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Chuck & Buck 2-13 Hour 2: 12th Man news with Gregg Bell, Dustin Nickerson and a bonkers trade proposal! · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: First spot, just kind of saying I love this city, ay,
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  Speaker 1: and I got a few things for y'all. First, we
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: did not care. A second, we still don't care.
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  Speaker 2: I just gotta say, none of this will be possible
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  Speaker 2: without y'all. Appreciate y'all. I appreciate the way y'all embraced me.
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  Speaker 2: I know I didn't get drafted here. I know I
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  Speaker 2: didn't start my career here, but I just knew as
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  Speaker 2: soon as I got here this is a special place.
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  Speaker 2: The way y'all backed this team through the the through
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  Speaker 2: the good.
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  Speaker 3: And the bad.
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  Speaker 2: Man, I just knew a specially man. It takes, it
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  Speaker 2: takes a journey. It takes a whole community to push
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  Speaker 2: in the right direction to get to this point. And
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate y'all. And hey, we not done. We coming
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  Speaker 2: back next year.
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  Speaker 1: Yah.
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  Speaker 4: Who was the last one?
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  Speaker 1: Williams?
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  Speaker 5: Oh?
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  Speaker 4: That whole thing was First, it was a j barner.
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  Speaker 6: We did not care.
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  Speaker 7: Then Yeah, the last whole thing was Leonard.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, I knew the Leonard, but I didn't hear him
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  Speaker 6: say I ain't blanking leaving.
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  Speaker 7: Hey, you know there was lots of swearing that happened.
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  Speaker 6: Why was why was he even thinking that we were
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  Speaker 6: thinking he was leaving. I don't know, he's not free agent.
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  Speaker 6: Was he thinking about think did he think we thought
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  Speaker 6: he was retiring?
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  Speaker 7: I don't know.
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  Speaker 8: All I know is that was marked is Leonard Williams,
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  Speaker 8: and I.
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  Speaker 9: I think he means he's never leaving Seattle ever. He
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  Speaker 9: loves it here so much. He's never even going on vacation.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, he's gonna cement his feet to the ground here.
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  Speaker 4: Yes A J.
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  Speaker 6: Barner Leonard Williams from the parade earlier this week. I
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  Speaker 6: do like me the big cat man. I like, I
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  Speaker 6: like the way he comes off. I like the way
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  Speaker 6: that he's embraced the city. He just seems like he
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  Speaker 6: just seems so miserable in his first half of his career,
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  Speaker 6: and it's like now he seems so content and so wealthy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: And I'm glad that happened for you, Yeah, and for
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  Speaker 6: Seahawk fans.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah mostly, Yeah, for all of us.
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  Speaker 6: Right right, seven o'clock hour here on a Friday, Welcome
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  Speaker 6: into the radio show Second Hour. We've got a cash
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  Speaker 6: at ninety three to three khr dot com for your
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  Speaker 6: shot at one thousand dollars in powerplay cash. We've also
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  Speaker 6: got some headlines that I'm going to rip through quickly,
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  Speaker 6: brought to you by frostbrewed cores like choose Chill.
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  Speaker 4: What a week it's.
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  Speaker 6: Been here in Seattle, celebrating a Super Bowl championship and
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  Speaker 6: the NFL offseason well underway. Certainly, the conversations are well underway.
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  Speaker 6: Combines in less than two weeks, and the NFL free
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  Speaker 6: agency period begins in less than a month, so we
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  Speaker 6: dive right into that with Greg Bell here in a
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  Speaker 6: matter of seconds. The NBA's All Star weekend is upon US.
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  Speaker 6: Slam dunk contests tomorrow will feature no one you've heard
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  Speaker 6: of unless you remember Jackson Hayes, the muscle bound Texas
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  Speaker 6: big man from a couple of years ago, Ashley Shaking.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 6: Otherwise, there's nobody you've heard of. But at least the
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  Speaker 6: champion won't be from the CBA this year. There you go,
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  Speaker 6: like it has been the last three years. College Basketball
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  Speaker 6: ub host Minnesota tomorrow night at six pm. Danny Sprinkles
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  Speaker 6: never needed to win more. The Olympics team USA one
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  Speaker 6: on the hockey ice yesterday their first game five to
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  Speaker 6: one over Latvia.
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  Speaker 4: Take that Latvia.
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  Speaker 6: They will play against Sunday against Denmark, and of course
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  Speaker 6: Mariner spring training is underway from Peoria. We're going to
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  Speaker 6: dive headlong into Mariner spring training when we are there,
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  Speaker 6: starting Monday morning here on Chuck and Buck. We'll talk
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  Speaker 6: a little bit more about it later on in the show,
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  Speaker 6: but right now, let's welcome our Seahawks insider, Greg Bell.
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  Speaker 5: With the bell tolls.
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  Speaker 10: It must be seven o'clock and time for twelfth Man
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  Speaker 10: Now with plump Man News, here's Greg Bell with Chuck
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  Speaker 10: and Bud.
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  Speaker 4: Good morning, Greg, Good morning.
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  Speaker 6: All right, you get a whole week off next week, unless,
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  Speaker 6: of course, may see his name, then we'll bug you.
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  Speaker 5: Well, you'll be in Arizona. You don't, you won't even
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  Speaker 5: think Seahawks will be Mariners to the wall. That's good.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, they hire a no offensive coordinator. Yeah, we're calling you.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we call you unfortunately. M Yeah, so don't don't.
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  Speaker 6: Turn your phone off, Greg, I mean, I guess we
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  Speaker 6: could call somebody else.
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  Speaker 4: I really don't want.
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  Speaker 5: To m h.
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  Speaker 4: Al right, okay, Oh we're gonna have fun. Don't worry.
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  Speaker 4: Our plan is to talk. Our plan is to.
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  Speaker 6: Talk all baseball next week. But I'm just saying you're good.
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  Speaker 4: Things happened. Things happened.
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  Speaker 5: It's a little early in that frea good.
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  Speaker 6: No, this is we always go this week. Now it
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  Speaker 6: is a week earlier because of the WBC. It's a
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  Speaker 6: WBC or so it's a little bit earlier.
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  Speaker 5: I remember from covering my many years covering spring trainings
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  Speaker 5: as a beat writer. But there was frost on the
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  Speaker 5: ground and little nippy in the February part of spring
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  Speaker 5: training bucket.
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  Speaker 9: I had to forge towel pants. Yeah, a couple of
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  Speaker 9: years ago. Yeah, it was my first year. They went right,
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  Speaker 9: and I just didn't. I was actually spring training. I
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  Speaker 9: took I never took pants to spring training. And that
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  Speaker 9: was because usually when you're running around, I didn't get cold,
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  Speaker 9: and yet usually at six am. Yeah, that's true.
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  Speaker 8: Together year you had to get a coat and then
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  Speaker 8: Steven Susan made fun of you because it was small.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, well that's the fat guy in little coat. That happens.
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  Speaker 9: For what it's worth Mule and them. They don't bring
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  Speaker 9: jackets for three hundred and fifty pound guys. Uh, spring
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  Speaker 9: training for some reason.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know why.
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  Speaker 6: One year you had to drop firewood if I remember,
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  Speaker 6: and uh forma a little small roasting pit.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, has to warm your tutsis. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Nobody else called tutsis when they're doing spring training coverage.
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  Speaker 6: Anyway, we we hope that we can give you a
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  Speaker 6: week away from us because you've earned it. But let's
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  Speaker 6: go ahead and launch into this off season and some
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  Speaker 6: of the conversations that are going to be held here
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  Speaker 6: over the course of the next month. And let's start
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  Speaker 6: with Ocie. Where's it sit right now? What do you
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  Speaker 6: expect to come out in the wash?
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  Speaker 5: They're interviewing internal candidates. McDonald said Monday told us as
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  Speaker 5: early as Tuesday they were going to start interviewing internal candidates.
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  Speaker 5: Says that Hot and Uh, Dick, Pete and Jinoko those
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  Speaker 5: are the three on the staff who immediately come to
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  Speaker 5: mind as someone that would be interested in doing that.
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  Speaker 5: And incidentally, Frismond Jackson is being interviewed by Kubiak for
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  Speaker 5: the offense of coordinator with the Raiders, and that tells
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  Speaker 5: you if they're going to the sea wide receiver coach
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  Speaker 5: who has been here even before them tell got here,
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  Speaker 5: then they are keeping their main guys. And I've been
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  Speaker 5: told that they're keeping their main guys. I mean offensive
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  Speaker 5: line codes, the quarterbacks coach, they know, the offensive line coach,
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  Speaker 5: John Betton. As I'd mentioned, it is so key to
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  Speaker 5: what they do, what they did this year, and what
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  Speaker 5: they do going forward. So it doesn't look like it's
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  Speaker 5: going to be the raid of the Seahawks staff by
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  Speaker 5: click Kubiak. He wasn't here long enough to have that
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  Speaker 5: cachet with Mike McDonald. McDonald's not going to let him
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  Speaker 5: come in here and leaving just one year and take
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  Speaker 5: all the main key assistance with them to the Raiders
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  Speaker 5: that appears.
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  Speaker 9: Gee, help me understand that part, because I don't know.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, I get what you're saying, where he's like, well,
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  Speaker 9: you've only been here one year. You don't get to
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  Speaker 9: just bring in guys or take guys on your way out.
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  Speaker 9: And yet I mean, I don't understand how they could
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  Speaker 9: stop him. Was it just a gentleman's agreement, like hey,
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  Speaker 9: we're letting you finish, you know, finish off this deal
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  Speaker 9: with the Raiders, maybe a little bit prematurely, or or
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  Speaker 9: just hey, we understand you're going to get some interest
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  Speaker 9: to be a head coach. Don't go trying to dismantle
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  Speaker 9: us from the inside out.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's exactly that they if push came to shove.
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  Speaker 5: NFL rules are if you offer an assistant coach a
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  Speaker 5: promotion both in pay and title, that you can't as
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  Speaker 5: a team block that. But it's McDonald just talking to
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  Speaker 5: the side of kuby X and wait a minute, you
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  Speaker 5: just got here. You're going to be rift our staff,
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  Speaker 5: And yes, it's that. And it's the relationships that McDonald
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  Speaker 5: has with his assistance, including Kubiak, that would prevent that.
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  Speaker 5: But you're right by a rule. If the Raiders offered,
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  Speaker 5: say Andrew Jenoco the quarterbacks coach, a often's a coordinator
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  Speaker 5: job both of raising title and pay. The can officially
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  Speaker 5: cannot officially blalok.
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  Speaker 6: him at g Bell Seattle throughout the all season, but
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  Speaker 6: the NFL has decided to give him like seven hours
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  Speaker 6: to rest and relax and recover from a long football
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  Speaker 6: season of coverage. Let's talk about Ken Walker. That seems
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  Speaker 6: to be the number one off season story. I'm sure
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  Speaker 6: they want to keep him. How does it look in
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  Speaker 6: terms of whether or not they will keep him.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not sure they want to keep him because they've
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  Speaker 5: had a chance to keep him now for a year.
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  Speaker 5: I understood why this time last year they didn't want
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  Speaker 5: to give Hi an extension his injury history, the injury
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  Speaker 5: history of the position, but not now and not during
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  Speaker 5: the season either. When they did the job share with Charbon.
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  Speaker 5: A part of it was to manage keath Walker through
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  Speaker 5: the season and get him through seventeen games, playing them
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  Speaker 5: all for the first time in his career. Part of
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  Speaker 5: it also was an audition for Zach charbonay to see
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  Speaker 5: if he would be worthy of a lead back roll.
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  Speaker 5: Charbon's contract ends after next year because he was drafted
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  Speaker 5: a year after Walker. Cheaper younger is usually the way
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  Speaker 5: NFL teams either want to go have to go because
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  Speaker 5: of the salary cap, and if the Seahawks deem that
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  Speaker 5: Charbon A can produce at something of the level of
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  Speaker 5: Walker in this offense, then they would let Walker walk.
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  Speaker 5: And it looked like that was what most of the
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  Speaker 5: season it was going to be. And then charbon A
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  Speaker 5: has a season ending injury in ACL tear that will
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  Speaker 5: take eight to twelve months to recover. He had happened
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  Speaker 5: in January, which means mid August at the earliest is
• 10:27
  Speaker 5: the typical return time from ACM. Mid August is the
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  Speaker 5: middle Attorney camp to me, Shabonay injury changed everything. The
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  Speaker 5: problem with the Seahawks now if they want to come
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  Speaker 5: back to Walker is his price. Of course, will never
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  Speaker 5: be hired twenty five year old Super Bowl MVP who
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  Speaker 5: carried it through the playoffs. But also Walker has new
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  Speaker 5: representatives as of three weeks ago, as we've talked about
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  Speaker 5: a few times, he fired his agents and hired David
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  Speaker 5: Canter and the Eurosports Group based in Florida the week
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  Speaker 5: of the NFC title game. So his new agents don't
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  Speaker 5: have any reason for say to say to Kenneth Walker,
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  Speaker 5: you should listen to the Seahawks offer. They have every
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  Speaker 5: reason to say they had their chance, go try free
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  Speaker 5: agency and see how much the market will bear you,
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  Speaker 5: this is the first time in your life you could
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  Speaker 5: be open market, free agent, open to the highest bidder.
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  Speaker 5: And now that they're only four weeks from that market opening,
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  Speaker 5: March ninth is the negotiating window. March eleventh is when
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  Speaker 5: officially the deals can be creating, deals can get announced.
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  Speaker 5: I see very little reason for Walker to accept whatever
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  Speaker 5: the seahawks eleventh hour offer might be. But having said
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  Speaker 5: all of that, he definitely does want to stay here.
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  Speaker 5: And they all say that after they win a Super Bowl,
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  Speaker 5: of course, but it's true in Walker's case, he has
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  Speaker 5: said that from the start, this is where he wants
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  Speaker 5: to be. He's very comfortable. He somewhat likes the behind
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  Speaker 5: the scenes nature that the Seahawks usually are around the
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  Speaker 5: league and being out here in Southeast Alaska as we are,
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  Speaker 5: and he's got a coaching staff that obviously values the
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  Speaker 5: run a game, which Walker couldn't say that the whole
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  Speaker 5: four years he was here. They will make a play
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  Speaker 5: for him. It's a question of how tempted Walker will
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  Speaker 5: be to see what his open value market is. I
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  Speaker 5: think if it goes to free agency, he's gone. I
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  Speaker 5: think he'll get a deal that Sieluks won't want to match.
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  Speaker 5: But we've mentioned before NFL general managers are very leary
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  Speaker 5: of giving big bucks multi year contracts for running backs
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  Speaker 5: because of their injury history.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, Greg, I'm with you, and so of the rest
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  Speaker 9: of the free agents or free agents to be I mean,
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  Speaker 9: give me a guy that you think might be top
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  Speaker 9: of their list to give money met. We have Rashid Shaheed,
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  Speaker 9: Rik Wolan, probably Boy Mafe, Kobe Bryant, and Josh Joe Ball,
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  Speaker 9: all significant players on the Super Bowl championship team. Of
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  Speaker 9: those guys, if they're going to dish out the big
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  Speaker 9: money and it's not, if it's not to Ken Walker,
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  Speaker 9: who who would you think it's going to be.
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  Speaker 5: I think Rashid Shaheed, and I think they could get
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  Speaker 5: him in a deal. It wouldn't be as rich as
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  Speaker 5: but Walker's because of the position he's an All Pro
• 13:04
  Speaker 5: Pro Bowl kick returner and not so much as Hugh
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  Speaker 5: brought out yesterday, top wide receiver. They think they have
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  Speaker 5: a top wide receiver that's going to be back in
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  Speaker 5: time for training camp next year, Tory Horton. And we've
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  Speaker 5: only seen half of the season of what Tory Horton
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  Speaker 5: could be and the two touchdowns against Washington. He looked
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  Speaker 5: everything like why they drafted him, and that was the
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  Speaker 5: game that he had the season nying injury. They believe
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  Speaker 5: he's going to be back in time for training camp.
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  Speaker 5: In fact, Tory Horton, my photographer shot a picture Tory
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  Speaker 5: Horton walking the parade round on Wednesday, which is a
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  Speaker 5: good sign that his leg is signed to play. So
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  Speaker 5: they think they have the receiver the deep the speedy
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  Speaker 5: deep threat receiver in Horton, and they could keep the
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  Speaker 5: speedy deep threat while the game changing kick returner in
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  Speaker 5: Rashid Shaheed proclaimed the first day he was here that
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  Speaker 5: he wants to retire here. He elected so much in
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  Speaker 5: Seattle and then he did what he did, and I said,
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  Speaker 5: you could argue was an MVP of the second half
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  Speaker 5: of the season, including that Rams comeback game and the
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  Speaker 5: jump started a division championship, a division playoff game against
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  Speaker 5: the forty nine ers. I think she heats Dan and
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  Speaker 5: I think that's the first priority. I think that might
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  Speaker 5: be the first re up signing we're going to hear
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  Speaker 5: the offseason. They have a depth of corners that we know.
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  Speaker 5: They've had three corners playing two spots. Job Woolen and Witherspoon.
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  Speaker 5: I think Woolan's gonna end up leaving, and he's been
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  Speaker 5: valuable to the team that he also is going to
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  Speaker 5: command money for as much playing time as he had
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  Speaker 5: of the rookie contract and the fact that he was
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  Speaker 5: a pro bowler as a rookie, and he has unique
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  Speaker 5: physical talents. Again, players that are this close to being
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  Speaker 5: a free agent for the first time generational wealth, we're
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  Speaker 5: talking one hundred million dollar plus tend to go find
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  Speaker 5: that market and see.
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  Speaker 6: What it is of Bryant and Job which is more
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  Speaker 6: likely to stay.
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  Speaker 5: I think it would take more to keep Kobe Bryant,
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  Speaker 5: who has started more and played more snaps. When other
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: teams look at him, they would value him more. I
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: think Mike McDonald would value keeping their starting safety. He
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: really likes Kobe Bryant. I think Joe could stay and
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  Speaker 5: it wouldn't be as expensive part time starter, former waiver
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  Speaker 5: pickup from Philadelphia. I think they keep both, but the
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  Speaker 5: money guy would cost him a little more and they
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  Speaker 5: will spend on is Kobe Bryant. Again, they have seventy
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  Speaker 5: three million dollars in sorry cap space, which is a
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  Speaker 5: lot of money for them. At this time. But part
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: of the reason, guys they have that much money. They
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  Speaker 5: have only forty three players under contract for next year
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  Speaker 5: and you're going to have fifty three any active roster.
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  Speaker 5: So they got to buy ten spots. And when you
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: buy ten spots, that gets gobbled up rather quickly. It
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  Speaker 5: makes it interesting how much money they're going to offer
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  Speaker 5: their big free agent, their key free agent starters are
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  Speaker 5: due to free agency.
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  Speaker 6: Well, what is number one on the shopping list? If
• 16:04
  Speaker 6: if John gets to splurge on something not in the house,
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: what position do you think that he's going to target.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's the line of scrimmage. I think they're
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  Speaker 5: going to add to the competition for Anthony Bradford of Redguard.
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  Speaker 5: I think they're going to add to linebacker, even though
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: Drake Thomas was an out of nowhere find inside weakside
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  Speaker 5: linebacker next to Ernest Jones. And they don't have enough
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  Speaker 5: depth of the defensive line because they never have enough
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  Speaker 5: depth of defensive line. As great as his front four played,
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  Speaker 5: they played a lot of snaps this year. Byron Murphy
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  Speaker 5: went way up, I mean from forty nine to seventy percent.
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  Speaker 5: Leonard Williams is not getting younger thirty three. Neither is
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  Speaker 5: the Marcus Lawrence will be thirty four next year or
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  Speaker 5: next season. They need depth. It's the defensive line bringing back.
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: Jaron reed to a question the locker room leader, he's
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: going to get offered a deal, probably a shorter term deal.
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: He loves Seattle and is such an integral part of
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: that locker room. I think he'll be back with a
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: probably a one year deal rather than a multi year
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: deal that he's gotten up to now. It's a good
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: problem to have a lot of players who want to
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: be here, a lot of good players, but you can't
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: keep everybody. The league just won't let you. It's the
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: way of cre agency in the subwary gift.
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt.
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: All right, So how are you going to spend your
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: seven hours for relaxation?
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: I just realized last night that Valentine's Day is tomorrow.
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: I didn't know it.
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah, And Friday the thirteenth is today. So if you
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: haven't bought Wendy a seventh head yet to celebrate the
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: Friday the thirteenth holiday, you better get on it.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: Stars are selling out fast.
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: That's true. I got well, she has a lot of
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: severed heads, so those. He's bored with that gift cool.
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: One of our traditions of our marriage that I really enjoy.
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: Early in our marriage we lived in Oakland, went out
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: to dinner and we had a bad experience, and we
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: decided that the best servers stay home on Valentine's Day
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: and they bring out the rookies, and so ever since
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: then we have homemade lasagna and homemade brownie. I ended
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: up making the brownies and lazagna at home. Do that
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: really decadent? I do like Beecher's cheese and all this sin,
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: But it's a yeah, that's that's.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: What we're gonna do, Tomor how about belly fla here? Yeah?
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: No, look at him, he's got a nagging.
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: I cooked a little bit that It's not an array
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: of things, but I have a few states.
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: Is that your Is that your specialty? Like if you
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: had to make a dish? Uh, you know that determined
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: your happiness for the rest of your life. And I
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: got to judge it. What would you serve me? Would
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: it be the lasagna?
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: No, it'd be a it'd be a red pepper mushroom risotto.
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: I watch a lot of cooking shows and people can't
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: make risotto. It turns out even like expert chefs.
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: It's true. It's hard to do it very easily, can
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: make it gravel. It tastes like great nuts. So you
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: got there's a there's a fine line, A lot of
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: red wine. Excuse me, white wine. A lot of white
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: wine if you put in the trick for me.
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: Okay, all right, Well, have a romantic Friday the thirteenth
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: and Valentine's Day over the next couple of days. Thank
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: you so much for everything. We are going to do
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: our best not to bug you next year.
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you always say.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: That, Well, I'm gonna try. I'm really gonna try, but
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: you never know.
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: I'm getting getting you to Arizona might keep me out
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: of here.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: Nope, all right, Greg, thank you.
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: All right, there is our Seahawks insider, Greg Belt joining
• 19:38
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• 20:08
  Speaker 6: The hilarious Dustin Nickerson will share with us his Super
• 20:12
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• 20:14
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• 20:40
  Speaker 11: Hey, good morning, Chuck Powell, Buggy Jacobson, and Ashley Ryan
• 20:43
  Speaker 11: with you here on this Friday morning, transition day into
• 20:47
  Speaker 11: our spring training coverage next week of the Mariners, and
• 20:51
  Speaker 11: of course, our farewell to the NFL season that ended
• 20:56
  Speaker 11: in a championship.
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: Of course we dive headlong into the office we've already
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: started here on this Friday. But this is us finally,
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: uh waving and kissing goodbye to a beautiful football season
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: here in Seattle and joining us now on the radio
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: program Seahawk Fan, hilarious Seahawks celebrity type, and our good
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: friend Dustin Nickerson is with us right here on Chuck
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: and Buck in the Morning. Hello, sir, congratulations on your
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: Super Bowl title. Thank you.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: One of these times I'm going to get like a
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: proper compliment from you in my introduction, like like not
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: not not a celebrity type, but maybe just maybe it's
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: a celebrity maybe you know, this guy is fame adjacent.
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: I loved you into the category with Chris Pratt and
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: everybody all celebrity types.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: I put you in that poll there. Yeah, that's what
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: I did. We are all celebrity types.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, thank you for the congratulations.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: I worked very hard. I earned this through you.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: Didn't much stress many steps, So thank you. It's been
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: it's been a fun, fun few days to be a
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: really it's been a fun month and a half to
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: be a Seahawks fan.
• 22:17
  Speaker 9: Did you have to watch any of it through your hands?
• 22:19
  Speaker 9: I had watched. I know you were on a cruise,
• 22:21
  Speaker 9: you were with other celebrity types and BARGATCHI and whatnot.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: There was actual celebrities in that room.
• 22:29
  Speaker 9: Types I would so I knew that you were gonna
• 22:33
  Speaker 9: be like, I'm so excited to watch it by myself.
• 22:35
  Speaker 9: Did you watch any of it through your hands or
• 22:37
  Speaker 9: was it pretty easy watching for you?
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: My my listen, I was I was paid to be
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: on that boat, and so it was important that I, uh,
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: you know, be a team player as far as the
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: gatherings go the social gathering. So I told myself, I'm
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: going to go watch the first half here, and as
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: long as things don't get out of hand one way
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: or the other too stressful, uh, then then I'll stay
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: for the whole game. And uh, and the fact that
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Nate's paying for the open bar that will probably help
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: me get through it in a lot of different ways.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: Ends up very stressful, stress free, uh as far as
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: games go, and the open bar really became more of
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: a celebratory open bar. So I watched it all amongst
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: amongst some people who are really bored by the game,
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: which is the best, people who are complaining about the
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: game as you're celebrating.
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: All right, so you've sort of, you know, let it
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: be known, you know, in one of your catchphrases as
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: a or as a Seattle sports fan, is never a doubt,
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: even when there often is a lot of doubt. So
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: did when did you let go of your doubt during
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: the Super Bowl?
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: Probably? Yeah, probably Drake's pick.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: That's probably the one where because you know, after they
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: scored the touchdown, it didn't look like that.
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: I mean, you just.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: Go if I played this game with you guys, A
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: lot objective, subjective, subjective or objective. I would go listen,
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: that was a fluke touchdown. There's no way they can
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: keep this going. That was too lucky plays subjective. I'm going, well,
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: here comes the collapse. Here we go, this is how
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: it starts. Here we go again one more time being
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: a Seattle sports fan. What way are they gonna hurt
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: me this time? But once he threw the pick a
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: terrible just right over to anyone, I mean, just who
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: wants it pick? I thought, oh, he might not be
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: very good. And then then it felt pretty good. And
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: I went and I got someone else. I went and
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: got myself some more. I got myself another hot pretzel,
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: full hot pretzels being served.
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: Wow. Leave that.
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well it's a cruise ship. You can get all
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: the food.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: You want, right exactly.
• 25:05
  Speaker 9: Yeah, open bar and full preps.
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: Wow. What experience? And a win all right exactly?
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: And a win?
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: What a life?
• 25:13
  Speaker 9: What possessed you to wear slash purchase the lucidor mask
• 25:18
  Speaker 9: and the poncho thing that I saw you were in?
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: Well, you know I had spent the day in Coasta Maya, Mexico.
• 25:27
  Speaker 9: When in Rome, that was our that was our land.
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: Day.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: That was our day where we were actually in Mexico,
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: and and I was cruising the shops and saw the poncho,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: and then a few shops later I saw the mask
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: and I thought, well, I mean when in Rome, I
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: think this is uh, I think this is meant.
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: To be so.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and also in large party, did you know it
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: did hide some of my negative facial expressions, which my
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: wife preferred because she's like, hey, everyone's having a lot
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: of fun on this cruise and you're kind of bringing
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: the vibes down. And I said, I'm sorry that I
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: care too much amongst weirdos. Where do you rank amongst
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: the weirdosh? If your weirdness on your friends on the
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: ship there, oh, I would say, I'm pretty right in
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: the middle. Yeah, I don't right in the middle. Nothing crazy, okay, yeah, no,
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: nothing crazy as far as like habits or hobbies or
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: allegations or anything like that.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: That's great, pretty pretty friends, great group of friends and
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: co workers.
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: If you're the guy that's standing on the deck in
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: a Mexican wrestling mask and poncho and you're pretty much
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: in the middle, yeah of them sounds fun?
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, there's nothing there's nothing.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: Super outlandish about that.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think they're just as one of the comedians.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: I think that where they're happy that I'm just closed honestly.
• 27:00
  Speaker 9: Yeah, did you end up doing the I mean in celebration,
• 27:04
  Speaker 9: did you go to the front of the ship and
• 27:06
  Speaker 9: do like the Titanic? You know this is you know,
• 27:09
  Speaker 9: have the music playing in the background.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: Did you do that? Whole it was? I did?
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: I did?
• 27:16
  Speaker 9: There was some of that.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Really what happened is as soon as the clocks hit zero,
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: the three zeros, because I was I was full Cooper Cup,
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: you know I was when I saw three zeros.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys saw that.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: Inverew like, I'm not enjoying any of this until, you know,
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: I don't want to watch a series of four on
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: side kicks and touchdowns and we lose this somehow, I'm
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: going to wait for the three zeros. And the nice
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: thing about the Puncho really kind of doubles as a
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: cape and I did a few laps around the boat,
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: absolutely finding the various pockets of Seahawks fans who were
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: watching in various locations. It was a great time, honestly,
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: very memorable place to walk.
• 27:54
  Speaker 9: And win a super Bowl.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah.
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: And and and you've never played better shuffle board afterwards,
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: I mean, and you were just so suched on.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah you better believe it.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, win wins all around.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: All I do is win on the season. When do
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: you start worrying about next season?
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: Probably kickoff, I would say, that's the one of the
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: great feelings of you know, this is only the second
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: time this has ever happened. This where for me is
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: the Seattle sports fan is you just get You get
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: to bask and and brag and enjoy the entirety of
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: the offseason. You're it, baby, You're the one you like
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: all the news cycle and uh, it's so hard to
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: win Super Bowl, So you're so glad.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, think about the.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Vibes of Patriots fans right now, the ones you know,
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: or the way they're talking about it. It just makes
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: you real glad they want it. Because I see all
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: the preseason rankings and stuff of the Patriots and they're like,
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: I'll probably miss the playoffs and Drake will never go back.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: It makes you really happy that you want it. So
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: I don't think I'll stress it for a while. The
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: weird thing is, I don't know, if you guys are
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: getting this vibes from the fans and the columns and
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: stuff like that, I feel like it's a Seattle sports fan.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: You're almost going through an identity crisis right now because
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: now in the last you know, the Sexton won two
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: super Bowls and so you're like, wait, am I not
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: a loser anymore? Like for me, yeah, exactly, because the
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: whole identity of the Seattle sports fan has been loser. Like,
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: we lose in painful, awful, consistent ways. Even the super
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: Bowl that you did win previously almost got canceled out
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: by the most heartbreaking loss in Super Bowl history. And
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: you're like, wait a minute, are we do nice things
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: happen to us now? And I think, like the end
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: of my Wikipedia talks about how hard it is for
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: like how much I reference Seattle sports pain And I'm like,
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: am I gonna have to update with my Wikipedia?
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: Are things gonna?
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: I don't?
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: You can't update your own Wikipedia?
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: It's like, but you're just man, things might be really
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: turning around for old Dusty here, because you know, it's
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: a different it's a different identity, it's a different I'm
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: seeing the lens the you know, through different lenses. I'm
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: seeing the world through bluer eyes all of a sudden.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: The first day of the rest of your life.
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: Dustin Nickerson, That's exactly it.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: That's exactly it. Don't worry.
• 30:29
  Speaker 9: Baseball season right around the corner, and I'm guaranteed they're
• 30:31
  Speaker 9: gonna lose at least fifty times.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll tell you.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: And again, of course, listen, you root for the Mariners.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: You believe good things can happen. But for me, as
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: a Seattle sports fan, it has not been a competition
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: of can the Mariners win, Can the Seahawks win? Can
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: the crack and win. It's always been a competition of
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: are we the biggest loser? And We've been neck and
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: neck with Minneapolis and Cleveland for a long time, and
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: I just don't think we are anymore. I just don't
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: think we can rightfully stare our Minneapolis friend who cheers
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: for you know, NFL, and and the NBA and then
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: and and and and and uh, you know MLB, and
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: look at them in the eyes and go we have
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: it worse for it. That's this Super Bowl means we
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: are not the biggest losers in America anymore.
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: You've suffered a long enough. It's time for you to
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: reap the harvest of you know, your suffering. So get ready, time,
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: Get ready, time.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: That's right. Uh.
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: So, we're going to be in Arizona next week for
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: spring training. I understand you're also going to be in Arizona.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: We're going to come to your Arizonia. Yeah, we're gonna
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: come to your show.
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: Are you going to come out to spring training with
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: us at any point during the week?
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: Will you have time?
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: No, I think I'm throwing out of first pitch at
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: one of them. Actually, I think it might be at
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: the first game.
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure about. Oh, but that sounds familiar to me.
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: Oh okay, all right, well yeah, maybe you know, let
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: your friends know all the cool stuffs that's happening in
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: your life.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: He did, He told me, Well, okay, oh yeah, Astley
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: is the only one that texted me, so not true. Yeah,
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: I'll well, I'm sure we'll meet up in one way
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: or another. We'll find our way to an open bar
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: and some pretzels.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: Okay, very good?
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: All right, Well, congratulations, you worked hard for this. You
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: are a super Bowl champion.
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: Again.
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: The embarrassment of riches in your life as a sports
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: fan these days, we.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Are no longer the biggest losers. We did it, guys,
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: we did it Seattle.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: Thanks man, we'll see you next week.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: Thanks appreciate you, Bud.
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: All right, Dustin Nickerson joining us right here on Chuck
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: and But boy, he really did get dark, didn't he?
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: Because I never ever viewed Seattle, even when I didn't
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: live in Seattle in that category.
• 32:57
  Speaker 9: Uh no, no me either. Yeah, it has it is
• 33:01
  Speaker 9: not a super easy place to be a fan of
• 33:04
  Speaker 9: the teams. You know, we've been let down plenty, Yes,
• 33:08
  Speaker 9: but I wouldn't classify it as the biggest loser ever
• 33:12
  Speaker 9: near it.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't even go near it.
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: I don't even think it makes the board on Family Feud, like,
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: you know, top seven answers on the board, we're the
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: biggest you know, sports fans who've known nothing but pain. Yeah,
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: I don't even think it's top seven answers.
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: On the board.
• 33:28
  Speaker 7: What's not top seven answers on the board. I was
• 33:30
  Speaker 7: talking about.
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: Sports sports fans who've experienced the most pain and feel like,
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: you know, are we ever going to win? Like he's
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: Buck and I were just saying that we didn't think.
• 33:41
  Speaker 6: I never really put Seattle in that category maybe Mariner
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: fans once upon a time.
• 33:46
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but well, and if you think about before twenty thirteen,
• 33:50
  Speaker 8: I mean, we came close in the Skiva Bowl and
• 33:52
  Speaker 8: the ref's ruined it for us.
• 33:54
  Speaker 7: So it was like, oh, are people out to get us?
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: I get it. It's the painful way.
• 33:58
  Speaker 8: Yeah, with which and then we had something nice, and
• 34:01
  Speaker 8: then we almost had something nice twice, and then we
• 34:05
  Speaker 8: had the play that will be talked about for the
• 34:07
  Speaker 8: rest of history in the one yard line and it
• 34:09
  Speaker 8: was like, oh, no.
• 34:10
  Speaker 7: They'd you like to hurt us? Bah, they stole our basketball.
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: We are a target for pain, all right. Friday Ocho
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  Speaker 6: want to mention this. I mentioned this not long ago.
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  Speaker 6: But as the off season, as we're now kind of
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  Speaker 6: getting into the off season, focusing on the off season
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  Speaker 6: starting today, and I know we've already discussed it at times,
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  Speaker 6: but today is sort of the all Right, this is
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  Speaker 6: going to launch us into the NFL offseason. As I've mentioned,
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  Speaker 6: many teams have already been here. I threw out a
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  Speaker 6: trade proposal, maybe the trade proposal for the Ages, a
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  Speaker 6: couple of weeks ago, and we didn't have a lot
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  Speaker 6: of time to talk about it, and we don't have
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  Speaker 6: a ton of time to talk about it now, but
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  Speaker 6: I want to bring it back up since we are
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  Speaker 6: kind of transitioning into the NFL off season. I don't
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  Speaker 6: know about you two, but I get the impression from
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  Speaker 6: Clint Kubiak's opening comments about Fernando Mendoza, where I mean,
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  Speaker 6: obviously he didn't criticize the young man, but he didn't
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  Speaker 6: exactly sound over the moon about the prospects of working
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  Speaker 6: with Fernando Mendoza. Maybe that's just him tempering everybody's expectations
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  Speaker 6: out there.
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  Speaker 4: I'm wondering if there's.
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  Speaker 6: Not a blockbuster of all blockbusters that is shaping up
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  Speaker 6: right now here is the trade that I threw out
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  Speaker 6: a couple of weeks ago, the Las Vegas Raiders trade the.
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  Speaker 4: Number one overall pick in the.
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  Speaker 6: Draft, which is really worth two, maybe even three first
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  Speaker 6: rounders next year's number one as well Max Crosby, who
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  Speaker 6: doesn't want to be a Raider, and then can move
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  Speaker 6: a lot of salary by moving Max Crosby and young
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  Speaker 6: tight end Brock Bowers all in the same package to
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  Speaker 6: the Cincinnati Bengals for Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase. That's
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  Speaker 6: my trade proposal, the biggest trade in the history of
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  Speaker 6: the NFL, and I think it.
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  Speaker 4: Makes a lot of sense for both teams. Really yep.
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  Speaker 4: I mean I don't know.
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  Speaker 9: It doesn't make a lot of sense to me, but
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  Speaker 9: that's just because I don't know for sure. How good
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  Speaker 9: are you with Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase on the Raiders.
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  Speaker 9: They're long ways away from being good.
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  Speaker 6: Well, it really helps to have one of the best
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  Speaker 6: three quarterbacks in the NFL, Yeah, yeah, and one of
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  Speaker 6: the best three wide receivers in the NFL.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Well, it's a boost in a good direction. It's just
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  Speaker 9: now you don't.
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  Speaker 6: Very much be your team with those two than you
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  Speaker 6: are with Max Crosby and Brock Bauers.
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  Speaker 9: Uh, yes, yes, but you yeah for sure. Okay, but
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  Speaker 9: now you don't have any you don't have any draft capital,
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  Speaker 9: add to you don't have any first round picks for
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  Speaker 9: the next couple of years to add to the rest
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  Speaker 9: of the holes you have on the team.
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  Speaker 2: Given.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, I didn't even mention two second rounders as well,
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  Speaker 6: because I didn't put enough in there.
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  Speaker 9: Two second rounders as well. Yeah, and I mean I guess,
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  Speaker 9: I mean that's the going right Bengals.
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  Speaker 6: Joe Burrow.
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  Speaker 4: I mean I just looked at up what is the
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  Speaker 4: trade value Joe Burrow?
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  Speaker 6: Three first rounders, two second rounders, and a quality player
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  Speaker 6: or two. That's what it costs to get just a
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  Speaker 6: quarterback of that caliber. So, if anything, I'm under selling
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  Speaker 6: what Burrow and Chase together would be worth in a package.
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  Speaker 6: And and yet I do believe it's worth it to
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  Speaker 6: get one of the top three quarterbacks in the National
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  Speaker 6: Football League, get worse, one of the top five in
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  Speaker 6: his prime. Now he's got to stay healthy, but in
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  Speaker 6: his prime with his favorite target they come over. I
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  Speaker 6: mean that changes the Raiders focus entirely. They that's one
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  Speaker 6: last thing we gotta work. Two less things we gotta
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  Speaker 6: worry about. We got two of the hardest things to
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  Speaker 6: get in the in the league, a franchise quarterback in
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  Speaker 6: his prime and a wide receiver number one who can
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  Speaker 6: change games because of his playmaking bability.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: I mean on the other side, for the Bengals, if
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  Speaker 9: they were thinking, wow, it just you can't stay healthy,
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  Speaker 9: We're not I mean, we're not playing. We're not even
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  Speaker 9: getting in the playoffs right now. With them, maybe it's
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  Speaker 9: time for an absolute rebuild. That is a giant hole
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  Speaker 9: for and understandably so for giving up you know, a
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  Speaker 9: perennial Pro Bowl type caliber two of them actually, so yeah,
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  Speaker 9: I mean it makes sense if they're thinking, yep, let's
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  Speaker 9: go ahead and tear this down or just basically get
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  Speaker 9: rid of our best assets.
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  Speaker 4: And rebuild this bad boy.
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  Speaker 9: You get a couple of proven players in return in
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  Speaker 9: Bowers and and Max Crosby for sure, and then you
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  Speaker 9: can use the draft capital you could they could rebound quick.
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  Speaker 9: I see it more for them than I would see
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  Speaker 9: it for even the benefit of getting a top tier
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  Speaker 9: quarterback like Burrow. Just to me, when I see the Raiders,
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  Speaker 9: I think you're you're long ways away.
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  Speaker 7: I feel like, yeah, when I look at that trade.
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  Speaker 8: I would think it's more beneficial to the Bengals for sure,
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  Speaker 8: because of all that draft capital and how quickly they
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  Speaker 8: could either flip that around and make other moves or
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  Speaker 8: or use it and build. I think I could see it.
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  Speaker 6: Gives Cincinnati a lot more flexibility. Yeah, it doesn't strip
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  Speaker 6: them of star power. You can build around a cheap
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  Speaker 6: quarterback at number one overall, but making no mistake about it,
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  Speaker 6: Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase go to the Raiders and
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  Speaker 6: they are five games better.
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  Speaker 7: I just think the Raiders are screw it up.
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  Speaker 8: Although now they've got Clint Kubiak, so I think that
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  Speaker 8: might he's going to be a lot smarter.
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  Speaker 7: Not that Pete wasn't.
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  Speaker 8: I'm just saying that it seems like the Raiders in
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  Speaker 8: general have kind of been on, you know, downward trajectory
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  Speaker 8: and not not making the best choices.
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  Speaker 4: If they screw it up, if they screw it up,
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  Speaker 4: they screw it up.
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  Speaker 6: If everybody gets hurt in a you know, a horse
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  Speaker 6: accidental gets hurting a horse accent.
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  Speaker 7: Not another horse accent taking out a team.
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  Speaker 6: But in terms of just making a trade, like that's
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  Speaker 6: the val that the values match on that.
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  Speaker 8: I think it's just a sticker shock for me. I
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  Speaker 8: can't quite wrap my head around the whole thing, all
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