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- 0:02From
- 0:02the
- 0:03Mutual
- 0:03Broadcasting
- 0:04System,
- 0:04this
- 0:05is
- 0:06STRAT
- 0:06-
- 0:06Strategic
- 0:07Risk
- 0:07Assessment
- 0:08Talk.
- 0:11When
- 0:12the
- 0:12world
- 0:12at
- 0:12odds
- 0:13and
- 0:13risks
- 0:13run
- 0:14high,
- 0:15tune
- 0:16in
- 0:16each
- 0:16week
- 0:17where
- 0:17insights
- 0:18never
- 0:18lie.
- 0:21STRAT
- 0:21to
- 0:22show
- 0:22on
- 0:22wars
- 0:23and
- 0:23peace.
- 0:24From
- 0:25conflicts
- 0:25old
- 0:26to
- 0:26new,
- 0:26crises
- 0:27unleashed,
- 0:31threats
- 0:32unfold.
- 0:33But
- 0:33how
- 0:33can
- 0:33braving
- 0:34stories
- 0:35bold,
- 0:35from
- 0:35espionage
- 0:36to
- 0:37economic
- 0:37might
- 0:38bring
- 0:38perspective
- 0:39see
- 0:39the
- 0:40light?
- 0:40Every
- 0:41week
- 0:42across
- 0:42the
- 0:42globe,
- 0:43we
- 0:43spin
- 0:44decoding
- 0:45gray
- 0:45zones
- 0:46where
- 0:46battles
- 0:47often
- 0:47begin.
- 0:52Now,
- 0:53retired
- 0:53marine
- 0:54intelligence
- 0:54officer
- 0:55and
- 0:55globally
- 0:55recognized
- 0:56risk
- 0:57expert,
- 0:57Hal
- 0:57Kemper.
- 0:59Well,
- 1:00Welcome
- 1:00to
- 1:00STRAT
- 1:00-
- 1:00Strategi
- 1:01risk
- 1:01Assessment
- 1:02talk.
- 1:02This
- 1:02is
- 1:02Hal
- 1:02Kemper,
- 1:03your
- 1:03host.
- 1:03And
- 1:04after
- 1:04a
- 1:04long
- 1:05pause,
- 1:05we
- 1:05are
- 1:06starting
- 1:06up
- 1:06the
- 1:06Strat
- 1:07podcast
- 1:07again,
- 1:07and
- 1:08I
- 1:08hope
- 1:08you
- 1:08enjoy
- 1:08it.
- 1:09We
- 1:09have
- 1:09a
- 1:09little.
- 1:09Well,
- 1:10I
- 1:10should
- 1:10explain
- 1:10the
- 1:11we
- 1:11part
- 1:11first
- 1:11off,
- 1:12but
- 1:12there's
- 1:12a
- 1:12little
- 1:12bit
- 1:12different
- 1:13format.
- 1:13All
- 1:13right.
- 1:14We
- 1:14is
- 1:15basically
- 1:16the
- 1:16team
- 1:17we
- 1:17have
- 1:17that
- 1:17puts
- 1:17these
- 1:18together.
- 1:18But
- 1:19before
- 1:19I
- 1:19say
- 1:19anything
- 1:20more
- 1:20for
- 1:20those
- 1:20who
- 1:21have
- 1:21listened
- 1:21to
- 1:21strat
- 1:21in
- 1:22the
- 1:22past,
- 1:22you
- 1:22remember
- 1:23my
- 1:23partner,
- 1:23Mark
- 1:23Mansfield.
- 1:24He
- 1:24and
- 1:24I
- 1:24are
- 1:25business
- 1:25partners.
- 1:25We
- 1:26go
- 1:26back
- 1:26a
- 1:26long
- 1:26way,
- 1:27friends,
- 1:28and
- 1:28sadly,
- 1:29tragically,
- 1:30he
- 1:30passed
- 1:30away
- 1:31at
- 1:31Christmas
- 1:32and
- 1:32caught
- 1:32all
- 1:33of
- 1:33us
- 1:33by
- 1:33surprise.
- 1:34The
- 1:34last
- 1:34person
- 1:35you
- 1:35would
- 1:35have
- 1:35thought
- 1:36would
- 1:36pass
- 1:36away,
- 1:37he
- 1:37was.
- 1:38As
- 1:38far
- 1:38as
- 1:38we
- 1:38knew,
- 1:38he
- 1:39was
- 1:39in
- 1:39great
- 1:39physical
- 1:40shape.
- 1:40He
- 1:40used
- 1:41to
- 1:41go
- 1:41run
- 1:41at
- 1:41noon
- 1:42with
- 1:42weight
- 1:42vests
- 1:43on.
- 1:43I
- 1:43mean,
- 1:43he
- 1:43just
- 1:44was
- 1:44somebody
- 1:44you
- 1:44wouldn't
- 1:45expect
- 1:45something
- 1:45to
- 1:46happen
- 1:46to.
- 1:46And
- 1:47he.
- 1:47He
- 1:47just
- 1:48suddenly
- 1:48passed
- 1:48away
- 1:49due
- 1:49to
- 1:49natural
- 1:49causes.
- 1:50And
- 1:50we're
- 1:51all
- 1:51still
- 1:51somewhat
- 1:52stunned
- 1:52and
- 1:52shocked
- 1:53by
- 1:53what
- 1:53happened
- 1:54there.
- 1:54I
- 1:54just
- 1:54want
- 1:55to
- 1:55say
- 1:55that
- 1:56I
- 1:56certainly
- 1:56value
- 1:57every
- 1:57day
- 1:58that
- 1:58I've
- 1:58known
- 1:59Mark.
- 1:59He
- 1:59made
- 1:59an
- 2:00incredible
- 2:00imprint
- 2:01on
- 2:01so
- 2:02many
- 2:02different
- 2:02things,
- 2:03but
- 2:03definitely
- 2:04all
- 2:04who
- 2:04knew
- 2:05him,
- 2:05his
- 2:05family,
- 2:05also
- 2:06everybody
- 2:06who's
- 2:06listened
- 2:07to
- 2:07him.
- 2:07And
- 2:07I
- 2:08have
- 2:08literally
- 2:09traveled
- 2:09around
- 2:09the
- 2:09world
- 2:10doing
- 2:10major
- 2:11corporate
- 2:12war
- 2:12games
- 2:12and
- 2:12other
- 2:13events
- 2:13with
- 2:13him,
- 2:14and
- 2:14he's
- 2:15touched
- 2:15a
- 2:15lot
- 2:15of
- 2:15people
- 2:16with
- 2:16his
- 2:17wisdom,
- 2:17his
- 2:18insight,
- 2:18his
- 2:18good
- 2:19nature,
- 2:19if
- 2:19you
- 2:19will.
- 2:20I
- 2:20don't,
- 2:20you
- 2:20know,
- 2:21there
- 2:21probably
- 2:21won't
- 2:21any,
- 2:22ever
- 2:22be
- 2:22anybody
- 2:23quite
- 2:23like
- 2:23Mark.
- 2:24Of
- 2:24course,
- 2:25as
- 2:25we've
- 2:25talked
- 2:25about
- 2:26on
- 2:26the
- 2:26show
- 2:26before,
- 2:27a
- 2:27former
- 2:27canadian
- 2:28navy
- 2:28officer,
- 2:28and
- 2:29certainly
- 2:29between
- 2:30him
- 2:30being
- 2:30Canadian
- 2:31Navy
- 2:31and
- 2:31my
- 2:32being
- 2:32a
- 2:32US
- 2:32Marine,
- 2:32we
- 2:33go
- 2:33back
- 2:33and
- 2:33forth
- 2:33on
- 2:34that,
- 2:34as
- 2:34you
- 2:34can
- 2:34well
- 2:34imagine,
- 2:35just
- 2:35a
- 2:36tremendous
- 2:36intellect
- 2:37and
- 2:38Harvard
- 2:38MBA,
- 2:39investment
- 2:39banker.
- 2:40That's
- 2:40why
- 2:40we've
- 2:41taken
- 2:41such
- 2:41a
- 2:41long
- 2:42period
- 2:42of
- 2:42time
- 2:42here.
- 2:42To
- 2:43really
- 2:43come
- 2:43back
- 2:44and
- 2:44get
- 2:44this
- 2:44going
- 2:44again
- 2:45is
- 2:45because
- 2:45we
- 2:45weren't
- 2:46quite
- 2:46sure
- 2:46where
- 2:46we're
- 2:47going
- 2:47to
- 2:47go
- 2:47with
- 2:47this.
- 2:47It's
- 2:48going
- 2:48to
- 2:48be
- 2:48a
- 2:48little
- 2:49bit
- 2:49different
- 2:49format.
- 2:50Anyway,
- 2:50I'm
- 2:50going
- 2:50to
- 2:50carry
- 2:51on
- 2:51in
- 2:51the
- 2:51spirit
- 2:52of
- 2:52certainly
- 2:52what
- 2:53Mark
- 2:53would
- 2:53hope,
- 2:54I
- 2:54assume
- 2:54he
- 2:55would
- 2:55hope
- 2:55I
- 2:55would
- 2:55want
- 2:55to
- 2:56keep
- 2:56doing.
- 2:56And
- 2:56we're
- 2:56going
- 2:57to
- 2:57talk
- 2:57about
- 2:57what's
- 2:58going
- 2:58on
- 2:58around
- 2:59the
- 2:59world.
- 2:59I'm
- 2:59going
- 2:59to
- 2:59talk
- 3:00about
- 3:00some
- 3:00of
- 3:00the
- 3:00strategic
- 3:00implications.
- 3:01I'm
- 3:02going
- 3:02to
- 3:02start
- 3:02probably
- 3:03where
- 3:03all
- 3:03the
- 3:03news
- 3:04starts
- 3:04today.
- 3:04I'm
- 3:04going
- 3:04to
- 3:05talk
- 3:05about
- 3:05the
- 3:05Middle
- 3:05east
- 3:06with
- 3:06Israel
- 3:07basically
- 3:08dealing
- 3:08with
- 3:09essentially
- 3:09a
- 3:09forefront
- 3:10war
- 3:10right
- 3:10now,
- 3:11and
- 3:11I'll
- 3:11talk
- 3:11about
- 3:11that.
- 3:11Then
- 3:12I'm
- 3:12going
- 3:12to
- 3:12turn
- 3:12to
- 3:12Europe,
- 3:13talk
- 3:13about
- 3:14Russia,
- 3:14Ukraine,
- 3:15talk
- 3:16a
- 3:16little
- 3:16bit
- 3:16about
- 3:16what's
- 3:16happening
- 3:17in
- 3:17Asia,
- 3:17the
- 3:17South
- 3:18China
- 3:18Sea,
- 3:19talk
- 3:19about
- 3:19some
- 3:20of
- 3:20the
- 3:20things
- 3:20in
- 3:20Africa,
- 3:21the
- 3:21western
- 3:21hemisphere.
- 3:22I'm
- 3:22gonna
- 3:23make
- 3:23a
- 3:23little
- 3:23reference
- 3:23to
- 3:24some
- 3:24of
- 3:24the
- 3:24gray
- 3:24zone
- 3:24activities
- 3:25going
- 3:25on
- 3:25out
- 3:25there,
- 3:26what
- 3:26was
- 3:26sometimes
- 3:26called
- 3:27hybrid
- 3:27warfare.
- 3:28Certainly
- 3:29the,
- 3:29the
- 3:29world
- 3:29of
- 3:30espionage
- 3:30falls
- 3:31into
- 3:31that.
- 3:31And,
- 3:31of
- 3:31course,
- 3:32terrorism
- 3:32throughout.
- 3:33I'll
- 3:33be
- 3:33talking
- 3:33about
- 3:33various
- 3:34macroeconomic
- 3:35trends,
- 3:35news
- 3:36implications
- 3:37of
- 3:37what's
- 3:38being
- 3:38done.
- 3:38So
- 3:38let's,
- 3:39let's
- 3:39go
- 3:39ahead
- 3:39and
- 3:40start
- 3:40talking
- 3:40about
- 3:40the
- 3:41Middle
- 3:41east.
- 3:41As
- 3:42some
- 3:42of
- 3:42you
- 3:42know,
- 3:42I,
- 3:43I
- 3:43appear
- 3:43regularly
- 3:44on
- 3:44Fox
- 3:45Live
- 3:45now.
- 3:46That's
- 3:46their
- 3:46digital
- 3:46streaming
- 3:47news
- 3:47network
- 3:48and
- 3:48also
- 3:48news
- 3:49nation
- 3:49and
- 3:50a
- 3:50variety
- 3:50of
- 3:51Fox
- 3:51News
- 3:51stations
- 3:52and
- 3:53other
- 3:53media,
- 3:54NPR
- 3:54and
- 3:54others
- 3:55on
- 3:55a
- 3:55regular
- 3:55basis.
- 3:56For
- 3:56those
- 3:56who
- 3:56have
- 3:57been
- 3:57following
- 3:57me
- 3:57on
- 3:57those,
- 3:57you
- 3:58know,
- 3:58I've
- 3:58been
- 3:58talking
- 3:58about
- 3:59what's
- 3:59happening
- 3:59in
- 3:59the
- 3:59Middle
- 3:59East
- 4:00a
- 4:00lot,
- 4:01and
- 4:01part
- 4:02of
- 4:02that
- 4:02is
- 4:03Israel
- 4:04versus,
- 4:04first
- 4:05it
- 4:05was
- 4:05Hamas,
- 4:06then
- 4:06one
- 4:07could
- 4:07say
- 4:07it
- 4:07was
- 4:07the
- 4:07Houthis
- 4:08and
- 4:08Hezbollah.
- 4:09But
- 4:09throughout
- 4:10all
- 4:10this
- 4:10has
- 4:10been
- 4:11Iran
- 4:11and,
- 4:12of
- 4:12course,
- 4:12Iran.
- 4:13When
- 4:13you
- 4:13talk
- 4:13about
- 4:14the
- 4:14axis
- 4:15of
- 4:15resistance,
- 4:16iranian
- 4:17backed
- 4:17proxies.
- 4:18Well,
- 4:18you
- 4:18can't
- 4:18have
- 4:18iranian
- 4:19backed
- 4:19proxies,
- 4:20unless,
- 4:20of
- 4:20course,
- 4:20you
- 4:20have
- 4:21Iran.
- 4:21Some
- 4:22of
- 4:22you
- 4:22know
- 4:22that
- 4:23Iran
- 4:23launched
- 4:24another
- 4:25onslaught
- 4:25of
- 4:26ballistic
- 4:26missiles
- 4:27into
- 4:27Israel,
- 4:28basically
- 4:28almost
- 4:29a
- 4:29replay
- 4:30of
- 4:30what
- 4:30they
- 4:30did
- 4:30last
- 4:31April.
- 4:31Fortunately,
- 4:32they
- 4:33were
- 4:33not
- 4:33very
- 4:34successful
- 4:34in
- 4:35getting
- 4:35through,
- 4:36and
- 4:36they
- 4:36didn't
- 4:36cause
- 4:37any
- 4:37israeli
- 4:38casualties
- 4:39per
- 4:39se,
- 4:39although
- 4:39there
- 4:40was
- 4:40a
- 4:40palestinian
- 4:41woman
- 4:41in
- 4:41the
- 4:41West
- 4:41bank
- 4:42that
- 4:42was
- 4:43tragically
- 4:43killed
- 4:44by
- 4:44falling
- 4:44debris
- 4:45from
- 4:46one
- 4:46of
- 4:46the
- 4:46ballistic
- 4:46missiles.
- 4:47But
- 4:47the
- 4:47Iron
- 4:48Dome
- 4:48did
- 4:48what
- 4:49it
- 4:49was
- 4:49supposed
- 4:49to
- 4:49do,
- 4:50albeit
- 4:50with
- 4:50that
- 4:51said,
- 4:51as
- 4:51more
- 4:51information
- 4:52comes
- 4:52out,
- 4:52we
- 4:52realize
- 4:53that
- 4:53Iran
- 4:54had
- 4:54changed
- 4:54their
- 4:54ballistic
- 4:55missile
- 4:55tactics
- 4:56and
- 4:56that
- 4:56actually
- 4:57more
- 4:57missiles
- 4:57were
- 4:57able
- 4:58to
- 4:58get
- 4:58further
- 4:58and
- 4:58got
- 4:59through
- 4:59to
- 4:59some
- 4:59places
- 5:00than
- 5:00originally
- 5:01thought.
- 5:01But
- 5:01fortunately,
- 5:02there
- 5:02was
- 5:02no
- 5:02israeli
- 5:03loss
- 5:03of
- 5:03life,
- 5:04nor
- 5:04was
- 5:04there
- 5:04any
- 5:05significant
- 5:06damage
- 5:06to
- 5:06buildings
- 5:07or
- 5:07structures,
- 5:08but
- 5:08there
- 5:08were
- 5:08some
- 5:08warheads
- 5:09that
- 5:09actually
- 5:09did
- 5:10get
- 5:10through.
- 5:10Why
- 5:11is
- 5:11this
- 5:11big?
- 5:11Well,
- 5:12what's
- 5:12big
- 5:12now
- 5:13is
- 5:13that,
- 5:13of
- 5:13course,
- 5:14this
- 5:14is
- 5:14basically
- 5:15uncorked,
- 5:16if
- 5:16you
- 5:16will,
- 5:17a
- 5:17potential
- 5:18escalation
- 5:18of
- 5:19events.
- 5:19Israel
- 5:20certainly
- 5:20has
- 5:21the
- 5:21right,
- 5:21if
- 5:21nothing
- 5:22the
- 5:22obligation
- 5:23to
- 5:23respond
- 5:24to
- 5:24what
- 5:24just
- 5:25happened.
- 5:25They
- 5:26did
- 5:26respond
- 5:26to
- 5:26what
- 5:27happened
- 5:27last
- 5:27April,
- 5:27and
- 5:28they
- 5:28did
- 5:28it
- 5:28in
- 5:28a
- 5:29very
- 5:29unusual
- 5:29way.
- 5:30They
- 5:30did
- 5:31a
- 5:31very
- 5:31limited
- 5:31strike
- 5:32on
- 5:32a
- 5:32radar
- 5:32facility
- 5:33in
- 5:33a
- 5:33very
- 5:34sensitive
- 5:34area
- 5:35in
- 5:35Iran,
- 5:35an
- 5:36area
- 5:36that
- 5:36the
- 5:36Iranians
- 5:37probably
- 5:37thought
- 5:37was
- 5:38impervious
- 5:38to
- 5:39airstrike.
- 5:39And
- 5:40it
- 5:40was
- 5:40to
- 5:40make
- 5:40a
- 5:40statement.
- 5:41And
- 5:41the
- 5:41statement
- 5:42to
- 5:42Iran
- 5:42was,
- 5:43we
- 5:43can
- 5:43get
- 5:43into
- 5:43these
- 5:44places
- 5:44and
- 5:44we
- 5:45can
- 5:45strike
- 5:45you
- 5:45where
- 5:45you
- 5:46think
- 5:46you
- 5:46can't
- 5:46be
- 5:46struck.
- 5:47And
- 5:47obviously,
- 5:48that
- 5:48message
- 5:48has
- 5:49been
- 5:49lost
- 5:49on,
- 5:50you
- 5:50know,
- 5:50Ayatollah
- 5:51Khamenei,
- 5:51the
- 5:52supreme
- 5:52leader
- 5:52over
- 5:52there,
- 5:53although
- 5:53he
- 5:54did
- 5:54obviously
- 5:54listen
- 5:55to
- 5:55a
- 5:55little
- 5:55bit
- 5:55of
- 5:55it
- 5:55because
- 5:56shortly
- 5:56after
- 5:57the
- 5:57strike
- 5:58took
- 5:58place,
- 5:59he
- 5:59immediately
- 5:59went
- 5:59into
- 6:00hiding.
- 6:00So
- 6:01obviously,
- 6:01he
- 6:01did
- 6:02know
- 6:02that
- 6:02Israel
- 6:02had
- 6:03some
- 6:03pretty
- 6:03long
- 6:03arm,
- 6:04if
- 6:04you
- 6:04will,
- 6:05that
- 6:05could
- 6:05strike.
- 6:05And,
- 6:05of
- 6:06course,
- 6:06this
- 6:06is
- 6:06after
- 6:07Hasan
- 6:07Nasrallah,
- 6:08the
- 6:08head
- 6:08of
- 6:09Hezbollah,
- 6:09had
- 6:10been
- 6:10killed,
- 6:11assassinated,
- 6:11if
- 6:12you
- 6:12will,
- 6:12in
- 6:12a
- 6:12massive
- 6:13strike
- 6:13in
- 6:14southern
- 6:14Beirut.
- 6:15There's
- 6:15been
- 6:15a
- 6:16number
- 6:16of
- 6:16senior
- 6:16leadership
- 6:17figures
- 6:17in
- 6:18Hezbollah
- 6:18and
- 6:19Hamas
- 6:19taken
- 6:19out
- 6:20on
- 6:20a
- 6:20regular
- 6:20basis.
- 6:21It
- 6:21looks
- 6:21like
- 6:22Nasrallah's
- 6:22heir
- 6:23apparent
- 6:23may
- 6:23have
- 6:23just
- 6:24been
- 6:24taken
- 6:24out
- 6:25in
- 6:25a
- 6:25strike.
- 6:26So
- 6:27let's
- 6:27just
- 6:27say
- 6:27Israel
- 6:28has
- 6:28some
- 6:28capabilities
- 6:29in
- 6:29that
- 6:29regard.
- 6:30Right
- 6:30now.
- 6:31The
- 6:31question
- 6:31is,
- 6:32what
- 6:32is
- 6:32Israel
- 6:33going
- 6:33to
- 6:33do?
- 6:33They
- 6:34could
- 6:34go
- 6:34after
- 6:34the
- 6:34nuclear
- 6:35facilities
- 6:35in
- 6:35Iran.
- 6:36That,
- 6:36of
- 6:37course,
- 6:37could
- 6:37cause
- 6:37a
- 6:38major
- 6:38escalation
- 6:39in
- 6:40the
- 6:40conflict
- 6:40beyond
- 6:41where
- 6:41it
- 6:41is
- 6:41now.
- 6:41Although
- 6:42I
- 6:42would
- 6:42point
- 6:42out,
- 6:43because
- 6:43of
- 6:44how
- 6:44Iran
- 6:45has
- 6:45its
- 6:45nuclear
- 6:45facilities
- 6:46arrayed,
- 6:47they
- 6:47would
- 6:47probably
- 6:48have
- 6:48to
- 6:48have
- 6:49a
- 6:49rather
- 6:49protracted
- 6:50series
- 6:50of
- 6:50strikes.
- 6:51And
- 6:51more
- 6:51importantly,
- 6:52they
- 6:52would
- 6:52have
- 6:52to
- 6:52do
- 6:52what's
- 6:53called
- 6:53a
- 6:53destruction
- 6:54of
- 6:54enemy
- 6:55air
- 6:55defense
- 6:56or
- 6:56dead.
- 6:57Dead
- 6:58is
- 6:58the
- 6:58name
- 6:58of
- 6:59that
- 6:59particular
- 7:00tactical
- 7:00evolution.
- 7:01And
- 7:01so
- 7:01they
- 7:01would
- 7:02basically,
- 7:02it
- 7:02wouldn't
- 7:03be
- 7:03just
- 7:03suppressing,
- 7:03but
- 7:04it
- 7:04would
- 7:04be
- 7:04actually
- 7:04the
- 7:04destruction
- 7:05of
- 7:05their
- 7:05air
- 7:05defenses,
- 7:06which
- 7:06would
- 7:06provide
- 7:07a
- 7:07permissive
- 7:08strike
- 7:08zone,
- 7:08if
- 7:09you
- 7:09will,
- 7:09in
- 7:09a
- 7:09number
- 7:10of
- 7:10areas
- 7:10which
- 7:10would
- 7:11allow
- 7:11multiple
- 7:12strikes,
- 7:12multiple
- 7:13sorties
- 7:13to
- 7:13come
- 7:13in
- 7:13to
- 7:13take
- 7:14out
- 7:14a
- 7:14lot
- 7:14of
- 7:14different
- 7:14things.
- 7:15And,
- 7:15of
- 7:15course,
- 7:15it
- 7:16would
- 7:16actually
- 7:16create
- 7:17a
- 7:17situation
- 7:18there
- 7:18where
- 7:19Iran
- 7:20would
- 7:20feel
- 7:20extremely
- 7:20vulnerable,
- 7:21and
- 7:21that
- 7:22could
- 7:22have
- 7:22potential
- 7:22political
- 7:23implications
- 7:24in
- 7:24Iran.
- 7:24And
- 7:25I
- 7:25should
- 7:25also
- 7:25mention
- 7:25that
- 7:25Netanyahu
- 7:26has
- 7:27reached
- 7:27out
- 7:28to
- 7:28the
- 7:28iranian
- 7:28people
- 7:29in
- 7:29a
- 7:29recent
- 7:29broadcast
- 7:30trying
- 7:31to
- 7:31separate
- 7:32their
- 7:32interests
- 7:32from
- 7:32the
- 7:32interests
- 7:33of
- 7:33the
- 7:34theocratic,
- 7:34autocratic
- 7:35regime.
- 7:36And
- 7:36that
- 7:36was
- 7:37a
- 7:37rather
- 7:37interesting,
- 7:38if
- 7:38you
- 7:38will,
- 7:38strategic
- 7:39communication
- 7:39that
- 7:40took
- 7:40place.
- 7:40So
- 7:41we'll
- 7:41see
- 7:41if
- 7:41that
- 7:41happens.
- 7:42I
- 7:42will
- 7:42say
- 7:42one
- 7:42thing,
- 7:43though,
- 7:43that
- 7:44when
- 7:45Israel
- 7:45had
- 7:46retaliated
- 7:47against
- 7:47a
- 7:47strike
- 7:48that
- 7:48came
- 7:48from
- 7:48the
- 7:49houthi
- 7:49rebels
- 7:50down
- 7:50in
- 7:50Yemen,
- 7:51they
- 7:51went
- 7:51after
- 7:52not
- 7:53just
- 7:53where
- 7:53the
- 7:53missiles
- 7:54were
- 7:54launched
- 7:55from,
- 7:55but
- 7:55they
- 7:55went
- 7:55after
- 7:56a
- 7:56key
- 7:57port,
- 7:57a
- 7:58couple
- 7:58of
- 7:58key
- 7:58ports,
- 7:59and
- 7:59they
- 7:59went
- 7:59after
- 8:00the
- 8:00way
- 8:00that
- 8:00they
- 8:01get
- 8:01their
- 8:02armaments
- 8:02in
- 8:02from
- 8:03Iran.
- 8:03They
- 8:03went
- 8:03after
- 8:04some
- 8:04of
- 8:04the
- 8:04critical
- 8:05infrastructure,
- 8:06the
- 8:06supply
- 8:07chain,
- 8:07if
- 8:07you
- 8:07will,
- 8:08in
- 8:08terms
- 8:08of
- 8:08shutting
- 8:09that
- 8:09down
- 8:10to
- 8:10some
- 8:10degree.
- 8:10And
- 8:11so
- 8:11that's
- 8:11something
- 8:11that's
- 8:11being
- 8:12discussed
- 8:12with
- 8:12Iran
- 8:13and
- 8:13the
- 8:13implication
- 8:13there
- 8:14is
- 8:14they
- 8:14might
- 8:14look
- 8:14at
- 8:15reports,
- 8:15they
- 8:15might
- 8:15also
- 8:16look
- 8:16at
- 8:16oil.
- 8:17And
- 8:17President
- 8:17Biden
- 8:18at
- 8:18first
- 8:19had
- 8:19talked
- 8:19about
- 8:19the
- 8:19possibility
- 8:20of
- 8:20Iran
- 8:20striking
- 8:21oil,
- 8:21and
- 8:22that
- 8:22would
- 8:22be
- 8:22things
- 8:22like
- 8:23refineries
- 8:23and
- 8:24other
- 8:24oil
- 8:24facilities.
- 8:25The
- 8:25market
- 8:26reacted
- 8:26with
- 8:26a
- 8:26big
- 8:26jump
- 8:27in
- 8:27oil
- 8:27prices.
- 8:27And
- 8:28so
- 8:28he
- 8:28just
- 8:28came
- 8:29out
- 8:29and
- 8:29said,
- 8:29no,
- 8:30maybe
- 8:30they
- 8:30shouldn't
- 8:30strike
- 8:30the
- 8:31oil
- 8:31because
- 8:31he
- 8:32realized
- 8:32what
- 8:32he
- 8:32did,
- 8:32causing
- 8:33a
- 8:33price
- 8:33shock.
- 8:33But
- 8:34interestingly,
- 8:34there's
- 8:35a
- 8:35lot
- 8:35of
- 8:35things
- 8:35there
- 8:35that
- 8:36have
- 8:36some
- 8:36fairly
- 8:37significant
- 8:37implications.
- 8:38And
- 8:38of
- 8:38course,
- 8:39the
- 8:39other
- 8:39side
- 8:40is
- 8:40depending
- 8:40on
- 8:40what's
- 8:40done
- 8:41there,
- 8:41could
- 8:41turn
- 8:42the
- 8:42persian
- 8:43gulf
- 8:43into
- 8:44a
- 8:44body
- 8:44of
- 8:45water
- 8:45with
- 8:45the
- 8:45same
- 8:45problems
- 8:46that
- 8:46we
- 8:47are
- 8:47seeing,
- 8:47say,
- 8:48around
- 8:48the
- 8:48Red
- 8:49Sea,
- 8:49Gulf
- 8:49of
- 8:50Aden,
- 8:50Babelmandeb
- 8:51Strait,
- 8:51with
- 8:51the
- 8:52Houthis,
- 8:52only
- 8:52more
- 8:52so.
- 8:53And
- 8:53so
- 8:53there,
- 8:54there
- 8:54are
- 8:54major
- 8:55macroeconomic
- 8:56implications,
- 8:57supply
- 8:57chain
- 8:57implications,
- 8:58potential
- 8:58price
- 8:59shock
- 8:59implications,
- 9:00particularly
- 9:00with
- 9:00oil
- 9:01and
- 9:01gas,
- 9:02depending
- 9:02on
- 9:02what
- 9:02happens
- 9:03next.
- 9:03And
- 9:03that's
- 9:03something
- 9:04that
- 9:04we're
- 9:04going
- 9:04to
- 9:04have
- 9:04to
- 9:04be
- 9:05watching
- 9:05very,
- 9:05very
- 9:06closely.
- 9:06But
- 9:06the
- 9:07market
- 9:07is
- 9:07reacting
- 9:08to
- 9:08whatever's
- 9:09done
- 9:09there
- 9:09in
- 9:09a
- 9:10major
- 9:10way.
- 9:10So
- 9:11that's
- 9:11some
- 9:11of
- 9:11the
- 9:11stuff
- 9:11on
- 9:12the
- 9:12Middle
- 9:12east.
- 9:12Obviously,
- 9:13I
- 9:14shouldn't
- 9:14ignore
- 9:15what's
- 9:15happening
- 9:15in
- 9:15Gaza
- 9:16with
- 9:16Hamas,
- 9:17number
- 9:17of
- 9:17leaders
- 9:18taken
- 9:18out.
- 9:18And
- 9:19interestingly,
- 9:19it's
- 9:20Yaya
- 9:20Sinwar,
- 9:21the
- 9:22du
- 9:22jour
- 9:22and
- 9:23certainly
- 9:23de
- 9:23facto
- 9:24head
- 9:24of
- 9:24Hamas,
- 9:25who
- 9:25is
- 9:25in
- 9:25hiding
- 9:26somewhere,
- 9:26probably
- 9:26in
- 9:27some
- 9:27tunnel,
- 9:28had
- 9:28been
- 9:28out
- 9:28of
- 9:28contact
- 9:29for
- 9:29a
- 9:29long
- 9:29period
- 9:29of
- 9:30time.
- 9:30In
- 9:30fact,
- 9:30looking
- 9:31at
- 9:31some
- 9:31of
- 9:31the
- 9:31open
- 9:32source
- 9:32reports
- 9:33out
- 9:33there,
- 9:33it
- 9:34is
- 9:34still
- 9:34not
- 9:34clear
- 9:34to
- 9:35me
- 9:35if
- 9:35anybody
- 9:36has
- 9:36actually
- 9:36communicated
- 9:37with
- 9:37him
- 9:38in
- 9:38weeks.
- 9:38There's
- 9:39a
- 9:39lot
- 9:39of
- 9:39reports
- 9:39that
- 9:39he
- 9:39is
- 9:40moving
- 9:40around,
- 9:41that
- 9:41he's
- 9:41relying
- 9:42on
- 9:42couriers.
- 9:43But
- 9:43there's
- 9:43still
- 9:43this
- 9:44persistent
- 9:44report
- 9:45that
- 9:45there
- 9:46has
- 9:46been
- 9:46no
- 9:46communication
- 9:47with
- 9:47him,
- 9:47certainly
- 9:48by
- 9:48Hamas,
- 9:48and
- 9:49say
- 9:49Doha
- 9:50in
- 9:50Qatar
- 9:51for
- 9:51some
- 9:51time.
- 9:52So
- 9:52his
- 9:53status
- 9:53is
- 9:53unclear.
- 9:54And
- 9:55there
- 9:55may
- 9:55be
- 9:56deeper
- 9:56problems
- 9:57with
- 9:57the
- 9:57command
- 9:58structure
- 9:58within
- 9:59Hamas
- 9:59than
- 10:00are
- 10:01being
- 10:01publicly
- 10:02appreciated.
- 10:02So
- 10:02that's
- 10:03a
- 10:03major
- 10:04issue
- 10:04there.
- 10:04Now
- 10:05here's
- 10:05an
- 10:05interesting
- 10:06thing
- 10:06that
- 10:07a
- 10:07lot
- 10:07of
- 10:07folks
- 10:08may
- 10:08have
- 10:08missed
- 10:09is
- 10:09what
- 10:10is
- 10:10the
- 10:10situation
- 10:11with
- 10:11Turkey?
- 10:12As
- 10:12you
- 10:12know,
- 10:12Turkey
- 10:13has
- 10:13been
- 10:13very
- 10:13critical
- 10:14of
- 10:14how
- 10:15Israel
- 10:15has
- 10:15gone
- 10:16into
- 10:16Gaza.
- 10:16There's
- 10:17been
- 10:17tremendous
- 10:18strain
- 10:18certainly
- 10:19in
- 10:19the
- 10:20rhetoric
- 10:20between
- 10:20Turkey
- 10:21and
- 10:21Israel.
- 10:22Yet
- 10:22Turkey
- 10:23is
- 10:23a
- 10:23regional
- 10:24player.
- 10:24Their
- 10:25regional
- 10:25player
- 10:26is
- 10:26aligned
- 10:27more
- 10:27or
- 10:27less
- 10:27on
- 10:27the
- 10:27sunni
- 10:28side
- 10:28of
- 10:29Islam,
- 10:29and
- 10:30they
- 10:30see
- 10:31Iran
- 10:31as
- 10:32a
- 10:32strategic
- 10:32competitor.
- 10:33Yet
- 10:33at
- 10:34the
- 10:34same
- 10:34time,
- 10:35they
- 10:35have
- 10:35a
- 10:35lot
- 10:35of
- 10:36affinity
- 10:36and
- 10:36support
- 10:37for
- 10:37the
- 10:37Palestinians.
- 10:38So
- 10:38there's
- 10:39this
- 10:39rather
- 10:39unusual
- 10:40situation
- 10:41where
- 10:42they
- 10:42ostensibly
- 10:43support
- 10:44the
- 10:44palestinian
- 10:44cause,
- 10:45the
- 10:45concept
- 10:46of
- 10:46palestinian
- 10:46statehood.
- 10:47What
- 10:47they
- 10:47see
- 10:48is
- 10:48perhaps
- 10:49Israel
- 10:49using
- 10:50tactics,
- 10:51operations,
- 10:51weapons
- 10:52in
- 10:52an
- 10:52overbearing
- 10:53way
- 10:53in
- 10:54the
- 10:54Gaza
- 10:54Strip
- 10:54and
- 10:55elsewhere.
- 10:55On
- 10:55the
- 10:56other
- 10:56hand,
- 10:56they
- 10:57also
- 10:57see
- 10:57Israel
- 10:58providing
- 10:58a
- 10:59strategic
- 10:59check,
- 10:59if
- 11:00you
- 11:00will,
- 11:00against
- 11:01Iran.
- 11:02And
- 11:02so
- 11:02they
- 11:03will
- 11:03certainly
- 11:04call
- 11:04for
- 11:04ceasefire,
- 11:05certainly
- 11:05call
- 11:06for
- 11:06a
- 11:06number
- 11:06of
- 11:06things,
- 11:07but
- 11:07they
- 11:08have
- 11:08to
- 11:08balance
- 11:08that
- 11:08with,
- 11:09they
- 11:09would
- 11:09certainly
- 11:10like
- 11:10to
- 11:10see
- 11:11Iran
- 11:11have
- 11:12its
- 11:12power
- 11:12and
- 11:12influence
- 11:13in
- 11:13the
- 11:13region
- 11:13vastly
- 11:14diminished,
- 11:15and
- 11:15Israel
- 11:16is
- 11:16providing
- 11:16a
- 11:16way
- 11:17to
- 11:17do
- 11:17that
- 11:17right
- 11:17now.
- 11:18So
- 11:18rather
- 11:19interesting,
- 11:19and
- 11:19I
- 11:19bring
- 11:20that
- 11:20up
- 11:20because
- 11:21Turkey
- 11:21is
- 11:22a
- 11:22NATO
- 11:23country.
- 11:23It
- 11:24is
- 11:24the
- 11:24only
- 11:25NATO
- 11:25country
- 11:26that
- 11:26really
- 11:27is,
- 11:27has
- 11:28a
- 11:28footprint
- 11:28in
- 11:28the
- 11:29Middle
- 11:29east.
- 11:29And
- 11:29the
- 11:29way
- 11:29it
- 11:30does,
- 11:30you
- 11:30know,
- 11:30certainly
- 11:31that's
- 11:31always
- 11:31been
- 11:32the
- 11:32crossroads.
- 11:33That's
- 11:33where
- 11:33Europe
- 11:33and
- 11:33Asia
- 11:34meets.
- 11:34So
- 11:34it
- 11:35is
- 11:35a
- 11:35rather
- 11:35interesting
- 11:36situation
- 11:37with
- 11:37Turkey,
- 11:37and
- 11:38they've
- 11:38been
- 11:39absolutely
- 11:40instrumental
- 11:40in
- 11:41dealing
- 11:41with
- 11:41some
- 11:41of
- 11:41the
- 11:42counter
- 11:42mine
- 11:43operations,
- 11:44basically
- 11:44helping
- 11:44to
- 11:45put
- 11:45a
- 11:45check
- 11:45on
- 11:46the
- 11:46russian
- 11:46navy
- 11:47and
- 11:47the
- 11:47Black
- 11:47Sea
- 11:48and
- 11:48elsewhere.
- 11:49And,
- 11:49of
- 11:49course,
- 11:49Russia
- 11:50is
- 11:50more
- 11:50or
- 11:50less
- 11:51aligned
- 11:51with
- 11:52Iran.
- 11:53They
- 11:53have
- 11:53a
- 11:53very
- 11:53close
- 11:54strategic
- 11:54relationship
- 11:55right
- 11:55now.
- 11:55So
- 11:55it
- 11:56is
- 11:56interesting
- 11:56to
- 11:56see
- 11:57how
- 11:57Erdogan
- 11:58and
- 11:58Turkey
- 11:59are
- 11:59dealing
- 11:59with
- 11:59this
- 12:00situation
- 12:00as
- 12:01it
- 12:01unfolds.
- 12:01And
- 12:02obviously,
- 12:03there's
- 12:03a
- 12:03fear
- 12:04of
- 12:04bleed
- 12:04over
- 12:04this
- 12:04conflict
- 12:05that
- 12:05it
- 12:06could
- 12:06cause
- 12:06more
- 12:06problems
- 12:07throughout
- 12:07the
- 12:07Middle
- 12:07east.
- 12:07But,
- 12:08you
- 12:08know,
- 12:08I
- 12:08have
- 12:08to
- 12:09tell
- 12:09you,
- 12:09having
- 12:10been
- 12:10talking
- 12:10about
- 12:10this
- 12:11since
- 12:11it
- 12:11began,
- 12:11the
- 12:12focus
- 12:12had
- 12:12always
- 12:13been
- 12:13on
- 12:14talking
- 12:15about
- 12:15possible
- 12:16expansion
- 12:16and
- 12:16stuff.
- 12:17One
- 12:17thing
- 12:17we
- 12:17may
- 12:18see,
- 12:18though,
- 12:18is
- 12:18the
- 12:19possibility
- 12:19of
- 12:19Hezbollah
- 12:20doing
- 12:20something
- 12:21here.
- 12:21They
- 12:21have
- 12:21been
- 12:22operating
- 12:22certainly
- 12:22in
- 12:22the
- 12:23western
- 12:23hemisphere
- 12:23of
- 12:23Europe,
- 12:23all
- 12:24over
- 12:24the
- 12:24world
- 12:24for
- 12:24quite
- 12:24some
- 12:25time.
- 12:25So
- 12:25we
- 12:26may
- 12:26see
- 12:26something
- 12:26akin
- 12:27to
- 12:27that.
- 12:27And
- 12:28everybody
- 12:28is
- 12:28leaning
- 12:29forward
- 12:29on
- 12:29the
- 12:29potential
- 12:30threat
- 12:30of
- 12:30terrorism
- 12:30that
- 12:31could
- 12:31come
- 12:31out
- 12:31of
- 12:31this.
- 12:31So
- 12:32let's
- 12:32talk
- 12:32about
- 12:33what's
- 12:33going
- 12:33on
- 12:33in
- 12:33Europe.
- 12:34Obviously,
- 12:34President
- 12:35Zelensky
- 12:35went
- 12:35and
- 12:35spoke
- 12:36before
- 12:36the
- 12:36United
- 12:36nations.
- 12:37He's
- 12:37got
- 12:37a
- 12:38victory
- 12:38plan
- 12:39that
- 12:39he's
- 12:39been
- 12:39pushing
- 12:39out
- 12:40there.
- 12:40A
- 12:40lot
- 12:40of
- 12:40the
- 12:40victory
- 12:41plan
- 12:41seems
- 12:41to
- 12:41be
- 12:42centered
- 12:42on
- 12:42getting
- 12:43permission
- 12:43to
- 12:43use
- 12:44western
- 12:44supplied
- 12:44long
- 12:45range
- 12:45weapons,
- 12:46like
- 12:46longer
- 12:46range
- 12:47attack
- 12:47of
- 12:47missiles
- 12:48and
- 12:48storm
- 12:48shadow
- 12:49cruise
- 12:49missiles
- 12:50from
- 12:50the
- 12:50west,
- 12:50to
- 12:50hit
- 12:51very
- 12:51much
- 12:51deep
- 12:52inside
- 12:52russian
- 12:52territory.
- 12:53That
- 12:54permission
- 12:54has
- 12:54not
- 12:55been
- 12:55granted
- 12:56yet.
- 12:57I
- 12:57don't
- 12:57know
- 12:57when
- 12:58that
- 12:58will
- 12:58be.
- 12:58There
- 12:59is
- 12:59certainly
- 12:59concerns
- 13:00in
- 13:00the
- 13:00White
- 13:00House
- 13:01that
- 13:01this
- 13:01could
- 13:02escalate,
- 13:02and
- 13:03the
- 13:03concern
- 13:03is
- 13:04that
- 13:04Russia
- 13:04might
- 13:05feel
- 13:05at
- 13:05some
- 13:05point
- 13:06the
- 13:06necessity
- 13:07to
- 13:07uncork
- 13:08the
- 13:09nuclear
- 13:09genie,
- 13:10or
- 13:10at
- 13:10least
- 13:10the
- 13:10tactical
- 13:11nuclear
- 13:11genie,
- 13:12whether
- 13:12that
- 13:13be
- 13:13a
- 13:13demonstration
- 13:14explosion
- 13:15or
- 13:16to
- 13:16start
- 13:16doing
- 13:17underground
- 13:17testing
- 13:18of
- 13:18nuclear
- 13:18weapons
- 13:19or
- 13:19whatever
- 13:19it
- 13:19is,
- 13:20to
- 13:20basically
- 13:21escalate
- 13:21this
- 13:21matter
- 13:21more.
- 13:22Although
- 13:22if
- 13:22they
- 13:23go
- 13:23that
- 13:23direction,
- 13:24they're
- 13:24going
- 13:24to
- 13:24cause
- 13:24some
- 13:25real
- 13:25tension
- 13:26and
- 13:26problems
- 13:26with
- 13:27China,
- 13:27and
- 13:27they're
- 13:28going
- 13:28to
- 13:28cause
- 13:28some
- 13:28tension
- 13:29to
- 13:29China
- 13:29with
- 13:29what
- 13:29we
- 13:30call
- 13:30the
- 13:30global
- 13:30south.
- 13:31They
- 13:31certainly
- 13:31don't
- 13:31want
- 13:31to
- 13:32see
- 13:32something
- 13:32like
- 13:32that
- 13:32happen,
- 13:33and
- 13:33it
- 13:33could
- 13:33really
- 13:34set
- 13:34back
- 13:34their
- 13:34strategic
- 13:35position
- 13:35a
- 13:35lot
- 13:35of
- 13:35different
- 13:36ways.
- 13:37So
- 13:37that
- 13:37is
- 13:38something
- 13:38that
- 13:38is
- 13:39currently
- 13:39ongoing.
- 13:40Now,
- 13:40Russia
- 13:40is
- 13:40making
- 13:41modest
- 13:41gains
- 13:42in
- 13:42the
- 13:42eastern
- 13:43front.
- 13:43That
- 13:43seems
- 13:44to
- 13:44be
- 13:44slowing
- 13:44down
- 13:44a
- 13:45bit.
- 13:45And
- 13:45keep
- 13:45in
- 13:45mind
- 13:46winter
- 13:46is
- 13:46coming,
- 13:47so
- 13:47that
- 13:47may
- 13:47slow
- 13:47down
- 13:48more.
- 13:48Also,
- 13:49Ukraine
- 13:49got
- 13:50some
- 13:50very
- 13:51good
- 13:51drone
- 13:51strikes,
- 13:52caused
- 13:52some
- 13:52major
- 13:53damage
- 13:54at
- 13:54russian
- 13:54arms
- 13:55depots,
- 13:55and
- 13:56literally,
- 13:57from
- 13:57what
- 13:57they
- 13:57could
- 13:57figure
- 13:58out,
- 13:58took
- 13:58out
- 13:59a
- 13:59couple
- 13:59of
- 13:59months
- 14:00worth
- 14:00of
- 14:00artillery
- 14:01shells,
- 14:02much
- 14:02of
- 14:02that
- 14:02supplied
- 14:03by
- 14:03North
- 14:03Korea.
- 14:04And
- 14:04so
- 14:04everyone's
- 14:05kind
- 14:05of
- 14:05waiting
- 14:05to
- 14:06see
- 14:06if
- 14:06the
- 14:07artillery
- 14:07tempo,
- 14:08if
- 14:08you
- 14:08will,
- 14:09the
- 14:09usage
- 14:10rate
- 14:10of
- 14:10artillery
- 14:10shells
- 14:11by
- 14:11the
- 14:11Russians
- 14:12starts
- 14:12to
- 14:12diminish
- 14:13going
- 14:13forward.
- 14:14And
- 14:14that's
- 14:14a
- 14:14very
- 14:14significant
- 14:15possibility.
- 14:16If
- 14:16that
- 14:16happens,
- 14:16the
- 14:17Russians
- 14:17are
- 14:17going
- 14:17to
- 14:17have
- 14:17some
- 14:18serious
- 14:18problems.
- 14:19Of
- 14:19course,
- 14:19the
- 14:19Ukrainians
- 14:20went
- 14:20up
- 14:20into
- 14:21Kursk
- 14:22Oblast,
- 14:23which
- 14:23is
- 14:23a
- 14:23russian
- 14:24province,
- 14:24if
- 14:24you
- 14:24will,
- 14:25north
- 14:25the
- 14:25ukrainian
- 14:26border,
- 14:26and
- 14:26they
- 14:27seem
- 14:27to
- 14:27be
- 14:27pretty
- 14:27much
- 14:27holding
- 14:28their
- 14:28own
- 14:28there.
- 14:28The
- 14:28Russians
- 14:28have
- 14:29tried
- 14:29counterattacks.
- 14:30There's
- 14:30some
- 14:30areas
- 14:31where
- 14:31the
- 14:31Russians
- 14:31made
- 14:31some
- 14:32progress,
- 14:32but
- 14:32those
- 14:32are
- 14:33areas
- 14:33where
- 14:33I
- 14:33don't
- 14:33think
- 14:33the
- 14:33Ukrainians
- 14:34had
- 14:34any
- 14:34intention
- 14:34of
- 14:35holding
- 14:35those
- 14:36areas.
- 14:36They
- 14:36simply
- 14:36traded
- 14:37terrain
- 14:37in
- 14:37order
- 14:37to
- 14:38inflict
- 14:38a
- 14:38lot
- 14:38of
- 14:38casualties,
- 14:39a
- 14:39lot
- 14:39of
- 14:39attrition
- 14:40on
- 14:40the
- 14:40russian
- 14:40forces.
- 14:41And
- 14:41in
- 14:41one
- 14:41famous
- 14:42case,
- 14:42the
- 14:42Russians
- 14:42actually
- 14:43had
- 14:43one
- 14:43of
- 14:43their
- 14:44own
- 14:44armored
- 14:45company,
- 14:45plus
- 14:46battalion
- 14:46sized
- 14:46units
- 14:47rolled
- 14:48into
- 14:48and
- 14:48got
- 14:49caught
- 14:49in
- 14:49an
- 14:50old
- 14:50russian
- 14:51obstacle
- 14:51belt,
- 14:51one
- 14:52that
- 14:52they
- 14:52had
- 14:52built
- 14:52before
- 14:53the
- 14:53Ukrainians
- 14:54went
- 14:54up
- 14:54to
- 14:54Kursk
- 14:55that
- 14:55was
- 14:55supposed
- 14:55to
- 14:55keep
- 14:56the
- 14:56Ukrainians
- 14:56out.
- 14:57Didn't
- 14:57do
- 14:57that.
- 14:57But
- 14:57the
- 14:58Russians
- 14:58attacked
- 14:58and
- 14:58went
- 14:59into
- 14:59their
- 14:59own
- 14:59obstacle
- 14:59belt,
- 15:00got
- 15:00stuck,
- 15:01and
- 15:01then
- 15:01the
- 15:01Ukrainians
- 15:01were
- 15:02able
- 15:02to
- 15:02cause
- 15:03heavy
- 15:03attrition
- 15:03on
- 15:03their
- 15:03forces.
- 15:04So
- 15:04very
- 15:05interesting.
- 15:05What's
- 15:05going
- 15:05on
- 15:06with
- 15:06that
- 15:06across
- 15:07the
- 15:07board.
- 15:07And.
- 15:08And
- 15:08then,
- 15:08of
- 15:08course,
- 15:08we're
- 15:09also
- 15:09seeing
- 15:09some
- 15:09things
- 15:10happening
- 15:10in
- 15:10Europe.
- 15:11Hungary.
- 15:11The
- 15:12political
- 15:12director
- 15:13under
- 15:13Orban
- 15:14came
- 15:14out
- 15:14and
- 15:14said
- 15:15something
- 15:15rather
- 15:15interesting
- 15:16that
- 15:16he
- 15:16was
- 15:16talking
- 15:17about.
- 15:17Basically
- 15:18said,
- 15:18you
- 15:18know,
- 15:19Ukraine
- 15:20got
- 15:20into
- 15:20this
- 15:20problem
- 15:21because
- 15:21they
- 15:22didn't
- 15:22let
- 15:22the
- 15:22Russians
- 15:22basically
- 15:23invade
- 15:23and
- 15:23take
- 15:23over
- 15:24their
- 15:24country.
- 15:24And
- 15:24he
- 15:25was
- 15:25saying
- 15:25that
- 15:25things
- 15:25probably
- 15:26would
- 15:26have
- 15:26been
- 15:26better
- 15:26in
- 15:26Hungary
- 15:27if
- 15:27they
- 15:27hadn't
- 15:28opposed
- 15:28the
- 15:29russian
- 15:29invasion
- 15:29in
- 15:291956.
- 15:30Just
- 15:31the
- 15:31weirdest
- 15:31stuff.
- 15:32And
- 15:32Orban,
- 15:32look,
- 15:33he's
- 15:33somewhat
- 15:33pro
- 15:34Putin,
- 15:34if
- 15:34you
- 15:34will.
- 15:34He
- 15:34has
- 15:34a
- 15:35close
- 15:35relationship
- 15:35with
- 15:35pro
- 15:36Putin.
- 15:36It's
- 15:36been
- 15:36a
- 15:36thorn
- 15:37in
- 15:37the
- 15:37side
- 15:37of
- 15:38not
- 15:38just
- 15:38NATO,
- 15:39but
- 15:39the
- 15:39European
- 15:39Union.
- 15:40But
- 15:40even
- 15:41Orban
- 15:41was
- 15:42quick
- 15:42to
- 15:42recognize
- 15:42that
- 15:43this
- 15:43was
- 15:43just
- 15:44too
- 15:44much.
- 15:44There
- 15:44were
- 15:45calls
- 15:45for
- 15:45the.
- 15:45Certainly
- 15:46for
- 15:46him
- 15:46to
- 15:46fire
- 15:47that
- 15:47political
- 15:47director.
- 15:48It
- 15:48was
- 15:48a
- 15:48very
- 15:48strange
- 15:49situation,
- 15:49but
- 15:50it
- 15:50did
- 15:50happen
- 15:51and
- 15:51coincide
- 15:52was
- 15:52something
- 15:52similar
- 15:53in
- 15:53Georgia.
- 15:54And
- 15:54I
- 15:54was
- 15:54surprised
- 15:54that
- 15:55this
- 15:55wasn't
- 15:55really
- 15:55connected
- 15:56to
- 15:56the
- 15:56news
- 15:56in
- 15:57Georgia.
- 15:57And
- 15:57I'm
- 15:58not
- 15:58talking
- 15:58about
- 15:58the
- 15:59one
- 15:59in
- 15:59the
- 15:59southeastern
- 16:00United
- 16:00States.
- 16:00I'm
- 16:00talking
- 16:00about
- 16:01Georgia,
- 16:01former
- 16:02soviet
- 16:02republic.
- 16:03They
- 16:03had
- 16:03a
- 16:04sign,
- 16:04road
- 16:05signs
- 16:05put
- 16:05up
- 16:05by
- 16:06the
- 16:06leading
- 16:06political
- 16:07party
- 16:07there,
- 16:07which
- 16:08is
- 16:08ostensibly,
- 16:09shall
- 16:09we
- 16:09say,
- 16:10leaning
- 16:10towards
- 16:11Russia.
- 16:11Pro
- 16:12Putin.
- 16:12Pro
- 16:12Russia
- 16:13in
- 16:13a
- 16:13lot
- 16:13of
- 16:13ways,
- 16:14which
- 16:14has
- 16:14really
- 16:15caused
- 16:15problems
- 16:15with
- 16:16pro
- 16:16democracy
- 16:17movement
- 16:17and
- 16:17the
- 16:17other
- 16:18political
- 16:18parties
- 16:19in
- 16:19Georgia.
- 16:20Well,
- 16:20they
- 16:20put
- 16:20this
- 16:20sign
- 16:21up
- 16:21showing
- 16:21a
- 16:22devastated
- 16:22area
- 16:23of
- 16:23Ukraine,
- 16:24and
- 16:24kind
- 16:24of
- 16:24in
- 16:24the
- 16:25same
- 16:25way
- 16:25they
- 16:25were
- 16:26saying,
- 16:26look,
- 16:26Georgia
- 16:27shouldn't
- 16:27have
- 16:28opposed
- 16:28russian
- 16:29invasion,
- 16:29where
- 16:30Russia
- 16:30went
- 16:30in
- 16:30and
- 16:31took
- 16:31a
- 16:31couple
- 16:31of
- 16:32oblast
- 16:32or
- 16:32province
- 16:33areas
- 16:33in
- 16:34northern
- 16:34Georgia.
- 16:35It
- 16:35was
- 16:35interesting
- 16:36to
- 16:36see
- 16:36that
- 16:37and
- 16:37then
- 16:37juxtapose
- 16:38that
- 16:38against
- 16:38what
- 16:39was
- 16:39just
- 16:39said
- 16:39in
- 16:39Hungary.
- 16:40It
- 16:40appears
- 16:41to
- 16:41look
- 16:41like
- 16:41a
- 16:42coordinated
- 16:42russian
- 16:43disinformation
- 16:44or
- 16:44information
- 16:45operation,
- 16:46a
- 16:46coordinated
- 16:47narrative
- 16:47of
- 16:48basically
- 16:48trying
- 16:48to
- 16:48push
- 16:48the
- 16:49idea
- 16:49that
- 16:49you
- 16:49shouldn't
- 16:50resist
- 16:50russian
- 16:50invasions.
- 16:51Very
- 16:51strange
- 16:52thing.
- 16:52Of
- 16:52course,
- 16:53the
- 16:53hope
- 16:53was
- 16:54that
- 16:54Georgia
- 16:55would
- 16:55eventually
- 16:55become
- 16:55a
- 16:56member
- 16:56of
- 16:56the
- 16:56European
- 16:57Union
- 16:57and
- 16:57NATO.
- 16:58That's
- 16:58not
- 16:58happening
- 16:58anytime
- 16:59soon,
- 16:59obviously,
- 17:00with
- 17:00at
- 17:00least
- 17:00in
- 17:01the
- 17:01current
- 17:01political
- 17:01environment.
- 17:02And
- 17:02of
- 17:02course,
- 17:02Hungary
- 17:03or
- 17:04bond
- 17:04is
- 17:04going
- 17:04to
- 17:04have
- 17:04to
- 17:04try
- 17:04and
- 17:04figure
- 17:05out
- 17:05some
- 17:05way
- 17:05to
- 17:05fix
- 17:05this.
- 17:06Another
- 17:06issue
- 17:06going
- 17:07on
- 17:07around
- 17:07the
- 17:07world
- 17:08is
- 17:08dark
- 17:08tankers,
- 17:09fears
- 17:09of
- 17:10these
- 17:10poorly
- 17:11maintained
- 17:11tankers
- 17:12in
- 17:12the
- 17:12Baltic,
- 17:13in
- 17:13Asia,
- 17:14the
- 17:14Quad,
- 17:14Japan,
- 17:15India,
- 17:16Australia.
- 17:16The
- 17:17US
- 17:17is
- 17:17still
- 17:18informal
- 17:18relationship,
- 17:19but
- 17:19getting
- 17:19stronger.
- 17:20And
- 17:20there's
- 17:20now
- 17:21major,
- 17:21major
- 17:22multinational
- 17:23western
- 17:24US
- 17:24US
- 17:24is
- 17:25involved
- 17:25exercise
- 17:26going
- 17:26on
- 17:26there.
- 17:27At
- 17:27the
- 17:27same
- 17:27time,
- 17:28China's
- 17:28put
- 17:28out
- 17:28a
- 17:28major
- 17:28exercise
- 17:29in
- 17:29the
- 17:29area,
- 17:29and
- 17:30there's
- 17:30still
- 17:30tremendous
- 17:31tension
- 17:31in
- 17:31that
- 17:32area.
- 17:32In
- 17:32Sudan,
- 17:33civil
- 17:33war
- 17:34in
- 17:34Africa.
- 17:34We've
- 17:35seen
- 17:35the
- 17:36government
- 17:36forces
- 17:37actually
- 17:37moving
- 17:37into
- 17:37Khartoum
- 17:38to
- 17:38take
- 17:38some
- 17:39forces
- 17:39away
- 17:39from
- 17:39the
- 17:40anti
- 17:40government
- 17:41militias.
- 17:41And
- 17:42then,
- 17:42of
- 17:42course,
- 17:43the
- 17:43interesting
- 17:43thing,
- 17:44and
- 17:44this
- 17:44is,
- 17:44I'm
- 17:44going
- 17:44to
- 17:44kind
- 17:44of
- 17:45finish
- 17:45with
- 17:45this.
- 17:45I
- 17:46spent
- 17:46some
- 17:46quality
- 17:46time
- 17:47back
- 17:47in
- 17:48the
- 17:48eighties
- 17:48stationed
- 17:48on
- 17:49a
- 17:49little
- 17:49island,
- 17:49or
- 17:50I
- 17:50should
- 17:50say
- 17:50archipelago,
- 17:51a
- 17:51toll,
- 17:51if
- 17:52you
- 17:52will,
- 17:52in
- 17:52the
- 17:52Indian
- 17:53Ocean
- 17:53called
- 17:53Diego
- 17:53Garcia,
- 17:54and
- 17:54it
- 17:55is
- 17:55a
- 17:56british
- 17:56overseas
- 17:57territory.
- 17:58We
- 17:58have
- 17:58a
- 17:58very
- 17:58large
- 17:59or
- 17:59significant
- 18:00us
- 18:00military
- 18:00presence
- 18:01there,
- 18:01strategic
- 18:02presence
- 18:02there.
- 18:02However,
- 18:03it
- 18:03is
- 18:04part
- 18:04of
- 18:04the
- 18:04Mauritius
- 18:05chain
- 18:05of
- 18:05islands
- 18:06and
- 18:06Mauritius
- 18:06has
- 18:06always
- 18:07claimed
- 18:07that
- 18:07it
- 18:07is
- 18:07part
- 18:08of
- 18:08their
- 18:08sovereign
- 18:08territory.
- 18:09Well,
- 18:10they
- 18:10just
- 18:10reached
- 18:10an
- 18:10agreement.
- 18:11Great
- 18:11Britain
- 18:12is
- 18:12going
- 18:12to
- 18:12hand
- 18:12over
- 18:13sovereignty
- 18:14to
- 18:14Mauritius.
- 18:14In
- 18:15exchange
- 18:15for
- 18:15that,
- 18:15Mauritius
- 18:16going
- 18:16to
- 18:16provide
- 18:16a
- 18:17long
- 18:17term
- 18:17agreement
- 18:18on
- 18:18allowing
- 18:18that
- 18:19base
- 18:19to
- 18:19continue.
- 18:20But
- 18:20the
- 18:20rule
- 18:21of
- 18:21unintended
- 18:21consequences.
- 18:22Argentina
- 18:23is
- 18:23looking
- 18:23at
- 18:23this
- 18:23saying,
- 18:24hey,
- 18:24we've
- 18:25been
- 18:25saying
- 18:25the
- 18:25same
- 18:25thing
- 18:25about
- 18:26the
- 18:26Falklands,
- 18:26which
- 18:27they
- 18:27call
- 18:27the
- 18:27Malvinas
- 18:28for
- 18:28quite
- 18:28some
- 18:29time.
- 18:29And
- 18:29you
- 18:29may
- 18:29recall
- 18:29in
- 18:29the
- 18:30early
- 18:30eighties,
- 18:30they
- 18:30actually
- 18:31did
- 18:31a
- 18:31big
- 18:31military
- 18:32operation
- 18:32to
- 18:32try
- 18:32and
- 18:32take
- 18:32the
- 18:32Falklands
- 18:33and
- 18:33the
- 18:33Brits
- 18:33took
- 18:34it
- 18:34back.
- 18:34But
- 18:34now
- 18:35that's
- 18:35raising
- 18:35the
- 18:35issue
- 18:35of
- 18:36british
- 18:36overseas
- 18:36territories.
- 18:37And
- 18:37Argentina,
- 18:38this
- 18:39is
- 18:39becoming
- 18:39part
- 18:39of
- 18:39the
- 18:40current
- 18:40thing
- 18:40we're
- 18:40seeing
- 18:40down
- 18:41South
- 18:41America,
- 18:42talking
- 18:42about
- 18:42the
- 18:42Falklands.
- 18:43I
- 18:43don't
- 18:43think
- 18:43this
- 18:44will
- 18:44lead
- 18:44to
- 18:44another
- 18:44Falklands
- 18:45war,
- 18:45but
- 18:45it
- 18:46is
- 18:46certainly
- 18:46fascinating
- 18:47situation
- 18:47that
- 18:48is
- 18:48a
- 18:48quick
- 18:48run
- 18:49around
- 18:49the
- 18:49world.
- 18:49Talk
- 18:50about
- 18:50supply
- 18:51chains,
- 18:51oil,
- 18:52gas,
- 18:52a
- 18:53variety
- 18:53of
- 18:53different
- 18:53things.
- 18:53Certainly
- 18:54a
- 18:54very
- 18:54different
- 18:54format,
- 18:55I
- 18:55think,
- 18:56from
- 18:56what
- 18:56Mark
- 18:56and
- 18:57I
- 18:57used
- 18:57to
- 18:57talk
- 18:57about,
- 18:58although
- 18:58every
- 18:58single
- 18:59day
- 18:59I
- 18:59wish
- 19:00Mark
- 19:00and
- 19:00was
- 19:00here
- 19:01and
- 19:01we
- 19:01could
- 19:01continue
- 19:02to
- 19:02talk
- 19:02about
- 19:02what
- 19:02we
- 19:03talk
- 19:03about,
- 19:03but
- 19:04strat
- 19:04is
- 19:04continuing.
- 19:05I
- 19:05hope
- 19:05you
- 19:06enjoyed
- 19:06this
- 19:06podcast
- 19:07and
- 19:07I
- 19:07am
- 19:08certainly
- 19:08looking
- 19:08forward
- 19:09to
- 19:10whatever
- 19:10happens
- 19:10going
- 19:11forward.
- 19:11And
- 19:11I
- 19:11will
- 19:12try
- 19:12and
- 19:12do
- 19:12these
- 19:12on
- 19:12a
- 19:12regular
- 19:13basis
- 19:13where
- 19:13I
- 19:13basically
- 19:14just
- 19:14go
- 19:14through
- 19:15and
- 19:15talk
- 19:15about
- 19:16these
- 19:16things,
- 19:16talk
- 19:17about
- 19:17what's
- 19:17happening
- 19:17around
- 19:17the
- 19:18world
- 19:18and
- 19:18try
- 19:18to
- 19:18connect
- 19:18some
- 19:19dots,
- 19:19if
- 19:19you
- 19:19will,
- 19:20and
- 19:20try
- 19:20to
- 19:20put
- 19:20some
- 19:20perspective
- 19:21on
- 19:21it
- 19:21and
- 19:22not
- 19:22ignore
- 19:23things
- 19:23that
- 19:24unfortunately,
- 19:25in
- 19:25broadcast
- 19:26news,
- 19:26there's
- 19:26a
- 19:27lot
- 19:27of
- 19:27stuff
- 19:27that
- 19:27just
- 19:27can't
- 19:28be
- 19:28addressed.
- 19:28And
- 19:29part
- 19:29of
- 19:29Strat
- 19:30is
- 19:30to
- 19:30address
- 19:30some
- 19:31of
- 19:31those
- 19:31issues
- 19:31that
- 19:32maybe
- 19:32don't
- 19:32get
- 19:32enough
- 19:32of
- 19:33a
- 19:33look
- 19:33or
- 19:33don't
- 19:33get
- 19:34a
- 19:34look
- 19:34at
- 19:34all.
- 19:34And
- 19:34the
- 19:35dominant
- 19:35mainstream
- 19:36media.
- 19:36So
- 19:37thank
- 19:37you
- 19:37very
- 19:37much.
- 19:38STRAT,
- 19:39where
- 19:39local
- 19:39friends
- 19:40unfold
- 19:40with
- 19:41Hal
- 19:41Kempfer,
- 19:41braving
- 19:42stories
- 19:42fold
- 19:43from
- 19:43their
- 19:43speed
- 19:43onage
- 19:44to
- 19:44economic
- 19:45might
- 19:46king
- 19:46perspective
- 19:47see
- 19:47the
- 19:47light?
- 19:48Every
- 19:48week
- 19:49across
- 19:50the
- 19:50globe,
- 19:50we
- 19:50spin
- 19:51to
- 19:52coding
- 19:52gray
- 19:53zones
- 19:53where
- 19:54battles
- 19:54often
- 19:55begin.