best Biden.
5:11
Speaker 10: Ever, absolutely the presidents in this race. You've heard him
5:14
Speaker 10: say that time and time again, and I think we
5:17
Speaker 10: saw on display last night exactly why. Because Donald Trump
5:21
Speaker 10: is not going to offer anything new to the American
5:23
Speaker 10: people now.
5:24
Speaker 11: Want to be crystal clear, He's made a decision, and
5:27
Speaker 11: that decision is to accept the nomination and run for
5:32
Speaker 11: reelection win reelection. And I think that there are those
5:35
Speaker 11: out there that need to hear it again that he
5:39
Speaker 11: made a decision. He's going to be the candidate, He's
5:41
Speaker 11: going to be the next president.
5:44
Speaker 3: It's shocking how comfortably those in power mislead voters and
5:49
Speaker 3: when they're caught out as they have been this week,
5:52
Speaker 3: how they just explain it away. This all further erodes
5:56
Speaker 3: voter trust in the political establishment. Assistance that Biden was
6:01
Speaker 3: fine and the clips of him rambling were all fake news. Well,
6:04
Speaker 3: this is especially hard to swallow when even Jodge Clooney
6:08
Speaker 3: said Biden is not the man he knew a decade ago.
6:12
Speaker 3: Yet Clooney too was happy to mislead voters just a
6:16
Speaker 3: month ago, fronting a Hollywood fundraiser that raised millions Or
6:21
Speaker 3: shouldn't he feel guilty about taking millions of dollars from
6:24
Speaker 3: donors for a.
6:25
Speaker 2: Man he knew wasn't up to the job.
6:29
Speaker 3: And the question that many commentators are now asking is
6:33
Speaker 3: if Joe Biden is not fit to run again, well,
6:36
Speaker 3: what makes him fit to remain US president? According to
6:40
Speaker 3: senior advisor for Trump and Bush administrations, Christian Witten, well,
6:45
Speaker 3: he's not fit to remain in office now, and that
6:52
Speaker 3: full interview will play you. That clip is coming up
6:54
Speaker 3: in a moment, and the mystery surrounding Joe Biden only
6:58
Speaker 3: grows with the only sign of the president since his
7:02
Speaker 3: bombshell move to quit the presidential race just.
7:05
Speaker 2: A phone call.
7:09
Speaker 3: This is highly unusual behavior that phone call going into
7:13
Speaker 3: a Kamala Harris campaign event today. Then there's this suggestion
7:17
Speaker 3: from Biden himself and his aides, and even repeated by
7:21
Speaker 3: our own Prime Minister Anthony Albernizi, that Biden acted selflessly
7:26
Speaker 3: in the national interest in stepping aside from the race.
7:30
Speaker 2: Well, his move is far from selfless.
7:34
Speaker 3: Biden was hanging in saying that only God Almighty could
7:39
Speaker 3: stop him from running. Selfless would have been Biden announcing
7:43
Speaker 3: he wasn't going to run a year ago, not after
7:46
Speaker 3: the primaries were done and dusted, not after he'd deprived
7:50
Speaker 3: voters of a democratic process where potential nominees would face
7:55
Speaker 3: thorough debates and interrogation. In fact, Biden only stepped back
8:01
Speaker 3: when forced to when the most powerful figures in the
8:05
Speaker 3: Democratic Party, Obama and Nancy Pelosi, intervened, threatening to remove
8:11
Speaker 3: him the hard way, whatever that means if he didn't
8:15
Speaker 3: go well. This says a lot about who really calls
8:18
Speaker 3: the shots in the United States, and as we've seen,
8:21
Speaker 3: it ain't the president.
8:27
Speaker 2: Now.
8:27
Speaker 3: The failure of the Secret Service was today laid bare
8:31
Speaker 3: in a grilling by the House Committee, but only more
8:34
Speaker 3: questions now arise around the assassination attempt on Donald Trump.
8:38
Speaker 2: We'll get to that later in the show.
8:40
Speaker 3: Plus, Kamala Harris shows up the broad support from her party,
8:43
Speaker 3: inching closer to becoming the official nominee, but many are
8:47
Speaker 3: asking whether she is up to the job. And Joe
8:50
Speaker 3: Biden snub to Benjamin Nettinyahoo canceling their meeting after he'd
8:54
Speaker 3: already arrived in Washington.
8:57
Speaker 2: You have to ask with friends like these.
9:00
Speaker 3: Also on the show tonight, more painful polling numbers for
9:03
Speaker 3: Albinizi as Dutton Gain's popularity. Will break down the latest
9:08
Speaker 3: data later, and the world's first blood test that predicts
9:12
Speaker 3: the risk of heart attacks.
9:13
Speaker 2: And even strokes in patients.
9:16
Speaker 3: The lead Australian researcher behind this will join me later
9:19
Speaker 3: in the show.
9:20
Speaker 2: This is amazing.
9:22
Speaker 3: But now let's stick with the US politics and bring
9:24
Speaker 3: in tonight's panel former Speaker of the House Bronwyn Bishop
9:27
Speaker 3: and llenp Senator James McGrath. Welcome to you both. Great
9:31
Speaker 3: to see you, Ron Wind. Now let's look at what
9:35
Speaker 3: happened today. Joe Biden phoned into Kamala Harris's campaign event.
9:39
Speaker 3: This is the first time we heard from Joe Biden
9:43
Speaker 3: the voters haven't seen him.
9:44
Speaker 2: This is the United States president. He's said in a.
9:48
Speaker 3: Statement posted to his Twitter account that he wasn't running
9:51
Speaker 3: for the presidency yet, no event at all, even though
9:54
Speaker 3: the White House doctor says he is recovering well from COVID.
9:58
Speaker 2: Don't you think this is quite unus usual? Brunwin?
10:00
Speaker 3: That a phone call and he hasn't actually addressed the public,
10:04
Speaker 3: the voters, the people yet.
10:07
Speaker 12: Yeah, it is distinctly odd.
10:08
Speaker 13: However, he's about as relevant as yesterday's wrapping on the
10:13
Speaker 13: fish and chips. He's now past history. It's a new
10:17
Speaker 13: game in town. It's called Kamala Kamala, if you like.
10:23
Speaker 13: But the problem is that there seems to be a
10:26
Speaker 13: reluctance to let go of the frailty of Biden.
10:30
Speaker 12: He won't be seen again. He won't be there to.
10:34
Speaker 13: Be in the way of her shining on the platform
10:36
Speaker 13: as he sets.
10:37
Speaker 12: Out as she, pardon me, sets out to be the
10:41
Speaker 12: winning candidate.
10:43
Speaker 13: And so there has to be a whole new strategy,
10:45
Speaker 13: and it'll be a question of tying her to him
10:49
Speaker 13: as part of the conspiracy to cover.
10:52
Speaker 12: Up what has gone on. But it's going to be
10:54
Speaker 12: very personal.
10:54
Speaker 13: She's indicated already she's going to personally attack Donald Trump
10:58
Speaker 13: by saying, I was a prospers, I know him. He's
11:02
Speaker 13: been convicted, so Trump has to be personal too, but
11:08
Speaker 13: it has to be tying it to policy. No compassion
11:11
Speaker 13: for women who can't put a food on the table
11:13
Speaker 13: of their family, or no compassion for the women who
11:17
Speaker 13: are attacked by the illegals who come across the border,
11:21
Speaker 13: tie her to a failure with that failure to protect
11:24
Speaker 13: the border, because.
11:25
Speaker 12: It's the one thing that she was given the job
11:28
Speaker 12: to do. So it's a whole new ball game.
11:31
Speaker 3: I mean, it's interesting, James, because the reason that was
11:35
Speaker 3: supposedly presented to Joe Biden is that the polling shows.
11:38
Speaker 2: That he can't beat Trump.
11:40
Speaker 3: Yet Kamala Harris is even more unpopular with voters.
11:44
Speaker 2: So the question is.
11:46
Speaker 3: Whether she would have a better chance of beating Trump,
11:50
Speaker 3: or whether there might be there might have been another
11:52
Speaker 3: Democratic candidate who the party could have found, who would
11:56
Speaker 3: offer voters a second option if they don't want to
11:58
Speaker 3: support Donald Trump, but that process seems to have gone
12:02
Speaker 3: past them.
12:02
Speaker 2: Now voters have been deprived that option.
12:06
Speaker 9: The Democratic Party is not living up to its name,
12:09
Speaker 9: is it We've had twelve months of hide and seek
12:14
Speaker 9: where people are trying to find out who is who
12:16
Speaker 9: is the real President Biden, Yet he's been hidden from people,
12:21
Speaker 9: are hidden throughout the primaries, so have an engineered process.
12:24
Speaker 9: And now it looks like the faceless men and the
12:26
Speaker 9: faceless women of the Democratic Party are effectively imposing the
12:31
Speaker 9: vice president on the Democrat Party as their preferred candidate.
12:37
Speaker 9: We should be concerned about this, and I don't necessarily
12:40
Speaker 9: want to disagree with Bronwin because it won't end well
12:43
Speaker 9: for me. But he is still going to be president
12:46
Speaker 9: for the next six months. And we've got a apricious rusher.
12:50
Speaker 9: We have communists China eyeing off Taiwan, and they're all
12:53
Speaker 9: looking at this weakened US president. This is very, very
12:58
Speaker 9: dangerous for a settled world order when we've got chaos
13:03
Speaker 9: in America.
13:04
Speaker 3: It's a very good point because, as I just mentioned
13:06
Speaker 3: in my opening remarks, I mean the stories that are
13:09
Speaker 3: coming out now, the detail in the New York Times,
13:12
Speaker 3: in the Wall Street Journal about just how very senior
13:16
Speaker 3: advisors at the White House, close to the President, even
13:20
Speaker 3: senior Congress members knew about his incoherence, his a competence,
13:25
Speaker 3: how he'd lose his trail of thought in meetings. This
13:27
Speaker 3: is now all in the public domain. These leaks are happening.
13:31
Speaker 3: All our enemies have never been more aggressive, not in decades.
13:36
Speaker 3: This is the most volatile global situation we're seeing with
13:40
Speaker 3: this axis of evil farming with China, Iran, North Korea
13:44
Speaker 3: and Russia and bronwin. They're seeing that the president of
13:48
Speaker 3: the United States, if these reports are to believed, and
13:51
Speaker 3: why wouldn't they be, but like believe they're incredible media
13:55
Speaker 3: outlets that effectively he's a puppet.
13:58
Speaker 13: Figure, absolutely and has been for the last two years.
14:02
Speaker 13: I think we've seen Obama have his third term, and
14:06
Speaker 13: if he had his brothers, I think he'd like to
14:07
Speaker 13: put his wife in to have a fourth term.
14:09
Speaker 12: But that's not going to happen.
14:10
Speaker 13: It's going to be the current vice president. But everything
14:15
Speaker 13: you've said about the drastic rammifications of the world for
14:19
Speaker 13: the next six months have been true for the last
14:22
Speaker 13: last eighteen months. But the reality of it is is
14:26
Speaker 13: if there's to be a change, then Trump has to win.
14:30
Speaker 13: And Trump is to win, he has to realize he's
14:32
Speaker 13: no longer fighting Biden, He's fighting Camela.
14:36
Speaker 3: Now, the great mystery is why Donald Trump was nearly
14:40
Speaker 3: assassinated just a week ago. Well, the Secret Service head
14:43
Speaker 3: Carrie Cheatle, faced intense questions today over the shocking failure
14:48
Speaker 3: of security to protect the former president. Just two minutes
14:53
Speaker 3: before the first shot was fired, locals tried to alert
14:57
Speaker 3: police to the shooter's location. It was such an a non
15:00
Speaker 3: as failure that the former president came within a whiskers
15:03
Speaker 3: breath of being assassinated.
15:05
Speaker 14: Have a look why did the Secret Service not? Can
15:09
Speaker 14: you answer why the Secret Service didn't place a single
15:11
Speaker 14: agent on the roof.
15:14
Speaker 15: We are still looking into the advanced process and the decisions.
15:18
Speaker 2: That doesn't look like suspicious behavior.
15:20
Speaker 7: That looks like threatening behavior to me.
15:22
Speaker 11: And the rally wasn't pause at that point either, correct.
15:26
Speaker 15: I can tell you, as I stated earlier, sir, that
15:28
Speaker 15: the moment that the shift surrounding the president were aware
15:33
Speaker 15: of an actual.
15:34
Speaker 11: Threat, that's a threat right there.
15:37
Speaker 15: I have no idea how my statement got out.
15:40
Speaker 3: Well, that's have you provided all audio and video recordings
15:44
Speaker 3: in your possession to this committee as we asked on
15:47
Speaker 3: July fifteenth?
15:47
Speaker 13: Yes? Or no?
15:48
Speaker 2: I would have to get back to you.
15:49
Speaker 12: That is a no.
15:50
Speaker 15: You're full of today, you're just being completely dishonest.
15:55
Speaker 3: It was intense and hostile questions. But the truth is
15:59
Speaker 3: that there was over half an hour period in which
16:03
Speaker 3: people on the ground raised the fact that there was
16:06
Speaker 3: someone suspicious, a potential shooter on the roof. They raised
16:09
Speaker 3: it with law enforcement. Law enforcement raised it with the
16:12
Speaker 3: Secret Service, and James what we saw today were frankly unacceptable,
16:16
Speaker 3: inadequate answers.
16:20
Speaker 9: Totally unacceptable answers. And if you can't protect the former
16:25
Speaker 9: president and the presumptive Republican Party candidate, how can you
16:28
Speaker 9: help protect the free world? And this is a serious
16:31
Speaker 9: question to be posed to the American Security Services because
16:36
Speaker 9: it goes to the funding of the security detail around
16:39
Speaker 9: President Trump, and it also goes to actually what happened
16:42
Speaker 9: on the day. And it's one of those cases where
16:45
Speaker 9: they need to have a very thorough inquiry, but you
16:48
Speaker 9: need to hasten slowly to make sure that it is thorough.
16:52
Speaker 9: But it has to be done in a timely manner.
16:54
Speaker 9: And as much as I love my American cousins and
16:56
Speaker 9: the questions that are asking of the director of the
16:59
Speaker 9: Secret Service, we've got to get to the truth of
17:02
Speaker 9: it and find out exactly what happened and ensure it
17:05
Speaker 9: does not happen again, and someone needs to be sacked
17:10
Speaker 9: or resign over those failings.
17:12
Speaker 3: And it doesn't matter if people like Donald Trump or
17:15
Speaker 3: not very divisive politician, but it's irrelevant. The bottom line, Branwyn,
17:20
Speaker 3: is that you can't have a secret service that is
17:22
Speaker 3: incapable of protecting a former president and most likely the
17:28
Speaker 3: future president. I don't understand why heads haven't rolled already
17:31
Speaker 3: over this.
17:32
Speaker 13: Well, the fact that no heads have rolled means that
17:36
Speaker 13: you start to feed conspiracy theories, I e. Why isn't
17:40
Speaker 13: she sacked so she knows something which you speak out
17:43
Speaker 13: if she were, why did she come to that? I mean,
17:46
Speaker 13: James and I have both seen witnesses come before a
17:50
Speaker 13: Senate and House committees where the witness comes deliberately giving
17:55
Speaker 13: no information and you just have to keep probing and
17:58
Speaker 13: you get them back and back came back, and that
18:02
Speaker 13: that has to happen with her because they obviously know
18:05
Speaker 13: something that they're not sharing.
18:07
Speaker 3: Well, they need to suppear subpoena documents, They need to
18:09
Speaker 3: seppit the entire computer systems, whatte our phone devices, They
18:13
Speaker 3: need to get.
18:13
Speaker 2: To the bottom.
18:14
Speaker 12: Absolutely, that's a long process.
18:16
Speaker 13: But it does beg the question people start saying, was
18:19
Speaker 13: there an inside job? Was there something malicious going on?
18:24
Speaker 13: Until you see the truth and can confront that sort
18:27
Speaker 13: of conspiracy, that's the sort of thing that starts to prevail.
18:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I mean the footage that has been
18:33
Speaker 3: shared widely on social media of people filming the shooter
18:38
Speaker 3: on the roof saying what's he doing? And to know
18:41
Speaker 3: that the Secret Service were in that building and no
18:44
Speaker 3: one took any action.
18:45
Speaker 12: The policeman came up and actually saw him. Why do
18:47
Speaker 12: I which she.
18:48
Speaker 3: Needs to answer those questions about why there were those failings,
18:51
Speaker 3: And you're right, if those questions aren't answered, then the
18:53
Speaker 3: conspiracy theories will continue to grow. Now, just before we go,
18:58
Speaker 3: let's look at more low local topic a media topic.
19:01
Speaker 3: Channel nine has spent over three hundred million dollars on
19:04
Speaker 3: the rights to the Olympics, but its own coverage could
19:07
Speaker 3: be in jeopardy because, as the Cidney Morning Herald, owned
19:10
Speaker 3: by nine, reports, staff have threatened to go on strike
19:13
Speaker 3: if paid demands aren't met.
19:17
Speaker 2: James.
19:17
Speaker 3: Just today, the nine chief executive, Mike Sneezeby, was pictured
19:20
Speaker 3: carrying the Olympic torch in Paris, Yet he might may
19:24
Speaker 3: end up with only a handful of reporters to actually
19:27
Speaker 3: rely on for the coverage when they've spent the network
19:32
Speaker 3: over three hundred million dollars.
19:35
Speaker 9: Well, I feel sorry for the shareholders of Channel nine
19:39
Speaker 9: who have allowed the management to spend hundreds of millions
19:43
Speaker 9: of dollars to get the Olympics coverage, and yet they've
19:46
Speaker 9: got a managing director who seems tone deaf at best.
19:50
Speaker 9: Are all incompetent that he's prepared to run along a
19:56
Speaker 9: French village with the Olympic flame, Yet everybody's about to
20:00
Speaker 9: go on strike. I don't know what's seen in the
20:03
Speaker 9: water cooler on the executive boardroom at Channel nine or
20:07
Speaker 9: the nine network, but they need to do something pretty
20:10
Speaker 9: quickly and get that ship back in order.
20:14
Speaker 3: James McGrath from and Bishop thank you both very much
20:16
Speaker 3: for joining me this evening.
20:18
Speaker 2: Now after the break, is Joe Biden in hiding.
20:21
Speaker 3: Questions mount over a bizarre phone call from the president
20:24
Speaker 3: as the Democratic favorite interest closer to becoming the nominee.
20:28
Speaker 3: A former advisor in the Trump and Bush.
20:30
Speaker 2: Administrations will join me next.
20:33
Speaker 3: Plus Labor downplays early election rumors again as new polls
20:37
Speaker 3: reveal another blow to Albaniz.
20:45
Speaker 2: Welcome back.
20:46
Speaker 3: Well, as we've been discussing, it seems that Joe Biden
20:48
Speaker 3: has been in virtual hiding since he announced on his
20:51
Speaker 3: Twitter account that he wouldn't be running in.
20:54
Speaker 2: The presidential race.
20:56
Speaker 3: This has sparked questions about his willingness to drop out,
21:00
Speaker 3: and there's now a spotlight on Biden's health and what
21:02
Speaker 3: the Democrats and his close allies and none more than
21:06
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris did to cover up and mask his decline. Well,
21:10
Speaker 3: I spoke to former senior advisor in the Bush and
21:13
Speaker 3: Trump administrations, Christian Witten about all of this a bit earlier. Christin,
21:19
Speaker 3: thank you so much for your time. We're seeing more
21:21
Speaker 3: details in newspaper reports of Biden's mental incoherence at meetings
21:25
Speaker 3: as far back as twenty twenty one, less than a
21:28
Speaker 3: year after he was elected president. Yet the White House
21:31
Speaker 3: claimed this was fake news and TV commentators covered up
21:34
Speaker 3: for him. Do you think voters were seriously misled?
21:39
Speaker 8: I think they were, although I think they've come to
21:41
Speaker 8: expect this from a media that is very biased. Basically,
21:46
Speaker 8: this reelection, which has been cast as a rematch for
21:49
Speaker 8: some time that a lot of the media the left
21:52
Speaker 8: wing media in the United States and all of the
21:54
Speaker 8: presidents enablers basically thought they had to do whatever was
21:58
Speaker 8: necessary to defeat Donald trump potential resurgence, and if that
22:01
Speaker 8: included misleading the people and also forestalling a competitive democratic
22:07
Speaker 8: nomination process that would have allowed voters to choose whether
22:11
Speaker 8: or not Biden Democratic voters to choose whether or not
22:13
Speaker 8: Biden was senile or competent, that was all pushed aside.
22:17
Speaker 7: I think voters are angry.
22:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's such a good point.
22:20
Speaker 3: There's no returning to the primaries, and Kamala Harris is now.
22:24
Speaker 2: All but the nominee.
22:26
Speaker 3: It means there's no democratic process, no chance for delegates
22:29
Speaker 3: to have their say, and there's no opportunity for other
22:33
Speaker 3: potential nominees to come forward.
22:35
Speaker 7: It is. It's a real railroading.
22:38
Speaker 8: You'll notice that one voice that has held back so
22:40
Speaker 8: far as former President Obama. Everyone else sort of among
22:44
Speaker 8: major figures. Most other people have endorsed Harris, and I
22:49
Speaker 8: think Obama is just holding back in case there is
22:51
Speaker 8: any resistance to this coronation that's going to take place
22:55
Speaker 8: in under a month at the Democrat Convention in Chicago.
22:58
Speaker 8: So you know, really the Democrats ought to have had
23:02
Speaker 8: a conversation and a debate and a vote over the
23:05
Speaker 8: trajectory of their party, whether they're going to come back
23:08
Speaker 8: to the center, which is what labor just did in
23:10
Speaker 8: the United Kingdom and won, where they're going to stay
23:13
Speaker 8: where they are, which is economics that leads to out
23:16
Speaker 8: of control inflation, humiliation for the United States abroad, and
23:20
Speaker 8: a very woke, culturally activist domestic policy, which is what
23:24
Speaker 8: they've ended up with without even having a vote Christian.
23:27
Speaker 3: Why would the likes of Obama, Pelosi and others wait
23:31
Speaker 3: so long to turn on Biden. Wouldn't they have been
23:34
Speaker 3: better off giving the Democratic Party proper time to work
23:38
Speaker 3: out a successor.
23:40
Speaker 7: I think they're terrified of what might happen.
23:43
Speaker 8: You know, don't mean to be too quaint, but if
23:45
Speaker 8: you look at the end of the Soviet Union, when
23:47
Speaker 8: they went from what Brezhnev to Gramikos tou Chernenko, people
23:51
Speaker 8: who were clearly deep into their dotage, and it was
23:55
Speaker 8: this fear of what a reformer, of what a new
23:58
Speaker 8: fresh face might bring. Also means a loss of power
24:01
Speaker 8: for them, a loss of ability to put their people
24:03
Speaker 8: into powerful jobs or get lucrative campaign jobs that pay,
24:08
Speaker 8: that can pay for people. So given the choice of
24:12
Speaker 8: opening up a can of worms and a future that's uncertained,
24:15
Speaker 8: or going with someone they know and they frankly could control,
24:18
Speaker 8: they tried to go the method of control.
24:21
Speaker 3: Joe Biden today phoned into Kamala Harris's campaign event, yet
24:25
Speaker 3: he hasn't appeared in person. There was just a statement
24:28
Speaker 3: released on his Twitter account. Do you find this behavior
24:32
Speaker 3: highly unusual for a president?
24:35
Speaker 8: Very unusual for a president. He's not a young man,
24:38
Speaker 8: and he does have COVID. On the other hand, his
24:41
Speaker 8: own physician put in writing today for his press secretary
24:45
Speaker 8: that he's recovering very well, that all of his symptoms
24:47
Speaker 8: have pretty much cleared up, Which raises the question.
24:50
Speaker 7: Why isn't he back in Washington?
24:52
Speaker 8: Prime Minister Beton Benjamin Nott and Yahoo of Israel is
24:56
Speaker 8: coming and the two men don't like each other, but
24:58
Speaker 8: nonetheless we are too important allies and he should be
25:01
Speaker 8: in Washington to receive him in addition to his campaign duties.
25:04
Speaker 8: So I think probably Biden is very disappointed and very
25:07
Speaker 8: irritated at what's happened. He probably views this as a
25:10
Speaker 8: betrayal by those who are closest to him and the party.
25:14
Speaker 3: We also saw the head of the Secret Service facing
25:17
Speaker 3: questioning today. Do you think she gave any adequate explanation
25:21
Speaker 3: over the major security failures that led to Trump almost
25:25
Speaker 3: being assassinated?
25:27
Speaker 8: No, there are still way too many questions. The answers
25:30
Speaker 8: that have been given are duplicitus or misleading.
25:33
Speaker 7: Saying that this was a sloped roof.
25:36
Speaker 8: One of the Republican congressmen who's seventy years old, got up.
25:39
Speaker 7: And was walking around the roof.
25:41
Speaker 8: It's a very mild slope, and he joked that he
25:43
Speaker 8: could be up there all day. She said that the
25:46
Speaker 8: structure was outside of the perimeter. That's absurd to anyone
25:49
Speaker 8: who's ever fired a rifle, whether you're a good shot
25:51
Speaker 8: or not. A huge breakdown, one of the most acrimonious
25:56
Speaker 8: hearings I've seen since the impeachment or the Iraq War
26:00
Speaker 8: on Capitol Hill, and it leads the question of what
26:02
Speaker 8: she's protecting, who she's covering up for, Whether there are
26:05
Speaker 8: messages between her and the Homeland Security Secretary who oversees
26:10
Speaker 8: her department that are, you know, say, don't give Trump
26:13
Speaker 8: adequate security. There's more than we're being allowed to see.
26:16
Speaker 8: I think the truth will come out, but it certainly
26:18
Speaker 8: hasn't come out so far.
26:21
Speaker 3: Christian just finally, if Democratic donors' political advisors and members
26:26
Speaker 3: of Congress came to the conclusion that Joe Biden wasn't
26:29
Speaker 3: fit to serve another term as president, what.
26:32
Speaker 2: Makes him fit to remain in the role now?
26:36
Speaker 8: Really nothing does unless he could say, well, he's perfectly
26:39
Speaker 8: fit now he just didn't, you know, couldn't handle another
26:41
Speaker 8: four years of the presidency.
26:43
Speaker 7: But he's not really saying that. And as we all
26:45
Speaker 7: saw on the.
26:46
Speaker 8: Stage, all of us, all of us around the world,
26:49
Speaker 8: America's friends and America's adversaries, he's clearly not someone who's
26:53
Speaker 8: competent to handle a crisis right now. I think he
26:56
Speaker 8: thinks he has to stay president. He's going to pardon
26:59
Speaker 8: his son and his brother and the rest of his family,
27:02
Speaker 8: but he can't do that until after the election, so
27:06
Speaker 8: he's not going anywhere. But I think it's it's probably
27:09
Speaker 8: an unwise choice for the nation security.
27:13
Speaker 2: Kristin, thank you very much for your time.
27:16
Speaker 7: Yeah, thanks my pleasure anytime.
27:19
Speaker 3: All right, Well, come back to us politics a bit
27:20
Speaker 3: later on the show. But let's turn now to matters
27:23
Speaker 3: on the home front, and it has been a bruising
27:25
Speaker 3: month for Labor in the polls. News Poll showed the
27:29
Speaker 3: coalition up two points in primary vote support, and the
27:32
Speaker 3: latest Freshwater Strategy poll shows the Coalition ahead of Albanesi's
27:37
Speaker 3: Labor government by fifty one to forty nine percent on
27:41
Speaker 3: a two party preferred basis. This is the first time
27:45
Speaker 3: Dutton is ahead of alban Ezi in this poll, and
27:48
Speaker 3: Freshwater Strategy director Leo Shanahan joins me.
27:51
Speaker 2: Now, Leo, thank you very much for your time.
27:55
Speaker 3: Well, just how significant is this result that Dutton's now
27:58
Speaker 3: ahead of alban Easy.
28:00
Speaker 16: Yeah, thanks Sherian, welcome back. Glad you did there as
28:02
Speaker 16: much news Look, it is significant. Look, it's a milestone.
28:08
Speaker 16: It's not a milestone of overwhelming significance, given its still
28:13
Speaker 16: within that kind of margin of error, but it is
28:17
Speaker 16: still a milestone and it's one that the government wouldn't
28:20
Speaker 16: want to be seeing and I wouldn't be surprised if
28:22
Speaker 16: it's pretty soon replicated in a couple of the other
28:25
Speaker 16: major polls, including News Poll. Look, it does mean that
28:30
Speaker 16: on these numbers, and you should always say that swings
28:34
Speaker 16: are never consistent across seats. But if that was to
28:38
Speaker 16: be replicated in an election, the government would fall into
28:42
Speaker 16: minority status. Now, on those numbers, we would have the government,
28:47
Speaker 16: the Labor government full innked about seventy one seats and
28:52
Speaker 16: the coalition picking up about eight seats. So that would
28:55
Speaker 16: mean puts them in a very awkward position. They would
28:57
Speaker 16: have to get the support of the MARS and or
29:01
Speaker 16: many of the Independence or a CATA or a Central
29:07
Speaker 16: Alliance soment remaining government.
29:10
Speaker 3: Now, let's talk about the key issues that are causing
29:14
Speaker 3: Labor and albin Easy to lose support of the people.
29:16
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously the cost of living is the number
29:18
Speaker 3: one issue, but also you're seeing immigration and crime.
29:23
Speaker 16: Yeah, look at these issues. Let's just look at some
29:25
Speaker 16: of these key issues. And it's it's really significant because
29:30
Speaker 16: if you look at what what pulses do is not
29:33
Speaker 16: just look at who's ahead and you know why governments.
29:36
Speaker 16: You want to look at why governments fall behind, why
29:40
Speaker 16: old positions are resurgent, and it's the issues on which
29:42
Speaker 16: people place emphasis. Now, if you look at some of
29:46
Speaker 16: those key issues where labor is losing support, management of
29:51
Speaker 16: the economy, immigration and asylum, crime and social order, these
29:55
Speaker 16: have all risen in terms of importance in the gender
30:01
Speaker 16: of people's priorities. So that is significant to climb. But
30:05
Speaker 16: the key one there and the most significant is the
30:09
Speaker 16: cost and standard of living.
30:10
Speaker 3: Consistently supplies to anyone watching.
30:12
Speaker 16: This too, exactly consistently, the cost and standard of living
30:16
Speaker 16: is overwhelmingly the biggest priority, for the largest priority for Australians.
30:21
Speaker 16: If you look at you know our numbers have it
30:23
Speaker 16: by far and away seventy three percent. So it is
30:28
Speaker 16: cost and standard of living in terms of the most
30:30
Speaker 16: important issue and daylight second. Now, as you see in
30:34
Speaker 16: those graphs, the Coalition has opened up a twelve point
30:38
Speaker 16: lead over Albanese's Labor government in terms of cost and standards.
30:44
Speaker 3: Just to explain that a bit, so voters or Australians
30:47
Speaker 3: at the moment think that Dutton would better be able
30:50
Speaker 3: to handle the cost of living crisis.
30:51
Speaker 16: Than Albany's by a margin of twelve points. And not
30:54
Speaker 16: only that, it was Labor that had a lead of
30:58
Speaker 16: twelve points on the same issue back in twenty twenty two.
31:03
Speaker 16: So that is a twenty four point decrease in fall
31:08
Speaker 16: in Labour's ability to handle.
31:11
Speaker 3: This issue, and it's fascinating beigtween voters because back in
31:14
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty two election, everyone will remember that Albertezi
31:18
Speaker 3: went to the polls and his main campaign platform was
31:21
Speaker 3: that life would be more affordable.
31:23
Speaker 2: It was the cost of living crisis at the time.
31:25
Speaker 3: It was everything from petrol prices to the single interest
31:29
Speaker 3: rate rise.
31:29
Speaker 2: That happened in the election campaign.
31:31
Speaker 3: But you know, you fast forward a couple of years
31:34
Speaker 3: and life is far more unaffordable. Everything from grocery prices, petrol,
31:40
Speaker 3: power bills, everything's gone up and people are just struggling
31:42
Speaker 3: even more and they probably look at the Prime Minister
31:45
Speaker 3: and they say, well, you promised this was your campaign platform.
31:48
Speaker 3: You promised to fix this, but it's just worse. So
31:52
Speaker 3: in effect he decided to own that issue.
31:54
Speaker 16: He didn't have to, and it's the key to the trend.
31:57
Speaker 16: It's the key to the trend, and the trend is
31:58
Speaker 16: brutal against the government at the moment in terms of
32:01
Speaker 16: support in terms of both primary TPP. The other poles
32:06
Speaker 16: are showing it and the key is really the ability
32:09
Speaker 16: to handle this cost of living issue. Because you said,
32:12
Speaker 16: they chose to own it. The budget sought to rectify that.
32:17
Speaker 16: To be frank, it has not worked, and this is
32:20
Speaker 16: also why the ALP government probably wants to go to
32:25
Speaker 16: another budget before the election to try and rectify that,
32:30
Speaker 16: because the budget has fallen flat.
32:32
Speaker 3: I mean, the reports just don't stop coming in the
32:35
Speaker 3: media about where the Labor would head.
32:36
Speaker 2: To an early election.
32:38
Speaker 3: But as you just said, Leo, the government does probably
32:40
Speaker 3: want to go to another budget first, and the Prime
32:42
Speaker 3: Minister has said very clearly he wants to serve out
32:46
Speaker 3: the full term. He wishes it was a four year term,
32:48
Speaker 3: not a three year term. So I just can't see,
32:52
Speaker 3: and I've spoken to insiders as well, but I just
32:54
Speaker 3: can't see any situation where he does go to the
32:57
Speaker 3: polls later this year.
32:58
Speaker 16: Yeah, Look, the mechanics of it are increasingly difficult, I
33:02
Speaker 16: think to go to an early election. I thought there
33:04
Speaker 16: would be an early election, but I think the arithmetic
33:07
Speaker 16: is increasingly difficult. October is basically impossible. They're going to
33:11
Speaker 16: go to a September election. He has to call the
33:13
Speaker 16: election within the next couple of weeks. Do you really
33:15
Speaker 16: see an election being called in the next couple of weeks.
33:17
Speaker 3: But once a rate cut, he wants to say that
33:20
Speaker 3: he's got on top of this cost of living crisis
33:23
Speaker 3: and the only chime. And there's not going to be
33:25
Speaker 3: a rate cut this year unfortunately, So the only chance
33:27
Speaker 3: is potentially in the first quarter next year. Shanahan, great
33:31
Speaker 3: to have you with us, Thank you very much, Thanks
33:32
Speaker 3: very Now still to come Joe Biden's eleventh hour snug
33:37
Speaker 3: of Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin neckin Yahoo even after you're
33:41
Speaker 3: ready touchdown in Washington. Plus you won't believe how much
33:45
Speaker 3: tax pay is bogged out for Stephen Miles private chats.
33:49
Speaker 2: All of that coming up the break, welcome back.
33:56
Speaker 8: Well.
33:57
Speaker 3: Donations are flooding in for Kamala Harris, as seems inevitable
34:01
Speaker 3: the Vice President will become the Democrats presidential nominee, and
34:05
Speaker 3: she's now said to have secured enough delicate support.
34:09
Speaker 2: But even with this.
34:10
Speaker 3: Dream start, there's a monumental task for her ahead, and
34:14
Speaker 3: the question still remains, is she up to the top
34:17
Speaker 3: job and is the world prepared for four more years
34:22
Speaker 3: of this?
34:23
Speaker 2: I am not here to replace your mother.
34:26
Speaker 10: You have that one mother, and I'm the second mother.
34:30
Speaker 2: Mamala, Right, Mamala, you think.
34:32
Speaker 15: You just fell out of a coconut tree.
34:36
Speaker 2: You exist in the context.
34:40
Speaker 7: Of all in which you live and what came before.
34:43
Speaker 2: We are going to the border. We've been to the border.
34:45
Speaker 7: So this whole, this whole, this whole thing about the border.
34:48
Speaker 2: We've been to the border.
34:50
Speaker 7: We've been to the border. You haven't been to the border,
34:53
Speaker 7: and I haven't been to Europe.
34:57
Speaker 3: Never forget that last interview, wasn't it shocking? We're joining
34:59
Speaker 3: me now to discuss SKY News host kayleb Bond and
35:02
Speaker 3: National's MP Keith Pitt. I mean, Keith, when you look
35:05
Speaker 3: at clips like this and then you've got Biden and
35:07
Speaker 3: then you've got Trump, well it makes you like in
35:10
Speaker 3: canbra look like professional politicians, like the world best.
35:16
Speaker 17: Of course we're the best of the world. Charry, what
35:18
Speaker 17: else right I say? But like Kamala Harris, I think
35:21
Speaker 17: there's some big advantages and big disadvantages. And I think
35:24
Speaker 17: the first disadvantages I've barely heard of her. I really
35:27
Speaker 17: haven't heard much about her at all, really, But the
35:29
Speaker 17: advantage is she can completely she can completely remake herself
35:33
Speaker 17: between now on the election of November, she can put
35:36
Speaker 17: herself forward as pretty much anything. But as the leader
35:38
Speaker 17: of the free world, you've got to be concerned. It's
35:41
Speaker 17: a really challenging period of time, there's challenges to the
35:44
Speaker 17: world order. The US plays such a big part in
35:47
Speaker 17: world security. Is this really the right choice for the
35:50
Speaker 17: United States? Well, I guess we'll find out.
35:53
Speaker 8: No.
35:53
Speaker 3: I have heard that been said over the past couple
35:56
Speaker 3: of days that a lot of Americans don't know her,
35:59
Speaker 3: so she can now define who she is. I find
36:02
Speaker 3: that hard to believe as a close observer of politics,
36:04
Speaker 3: but nonetheless that could be true.
36:07
Speaker 2: Cayleb But what about this other point. Many are saying
36:10
Speaker 2: that she was just a diversity.
36:12
Speaker 3: Pick as the VP, and that she doesn't have the
36:15
Speaker 3: substance to be president.
36:17
Speaker 2: What do you think of those criticisms of her.
36:19
Speaker 1: I think those criticisms are quite correct. I mean the
36:23
Speaker 1: idea that someone who was appointed and of course these
36:26
Speaker 1: decisions are often made when it comes to VP. You know,
36:28
Speaker 1: you want to fit a certain demographic or attract a
36:31
Speaker 1: certain vote, and she had the ethnicity and the woman
36:35
Speaker 1: factor right, which was good for a straight old white
36:38
Speaker 1: man who'd been in politics since he was twenty nine,
36:41
Speaker 1: like Joe Biden. But the idea that she could genuinely
36:44
Speaker 1: be president of the United States, I see Keith has
36:47
Speaker 1: a Bunderberg ginger beer sitting behind him there. I'd be
36:50
Speaker 1: rushing to put a bit of bunderberg rum in that
36:52
Speaker 1: at that idea, because she is finally unburdened by what
36:57
Speaker 1: has been, as she likes to say, with Joe out
37:00
Speaker 1: of the way. But her polling has consistently been worse
37:03
Speaker 1: than Joe Biden's, and that really is a feat. And
37:07
Speaker 1: we've made jokes for the better part of the four
37:10
Speaker 1: odd years that Joe's been present that you know, he's
37:13
Speaker 1: one sneeze away from carking it, and that if he
37:15
Speaker 1: does that, what we're going to end up with is
37:18
Speaker 1: worse than Joe Biden himself, which again is an extraordinary proposition.
37:21
Speaker 1: So for her to actually be a saleable politician to Americans,
37:25
Speaker 1: I just can't see it happening. But the trouble for
37:27
Speaker 1: the Dems is they don't really have anything else.
37:29
Speaker 3: Well, they might have if they'd had a proper debate
37:32
Speaker 3: process and allowed candidates to emerge, to put the hand
37:35
Speaker 3: up and then be thoroughly tested on a range of issues.
37:38
Speaker 1: Well correct. I feel like the real problem now though,
37:41
Speaker 1: is that after Trump being shot at, I mean, it's
37:44
Speaker 1: essentially a lay down mazaire for him, it would have
37:46
Speaker 1: to be someone extraordinary to beat Donald Trump, And if
37:50
Speaker 1: you put up a genuinely good candidate who perhaps isn't
37:54
Speaker 1: enough to beat him, you're essentially burning them four years
37:57
Speaker 1: earlier than you'd want to you'd want to go in
37:58
Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight.
38:00
Speaker 3: The other way of looking at it is you're increasing
38:02
Speaker 3: their name recognition to give them a better chance next time.
38:05
Speaker 3: I mean, that's the optimistic way of looking at it.
38:07
Speaker 3: Increasing the name recognition. I mean, that's why Vivek Ramaswami
38:11
Speaker 3: run this time, to give him a better shot in
38:13
Speaker 3: the future. But Israeli Prime Minister Venture Nettiya, who touched
38:17
Speaker 3: down in Washington, DC today.
38:19
Speaker 2: Only to be met with the news that his.
38:21
Speaker 3: Meeting with Biden had been canceled as the as the
38:25
Speaker 3: current president still recovers from COVID. This is a snub, though,
38:30
Speaker 3: Keith Pitt, because the White House physician said that Biden's
38:33
Speaker 3: symptoms have all but cleared. There's been no news that
38:36
Speaker 3: the meeting has been rescheduled for later in the week.
38:39
Speaker 3: We know they've got a very difficult relationship. In fact,
38:42
Speaker 3: the reports were that Joe Biden wanted to delay his
38:46
Speaker 3: announcement that he was stepping back from the race so
38:48
Speaker 3: that he wouldn't give Nettaya who the satisfaction. That's unbelievable
38:52
Speaker 3: given the US is meant to be Israel's closest and
38:56
Speaker 3: firmest ally.
39:00
Speaker 17: It is really concerning Shari. I mean, I remember very
39:03
Speaker 17: clearly the COVID period here when we were in government,
39:06
Speaker 17: and you know, you could have a face to face
39:08
Speaker 17: meeting if you lock up in quarantine and you're unwell.
39:10
Speaker 17: But there was lots of things that we had to do,
39:12
Speaker 17: even though we were quite six. But I remember doing
39:15
Speaker 17: a live speech into the Northern Territory Energy Club in Darwin,
39:19
Speaker 17: hundreds of people attending on an iPad on top of
39:22
Speaker 17: the ironing board in my apartment in canber and with
39:25
Speaker 17: a light shine on my face, I terribly had well.
39:27
Speaker 17: But the idea that you can't even do that, I mean,
39:30
Speaker 17: that is really concerning. The US has been very vocal
39:33
Speaker 17: about their support, as they should be, that they are
39:36
Speaker 17: backing an outcome in Israel which should ensure that there
39:40
Speaker 17: are no further terrorist attacks, and I think that's something
39:43
Speaker 17: that we should all support.
39:45
Speaker 2: But the idea that they're.
39:46
Speaker 17: Playing games with Netanyahu in country, I think that's a
39:50
Speaker 17: high risk endeavor.
39:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, incredibly rude, especially to an Ala. Fine, if he's
39:55
Speaker 3: not well enough or he might still have symptoms, maybe
39:57
Speaker 3: he doesn't want to get Natiya who sick postpone it say, yep,
40:01
Speaker 3: we've had to counsel it.
40:02
Speaker 2: Cheezy a friend call exactly well, but.
40:04
Speaker 3: He's already in the United States, is they he's in Washington.
40:08
Speaker 3: Let's turn to Queensland. Premier Stephen Miles is now under
40:12
Speaker 3: scrutiny for taking two jets during his five day crime
40:16
Speaker 3: policy tour. Caleb, what has these politicians obsession with private planes?
40:22
Speaker 1: I know, and it's been worked out that they could
40:24
Speaker 1: well have taken commercial flights on every single one of
40:28
Speaker 1: those routes with the times lining up almost exactly to
40:32
Speaker 1: the times that these private planes took off, and they
40:35
Speaker 1: went all up regional Queensland and whatever and all they
40:38
Speaker 1: had to do to get I mean, they took two plants, right,
40:40
Speaker 1: they could have had it down to one plane if
40:42
Speaker 1: they'd simply booted one or two staffers off and made
40:46
Speaker 1: them fly commercial. They should all have been flying commercial
40:49
Speaker 1: in the first place. But all it would have taken
40:51
Speaker 1: is to put two people on a commercial flight and
40:54
Speaker 1: you would have have the cost which, by the way,
40:56
Speaker 1: we still have not been told to go on this
40:59
Speaker 1: you know, magical mystery tour to go and tell Queensland
41:02
Speaker 1: is how a you're going to fix the youth crime
41:03
Speaker 1: crisis that you haven't been able to fix for the
41:05
Speaker 1: last four years.
41:07
Speaker 2: It is a lot than that.
41:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, but it is an absolute outrage and
41:12
Speaker 1: the fact that no one, be it Miles or any
41:16
Speaker 1: of his advisors. I wonder, coming into an election year,
41:20
Speaker 1: what people will think and a cost of living crisis
41:23
Speaker 1: that we spend money on two private plans to go
41:26
Speaker 1: and lecture people in regional Queensland about how we're finally
41:29
Speaker 1: going to fix the youth crime crisis. How will people
41:32
Speaker 1: look at that? No one thought about that?
41:34
Speaker 3: Just extraordinary, Keith Pitt, you're obviously a politician. We've seen
41:38
Speaker 3: the same trend of private jet use by Anthony Alberizi
41:43
Speaker 3: and Labor taking two private jets to a climate change
41:47
Speaker 3: sustainability announcement. You know, is there something that afflicts both
41:51
Speaker 3: sides of politics? Do you think when you guys are
41:53
Speaker 3: back in government, maybe you shouldn't use the private jets.
41:58
Speaker 13: Shari.
41:58
Speaker 17: It's a big country and one of the things you've
42:01
Speaker 17: got a great shortage of in politics's time, so that
42:04
Speaker 17: there are always times when it is actually the smart move.
42:07
Speaker 17: If you're the Prime Minister and leader of the opposition,
42:10
Speaker 17: there are genuine reasons to do it. But I think
42:12
Speaker 17: Steven Miles they should change his nickname from Giggles to Stevie.
42:16
Speaker 2: Two planes.
42:17
Speaker 13: I think mister.
42:19
Speaker 17: Bonds hit it right.
42:19
Speaker 1: On the head.
42:21
Speaker 17: It was a silly, silly thing to do in an
42:23
Speaker 17: election year. It could have been easily avoided, and it's
42:26
Speaker 17: not like he has a shortage of staff. He could
42:28
Speaker 17: have shed any number. He's got dozens and dozens of
42:31
Speaker 17: them that could have gone on a commercial flight, met
42:33
Speaker 17: them there on site, used the advances and cut it
42:36
Speaker 17: back to one plane and Bob's your uncle. You can
42:38
Speaker 17: probably make the case and make the argument, but it
42:41
Speaker 17: doesn't help a single person that had their cast ale
42:43
Speaker 17: on this week. It doesn't help a single person who
42:45
Speaker 17: had their homebreaken into, It doesn't address youth crime, and
42:49
Speaker 17: it just makes queenless Anne Labor once again look foolish
42:52
Speaker 17: and uncaring about what the cost of living is for
42:54
Speaker 17: every single Queensland I think that's.
42:57
Speaker 3: The problem, kayl We ain't a quest of living christ
43:00
Speaker 3: Families are struggling to just literally provide food, clothing, basic
43:05
Speaker 3: amenities for their children, parents, for their families, even at
43:09
Speaker 3: the cost of going to school, uniforms.
43:12
Speaker 2: Textbooks, etc.
43:14
Speaker 3: And yet you see these politicians taking private jets when
43:18
Speaker 3: there are commercial flights available, as you say, and.
43:22
Speaker 2: You know, the issue is they forget what it's like.
43:24
Speaker 3: And anyone who has caught an interstate flight lately knows
43:28
Speaker 3: that half the time it's canceled.
43:30
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter which our line it is, whether it's virgin.
43:32
Speaker 3: Orquite as they count half the time they counceled half
43:35
Speaker 3: the time.
43:36
Speaker 2: And they're so expensive.
43:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah they are. I mean I flew down to
43:41
Speaker 1: Melbourne and back on the weekend and the price is
43:44
Speaker 1: probably twice what it was two years ago. And I
43:46
Speaker 1: know that was coming out of COVID and they really
43:48
Speaker 1: wanted people to take flights. But the prices aren't going down.
43:51
Speaker 1: But where's the accountability here? I mean, you know, our
43:54
Speaker 1: friend Bronwin Bishop, who was on this panel earlier, of
43:57
Speaker 1: course many years ago, got caught using a private helicops.
44:00
Speaker 1: The cost of that helicopter was five grand which she
44:03
Speaker 1: repaid and she paid for doing that with her speakership.
44:07
Speaker 1: She lost her speakership ultimately didn't matter. The multiple times
44:11
Speaker 1: that we have seen since then politicians do things like this,
44:15
Speaker 1: people like Monique Ryan flying from Melbourne to Canberra business
44:19
Speaker 1: class every week, which is less than an hour's flight.
44:22
Speaker 1: You don't need to do that. Have we seen a
44:24
Speaker 1: single one of these people like Miles pay with their
44:27
Speaker 1: job or or any consequences.
44:29
Speaker 3: She is actually worse than that because we've seen a
44:32
Speaker 3: grandmother in Perth bashed because of the incompetence of Andrew
44:38
Speaker 3: Giles and the government. A reason that should actually have
44:42
Speaker 3: seen someone be stacked sack should actually have led to
44:46
Speaker 3: minister all accountability, but you just don't get it under
44:48
Speaker 3: this government because the Prime Minister thinks it's a sign
44:51
Speaker 3: of strength not to sack ministers rather than holding them
44:54
Speaker 3: accountable and up to a high standard. Well, Keith and Caleb,
44:58
Speaker 3: thank you both very much for joining me to Night.
45:00
Speaker 2: After the Break.
45:01
Speaker 3: A revolutionary blood test that can deduct heart attacks and
45:05
Speaker 3: strokes and patients has been developed right here in Australia.
45:09
Speaker 3: I'll be joined by the lead researcher live next Welcome back,
45:18
Speaker 3: Well Melbourne scientists have developed a revolutionary new blood test
45:22
Speaker 3: set to save lives by predicting the risk of heart
45:25
Speaker 3: attacks and strokes. And I'm pleased to say the head
45:28
Speaker 3: of metabolomics laboratory at the Baker Institute, Professor Peter Mikkel,
45:33
Speaker 3: joins me. Now, Professor, this sounds remarkable. How does it
45:37
Speaker 3: actually work?
45:41
Speaker 14: So the technology that we're using Sharhi is a process
45:45
Speaker 14: called lipidomics. And so what that allows us to do
45:48
Speaker 14: is take the same blood sample that you would normally
45:50
Speaker 14: give for a cholesterol test or that type of thing,
45:53
Speaker 14: but we measure about two hundred and fifty different lipid
45:57
Speaker 14: species within that single blood sample, and then we use
46:01
Speaker 14: an AI based algorithm to combine all the information from
46:05
Speaker 14: those different lipid species into a risk score that's then
46:08
Speaker 14: better able to predict cardiovascular risk.
46:11
Speaker 3: And is it accurate? Have you been able to determine
46:14
Speaker 3: whether it can in fact accurately predict whether someone is
46:18
Speaker 3: likely to have a heart attack or a stroke.
46:23
Speaker 14: Yeah. Look, So the way that this will work is
46:26
Speaker 14: we won't be replacing the existing tests. So there's already
46:29
Speaker 14: a heart health check and the part Foundation has just
46:33
Speaker 14: released an no CVD risk score will be utilizing that.
46:37
Speaker 14: But what we'll be doing. Is the current test that
46:40
Speaker 14: classify people is either low, intermediate or high risk. And
46:45
Speaker 14: those people that are intermediate, so neither low nor high,
46:48
Speaker 14: that presents a clinical challenge. And so what we'll be
46:52
Speaker 14: doing is retesting those intermediate risk people and then reclassifying
46:56
Speaker 14: a portion of those which contain most of the individuals
47:00
Speaker 14: who go on to have a cardiovascular event into that
47:03
Speaker 14: high risk group. And so of course then they can
47:05
Speaker 14: be effectively treated.
47:07
Speaker 3: And so how will this work? How soon will it
47:10
Speaker 3: be available to people? Is it something that anyone could
47:13
Speaker 3: go to their doctor, their GP to get this blood test.
47:18
Speaker 13: Now?
47:18
Speaker 14: So, look what we've done is we've developed the test,
47:21
Speaker 14: We've validated the test in large population cohorts. But we
47:25
Speaker 14: now need to do a clinical trial with this test.
47:27
Speaker 14: So this is going to take about two years, and
47:29
Speaker 14: we'll be starting this next year. So once that's done,
47:34
Speaker 14: at the same time, we'll be developing the clinical platform
47:37
Speaker 14: so that we'll be ready to roll this out to
47:40
Speaker 14: the public probably about the end of twenty six And so.
47:44
Speaker 3: If someone is in that intermediary range and they are
47:47
Speaker 3: told that they could actually be at high risk of
47:51
Speaker 3: heart attack, what steps would they then need to take
47:54
Speaker 3: to lower that risk and is it something.
47:56
Speaker 2: They then have a repeat test, say once a year.
48:01
Speaker 14: So typically if you're classified as high risk, then you'd
48:04
Speaker 14: go on a statin therapy, so to lower your cholesterol,
48:08
Speaker 14: you'd go on a blood pressure medication if your blood
48:12
Speaker 14: pressure was high. They're the two mainline treatments for cardiovascular risk,
48:17
Speaker 14: but of course there are other types of blood cholesterol
48:21
Speaker 14: lowering medication that are used in some instances. The idea
48:26
Speaker 14: is that yes, you would have a repeat test and
48:29
Speaker 14: that might be yearly or every second year.
48:32
Speaker 3: Look it sounds amazing, and look, good luck with the
48:34
Speaker 3: clinical trial. And thank you very much for explaining it
48:37
Speaker 3: all to us tonight. Thank you, professor, and it's great
48:40
Speaker 3: to be back. Great to see you all this evening.
48:41
Speaker 3: I'll see you tomorrow at eight o'clock. And right now,
48:44
Speaker 3: here's Paul Murray.