Latest / The Tom & Gerry Show Podcast / Episode 106: Midge Bites
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hello.
- 0:00Speaker 2: There a Dom and Jerry on this week's episode talking
- 0:04Speaker 2: about midgie flies. And I have to say, lads, you'd
- 0:09Speaker 2: want to perhaps toughen up ever so slightly. I get
- 0:12Speaker 2: pested by flies and wasps and who knows what all
- 0:16Speaker 2: day long. I just don't have time to sweat them away.
- 0:19Speaker 2: When I'm climbing up an underfoot row ladders, I go
- 0:23Speaker 2: into summit of a zen like state of calm. The
- 0:28Speaker 2: flies don't bother me, and I don't bother them. I
- 0:32Speaker 2: highly recommend it. Anyways, I'll see them.
- 0:44Speaker 1: It's the episode of the Tom and Jerry Show. They
- 0:46Speaker 1: didn't want you to hear.
- 0:48Speaker 3: We almost died. Well, well, the show briefly died. Whatever
- 0:54Speaker 3: the hell was. As you said, Jerry, we were snake bit.
- 0:57Speaker 1: When we were snake bit, Tom, everything that we caught,
- 1:00Speaker 1: no matter what juncture we turned that my computer caught out,
- 1:04Speaker 1: his power went out. We we did did. The heavens
- 1:08Speaker 1: are against us this evening, but nevertheless we persisted to
- 1:11Speaker 1: bring you find folks another episode of the Tom and
- 1:14Speaker 1: Jerry Show.
- 1:14Speaker 2: Did you see a whistling woman today by any chance?
- 1:18Speaker 2: Or did somebody put their shoes on the table?
- 1:21Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
- 1:22Speaker 2: Did you Did you knock like a black, torn and
- 1:25Speaker 2: white ornbush today?
- 1:26Speaker 1: No? But I told you I showed you the picture
- 1:28Speaker 1: of the housing development for us. It's not worth a
- 1:32Speaker 1: story on its own, but we'll tell you us about
- 1:34Speaker 1: it here now.
- 1:34Speaker 3: Oh, I honestly I forced that that this is a
- 1:37Speaker 3: I thought it was.
- 1:38Speaker 2: I thought it was a team park first, as I
- 1:40Speaker 2: thought it was first, and then I started looking into them, like, oh,
- 1:44Speaker 2: you've lost the plot here.
- 1:45Speaker 1: So there's a there's a there's a big development going
- 1:47Speaker 1: on out towards rat beside us here, and I don't
- 1:51Speaker 1: know how many houses or housing units as they're called
- 1:54Speaker 1: these days. Tom. We remember when these things were called
- 1:57Speaker 1: fucking houses. But I don't know what it's big concern
- 2:00Speaker 1: out beside the racecourse. Huge, huge, huge, And the name
- 2:03Speaker 1: of the development is fairy Woods. Yeah.
- 2:08Speaker 2: I mean there's a bunch of things that when when
- 2:11Speaker 2: I first saw it, I went, who wants a liver?
- 2:14Speaker 3: Folk and fairy woods?
- 2:16Speaker 2: But then it dawned me win, oh ye are you
- 2:20Speaker 2: fucking with the folk here?
- 2:21Speaker 1: You are literally just the little people. It's one thing
- 2:24Speaker 1: to go into a green field site, bulldozer to the
- 2:27Speaker 1: ground and take every long bush out of it. Ah,
- 2:31Speaker 1: It's quite another to admit that you knew full well
- 2:35Speaker 1: that those fairy forts and fuck knows what in this
- 2:38Speaker 1: and then slap it on the on the on the
- 2:40Speaker 1: like a lot of the times you'll bring the bring
- 2:43Speaker 1: the wee folk down upon yourself despite your best efforts,
- 2:47Speaker 1: and in other times like this is this isn't thrown
- 2:49Speaker 1: caution to the wind town. This is like blatantly turning
- 2:52Speaker 1: around to the wee people and going, come on, you
- 2:54Speaker 1: we bath come on.
- 2:55Speaker 2: Yeah, this has built right next door to Ouigi Heights, Like.
- 3:00Speaker 1: I swear to god, it's like, you know, you wouldn't
- 3:02Speaker 1: possibly build a housing development on an ancient Native American graveyard. No,
- 3:10Speaker 1: but you'll build it out here in remote on the
- 3:13Speaker 1: wee people's playground. Well as luck to you, as all
- 3:18Speaker 1: prices start at six on the ground. That's the fucking look.
- 3:21Speaker 3: That's the fucking look.
- 3:22Speaker 2: I learned a new word today, jer I'm going to
- 3:25Speaker 2: try and say it for you because it bour bonding muss.
- 3:33Speaker 1: You didn't learn it very well, Tom, Give it me again.
- 3:35Speaker 3: Bour bond in mus. It's a very Yeah.
- 3:39Speaker 2: The way they stuck the g in there doesn't really
- 3:41Speaker 2: make sense where it is, but it is an English word.
- 3:43Speaker 3: And it is to describe.
- 3:45Speaker 2: And you and I of our age would have accounted
- 3:47Speaker 2: a probably twice after weekends, gorging intestinal gurgling. That is audible,
- 3:54Speaker 2: audible intestinal gurgling. It's a good word for that. It
- 3:57Speaker 2: kind of sounds like you know, it sounds like that.
- 4:00Speaker 2: Even I've butchered at any any scholars listen to this.
- 4:04Speaker 1: We probably don't any fart scholars in the audience. I mean,
- 4:07Speaker 1: any audience is gonna have fart scholars in it.
- 4:10Speaker 3: It's probably gonna be us. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 4:12Speaker 1: Here we launch into the show. We have a whole
- 4:13Speaker 1: hate show here at for you. There we do we
- 4:15Speaker 1: do we do to the uninitiated. I'm Jerry McBride, that's Tom.
- 4:19Speaker 1: O'many comedians, be they working or lapsed, and we get
- 4:23Speaker 1: together every week to shoot the ship. Very novel. I
- 4:27Speaker 1: gotta tell you, I think we're the only people in
- 4:28Speaker 1: Ireland doing this. I think so at this level, at
- 4:32Speaker 1: least Tom I will yeah, yeah, yeah, at this very
- 4:34Speaker 1: specific level.
- 4:35Speaker 3: But we like it.
- 4:36Speaker 1: Fuck it, what can we do a couple of hundred
- 4:38Speaker 1: episodes into it? Now we're rocking and rolling. And if
- 4:40Speaker 1: you've never heard the show before. We break it up
- 4:43Speaker 1: into a couple of segments, such as this Fortune, where
- 4:45Speaker 1: we took a look at the big news of the week,
- 4:48Speaker 1: the scuttle but the goings on, a segment we call
- 4:51Speaker 1: the weekly what have you.
- 4:52Speaker 2: This is a very complicated case, mad You know, a
- 4:54Speaker 2: lot of a lot of outs, a lot of what
- 4:56Speaker 2: have you, and a lot of strands to keep.
- 4:59Speaker 1: In my head.
- 5:00Speaker 2: Man, they're back in the news. There, They're back in
- 5:03Speaker 2: the news for all the right reasons. You never let
- 5:09Speaker 2: us get their critics, but they got their critics. I
- 5:11Speaker 2: was there at the weekend and I clarified this news
- 5:14Speaker 2: story from the stage and a good few people, and
- 5:17Speaker 2: then I put it to the room and it was
- 5:18Speaker 2: Americans and everything in the comedy club and.
- 5:21Speaker 1: They loved it.
- 5:23Speaker 3: They loved the idea.
- 5:24Speaker 2: Because a couple of weeks ago we had Center Gould
- 5:28Speaker 2: where he had the Jamaican he would have to draw
- 5:30Speaker 2: draw on the ivan and people thought he was Jamaica
- 5:32Speaker 2: and whatnot. Well, this one is from a counselor, Oliver
- 5:38Speaker 2: Morn of the Green Party or on Cork City. He's
- 5:42Speaker 2: on the Cork City Council and basically he put forward
- 5:46Speaker 2: and it was being a bit tongue cheek because they
- 5:48Speaker 2: were talking about like drawn tourism and stuff like that,
- 5:50Speaker 2: you know, and the likes of the Green Party would
- 5:52Speaker 2: have their you know, with their beak, could have nice
- 5:55Speaker 2: but the stuff when it comes to tourism. But he
- 5:57Speaker 2: wanted to erect a tiny star, which I think has
- 6:02Speaker 2: to happen now at this stage, a tiny statue commemorating
- 6:06Speaker 2: the mosquito or midge that we would have in this
- 6:09Speaker 2: country that bit the rotten hunt from history. That was
- 6:15Speaker 2: Oliver Cromwell who eventually died of malaria as a.
- 6:20Speaker 1: Laria from it. Now, phil in mc cromwell history, Tom,
- 6:23Speaker 1: Where did that take place?
- 6:24Speaker 2: So that this he actually got bitten in Cork? They
- 6:27Speaker 2: believe in he came back around because he had his
- 6:30Speaker 2: first gallery off the place as they're saying, Cork was
- 6:33Speaker 2: forty sixteen forty nine to sixteen fifty.
- 6:36Speaker 3: But he was back in Cork.
- 6:39Speaker 2: For some more smashing in sixteen fifty eight and that's
- 6:43Speaker 2: when like he got bit by a midge of some
- 6:46Speaker 2: sort and it was carrying a serious dose. But you
- 6:49Speaker 2: know what I mean, this was a pay It had
- 6:50Speaker 2: a payload target fucking sight it.
- 6:53Speaker 1: And hard not to believe in some form of God, Tom,
- 6:56Speaker 1: did you know do you know what I mean? Like
- 7:00Speaker 1: no better man to get it.
- 7:02Speaker 2: You've been beaten by a million midges as if I
- 7:04Speaker 2: I got it. Yes, I literally get him beard of
- 7:07Speaker 2: them last night.
- 7:07Speaker 1: They were just her images within the hour of talking
- 7:10Speaker 1: to you.
- 7:10Speaker 2: Here, buddy, And they never did I get malaria off it,
- 7:14Speaker 2: never got malaria of a single one far away. And
- 7:18Speaker 2: he'd this dirty right rotten bastard got fucking got killed
- 7:25Speaker 2: as a result of being in Ireland.
- 7:27Speaker 1: You know when I said, Tom, and I don't say
- 7:29Speaker 1: it awful about the dead, but good.
- 7:31Speaker 2: So to give anybody I do want to give because
- 7:34Speaker 2: if people are listening to tuning in from I don't know,
- 7:36Speaker 2: Scandinavia or something, which we do.
- 7:38Speaker 1: We have people all over the world, why don't they
- 7:41Speaker 1: like this crumwell guy in Ireland?
- 7:43Speaker 3: Their love exactly?
- 7:45Speaker 2: So essentially this he was at this point in British history.
- 7:51Speaker 2: British people didn't even particularly like him, but the new
- 7:53Speaker 2: government that was in was staunchly Protestant and their whole
- 7:57Speaker 2: thing was and he anti the royal anti royalists, you know,
- 8:01Speaker 2: they were anti the monarchy themselves. They did were basically
- 8:04Speaker 2: dominating the situation, and he wanted this motherfucker basically he
- 8:08Speaker 2: was just savage and he would go anywhere they wanted
- 8:11Speaker 2: him to go. And he said they sent him into
- 8:12Speaker 2: Ireland because they were a bit worried about there was
- 8:14Speaker 2: going to be another uprising, Like, yeah, there were, he
- 8:17Speaker 2: had been an uprising, like in the early part of
- 8:19Speaker 2: sixteen hundreds. I'm not sure when it was, I'd be
- 8:23Speaker 2: shy on but essentially he took off a laid seed.
- 8:29Speaker 3: He like, he dropped.
- 8:31Speaker 2: They say raised, which I never understand that when they
- 8:33Speaker 2: level the place to the ground they call him raising
- 8:36Speaker 2: it to the ground. It's like, I know it's spelled differently,
- 8:38Speaker 2: but okay, all right, I'm sure it's old.
- 8:40Speaker 3: English or whatever. But he he he killed three and
- 8:42Speaker 3: a half thousand people in Drada. Do you know they
- 8:45Speaker 3: don't like him, and Draha don't and as.
- 8:50Speaker 2: And as Patrick McDonald would say, oh, I'm sure quoted
- 8:53Speaker 2: before he said and he did bad things as well.
- 8:57Speaker 1: But yeah, no, Cromwell, the English crowns blunt tool for
- 9:03Speaker 1: sorting out foreign uprisings as some such a generous.
- 9:07Speaker 3: That's the thing. He wasn't. He wasn't even he was.
- 9:13Speaker 2: He wasn't the actual monarchy. He hated him because he
- 9:16Speaker 2: was anti monarchy. He wanted to be full Church of England,
- 9:18Speaker 2: to take over full control of the place. So he
- 9:21Speaker 2: was actually trying to stamp out any sort of uprising
- 9:23Speaker 2: that might be of the Catholics who were who actually
- 9:27Speaker 2: would have preferred the fucking royal family, do you know
- 9:30Speaker 2: what I mean? So he was stamping out them as
- 9:32Speaker 2: well as possibility of Royalists kicking up. He also took
- 9:36Speaker 2: whatever wealthy Irish landowners that wear here. That's when the
- 9:40Speaker 2: real usurping started.
- 9:42Speaker 3: That's what he was like, oh.
- 9:44Speaker 2: Myes and giving it to me five fucking and they
- 9:48Speaker 2: gave it to like adventurers who were investors. Up there
- 9:51Speaker 2: was people invested.
- 9:53Speaker 3: I mean, war, war doesn't change, doesn't.
- 9:56Speaker 1: I just want to say, thank God, there's no real
- 9:58Speaker 1: world parallels we can draw to this.
- 10:00Speaker 2: I know there were investors in that campaign to smash
- 10:04Speaker 2: Ireland and steal basically what they could at the time,
- 10:06Speaker 2: and then anybody that survived, like they killed another two
- 10:09Speaker 2: thousand in Wexford if I remember correctly, and the pike
- 10:12Speaker 2: men of Westward Wexford almost had a decent rebellion, but
- 10:15Speaker 2: they did get quite drunk just before that fight.
- 10:19Speaker 3: That happens.
- 10:20Speaker 2: But he sent whoever did survive, if it wasn't into
- 10:23Speaker 2: intended servitude, which we talked about on the Senator Gold
- 10:26Speaker 2: episode and white people ended up with that accident in
- 10:28Speaker 2: the Barbados. But he sent there was a phrase to
- 10:31Speaker 2: hell or to conduct and that's where he'd send you.
- 10:33Speaker 2: So if you're the lovely five hundred acres grown spuds
- 10:36Speaker 2: down and Wexford and was like, oh manving it off
- 10:39Speaker 2: the fucking mayar with you and you're like, what's mayo
- 10:42Speaker 2: find a.
- 10:43Speaker 1: Funk off to Hades or belt Herbert, and that's.
- 10:47Speaker 3: That's essentially brought about.
- 10:48Speaker 2: Then the you know, poor on misfortunes and that's where
- 10:52Speaker 2: the plague really came from. But I would do have
- 10:54Speaker 2: to stick in before we circle back and give this
- 10:57Speaker 2: midgie a huge around of laws.
- 10:59Speaker 1: Huge.
- 11:00Speaker 2: I do have a personal thing with Cromwell, which I
- 11:03Speaker 2: was only telling the small that about the other day.
- 11:06Speaker 2: He the only place that he actually really suffered very
- 11:10Speaker 2: badly and he lost close to two and a half
- 11:12Speaker 2: thousand men himself, was at the Gates of clanmel Here
- 11:16Speaker 2: in Tipperary.
- 11:17Speaker 1: He knew.
- 11:18Speaker 2: He eventually did take it, but it was more of
- 11:21Speaker 2: a fucking moral victory. He was absolutely depleted, but he
- 11:25Speaker 2: knew at that stage that these fuckers are melting down
- 11:30Speaker 2: their silver and using them as fucking bullets, and he
- 11:32Speaker 2: was like, well, I can't beat these guns. So he
- 11:35Speaker 2: eventually did take it, but he circled back and was
- 11:38Speaker 2: back in fifty ninety or sixteen fifty eight to Cork
- 11:42Speaker 2: to lay siege to Cork and le siege he attempted,
- 11:46Speaker 2: but he got He got fucking bitten by a midge.
- 11:52Speaker 1: Good.
- 11:52Speaker 3: Yeah, good.
- 11:55Speaker 1: So come back to present day, Yeah, and our and
- 11:59Speaker 1: our good Green party antler. Now he suggests that we
- 12:02Speaker 1: build a tiny, tiny statue, which I think is hilarious
- 12:05Speaker 1: if you have a tiny little put a huge a
- 12:09Speaker 1: huge plaque, a huge plan little But you have to
- 12:14Speaker 1: think now that he said that as a joke, like
- 12:17Speaker 1: they we're like, what do we build that? Who we
- 12:19Speaker 1: build a statue to? Huh? Who do we build a statute?
- 12:21Speaker 1: Will we build a statue of Big Tom Or will
- 12:23Speaker 1: we build a statue to Joe Biden? Or will we
- 12:27Speaker 1: build a statue to Colin Farrell? And goes, hey, tell
- 12:32Speaker 1: you are tell you a great save you on silver wise,
- 12:36Speaker 1: Ah build a statue to a mage.
- 12:40Speaker 3: And everybody laughed and yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 12:43Speaker 2: Everybody laughed in the Parliament today because it was supposed
- 12:46Speaker 2: to be tong and cheap, because they wanted to bring
- 12:48Speaker 2: up obviously tourism things and they want he said that,
- 12:51Speaker 2: you know, as you said to himself, there's a thousand
- 12:54Speaker 2: years of good history and corp with great like there was.
- 12:56Speaker 2: There's a there's a great story and there was a
- 12:59Speaker 2: bar memorating the story of it. And it's a did
- 13:02Speaker 2: you ever hear the song on poker bulla? It's an
- 13:04Speaker 2: Irish and it basically tells the story of the day
- 13:08Speaker 2: this goat went fucking mad at a.
- 13:09Speaker 3: Marriage and.
- 13:13Speaker 2: And he went mad, and it's a great story of
- 13:16Speaker 2: how he fucking knocked over all sorts.
- 13:18Speaker 3: Of I can buy. I believe every fucking bit of
- 13:21Speaker 3: that story.
- 13:21Speaker 1: By the way, the song is brilliant.
- 13:25Speaker 2: And there's a there was a big of pub for
- 13:27Speaker 2: the longest time called the Goat Broke. The Goat Broke
- 13:30Speaker 2: Loose was the name, and it was a great pub
- 13:32Speaker 2: but since gone. But Cork earned shy of having the
- 13:37Speaker 2: crack with stuff like that, which I love.
- 13:40Speaker 3: Do you know where they go?
- 13:41Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's like, as they said, look with
- 13:43Speaker 2: a thousand years of great history here, we should get
- 13:46Speaker 2: into it. And nobody and there's fucking nobody to this
- 13:51Speaker 2: day could say that Cromwell was.
- 13:53Speaker 3: He was a fucking horrible con to everybody.
- 13:55Speaker 1: And it's like building a statue to the bullet that
- 13:57Speaker 1: Hitler put through his own head.
- 13:59Speaker 3: Yeah, the I that was literally what I said on
- 14:01Speaker 3: stage the other night.
- 14:02Speaker 2: First, I was talking about talking about having a grudge
- 14:04Speaker 2: like corn people, you could have a fucking grudge, but
- 14:07Speaker 2: if you really need to get to the bottom of
- 14:09Speaker 2: your fucking grudge, you.
- 14:10Speaker 3: Find the Midge, the Midgi, that fucking bit out of
- 14:14Speaker 3: a kron do you know what I mean?
- 14:17Speaker 2: Like, it was fucking brilliant, and I honestly you're so
- 14:22Speaker 2: like it's done the rounds on the Internet and there's
- 14:24Speaker 2: been lots there's always memes and stuff about, you know,
- 14:27Speaker 2: and there's great if anybody wants to go to Reddit,
- 14:29Speaker 2: go check it out Republican Midge. It's fucking great and
- 14:34Speaker 2: just followed like people are very funny about it. But
- 14:38Speaker 2: do if you like, you look at all the statues
- 14:42Speaker 2: around the country. People go they look at them and
- 14:44Speaker 2: they're supposed to be commemorating a real person. But there's
- 14:46Speaker 2: a couple of novelty ones. But you look at You
- 14:48Speaker 2: go to Brussels and one of the most visited things
- 14:51Speaker 2: isn't the automium, It isn't museums, it's the mannequan pits
- 14:54Speaker 2: and it's.
- 14:56Speaker 3: You don't flip peason.
- 14:57Speaker 2: Yeah, like okay, that's a fucking odd thing. And they
- 15:00Speaker 2: dress it up with different jackets all year round. But
- 15:03Speaker 2: it's such a bit of crack. People got grant great,
- 15:06Speaker 2: get a picture with the unpil taking a slash who chair.
- 15:10Speaker 3: I swear to god I would be there. I'd be
- 15:14Speaker 3: there for the opening up that if if if.
- 15:16Speaker 1: You're taking a picture and you're just going like this
- 15:17Speaker 1: and there's nothing behind you, but you're like, no, no,
- 15:20Speaker 1: it's there.
- 15:20Speaker 3: Zoom zoomage.
- 15:22Speaker 2: You gotta like one of those you know, iPhone seventeen
- 15:24Speaker 2: zoom Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's I think it's a.
- 15:28Speaker 3: Huge, big, oversized plaque. Then do you know what I mean?
- 15:31Speaker 1: Not a huge I'm gonna tell you this now, Tom,
- 15:33Speaker 1: and we'll move on from the bit. Even if the
- 15:37Speaker 1: motion is defeated and there's no public money going to
- 15:41Speaker 1: to to make this thing s Lord nose, Air, fucking balance,
- 15:45Speaker 1: grape and great masters of this world and be like,
- 15:47Speaker 1: oh no, we can't offend the good name of Cromwell.
- 15:50Speaker 3: You yeah, yeah, yeah, I.
- 15:52Speaker 1: Can't see it getting moving ahead with public funding and
- 15:55Speaker 1: all that kind of thing. I think the good people
- 15:57Speaker 1: at Cork should do it anyway.
- 15:59Speaker 2: What listen, you're called the rebels, stand up and be
- 16:02Speaker 2: counted for this stage.
- 16:04Speaker 1: Now getting some Just someone melt down a silver spoon,
- 16:08Speaker 1: you only need the type of it and make yourself
- 16:12Speaker 1: a little statue. Now.
- 16:13Speaker 3: I'm glad.
- 16:14Speaker 2: I'm glad you have brought up about core people donning
- 16:16Speaker 2: themselves there because the one thing that would worry me
- 16:19Speaker 2: that if this did get green lit, would be the
- 16:22Speaker 2: tendering process. Because as you've seen public public construction and
- 16:28Speaker 2: civil works that have been going on down through the
- 16:30Speaker 2: last couple of years here in Ireland, a life size
- 16:34Speaker 2: mosquito could cost north of about two hundred and eighty thousand.
- 16:37Speaker 3: I would imagine.
- 16:38Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
- 16:39Speaker 3: Just just just do it yourself, do it yourself.
- 16:41Speaker 2: Plenty of good craftsmen and women down there, get down
- 16:44Speaker 2: there a good artist from Kinsale or something. Just just
- 16:48Speaker 2: make as a mosquito, bronze mosquito there you go. Would
- 16:52Speaker 2: have been a little smile on his face, like.
- 16:54Speaker 1: And dim up and sting him again where they're at it?
- 16:57Speaker 1: How about that commere time. We'll push on with the
- 17:00Speaker 1: bit here now on the Tom and Jerry Show into
- 17:02Speaker 1: the second segment of the show where we pick these
- 17:05Speaker 1: lads from the from the well, I hang on, go
- 17:08Speaker 1: back a little bit there. You're drinking out of a
- 17:10Speaker 1: Mayo mug.
- 17:11Speaker 2: I got given yeah, well spotted, I got given this
- 17:14Speaker 2: In a very strange scenarios opening for Chris Kent in
- 17:17Speaker 2: Mayo one night and the TF just prior, about ten
- 17:22Speaker 2: minutes prior, we got accosted by staff who we didn't
- 17:25Speaker 2: know were staff. They didn't introduce themselves to staff. They
- 17:28Speaker 2: just came in with a camera, microphone, two cameras microphone
- 17:32Speaker 2: and an interviewer who is.
- 17:34Speaker 1: The cook report and fucked.
- 17:38Speaker 2: But then they handle us a bag of paraphernalia with
- 17:40Speaker 2: Mayo things stuff on it and said, okay, let's have
- 17:43Speaker 2: a bit of crack with he taking out some Mayo
- 17:45Speaker 2: teamed items, all absolute Chinese may and I won't lie
- 17:50Speaker 2: I had to run the bastard because I said, I'm sorry, mate,
- 17:52Speaker 2: but you should have been here half an hour ago.
- 17:54Speaker 3: I'm about to fucking walk on stage if you don't.
- 17:57Speaker 1: Mind, Magic's about to happen here.
- 17:59Speaker 3: And what's the purpose of this?
- 18:01Speaker 2: He went, Oh, just for promotion, and to which point
- 18:03Speaker 2: Chris went, this has been sold out for six months.
- 18:07Speaker 2: We uh, promotion is kind of done on that one.
- 18:11Speaker 2: Can we fucking move on? So we ended up walking
- 18:13Speaker 2: away with a bunch of this I gave. I think
- 18:15Speaker 2: I gave one Colgan. I think I gave him an
- 18:18Speaker 2: air freshener from that smelt of Mayo. You go, And
- 18:21Speaker 2: I walked away because I do love a good cup
- 18:23Speaker 2: for anybody. I mean, there's a Mayo fell of standing
- 18:26Speaker 2: on what would seem to be a football dublin for
- 18:28Speaker 2: a I mean, it's absolutely generic and you could swap
- 18:32Speaker 2: that jersey out with a tip jersey and what not,
- 18:33Speaker 2: and but not men but giants, it says Mayo. Fair enough,
- 18:38Speaker 2: but giants like fucking bridesmaid's dresses. It would seem jer
- 18:41Speaker 2: because they've been in like twenty six finals and last
- 18:43Speaker 2: focal since.
- 18:43Speaker 3: The course we should talk about the course of.
- 18:45Speaker 2: Mayo sometime where they they did the bus and a
- 18:49Speaker 2: funeral and all the rest of them.
- 18:50Speaker 3: They've run the last fuck they won, fuck all since.
- 18:54Speaker 1: More and all that. In a later episode of The
- 18:56Speaker 1: Tom and Jerry Show, you know as mad, we got
- 18:59Speaker 1: through the segment with Cromwell without gold mad all that much,
- 19:02Speaker 1: and then we get talking about me. I can I'll
- 19:04Speaker 1: tell you who can fuck off?
- 19:07Speaker 3: Do you know what? We honeymounded me. I have a
- 19:09Speaker 3: soft spot for me. I do like that.
- 19:11Speaker 1: I like it. I like me just fine.
- 19:13Speaker 2: It's not it has no airs and graces, which is
- 19:15Speaker 2: what I like.
- 19:17Speaker 1: Anyway. Second segment of the show, This Lad, Now there's
- 19:23Speaker 1: this Lad picks up this week Tom with and again
- 19:27Speaker 1: thank you very much for the listeners of the Tom
- 19:28Speaker 1: and Jerry Show who are quite frankly doing our jobs
- 19:30Speaker 1: for sending us fun things to see. This is the
- 19:34Speaker 1: curious case of the French.
- 19:38Speaker 3: Do you know what?
- 19:39Speaker 1: Who are drunk as fuck?
- 19:41Speaker 2: Well? This is the most French deer I've ever seen.
- 19:44Speaker 2: Like it's just he's leaping around. Anybody who can find
- 19:46Speaker 2: this video? Jerry was sure we'll find it and put
- 19:49Speaker 2: it up there. He's the He's going around the worldli
- 19:51Speaker 2: gig flying around the kind of a hayfield by himself.
- 19:53Speaker 2: And my initial thought when I saw it, I went,
- 19:55Speaker 2: I'll stay away from that joke, and has fucking rabies.
- 19:57Speaker 1: Or something, Yeah exactly.
- 19:59Speaker 2: But then if out of his France and immediately went
- 20:02Speaker 2: to he's probably steaming just I don't know why he is.
- 20:07Speaker 1: These are These are the deer ladies and gentlemen from
- 20:09Speaker 1: saone in the war which I think my pronunciation is
- 20:13Speaker 1: pretty good on that, Tom sa the war in France,
- 20:16Speaker 1: and they are drunk as fuck running them up in
- 20:19Speaker 1: the fields. There is videos, as Tom said, there of
- 20:21Speaker 1: them doing doughnuts in the in the middle of it,
- 20:25Speaker 1: running up to Brazilian lads on bikes buying pills, running
- 20:29Speaker 1: around the place.
- 20:31Speaker 3: I mean, it's pure French.
- 20:32Speaker 2: One of them is smoking a fact I filter FA
- 20:35Speaker 2: on top of that too, like just little beret on
- 20:37Speaker 2: his head. He's got a stripey top on. He's going
- 20:40Speaker 2: fucking ape ship around the hayfield. We forget David Swaffen
- 20:44Speaker 2: like that. France is fair culture too. Like there there's
- 20:47Speaker 2: there's some amount of France.
- 20:49Speaker 1: Yeah, you and I probably both know boys that moved
- 20:52Speaker 1: from here to buy farms in France and settle down
- 20:55Speaker 1: and fit in incredibly nicely, because it on the temperament
- 21:01Speaker 1: of the place is buying large similar to what we
- 21:04Speaker 1: have here. But I'll tell you what we don't have
- 21:06Speaker 1: that they appear to have in France. Tom is apples
- 21:10Speaker 1: fermenting on the branch. Is it what has become the
- 21:14Speaker 1: ruin of this poor year?
- 21:15Speaker 2: Because that was my first question was going where can
- 21:18Speaker 2: I get somebody these? Because it just to me and
- 21:19Speaker 2: he was fermented fruits. They left it wide open, and
- 21:22Speaker 2: my first thought was can I get my hand? Because
- 21:24Speaker 2: anybody wants to go back through the archives or you've
- 21:26Speaker 2: been living listening with us for ten years, you know
- 21:28Speaker 2: they had a segment for a couple of seasons called
- 21:31Speaker 2: My Drunkest Ever where we got real fucked up and
- 21:34Speaker 2: we told stories about it.
- 21:36Speaker 1: You also might remember a special that we did one
- 21:38Speaker 1: time about how to make pot cheens and how to
- 21:41Speaker 1: misted liquors and all this kind of thing. Come to
- 21:44Speaker 1: find out, just go to Sion and La War in
- 21:46Speaker 1: France and eat it straight off the fucking trees. That's
- 21:48Speaker 1: what the apples that are either on the trees or
- 21:51Speaker 1: the falling off and they're they're kind of half rotten
- 21:54Speaker 1: and whatever the makeup on nature of this apple is.
- 21:57Speaker 1: It's rotting in such a way that it's basically fermenting.
- 22:01Speaker 1: And those apples are Moorish. It seems the deer are
- 22:07Speaker 1: eating them either straight off the three or from the
- 22:09Speaker 1: ground and and and and the being fermented fruit. Tom,
- 22:13Speaker 1: it's it's fermented apples. It's clonmel champagne maybe either on
- 22:16Speaker 1: the side or they're on the cider.
- 22:18Speaker 2: It's not which again, it's not if if if you,
- 22:21Speaker 2: if you use AI to go through our podcast, you'll
- 22:24Speaker 2: find that we did we Jerry and myself we did
- 22:28Speaker 2: an episode about submarine people getting fucked up, drinking.
- 22:32Speaker 1: People on drinks and how to make potin and all this.
- 22:35Speaker 2: Kind of it's just mosh fruit and that's it. And
- 22:40Speaker 2: these these poor old deer, I suppose can you imagine
- 22:44Speaker 2: though I'm guessing at this stage they're pure French deer,
- 22:46Speaker 2: right they fair not What they're doing is the crack
- 22:48Speaker 2: every year.
- 22:49Speaker 1: You have to assume, Tom, they've given their French deer
- 22:51Speaker 1: that they're a little bit drunk to be green.
- 22:53Speaker 2: They're probably born a bit drunk, just know, and they
- 22:57Speaker 2: just and every so often that's that, and they you know,
- 23:01Speaker 2: they're just not they're not They're just there for them.
- 23:06Speaker 2: I would imagine these deer knew that they were going
- 23:08Speaker 2: to get pissed on these apples, because that deer looks
- 23:10Speaker 2: like all the time.
- 23:12Speaker 1: He looks like he's on on the tail end of
- 23:13Speaker 1: a three day bend, or like as Tom said, there,
- 23:16Speaker 1: it really looks like the animal is ray. But now
- 23:19Speaker 1: that doesn't stop people approaching this animal, which is a
- 23:23Speaker 1: wild deer to begin with, but dangerously booking and throwing
- 23:28Speaker 1: their legs in the back there deer. You know what
- 23:30Speaker 1: it is about deer, Tom, And we see it up
- 23:32Speaker 1: in Phoenix Park here as well, that people think deer
- 23:35Speaker 1: because they look nice, are nice animals, and they'll approach them.
- 23:39Speaker 1: I'm like, you're going about the right way of getting
- 23:41Speaker 1: rotted into the ground there. I made Bomby.
- 23:45Speaker 2: We're just one step I've actually gotten. I've got to
- 23:48Speaker 2: get it from America. Would you believe it's a new product,
- 23:51Speaker 2: so I'll have my little little backpack sprayer nice. Now
- 23:55Speaker 2: it's organic, so it's actually it will suit your plants
- 23:58Speaker 2: and stuff like that. But by all account to my
- 24:00Speaker 2: goats and.
- 24:01Speaker 3: Local the deer we have here.
- 24:05Speaker 2: Fucking hate the smell of this stuff, so you can't
- 24:08Speaker 2: it's not really you won't get into the nostrils as
- 24:10Speaker 2: a human, but I know.
- 24:14Speaker 1: It's some I'm it's like outor piss or something like that.
- 24:17Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you. I'm doing the French here
- 24:21Speaker 2: at this stage. I believe it when I fucking see it,
- 24:23Speaker 2: because these motherfuckers, our guys are so brazen. They would
- 24:28Speaker 2: you know, they'd hold you at knife point if they
- 24:30Speaker 2: could hold a knife. That's what they were dealing with here.
- 24:33Speaker 1: Did sharpen their horns and their antlers on on like
- 24:35Speaker 1: a bit of a stick or something.
- 24:36Speaker 2: And if anybody wants to go back to my Instagram,
- 24:39Speaker 2: you will see what one that we call the king
- 24:41Speaker 2: around here. He's been, he survived many as a hunt
- 24:44Speaker 2: and he is He was during the root last year.
- 24:48Speaker 2: I was driving home for a gig late up our
- 24:50Speaker 2: lane and what can only described as a twelve pointer
- 24:54Speaker 2: and as a big boy when you can get a
- 24:55Speaker 2: twelve pointer in Ireland. He's trotting in front of me
- 24:58Speaker 2: jar and I mean trotting. He he had ninety four
- 25:02Speaker 2: opportunities to run into a field.
- 25:04Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you go into the field.
- 25:06Speaker 2: And the following night he was out a little further
- 25:09Speaker 2: up there with eleven of his bodies. The rout had
- 25:11Speaker 2: stopped that stage, but they still had all their antlers,
- 25:14Speaker 2: so they weren't fighting. Now he'd twelve of the lads
- 25:17Speaker 2: and they all stood in the middle of the road
- 25:19Speaker 2: and stared at me.
- 25:19Speaker 3: A couple of moved, he didn't.
- 25:22Speaker 2: He walked slowly down the side of my car, stared
- 25:25Speaker 2: in the I could I was processpot, couldn't even get
- 25:28Speaker 2: the phone out. He stared in the window like, that's
- 25:30Speaker 2: the right motherfucker I own this town.
- 25:33Speaker 3: And I'm like, we.
- 25:34Speaker 1: Out tonate lad?
- 25:35Speaker 3: Is this? Yeah?
- 25:36Speaker 1: Like going straight at home?
- 25:38Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
- 25:38Speaker 2: Put the window down their license and registration kind of moment.
- 25:42Speaker 2: I'm serious there. If that guy was on fucking on
- 25:44Speaker 2: the sauce, run and I mean run, yeah, because he
- 25:49Speaker 2: will fuck you up. Like he had a set of
- 25:52Speaker 2: spikes hanging six on each side and probably two and
- 25:55Speaker 2: a half foot long of spikes hanging off his head.
- 25:58Speaker 3: That he would.
- 26:00Speaker 1: You all, here's the thing to you say. Run? Do
- 26:03Speaker 1: you know who else says run? The French cops they
- 26:05Speaker 1: said run. They're telling Hey, be cautious. This is this
- 26:10Speaker 1: is like a known thing in the area. There are
- 26:13Speaker 1: drunk deer in a wooded area, small country roads going through.
- 26:17Speaker 1: Please drive carefully, keep an eye out for the drunk deer,
- 26:20Speaker 1: because we promise you they are not keeping an eye
- 26:22Speaker 1: out for you. Now here's the thing, acking the lad
- 26:25Speaker 1: hacking the bollocks for traffic cones on their heads.
- 26:27Speaker 2: Yeah, pissing in public like they there? Does one cancel
- 26:32Speaker 2: the other? Because there's a strong possibility being French drivers,
- 26:36Speaker 2: that they're also drunk. I mean, are they going to
- 26:39Speaker 2: avoid each other on the road because of osmosis like it?
- 26:42Speaker 2: Are they going to you know, being telepathic for drunk?
- 26:44Speaker 1: I think the only safe thing to do, Tom is
- 26:46Speaker 1: just avoid this where the war region of France for
- 26:50Speaker 1: the time being.
- 26:51Speaker 2: Look, let the apple season pass, whatever their season. I mean,
- 26:55Speaker 2: it's fucking early in the season for apples, like unless
- 26:57Speaker 2: they're crab apples. No crab, it's even two are maybe
- 27:00Speaker 2: Look it's eastern France, which is obviously way warmer than here.
- 27:05Speaker 3: Maybe their apples come out earlier in this eason.
- 27:07Speaker 1: Who's to say, But I'll tell you wonder them that
- 27:08Speaker 1: I do know about apples, Tom and you know it
- 27:10Speaker 1: as well. They are a seasonal fruit. So I won't.
- 27:13Speaker 1: I don't want to be around here in about three
- 27:14Speaker 1: or four months when all these apples are gone and
- 27:17Speaker 1: these deer have had a taste apples.
- 27:20Speaker 3: And then, Dick, what's the of the apples?
- 27:24Speaker 1: What is the crack with the apples? I didn't look
- 27:26Speaker 1: at any apples.
- 27:26Speaker 3: Today, well as the apples you passed out. I will
- 27:31Speaker 3: that's all got New Jack City. Then he's just scratching
- 27:33Speaker 3: with his scratched his neck.
- 27:40Speaker 1: A man, I'm my lady Joseph.
- 27:43Speaker 2: For some apples. Man just smoking a little fag inside
- 27:46Speaker 2: his hoof, but backwards.
- 27:47Speaker 3: You know what I mean, like fellows under pressure.
- 27:52Speaker 1: All right. I don't know if we have any French
- 27:54Speaker 1: listeners in always Irish probably run them away. But here
- 28:00Speaker 1: we are.
- 28:00Speaker 3: We have an Irish couple that listen.
- 28:02Speaker 2: They are near Larrochelle in southern France and they listen
- 28:06Speaker 2: as well, so they probably know all about this, although
- 28:10Speaker 2: they're a bit more refined on that neck of the woods.
- 28:12Speaker 1: I think we we would like to take this opportunity
- 28:15Speaker 1: to warn them of the drunk deer.
- 28:17Speaker 2: Don't be heading to eastern it'd be where it is
- 28:20Speaker 2: because I looked it up. It's kind of if you
- 28:22Speaker 2: imagine where Dublin would be. Yes, Dublin slash deer would
- 28:26Speaker 2: be the Dublin of France, which makes it lot gravity speak,
- 28:29Speaker 2: It makes a lot of sense.
- 28:30Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean this is a too yeah no,
- 28:33Speaker 1: if if, if, indeed, we do have a pair of
- 28:34Speaker 1: listeners in Lara Shell, please be careful of the deer.
- 28:36Speaker 1: If it's one thing that Tom and Jerry Show can't
- 28:38Speaker 1: afford to do, it's lose.
- 28:41Speaker 3: Not our French contingent. Anyway, Geez lost the whole country.
- 28:45Speaker 3: We get a grant for you too.
- 28:50Speaker 1: And you know, if you know of any drunk animals
- 28:53Speaker 1: here in Ireland, please let us know. I personally would
- 28:56Speaker 1: love to get my dog drunk. I think you'd be
- 28:58Speaker 1: great give them drink.
- 29:00Speaker 2: It accidentally happened when we were in college. We adopted
- 29:03Speaker 2: the dog, and I say adopted the dog. A dog
- 29:05Speaker 2: wandered into our student house.
- 29:06Speaker 3: Well, I wouldn't leave.
- 29:08Speaker 2: He had no color, he'd know nothing. He looked a
- 29:10Speaker 2: bit shaggy. So we washed him and we got him
- 29:12Speaker 2: dog food and everything. We looked after him. His name
- 29:15Speaker 2: became Declan I don't know why. He just looked like
- 29:17Speaker 2: declan the dog now in mungrel everything, and he I'm
- 29:22Speaker 2: going to say it was accidental, but I'd say it
- 29:25Speaker 2: was accidental. There was the makings of about half liter
- 29:30Speaker 2: in a thro what you remember those contry spring ones.
- 29:33Speaker 2: I think I've heard about this. It was Whitesider called
- 29:36Speaker 2: Frosty Jack six percent. And during a bit of a
- 29:41Speaker 2: sash after saying I bought a half liter, we reckon
- 29:44Speaker 2: was left in it and he knocked it up.
- 29:47Speaker 3: It was on the floor with no cap on it.
- 29:48Speaker 3: He tapped it over. None of us had knocked it
- 29:51Speaker 3: over because my room was right beside the kitchen.
- 29:54Speaker 2: I came out at about seven o'clock in the morning,
- 29:57Speaker 2: dying to hear the dog howl and but singing howl
- 30:01Speaker 2: like having like the out triangle. He was gone full
- 30:07Speaker 2: Luke Kelly, this dog. He was having the time of
- 30:11Speaker 2: his fucking life. He went, you know, proceeded to to
- 30:15Speaker 2: just something never did. He went and just pissed into hall,
- 30:20Speaker 2: panned out everything he could get his teeth wrong, because
- 30:23Speaker 2: there was a couple of crisps knocking around the sitting room,
- 30:25Speaker 2: you know what I mean. He fucking kicked over his
- 30:28Speaker 2: bowl of food. He was in fucking ribbons, falling around
- 30:30Speaker 2: the place, puked then in the sittingroom, and then slept
- 30:34Speaker 2: it off for day. Was not right for two days
- 30:36Speaker 2: after a grumpy fucker. He was declan was but we
- 30:40Speaker 2: felt for him.
- 30:41Speaker 1: We're only separated by a couple of the genomes there.
- 30:44Speaker 1: But exactly it was carbon coppy. We all understood exactly.
- 30:52Speaker 2: We even went up to the a veternory clinic to
- 30:55Speaker 2: see if there was dire light for dogs.
- 30:59Speaker 3: So much we felt for this. Forekunt he was ribbons.
- 31:02Speaker 2: He was. To be fair, thank god he didn't have
- 31:04Speaker 2: a phone, because I'd say, we've been fucking the fear
- 31:06Speaker 2: would have been honest.
- 31:07Speaker 1: Sending pictures of his fucking lipstick rocket.
- 31:11Speaker 2: To be fair, it was too far, no, he all
- 31:13Speaker 2: he would have been able to do, is said like
- 31:15Speaker 2: because it was to that far back. There was no
- 31:16Speaker 2: real camera phones at the time. It was just you
- 31:18Speaker 2: would have to send the picture using like eboji dog cock.
- 31:26Speaker 3: That was the only other time I've.
- 31:27Speaker 2: Ever experienced what I think some of that that has
- 31:29Speaker 2: talked about their dogs robbin or hash and stuff like that.
- 31:32Speaker 3: But it was the only time I've ever experienced DRUMK.
- 31:34Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you one thing. I'd take my chances
- 31:36Speaker 1: with fermented apples laying rotted hum and e's an apple tree,
- 31:39Speaker 1: then I would with a three leader of fucking scrumpy jack.
- 31:41Speaker 2: That.
- 31:41Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you that much now, because I remember
- 31:44Speaker 1: there's a segway coming here to my I feeded that
- 31:47Speaker 1: drink before myself, and you and I both remember a
- 31:50Speaker 1: whole bunch of shit. Because both Tom and I are
- 31:53Speaker 1: whistling through our forties as we speak, I'm telling you
- 31:58Speaker 1: we've We've seen a lot of shit coming, a lot
- 31:59Speaker 1: of shit go on our time on this course at
- 32:01Speaker 1: fucking Rock, Tom through what we call the fulcrum of life.
- 32:05Speaker 1: We talk about it in the final sigment of the show,
- 32:08Speaker 1: which we call we Remember When.
- 32:12Speaker 2: When I was a young lad twenty or thirty or
- 32:14Speaker 2: forty years ago.
- 32:16Speaker 1: We remember a lot of things Tom. This one we
- 32:18Speaker 1: remember from because it's in the news more or less,
- 32:23Speaker 1: Stephen's Green Shopping Center. Everybody's losing the mind about Steven's
- 32:26Speaker 1: Green Shoping Center. And we were going to have it
- 32:28Speaker 1: as the as the big news this week.
- 32:30Speaker 2: But they're very sentimental in Dublin, aren't they. When it
- 32:33Speaker 2: comes to structures, and.
- 32:34Speaker 1: You know what I'm going to tell you, and we
- 32:36Speaker 1: probably won't get too much into whether or not they
- 32:38Speaker 1: should leave Stephen's Green as it is, Tear Stephens Green
- 32:42Speaker 1: down and build a new building fucking converted into a
- 32:46Speaker 1: cattle yard, resent and you could do with it. But
- 32:50Speaker 1: the fact that it is a shopping center, which people,
- 32:53Speaker 1: you know, people I think are losing the mind a
- 32:56Speaker 1: little bit and they're forgetting that this isn't you know
- 32:59Speaker 1: Michael Collins home.
- 33:01Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not Christ ripping it down like you know.
- 33:03Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's not St Patrick's spot like that.
- 33:07Speaker 1: This is a shopping center.
- 33:09Speaker 2: It's never for anybody who's never been there, you kind
- 33:11Speaker 2: of go, what's it's slapped right, slap bang in the
- 33:14Speaker 2: city center at the top of Grafton Street, and it
- 33:17Speaker 2: had it it would when you walk into it. There
- 33:20Speaker 2: are like you'd see the girders and stuff like that
- 33:23Speaker 2: are more decorative and there's a bit no Art nouveau
- 33:27Speaker 2: and you know, it's a bit stylish, but at the
- 33:30Speaker 2: same time looks quite fucking dated. So you could you
- 33:33Speaker 2: could see it coming from a mile off because there's
- 33:35Speaker 2: the units shutting down it isn't fit for purpose in
- 33:39Speaker 2: a lot of ways. But people have their you know,
- 33:43Speaker 2: like they pull big fucking towers and stuff there. People
- 33:45Speaker 2: like what they're like, and you know, there's nostalgy.
- 33:48Speaker 1: There's a lot to be said, you know, there's nostalgia. Yeah,
- 33:51Speaker 1: and then there's like, well, let's stop letting these cons
- 33:53Speaker 1: come into our country and level all their buildings and
- 33:57Speaker 1: put up hotels. Like putting another fucking modern there doesn't
- 34:01Speaker 1: do anything. No, I I agree with that, and I'm
- 34:04Speaker 1: okay with that.
- 34:05Speaker 2: And the plan is, the plan, it would seem, is
- 34:07Speaker 2: to they're gonna know, they're gonna stink one hundred million
- 34:11Speaker 2: into this and has to turn make it another bit
- 34:15Speaker 2: of a shopping center, put a cinema in there, put
- 34:19Speaker 2: commercial space in the way of office spaces, so they
- 34:22Speaker 2: reckon there will be three thousand employees working the spot,
- 34:25Speaker 2: so you know, and it's to be developed by the owners,
- 34:28Speaker 2: the owners of ours. So it's not actually a crowd
- 34:30Speaker 2: sailing in which.
- 34:31Speaker 1: Is which is there's something to be said for that,
- 34:33Speaker 1: Like you know, I mean to say, like someone's going
- 34:35Speaker 1: to fucking grab that little bit of audio of me
- 34:38Speaker 1: and it will be is many like there's too many
- 34:40Speaker 1: cans coming into this country and no I like it.
- 34:42Speaker 1: I left right. I mean to say developers, I mean
- 34:45Speaker 1: to say, developer, you're dead writer and this writing podcast
- 34:50Speaker 1: should fucking I don't know. Maybe we'll get maybe we'll
- 34:52Speaker 1: get a huge listenership. Pump out of may tell me
- 34:55Speaker 1: so real quick.
- 34:56Speaker 3: But it is owned.
- 34:57Speaker 2: It's just to give people a quick insight in case
- 34:59Speaker 2: they're going, is this you know, because it has happened
- 35:02Speaker 2: where vulture groups will just come in. This place wasn't
- 35:04Speaker 2: going backwards. It was doing fine, but it's time for
- 35:07Speaker 2: fucking agussie up. Essentially is what it's getting it. That's
- 35:10Speaker 2: what it's getting. And I would have no doubt Dublin
- 35:13Speaker 2: City counter Council have preservation orders put on all sorts
- 35:17Speaker 2: in that thing, like you know, down to the metalwork
- 35:19Speaker 2: and stuff inside that it will have to be graciously
- 35:22Speaker 2: done up now. It will probably get done for one
- 35:25Speaker 2: hundred million and not one of these public.
- 35:27Speaker 3: Works jobs that's going on at the minute.
- 35:28Speaker 2: Because if it's getting done by the people who own it,
- 35:31Speaker 2: your it's going to come in on fucking But because
- 35:35Speaker 2: it's now this May, I don't want to rankle your
- 35:38Speaker 2: feathers immediately, right, But I'm.
- 35:40Speaker 3: Just going to give you who owns it.
- 35:41Speaker 2: It's a company called d T d L d T
- 35:46Speaker 2: d L which stands for something to do It dush
- 35:50Speaker 2: nook licking house.
- 35:52Speaker 3: Right. It is a British Virgin Islands registered property in
- 35:59Speaker 3: hold on hold on, hold on hold on hold on.
- 36:01Speaker 1: The isle man sitting right there, like.
- 36:03Speaker 2: At least it would seem when you dig down a
- 36:07Speaker 2: little bit. It's linked to the wealth management firm called Davy.
- 36:13Speaker 3: Division of BANKIPI.
- 36:14Speaker 2: The ultimate beneficial owners are shielded by the corporate structure,
- 36:20Speaker 2: which is a smart thing to do. Right.
- 36:22Speaker 3: You're going, who what.
- 36:25Speaker 1: It's going to be like the fucking frog from Danger Mouse.
- 36:27Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just feeling back.
- 36:30Speaker 2: But cor profilings linked this director high profile business figures. Ah,
- 36:38Speaker 2: Timothy out Away, all right, a guy called Timothy Outaway.
- 36:41Speaker 2: And you're like and Ornolf lob blaken right, and you
- 36:46Speaker 2: go after fox, say who are these two bastards? Well?
- 36:49Speaker 3: I think the lads are just suits who are.
- 36:53Speaker 2: Basically shielding JP McMahon's and John mcneer because that's who
- 36:58Speaker 2: fucking owns it.
- 37:00Speaker 3: Had a tip then now here's the.
- 37:02Speaker 1: Thing, right, people are listening to us going about since
- 37:05Speaker 1: Stephen's Green Shopping Center, and they're probably thinking one thing, Tom,
- 37:07Speaker 1: They're probably thinking, I'm not hearing a lot of remembrance
- 37:10Speaker 1: stuff going on that we remember when true. I just
- 37:12Speaker 1: wanted to get it, just just to set up because
- 37:16Speaker 1: when we say people are acting like to Stephen's Green
- 37:18Speaker 1: is just like, oh, it's like the Crystal Palace over
- 37:20Speaker 1: in London. It's this incredible long standing thing has been
- 37:23Speaker 1: there for hundreds of years. Now. The pull of the
- 37:25Speaker 1: time Stephens Green is built in their lifetime.
- 37:28Speaker 2: Tom to us, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's not
- 37:31Speaker 2: get it get ahead of ourselves.
- 37:32Speaker 3: I don't know what the building was before, but it was.
- 37:35Speaker 1: It was nothing. It was it was it was flat
- 37:36Speaker 1: ground and a car park coming in there, and the
- 37:41Speaker 1: things it was cut from whole cloth. There might have
- 37:43Speaker 1: been some sort of cattle mart or some such there.
- 37:46Speaker 1: But when I say since Stephen's Green Shopping Center was
- 37:49Speaker 1: built in their lifetimes, Tom, I'm saying that pretty much
- 37:51Speaker 1: every shopping center in the country was built in their lifetimes.
- 37:54Speaker 1: This is a relatively new phenomenon that as most of
- 37:58Speaker 1: the things are that we talk about it on this
- 38:00Speaker 1: final segment, it's a phenomenon that reached a peak during
- 38:04Speaker 1: our formative years. We've watched it come from its infancy
- 38:08Speaker 1: to its zenith, and then we've just watched the die
- 38:10Speaker 1: off over twenty years. That's what we've done with shopping centers.
- 38:13Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, Like I know the very first one
- 38:17Speaker 2: that was deemed a shopping center and it's still there.
- 38:19Speaker 2: It's the still Organ Shopping Center in South Dublin. And
- 38:23Speaker 2: you would say shopping center, but it's not kind of
- 38:25Speaker 2: all in one roof. It's it's like a bunch of
- 38:28Speaker 2: strip malls.
- 38:29Speaker 1: I guess you'd call strip malls in America, because even
- 38:31Speaker 1: the male culture in America is a very sort of
- 38:33Speaker 1: late seventies, early ages. It used to be the high street.
- 38:38Speaker 1: You would go to a town, yeah yeah, and everything
- 38:41Speaker 1: you needed was in that town.
- 38:42Speaker 3: Which was on that main street. Yeah.
- 38:45Speaker 1: More people, more cars, less parking, clutter, crashes, all this
- 38:50Speaker 1: kind of crack. So what happened not just in Ireland,
- 38:53Speaker 1: not in a phenomenon, but everywhere They started to build
- 38:56Speaker 1: these massive shopping centers, which was basically following the template
- 39:01Speaker 1: of putting in a massive grocery shop, the supermarket. Yeah,
- 39:05Speaker 1: as the anchor anchor tenant and then surrounding that with
- 39:10Speaker 1: a bunch of shit that you could do while they
- 39:12Speaker 1: were there. And here was the good thing I felt
- 39:13Speaker 1: about shopping centers, Tom, is that they put in the
- 39:16Speaker 1: grocery store. Again, this is Ireland in the eighties. They
- 39:19Speaker 1: put in the grocery store for mam to go and
- 39:22Speaker 1: do the shopping there, and they surrounded it with a
- 39:25Speaker 1: bunch of shops and a bunch of things that the
- 39:27Speaker 1: rest of the family could enjoy.
- 39:29Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 39:29Speaker 1: So it was like man goes to the shops, Dad
- 39:32Speaker 1: goes to get the get his haircut at the barbers,
- 39:34Speaker 1: or goes to the butchers or whatever. Yeah, the kids
- 39:36Speaker 1: can go to the bookshop or the tie shop, or
- 39:38Speaker 1: the Golden record shop or or the ear Pierson place
- 39:44Speaker 1: or the poster shop. Tom. So it was like fun
- 39:47Speaker 1: for all the family for an hour and a half
- 39:49Speaker 1: while man was in filling the trolley. Yeah back Yeah.
- 39:51Speaker 1: Free parking, remember, free parking, that.
- 39:54Speaker 3: Was the thing.
- 39:55Speaker 2: One time I got so stung. The other night I
- 39:57Speaker 2: fucking nearly passed out.
- 39:58Speaker 3: But anyway, wants.
- 39:59Speaker 1: Christ and and there it was. And we had a
- 40:01Speaker 1: hot run of that from the eighties into the nineties
- 40:05Speaker 1: of the of the classic shopping center. Now, did you
- 40:09Speaker 1: have one at home?
- 40:11Speaker 2: I know, I know we talked briefly about No, we didn't.
- 40:14Speaker 2: We didn't at all.
- 40:17Speaker 3: We had like this.
- 40:18Speaker 2: The high street was and it's still the high street
- 40:20Speaker 2: in Tipperary and it's it's same in care klan Mel
- 40:24Speaker 2: No high street was is still the way of it.
- 40:26Speaker 2: Now there's a there's a very small shopping center called
- 40:30Speaker 2: Done what used to be the showgrounds, and.
- 40:35Speaker 3: I mean it's a small one. The anchor shopping a
- 40:38Speaker 3: t K Max, you know what I mean.
- 40:39Speaker 2: There's an M and S. There's a little bit M
- 40:42Speaker 2: and S. There's a couple of more things in there,
- 40:44Speaker 2: but like the you know, I ain't bring my kid
- 40:47Speaker 2: in there to fucking burn through two hours because he like,
- 40:50Speaker 2: there'll be a couple he'll just look at the car
- 40:52Speaker 2: racing thing where you put to your by the way,
- 40:57Speaker 2: you know, and he looked at that thing or whatever
- 40:59Speaker 2: that's about the size of it. But he's bored that.
- 41:01Speaker 2: I was fucking mind the second we walk in there
- 41:02Speaker 2: is like I had things in here. It's like, no,
- 41:05Speaker 2: there's not not for me.
- 41:06Speaker 1: There's not the there was a shopping center and cart
- 41:09Speaker 1: and cross. But it was two separate buildings right connected
- 41:15Speaker 1: by an alley, right, so you know, for the longest
- 41:19Speaker 1: time you would you would be forgiven for thinking it's
- 41:20Speaker 1: just two separate things. But the big grocery end of
- 41:23Speaker 1: the thing was a whole building onto itself, and then
- 41:26Speaker 1: you cross the alley and in there there was an
- 41:28Speaker 1: extra vision and a butcher and a coffee shop and
- 41:32Speaker 1: through time a jewelry shop and all this and like
- 41:36Speaker 1: the record shop that I bought with forced ever recorded,
- 41:39Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Yeah, that's and it was
- 41:42Speaker 1: the shopping center.
- 41:43Speaker 2: Well there was I tell a lie back in the
- 41:47Speaker 2: boom of it all the late I suppose, middle nineties,
- 41:51Speaker 2: right onto the early two thousands, which is when Ireland
- 41:55Speaker 2: was really starting to wake up and people were making it.
- 41:57Speaker 2: You know, money was starting to come into the country.
- 41:59Speaker 2: And there was a suon Broo Quinn built and it
- 42:02Speaker 2: was the anchor to all this pedestrianized alleyway all around it,
- 42:07Speaker 2: and restaurants opened up and there was there was a
- 42:10Speaker 2: Golden discs or one of these HMV or one of
- 42:13Speaker 2: these was there as well. Now it wasn't all under
- 42:15Speaker 2: one roof, but it was. It was all brought together again.
- 42:18Speaker 2: Man could go in do the shot the shop and
- 42:21Speaker 2: I could go in, and I remember buying my first
- 42:24Speaker 2: I think I talked about it on this many as
- 42:25Speaker 2: the time, my first ever album. It was.
- 42:29Speaker 3: House of Pain, nice, fine mot lyrics.
- 42:33Speaker 1: Nice.
- 42:34Speaker 2: There was parental and your mama's kind of looking at me.
- 42:36Speaker 2: I was like madmasone super quien, go on, I don't care.
- 42:40Speaker 2: He wasn't much older than me.
- 42:42Speaker 3: The guy said, sit and.
- 42:43Speaker 1: Listen to it with me, mom and dad.
- 42:48Speaker 2: So it was but looking through it like I mean,
- 42:50Speaker 2: some monster. The ones came flying up.
- 42:52Speaker 3: That's the nineties.
- 42:53Speaker 1: Like the other one, the other one that we had
- 42:56Speaker 1: access to, and you've heard me talk about this before,
- 42:58Speaker 1: was the shopping center and and doc Old Dog Shop,
- 43:01Speaker 1: which I have so much fond memories of it, because
- 43:03Speaker 1: that really the morning charc was.
- 43:05Speaker 3: You know, yes, but it was small town.
- 43:07Speaker 1: It was like the road went inside for a little while,
- 43:09Speaker 1: and that was but the one in in in and
- 43:15Speaker 1: talk forget about it. It had like a huge crazy
- 43:17Speaker 1: prices and the Quinnsworld and what not three times, and
- 43:20Speaker 1: then all around it Carl's book Shop upstairs, all this
- 43:24Speaker 1: sort of crack record shops. I bought a fucking Nintendo
- 43:27Speaker 1: sixty four of there, Tom, this is what we're talking about,
- 43:31Speaker 1: and then the talk round about the mid nineties got
- 43:34Speaker 1: a second shopping center, and then in the mid two
- 43:37Speaker 1: thousands time this is what I want to. I want
- 43:39Speaker 1: to I've just been kind of making peace with this
- 43:41Speaker 1: myself throughout it all about not how we lost the
- 43:43Speaker 1: run of ourselves, but how something just kind of changed.
- 43:46Speaker 1: All right. It must be said that most of the
- 43:48Speaker 1: small of the shopping centers in Ireland up to this point,
- 43:50Speaker 1: and at this stage now, all of a sudden, you've
- 43:52Speaker 1: gotten the Ilac Center. I remember the I Like Center,
- 43:55Speaker 1: the square I do remember the Isle Center open and
- 43:58Speaker 1: the square in Taler, and these be advertised on the radio.
- 44:01Speaker 1: It's the Square Tala, like this Surcus is in town
- 44:05Speaker 1: and it's here to stay your ass.
- 44:07Speaker 3: Here.
- 44:07Speaker 1: We've got one hundred shops, five thousand car.
- 44:10Speaker 3: Parks, a less pyramid on top of it, and.
- 44:12Speaker 1: All this kind of crack. But I want to say,
- 44:15Speaker 1: please correct me if I'm wrong. I frequently am. But
- 44:18Speaker 1: for the most part of the mid nineties early two
- 44:20Speaker 1: thousands there thereabouts, that all or most of the shops
- 44:23Speaker 1: that were in shopping centers were locally owned. They weren't
- 44:27Speaker 1: necessarily franchises, so someone might have had a chemist in it, yes,
- 44:30Speaker 1: but you didn't have a boots yet.
- 44:32Speaker 3: I think you're right, I know what I mean.
- 44:34Speaker 1: It was sort of because o'mahan, o'man he did all
- 44:37Speaker 1: right for himself on the high street and then in
- 44:42Speaker 1: the shopping center and put in He's dread shop or
- 44:46Speaker 1: whatever it is, just needed the extra room.
- 44:48Speaker 3: I think you're right.
- 44:49Speaker 2: And I think if there was chains, you know what
- 44:51Speaker 2: I mean, like golden discs, they were Irish owned, if
- 44:54Speaker 2: you know what I mean. That's what I have in
- 44:56Speaker 2: my head. I don't remember a cost of coffee being.
- 44:59Speaker 1: There until until round about the mid two thousands, thousand
- 45:04Speaker 1: and five thereabouts. And I know the one that was
- 45:05Speaker 1: in the Dog was called the Marshes thousand and four
- 45:09Speaker 1: thousand and five. And I feel like a lot of
- 45:10Speaker 1: these jumped up around the time where these Okay, another
- 45:15Speaker 1: shopping center opened in your town which dwarfed the old one.
- 45:18Speaker 1: Forget about the old one for that place. This is
- 45:21Speaker 1: five times the size of it, and the shops of
- 45:23Speaker 1: it are even fancier. But at this stage now it
- 45:25Speaker 1: was franchises. It was hmv. It was boots, it was Pennies,
- 45:28Speaker 1: it was River Island man. Yeah, fucking yeah, this kind
- 45:34Speaker 1: of thing as opposed to Omahaney's drapery and the Bride's
- 45:36Speaker 1: electrical It was like up and up and up, and
- 45:42Speaker 1: then two thousand and akme Tom.
- 45:44Speaker 3: Yeah, the hole fell out of everything. Do you know
- 45:47Speaker 3: what it is?
- 45:49Speaker 2: If there was one thing in Ireland that absolutely mirrored
- 45:54Speaker 2: the economic carry on in Ireland? Do you know, like
- 45:58Speaker 2: we were people were getting like not everybody at a
- 46:01Speaker 2: car in the sixties and seventies, but as everybody started
- 46:05Speaker 2: to get cars, then the high street became a bollox.
- 46:08Speaker 2: You know, Yes, you got the high street now in
- 46:11Speaker 2: the UK, and they're typically pedestrianized and one is a
- 46:13Speaker 2: fucking horrific carbon copy of another one.
- 46:16Speaker 3: God, the UK allowed themselves to be absolutely molested.
- 46:18Speaker 2: It's one super drug after a fucking you know, spec
- 46:22Speaker 2: savor and it's just one carbon copy. You could literally
- 46:25Speaker 2: lift the plan out of you know, Bolton and drop
- 46:28Speaker 2: it into fucking Bristol. It looks the fucking same like.
- 46:33Speaker 2: But as well as people got cars, people got you know, modernization,
- 46:39Speaker 2: the high street became fucking be There's no parking. Now
- 46:41Speaker 2: we need to need a parking garage under our shop
- 46:45Speaker 2: or around our shop always we can put all the Okay,
- 46:48Speaker 2: So that's Ireland kind of getting a bit fucking We're
- 46:51Speaker 2: all have you know, the Ford Escort, you know, fucking
- 46:54Speaker 2: the you know whatnot and you know the the the
- 46:59Speaker 2: open Omega and whatnot.
- 47:01Speaker 3: We have the eighties.
- 47:02Speaker 2: Now we have supermarkets that are they have more than
- 47:06Speaker 2: the the news agents and butchers and so now we're
- 47:09Speaker 2: into that. Then you're into the nineties and we're starting
- 47:11Speaker 2: to get a bit of a notion of ourselfs Now
- 47:13Speaker 2: we're wearing nef jackets, you know, raver jeans.
- 47:16Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we're getting We're getting up. We're up.
- 47:20Speaker 2: I suppose what would you call us optimistic about our
- 47:23Speaker 2: future now, which is something we never wear. Mobile, Yeah,
- 47:26Speaker 2: upwardly mobile. We were never that in Ireland. We were
- 47:28Speaker 2: just fucking downtrodden down, beating people.
- 47:30Speaker 1: And more money to spend and we needed places to
- 47:32Speaker 1: spend it.
- 47:33Speaker 2: And by the time the you know, the two thousand
- 47:37Speaker 2: and one onwards, when I came back from America at
- 47:40Speaker 2: that time, I remember thinking, because we used to go
- 47:43Speaker 2: to this building called the Potential Building in Boston, not
- 47:46Speaker 2: to hang around because but it was it was, you know,
- 47:49Speaker 2: thirty stories of I'm guessing thirty stories of both office
- 47:53Speaker 2: and real real tale space. But they had a food
- 47:56Speaker 2: courtyard that I've yet to see to beat. It was
- 48:00Speaker 2: fucking brilliantly designed, all eating the one spot and put
- 48:05Speaker 2: all the different None of them seemed to be overly branded,
- 48:09Speaker 2: but all of the from the nations around the world
- 48:11Speaker 2: had different So you had Korean all the way through
- 48:14Speaker 2: the barbecue, you know what I mean, and everything in between.
- 48:17Speaker 3: They give away.
- 48:18Speaker 2: Loads of samples there nice so we would just clean
- 48:21Speaker 2: up on that scenario. But I came back to Ireland
- 48:23Speaker 2: and you're kind of gone, oh yeah, Well, of course
- 48:24Speaker 2: it makes sense that we felt good in America because
- 48:27Speaker 2: we're here now we've shopping centers. It's two thousand and one,
- 48:30Speaker 2: we're after the fucking races.
- 48:32Speaker 3: And then of.
- 48:32Speaker 2: Course by two thousand and eight, when the whole fell
- 48:35Speaker 2: out of the world, money wise, it fell out of
- 48:38Speaker 2: and we didn't know what it was to We thought
- 48:40Speaker 2: we were amazing for like seven years because we had
- 48:42Speaker 2: money and spending was gone crazy. But of course then
- 48:47Speaker 2: are fucking shopping centers. Nobody any shopping centers that were
- 48:51Speaker 2: planned completely ground at.
- 48:52Speaker 1: All, and any that were there at home they struggled.
- 48:55Speaker 1: I mean, I know in the talk there was you know,
- 48:58Speaker 1: there were pushing that we two shops centers, and then went
- 49:00Speaker 1: with three, and then went with four, and went with
- 49:03Speaker 1: five and then two thousand and eight height, and it
- 49:04Speaker 1: was like does this ten neat five fucking shopping?
- 49:06Speaker 3: So we could probably do with the one good week.
- 49:09Speaker 1: Time for the access swing here now so they're not
- 49:11Speaker 1: one putting a big tesco on stilts, and then so
- 49:13Speaker 1: one as a fourth Jimmy Quick Jody got married.
- 49:16Speaker 2: The the and then of course you had kind of
- 49:20Speaker 2: getting your like the lights of the Crumblin shopping Center
- 49:22Speaker 2: which became famous, like you know, which.
- 49:24Speaker 1: Is now a lot of the surviving shopping centers were
- 49:27Speaker 1: so old fashioned, yeah, that they became sort of meme
- 49:31Speaker 1: iratic center.
- 49:32Speaker 2: Yes, Like anyway, like I don't know if any of
- 49:34Speaker 2: the Facebook, I'm guessing they've stopped it now because here
- 49:39Speaker 2: we have found ourselves now in twenty twenty six, swinging
- 49:42Speaker 2: full circle, and I guess they're just kind of going,
- 49:46Speaker 2: you know what, I think there's the population is there
- 49:49Speaker 2: because the population has doubled in a lot of places.
- 49:52Speaker 3: Let's go again.
- 49:52Speaker 2: So they're building a big, fancy Krumlin shopping center now
- 49:56Speaker 2: right as his weak And.
- 49:58Speaker 1: This this, this brings us back around tom To to
- 50:02Speaker 1: the evolution of shopping centers. Godam, we've had a front
- 50:04Speaker 1: row seat for it all. I was never quite the
- 50:07Speaker 1: right age, in the right place to be the kind
- 50:10Speaker 1: of person that hung around the shop. And yeah, because
- 50:13Speaker 1: if he hadn't been living Dundalk when I was a teenager,
- 50:16Speaker 1: I would have hung around that place all fucking day.
- 50:19Speaker 3: Yeah, I can see it happening, all right.
- 50:21Speaker 2: And I think you know, we've definitely talked about our
- 50:23Speaker 2: childhood just not being that, and I don't.
- 50:26Speaker 3: I'm sure I probably would have.
- 50:28Speaker 2: Just it's not because there's shops there, because you would
- 50:31Speaker 2: have had no money.
- 50:32Speaker 1: You wouldn't had no money, But other kids.
- 50:34Speaker 2: Are going to be hanging around there, and it would
- 50:36Speaker 2: have been the cool spot.
- 50:37Speaker 3: And I'll tell you about one.
- 50:40Speaker 2: Where it's is it saying Paul Street or say I'm
- 50:44Speaker 2: nearly sure it's a It's a shopping center right in
- 50:47Speaker 2: the city center of Cork, about fifty meters off on
- 50:51Speaker 2: a pedestrianized section near the opera house and they actually
- 50:56Speaker 2: have technology j plase. Yeah, it actually plays a tone
- 51:03Speaker 2: that our ears can't hear. Anybody plus sixteen can't hear it.
- 51:09Speaker 2: Anybody's sub sixteen, It'll fucking send them away. It's like
- 51:13Speaker 2: scaring off pigeons.
- 51:14Speaker 1: I know the exact thing, tongue. And I'll tell you
- 51:16Speaker 1: one thing, now, can you Yeah, I've got I've got
- 51:21Speaker 1: mad ears here. Now I can hear that tone. And
- 51:23Speaker 1: I'll tell you what other tone I can hear. I
- 51:25Speaker 1: can hear the tone from the you know, the mouse
- 51:27Speaker 1: repeller that you plug into the wall. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 51:30Speaker 1: I can hear that as a tin foil on my teeth.
- 51:31Speaker 1: I fucking so yeah, it's it's it's it's maddening.
- 51:36Speaker 2: And then now that's an old shopping center. It's so
- 51:38Speaker 2: old that no, I haven't been on there and if
- 51:40Speaker 2: you've probably a year or two.
- 51:42Speaker 3: But the it's made.
- 51:44Speaker 2: From aluminium windows, if you get me, And the aluminium
- 51:49Speaker 2: is brown and the windows are brown tints, do you
- 51:54Speaker 2: get me?
- 51:55Speaker 3: Like it's propery, it's like proper.
- 51:58Speaker 2: And they haven't they haven't needed to up to change
- 52:01Speaker 2: it up at all, Like they're like, well, it just
- 52:02Speaker 2: funcus as it is, and I kind of like it
- 52:04Speaker 2: for that that it's a bit shite looking, you know.
- 52:08Speaker 1: Well, here's what I want to tell you. I want
- 52:10Speaker 1: to tell you about the finally evolution of shopping centers,
- 52:13Speaker 1: which is what is happening right now. This is the
- 52:15Speaker 1: last step of it. And I figure they're just doing
- 52:18Speaker 1: whatever they tend to exist as a thing. And if
- 52:21Speaker 1: this fails, Tom in ten your time, that's it. There's
- 52:23Speaker 1: nothing else to it. You'll find that the big shopping
- 52:25Speaker 1: centers that are happening now, and indeed, this is why
- 52:30Speaker 1: they're pulling down to Stephen's screen to do this kind
- 52:33Speaker 1: of thing. It's not a shopping center that you go
- 52:35Speaker 1: to buy things because you can buy everything you want
- 52:37Speaker 1: all online, and the people that would go to a
- 52:39Speaker 1: shop to buy a thing are dying off, or the
- 52:42Speaker 1: older generation and the younger generation, you and I when
- 52:45Speaker 1: we want to buy it online, simple as that. So
- 52:48Speaker 1: to draw people into a crowd, you need something that
- 52:50Speaker 1: you can't buy online. Okay, you can't buy a haircut online.
- 52:54Speaker 3: I've fucking tried.
- 52:55Speaker 1: So you'll always have room for a barbershop, You'll always
- 52:57Speaker 1: have room for a tattoo. Parallel or all this kind
- 52:59Speaker 1: of cracka and you'll always have room for restaurants. You'll
- 53:02Speaker 1: find that the New York shopping centers are the ones
- 53:06Speaker 1: that have destination restaurants in them, such as Nando's Orlans
- 53:14Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, you know Milano exactly. And it's this
- 53:18Speaker 1: kind of thing that you know that a lot of
- 53:22Speaker 1: the renovation that's going on up in our own beloved
- 53:24Speaker 1: Blancherstown Center up here is bringing in more and more
- 53:27Speaker 1: destination food places. Krispy Kreme came in a couple of
- 53:31Speaker 1: years ago, Tackle Bell, We're getting a fucking Popeyes. Popeye
- 53:35Speaker 1: is going getting a Popeyes. Checking see what I'm saying. Nothing,
- 53:38Speaker 1: there's nothing in the world would drag your ass tom o'man,
- 53:41Speaker 1: you know, to the Blancherstown Center to buy in it.
- 53:44Speaker 1: What would you want? Everything in this office, Jure has
- 53:49Speaker 1: been bought. Practically everything has been bought online, like down
- 53:53Speaker 1: to our microphones.
- 53:54Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean?
- 53:55Speaker 1: Like, I'll tell you one thing, Michael to Blanche for Popeyes.
- 53:58Speaker 1: If you're at that one.
- 53:59Speaker 3: This is the tea.
- 54:00Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying.
- 54:01Speaker 2: And they they're more and more they're putting like leisure
- 54:05Speaker 2: facilities to they'll.
- 54:05Speaker 1: Always get put in cinemas, and fucking.
- 54:09Speaker 2: You have to have the cinema, you have to have
- 54:11Speaker 2: a you know, they have a few things now that
- 54:14Speaker 2: have to be going on inside there, like to warned
- 54:17Speaker 2: people landing on into the place, exactly like you were saying,
- 54:20Speaker 2: the different foods, the different activities. Nearly is like you
- 54:24Speaker 2: need to create a bit of a fucking circus and
- 54:26Speaker 2: a bit of a.
- 54:27Speaker 1: Buzz and a coffee shop and all the kind of thing.
- 54:29Speaker 1: Because every shopping center we've talked about up to this point,
- 54:32Speaker 1: tom As you said yourself, the food court in America,
- 54:35Speaker 1: you've never seen anything like it, the food courts that
- 54:38Speaker 1: went in even to the Marshal's shopping Center in two
- 54:41Speaker 1: thousand and five and thereabouts. I'll tell you what it was.
- 54:43Speaker 1: It was a fucking subway and a bagel place. It
- 54:47Speaker 1: was like an aftertholl. It was like, yeah, yeah, we
- 54:49Speaker 1: put it there, and it's it's it's neither here nor there,
- 54:52Speaker 1: but we put it there and anybody, I suppose, if
- 54:54Speaker 1: they want, can go and eat it. It wasn't a case
- 54:57Speaker 1: of burger king wasn't going to fucking draw anyone to
- 55:00Speaker 1: the Marshess. Do you know what I mean?
- 55:01Speaker 2: Do you know it's nearly like if you think about it,
- 55:04Speaker 2: we're only I don't know, like America enough on this,
- 55:07Speaker 2: but fuck me, they are good at stuff.
- 55:10Speaker 1: And they have it down right, and they have seen
- 55:12Speaker 1: their own molds all day off.
- 55:15Speaker 2: The mall of America, you know, died and die the
- 55:17Speaker 2: death like until they started going. Hold on, let's look
- 55:21Speaker 2: five years down the line, where's the where's the mood
- 55:24Speaker 2: music going?
- 55:24Speaker 3: That's what do we draw people out?
- 55:26Speaker 2: Because it's just concrete and steel, that's all you're drawing
- 55:30Speaker 2: people too, So what have you got to put in
- 55:32Speaker 2: the thing to keep them interesting?
- 55:33Speaker 1: And if nobody's coming to buy CDs and records, maybe
- 55:37Speaker 1: they'll come to buy a five guys, do you know?
- 55:39Speaker 2: And also I remember there was a thing that Steven's
- 55:41Speaker 2: green I used to I went to Winda for something
- 55:44Speaker 2: one time. Oh there was actually somebody yet And this
- 55:48Speaker 2: is the thing that's probably going to pop up in
- 55:49Speaker 2: a lot of these now would be recording studios.
- 55:52Speaker 3: Do you know where It'll be hubs for stuff like that,
- 55:54Speaker 3: and work facilities I was going into.
- 55:57Speaker 2: Yeah, like you know those those offices that you can
- 55:59Speaker 2: rent for a week, you know, these things. You know,
- 56:01Speaker 2: if you're if you've got a Virgin Islands, fucking Cayman
- 56:04Speaker 2: Islands fucking fucking business that you need to fucking flood
- 56:08Speaker 2: some money through. But I went in there one day
- 56:10Speaker 2: on the way up to doing a I don't know,
- 56:13Speaker 2: a podcast or an interview for about something, and it
- 56:16Speaker 2: was no, it was a photo shoot I remember, for
- 56:18Speaker 2: a play there and they had a manicure fish manicure.
- 56:24Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 56:25Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a short lived phenomenon time.
- 56:27Speaker 2: There was a group of dudes sitting there kind of
- 56:30Speaker 2: and they were they were the guys, and they were
- 56:32Speaker 2: sitting there with their feet in And I'll be honest
- 56:34Speaker 2: with you my initial thoughts, and that make no bones
- 56:37Speaker 2: about this. My first thought was, well, that's the gayest
- 56:40Speaker 2: thing I've ever seen a bunch of dudes do together.
- 56:42Speaker 2: And I was so close to saying that out loud, like, dudes,
- 56:45Speaker 2: thebi gay dudes, think, cut.
- 56:47Speaker 3: That ship out.
- 56:47Speaker 1: There's gay porn. Is not this gay?
- 56:49Speaker 2: This gay dudes gonna cut that ship out? What the
- 56:51Speaker 2: fuck are you doing? Like? But you know what some
- 56:55Speaker 2: Asian lady, we made a clean fortune of those five guys.
- 57:00Speaker 1: Was talking about was those these wee fish actual living
- 57:02Speaker 1: fish that would chew dead skin off your toes. You
- 57:05Speaker 1: put your feet in a little fish and they come
- 57:07Speaker 1: over and you took out the cleanest, shiniest, healthiest feet
- 57:12Speaker 1: ever seen beforehand. And that lasted about five months when
- 57:16Speaker 1: people realized that this was basically a breeding ground for hepatitis.
- 57:20Speaker 3: This is how you got percent.
- 57:23Speaker 2: If anybody wants advice on how to peel the skin
- 57:25Speaker 2: off their feet, I'm pretty sure AI will find the
- 57:28Speaker 2: episode where Jerry talked about these pads. They didn't really
- 57:32Speaker 2: work for me that time, and I know I stayed
- 57:35Speaker 2: in contact with you that.
- 57:36Speaker 1: You put them on inside out down.
- 57:37Speaker 2: I probably did, and you were able to fucking mold
- 57:40Speaker 2: like a fucking python, but for some reason I didn't.
- 57:44Speaker 3: I don't know my.
- 57:44Speaker 1: Feet is the skin off Roy checking out.
- 57:46Speaker 2: I think my feet were just too fucking beating up
- 57:49Speaker 2: for it to happen. But you'll find out how to
- 57:52Speaker 2: do it safely in the company your own home, and
- 57:54Speaker 2: you don't need any fucking equal life, and you sure
- 57:56Speaker 2: shit don't need to do it with all your guy friends.
- 58:00Speaker 1: And you might not even need a shopping center. We'll
- 58:01Speaker 1: bring this full circle now, because I feel we're beginning
- 58:04Speaker 1: to ramble a little bit. Also the same time, I
- 58:08Speaker 1: will say this for the Sin Stephen's Green Shopping Center
- 58:10Speaker 1: and the rise and fall of shopping centers in Ireland
- 58:12Speaker 1: in general. And you know best look to any new
- 58:15Speaker 1: shopping center that's opening and you're gonna entice it in
- 58:18Speaker 1: by putting in a fucking wingstop or some stuff like that.
- 58:21Speaker 1: If you're charging me for park and go fuck yourself
- 58:24Speaker 1: number one straight away. I don't fucking care if you
- 58:27Speaker 1: have a Raisin Kenes, I'm not going all right. We
- 58:32Speaker 1: didn't get into it too much on St. Stephens's screen
- 58:34Speaker 1: because there is a lot of love for Sint Stephen's
- 58:37Speaker 1: Green Shopping Center among the fine people in Dublin. But
- 58:39Speaker 1: this segment is called we Remember When, And I remember
- 58:42Speaker 1: when I was up in Dublin when I was about
- 58:44Speaker 1: fifteen with the rest of the kids from school, and
- 58:47Speaker 1: we were pricking around and we went into Stephen's Green
- 58:49Speaker 1: Shopping Center and I needed to go to the toilet.
- 58:51Speaker 1: They wanted to charge me twenty p for and I
- 58:53Speaker 1: did not have it, so I had to fucking do
- 58:56Speaker 1: the walk all the way down to McDonald's at the
- 58:58Speaker 1: Botto McGrath Street. I'm concerned that Stephen Green can fuck off?
- 59:04Speaker 3: Say you really feel?
- 59:05Speaker 1: That's how I hold a grudge here on the Tom
- 59:07Speaker 1: and Jerry Show.
- 59:08Speaker 3: How do you folks feel?
- 59:09Speaker 1: Let us know in our social media pages. You can
- 59:12Speaker 1: find the Tom and Jerry Show at Tom and Jerry
- 59:14Speaker 1: Tom with a he, Jerry with a G. Get us
- 59:17Speaker 1: on Instagram and we will we will be happy to
- 59:21Speaker 1: have you as there. You can find me on Blue
- 59:23Speaker 1: Sky at Jerry McBride, Tom's haunt of choice his Instagram again,
- 59:26Speaker 1: get him over there on Instagram. A couple of questions
- 59:29Speaker 1: in on the Instagram for the good Tom Good Good good.
- 59:31Speaker 1: H Connor asks us real quick. Connor asks us, what
- 59:34Speaker 1: is the maddest Instagram ad you've seen? And I got mine? Tom,
- 59:39Speaker 1: what yours?
- 59:40Speaker 2: I got one selling me trying to sell me a
- 59:42Speaker 2: chainsaw from TIMU that you No. At first I thought
- 59:46Speaker 2: it was there's a couple of AI ones going around
- 59:48Speaker 2: with let to sit down. But it was a chain
- 59:50Speaker 2: saw that the whole shooting gallery came with it like
- 59:56Speaker 2: it would it would, it would run up a tree
- 59:58Speaker 2: for you, like.
- 59:58Speaker 3: The whole thing.
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: Oh you send me that, yeah, would.
- 1:00:01Speaker 3: Actually clam to it.
- 1:00:02Speaker 2: No, I sent you a shitty AI one right, it
- 1:00:05Speaker 2: wasn't the real thing at all, but this was one
- 1:00:07Speaker 2: that Timu were selling. And also Timu tractors have been
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: on advertised for some reason. I've late on continuously getting
- 1:00:15Speaker 2: plank tar antiitis of some sort of fucking thing. There's
- 1:00:19Speaker 2: some food insults that are going to give me that, Like,
- 1:00:23Speaker 2: I get all the kind of shit that I'm pretty
- 1:00:26Speaker 2: sure there are swimming blokes our age are interested in,
- 1:00:29Speaker 2: like jaw stretchers, fucking healthy breathers.
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: You know, all of that is All of that is
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: relatively straightforward, Tom, because we're older people and they would
- 1:00:38Speaker 1: be asking you do you want this for your hell?
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: Do you want ut for this? That and the other.
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: I'm getting ads to buy actual fucking amusement park rides
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: from China, like by Waltzers. Well, not a thing for
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: your waltz.
- 1:00:53Speaker 3: I'm a waltzer.
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: Hold on, I hope you fucking have bought one.
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: I haven't, no, but I'm telling you then, can you
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: imagine all day.
- 1:01:01Speaker 2: And if you fucked out the kids trampoline, time to
- 1:01:03Speaker 2: fill that space with you want to go faster?
- 1:01:07Speaker 3: It's it's house in the street.
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: I don't know if you can see that there visit
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: China Arcade Factory.
- 1:01:14Speaker 3: I think we know where our live podcast is going
- 1:01:16Speaker 3: to be on.
- 1:01:17Speaker 1: Yeah, contact us now. Thank you for the question, Connor.
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: But yeah, there's a lot of match out there. We're
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: going to try and maybe find a few and throw
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: it up on the sofa.
- 1:01:27Speaker 2: After saying this out loud now near my phone, Thanks Connor,
- 1:01:30Speaker 2: I'm now going to get the Maddest ship show twenty
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: four hours.
- 1:01:35Speaker 1: Then William has said us a couple of a couple
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: of stories here that we're going to keep up, you know,
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: gonna be honest with you, William, We're probably going to
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: keep those for a future episode because the good ones here.
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: But he does ask has Jerry ever plugged poultry or
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: picked the mushroom?
- 1:01:48Speaker 3: I love just as that.
- 1:01:56Speaker 1: Would you like Tom's opinion on that?
- 1:01:57Speaker 2: That is a long term listener, if ever there's been
- 1:02:00Speaker 2: a long term listener.
- 1:02:01Speaker 3: God bless you because you know the fucking answer from
- 1:02:03Speaker 3: my wing.
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: Yeah, I've done neither of those things.
- 1:02:07Speaker 3: Never plucked the chicken.
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: But I'm soft hands. Maybe I'm soft hand.
- 1:02:11Speaker 2: What was it?
- 1:02:11Speaker 3: What was the question that plucked some poetry or or.
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: Or picked the mushroom? Common Monahan industries.
- 1:02:18Speaker 3: If you never picked a mushroom coming.
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: From Manah, like mushroom never picked me.
- 1:02:23Speaker 2: He knows I've done both right, and we're not even
- 1:02:26Speaker 2: famed for having fucking silver Hill with his Monahan Yeah ducks,
- 1:02:31Speaker 2: and you have Monahan mushrooms, Like, how have you done neither?
- 1:02:36Speaker 3: How did you side step both those industries? Just even
- 1:02:38Speaker 3: for the just for National Pride, County Pride? Did you
- 1:02:42Speaker 3: not go?
- 1:02:42Speaker 2: Is there not like an initiation when you go into
- 1:02:45Speaker 2: secondary school for the first time where they take you
- 1:02:47Speaker 2: out for the day to pluck a duck And.
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: The only explanation, Tom, is that as a young man,
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: I was quite useless. Okay, Tom, what do we want
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: these fine people to do?
- 1:03:01Speaker 2: Do exactly what you just to keep us sending and
- 1:03:04Speaker 2: stuff like that. You Instagram is probably the best place.
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: Jerry is great on the Instagram, and keep following the
- 1:03:09Speaker 2: stories because stuff that we haven't even just brought up
- 1:03:11Speaker 2: but are pure us.
- 1:03:12Speaker 3: Jerry just bangs out some.
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: Good find one place for the keeping them out there.
- 1:03:18Speaker 2: If you can follow us on whatever platform you're on
- 1:03:20Speaker 2: right now and hit the hit the notification device, whatever
- 1:03:23Speaker 2: it is, whether it's a bell, I'm not sure what
- 1:03:25Speaker 2: it is on Apple podcasts you can you can now
- 1:03:27Speaker 2: leave comments I think on both. The only problem is
- 1:03:30Speaker 2: with Apple I can't see them. So if you screen
- 1:03:33Speaker 2: Rabbit and actually just tag it in the watchroom color,
- 1:03:35Speaker 2: or just go ahead and ask it in Instagram, that'll
- 1:03:37Speaker 2: be mighty. If you can give us the five stars
- 1:03:39Speaker 2: a couple of years, give it to us. Last week
- 1:03:42Speaker 2: we pumped up. We are still Rocking five stars just
- 1:03:45Speaker 2: makes it more visible to everybody.
- 1:03:46Speaker 1: Reminding people Tom. I don't think we've reminded them in
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: a while. It's not a vanity thing asking you for
- 1:03:50Speaker 1: five stars. It bunch us up in the rankings. You know.
- 1:03:53Speaker 1: He don't send four stars with notes for where we
- 1:03:56Speaker 1: can improve.
- 1:03:57Speaker 2: It's not we can do about it. We can do
- 1:03:59Speaker 2: about it us to make it more available, and I
- 1:04:01Speaker 2: will because we're coming up on it, and she's long
- 1:04:04Speaker 2: surpassed her goal, but she's got At the Care Wellness
- 1:04:08Speaker 2: Festival next month, Natasha is going to be cutting our
- 1:04:10Speaker 2: hair in front of maybe two thousand people at the
- 1:04:14Speaker 2: Care Wellness Festival. So there is still the I donate link.
- 1:04:18Speaker 2: You can find it through my page and go ahead
- 1:04:20Speaker 2: if you can, or just share it with everybody because
- 1:04:22Speaker 2: it is for the Laurelin and the little princess trust
- 1:04:26Speaker 2: or the nature. I'd say I have a couple of
- 1:04:27Speaker 2: goats that are fairly thick with me because the electricity
- 1:04:29Speaker 2: went there a while ago, and you know they like.
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: The electricity went Tell me you fraid the rude, like
- 1:04:35Speaker 1: the fucking raptor fences went down.
- 1:04:37Speaker 2: Do you know?
- 1:04:38Speaker 1: You never know? Listen, give them a couple of fermented apples.
- 1:04:41Speaker 1: They'll be grand.
- 1:04:41Speaker 3: I got them.
- 1:04:42Speaker 1: Good luck, good luck,