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Two Perspectives on Equestrian Life: Bridging Generations · Two Point Perspective

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  Welcome
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  to
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  the
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  very
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  first
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  episode
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  of
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  the
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  Two
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  Point
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  Perspective.
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  I'm
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  Elizabeth.
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  The
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  kids
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  call
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  me
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  Lizzo.
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  I
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  am
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  an
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  older
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  adult
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  amateur
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  rider
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  and
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  I
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  started
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  riding
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  in
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  the
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  70s
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  when
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  the
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  last
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  thing
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  we
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  thought
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  about
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  was
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  how
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  many
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  strides
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  or
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  a
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  lead
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  change.
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  And
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  I'm
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  Reynolds,
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  a
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  millennial
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  rider
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  navigating
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  the
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  world
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  of
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  social
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  media,
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  expensive
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  gear
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  and
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  constant
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  show
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  coverage.
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  Together,
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  we're
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  here
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  to
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  give
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  you
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  a
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  two
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  point
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  perspective
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  of
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  life
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  in
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  the
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  saddle
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  across
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  two
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  generations.
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  So
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  now
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  for
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  the
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  big
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  question.
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  Why
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  now?
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  Why
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  would
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  we
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  start
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  a
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  podcast
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  about
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  horses
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  and
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  riding?
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  Well,
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  honestly,
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  you
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  know,
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  so
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  much
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  is
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  changing
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  and
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  a
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  lot
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  is
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  staying
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  the
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  same
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  and
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  we
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  want
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  to
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  talk
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  about
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  it
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  all
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  the
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  good,
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  the
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  weird
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  and
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  the
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  ridiculous
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  parts
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  about
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  being
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  a
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  rider.
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  Lizzo,
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  give
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  us
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  a
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  little
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  bit
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  of
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  your
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  backstory
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  about
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  how
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  you
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  got
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  into
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  horses
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  and
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  things
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  that
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  were
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  important
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  to
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  you
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  when
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  you
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  first
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  started
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  and
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  give
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  us
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  a
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  little,
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  let
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  us
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  know
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  a
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  little
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  bit
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  more
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  about
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  you.
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  So
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  I
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  got
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  a
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  horse
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  from
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  probably
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  the
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  horse
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  trader
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  and
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  I
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  wish
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  I
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  could
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  remember
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  his
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  name
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  in
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  Atlanta
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  for
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  my
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  13th
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  birthday.
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  And
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  my
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  mother
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  had
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  gotten
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  remarried
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  and
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  my
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  stepsister
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  was
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  kind
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  of
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  a
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  well
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  known
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  rider
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  in
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  Atlanta
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  and
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  she
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  would
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  come
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  out
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  and
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  give
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  me
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  lessons
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  and
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  I
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  went
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  to
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  a
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  horse
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  show
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  at
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  the
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  Shake
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  Rag
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  Hounds
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  Hunt
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  club
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  and
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  with
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  this
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  $200
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  horse
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  from
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  the
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  dealer
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  in
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  Atlanta
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  and
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  he
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  wouldn't
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  get
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  near
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  the
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  very
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  first
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  jump
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  and
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  I
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  was
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  like,
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  this
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  isn't
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  going
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  to
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  work.
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  So
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  somehow
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  I
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  wound
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  up
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  with
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  a
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  off
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  the
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  track,
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  although
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  he
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  never
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  raced
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  thoroughbred
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  from
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  my
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  stepsister's
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  trainer
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  and
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  he
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  was
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  extremely
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  talented.
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  In
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  fact,
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  there
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  were
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  really
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  talented
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  top
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  riders
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  at
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  the
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  time
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  that
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  were
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  interested
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  in
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  him,
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  but
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  they
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  would,
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  he
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  would
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  buck
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  everybody
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  off
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  when
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  they
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  came
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  to
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  try
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  him.
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  And
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  I
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  didn't
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  have
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  any
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  choice
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  because
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  I
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  was
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  keeping
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  him
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  in
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  somebody's
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  backyard
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  anyway.
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  And
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  so
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  I
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  bought
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  him
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  and
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  my
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  stepsister
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  would
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  come
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  and
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  give
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  me
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  lessons.
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  And
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  one
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  day
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  it
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  became
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  apparent
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  that
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  I
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  couldn't
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  keep
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  him
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  in
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  the
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  backyard
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  anymore
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  as
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  he
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  got
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  fitter
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  and
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  fatter.
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  And
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  I
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  will
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  say
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  that
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  my
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  mother
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  did
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  the
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  most
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  amazing
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  thing.
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  This
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  was
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  her
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  magic
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  mother
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  moment
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  that
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  I'll
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  never
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  forget.
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  We
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  were
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  going
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  to
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  go
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  look
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  at
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  a
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  barn
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  in
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  north
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  outside
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  of
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  Atlanta
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  that
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  was
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  just
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  a
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  field
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  board
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  situation.
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  And
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  my
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  mother
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  picked
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  me
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  up
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  after
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  school
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  and
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  we
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  passed
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  the
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  stables
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  where
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  my
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  best
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  friends
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  kept
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  their
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  horses.
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  And
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  I
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  pointed
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  out
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  it
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  was
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  in
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  a
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  subdivision.
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  And
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  I
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  said,
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  that's
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  where
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  Diane
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  keeps
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  her
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  horse.
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  And
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  my
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  mother
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  was
• 2:49
  like,
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  I'm
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  a
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  real
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  estate
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  agent.
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  There's
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  no
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  way
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  that's
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  not.
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  There's
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  no
• 2:54
  horses
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  there.
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  I'm
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  like,
• 2:55
  mother,
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  there
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  is.
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  And
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  we
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  argued
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  and
• 2:57
  argued.
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  And
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  finally
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  she
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  turned
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  around,
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  the
• 3:00
  car
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  pulled
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  into
• 3:01
  the
• 3:01
  subdivision.
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  You
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  can
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  just
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  see
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  all
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  these
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  houses.
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  And
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  she
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  goes,
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  see,
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  I
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  told
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  you
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  it's
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  just
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  houses.
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  No,
• 3:08
  you
• 3:08
  got
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  to
• 3:08
  go
• 3:09
  that
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  way.
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  That
• 3:09
  way.
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  Okay.
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  So
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  Herky
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  Jerky,
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  we
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  finally
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  go
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  down
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  the
• 3:13
  hill.
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  You
• 3:14
  can
• 3:14
  see
• 3:14
  the
• 3:14
  barn
• 3:14
  is
• 3:15
  over
• 3:15
  there.
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  Okay,
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  fine.
• 3:16
  There's
• 3:17
  a
• 3:17
  roundabout.
• 3:18
  And
• 3:18
  she's
• 3:19
  like,
• 3:19
  well,
• 3:19
  let's
• 3:20
  keep
• 3:20
  going.
• 3:20
  I'm
• 3:21
  like,
• 3:21
  well,
• 3:21
  now
• 3:21
  that
• 3:21
  we're
• 3:21
  here,
• 3:22
  can't
• 3:23
  we
• 3:23
  just
• 3:23
  go
• 3:23
  see
• 3:24
  Diane?
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  So
• 3:25
  we
• 3:25
  drive
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  down
• 3:26
  to
• 3:26
  the
• 3:26
  barn,
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  and
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  we
• 3:27
  get
• 3:27
  out,
• 3:27
  and
• 3:27
  my
• 3:28
  friend
• 3:28
  and
• 3:28
  her
• 3:28
  mother
• 3:29
  are
• 3:29
  standing
• 3:29
  there,
• 3:29
  and
• 3:30
  they're
• 3:30
  like,
• 3:30
  what
• 3:30
  are
• 3:30
  you
• 3:30
  doing?
• 3:31
  And
• 3:31
  my
• 3:32
  mother
• 3:32
  and
• 3:32
  I
• 3:32
  said,
• 3:33
  we're
• 3:33
  going
• 3:33
  up
• 3:33
  to
• 3:34
  look
• 3:34
  at
• 3:34
  Burton's
• 3:35
  to
• 3:35
  see
• 3:35
  if
• 3:35
  it
• 3:35
  would
• 3:35
  be
• 3:35
  a
• 3:35
  good
• 3:36
  fit
• 3:36
  for
• 3:36
  Khobar
• 3:38
  to
• 3:38
  be
• 3:38
  on
• 3:38
  full,
• 3:39
  you
• 3:39
  know,
• 3:39
  outside
• 3:40
  board.
• 3:40
  And
• 3:41
  my
• 3:41
  friend's
• 3:42
  mother
• 3:42
  said,
• 3:44
  why
• 3:44
  don't
• 3:44
  you
• 3:45
  think
• 3:45
  about
• 3:45
  coming
• 3:46
  here?
• 3:46
  Look.
• 3:46
  Look
• 3:47
  how
• 3:47
  nice
• 3:47
  the
• 3:47
  stalls
• 3:48
  are.
• 3:48
  And
• 3:49
  there's
• 3:49
  my
• 3:49
  horse.
• 3:51
  Oh,
• 3:52
  I
• 3:52
  don't
• 3:52
  even
• 3:52
  know
• 3:53
  if
• 3:53
  I
• 3:53
  knew
• 3:53
  that.
• 3:54
  Yeah,
• 3:54
  in
• 3:55
  the
• 3:55
  stall.
• 3:55
  Oh,
• 3:56
  my
• 3:56
  gosh.
• 3:57
  My
• 3:57
  mother
• 3:58
  and
• 3:58
  her
• 3:59
  mother,
• 3:59
  they
• 3:59
  had
• 4:00
  a
• 4:00
  trailer,
• 4:00
  and
• 4:01
  during
• 4:01
  the
• 4:01
  day,
• 4:02
  they
• 4:02
  had
• 4:02
  gone
• 4:02
  to
• 4:03
  get
• 4:03
  the
• 4:03
  horse.
• 4:03
  So
• 4:03
  the
• 4:04
  whole
• 4:04
  thing
• 4:04
  was
• 4:05
  a
• 4:05
  total
• 4:06
  setup.
• 4:06
  That
• 4:06
  is
• 4:07
  incredible.
• 4:07
  I.
• 4:08
  I
• 4:08
  knew
• 4:09
  that
• 4:09
  that's
• 4:09
  where
• 4:09
  you
• 4:09
  ended
• 4:09
  up.
• 4:10
  I
• 4:10
  don't
• 4:10
  know.
• 4:10
  I
• 4:10
  knew
• 4:11
  about
• 4:11
  your
• 4:11
  mom's
• 4:11
  surprise.
• 4:11
  Oh,
• 4:12
  yeah.
• 4:12
  That
• 4:12
  was
• 4:12
  incredible.
• 4:13
  That
• 4:13
  is
• 4:13
  amazing.
• 4:14
  So
• 4:15
  then
• 4:15
  I
• 4:15
  rode
• 4:16
  with
• 4:16
  Sunny
• 4:17
  Stevens,
• 4:17
  who
• 4:18
  was.
• 4:19
  In
• 4:19
  the
• 4:19
  end,
• 4:20
  she
• 4:20
  passed
• 4:20
  away
• 4:21
  about
• 4:21
  three
• 4:21
  years
• 4:21
  ago,
• 4:22
  but
• 4:22
  in
• 4:23
  the
• 4:23
  end,
• 4:23
  won
• 4:24
  all
• 4:24
  kinds
• 4:25
  of
• 4:25
  teaching
• 4:25
  awards.
• 4:26
  Just
• 4:27
  wanted
• 4:27
  to
• 4:27
  be
• 4:27
  a
• 4:27
  teacher,
• 4:28
  which
• 4:28
  is
• 4:30
  something
• 4:30
  I
• 4:31
  think
• 4:31
  we
• 4:31
  will
• 4:31
  touch
• 4:32
  on
• 4:32
  as
• 4:32
  we
• 4:33
  go.
• 4:33
  But
• 4:33
  anyway,
• 4:34
  how
• 4:34
  did
• 4:34
  you
• 4:34
  start?
• 4:36
  So
• 4:37
  it
• 4:37
  was
• 4:37
  in
• 4:37
  my
• 4:37
  family
• 4:38
  in
• 4:38
  a
• 4:38
  lot
• 4:39
  of
• 4:39
  ways.
• 4:39
  My
• 4:40
  mom
• 4:40
  and
• 4:40
  her
• 4:41
  brother
• 4:42
  grew
• 4:42
  up
• 4:43
  riding,
• 4:44
  and
• 4:45
  my
• 4:45
  grandmother,
• 4:46
  I
• 4:46
  was
• 4:47
  one
• 4:47
  of
• 4:47
  the
• 4:47
  younger
• 4:47
  grandchildren,
• 4:48
  and
• 4:48
  she's
• 4:48
  like,
• 4:49
  well,
• 4:49
  all
• 4:49
  grandchildren
• 4:50
  need
• 4:50
  a
• 4:50
  pony.
• 4:50
  So
• 4:52
  she
• 4:52
  got
• 4:52
  us
• 4:52
  a
• 4:52
  little
• 4:53
  pony
• 4:53
  named
• 4:54
  Cotton.
• 4:55
  And
• 4:55
  so
• 4:56
  we
• 4:56
  kept
• 4:56
  her
• 4:56
  at
• 4:56
  my
• 4:56
  aunt's,
• 4:57
  who
• 4:57
  was
• 4:57
  not
• 4:57
  far
• 4:58
  from
• 4:59
  where
• 4:59
  we
• 4:59
  lived,
• 5:00
  and
• 5:00
  had
• 5:01
  little
• 5:01
  lessons
• 5:01
  with
• 5:01
  her.
• 5:02
  And
• 5:02
  that's
• 5:02
  how
• 5:02
  I
• 5:03
  got
• 5:03
  into
• 5:03
  it.
• 5:03
  I
• 5:03
  mean,
• 5:04
  there's
• 5:04
  a
• 5:04
  picture
• 5:05
  of
• 5:05
  me
• 5:06
  somewhere
• 5:06
  on
• 5:07
  the
• 5:07
  back
• 5:07
  of
• 5:07
  Cotton
• 5:08
  with
• 5:08
  a
• 5:08
  passy,
• 5:09
  you
• 5:09
  know,
• 5:09
  So
• 5:09
  I
• 5:10
  was
• 5:10
  just
• 5:10
  all
• 5:10
  about
• 5:10
  it.
• 5:11
  All
• 5:11
  business
• 5:11
  according
• 5:12
  to
• 5:12
  my
• 5:12
  mom.
• 5:12
  Like,
• 5:13
  I
• 5:13
  can
• 5:13
  do
• 5:13
  it
• 5:13
  myself.
• 5:14
  And
• 5:14
  my
• 5:15
  aunt
• 5:15
  also
• 5:15
  bred
• 5:16
  horses.
• 5:16
  So
• 5:17
  when
• 5:18
  I
• 5:18
  had
• 5:18
  gotten
• 5:18
  really
• 5:19
  into
• 5:19
  it
• 5:19
  and
• 5:19
  I
• 5:19
  was
• 5:20
  getting
• 5:20
  closer
• 5:21
  to
• 5:21
  7,
• 5:22
  8,
• 5:23
  my
• 5:23
  mom
• 5:24
  decided
• 5:24
  that
• 5:24
  we
• 5:24
  would
• 5:25
  move
• 5:25
  barns
• 5:26
  to
• 5:26
  where
• 5:27
  I
• 5:27
  could
• 5:27
  get
• 5:28
  more
• 5:28
  regular
• 5:28
  lessons
• 5:29
  and
• 5:29
  kind
• 5:29
  of
• 5:29
  see
• 5:30
  about
• 5:30
  doing
• 5:31
  some
• 5:31
  showing
• 5:31
  and
• 5:31
  stuff
• 5:32
  like
• 5:32
  that.
• 5:32
  And
• 5:33
  my
• 5:33
  aunt
• 5:34
  actually
• 5:34
  had
• 5:35
  me
• 5:35
  come
• 5:35
  over
• 5:35
  to
• 5:35
  her
• 5:36
  farm
• 5:36
  and
• 5:37
  she
• 5:37
  said,
• 5:37
  hey,
• 5:37
  I
• 5:37
  need
• 5:38
  you
• 5:38
  to
• 5:38
  sign
• 5:38
  this,
• 5:38
  this
• 5:38
  paper.
• 5:39
  I
• 5:40
  said,
• 5:40
  me.
• 5:41
  So
• 5:42
  I
• 5:42
  signed
• 5:42
  it.
• 5:43
  And
• 5:44
  she
• 5:44
  had
• 5:44
  transferred
• 5:45
  ownership
• 5:46
  of
• 5:46
  one
• 5:46
  of
• 5:46
  the
• 5:47
  mares
• 5:47
  that
• 5:47
  she
• 5:47
  bred.
• 5:49
  Her
• 5:49
  name
• 5:49
  was
• 5:49
  Forte.
• 5:50
  And
• 5:51
  Forte
• 5:52
  made
• 5:52
  her
• 5:52
  way
• 5:52
  over
• 5:53
  to
• 5:53
  the
• 5:53
  farm
• 5:53
  where
• 5:54
  I
• 5:54
  was
• 5:54
  riding
• 5:54
  at
• 5:55
  the
• 5:55
  time.
• 5:55
  And
• 5:56
  so
• 5:56
  she
• 5:56
  actually
• 5:57
  bred
• 5:57
  and
• 5:57
  gave
• 5:58
  me
• 5:58
  my
• 5:58
  very
• 5:58
  first
• 5:59
  horse.
• 5:59
  Oh,
• 6:00
  that's
• 6:00
  so
• 6:00
  cool.
• 6:01
  That
• 6:01
  I
• 6:01
  rode
• 6:01
  from
• 6:02
  when
• 6:02
  I
• 6:02
  was
• 6:02
  8
• 6:03
  and
• 6:03
  we
• 6:03
  had
• 6:04
  her
• 6:04
  up
• 6:05
  until
• 6:05
  I
• 6:05
  was
• 6:05
  in
• 6:05
  my
• 6:07
  young
• 6:07
  20s.
• 6:08
  So
• 6:09
  we
• 6:09
  had
• 6:09
  her
• 6:09
  all
• 6:09
  that
• 6:09
  time.
• 6:10
  And
• 6:11
  she
• 6:12
  was
• 6:12
  green.
• 6:13
  She
• 6:14
  was
• 6:14
  a
• 6:14
  small
• 6:14
  horse,
• 6:15
  but
• 6:15
  she
• 6:15
  was
• 6:15
  big
• 6:15
  to
• 6:15
  me
• 6:16
  at
• 6:16
  the
• 6:16
  time.
• 6:17
  She
• 6:17
  was
• 6:18
  like
• 6:18
  15:1,
• 6:19
  but
• 6:19
  I
• 6:19
  was
• 6:19
  8.
• 6:20
  My
• 6:20
  feet
• 6:20
  barely,
• 6:21
  barely
• 6:21
  went
• 6:21
  past
• 6:21
  the
• 6:22
  saddle.
• 6:24
  And
• 6:24
  while
• 6:25
  she
• 6:25
  was
• 6:25
  an
• 6:26
  amazing
• 6:26
  horse,
• 6:27
  she
• 6:28
  was
• 6:28
  very
• 6:28
  green
• 6:29
  and
• 6:29
  she
• 6:29
  had
• 6:29
  a
• 6:30
  rip
• 6:30
  roaring
• 6:30
  buck
• 6:31
  in
• 6:31
  her.
• 6:32
  So
• 6:33
  we
• 6:33
  both
• 6:33
  grew.
• 6:35
  She
• 6:35
  didn't
• 6:36
  have
• 6:36
  the
• 6:36
  cut
• 6:36
  for
• 6:36
  dressage
• 6:37
  and
• 6:38
  had
• 6:38
  some
• 6:39
  moments
• 6:39
  in
• 6:39
  the
• 6:39
  dressage
• 6:40
  ring.
• 6:40
  It
• 6:40
  wasn't
• 6:40
  for
• 6:40
  her,
• 6:41
  but
• 6:41
  excelled
• 6:42
  in
• 6:42
  the
• 6:42
  hunter
• 6:42
  world.
• 6:45
  But
• 6:45
  she
• 6:46
  taught
• 6:46
  me
• 6:46
  grit.
• 6:46
  She
• 6:47
  taught
• 6:47
  me
• 6:47
  grit
• 6:47
  and
• 6:47
  determination.
• 6:48
  And
• 6:48
  you
• 6:48
  know,
• 6:48
  I
• 6:49
  know
• 6:49
  there's
• 6:49
  the.
• 6:50
  Don't
• 6:50
  put
• 6:50
  a
• 6:50
  green
• 6:51
  rider
• 6:51
  on
• 6:51
  a
• 6:51
  green
• 6:51
  horse.
• 6:52
  But
• 6:52
  I,
• 6:52
  you
• 6:52
  know,
• 6:53
  I
• 6:54
  wouldn't
• 6:54
  change
• 6:55
  my
• 6:56
  story.
• 6:56
  And
• 6:57
  learning
• 6:57
  how
• 6:57
  to
• 6:57
  ride
• 6:57
  her
• 6:58
  and
• 6:59
  being
• 6:59
  really
• 6:59
  brave
• 7:00
  to
• 7:00
  do
• 7:00
  the
• 7:00
  things
• 7:01
  that
• 7:01
  I
• 7:01
  did.
• 7:01
  Looking
• 7:01
  back
• 7:02
  on
• 7:02
  it,
• 7:02
  on
• 7:02
  a
• 7:02
  horse
• 7:03
  that
• 7:03
  I
• 7:03
  grew
• 7:04
  so
• 7:04
  much
• 7:04
  with
• 7:05
  over
• 7:05
  such
• 7:06
  a
• 7:06
  long
• 7:06
  period
• 7:06
  of
• 7:06
  time,
• 7:07
  that's.
• 7:08
  Kind
• 7:08
  of
• 7:08
  the
• 7:08
  way
• 7:09
  it
• 7:09
  happened
• 7:09
  with
• 7:10
  me
• 7:10
  too.
• 7:10
  Because
• 7:11
  I
• 7:11
  kept
• 7:12
  this
• 7:12
  horse
• 7:12
  in
• 7:12
  somebody's
• 7:13
  backyard.
• 7:14
  Right.
• 7:14
  And
• 7:15
  we
• 7:15
  had
• 7:16
  to
• 7:16
  clean
• 7:16
  the
• 7:16
  stalls
• 7:17
  ourselves,
• 7:17
  feed
• 7:18
  the
• 7:18
  feed
• 7:18
  and
• 7:18
  water,
• 7:19
  order
• 7:19
  the
• 7:19
  shavings,
• 7:20
  get
• 7:20
  rid
• 7:20
  of
• 7:20
  the
• 7:20
  manure.
• 7:21
  I
• 7:21
  mean
• 7:21
  it
• 7:21
  was
• 7:22
  in
• 7:22
  the,
• 7:22
  in
• 7:22
  the
• 7:22
  middle
• 7:23
  of
• 7:23
  Atlanta,
• 7:24
  believe
• 7:24
  it
• 7:24
  or
• 7:24
  not.
• 7:25
  Yeah,
• 7:25
  that's
• 7:25
  wild.
• 7:26
  Down
• 7:26
  the
• 7:26
  street
• 7:26
  from
• 7:26
  the
• 7:27
  Governor's
• 7:27
  mansion.
• 7:28
  In
• 7:28
  fact,
• 7:28
  when
• 7:29
  the
• 7:29
  governor's
• 7:29
  mansion
• 7:30
  opened,
• 7:31
  I
• 7:31
  rode
• 7:32
  my
• 7:32
  horse
• 7:33
  up
• 7:33
  to
• 7:33
  the
• 7:33
  governor's
• 7:34
  mansion
• 7:34
  and
• 7:35
  I
• 7:35
  remember
• 7:36
  he
• 7:36
  pooped.
• 7:37
  And
• 7:37
  this
• 7:38
  gardener
• 7:38
  came
• 7:39
  running
• 7:39
  out
• 7:39
  after
• 7:40
  me
• 7:40
  with
• 7:40
  a
• 7:40
  shovel
• 7:41
  telling
• 7:41
  me
• 7:42
  that
• 7:42
  I
• 7:42
  had
• 7:42
  to
• 7:42
  clean
• 7:43
  it
• 7:43
  up.
• 7:43
  And
• 7:43
  I
• 7:43
  was
• 7:43
  like,
• 7:44
  I'm
• 7:44
  sorry,
• 7:44
  I'm
• 7:44
  not
• 7:44
  getting
• 7:45
  off
• 7:45
  this
• 7:45
  horse.
• 7:45
  No,
• 7:46
  you
• 7:46
  ran
• 7:46
  away.
• 7:47
  We
• 7:47
  did
• 7:48
  and
• 7:48
  went
• 7:48
  back
• 7:49
  home.
• 7:50
  But
• 7:51
  anyway,
• 7:52
  yes,
• 7:52
  he
• 7:52
  was
• 7:53
  extremely
• 7:53
  green.
• 7:53
  He
• 7:54
  was
• 7:54
  only
• 7:54
  like
• 7:54
  5
• 7:55
  and
• 7:55
  had.
• 7:56
  Was
• 7:56
  barely
• 7:56
  even
• 7:56
  broken
• 7:57
  when
• 7:57
  I
• 7:57
  got
• 7:57
  him.
• 7:58
  And
• 7:58
  if
• 7:59
  I
• 7:59
  remember,
• 8:00
  when
• 8:00
  I
• 8:00
  went
• 8:01
  to
• 8:01
  Sunny's,
• 8:02
  she
• 8:03
  rode
• 8:04
  a
• 8:04
  little
• 8:04
  bit
• 8:04
  still,
• 8:05
  but
• 8:05
  not
• 8:05
  as
• 8:06
  much.
• 8:06
  And
• 8:06
  that
• 8:06
  was
• 8:07
  before
• 8:07
  the
• 8:07
  days
• 8:08
  of
• 8:08
  even
• 8:08
  having
• 8:09
  professional
• 8:09
  riders.
• 8:10
  Oh,
• 8:10
  yeah.
• 8:10
  I
• 8:10
  mean,
• 8:11
  yeah,
• 8:11
  if
• 8:12
  you
• 8:12
  had
• 8:12
  a.
• 8:12
  Green
• 8:12
  horse,
• 8:13
  it
• 8:13
  was
• 8:13
  a
• 8:13
  lot
• 8:13
  of
• 8:14
  where
• 8:14
  I
• 8:15
  rode
• 8:16
  our
• 8:17
  Trainer
• 8:18
  was
• 8:19
  one
• 8:19
  of
• 8:19
  her
• 8:19
  gifts,
• 8:20
  I
• 8:20
  think,
• 8:21
  was
• 8:21
  her
• 8:21
  ability
• 8:22
  to,
• 8:24
  if
• 8:24
  you
• 8:24
  were
• 8:24
  scared
• 8:25
  or
• 8:25
  worried,
• 8:26
  she
• 8:26
  had
• 8:26
  this
• 8:26
  ability
• 8:27
  to
• 8:28
  instill
• 8:29
  this
• 8:29
  confidence
• 8:29
  in
• 8:29
  you.
• 8:30
  I
• 8:30
  mean,
• 8:30
  you
• 8:30
  know,
• 8:30
  if
• 8:30
  you
• 8:31
  were
• 8:31
  scared
• 8:31
  to
• 8:31
  jump
• 8:32
  a
• 8:32
  little
• 8:32
  X,
• 8:32
  I
• 8:32
  mean,
• 8:33
  I
• 8:33
  think
• 8:33
  she
• 8:33
  still
• 8:33
  does
• 8:33
  it,
• 8:34
  but
• 8:34
  she
• 8:34
  would
• 8:34
  be
• 8:34
  on
• 8:34
  the
• 8:34
  ground
• 8:35
  and
• 8:35
  she'd
• 8:35
  run
• 8:36
  beside
• 8:36
  you
• 8:36
  and
• 8:36
  jump
• 8:37
  the
• 8:37
  jump
• 8:37
  with
• 8:37
  you.
• 8:37
  And
• 8:38
  for
• 8:38
  some
• 8:38
  reason,
• 8:39
  I
• 8:39
  mean,
• 8:39
  you
• 8:39
  know,
• 8:40
  you're
• 8:40
  like,
• 8:40
  oh
• 8:40
  my
• 8:40
  God,
• 8:40
  think
• 8:40
  about
• 8:41
  that
• 8:41
  now.
• 8:41
  What
• 8:41
  if
• 8:41
  your
• 8:41
  leg
• 8:42
  gets
• 8:42
  tangled
• 8:42
  up?
• 8:42
  But
• 8:42
  we
• 8:43
  were
• 8:43
  like,
• 8:43
  oh,
• 8:43
  she's
• 8:43
  with
• 8:44
  us,
• 8:44
  we've
• 8:44
  got
• 8:44
  it,
• 8:45
  we're
• 8:45
  gonna
• 8:45
  be
• 8:45
  able
• 8:45
  to
• 8:45
  do
• 8:45
  it.
• 8:46
  And
• 8:46
  sometimes
• 8:47
  it
• 8:47
  could
• 8:47
  be
• 8:48
  a
• 8:48
  two
• 8:48
  foot
• 8:48
  jump
• 8:48
  and
• 8:48
  she'd
• 8:49
  be
• 8:49
  like,
• 8:49
  okay,
• 8:49
  I'll
• 8:49
  come
• 8:49
  do
• 8:49
  it
• 8:49
  with
• 8:50
  you.
• 8:50
  But
• 8:50
  she
• 8:50
  just
• 8:51
  always
• 8:52
  made
• 8:53
  sure
• 8:53
  that
• 8:53
  you
• 8:53
  were
• 8:53
  good
• 8:54
  and
• 8:54
  she
• 8:54
  wanted
• 8:54
  you
• 8:55
  to
• 8:55
  believe
• 8:55
  in
• 8:55
  yourself.
• 8:56
  And
• 8:56
  even
• 8:56
  if
• 8:56
  you
• 8:56
  weren't
• 8:57
  the
• 8:57
  most
• 8:57
  talented
• 8:58
  or,
• 8:59
  you
• 9:00
  know,
• 9:00
  you
• 9:00
  were
• 9:01
  sort
• 9:01
  of
• 9:01
  wishy
• 9:02
  washy
• 9:02
  on
• 9:02
  how
• 9:02
  much
• 9:02
  you
• 9:03
  really
• 9:03
  loved
• 9:03
  it,
• 9:03
  she
• 9:03
  wanted
• 9:04
  you
• 9:04
  to,
• 9:05
  if
• 9:05
  nothing
• 9:05
  else,
• 9:06
  believe
• 9:06
  in
• 9:06
  your
• 9:06
  ability
• 9:07
  to
• 9:08
  do
• 9:08
  something.
• 9:09
  And
• 9:10
  I,
• 9:10
  I
• 9:11
  will
• 9:11
  always
• 9:11
  be
• 9:11
  grateful
• 9:12
  for
• 9:12
  her
• 9:12
  for
• 9:12
  that.
• 9:13
  And
• 9:13
  the
• 9:13
  thing
• 9:13
  is
• 9:14
  the
• 9:14
  same
• 9:14
  way,
• 9:14
  I
• 9:14
  mean,
• 9:15
  she,
• 9:15
  she
• 9:15
  would
• 9:15
  get
• 9:15
  on
• 9:15
  the
• 9:16
  horses
• 9:16
  and
• 9:16
  ride
• 9:16
  them
• 9:16
  sometimes.
• 9:18
  But
• 9:18
  a
• 9:18
  lot
• 9:19
  of
• 9:19
  the
• 9:19
  time
• 9:19
  it
• 9:19
  was
• 9:20
  the
• 9:20
  older
• 9:20
  group
• 9:21
  of
• 9:21
  girls
• 9:21
  that
• 9:21
  maybe
• 9:21
  had
• 9:21
  more
• 9:22
  experience
• 9:22
  that
• 9:23
  would
• 9:23
  get
• 9:23
  on
• 9:23
  our
• 9:23
  horses
• 9:24
  if
• 9:24
  they
• 9:24
  were
• 9:24
  being
• 9:25
  a
• 9:25
  little
• 9:25
  naughty
• 9:25
  that
• 9:26
  day
• 9:26
  or
• 9:26
  needed
• 9:27
  somebody
• 9:27
  a
• 9:27
  little
• 9:27
  stronger
• 9:28
  than
• 9:28
  the
• 9:28
  smaller
• 9:29
  kids.
• 9:29
  But
• 9:29
  we
• 9:29
  did
• 9:30
  the
• 9:30
  same
• 9:30
  thing,
• 9:30
  I
• 9:30
  mean,
• 9:30
  all
• 9:31
  summer.
• 9:32
  And
• 9:32
  see,
• 9:32
  that's
• 9:32
  what's
• 9:33
  been
• 9:33
  the
• 9:33
  toughest
• 9:34
  part
• 9:34
  for
• 9:34
  me,
• 9:35
  kind
• 9:35
  of
• 9:35
  coming
• 9:36
  back
• 9:36
  to
• 9:36
  the
• 9:36
  sport.
• 9:37
  Because
• 9:38
  in
• 9:38
  my
• 9:38
  mind
• 9:39
  I
• 9:39
  remember
• 9:40
  being
• 9:41
  taught
• 9:41
  by
• 9:41
  a
• 9:42
  teacher
• 9:42
  how
• 9:43
  to
• 9:43
  teach
• 9:44
  my
• 9:44
  horse
• 9:45
  right?
• 9:45
  And
• 9:46
  today
• 9:48
  I
• 9:48
  don't
• 9:48
  really
• 9:49
  think
• 9:49
  that
• 9:50
  can
• 9:50
  happen.
• 9:51
  I'm
• 9:51
  not
• 9:52
  sure
• 9:53
  that
• 9:53
  it's.
• 9:54
  I
• 9:54
  mean,
• 9:55
  this
• 9:55
  is
• 9:56
  so
• 9:56
  much
• 9:57
  of
• 9:57
  the
• 9:57
  change,
• 9:58
  right?
• 10:00
  In
• 10:00
  today's
• 10:01
  world,
• 10:02
  you
• 10:02
  know,
• 10:02
  people
• 10:02
  are
• 10:03
  worried
• 10:03
  about
• 10:03
  getting
• 10:03
  hurt.
• 10:04
  And
• 10:04
  also
• 10:05
  professionals
• 10:06
  make
• 10:06
  their
• 10:07
  money
• 10:07
  by
• 10:08
  training
• 10:08
  your
• 10:09
  horse.
• 10:09
  So
• 10:10
  your
• 10:10
  horse
• 10:10
  might
• 10:10
  be
• 10:11
  in
• 10:13
  training
• 10:13
  board
• 10:14
  training
• 10:14
  rides.
• 10:15
  Whereas
• 10:16
  when
• 10:16
  I
• 10:16
  grew
• 10:17
  up,
• 10:18
  that
• 10:18
  wasn't
• 10:18
  even
• 10:19
  really
• 10:19
  an
• 10:19
  option.
• 10:20
  I
• 10:20
  mean,
• 10:21
  yes,
• 10:22
  there
• 10:22
  were
• 10:22
  trainers
• 10:23
  who
• 10:24
  obviously
• 10:25
  were
• 10:26
  riding
• 10:27
  someone's
• 10:27
  investment
• 10:28
  horse
• 10:29
  and
• 10:29
  were
• 10:29
  showing
• 10:30
  that
• 10:30
  horse
• 10:30
  in
• 10:30
  the
• 10:31
  green.
• 10:31
  But
• 10:32
  I
• 10:32
  showed
• 10:33
  my
• 10:33
  horse
• 10:34
  in
• 10:34
  the
• 10:34
  green
• 10:35
  Hunters.
• 10:36
  In
• 10:36
  fact,
• 10:37
  I'll
• 10:37
  never
• 10:37
  forget
• 10:38
  my
• 10:38
  mother
• 10:39
  was
• 10:40
  so
• 10:40
  upset,
• 10:41
  there
• 10:41
  was
• 10:41
  a
• 10:42
  guy
• 10:43
  who
• 10:44
  had
• 10:44
  a
• 10:44
  horse
• 10:45
  and
• 10:46
  he
• 10:46
  showed
• 10:46
  a
• 10:46
  lot
• 10:47
  in
• 10:47
  Aiken
• 10:47
  and
• 10:48
  around
• 10:48
  Atlanta
• 10:49
  and
• 10:50
  his
• 10:50
  name
• 10:51
  was
• 10:51
  Pete
• 10:51
  Bostwick.
• 10:53
  And
• 10:53
  we
• 10:54
  sat
• 10:55
  in
• 10:55
  Wellington
• 10:56
  at
• 10:56
  the
• 10:56
  luncheon,
• 10:57
  remember
• 10:57
  with.
• 10:58
  Oh,
• 10:58
  yeah.
• 10:59
  And
• 10:59
  I
• 10:59
  said,
• 10:59
  I
• 11:00
  know
• 11:00
  your
• 11:00
  grandfather.
• 11:01
  That's
• 11:01
  right.
• 11:02
  I
• 11:02
  remember
• 11:02
  that
• 11:02
  now
• 11:03
  because.
• 11:03
  But
• 11:04
  my
• 11:04
  mother
• 11:04
  used
• 11:04
  to
• 11:05
  get
• 11:05
  sick
• 11:06
  Upset
• 11:06
  because
• 11:06
  she
• 11:06
  was
• 11:07
  like,
• 11:07
  how
• 11:07
  can
• 11:07
  this
• 11:08
  man,
• 11:09
  you
• 11:09
  know,
• 11:09
  be
• 11:09
  showing
• 11:10
  against
• 11:10
  you
• 11:11
  junior
• 11:11
  girls?
• 11:12
  But
• 11:12
  it's.
• 11:13
  That's
• 11:13
  what
• 11:13
  you
• 11:13
  did.
• 11:14
  Everybody
• 11:14
  was
• 11:14
  like,
• 11:14
  intermingled.
• 11:15
  Yeah.
• 11:16
  And
• 11:16
  then
• 11:16
  we
• 11:16
  had
• 11:16
  our
• 11:17
  own
• 11:17
  division
• 11:17
  in
• 11:18
  the
• 11:18
  juniors.
• 11:19
  You
• 11:19
  rode,
• 11:19
  you
• 11:20
  showed
• 11:20
  your
• 11:20
  own
• 11:20
  horse.
• 11:21
  Sure.
• 11:21
  But
• 11:22
  there
• 11:22
  was
• 11:22
  not
• 11:23
  professional
• 11:24
  riders
• 11:25
  or
• 11:25
  your
• 11:25
  trainer.
• 11:26
  It
• 11:26
  was
• 11:27
  more
• 11:27
  unusual
• 11:29
  to
• 11:29
  have
• 11:29
  that.
• 11:29
  It
• 11:29
  existed,
• 11:30
  but
• 11:30
  was
• 11:30
  very
• 11:31
  small.
• 11:31
  Right.
• 11:32
  Well,
• 11:32
  I
• 11:32
  think,
• 11:32
  too,
• 11:34
  going
• 11:34
  off
• 11:34
  of,
• 11:35
  you
• 11:35
  know,
• 11:35
  training
• 11:36
  rides
• 11:36
  and
• 11:36
  stuff
• 11:37
  like
• 11:37
  that
• 11:37
  and
• 11:38
  you
• 11:38
  riding
• 11:38
  your
• 11:38
  horse
• 11:39
  and
• 11:39
  it
• 11:39
  not
• 11:39
  just
• 11:39
  being
• 11:39
  an
• 11:40
  investment.
• 11:40
  I
• 11:40
  think
• 11:41
  what
• 11:41
  I
• 11:42
  have
• 11:42
  found,
• 11:43
  bringing
• 11:43
  my
• 11:44
  current
• 11:44
  horse
• 11:44
  along,
• 11:44
  that's
• 11:45
  the
• 11:45
  most
• 11:45
  helpful
• 11:45
  is
• 11:46
  the.
• 11:46
  Okay,
• 11:47
  sure,
• 11:47
  he
• 11:47
  needs
• 11:48
  a
• 11:48
  little,
• 11:48
  you
• 11:49
  know,
• 11:49
  more
• 11:50
  assistance
• 11:51
  than
• 11:51
  I
• 11:51
  am
• 11:52
  knowledgeable
• 11:52
  to
• 11:53
  give
• 11:53
  him.
• 11:53
  And
• 11:53
  I'm
• 11:54
  learning
• 11:54
  how
• 11:54
  to
• 11:54
  ride
• 11:54
  him
• 11:55
  and
• 11:55
  all
• 11:55
  of
• 11:55
  this
• 11:55
  other
• 11:55
  stuff.
• 11:56
  So
• 11:57
  when
• 11:58
  one
• 11:58
  of
• 11:58
  his
• 11:59
  trainers
• 11:59
  would
• 11:59
  get
• 11:59
  on
• 11:59
  him
• 12:00
  and
• 12:00
  she'd
• 12:00
  ride
• 12:00
  him
• 12:00
  and
• 12:00
  she'd
• 12:01
  let
• 12:01
  me
• 12:01
  know,
• 12:01
  like,
• 12:01
  okay,
• 12:02
  this
• 12:02
  is
• 12:02
  what
• 12:02
  I've
• 12:02
  been
• 12:03
  doing
• 12:03
  with
• 12:03
  him.
• 12:04
  Right.
• 12:05
  Um,
• 12:05
  and
• 12:06
  so
• 12:06
  instead
• 12:06
  of
• 12:06
  the,
• 12:07
  like,
• 12:07
  instead
• 12:07
  of
• 12:07
  it
• 12:07
  going,
• 12:08
  training,
• 12:08
  ride,
• 12:08
  lesson,
• 12:09
  jump
• 12:09
  around
• 12:09
  your
• 12:09
  course
• 12:09
  and
• 12:10
  leave,
• 12:11
  it's
• 12:12
  training,
• 12:13
  ride.
• 12:13
  I
• 12:14
  come
• 12:14
  for
• 12:14
  a
• 12:14
  lesson.
• 12:14
  And
• 12:15
  we're
• 12:15
  not
• 12:15
  just
• 12:15
  working
• 12:16
  on,
• 12:16
  can
• 12:16
  you
• 12:16
  count
• 12:17
  five
• 12:17
  strides?
• 12:18
  Which
• 12:18
  I
• 12:18
  struggle
• 12:18
  with.
• 12:19
  And
• 12:19
  then.
• 12:20
  Or
• 12:21
  counting
• 12:21
  in
• 12:21
  general.
• 12:22
  But
• 12:23
  okay,
• 12:23
  you.
• 12:24
  You
• 12:24
  do
• 12:24
  have
• 12:24
  a
• 12:24
  green
• 12:24
  horse,
• 12:25
  and
• 12:25
  you
• 12:25
  do
• 12:25
  have
• 12:25
  the
• 12:25
  skill
• 12:26
  to
• 12:26
  be
• 12:26
  able
• 12:26
  to
• 12:26
  do
• 12:26
  some
• 12:26
  of
• 12:26
  the
• 12:27
  things
• 12:27
  I'm
• 12:27
  doing.
• 12:27
  But
• 12:27
  I've
• 12:27
  got
• 12:27
  to
• 12:28
  teach
• 12:28
  you
• 12:28
  that
• 12:28
  skill,
• 12:29
  and
• 12:29
  I
• 12:29
  love
• 12:30
  that
• 12:30
  portion
• 12:30
  of
• 12:30
  it,
• 12:30
  and
• 12:30
  I
• 12:31
  know
• 12:31
  you
• 12:31
  do,
• 12:31
  too.
• 12:31
  But
• 12:32
  you
• 12:32
  do
• 12:32
  see
• 12:33
  less
• 12:33
  of
• 12:34
  that,
• 12:34
  I
• 12:35
  think,
• 12:35
  when
• 12:36
  you
• 12:36
  know,
• 12:36
  there's
• 12:37
  training
• 12:37
  rides
• 12:37
  going
• 12:37
  on
• 12:38
  and
• 12:38
  then
• 12:38
  you
• 12:38
  show
• 12:38
  up
• 12:38
  for
• 12:38
  your
• 12:38
  lesson.
• 12:39
  Sometimes
• 12:39
  the
• 12:40
  lessons
• 12:40
  aren't
• 12:40
  as
• 12:41
  maybe
• 12:41
  intricate
• 12:42
  or
• 12:44
  challenging,
• 12:45
  even
• 12:45
  maybe
• 12:45
  as
• 12:46
  they
• 12:46
  should
• 12:46
  be.
• 12:46
  And
• 12:46
  so
• 12:46
  I've
• 12:47
  always
• 12:47
  found
• 12:47
  it
• 12:47
  fun.
• 12:47
  Like,
• 12:48
  you
• 12:48
  know,
• 12:48
  the
• 12:49
  more
• 12:49
  people
• 12:49
  you
• 12:49
  can
• 12:50
  watch
• 12:50
  give
• 12:51
  a
• 12:51
  lesson
• 12:51
  or
• 12:52
  take
• 12:52
  part
• 12:52
  in
• 12:53
  their
• 12:53
  lessons,
• 12:53
  just.
• 12:54
  Just
• 12:54
  because
• 12:54
  I
• 12:55
  think
• 12:55
  you
• 12:55
  pick
• 12:55
  up
• 12:55
  something
• 12:56
  everywhere
• 12:57
  if
• 12:57
  you're
• 12:57
  willing
• 12:57
  to,
• 12:58
  you
• 12:58
  know,
• 12:58
  to
• 12:58
  receive
• 12:58
  it.
• 12:59
  But
• 13:00
  I
• 13:00
  wish
• 13:00
  that
• 13:00
  there
• 13:00
  was
• 13:00
  a
• 13:01
  little
• 13:01
  bit
• 13:01
  more
• 13:01
  of
• 13:01
  the,
• 13:02
  like,
• 13:02
  what
• 13:02
  you
• 13:03
  were
• 13:03
  saying
• 13:03
  would
• 13:03
  happen
• 13:04
  back
• 13:04
  then,
• 13:04
  which
• 13:04
  is,
• 13:05
  I've
• 13:05
  got
• 13:05
  to
• 13:05
  learn
• 13:05
  how
• 13:06
  to
• 13:06
  ride
• 13:06
  this
• 13:06
  horse.
• 13:06
  And
• 13:07
  that's
• 13:07
  a
• 13:07
  skill
• 13:07
  that
• 13:09
  you
• 13:09
  can
• 13:09
  carry
• 13:10
  to
• 13:10
  many
• 13:10
  horses.
• 13:11
  Well,
• 13:11
  and
• 13:11
  I
• 13:11
  think
• 13:12
  that
• 13:12
  this
• 13:12
  is
• 13:12
  such
• 13:12
  a
• 13:13
  big
• 13:13
  discussion
• 13:13
  right
• 13:14
  now
• 13:14
  that
• 13:14
  everybody's
• 13:15
  been
• 13:15
  talking
• 13:16
  about
• 13:17
  the
• 13:18
  loss
• 13:18
  of
• 13:18
  horsemanship.
• 13:20
  And
• 13:20
  I
• 13:20
  think
• 13:21
  that
• 13:22
  in
• 13:22
  the
• 13:22
  70s,
• 13:23
  you
• 13:25
  had
• 13:25
  the
• 13:25
  opportunity
• 13:27
  more
• 13:27
  often
• 13:28
  to
• 13:29
  participate
• 13:30
  in
• 13:30
  learning
• 13:31
  horsemanship.
• 13:33
  And
• 13:33
  I
• 13:33
  would
• 13:33
  say
• 13:34
  when
• 13:34
  we've
• 13:35
  talked
• 13:35
  before,
• 13:35
  you've
• 13:36
  said
• 13:36
  that
• 13:36
  you
• 13:36
  did
• 13:37
  as
• 13:37
  a
• 13:37
  young
• 13:37
  person
• 13:38
  as
• 13:38
  well.
• 13:38
  Oh,
• 13:39
  yeah.
• 13:39
  I
• 13:39
  mean,
• 13:40
  one
• 13:40
  of
• 13:40
  the
• 13:40
  things
• 13:41
  at
• 13:41
  the
• 13:41
  Barn
• 13:41
  where
• 13:41
  I
• 13:42
  grew
• 13:42
  up
• 13:42
  that
• 13:42
  we
• 13:42
  were
• 13:42
  very
• 13:43
  involved
• 13:43
  in
• 13:43
  as
• 13:43
  a
• 13:44
  gosh,
• 13:44
  our
• 13:44
  group
• 13:45
  was
• 13:45
  big,
• 13:45
  was
• 13:46
  4H,
• 13:46
  and
• 13:47
  part
• 13:47
  of
• 13:47
  that
• 13:47
  is
• 13:47
  you
• 13:47
  got
• 13:48
  to
• 13:48
  learn
• 13:48
  how
• 13:48
  to
• 13:48
  breed
• 13:48
  your
• 13:48
  own
• 13:49
  horse.
• 13:49
  And
• 13:49
  then
• 13:49
  you
• 13:49
  go
• 13:49
  to
• 13:49
  this
• 13:50
  show
• 13:50
  and,
• 13:50
  you
• 13:50
  know,
• 13:50
  your
• 13:51
  parents
• 13:51
  can't
• 13:51
  help
• 13:51
  you,
• 13:52
  you've
• 13:52
  got
• 13:52
  to
• 13:52
  do
• 13:52
  it
• 13:52
  all
• 13:52
  or
• 13:53
  your
• 13:53
  friend
• 13:53
  has
• 13:53
  to
• 13:53
  help
• 13:53
  you.
• 13:55
  And
• 13:56
  so
• 13:56
  you
• 13:56
  kind
• 13:56
  of
• 13:56
  get
• 13:56
  thrown
• 13:57
  into
• 13:58
  all
• 13:58
  of
• 13:58
  these
• 13:59
  different
• 13:59
  skills
• 13:59
  you
• 14:00
  didn't
• 14:00
  really
• 14:00
  know
• 14:00
  that
• 14:01
  you
• 14:01
  didn't
• 14:01
  have.
• 14:02
  And
• 14:02
  so
• 14:03
  you
• 14:03
  get
• 14:03
  introduced
• 14:03
  to
• 14:03
  it
• 14:04
  that
• 14:04
  way.
• 14:04
  And
• 14:04
  then
• 14:04
  we'd
• 14:05
  go
• 14:05
  to
• 14:05
  local
• 14:05
  shows.
• 14:05
  But
• 14:06
  I
• 14:06
  mean,
• 14:07
  all
• 14:07
  of
• 14:07
  the
• 14:08
  stuff
• 14:08
  that
• 14:08
  occurred
• 14:09
  with
• 14:09
  our
• 14:09
  horses
• 14:11
  when
• 14:11
  we
• 14:12
  were
• 14:12
  kids,
• 14:12
  I
• 14:12
  mean,
• 14:13
  yeah,
• 14:13
  obviously
• 14:14
  if
• 14:14
  we
• 14:14
  weren't
• 14:14
  there,
• 14:14
  they
• 14:14
  got
• 14:14
  fed
• 14:15
  and
• 14:15
  they
• 14:15
  got
• 14:15
  turned
• 14:15
  out
• 14:15
  and
• 14:15
  all
• 14:15
  of
• 14:16
  that
• 14:16
  other
• 14:16
  stuff,
• 14:16
  but
• 14:17
  all
• 14:17
  of
• 14:17
  the
• 14:17
  kids
• 14:18
  showed
• 14:18
  up
• 14:18
  in
• 14:18
  the
• 14:18
  afternoon
• 14:19
  after
• 14:19
  school.
• 14:19
  And
• 14:20
  then
• 14:20
  in
• 14:20
  the
• 14:20
  summertime.
• 14:21
  I
• 14:22
  mean,
• 14:22
  it
• 14:22
  was.
• 14:22
  We
• 14:22
  were
• 14:23
  there
• 14:23
  from
• 14:23
  the
• 14:23
  moment
• 14:24
  a
• 14:24
  parent
• 14:25
  or
• 14:25
  grandparent
• 14:25
  was
• 14:26
  dropping
• 14:26
  us
• 14:26
  off,
• 14:26
  at
• 14:27
  least,
• 14:27
  if
• 14:27
  not
• 14:27
  later,
• 14:28
  until
• 14:28
  3
• 14:28
  o'
• 14:28
  clock
• 14:28
  in
• 14:29
  the
• 14:29
  afternoon.
• 14:30
  And
• 14:30
  it
• 14:30
  was,
• 14:31
  everybody's
• 14:32
  gotta
• 14:32
  get
• 14:32
  fed
• 14:32
  breakfast.
• 14:33
  And
• 14:33
  I
• 14:33
  mean,
• 14:33
  we're
• 14:34
  talking,
• 14:34
  you
• 14:35
  know,
• 14:35
  good
• 14:35
  20
• 14:35
  some
• 14:36
  horses.
• 14:37
  Everyone's
• 14:37
  gotta
• 14:37
  get
• 14:38
  turned
• 14:38
  out.
• 14:38
  Troughs
• 14:39
  have
• 14:39
  to
• 14:39
  be
• 14:39
  scrubbed
• 14:40
  and
• 14:40
  filled.
• 14:41
  Stalls
• 14:41
  are
• 14:41
  getting
• 14:42
  cleaned,
• 14:42
  shavings
• 14:43
  are
• 14:43
  getting
• 14:43
  added.
• 14:43
  And
• 14:43
  there
• 14:43
  were
• 14:44
  no
• 14:44
  automatic
• 14:44
  waterers.
• 14:45
  I
• 14:45
  mean,
• 14:45
  there
• 14:45
  was.
• 14:46
  We
• 14:46
  had
• 14:47
  one
• 14:47
  spigot
• 14:49
  and
• 14:49
  this
• 14:49
  hose
• 14:50
  of
• 14:51
  multiple
• 14:51
  hoses
• 14:52
  connected
• 14:52
  that
• 14:53
  we
• 14:53
  dragged
• 14:53
  around
• 14:54
  from
• 14:54
  barn
• 14:54
  to
• 14:54
  barn
• 14:54
  to
• 14:55
  trough
• 14:55
  to
• 14:55
  trough.
• 14:55
  And
• 14:56
  we're
• 14:56
  talking
• 14:56
  a
• 14:56
  hike.
• 14:57
  So
• 14:58
  then,
• 14:58
  you
• 14:58
  know,
• 14:58
  you
• 14:58
  drag
• 14:58
  the
• 14:58
  hose
• 14:59
  and
• 14:59
  then
• 14:59
  you
• 14:59
  get
• 14:59
  to
• 14:59
  the
• 14:59
  trough
• 15:00
  and
• 15:00
  you're
• 15:01
  like,
• 15:01
  why
• 15:01
  isn't
• 15:01
  the
• 15:01
  water
• 15:02
  working?
• 15:02
  So
• 15:02
  you
• 15:02
  gotta,
• 15:02
  like,
• 15:03
  follow
• 15:03
  the
• 15:04
  hose
• 15:04
  back
• 15:04
  to
• 15:04
  find
• 15:04
  where
• 15:05
  the
• 15:05
  kink
• 15:05
  is.
• 15:06
  So.
• 15:07
  But
• 15:07
  I
• 15:07
  mean,
• 15:07
  we
• 15:08
  did
• 15:08
  all
• 15:08
  of
• 15:08
  that
• 15:09
  before
• 15:10
  we
• 15:10
  got
• 15:10
  on
• 15:10
  our
• 15:11
  horse.
• 15:11
  But
• 15:12
  one
• 15:12
  of
• 15:12
  the
• 15:13
  great
• 15:13
  things
• 15:13
  is
• 15:14
  you
• 15:14
  touched
• 15:14
  your
• 15:14
  horse
• 15:15
  every
• 15:15
  day,
• 15:15
  you
• 15:15
  picked
• 15:16
  out
• 15:16
  their
• 15:16
  feet
• 15:16
  every
• 15:16
  day.
• 15:17
  You
• 15:17
  were
• 15:17
  putting
• 15:17
  your
• 15:17
  hands
• 15:18
  on
• 15:18
  your
• 15:18
  horse
• 15:18
  every
• 15:19
  day.
• 15:19
  And
• 15:20
  I
• 15:21
  think
• 15:21
  that
• 15:21
  that
• 15:21
  is
• 15:22
  the
• 15:22
  part.
• 15:23
  One
• 15:23
  of
• 15:23
  the
• 15:23
  parts
• 15:23
  of
• 15:24
  riding
• 15:24
  in
• 15:24
  this
• 15:25
  sport
• 15:25
  that
• 15:25
  I
• 15:25
  love
• 15:25
  so
• 15:25
  much,
• 15:26
  or
• 15:26
  even
• 15:26
  if
• 15:27
  you
• 15:27
  just
• 15:27
  do
• 15:27
  it
• 15:27
  as
• 15:27
  a
• 15:28
  hobby,
• 15:30
  is
• 15:31
  knowing
• 15:31
  your
• 15:31
  horse,
• 15:32
  I
• 15:32
  mean,
• 15:32
  that,
• 15:33
  you
• 15:33
  know,
• 15:33
  you
• 15:33
  can
• 15:33
  walk
• 15:34
  out
• 15:34
  on
• 15:34
  any
• 15:34
  given
• 15:35
  day
• 15:35
  and
• 15:35
  see
• 15:36
  the
• 15:36
  eyelid's
• 15:37
  just
• 15:37
  a
• 15:37
  little
• 15:37
  swollen.
• 15:38
  I
• 15:38
  mean,
• 15:38
  they
• 15:38
  might
• 15:38
  be
• 15:39
  totally
• 15:39
  fine,
• 15:39
  but
• 15:39
  it's
• 15:40
  something
• 15:40
  you
• 15:40
  notice,
• 15:41
  you
• 15:41
  know,
• 15:42
  their
• 15:42
  personality,
• 15:43
  you
• 15:43
  know,
• 15:43
  when
• 15:43
  they're
• 15:43
  off,
• 15:43
  you
• 15:43
  know,
• 15:44
  when
• 15:44
  they're
• 15:44
  not
• 15:44
  right.
• 15:45
  You
• 15:46
  learn
• 15:46
  the
• 15:46
  little
• 15:46
  nuances
• 15:47
  about
• 15:47
  them.
• 15:47
  And
• 15:48
  that,
• 15:48
  to
• 15:48
  me,
• 15:49
  is
• 15:49
  part
• 15:50
  of
• 15:50
  the
• 15:50
  lost
• 15:50
  art.
• 15:50
  I
• 15:51
  mean,
• 15:51
  and
• 15:51
  then
• 15:51
  there's
• 15:51
  the
• 15:51
  care.
• 15:52
  But.
• 15:52
  Well,
• 15:52
  it's
• 15:53
  funny
• 15:53
  too.
• 15:54
  Like,
• 15:54
  even
• 15:54
  if
• 15:54
  you
• 15:54
  break
• 15:55
  it
• 15:55
  down
• 15:55
  even
• 15:55
  further,
• 15:55
  when
• 15:56
  you
• 15:56
  were
• 15:56
  talking
• 15:56
  about
• 15:57
  4H
• 15:57
  and
• 15:58
  braiding
• 15:58
  and
• 15:58
  all
• 15:58
  that,
• 15:59
  I
• 15:59
  mean,
• 15:59
  I
• 16:00
  braided.
• 16:00
  I
• 16:01
  don't
• 16:01
  know
• 16:01
  who
• 16:01
  taught
• 16:02
  me,
• 16:02
  I
• 16:02
  don't
• 16:02
  remember,
• 16:03
  but
• 16:03
  I
• 16:03
  braided.
• 16:04
  And
• 16:04
  that
• 16:05
  was
• 16:05
  one
• 16:05
  of
• 16:05
  the
• 16:05
  ways
• 16:05
  that
• 16:06
  I
• 16:06
  made
• 16:06
  money
• 16:07
  to
• 16:07
  be
• 16:07
  able
• 16:07
  to
• 16:08
  horse
• 16:08
  show.
• 16:09
  So
• 16:10
  I
• 16:10
  would
• 16:10
  get
• 16:10
  up
• 16:10
  early
• 16:11
  and
• 16:11
  go
• 16:11
  braid
• 16:11
  two
• 16:12
  of
• 16:12
  my
• 16:12
  friends
• 16:12
  horses,
• 16:13
  get
• 16:13
  some
• 16:14
  money
• 16:14
  and
• 16:14
  that
• 16:14
  would
• 16:14
  pay
• 16:15
  for
• 16:15
  my
• 16:15
  entry
• 16:15
  fees.
• 16:16
  I
• 16:17
  remember
• 16:17
  when
• 16:17
  I
• 16:18
  came,
• 16:19
  moved
• 16:19
  to
• 16:19
  Virginia
• 16:20
  15
• 16:20
  years
• 16:21
  ago
• 16:21
  and
• 16:21
  that's
• 16:22
  when
• 16:22
  I
• 16:23
  basically
• 16:23
  started
• 16:24
  riding
• 16:24
  again.
• 16:24
  I
• 16:25
  stopped
• 16:25
  for
• 16:26
  30,
• 16:27
  whatever
• 16:27
  years.
• 16:28
  And
• 16:30
  I
• 16:31
  know
• 16:31
  how
• 16:31
  to
• 16:31
  braid.
• 16:32
  So
• 16:32
  I
• 16:33
  was
• 16:33
  going
• 16:33
  to
• 16:33
  braid
• 16:33
  my
• 16:33
  own
• 16:34
  horse.
• 16:34
  And
• 16:34
  I
• 16:35
  remember
• 16:35
  like
• 16:36
  my
• 16:37
  trainer
• 16:37
  was
• 16:37
  like,
• 16:38
  whoa,
• 16:38
  no.
• 16:40
  You
• 16:40
  know,
• 16:41
  we
• 16:41
  hire
• 16:42
  a
• 16:42
  braider
• 16:42
  to
• 16:43
  do
• 16:43
  that.
• 16:43
  And
• 16:44
  I'm
• 16:44
  like,
• 16:44
  but
• 16:45
  I
• 16:45
  can
• 16:45
  do
• 16:45
  that.
• 16:46
  And
• 16:46
  that's
• 16:46
  how
• 16:46
  I
• 16:47
  made
• 16:47
  money.
• 16:47
  I
• 16:47
  mean,
• 16:47
  I
• 16:48
  could
• 16:48
  save
• 16:48
  myself
• 16:49
  that
• 16:49
  money.
• 16:50
  And
• 16:50
  so
• 16:51
  the
• 16:51
  explanation
• 16:52
  was.
• 16:52
  And
• 16:52
  it
• 16:53
  made
• 16:53
  sense,
• 16:55
  you
• 16:55
  know,
• 16:56
  kids
• 16:56
  need
• 16:56
  to
• 16:57
  focus
• 16:57
  on
• 16:58
  horse
• 16:59
  showing
• 16:59
  and
• 16:59
  being
• 17:00
  prepared
• 17:00
  to
• 17:00
  come
• 17:00
  and
• 17:01
  horse
• 17:01
  show
• 17:01
  not
• 17:01
  to
• 17:02
  be
• 17:02
  up
• 17:02
  all
• 17:02
  night
• 17:02
  long
• 17:03
  because
• 17:04
  they're
• 17:04
  having
• 17:04
  to
• 17:04
  braid
• 17:05
  their
• 17:05
  horse.
• 17:05
  And
• 17:06
  I
• 17:06
  thought,
• 17:07
  okay,
• 17:07
  I
• 17:08
  mean,
• 17:08
  you
• 17:08
  know,
• 17:08
  whatever.
• 17:09
  But
• 17:11
  you
• 17:11
  realize
• 17:12
  that
• 17:12
  that's
• 17:13
  a
• 17:13
  lost
• 17:13
  art.
• 17:14
  Well,
• 17:14
  it
• 17:14
  isn't
• 17:15
  a
• 17:15
  lost
• 17:15
  art,
• 17:15
  but
• 17:16
  it's
• 17:16
  a
• 17:16
  now,
• 17:17
  I
• 17:17
  guess,
• 17:18
  specialized
• 17:19
  art.
• 17:20
  Yes.
• 17:21
  And
• 17:22
  a
• 17:22
  career
• 17:22
  for
• 17:22
  many
• 17:22
  people.
• 17:23
  Yeah.
• 17:23
  And
• 17:24
  I
• 17:24
  mean,
• 17:25
  having
• 17:27
  recently
• 17:27
  been
• 17:27
  working
• 17:28
  with
• 17:28
  a
• 17:28
  young
• 17:28
  lady
• 17:29
  who's
• 17:29
  braiding
• 17:30
  and
• 17:30
  trying
• 17:31
  to
• 17:31
  show
• 17:31
  and
• 17:32
  I
• 17:32
  don't
• 17:32
  know
• 17:32
  how
• 17:33
  she
• 17:33
  does
• 17:33
  it
• 17:34
  because
• 17:34
  she's
• 17:35
  braiding
• 17:36
  many
• 17:36
  horses
• 17:37
  all
• 17:37
  night
• 17:37
  long.
• 17:38
  She
• 17:38
  goes
• 17:39
  back
• 17:39
  at
• 17:40
  seven
• 17:40
  or
• 17:40
  eight
• 17:40
  o'
• 17:41
  clock
• 17:41
  in
• 17:41
  the
• 17:41
  morning
• 17:41
  to
• 17:41
  the
• 17:42
  hotel,
• 17:42
  sleeps
• 17:43
  for
• 17:43
  a
• 17:43
  couple
• 17:43
  of
• 17:43
  hours
• 17:44
  and
• 17:44
  then
• 17:44
  comes
• 17:44
  and
• 17:45
  tries
• 17:45
  to
• 17:45
  horse
• 17:46
  show.
• 17:46
  And
• 17:46
  I
• 17:46
  mean,
• 17:47
  yeah,
• 17:48
  so
• 17:48
  I
• 17:48
  understand,
• 17:50
  you
• 17:50
  know,
• 17:50
  what
• 17:51
  the
• 17:51
  trainer
• 17:52
  was
• 17:52
  saying
• 17:53
  had
• 17:53
  changed
• 17:54
  since
• 17:54
  I
• 17:55
  had
• 17:55
  been
• 17:55
  gone.
• 17:55
  Oh,
• 17:56
  sure.
• 17:56
  However,
• 17:57
  how
• 17:57
  did
• 17:57
  we
• 17:57
  do
• 17:57
  it?
• 17:58
  I
• 17:58
  don't
• 17:58
  know.
• 17:58
  I
• 17:58
  mean,
• 17:59
  I.
• 17:59
  Maybe
• 17:59
  we
• 18:00
  didn't
• 18:00
  take
• 18:00
  on
• 18:00
  braiding
• 18:01
  seven
• 18:02
  horses.
• 18:02
  You
• 18:02
  might
• 18:02
  have
• 18:03
  braided
• 18:03
  your
• 18:04
  own.
• 18:04
  And
• 18:04
  one
• 18:05
  friend.
• 18:05
  Yeah,
• 18:06
  well,
• 18:08
  I
• 18:08
  know
• 18:08
  how
• 18:08
  to
• 18:08
  braid
• 18:09
  a
• 18:09
  mane,
• 18:09
  but
• 18:10
  I'm
• 18:10
  not
• 18:11
  very
• 18:11
  good
• 18:11
  at
• 18:11
  it.
• 18:11
  I
• 18:11
  don't
• 18:12
  know,
• 18:12
  there's
• 18:12
  something
• 18:12
  about
• 18:13
  my
• 18:13
  technique
• 18:13
  that's
• 18:13
  not
• 18:13
  quite
• 18:14
  right.
• 18:14
  But
• 18:15
  I
• 18:15
  am
• 18:15
  good
• 18:15
  at
• 18:15
  braiding
• 18:15
  a
• 18:16
  tail,
• 18:16
  so
• 18:17
  that
• 18:17
  has
• 18:18
  come
• 18:18
  in
• 18:18
  handy.
• 18:19
  It
• 18:20
  comes
• 18:20
  in
• 18:20
  handy
• 18:20
  when
• 18:20
  you
• 18:20
  want
• 18:20
  to
• 18:20
  do
• 18:20
  a
• 18:21
  French
• 18:21
  braid
• 18:21
  treatment.
• 18:22
  I
• 18:22
  can't
• 18:22
  braid
• 18:23
  myself.
• 18:23
  Can't
• 18:23
  do
• 18:24
  it.
• 18:25
  But
• 18:25
  a
• 18:25
  horse
• 18:25
  is.
• 18:25
  And
• 18:25
  I
• 18:26
  don't
• 18:26
  know
• 18:26
  why.
• 18:26
  Just
• 18:27
  one
• 18:27
  day
• 18:27
  I'm
• 18:27
  sitting
• 18:27
  in
• 18:27
  the
• 18:27
  barn
• 18:28
  messing
• 18:28
  around
• 18:28
  and
• 18:28
  I
• 18:29
  was
• 18:29
  like,
• 18:29
  you
• 18:29
  know,
• 18:29
  I
• 18:29
  really
• 18:29
  think
• 18:29
  I
• 18:30
  could
• 18:30
  figure
• 18:30
  out
• 18:30
  how
• 18:30
  to
• 18:30
  do
• 18:30
  this.
• 18:31
  Just
• 18:31
  really
• 18:31
  liked
• 18:32
  it
• 18:32
  for
• 18:32
  all
• 18:32
  the
• 18:32
  like
• 18:33
  the,
• 18:33
  the
• 18:33
  braiding,
• 18:34
  the
• 18:34
  mane,
• 18:34
  I'm
• 18:35
  like,
• 18:36
  I'll
• 18:36
  pay
• 18:36
  for
• 18:36
  that
• 18:36
  all
• 18:37
  day
• 18:37
  long.
• 18:38
  Like,
• 18:38
  I'm
• 18:38
  not
• 18:38
  very
• 18:39
  good
• 18:39
  at
• 18:39
  it.
• 18:39
  You
• 18:39
  know,
• 18:39
  one
• 18:39
  braid's
• 18:40
  going
• 18:40
  this
• 18:40
  way
• 18:40
  and
• 18:40
  one's
• 18:41
  going
• 18:41
  that
• 18:41
  way,
• 18:41
  but
• 18:41
  the
• 18:41
  tails
• 18:42
  I'm
• 18:42
  pretty
• 18:42
  good
• 18:42
  at.
• 18:42
  And
• 18:43
  that's
• 18:43
  come
• 18:43
  in
• 18:43
  handy.
• 18:44
  I'm
• 18:44
  able
• 18:44
  to
• 18:44
  do
• 18:44
  it
• 18:45
  for
• 18:45
  myself.
• 18:45
  If
• 18:45
  nothing
• 18:46
  else,
• 18:46
  that
• 18:46
  causal,
• 18:47
  you
• 18:47
  know,
• 18:47
  cuts
• 18:47
  a
• 18:47
  little
• 18:48
  cost.
• 18:48
  And
• 18:48
  even
• 18:49
  sometimes
• 18:49
  our
• 18:50
  braider
• 18:50
  has
• 18:50
  been
• 18:50
  like,
• 18:50
  ah,
• 18:51
  I'm
• 18:51
  a
• 18:51
  little,
• 18:51
  like,
• 18:51
  I'm
• 18:52
  a
• 18:52
  few
• 18:52
  minutes
• 18:52
  behind.
• 18:52
  You
• 18:53
  have
• 18:53
  an
• 18:53
  extra
• 18:53
  hour.
• 18:53
  Can
• 18:53
  you
• 18:54
  help
• 18:54
  me,
• 18:54
  you
• 18:54
  know,
• 18:54
  put
• 18:54
  some
• 18:55
  tails
• 18:55
  together?
• 18:55
  I'm
• 18:55
  like,
• 18:56
  absolutely.
• 18:56
  Be
• 18:56
  happy
• 18:57
  to
• 18:57
  do
• 18:57
  it.
• 18:57
  Helps
• 18:57
  me.
• 18:57
  Helps
• 18:58
  her
• 18:58
  good
• 18:58
  skill
• 18:59
  to
• 18:59
  just
• 18:59
  have
• 18:59
  in
• 18:59
  the
• 18:59
  pocket.
• 19:00
  Totally.
• 19:01
  But
• 19:01
  I
• 19:01
  just
• 19:02
  think
• 19:02
  that
• 19:02
  unfortunately,
• 19:04
  you
• 19:04
  know,
• 19:04
  that
• 19:04
  doesn't
• 19:05
  happen
• 19:06
  very
• 19:06
  often
• 19:06
  anymore.
• 19:07
  You're
• 19:07
  right.
• 19:08
  You're
• 19:08
  right.
• 19:09
  So
• 19:10
  tell
• 19:10
  me
• 19:10
  a
• 19:10
  little
• 19:11
  bit
• 19:11
  from
• 19:12
  your
• 19:12
  perspective,
• 19:14
  the
• 19:14
  goal,
• 19:14
  the
• 19:15
  goal
• 19:15
  for
• 19:15
  our
• 19:15
  podcast
• 19:15
  here,
• 19:17
  what
• 19:17
  do
• 19:17
  you
• 19:17
  see
• 19:19
  this
• 19:19
  podcast
• 19:20
  being
• 19:20
  able
• 19:20
  to
• 19:20
  do?
• 19:20
  Well,
• 19:21
  I'm
• 19:21
  hopeful
• 19:22
  that
• 19:22
  people
• 19:22
  will
• 19:23
  engage
• 19:24
  and
• 19:24
  enjoy
• 19:26
  the
• 19:26
  back
• 19:26
  and
• 19:26
  forth
• 19:26
  that
• 19:27
  we
• 19:27
  have
• 19:27
  from
• 19:28
  different
• 19:29
  perspectives.
• 19:31
  And
• 19:32
  I'm
• 19:33
  hopeful
• 19:33
  that
• 19:34
  people
• 19:34
  will
• 19:35
  send
• 19:35
  us
• 19:36
  your
• 19:36
  stories,
• 19:37
  send
• 19:37
  us
• 19:38
  your
• 19:38
  questions,
• 19:39
  tell
• 19:39
  us
• 19:39
  things
• 19:40
  you'd
• 19:40
  like
• 19:40
  for
• 19:41
  us
• 19:41
  to
• 19:41
  talk
• 19:41
  about.
• 19:43
  We
• 19:43
  hope
• 19:44
  to
• 19:44
  have
• 19:45
  lots
• 19:45
  of
• 19:46
  opportunities
• 19:47
  to
• 19:47
  share,
• 19:48
  whether
• 19:48
  it's
• 19:49
  from
• 19:49
  my
• 19:49
  perspective,
• 19:50
  from
• 19:50
  your
• 19:50
  perspective,
• 19:51
  but
• 19:51
  also
• 19:53
  from
• 19:53
  other
• 19:53
  professional
• 19:54
  perspectives,
• 19:56
  to
• 19:57
  just
• 19:58
  talk
• 19:58
  about
• 19:58
  all
• 19:59
  the
• 19:59
  changes
• 19:59
  and
• 20:00
  how
• 20:01
  the
• 20:02
  business
• 20:02
  is
• 20:02
  different,
• 20:03
  but
• 20:03
  how
• 20:04
  we
• 20:04
  can
• 20:05
  keep
• 20:06
  the
• 20:06
  generational
• 20:08
  interest
• 20:09
  going
• 20:11
  and
• 20:11
  keep
• 20:11
  it
• 20:11
  possible.
• 20:11
  I
• 20:12
  mean,
• 20:12
  that's
• 20:13
  a
• 20:13
  big
• 20:13
  thing
• 20:13
  now,
• 20:13
  but.
• 20:15
  Well,
• 20:15
  that's
• 20:15
  one
• 20:15
  more
• 20:16
  thing
• 20:16
  that
• 20:16
  we
• 20:16
  should
• 20:17
  talk
• 20:17
  about
• 20:17
  is
• 20:18
  what
• 20:19
  does
• 20:20
  make
• 20:20
  this
• 20:20
  accessible.
• 20:21
  And
• 20:22
  a
• 20:22
  lot
• 20:22
  of
• 20:22
  people
• 20:23
  right
• 20:23
  now
• 20:24
  are
• 20:24
  discussing
• 20:25
  accessibility
• 20:26
  and
• 20:27
  how
• 20:28
  as
• 20:28
  we've
• 20:28
  just
• 20:29
  shared,
• 20:29
  you
• 20:30
  know,
• 20:30
  for
• 20:30
  me,
• 20:30
  it
• 20:31
  was
• 20:32
  not
• 20:32
  necessarily
• 20:33
  easy,
• 20:33
  but
• 20:34
  it
• 20:34
  was
• 20:35
  something
• 20:35
  that
• 20:36
  was
• 20:36
  accessible
• 20:37
  for
• 20:38
  someone
• 20:38
  who
• 20:38
  didn't
• 20:39
  have
• 20:39
  a
• 20:40
  whole
• 20:40
  ton
• 20:40
  of
• 20:40
  money
• 20:41
  because
• 20:41
  you
• 20:41
  could.
• 20:42
  There
• 20:42
  were
• 20:42
  work
• 20:43
  opportunities
• 20:44
  even
• 20:44
  as
• 20:44
  a
• 20:44
  youngster.
• 20:45
  Right.
• 20:46
  Which
• 20:46
  I
• 20:47
  don't
• 20:47
  necessarily
• 20:48
  see
• 20:48
  in
• 20:48
  all
• 20:48
  barns
• 20:49
  today.
• 20:51
  And
• 20:51
  so
• 20:52
  what
• 20:52
  do
• 20:52
  we
• 20:52
  do
• 20:53
  about
• 20:53
  that?
• 20:54
  Well,
• 20:54
  I
• 20:54
  mean.
• 20:55
  Right.
• 20:55
  I
• 20:55
  think,
• 20:56
  and
• 20:56
  I
• 20:56
  think
• 20:56
  that's
• 20:56
  the
• 20:57
  million
• 20:57
  dollar
• 20:57
  question,
• 20:58
  is
• 20:59
  what
• 20:59
  do
• 20:59
  we
• 20:59
  do
• 21:00
  in
• 21:01
  a
• 21:01
  sport
• 21:02
  where
• 21:02
  even
• 21:03
  our
• 21:05
  governing
• 21:05
  body
• 21:06
  right
• 21:06
  now
• 21:06
  seems
• 21:07
  to
• 21:07
  be
• 21:07
  wanting
• 21:07
  to
• 21:08
  outpace
• 21:09
  people
• 21:10
  in
• 21:11
  cost?
• 21:11
  And,
• 21:13
  you
• 21:13
  know,
• 21:13
  everything
• 21:13
  in
• 21:13
  the
• 21:13
  world
• 21:14
  is
• 21:14
  more
• 21:14
  expensive
• 21:15
  today
• 21:15
  than
• 21:15
  it
• 21:16
  used
• 21:16
  to
• 21:16
  be.
• 21:16
  Of
• 21:16
  course,
• 21:16
  and
• 21:17
  I
• 21:17
  think
• 21:17
  everybody's
• 21:18
  feeling
• 21:18
  that.
• 21:18
  But,
• 21:19
  you
• 21:19
  know,
• 21:19
  how
• 21:20
  do
• 21:20
  we
• 21:20
  get
• 21:20
  back
• 21:20
  to
• 21:21
  the.
• 21:21
  Except
• 21:22
  like
• 21:23
  that
• 21:23
  being
• 21:24
  at
• 21:24
  the
• 21:24
  top,
• 21:25
  biggest
• 21:25
  rated
• 21:26
  horse
• 21:26
  show
• 21:26
  doesn't
• 21:27
  always
• 21:27
  have
• 21:27
  to
• 21:28
  be
• 21:28
  the
• 21:28
  goal
• 21:28
  that
• 21:29
  you
• 21:29
  can
• 21:29
  be
• 21:29
  a
• 21:30
  successful
• 21:30
  rider,
• 21:31
  a
• 21:31
  really
• 21:32
  good
• 21:32
  horsewoman,
• 21:32
  or
• 21:33
  man,
• 21:35
  by
• 21:35
  doing
• 21:36
  things
• 21:36
  the
• 21:36
  way
• 21:36
  that,
• 21:37
  you
• 21:37
  know,
• 21:37
  they've
• 21:38
  always
• 21:38
  been
• 21:38
  done.
• 21:39
  And
• 21:39
  where
• 21:39
  do
• 21:40
  those
• 21:40
  opportunities
• 21:41
  lie?
• 21:41
  I
• 21:41
  mean,
• 21:41
  those
• 21:41
  are
• 21:42
  things
• 21:42
  I'd
• 21:42
  love
• 21:42
  to
• 21:42
  hear
• 21:42
  from
• 21:43
  people
• 21:43
  that
• 21:43
  say,
• 21:43
  okay,
• 21:45
  I've
• 21:45
  got
• 21:45
  the
• 21:45
  program
• 21:46
  where
• 21:46
  people
• 21:47
  can
• 21:47
  pay
• 21:47
  X,
• 21:47
  Y,
• 21:48
  and
• 21:48
  Z,
• 21:48
  but
• 21:48
  they
• 21:48
  can
• 21:48
  also
• 21:48
  work
• 21:49
  this
• 21:49
  part
• 21:49
  off
• 21:49
  for
• 21:49
  me.
• 21:50
  Cause,
• 21:50
  I
• 21:50
  mean,
• 21:50
  that's
• 21:50
  also
• 21:50
  a
• 21:51
  thing.
• 21:51
  People
• 21:51
  have
• 21:51
  a
• 21:52
  really
• 21:52
  hard
• 21:52
  time
• 21:52
  finding
• 21:53
  help.
• 21:53
  But
• 21:53
  also,
• 21:54
  the
• 21:54
  pay
• 21:55
  for
• 21:55
  that
• 21:55
  help
• 21:55
  isn't
• 21:56
  all
• 21:56
  that
• 21:56
  great
• 21:56
  either.
• 21:57
  So
• 21:57
  if
• 21:57
  there's,
• 21:57
  like,
• 21:57
  a
• 21:58
  trade
• 21:58
  situation
• 21:59
  that
• 21:59
  can
• 21:59
  go
• 21:59
  on
• 21:59
  to
• 22:00
  give
• 22:00
  a
• 22:00
  kid
• 22:00
  an
• 22:00
  opportunity
• 22:02
  to
• 22:02
  be
• 22:02
  introduced
• 22:03
  to
• 22:03
  something.
• 22:04
  I've
• 22:04
  seen
• 22:04
  a
• 22:05
  professional
• 22:05
  in
• 22:06
  this
• 22:06
  area
• 22:07
  in
• 22:07
  particular,
• 22:07
  who
• 22:08
  often
• 22:09
  advertises
• 22:10
  for
• 22:10
  working
• 22:11
  students
• 22:12
  and
• 22:13
  outlines
• 22:14
  very
• 22:14
  clearly
• 22:15
  what
• 22:15
  they're
• 22:15
  going
• 22:15
  to
• 22:15
  get
• 22:16
  back.
• 22:16
  And
• 22:17
  I
• 22:17
  think
• 22:17
  that
• 22:17
  that's.
• 22:18
  That's
• 22:19
  a
• 22:19
  big
• 22:19
  thing.
• 22:19
  It's
• 22:20
  not,
• 22:20
  you
• 22:20
  know,
• 22:21
  if
• 22:21
  more
• 22:22
  professionals,
• 22:23
  even
• 22:23
  if
• 22:23
  they
• 22:23
  could
• 22:23
  just
• 22:24
  carve
• 22:24
  that
• 22:25
  out
• 22:25
  for
• 22:25
  one
• 22:25
  or
• 22:26
  two
• 22:27
  people
• 22:27
  just
• 22:28
  to
• 22:28
  help,
• 22:29
  I
• 22:29
  think
• 22:29
  it
• 22:29
  would
• 22:30
  make
• 22:30
  a
• 22:30
  big
• 22:30
  difference.
• 22:31
  Well,
• 22:31
  and
• 22:31
  I
• 22:31
  think,
• 22:31
  too,
• 22:32
  you
• 22:32
  know,
• 22:33
  obviously,
• 22:34
  Yousef
• 22:34
  is
• 22:35
  getting
• 22:35
  a
• 22:35
  ton
• 22:35
  of
• 22:35
  pushback
• 22:36
  with
• 22:36
  the
• 22:37
  raising
• 22:37
  of
• 22:38
  the
• 22:38
  prices,
• 22:38
  and
• 22:39
  that's
• 22:39
  a
• 22:39
  whole.
• 22:39
  That
• 22:40
  could
• 22:40
  be
• 22:40
  a
• 22:40
  whole
• 22:40
  episode.
• 22:42
  But,
• 22:43
  you
• 22:43
  know,
• 22:44
  at
• 22:44
  the
• 22:44
  same
• 22:44
  time,
• 22:45
  we've
• 22:45
  sort
• 22:46
  of
• 22:46
  done
• 22:46
  this
• 22:46
  thing
• 22:46
  where
• 22:46
  we've
• 22:47
  shot
• 22:47
  ourselves
• 22:47
  in
• 22:47
  the
• 22:47
  foot.
• 22:48
  It's
• 22:48
  like,
• 22:49
  go
• 22:49
  bigger,
• 22:50
  go
• 22:50
  better.
• 22:51
  Highest
• 22:52
  level,
• 22:52
  highest
• 22:53
  prices
• 22:54
  over
• 22:54
  here,
• 22:54
  and
• 22:54
  shoot
• 22:55
  for
• 22:55
  the.
• 22:55
  Shoot
• 22:55
  for
• 22:56
  that
• 22:56
  star.
• 22:57
  And
• 22:58
  meanwhile,
• 22:58
  we've
• 22:59
  got
• 22:59
  these
• 22:59
  lesson
• 23:00
  programs
• 23:00
  and
• 23:01
  smaller
• 23:01
  barns
• 23:01
  that
• 23:02
  are
• 23:02
  not
• 23:02
  as
• 23:02
  successful
• 23:03
  as
• 23:03
  they
• 23:03
  once
• 23:03
  were
• 23:04
  because
• 23:04
  people
• 23:04
  are
• 23:05
  moving
• 23:05
  on
• 23:05
  to
• 23:06
  where
• 23:06
  you
• 23:06
  pour
• 23:06
  in
• 23:06
  the
• 23:07
  money.
• 23:07
  And
• 23:07
  it's
• 23:07
  like
• 23:07
  both
• 23:08
  of
• 23:08
  them,
• 23:08
  in
• 23:08
  my
• 23:08
  opinion,
• 23:09
  could
• 23:09
  be
• 23:09
  successful,
• 23:11
  have
• 23:11
  a
• 23:11
  huge
• 23:11
  benefit
• 23:12
  to
• 23:12
  our
• 23:12
  entire
• 23:13
  community
• 23:13
  of
• 23:14
  riders
• 23:14
  and
• 23:14
  horses
• 23:15
  as
• 23:15
  a
• 23:15
  whole.
• 23:16
  And
• 23:16
  it's
• 23:17
  sort
• 23:17
  of
• 23:17
  like,
• 23:17
  how
• 23:17
  do
• 23:18
  we
• 23:18
  make
• 23:18
  sure
• 23:18
  that
• 23:18
  those
• 23:19
  just
• 23:19
  pour
• 23:20
  your
• 23:20
  money
• 23:20
  into
• 23:20
  its
• 23:21
  side,
• 23:21
  doesn't
• 23:22
  wipe
• 23:22
  out
• 23:22
  the
• 23:23
  small
• 23:23
  guy?
• 23:24
  Yeah.
• 23:24
  I
• 23:24
  mean,
• 23:24
  as
• 23:25
  you're
• 23:25
  talking,
• 23:25
  I'm
• 23:25
  just
• 23:26
  thinking,
• 23:26
  do
• 23:26
  we
• 23:26
  almost
• 23:26
  even
• 23:27
  need
• 23:27
  a
• 23:27
  separate
• 23:28
  organization
• 23:29
  just
• 23:29
  for
• 23:29
  the.
• 23:30
  Well,
• 23:30
  for
• 23:30
  the
• 23:31
  general.
• 23:32
  Well,
• 23:32
  it
• 23:32
  is
• 23:32
  interesting
• 23:33
  because
• 23:33
  I
• 23:33
  feel
• 23:33
  like
• 23:33
  when
• 23:34
  I
• 23:34
  was
• 23:34
  growing
• 23:34
  up,
• 23:34
  the
• 23:35
  local
• 23:35
  circuit
• 23:36
  was
• 23:36
  enormous.
• 23:37
  I
• 23:37
  mean,
• 23:37
  just
• 23:38
  enormous.
• 23:39
  And
• 23:39
  the
• 23:40
  divisions,
• 23:40
  the
• 23:40
  morning
• 23:41
  divisions
• 23:41
  were
• 23:41
  huge.
• 23:42
  And
• 23:42
  it
• 23:42
  took
• 23:42
  forever.
• 23:42
  I'd
• 23:43
  be
• 23:43
  like,
• 23:43
  oh,
• 23:43
  my
• 23:43
  God,
• 23:43
  when
• 23:43
  are
• 23:44
  we
• 23:44
  going
• 23:44
  to
• 23:44
  get
• 23:44
  to
• 23:44
  the
• 23:44
  children's
• 23:45
  division?
• 23:46
  You
• 23:46
  know,
• 23:47
  midnight.
• 23:48
  And
• 23:48
  then
• 23:49
  as
• 23:49
  I
• 23:50
  got
• 23:50
  a
• 23:50
  little
• 23:50
  bit
• 23:50
  older,
• 23:51
  like
• 23:51
  later
• 23:51
  teenage,
• 23:52
  it
• 23:52
  was
• 23:52
  sort
• 23:52
  of
• 23:52
  like,
• 23:52
  maybe
• 23:53
  the
• 23:53
  local
• 23:53
  shows
• 23:54
  were
• 23:54
  busy,
• 23:54
  but
• 23:55
  they
• 23:55
  weren't.
• 23:55
  Like,
• 23:56
  the
• 23:56
  entries
• 23:56
  were
• 23:56
  not
• 23:57
  what
• 23:57
  I
• 23:57
  remember
• 23:58
  them
• 23:58
  being
• 23:58
  when
• 23:58
  I
• 23:58
  was
• 23:58
  a
• 23:58
  kid.
• 24:00
  And
• 24:00
  now
• 24:01
  I
• 24:01
  feel
• 24:01
  like
• 24:01
  there's
• 24:01
  almost
• 24:02
  like
• 24:02
  a
• 24:03
  little
• 24:03
  bit
• 24:03
  of
• 24:03
  a
• 24:03
  shift
• 24:04
  Back.
• 24:04
  And
• 24:05
  I
• 24:05
  see
• 24:05
  a
• 24:06
  ton
• 24:06
  of
• 24:06
  local
• 24:07
  organizations
• 24:09
  and
• 24:09
  associations
• 24:10
  doing
• 24:10
  a
• 24:11
  lot
• 24:11
  to
• 24:11
  try
• 24:12
  and
• 24:12
  give
• 24:13
  back
• 24:13
  to,
• 24:13
  you
• 24:14
  know,
• 24:14
  the
• 24:15
  participants
• 24:15
  and
• 24:16
  have
• 24:16
  fun
• 24:17
  prizes
• 24:17
  and
• 24:18
  I
• 24:18
  mean,
• 24:18
  you
• 24:18
  can,
• 24:18
  you
• 24:18
  know,
• 24:19
  I
• 24:19
  always
• 24:19
  wanted
• 24:19
  to
• 24:19
  win
• 24:19
  a
• 24:20
  cooler.
• 24:21
  Haven't
• 24:21
  done
• 24:21
  that
• 24:21
  yet.
• 24:22
  My
• 24:22
  horse
• 24:22
  has.
• 24:25
  But,
• 24:25
  you
• 24:26
  know,
• 24:26
  saddle
• 24:27
  pads
• 24:27
  and
• 24:27
  halters
• 24:28
  and
• 24:29
  leather
• 24:29
  goods
• 24:29
  and,
• 24:31
  you
• 24:31
  know,
• 24:31
  and
• 24:31
  I
• 24:31
  think
• 24:32
  too,
• 24:32
  like,
• 24:32
  there's
• 24:33
  a
• 24:33
  lot
• 24:33
  of
• 24:33
  good
• 24:33
  camaraderie
• 24:34
  coming
• 24:34
  back
• 24:35
  to
• 24:35
  it.
• 24:35
  And
• 24:35
  it
• 24:35
  almost
• 24:35
  makes
• 24:36
  you
• 24:36
  think,
• 24:36
  okay,
• 24:38
  if
• 24:38
  this
• 24:38
  is
• 24:39
  what
• 24:39
  our
• 24:39
  big
• 24:39
  governing
• 24:40
  body
• 24:40
  is
• 24:40
  doing
• 24:42
  to
• 24:42
  us,
• 24:43
  which
• 24:43
  is
• 24:43
  pushing
• 24:44
  out
• 24:44
  the
• 24:44
  people
• 24:44
  that
• 24:45
  are
• 24:45
  just
• 24:45
  inching
• 24:46
  by
• 24:46
  to
• 24:46
  be
• 24:46
  able
• 24:47
  to
• 24:47
  afford
• 24:47
  to
• 24:47
  show
• 24:48
  on
• 24:48
  that
• 24:48
  level,
• 24:50
  then
• 24:50
  maybe
• 24:50
  the.
• 24:51
  Maybe
• 24:51
  the
• 24:51
  thing
• 24:51
  is
• 24:52
  you
• 24:52
  go
• 24:52
  back,
• 24:53
  you
• 24:53
  support
• 24:53
  your
• 24:54
  local
• 24:54
  organizations
• 24:55
  and
• 24:55
  you
• 24:55
  go
• 24:55
  for
• 24:55
  the
• 24:55
  one
• 24:56
  or
• 24:56
  two
• 24:56
  day
• 24:57
  local
• 24:57
  horse
• 24:57
  shows
• 24:57
  and
• 24:58
  you
• 24:58
  have
• 24:58
  a
• 24:58
  blast
• 24:58
  and
• 24:59
  you
• 25:00
  don't
• 25:00
  have
• 25:00
  to
• 25:00
  break
• 25:01
  the
• 25:01
  bank
• 25:01
  in
• 25:01
  the
• 25:02
  process.
• 25:02
  Right.
• 25:03
  The
• 25:03
  rings
• 25:04
  are
• 25:04
  dressed
• 25:04
  up,
• 25:05
  the
• 25:05
  jumps
• 25:05
  are
• 25:06
  nice,
• 25:06
  the
• 25:06
  people
• 25:07
  are
• 25:07
  fun,
• 25:08
  you
• 25:08
  know,
• 25:08
  and
• 25:08
  you're
• 25:08
  not
• 25:09
  being.
• 25:09
  It's
• 25:09
  not
• 25:09
  a
• 25:10
  rat
• 25:10
  race
• 25:11
  sort
• 25:11
  of
• 25:11
  thing.
• 25:12
  Yeah.
• 25:12
  It
• 25:12
  almost
• 25:12
  seems
• 25:13
  like
• 25:13
  somebody
• 25:14
  needs
• 25:15
  to
• 25:15
  concentrate
• 25:16
  on
• 25:17
  marketing
• 25:18
  back
• 25:18
  that
• 25:19
  again.
• 25:20
  Well,
• 25:20
  and
• 25:21
  from
• 25:22
  the
• 25:22
  feedback
• 25:22
  I've
• 25:22
  gotten
• 25:23
  from
• 25:23
  some
• 25:23
  friends,
• 25:23
  they
• 25:23
  were
• 25:24
  like,
• 25:24
  it
• 25:24
  is
• 25:24
  competitive
• 25:25
  and
• 25:26
  that's
• 25:26
  what
• 25:26
  I
• 25:26
  love.
• 25:26
  I'm
• 25:27
  like,
• 25:27
  I
• 25:27
  like,
• 25:27
  good,
• 25:28
  let's
• 25:28
  let
• 25:28
  it
• 25:28
  be
• 25:28
  competitive.
• 25:29
  That's
• 25:29
  the
• 25:29
  whole
• 25:29
  point.
• 25:30
  It
• 25:30
  is,
• 25:30
  you
• 25:30
  know,
• 25:31
  that's
• 25:31
  fine
• 25:31
  if
• 25:31
  I'm
• 25:31
  not
• 25:31
  the
• 25:32
  winner,
• 25:32
  but
• 25:32
  I
• 25:32
  want
• 25:32
  to
• 25:32
  be
• 25:32
  beat.
• 25:33
  Well,
• 25:34
  and
• 25:34
  the
• 25:34
  problem
• 25:34
  is,
• 25:35
  is
• 25:35
  even
• 25:35
  if
• 25:35
  you're
• 25:36
  on
• 25:36
  the
• 25:36
  lower
• 25:37
  end
• 25:37
  of
• 25:37
  trying
• 25:38
  to
• 25:39
  break
• 25:40
  into
• 25:40
  the
• 25:40
  higher
• 25:40
  end.
• 25:41
  Right.
• 25:41
  You're
• 25:42
  probably
• 25:42
  never
• 25:42
  going
• 25:43
  to
• 25:43
  be
• 25:43
  as
• 25:43
  successful
• 25:44
  because
• 25:44
  you
• 25:44
  won't
• 25:45
  have
• 25:45
  the
• 25:45
  horse
• 25:46
  that
• 25:46
  you
• 25:46
  need
• 25:47
  that.
• 25:47
  Well,
• 25:48
  as
• 25:48
  I
• 25:48
  like
• 25:48
  to
• 25:48
  call
• 25:48
  it,
• 25:48
  the
• 25:49
  pay
• 25:49
  to
• 25:49
  play.
• 25:49
  Yeah.
• 25:50
  You
• 25:51
  won't
• 25:51
  be
• 25:51
  able
• 25:51
  to.
• 25:52
  You
• 25:52
  might
• 25:53
  get
• 25:53
  a
• 25:54
  low
• 25:54
  ribbon.
• 25:55
  Right.
• 25:55
  And
• 25:55
  for
• 25:56
  me,
• 25:56
  like,
• 25:56
  I
• 25:56
  mean,
• 25:56
  that's
• 25:57
  good.
• 25:57
  Yeah.
• 25:58
  When
• 25:58
  I
• 25:58
  was
• 25:59
  breaking
• 25:59
  into
• 25:59
  the
• 26:00
  rated
• 26:00
  shows
• 26:00
  as
• 26:00
  a
• 26:01
  junior,
• 26:02
  my
• 26:03
  horse
• 26:03
  didn't
• 26:03
  have
• 26:04
  the
• 26:04
  ability
• 26:04
  to
• 26:04
  do
• 26:05
  the
• 26:05
  3:6
• 26:06
  that
• 26:06
  we
• 26:06
  also
• 26:07
  didn't
• 26:07
  have
• 26:07
  the
• 26:07
  three,
• 26:07
  three
• 26:08
  juniors
• 26:08
  at
• 26:08
  the
• 26:09
  time.
• 26:10
  So
• 26:10
  it
• 26:10
  was
• 26:10
  either
• 26:10
  children's
• 26:11
  at
• 26:11
  3
• 26:11
  foot
• 26:11
  or
• 26:12
  36
• 26:12
  juniors.
• 26:12
  And
• 26:13
  I
• 26:13
  was
• 26:13
  like,
• 26:13
  okay,
• 26:13
  well
• 26:14
  we'll
• 26:14
  do
• 26:14
  the
• 26:14
  children's.
• 26:16
  And
• 26:16
  he
• 26:16
  got
• 26:16
  some
• 26:17
  decent
• 26:17
  ribbons.
• 26:17
  And
• 26:17
  he
• 26:18
  was
• 26:18
  a
• 26:18
  thoroughbred
• 26:18
  in
• 26:18
  a
• 26:19
  market
• 26:19
  of
• 26:19
  warmbloods
• 26:20
  coming
• 26:20
  in.
• 26:20
  You
• 26:20
  know,
• 26:20
  that
• 26:20
  was
• 26:21
  like,
• 26:21
  that
• 26:21
  shift
• 26:21
  was
• 26:22
  really,
• 26:22
  really
• 26:23
  prevalent
• 26:23
  at
• 26:23
  the
• 26:23
  time.
• 26:26
  But
• 26:26
  we
• 26:27
  got
• 26:27
  some
• 26:27
  decent
• 26:27
  ribbons.
• 26:28
  And
• 26:28
  for
• 26:28
  me,
• 26:30
  when
• 26:31
  that
• 26:31
  first
• 26:31
  started
• 26:31
  happening,
• 26:32
  I
• 26:32
  was
• 26:32
  like,
• 26:32
  oh
• 26:32
  my
• 26:32
  God,
• 26:33
  I
• 26:34
  got
• 26:34
  some
• 26:34
  ribbons
• 26:35
  against
• 26:35
  really
• 26:35
  nice
• 26:35
  horses.
• 26:36
  I
• 26:36
  mean,
• 26:36
  my
• 26:36
  horse
• 26:37
  is
• 26:37
  nice,
• 26:37
  but
• 26:38
  I'm
• 26:38
  holding
• 26:38
  my
• 26:39
  own.
• 26:39
  But
• 26:39
  then
• 26:40
  there's
• 26:40
  that.
• 26:41
  And
• 26:41
  that's
• 26:41
  a
• 26:41
  good
• 26:41
  thing.
• 26:42
  Competition
• 26:42
  and
• 26:43
  drive
• 26:43
  and
• 26:44
  determination
• 26:44
  to
• 26:45
  want
• 26:45
  more,
• 26:45
  to
• 26:45
  do
• 26:45
  more
• 26:48
  is
• 26:48
  a
• 26:48
  good
• 26:48
  thing.
• 26:49
  But
• 26:50
  I
• 26:50
  did
• 26:50
  get
• 26:51
  out
• 26:51
  horsed
• 26:51
  eventually.
• 26:53
  You
• 26:53
  know,
• 26:53
  I
• 26:54
  could
• 26:54
  put
• 26:54
  in
• 26:55
  the
• 26:55
  best
• 26:55
  round.
• 26:57
  My
• 26:57
  horse
• 26:58
  being
• 26:58
  the
• 26:58
  best
• 26:58
  he
• 26:58
  had
• 26:59
  been
• 26:59
  that
• 26:59
  day,
• 26:59
  couldn't
• 27:00
  have
• 27:00
  asked
• 27:00
  for
• 27:00
  anything
• 27:01
  more.
• 27:02
  And
• 27:02
  you
• 27:03
  still
• 27:03
  got
• 27:03
  the
• 27:04
  lower
• 27:04
  ribbon
• 27:04
  or
• 27:05
  you
• 27:05
  didn't
• 27:05
  get
• 27:05
  a
• 27:05
  ribbon
• 27:06
  at
• 27:06
  all.
• 27:06
  And
• 27:06
  that's
• 27:06
  hard,
• 27:07
  especially
• 27:07
  when
• 27:08
  you
• 27:08
  love
• 27:08
  the
• 27:08
  horse
• 27:08
  and
• 27:08
  you
• 27:08
  believe
• 27:09
  in
• 27:09
  the
• 27:09
  horse
• 27:09
  and
• 27:09
  all
• 27:09
  that.
• 27:10
  To
• 27:10
  be
• 27:10
  like,
• 27:10
  okay,
• 27:11
  so
• 27:11
  I
• 27:11
  have
• 27:12
  to
• 27:12
  shift
• 27:12
  to
• 27:12
  be
• 27:12
  able
• 27:13
  to
• 27:13
  play
• 27:13
  the
• 27:13
  game
• 27:13
  and
• 27:14
  level
• 27:14
  my
• 27:15
  playing
• 27:15
  field.
• 27:17
  Well,
• 27:17
  that's
• 27:17
  exactly
• 27:18
  what
• 27:18
  happened.
• 27:18
  And
• 27:18
  that's
• 27:18
  hard.
• 27:19
  That's
• 27:19
  hard
• 27:19
  for
• 27:19
  a
• 27:20
  lot
• 27:20
  of
• 27:20
  people
• 27:20
  to
• 27:20
  do.
• 27:21
  That's
• 27:21
  exactly
• 27:21
  what
• 27:21
  happened.
• 27:21
  Without
• 27:21
  my
• 27:22
  mom,
• 27:22
  I
• 27:22
  wouldn't
• 27:22
  have
• 27:22
  been
• 27:22
  able
• 27:22
  to.
• 27:23
  That's
• 27:24
  exactly
• 27:24
  what
• 27:24
  happened
• 27:25
  to
• 27:25
  me.
• 27:25
  I
• 27:25
  mean,
• 27:26
  when
• 27:26
  I
• 27:27
  grew
• 27:27
  up
• 27:28
  riding,
• 27:28
  everybody
• 27:29
  was
• 27:29
  riding
• 27:30
  thoroughbreds.
• 27:30
  I
• 27:30
  mean,
• 27:30
  Idol,
• 27:31
  Dyson,
• 27:31
  everybody,
• 27:32
  you
• 27:32
  know,
• 27:32
  all
• 27:33
  the
• 27:33
  famous
• 27:35
  horses
• 27:36
  were
• 27:36
  all
• 27:36
  thoroughbreds.
• 27:37
  Yeah.
• 27:37
  Show
• 27:37
  jumpers
• 27:38
  to
• 27:38
  local
• 27:38
  shows,
• 27:38
  to
• 27:38
  radio
• 27:39
  shows,
• 27:39
  all
• 27:39
  of
• 27:39
  them.
• 27:39
  All
• 27:40
  of
• 27:40
  them.
• 27:40
  So
• 27:40
  when
• 27:40
  I
• 27:41
  came
• 27:42
  back
• 27:42
  to
• 27:42
  riding,
• 27:43
  that's
• 27:43
  all
• 27:44
  I
• 27:44
  knew.
• 27:44
  I
• 27:44
  don't
• 27:45
  even
• 27:45
  know.
• 27:45
  I
• 27:45
  never
• 27:46
  sat
• 27:46
  on
• 27:46
  a
• 27:46
  warmblood
• 27:47
  in
• 27:47
  my
• 27:47
  life.
• 27:47
  I
• 27:47
  didn't
• 27:47
  know
• 27:48
  how
• 27:48
  hard
• 27:48
  to
• 27:48
  kick.
• 27:51
  And
• 27:51
  so
• 27:53
  that.
• 27:53
  And
• 27:53
  I
• 27:53
  remember
• 27:54
  my
• 27:55
  just
• 27:55
  being
• 27:55
  determined
• 27:56
  and
• 27:57
  doing
• 27:57
  the
• 27:57
  adult
• 27:58
  amateurs
• 27:58
  and
• 27:58
  my
• 27:59
  trainer
• 28:00
  said,
• 28:00
  you
• 28:01
  know,
• 28:01
  if
• 28:01
  you
• 28:02
  want
• 28:02
  to
• 28:02
  be
• 28:02
  competitive,
• 28:03
  it's
• 28:03
  an
• 28:04
  expensive
• 28:04
  sport,
• 28:05
  but
• 28:05
  it's
• 28:06
  a
• 28:06
  lot
• 28:06
  of
• 28:06
  money
• 28:06
  to
• 28:07
  go
• 28:07
  to
• 28:07
  these
• 28:07
  shows
• 28:08
  and
• 28:08
  not
• 28:08
  really
• 28:09
  be
• 28:09
  competitive
• 28:10
  because
• 28:11
  of
• 28:11
  your
• 28:11
  horse.
• 28:11
  Well,
• 28:12
  and
• 28:12
  that's
• 28:12
  where
• 28:12
  we
• 28:12
  got
• 28:12
  too.
• 28:13
  It's
• 28:13
  tossing
• 28:14
  all
• 28:14
  of
• 28:14
  this
• 28:14
  money
• 28:14
  and
• 28:15
  you're
• 28:15
  doing,
• 28:16
  you're
• 28:16
  your
• 28:16
  best
• 28:17
  and
• 28:17
  you
• 28:18
  are
• 28:18
  laying
• 28:19
  it
• 28:19
  all
• 28:19
  out
• 28:19
  on
• 28:20
  the
• 28:20
  field,
• 28:20
  if
• 28:20
  you
• 28:20
  will.
• 28:21
  And
• 28:21
  then
• 28:22
  to
• 28:22
  not
• 28:22
  be
• 28:22
  rewarded,
• 28:23
  you
• 28:23
  know,
• 28:23
  that's
• 28:24
  a
• 28:24
  gut
• 28:24
  punch.
• 28:25
  And
• 28:26
  like
• 28:27
  you
• 28:27
  said,
• 28:27
  you're
• 28:28
  tossing
• 28:28
  all
• 28:28
  this
• 28:28
  money
• 28:29
  into
• 28:29
  it.
• 28:29
  So
• 28:29
  you're
• 28:29
  like,
• 28:29
  you
• 28:30
  gotta
• 28:30
  be
• 28:30
  joking.
• 28:31
  So
• 28:31
  I
• 28:31
  have
• 28:31
  like
• 28:32
  picked
• 28:33
  and
• 28:33
  choosed
• 28:34
  and
• 28:34
  done
• 28:34
  all
• 28:34
  these
• 28:34
  things
• 28:35
  about
• 28:35
  the
• 28:35
  show
• 28:35
  I'm
• 28:35
  gonna
• 28:36
  go
• 28:36
  to,
• 28:36
  and
• 28:36
  this
• 28:36
  is
• 28:36
  where
• 28:37
  we're
• 28:37
  gonna
• 28:37
  spend
• 28:37
  our
• 28:37
  money.
• 28:37
  And
• 28:38
  I
• 28:38
  am
• 28:38
  the
• 28:38
  most
• 28:38
  prepared
• 28:39
  I've
• 28:39
  been.
• 28:39
  And,
• 28:40
  you
• 28:41
  know,
• 28:41
  takes
• 28:42
  your
• 28:42
  breath
• 28:42
  away.
• 28:42
  And
• 28:42
  that's
• 28:43
  hard.
• 28:43
  That's
• 28:43
  a
• 28:44
  hard
• 28:44
  thing
• 28:44
  to,
• 28:45
  to
• 28:45
  go
• 28:45
  through.
• 28:45
  But.
• 28:46
  All
• 28:46
  right,
• 28:46
  so
• 28:47
  as
• 28:47
  we're
• 28:47
  winding
• 28:47
  down
• 28:47
  here,
• 28:49
  we
• 28:49
  want
• 28:49
  to
• 28:49
  invite
• 28:50
  you
• 28:50
  guys,
• 28:50
  share.
• 28:51
  Share
• 28:51
  a
• 28:52
  cringe
• 28:52
  worthy
• 28:52
  barn
• 28:53
  story
• 28:53
  or
• 28:54
  something
• 28:54
  you
• 28:54
  think
• 28:54
  would
• 28:55
  be
• 28:55
  fun
• 28:55
  for
• 28:55
  us
• 28:55
  to
• 28:56
  talk
• 28:56
  about
• 28:56
  or
• 28:56
  a
• 28:57
  topic
• 28:57
  or
• 28:58
  something
• 28:58
  that's
• 28:59
  happened
• 28:59
  to
• 28:59
  you
• 28:59
  or
• 28:59
  that
• 28:59
  you
• 29:00
  can
• 29:00
  relate
• 29:00
  to.
• 29:01
  We're
• 29:01
  really
• 29:01
  excited
• 29:02
  to
• 29:02
  start
• 29:03
  on
• 29:03
  this
• 29:03
  journey
• 29:04
  with
• 29:04
  you.
• 29:05
  Guys,
• 29:05
  so
• 29:06
  let
• 29:06
  us
• 29:06
  know.
• 29:07
  Drop
• 29:07
  us
• 29:07
  a
• 29:07
  line.
• 29:08
  That's
• 29:08
  a
• 29:08
  wrap
• 29:09
  for
• 29:09
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• 29:09
  first
• 29:09
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• 29:10
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• 29:10
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