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Speaker 1: Peto Krandler live on Skyins Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the show. Here's what's coming up
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Speaker 2: tonight on Kredlin. Well, despite all the promises from labor,
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Speaker 2: our population today has hit twenty seven million, with migrations
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Speaker 2: still running at record levels despite our housing crisis. Former
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Speaker 2: UK Prime Minister List Trust will join me tonight. She
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Speaker 2: calls out the net zero obsessions and tackles the very
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Speaker 2: topical issue with transactivism eroding the rights of women is
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Speaker 2: more redeeming. Today spent another day in the witness box
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Speaker 2: in a defamation trial against Liberal leader John Pezuto. Unemployment
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Speaker 2: numbers out today, I mean are cut to interest rates
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Speaker 2: likely to remain off the table, But not in the
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Speaker 2: United States, where the Fed cut rates overnight. Any wonder
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Speaker 2: even a union Worlty like Bill Kelty are calling out
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Speaker 2: Labour's lack of an economic plan. Plus a shocking interview
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Speaker 2: today the Prime Minister on the ABC where he showed
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Speaker 2: yet again his economic ignorance and condemnation as Australia of
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Speaker 2: stains on a key UN vote over Palestine despite the
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Speaker 2: fact it failed the motion to condemn hermus and more
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Speaker 2: on those deadly device attacks another round targeting Hezbola overnight.
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Speaker 3: The government should have been voting with the US and
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Speaker 3: they should be condemning hermus Mus brutally slaughtered twelve hundred people,
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Speaker 3: and they still hold people in caves to this day.
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Speaker 2: At first, when you change the government, you change the country.
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Speaker 2: And on few things has labor changed this country more
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Speaker 2: than our attitude to Israel. Israel the only liberal democracy
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Speaker 2: in the Middle East, the only country where gay people
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Speaker 2: aren't threatened with death, where women have the same full
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Speaker 2: rights as men, where anyone from any religion can stand
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Speaker 2: for the parliament Christian Arab jew alike, and the only
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Speaker 2: country with a free media. And despite the fact that
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Speaker 2: Israel is fighting for its life against a series of
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Speaker 2: death cults led by Iran that just under a year
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Speaker 2: ago faced a terrorist invasion that slaughtered some twelve hundred women,
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Speaker 2: children and babies and took many more as hostages. Australia's
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Speaker 2: all but hung Israel out to dry in a UN
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Speaker 2: vote overnight. Unlike the United States, which voted to reject
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Speaker 2: the motion drafted by the Palestinian authority, Australia shamefully abstained.
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Speaker 2: But the worst thing about our abstention is that the
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Speaker 2: government actually wanted to vote for the motion. Indeed, the
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Speaker 2: Albanezer government was quite explicit it wanted to support the
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Speaker 2: motion and worked with the Palestinian authority on amendments to
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Speaker 2: make the resolution better reflect the highly suspect recent advisory
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Speaker 2: judgment of the International Court of Justice. Here's Petty Wong
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Speaker 2: sending a very coded message of appeasement to radical Islamists.
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Speaker 4: We worked very hard in New York with others, including
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Speaker 4: the Palestinian delegation, to seek amendments that would enable us
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Speaker 4: to support it as we did the recognition vote.
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Speaker 2: And here's our UN ambassador on all the actions Australia
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Speaker 2: has already taken against Israel.
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Speaker 5: We have affirmed that Israeli settlements in the occupied Palestinian
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Speaker 5: territories are illegal. We have sanctioned extremist Israeli settlers. We
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Speaker 5: doubled our funding to Andra. We have not supplied weapons
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Speaker 5: to Israel.
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Speaker 2: It's also very different, isn't it from the time of
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Speaker 2: Bob Hawk, Labour's greatest leader, who said that if the
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Speaker 2: bell tolls for Israel, it tolls for all mankind. But
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Speaker 2: perhaps the most perplexing and disturbing development from the Albanese
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Speaker 2: government today is its criticism of the brilliantly executed and
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Speaker 2: precisely targeted attack on Hezebelah operatives. For months, the government
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Speaker 2: has been complaining about airstrikes on Gaza that it said
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Speaker 2: were indiscriminately killing civilians, even though Israel's been much more
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Speaker 2: fastidious about civilian casualties than say, the Bomber Command was
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Speaker 2: in the Second World War, which thousands of Australians quite
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Speaker 2: rightly served. The genius of Israel's recent strike against the
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Speaker 2: listed terror group Hezbela is that it used the pages
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Speaker 2: that Hesbelah had itself distributed to leaders and key operatives.
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Speaker 2: If it's legitimate to target terrorists waging war against your country,
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Speaker 2: which it clearly is, this was a strike of absolute
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Speaker 2: pinpoint accuracy because hez Balar itself had identified the targets
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Speaker 2: by giving them the pages. And it was also a
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Speaker 2: minimum force strike that disabled rather than killed, most of
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Speaker 2: those hit. But he is a government minister today, Bealanderry
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Speaker 2: McCarthy blaming Israel for this successful mission rather than the
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Speaker 2: terror group that made it all necessary. McCarthy said, and
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Speaker 2: I quote, it's incredibly alarming in terms of the way
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Speaker 2: it's occurring to hear the news yesterday of what's occurred.
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Speaker 2: Now this morning we're hearing different news. Obviously, our concern
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Speaker 2: as the Australian government is to see a de escalation
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Speaker 2: of tension in the region. Senator, the best way to
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Speaker 2: de escalate tension would be for hez Bular and Hamas
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Speaker 2: to recognize the state of Israel and stop randomly killing
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Speaker 2: Jewish people. I mean, honestly, the sooner we can have
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Speaker 2: an election, the better. And look another day of cross
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Speaker 2: examinations of Victorian MP Moradeemi in her defamation action against
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Speaker 2: Liberal Opposition leader John at Perzuto. For much of the day,
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Speaker 2: the focus was on the various meetings held after she
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Speaker 2: attended the pro Women's rally, and Berzuto's barrister was relentless.
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Speaker 2: He's a smart man, sure, but often his time was patronizing. Here.
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Speaker 2: I was thinking, it's only in politics where some men
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Speaker 2: think it's okay to talk down to others. And in
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Speaker 2: the courtroom today there were plenty of mentions of emails
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Speaker 2: and text message exchanges that Mara had with the media,
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Speaker 2: including me. Now, I hope when her barrister gets time
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Speaker 2: in the court there's a similar focus on the material
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Speaker 2: that's passed between Perzuto, his office and his colleagues to
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Speaker 2: the media. Because some of what's been shown to me
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Speaker 2: on other people's phones directed at Deeming, well, it's been interesting,
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Speaker 2: to say the least, as was made clear in the
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Speaker 2: court today based on my emails and text messages. My
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Speaker 2: motivation in helping Moira has always been about justice and fairness.
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Speaker 2: It's always been about wanting to level up the odds
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Speaker 2: for the underdog, for a woman that had only just
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Speaker 2: arrived in the Parliament and was being done over by
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Speaker 2: a whole lot of more worldly operatives. It was a
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Speaker 2: pylon before this whole sorry episode. I never even met Murradimi,
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Speaker 2: but I watch what was happening after that rally. Indeed,
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Speaker 2: before I was in contact with her. I actually contacted
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Speaker 2: John Pezuto's chief of staff directly on that infamous weekend,
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Speaker 2: and I argue that trying to blame her the Nazis
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Speaker 2: that gate crashed the event was wrong and defamatory. Now
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Speaker 2: suffice to say, he didn't listen in much of this.
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Speaker 2: Deeming has been like a lamb to the slaughter, A
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Speaker 2: former teacher, a mother of four, who was always been
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Speaker 2: a warrior for women's rights, and if you listen to
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Speaker 2: the court proceedings all this week at all times, she's
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Speaker 2: unfailingly polite and quietly spoken. Now, I've been on the
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Speaker 2: inside of the belly of the political beast for sixteen years. Myself,
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Speaker 2: I'd be a fraud if I said I cared about
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Speaker 2: women in politics and their treatment if I didn't do
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Speaker 2: what I could to ensure that Moira got a fair
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Speaker 2: goal in all of this, because I've never been one
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Speaker 2: of those who say women should support other women and
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Speaker 2: when they agree with their views, but then never do.
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Speaker 2: Despite misgivings about a case, and provided I could tell
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Speaker 2: my employer and Scott Morrison's office too, which I did.
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Speaker 2: I agreed to help Britney Higgins draft the terms of
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Speaker 2: reference into that landmark review into how female staffers were
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Speaker 2: treated in camera, live through it, and I knew the
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Speaker 2: system needed reform. Green's sedator Sarah Hanson young too when
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Speaker 2: she was defamed by David Laynhelm. She subsequently won the
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Speaker 2: law case a few years ago. I stuck up for
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Speaker 2: her because of what he did, in my view that
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Speaker 2: it was wrong. Later, she put my defense of her
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Speaker 2: on the front page of a book about the whole
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Speaker 2: incident where I said there's a lot that Sarah has
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Speaker 2: to say that I disagree with fiercely in fact, but
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Speaker 2: our battle is about ideas, not a gender, so I
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Speaker 2: equally support her right to speak up. Sparrah thought too.
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Speaker 2: Here for UK feminist Kelly J. Kean yesterday and again today,
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Speaker 2: it was like she was on trial, her reputation run
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Speaker 2: through the mill, despite the fact. Let's not forget that
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Speaker 2: John Perzzuto was forced to apologize to her just a
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Speaker 2: couple of months ago in order to settle her defamation
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Speaker 2: case against him. If only had done the same thing
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Speaker 2: to Deemi, we wouldn't have the Liberals on trial in court, now,
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Speaker 2: would we. All right? That's got a camberin now for
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Speaker 2: the headlines Skynier's political reporter Trinty Macintosh.
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Speaker 6: Australia's population has climbed above twenty seven million for the
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Speaker 6: first time. It's been driven largely by a rise in migration.
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Speaker 6: New data shows labor is not on track to limit
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Speaker 6: net overseas migration to its target in the last financial year,
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Speaker 6: the first three quarters of the year landing at three
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Speaker 6: hundred and eighty eight thousand. That's just seven thousand shy
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Speaker 6: of the limit with three months still yet to come.
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Speaker 7: We need to make sure that the numbers of migrants
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Speaker 7: that we have coming to Australia is sustainable and that's
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Speaker 7: exactly why we've taken a range of actions to bring
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Speaker 7: that number down. We're starting to see the results of that.
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Speaker 3: It's just not heading down. Like why does the government
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Speaker 3: say this? They keep projecting that the numbers will come off.
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Speaker 8: They don't. They keep increasing every quarter.
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Speaker 6: Unemployment remains steady at four point two per For the
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Speaker 6: second month in a row, more than three thousand full
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Speaker 6: time jobs were lost, while more than fifty thousand part
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Speaker 6: time positions have been created. The Opposition believes it's a
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Speaker 6: bad sign about where the economy is headed.
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Speaker 3: People are taking up part time jobs because they can't
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Speaker 3: afford to pay their bills under this government.
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Speaker 6: The government pointing to the positives.
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Speaker 9: What we are managing to do is to try to
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Speaker 9: land a decrease in inflation, which we have cut in half,
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Speaker 9: whilst continuing to create employment.
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Speaker 6: And the Prime Minister is on his way to America
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Speaker 6: for quad talks with the US, Japan and India.
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Speaker 9: This will be an important gathering. The priority is about
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Speaker 9: peace and security in the Indo Pacific.
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Speaker 6: Before jetting off. The Prime Minister was in Cans today
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Speaker 6: talking up new social housing projects alongside Queensland Premier Stephen Miles.
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Speaker 6: Tritty Macintosh Sky News Canberra.
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Speaker 2: What a busy day. Let's get into those headlines. I'm
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Speaker 2: joined down by media writer for The Australian, Sophie Ellsworth
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Speaker 2: and the Deputy executive director of the IP, Daniel Wilde,
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Speaker 2: who is in Cans. Welcome to you both. The APS
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Speaker 2: starter out today reports our population has surpassed the twenty
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Speaker 2: seven million mark for the first time in history. Now
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Speaker 2: that's due, of course, to another massive jump in overseas migration.
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Speaker 2: Despite all the promises to rain in migration, the government's
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Speaker 2: already hit ninety eight percent of its net migration target
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Speaker 2: for this fiscal year. There's still got a quarter to go,
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Speaker 2: meaning it's not going to get those numbers under control. Sophie.
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Speaker 2: In March alone, that March quarter, we saw migration eclipse
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Speaker 2: natural population growth by more than four to one. It's
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Speaker 2: not coming down, is it.
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Speaker 10: Well, it certainly isn't.
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Speaker 11: Peter and I guess the questions that need to be
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Speaker 11: asked is how is Australia going to cope with this?
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Speaker 11: We already have a housing problem, a supply problem, and
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Speaker 11: then looking at other things like infrastructure, hospitals, transport, public
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Speaker 11: transport roads. Except so, I really believe this will probably
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Speaker 11: be a hot topic in the run up to the
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Speaker 11: federal election because migration is always a controversial topic to
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Speaker 11: go into the election, and we know that Peter Dutton
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Speaker 11: speaks on.
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Speaker 10: This issue a lot, and it's also an issue that
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Speaker 10: we've seen overseas.
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Speaker 11: We've seen this issue with migration in America and in
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Speaker 11: Europe as well. So I think this will become more
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Speaker 11: and more critical as we lead up to the federal election.
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Speaker 2: Daniel Foreman, New South Wales Labor Treasurer Michael Kofta was
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Speaker 2: on with my colleague Andrew Bolt last night. He had
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Speaker 2: this to say.
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Speaker 12: This government has failed and it's not just Albernize. We've
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Speaker 12: always known he's not strong on policy. He's been a
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Speaker 12: slogan peddler for all the time I've known him. What
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Speaker 12: disappoints me is the treasurer of the federal Treasurer. I mean,
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Speaker 12: he's a bloke that did a PhD on Keating and
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Speaker 12: is systematically overturning every single reform of the Hawk Keening government.
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Speaker 12: As a Frankenstein government here a combination of Whitlam and
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Speaker 12: the worst elements of Rudd.
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Speaker 2: Whitlam and rud I'll tell you what you've been in
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Speaker 2: Cans today with the Prime Minister e Copter, from Bill
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Speaker 2: Kelty the other day and now you've got another Labour
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Speaker 2: man in Michael Costa. It's clearly not happy families inside
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Speaker 2: the ALP is it.
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Speaker 8: Well, that's exactly right, Peter.
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Speaker 13: I think a lot of the hard heads within Labor
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Speaker 13: have known that the government's been going south ever since
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Speaker 13: the Voice to Parliament referendum, which they lost by sixty
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Speaker 13: percent of Australians voting no to that.
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Speaker 8: It's been downhill ever since.
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Speaker 13: You know, when we look at the migration and housing crisis,
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Speaker 13: it continues to get worse. As you know, we've had
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Speaker 13: six consecutive quarters of negative per capita economic growth. That
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Speaker 13: is the longest the clients to living standards that Australians
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Speaker 13: have had on record, and those records go back to
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Speaker 13: the early nineteen seventies. As you just outlined earlier, the
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Speaker 13: figures out today just reinforce the fact that the government
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Speaker 13: is not in control of this program.
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Speaker 8: You know, we want to be a welcoming nation.
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Speaker 13: We want to be a nation can bring in more migrants,
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Speaker 13: but there's three things that need to be met. It
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Speaker 13: must be planned for, it must have the consent of
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Speaker 13: the community, and it must be targeted towards areas of
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Speaker 13: economic need.
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Speaker 8: That hasn't been happening.
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Speaker 13: Clearly, it hasn't been planned for because of the housing crisis.
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Speaker 13: The community no longer supports the mass migration program because
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Speaker 13: most want to cut, not an increase, and it's not
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Speaker 13: being targeted towards areas of economic need because we've still
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Speaker 13: got highly elevated levels of worker shortages despite almost one
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Speaker 13: point three million migrants entering on a net basis since
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Speaker 13: this government came in, not to mention all of the
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Speaker 13: social problems.
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Speaker 8: So look, things just get bad to worse on that front. Peter.
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Speaker 2: Other data out today, unemployment holding steady at four point
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Speaker 2: two percent for the month of August. That's pretty much
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Speaker 2: dampened any hope. We might have had an interest rate
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Speaker 2: cut from the RBA this year, but over the United
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Speaker 2: States overnight Fed cut rates by half a percentage point.
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Speaker 2: Inflation's cooling there. In the UK, they're inflation sitting at
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Speaker 2: just two point two percent now. We're the outliner here, Sophie.
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Speaker 2: But if you listen to Jim Chalmers, he says everything's fine.
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Speaker 11: Well they really have to do the government have to
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Speaker 11: say everything's fine, Peter, but it's clearly not. And that
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Speaker 11: interest rate cut over in America is really interesting that
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Speaker 11: it's dropped half a percentage point and now the focus
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Speaker 11: is on what the RBA will do. But the expectation
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Speaker 11: when they meet next Tuesday is that there will be
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Speaker 11: no rate cut. And as you know, we've had I
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Speaker 11: think we're up to thirteen rate rises, you know, in
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Speaker 11: recent years, and people are starting to turn to the
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Speaker 11: government and questioning why have we had so many rate
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Speaker 11: rises and why we know better off? Because that is
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Speaker 11: what we were promised at the last election. So this
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Speaker 11: is going to become more and more critical again in
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Speaker 11: the lead up to the election because people will start
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Speaker 11: focusing on what the government are doing and why are
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Speaker 11: we better off now?
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Speaker 2: It's very embarrassing for the ALP in Canberra and Melbourne.
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Speaker 2: An investigation Daniel by the Australian National Audit Officers found
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Speaker 2: that the Morrison government was warned by the Infrastructure Department
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one that Melbourne's beliegued suburban rail loop
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Speaker 2: did not and I quote, present a reasonable investment. The
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Speaker 2: business case was on the table requesting more than eleven
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Speaker 2: billion dollars from the Feds, it was missing information and
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Speaker 2: used a questionable methodology to calculate benefits for the project. Now,
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Speaker 2: despite all of this, Anthony Albeneazi still went ahead and
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Speaker 2: gave his mate Daniel Andrews over two billion dollars.
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Speaker 13: Well, the program's never stacked up, Peter. It's been a
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Speaker 13: disgraceful program and a waste of tax payers money. It's
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Speaker 13: not affordable, nobody wants it, and very few people would
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Speaker 13: use it if it ever were to come to fruition.
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Speaker 13: This was a political project, not an economic project, because,
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Speaker 13: as you know, high rise, high density apartments can be
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Speaker 13: built under the Victorian planning laws where there are train facilities,
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Speaker 13: and the idea was to get labor voters into liberal
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Speaker 13: seats and to turn those into labor seats.
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Speaker 8: So as a political project, not an economic one.
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Speaker 13: We know Victoria is by far the most indebted nation
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Speaker 13: in the country, highest taxes, fastest growing spending, and we
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Speaker 13: talk about the Victorian economy a lot. But this is
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Speaker 13: an issue for all of Australia because we know that
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Speaker 13: if Victoria goes down the rest of Australia is going
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Speaker 13: to pay, because there is going to be a bailout
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Speaker 13: of Victoria. It is also a lesson to all the
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Speaker 13: other states across Australia where if you keep having debt
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Speaker 13: fueled government spending, you will eventually have deep economic problems
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Speaker 13: where the government is no longer to able to guarantee
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Speaker 13: basic services.
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Speaker 8: So this is leading to.
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Speaker 13: A very significant not only state economic problem, but a
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Speaker 13: very big national economic problem. I think over the coming
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Speaker 13: couple of years.
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Speaker 2: The Productivity Commission I touched on this last night, but
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Speaker 2: I want to go back to tonight view Sophie. The
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Speaker 2: PC Commission says that low income faumily she gets three
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Speaker 2: days of free childcare a week, completely free. Others should
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Speaker 2: get an increase to their subsidy. It'll cost another five
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Speaker 2: point four billion dollars a year to the budget, on
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Speaker 2: top of the around fourteen billion we already spend on
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Speaker 2: childcare subsidies all the way along. So the only reason
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Speaker 2: the tax payer was supposed to put money into childcare
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Speaker 2: was that childcare got mum, mainly mum back into works
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Speaker 2: of boosted productivity, mum paid taxes, blah blah blah. If
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Speaker 2: they take away the activity test, so we're paying for
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Speaker 2: people who are staying home looking for their looking after
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Speaker 2: their kids. Well, that defeats the whole purpose. And if
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Speaker 2: we're going to do that, surely we should be giving
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Speaker 2: a payment to the parent and let the parents decide
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Speaker 2: whether they want to care for their own kids at home,
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Speaker 2: whether they want to give it to the grandparents to
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Speaker 2: look after their kids, or do what labor currently forced
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Speaker 2: you to do and put your children into unionized childcare.
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Speaker 10: Well, this is really important, Peter.
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Speaker 2: It's a critical point to.
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Speaker 11: Who can access this what is the test to access it?
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Speaker 2: Now?
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Speaker 11: I think many would agree childcare is extremely expensive and
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Speaker 11: a pretty tough cost for households, particularly those tossing up
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Speaker 11: whether it's actually financially worth bothering going to work or
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Speaker 11: are they better off staying at home looking after their children.
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Speaker 11: But at the end of the day, someone has to
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Speaker 11: pick up the bill for this, and it always comes
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Speaker 11: back to the taxpayer. So it all sounds very nice
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Speaker 11: free childcare, you know, you don't have to pay subsidies, etc.
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Speaker 11: But at the end of the day, there is a
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Speaker 11: burden on the Australian taxpayer, and already Australian's payer an
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Speaker 11: awful lot in tax so I think they need to
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Speaker 11: be clearer on the actual activity test relating to this.
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Speaker 2: Just quickly, Daniel, eighty two percent of CEOs out today
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Speaker 2: in a new KPMG survey, So they want their workers
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Speaker 2: back in the office. So we've seen this, all this
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Speaker 2: work from home junket come to an end.
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Speaker 8: You think, yeah, this is an interesting issue.
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Speaker 13: I think it is starting to come to an end
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Speaker 13: at leads to the extent that it has been in place.
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Speaker 13: I think you've got to get the balance right. Flexibility
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Speaker 13: is a very good thing, particularly for young families, but
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Speaker 13: I think it may have gone too far in one direction,
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Speaker 13: particularly for young workers who need to be in the
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Speaker 13: office to learn the culture, to learn from the more
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Speaker 13: experienced people that are around. So I think that it
21:19
Speaker 13: won't be the end of work from home, but I
21:22
Speaker 13: do suspect the idea that you're going to work from
21:24
Speaker 13: home one hundred percent of the time is quickly coming
21:26
Speaker 13: to an end.
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Speaker 2: Now I'm with you. I think good bosses have always
21:30
Speaker 2: been flexible. I think, certainly my experience, long before we
21:34
Speaker 2: even had the acronym work from home. I think good
21:36
Speaker 2: bosses were always pretty fair, but we can't all sit
21:39
Speaker 2: at home in our computers in our pajamas. Thank you both,
21:41
Speaker 2: enjoyed cans. I think it's warner up there than down
21:44
Speaker 2: here in Melbourne. See you both next week. All right,
21:46
Speaker 2: after break, another spate of explosions across Lebanon Lebanon, So
21:50
Speaker 2: what does this mean for a broader conflict? Does Hespela
21:53
Speaker 2: vows revenge on Israel? Plus a disgraceful abstention by Australia
21:58
Speaker 2: at the UN again we let is down and the
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Speaker 2: UN's appalling failure to condemn hummus. I mean we're only
22:04
Speaker 2: weeks out from the anniversary of those October seven atrocities.
22:09
Speaker 2: Plast that shockra of an interview today the Prime Minister
22:12
Speaker 2: caught out on the economic basis base six yet again.
22:20
Speaker 2: Coming out. We're going to cross live to the UK
22:22
Speaker 2: and catch up with former Prime Minister Liz Trusts as
22:25
Speaker 2: she takes on the energy fight, Avenet zero women and
22:28
Speaker 2: the pro Palace Didian mob in Britain. Plus a bit more.
22:31
Speaker 2: She's close to Donald Trump too, so let's get her
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Speaker 2: reaction to that second attempt on his life. But first,
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Speaker 2: there's been more explosions overnight in Lebanon. This time walkie
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Speaker 2: talkies used by Hesbellah have been the source of the blast.
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Speaker 2: At least twenty have been killed, some four hundred and
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Speaker 2: fifty wounded in the second wave. Joyed me now to
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Speaker 2: discuss this in more. Director at Strategic Analysis Australia, Michael Schuebreach, Michael,
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Speaker 2: thank you for your time. What do we know about
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Speaker 2: the latest attacks? And also I understand there's new information
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Speaker 2: about the page of bombings yesterday? What can you tell us?
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Speaker 14: Yes, well, Peter, it looks like these radio attacks walkie
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Speaker 14: talkie attacks are a follow on from yesterday's exploding pages
23:19
Speaker 14: because his boler was using these walkie talkies as a
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Speaker 14: fallback communications device, probably also because it was a use
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Speaker 14: it or lose its situation. No doubt his boller is
23:30
Speaker 14: paranoid about devices they thought would make them safe like
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Speaker 14: pages and walkie talkies, and now have shown have only
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Speaker 14: made them extraordinarily vulnerable. And on the pages, it looks
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Speaker 14: like this wasn't some sneaking into a warehouse to tampo
23:45
Speaker 14: with pages. It looks more elaborate and deeper like Israeli
23:49
Speaker 14: agencies might have set up a front company, and ha
23:53
Speaker 14: Boller actually ended up buying these pages and probably these
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Speaker 14: walkie talkies from the Israelis rather than another company. So
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Speaker 14: Hesbola were the customers of Israeli intelligence.
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Speaker 2: And I'll say this again because you could have been
24:11
Speaker 2: forgiven yesterday to have some sympathy for those attacked. I
24:15
Speaker 2: mean absolutely for the civilians injured as things unfolded. But
24:20
Speaker 2: if you listen to some of the media reports out
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Speaker 2: there yesterday, these were just innocent Lebanese civilians. They are
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Speaker 2: Hesbala terrorists, marked out by the fact that they had
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Speaker 2: these Hezbollah pages with them. The concern now is how
24:34
Speaker 2: Hesbela will react and please cover off Iran too. Where
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Speaker 2: might this go?
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Speaker 14: Do you think, well, there are two ways. So with
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Speaker 14: these attacks, they've followed on that killing of the Hamas
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Speaker 14: leader right in the heart of Tehran, and now these
24:54
Speaker 14: are lethal attacks focused right on the leadership of the
24:58
Speaker 14: Hezbollah terrorist organization. And at the same time Run's attacks
25:03
Speaker 14: on Israel and has Boller's rocket attacks have been successfully defended.
25:07
Speaker 14: So Israel is either setting the conditions if there's a
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Speaker 14: wider war to be in a bigger situation of advantage
25:15
Speaker 14: because it's disrupted the leadership of its enemies, or it's
25:19
Speaker 14: re establishing its deterrent power, saying to has Bolla and Iran,
25:24
Speaker 14: we can reach in and strike your leadership at will,
25:28
Speaker 14: and we can defend against the thing you thought gave
25:31
Speaker 14: you a huge advantage, your rockets and missiles.
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Speaker 2: Michael, let's go to New York to United Nations and
25:37
Speaker 2: this shameful abstention by Australia on this Palestinian motion. Here
25:43
Speaker 2: was Penny Wong trying to justify our position.
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Speaker 4: We would have preferred to have been in a position
25:50
Speaker 4: where we could support a resolution that reflected the International
25:52
Speaker 4: Court of Justice's advisory opinion, and we worked very hard
25:56
Speaker 4: in New York with other countries to try and get
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Speaker 4: changes to the resolution that would enable us to support it.
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Speaker 4: Unfortunately this was not the case.
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Speaker 2: I mean, this was as by the palacedin in authority.
26:10
Speaker 2: It's extraordinary we script it. And where was the condemnation
26:14
Speaker 2: in this Michael about Hamas? Where was the condemnation about
26:18
Speaker 2: October seven?
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Speaker 14: Yes, this resolution was calling on Israel to unilaterally withdraw
26:28
Speaker 14: from Gaza and the West Bank. It wasn't calling for
26:32
Speaker 14: anything for Hamas to do it was all on the
26:35
Speaker 14: israelis I thought our government's policy was a negotiated peace
26:40
Speaker 14: and release of the hostages abducted by Hamas. But it
26:44
Speaker 14: seems like the government's lost sight of the fact that
26:48
Speaker 14: this resolution is pretty much brought to us by the
26:51
Speaker 14: Hamas terrorist organization, and you cannot end this war simply
26:58
Speaker 14: by pretending that it's entirely up to Israel.
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Speaker 2: What about the news this morning that rather than sending
27:07
Speaker 2: out decommission but much needed military equipment to Ukraine instead
27:13
Speaker 2: were selling it for recreational use on some sort of
27:17
Speaker 2: eBay weapons website. I mean, are you kidding me?
27:24
Speaker 14: Yes, if the Defense Department that Richard Miles is the
27:28
Speaker 14: Minister of was an aeroplane, it would be one where
27:31
Speaker 14: the pilot was dead and the thing was flying on
27:35
Speaker 14: auto the autopilot. Because this policy of selling military equipment
27:42
Speaker 14: on vehicles that our military don't need anymore on online
27:47
Speaker 14: auctions and getting a buck for them made absolute sense
27:50
Speaker 14: before the Ukraine War. Now we know the Ukraine is
27:53
Speaker 14: a desperately short of exactly these kind of vehicles and equipment,
27:58
Speaker 14: and the Russians are using stuff that is much much older,
28:01
Speaker 14: very successfully, So obviously we need to switch off the
28:05
Speaker 14: autopilot and have Richard Miles say the Ukrainians get first
28:10
Speaker 14: right of refusal for anything. Our defense bureaucrats are thinking
28:14
Speaker 14: of flogging off, well.
28:18
Speaker 2: Turn off at them up on Burys. I mean, I've
28:24
Speaker 2: worked for a defense minister in the Howard era. I mean,
28:26
Speaker 2: this guy's unbelievable. We have that video out yesterday put
28:30
Speaker 2: out by the Chinese showing them flexing their muscle in
28:33
Speaker 2: the South China Sea, harassing one of our aircraft. We
28:37
Speaker 2: then have North Korea firing multiple ballistic missiles in the
28:41
Speaker 2: past couple of days, and he's wringing his hands, very
28:44
Speaker 2: very little to say on any of this stuff. All
28:47
Speaker 2: I said about the Chinese incident actually was that they
28:49
Speaker 2: couldn't verify the authenticity of the vision. I mean this
28:52
Speaker 2: is a joke.
28:55
Speaker 14: Yes, well, I think we've got to be kinder. I
28:57
Speaker 14: think he's following Penny Wong's orders. They are when you've
29:01
Speaker 14: got obvious, uncomfortable truths about Bei Beijing in the Chinese military,
29:06
Speaker 14: you need to be like the three wise monkeys. See
29:08
Speaker 14: no evil, hear no evil, Speak no evil, Because the
29:12
Speaker 14: main thing that this government wants to do is sell
29:15
Speaker 14: lobsters to Beijing rather than confront the problem of an
29:20
Speaker 14: aggressive China.
29:23
Speaker 2: And for former labor politicians to get on the Chinese
29:27
Speaker 2: gravy train as well. Michael shelwritz, don't forget that. Thank
29:30
Speaker 2: you for your time.
29:31
Speaker 8: All right.
29:31
Speaker 2: Just before we headed the break, jess a PM at
29:33
Speaker 2: a bad morning when he went on ABC Radio Today
29:36
Speaker 2: with Patricia Carvella, who, to her credit, asked him some
29:39
Speaker 2: very valid questions. First off, this one about negative gearing
29:44
Speaker 2: and changes to capital gains tax.
29:47
Speaker 15: Are you saying negative gearing and capital gains tax concessions
29:51
Speaker 15: are absolutely off the table for you.
29:54
Speaker 12: Well, they're tax policies.
29:56
Speaker 4: But are those tax policies?
29:58
Speaker 15: Are those tax policies com pletely off the table for you?
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Speaker 9: Well, Patricia, I don't answer the sort of those sort
30:06
Speaker 9: of questions in the way that goes yeah, that's a
30:10
Speaker 9: good question.
30:11
Speaker 15: Are you going to say no to those or not?
30:14
Speaker 9: There are things that journalists The next question is when
30:16
Speaker 9: will the election be?
30:18
Speaker 15: That's not my next question.
30:19
Speaker 9: Yeah, Well, they're not terribly clever questions.
30:24
Speaker 2: He didn't like that one, Didny If it was the ABC?
30:26
Speaker 2: Goodness me, it's telling that he wouldn't just say there
30:29
Speaker 2: will be no changes to negative gearing or capital gains
30:33
Speaker 2: tax because it can't. And then you've got to wonder
30:37
Speaker 2: how good a Graspy has about the state of the economy.
30:41
Speaker 2: But he was asked this question about the US FED
30:43
Speaker 2: cutting rates.
30:45
Speaker 15: Taking a long time and people are in a protracted
30:48
Speaker 15: period of pain.
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Speaker 9: That's correct, and that's a global phenomenon.
30:53
Speaker 15: Patricia Will in the US the cutting rates, Prime Minister.
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Speaker 9: Because the economy is so slow. That's why they're cutting rates, Patricia,
31:02
Speaker 9: and inflation.
31:03
Speaker 15: Their economic growth is higher than ours.
31:08
Speaker 2: Well, carve Ellis was right, not him. The US's growth
31:11
Speaker 2: rate is higher than Australia's. So is this just spin
31:16
Speaker 2: or ignorance on the Prime minister's half behalf? Given his
31:19
Speaker 2: track record on the economy, I'm tempted to say yet
31:21
Speaker 2: again he's just not across the detail.
31:25
Speaker 10: Mentioned the Reserve Bank earlier. Do you know the official
31:28
Speaker 10: cash rate off the top of your head?
31:30
Speaker 9: Oh, we can do the old old Q and a
31:34
Speaker 9: staff over fifty different.
31:36
Speaker 2: Are you just not going to answer those kinds of
31:38
Speaker 2: specific questions for this campaign? Not at all?
31:40
Speaker 9: What I was what I was not going to end
31:43
Speaker 9: enter into as an auction in terms of you know
31:47
Speaker 9: that tasmanly and unemployment rate and the various rates that
31:50
Speaker 9: are put forward. It's up to people to ask whatever
31:53
Speaker 9: questions they want. Andrew, what's the national unemployment right? National
31:57
Speaker 9: unemployment rate at the moment is I think it's five
32:03
Speaker 9: point for so I'm not sure what is.
32:09
Speaker 2: If you voted for him, you can't say you went warned.
32:11
Speaker 2: Michael Costa was right, wasn't he? He cares more about
32:14
Speaker 2: slogans than policy. All right, after the break, former UK
32:19
Speaker 2: Prime Minister Liz trust joins me. We'll talk about the
32:21
Speaker 2: first few months of the star of a government, the
32:23
Speaker 2: growing visions in the UK, over Gaza, her five for
32:27
Speaker 2: safe spaces for women, and the latest on a good
32:30
Speaker 2: friend Donald Trump. Last a bit later on the less
32:33
Speaker 2: importation of US style political tactics. This relates, of course
32:38
Speaker 2: to the Teals. Welcome back. I'm delighted to bring you
32:47
Speaker 2: my next guest, who I hope will be a regular
32:49
Speaker 2: here on Credline. We're going to Cross Live now at London,
32:52
Speaker 2: where I'm joined by former UK Prime Minister, the honorable
32:55
Speaker 2: Liz trust Well. I'm delighted to have you on the program. Liz,
32:59
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for making time for us tonight
33:01
Speaker 2: we go stronger audience here in Australia. Hey, first off,
33:06
Speaker 2: we'll talk about plenty of other things, but I want
33:08
Speaker 2: to get your take on the change of government because
33:10
Speaker 2: the Starma government already seems to have hit a few problems.
33:14
Speaker 2: Those cuts to the winter heating payments, plenty of tension
33:17
Speaker 2: on the streets, and now the PM even under fire
33:21
Speaker 2: for accepting free suits from a Labor Party donor. Voters
33:26
Speaker 2: would not be heavy. This isn't what they voted for,
33:28
Speaker 2: is it.
33:31
Speaker 1: No, And he got in with a very low proportion
33:34
Speaker 1: of the vote. He got in by default because people
33:37
Speaker 1: are unhappy with the Conservatives. They've aged Labor, they didn't
33:41
Speaker 1: particularly like him, and now it's gone from.
33:44
Speaker 10: Bad to worse.
33:45
Speaker 1: He's been caught accepting donations to pay for his wife's dresses.
33:50
Speaker 1: He's been accepting more freebies than any other MP in Parliament.
33:55
Speaker 1: But meanwhile, because of their disastrous economic policies, they are
34:00
Speaker 1: cutting payments to old people just as energy prices are
34:05
Speaker 1: going up here in the UK. So it's a disastrous
34:09
Speaker 1: start for his government because they came in with no
34:12
Speaker 1: ideas about what they were going to do. Apart from
34:15
Speaker 1: saying the Conservatives were evil, that was their only policy.
34:21
Speaker 2: Just on that point about energy, I want to ask
34:22
Speaker 2: you about their big push on net zero. What do
34:25
Speaker 2: you make of the fact that the West is basically
34:27
Speaker 2: with the industrializing ourselves while Russia and China are doing
34:31
Speaker 2: nothing of the sort. Now we've got plenty of global security,
34:35
Speaker 2: plenty of instability issues. I mean, this is madness. It
34:38
Speaker 2: feels like the nineteen thirties all over again.
34:42
Speaker 1: Well, it's it's economic self harm. It's unilateral economic disarmament.
34:47
Speaker 1: While India and China are building more cul fire power stations,
34:52
Speaker 1: getting more oil and gas, we in Britain have ended
34:56
Speaker 1: up closing down our oil and gas.
34:59
Speaker 10: This is what's happening on this labor government.
35:01
Speaker 1: We've just closed our last steel works producing virgin steel because.
35:06
Speaker 10: Energy is unaffordable.
35:07
Speaker 1: The British government is refusing to do fracking, which could
35:11
Speaker 1: make our energy cheaper, and it's a disaster. Our economy
35:15
Speaker 1: is stagnating. Meanwhile, China is selling our solar panels. I mean,
35:20
Speaker 1: why does that make sense? And the problem is we
35:23
Speaker 1: have a Labor Party now in government who are saying
35:26
Speaker 1: that climate change is more of a threat to the
35:29
Speaker 1: future of the world than China.
35:32
Speaker 10: Now that simply isn't true.
35:36
Speaker 2: In your new book Ten Years to Save the Worst,
35:39
Speaker 2: you point out that the unelected officials, that's called them
35:42
Speaker 2: the blob if you like that, they can sabotage the
35:44
Speaker 2: policy of an elected government. And why is this the case?
35:48
Speaker 2: Is it because ministers come and go but the officials
35:50
Speaker 2: are there forever or is it because too many ministers
35:53
Speaker 2: Elected ministers just like the courage to give directions to bureaucrats.
36:00
Speaker 1: Well, I think the problem in Britain has got much worse,
36:02
Speaker 1: and it got worse during the Blair government because he
36:06
Speaker 1: put in lots of legislation like the Human Rights Act,
36:09
Speaker 1: like the Equality Act that ended up tying politicians' hands,
36:14
Speaker 1: and we weren't brave enough to take on those ideas
36:17
Speaker 1: when we were in government, so we were boxed in
36:21
Speaker 1: by the Blairite consensus. And that's made it very hard
36:26
Speaker 1: for us to deport illegal immigrants.
36:28
Speaker 10: It's made it very hard for.
36:30
Speaker 1: Us to put in proper policies on women being women and.
36:35
Speaker 10: Men being men.
36:37
Speaker 1: And the problem is that in Britain the bureaucrat's power
36:42
Speaker 1: has grown over times, more power that used to rest
36:45
Speaker 1: in the hands of MPs now lies in the hands
36:49
Speaker 1: of the Bank of England or the Office of Budget
36:52
Speaker 1: Responsibility or the Migration Advisory Council, and you need a
36:57
Speaker 1: long time to fix those things. And you'll know in
36:59
Speaker 1: a parliamentary democracy like Britain or Australia, it just takes
37:03
Speaker 1: time to get the legislation through and it takes politicians
37:07
Speaker 1: with courage, and there has been a massive courage deficit
37:10
Speaker 1: on the Conservative side.
37:15
Speaker 2: Let's go to that vote of the UN overnight. The UK,
37:18
Speaker 2: like Australia, abstained. Yet when I look at the new
37:21
Speaker 2: Foreign Minister David Lammy's recent media focus, I mean he
37:24
Speaker 2: has put up bisexual pride flags outside the Foreign Office.
37:28
Speaker 2: He gave a great big speech on climate change. Now,
37:32
Speaker 2: given Ukraine, given China, given all the other issues that
37:34
Speaker 2: are on his play and the growing cultural divisions in
37:38
Speaker 2: the British community. We saw that play out in riots,
37:41
Speaker 2: surely his focus should be elsewhere.
37:46
Speaker 1: He's just he's massively out of touch with what normal
37:50
Speaker 1: people in Britain think. Here's part of an elite political
37:54
Speaker 1: class there is obsessed.
37:56
Speaker 10: With climate change. They don't like.
38:00
Speaker 1: Israel, they're pro Palestinian, they are anti they're anti the
38:08
Speaker 1: instincts the patriotism of normal British people, and he is
38:14
Speaker 1: governing in the interests of that group of people. It's
38:18
Speaker 1: the lawyers in London, it's the people working in the
38:22
Speaker 1: big corporates, it's the civil servants and the bureaucrats. And
38:26
Speaker 1: most people in Britain do not agree with these policies.
38:29
Speaker 1: And this is why this government is already very unpopular.
38:33
Speaker 1: You know, Keir Starmer's ratings have plummeted because they're seen
38:37
Speaker 1: as hypocrites. But they're also seen as representing a very
38:42
Speaker 1: narrow group of people who live in the big cities,
38:46
Speaker 1: who work for the public sector. They don't represent normal
38:49
Speaker 1: people across Britain who back Israel, who see China as
38:53
Speaker 1: a threat and want a strong foreign policy from Britain.
38:58
Speaker 2: Well, Kean all this, you know, the disenfranchised men of
39:01
Speaker 2: ordinary people. The waves and waves of illegal migration hitting
39:05
Speaker 2: the UK. We watch it in Australia. We know it
39:07
Speaker 2: can be stopped. But I get the sense that that
39:10
Speaker 2: Britain doesn't think you can get control of its borders again.
39:13
Speaker 2: I mean, can it get its borders back under control?
39:18
Speaker 1: We can, and we've seen what Australia did I met
39:22
Speaker 1: Tony Abbott on several occasions talking about his successful policies
39:27
Speaker 1: to get control of immigration in Australia, but there is
39:32
Speaker 1: not the political will to do it in Britain because
39:36
Speaker 1: we will have to dismantle a lot of our laws,
39:40
Speaker 1: like the Human Rights Act that Tony Blair brought in
39:43
Speaker 1: and Keir Starmer supports. Will have to dismantle those laws
39:46
Speaker 1: that essentially give more rights to people who are entering
39:50
Speaker 1: our country than people who are living in our country.
39:53
Speaker 1: And the problem is that the political class do not
39:58
Speaker 1: want to acknowledge how bad things are, and ordinary people
40:03
Speaker 1: across Britain see how bad things are. They can see
40:06
Speaker 1: that we don't have control of the votes. They can
40:08
Speaker 1: see that the borders in Britain are porous. But it
40:12
Speaker 1: will take a huge push to actually change that human
40:16
Speaker 1: rights legislation that has now been in since the nineteen nineties,
40:21
Speaker 1: and that is what we need to do, and I
40:22
Speaker 1: think pressure in Britain is building for that.
40:25
Speaker 10: You'll have seen that the election Nigel.
40:27
Speaker 1: Farage and Reform got a large vote because people are frustrated,
40:32
Speaker 1: but the message is still not hit home and our
40:35
Speaker 1: politicians aren't prepared to do what it takes.
40:40
Speaker 2: Just quickly. I watched your Twitter faedure in the Olympics.
40:42
Speaker 2: You're pretty outspoken about the right of women to compete
40:45
Speaker 2: and only compete against biological women. Why on earth has
40:50
Speaker 2: the scientific fact that our biology become collateral damage in
40:54
Speaker 2: the so called diversity push.
40:58
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's an attack on Western civilization, and
41:02
Speaker 1: it's an attack on the truth and Enlightenment values.
41:05
Speaker 10: We all know what a man.
41:08
Speaker 1: Is and what a woman is, and essentially, people, in
41:12
Speaker 1: order to climb up the social ladder in order to
41:15
Speaker 1: be acceptable in society, people are telling untruths about biology
41:22
Speaker 1: and that has now had horrific effects in sport.
41:27
Speaker 10: The boxer that.
41:29
Speaker 1: Was knocked out by a man in the boxing ring.
41:33
Speaker 1: Who'd have thought that our modern society would be allowing
41:37
Speaker 1: violence against women by men to be sanctioned in a
41:42
Speaker 1: public space. We have situations in prison where women are
41:46
Speaker 1: being raped by male prisoners who claim that they are women.
41:52
Speaker 1: And this ludicrous situation has been brought about because of
41:56
Speaker 1: an attack on truth, on biology, on the core values
42:02
Speaker 1: that we believe in society. And I do believe you
42:04
Speaker 1: know it's part of an overall effort to delegitimize our
42:09
Speaker 1: very societies and our very civilization, and it's why I
42:13
Speaker 1: believe so passionately we have to fight back against it.
42:16
Speaker 1: And people are also trying to undermine our history. They're
42:19
Speaker 1: trying to undermine they're trying to undermine our belief in
42:22
Speaker 1: our countries and say that somehow countries like Britain, or
42:26
Speaker 1: America or Australia have things to be ashamed of. I
42:29
Speaker 1: think we are fantastic countries and we should be proud
42:32
Speaker 1: of what we achieve. But it's all part of the
42:34
Speaker 1: same agenda to undermine the West.
42:38
Speaker 10: And this is what my.
42:39
Speaker 1: Book Ten Years to Save the West is about, because
42:41
Speaker 1: until Conservatives really start fighting back against this and are
42:46
Speaker 1: prepared to call these things out and take a stand,
42:49
Speaker 1: we are just going to see the left become more
42:51
Speaker 1: and more successful in pursuing this.
42:54
Speaker 10: These absolutely nutty policies. They're nutty.
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Speaker 2: Just we're almost out of time. But I want to
43:01
Speaker 2: ask you, this is only something that another national leader
43:06
Speaker 2: can answer. If you had faced two assassination attempts in
43:11
Speaker 2: as little as two months, as we've seen happen to
43:13
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, how might that have impacted you mentally? How
43:17
Speaker 2: would it have changed the way you campaign? And what
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Speaker 2: do you think it says about politics in the US
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Speaker 2: at a moment.
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Speaker 1: Well, I think it's absolutely appalling. There have clearly been
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Speaker 1: major failings of the Secret Service in protecting Donald Trump,
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Speaker 1: and after the first unsuccessful assassination attempt, surely security had
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Speaker 1: been stepped up, and certainly from President Trump's point of view,
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Speaker 1: more Lago is his home, you know, this is his
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Speaker 1: home territory, and to be threatened there, I think must
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Speaker 1: have a horrible psychological impact because you just think, where on.
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Speaker 10: Earth am I safe?
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Speaker 1: You know, is there a place where I can truly
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Speaker 1: relax and be myself with family and friends without having
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Speaker 1: to worry about this this huge burden. I mean, I
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Speaker 1: think that there have been appalling failings by the American state,
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Speaker 1: and I worry about I worry about politics not being
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Speaker 1: fought in the political arena through debate and through the
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Speaker 1: ballot box, but instead trying to psychologic, psychologically intimidate people,
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Speaker 1: undermine people, and even threatening to kill somebody repeatedly. That
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Speaker 1: is a terrible road for us to go down on
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Speaker 1: something we all need to worry about in a democracy.
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Speaker 2: Not wrong is trust. I know you're on your way
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Speaker 2: out to Australia very soon. We'll catch up in Thank you, Thank.
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Speaker 10: You for your time, look forward to seeing this will
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Speaker 10: be at.
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Speaker 2: The Seapeck com terrifically She's coming a seat Peck October
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Speaker 2: five and at six, which will be broadcast here live
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Speaker 2: on Sky News. All right, after break, a whole lot
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Speaker 2: with my panel up next. All right, let's get straight
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Speaker 2: into things with the my panel, Pauline Hansen's chief of
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Speaker 2: staff James Ashby, and columnists for the UK and Australian
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Speaker 2: Spectator Terry Barnes. Well, let's start. There's a bit of
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Speaker 2: intrigue here. Campaign intrigue. Climbate two hundred is planning to
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Speaker 2: host a US election strategist who worked on the campaigns
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Speaker 2: of Obama, Bernie Sanders, a whole lot of others. An
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Speaker 2: online event featuring Zach Exley, that's his name will take
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Speaker 2: place tonight. It's titled how to Win Lessens from Obama,
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Speaker 2: Bernie and AOC James the left bringing in US style
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Speaker 2: campaigning techniques.
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Speaker 16: It's not good for the right, No, it sure isn't.
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Speaker 16: And it's all about wheping up hysteria. That's what's dangerous
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Speaker 16: about US politics. We're seeing it now. Play out against Trump.
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Speaker 16: And that's precisely what the left do in the US
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Speaker 16: to a point now where some of their strategies will
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Speaker 16: result in threats against members of parliament here and I
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Speaker 16: look to people like poor old Peter Dutton, who already
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Speaker 16: has a team of AFP officers that travel with him
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Speaker 16: permanently and more or less live with him twenty four
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Speaker 16: to seven. That's how bad it is already here in Australia.
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Speaker 16: We don't need it any worse. The other problem with
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Speaker 16: the United States is they've just got these endless budgets
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Speaker 16: to spend on politics. Thankfully here ours haven't reached that level.
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Speaker 16: Last federal election over in the US cost fourteen billion dollars. Now,
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Speaker 16: we don't want to see politics get to that level.
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Speaker 16: I think to reduce the risk of US becoming more
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Speaker 16: like America, we've got to put caps on spending when
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Speaker 16: it comes to federal politics, like we've got in Queensland.
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Speaker 16: We've got caps here of sixty thousand dollars and let's
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Speaker 16: just keep the US politics out of it.
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Speaker 2: Spot On, Hey, that HUMMUS supporting student the Australian National
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Speaker 2: University and AIM is Beatrice Tucker. She said, Hamas deserves
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Speaker 2: our unconditional support. She was expelled, she fought the expulsion,
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Speaker 2: She's now being reinstated, and she is running terry to
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Speaker 2: be the president of a student association. Now. Julie Bishop's
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Speaker 2: a chancellor of the A and US. She used to
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Speaker 2: support Israel, but the organization of the A and U
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Speaker 2: has been pretty silent.
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Speaker 17: Well, Peter, as an A and YOU graduate, I'm absolutely
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Speaker 17: ashamed of this. I'm appalled. I mean, basically put free
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Speaker 17: speech aside. I mean, what she said is what she said. However,
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Speaker 17: she is standing to be president of the A and
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Speaker 17: U Students Association with this unequivocal support PROMACE, which is
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Speaker 17: a proscribed terrorist organization in Australia. And if you support
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Speaker 17: a prescribed to terrorist organization, you are not worthy of
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Speaker 17: standing for anything. And she should be barred from standing at.
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Speaker 2: The A and U. What's going on in Queensland, James,
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Speaker 2: I thought we voted against the Voice, but you're kicking
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Speaker 2: off your truth telling and healing inquiry in Brisbane today.
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Speaker 2: It might have been yesterday.
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Speaker 16: Well, it clearly didn't matter to both sides, Liberal National
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Speaker 16: Party and Labor. We had the referendum last year on
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Speaker 16: the Voice Australia said no, and yet David Chris fully
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Speaker 16: Steph Miles went past treaty. Here in Queensland, they've opened
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Speaker 16: the door to this, and despite their being outcomes in
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Speaker 16: federal courts over issues that have occurred in our past,
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Speaker 16: we are getting reruns of these same stories over the
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Speaker 16: next few years from Indigenous groups worse than reruns of Mash.
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Speaker 16: I'm afraid they have let the genie out of the bottle,
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Speaker 16: both Labor and the Liberal Party here, or in this
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Speaker 16: case the rainbow serpent out of the bottle because there's
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Speaker 16: no going back, and the Liberal Party may turn around
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Speaker 16: now and say, oh, we don't support treaty anymore. Too late,
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Speaker 16: you open the door to this, and that's what we're
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Speaker 16: stuck with. What this is leading to, Peter, is reparations.
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Speaker 16: That is precisely what these groups are looking for, and
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Speaker 16: it's precisely what Labour are setting. Queensland is up massive,
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Speaker 16: big reparation payments and they'll use it through these broken
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Speaker 16: record stories that are being told in Brisbane.
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Speaker 2: And that was the whole point of ULARU statement. From
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Speaker 2: the heart all twenty six pages, all box and dice
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Speaker 2: reparational deals actually in there Terry, You've got a long
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Speaker 2: standing connection to the Libs in Victoria. This week, of course,
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Speaker 2: we've got the more redeeming definition defamation case running on.
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Speaker 2: But this week the Federal Liberals were reported in the
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Speaker 2: media to look like they might pick up four seats
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Speaker 2: in Victoria. Now, how is it that the Dutton Leaves
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Speaker 2: can win seats in Victoria that the state leaves can't.
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Speaker 17: Well, I think we're talking about Peter Dutton and the
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Speaker 17: Federal Liberals. They're actually traveling quite well because they've got
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Speaker 17: cut through messages. They know what they're standing for. They're
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Speaker 17: actually holding the labor government federally to account. But the
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Speaker 17: thing about this feeder is they might look like cotton
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Speaker 17: paper that they're going to win four seat but with
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Speaker 17: the dog's breakfast that is also the Victorian State Liberal Party,
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Speaker 17: they're going to need those people on the ground to
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Speaker 17: actually concentrate and work with them. But they're so distracted,
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Speaker 17: they're so distracted by what's been happening with the Berzuto
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Speaker 17: and versus Deeming stuff that it's preoccupied them for so long.
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Speaker 17: It's factionalized them, it's divided them. It's just hopeless. I
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Speaker 17: despair as a Victorian Liberal.
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Speaker 2: I despair, gotta leave it there, gotta over there, labor light,
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Speaker 2: liberals lose. That's all you need to remember. That's it
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Speaker 2: for me. Have a wonderful weekend. See everybody here Monday
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Speaker 2: at six, here's Andrew